1 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 4 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Elliot Scott and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, 5 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips and Kyle Yeoman's It's a 6 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: June edition of Talking Cowboys here from inside the SWBC 7 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: Mortgage studios at the Star in Frisco. As the off 8 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: season continues to roll on for Dallas Cowboys Tion, we 9 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: chop him without Isaiah here in the same it's not 10 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's so Isaiah's going to be flying in 11 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: here much like we did for those of you loyal 12 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: listeners out there. You'll remember back to the first in 13 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: person episodes that we ever did, Isaiah forgot that we 14 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: were doing him back to back days and he came 15 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: just flying in like ninety five miles per hour down 16 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: highway or what would that be, I thirty five from Willisville. Sure, uh, 17 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: and he came flying into the show. He's gonna do 18 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: something similar to that here over the next couple of minutes. 19 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: And I'm sure he's listening so Isaiah stand back. We'll 20 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: join us shortly. But we do have Rob Phillips Cowboys 21 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: Insider professional football analyst, and we can say that now 22 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 1: even more so for HECKM. Harrison because he has made 23 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: his Dallas Cowboys dot Com debut and it is a 24 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: good read. I read it at least twice this week 25 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: because I read it while I was out of town, 26 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: and then I read it last night to kind of 27 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: get my thoughts right and get the preparation right for 28 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: the show on Dallas Cowboys dot Com last Wednesday. You 29 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: can go find it. I just tweeted the link out 30 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: eight under the Radar standouts from Cowboys ot as. It 31 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: really is a good article, and Rob he did a 32 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: nice job of kind of laying things out. Because OTAs 33 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: are underway, we'll have some more throughout the week to 34 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: talk to you about. But what have we seen so 35 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: far from the Cowboys as they have gotten on the field. 36 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: A lot of work in shorts and helmets, noe pads. 37 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: Yet we'll do that I think in Oxnard, if and 38 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: when that's officially announced. But like Hecma wrote about, and 39 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: go check it out because it's a great piece. There's 40 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: still stuff to see. You can see how guys are 41 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: moving around. You can you can see it where guys 42 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: are lining up, and if you want to draw conclusions 43 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: from that, you can. Now, we're only getting one ota 44 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 1: per week, and this week it's Thursday, so we gotta 45 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: wait till Thursday to see the I know, I know 46 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: they shoveled things around this week, but you know, we watch. 47 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: We watched the offense that was out there. There were 48 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: some guys missing, and we gotta peek at the defense. 49 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: So that was fun to see, you know what I 50 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 1: was trying to do. It's not right through such an 51 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: optimistic lens because you have to understand that it is 52 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: just sotas. They are in just shorts in Jersey. So 53 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: I'm not about to put anyone in the Hall of 54 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: Fame based off of that. But it really was some 55 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: positive signs from a few guys, I mean, defensive line wise, 56 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: And I had a fan pointed out to me that, 57 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: you know, of the eight players, four of them were 58 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: defensive linemen, and it guess there's a lot of my 59 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: attention was on the defensive line. But it was really 60 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: good to see some of the guys that we have 61 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: question marks around actually in action. Seeing these guys you know, 62 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: move basically work on one on one with Quinn, you 63 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: just realize that this defense man there's a new infusion 64 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: of energy with this group that obviously you need to 65 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: have that you can be in a situation where you 66 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: finish as bad as you did last season, but really 67 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: some great signs from some guys that you're looking to 68 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: make key contributions in the fall. Name some of those 69 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: guys that that kind of stuck out to you. I 70 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: know you highlighted like eight separate players in your article, 71 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: but the majority of them being on that defensive line. 72 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: I think that's just a byproduct of one, there being 73 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: so many new faces there and of course drawing your 74 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: attention to that. But two, it's just easier to get 75 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: a read on those types of guys in these sort 76 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: of drills as opposed to maybe a secondary player, which 77 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: is it's much tougher to kind of read right well, 78 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: Brent Urban one is, when you see that group, the 79 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: defensive line group together, Brent Urban is someone that sticks 80 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: out like a sore thumb because of his size. He 81 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: is just a big person. But then just his ability 82 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: to move, you know, you realize that from where we 83 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: were last year with guys like Antoine Woods that was 84 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: smaller in stature guy even Crawford a bigger guy, but 85 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: not as big as Urban and so I just think 86 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: that his presence on that defensive line, You're gonna see 87 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, momentum with this group as 88 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: the preseason going into the regular season, just because of 89 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: his presence. He's a great example of the additions they've 90 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,559 Speaker 1: made on the D line this offseason. They've they've added 91 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: a lot of guys who've played in multiple schemes, who 92 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: can play multiple spots. He's been in a hybrid scheme 93 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: in Baltimore. He's been he can you know, he's an 94 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: end who can kick inside. Carlos Watkins can do that too. 95 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: Terrell Basham can stand up or put his hand in 96 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: the ground. Ocia dicazooa is played everywhere on the D 97 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: line at UCLA. So you kind of get a hint 98 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: based off of the additions they made of what dan 99 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: Quinn wants to do. I mean, we talk about that 100 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: four three cover three scheme and Mike McCarthy said, look, 101 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna change too much of what 102 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: we did on defense last year. That might make fans clinch, right, 103 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: they just need to execute better. I think what they 104 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: felt like was by the end of the season they 105 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: started to get the production they want in some aspects, 106 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: especially taking the ball away. Now come in with Dan 107 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: Quinn and kind of refine those things and bring in 108 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: his own concepts too. But yeah, some of the d 109 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: lineman you know, catch your eye. I was watching the linebackers, 110 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: you know, I just wanted to see where guys were 111 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: lining up, and for what it's worth, Jalen Smith and 112 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: Laton Vanderesh, no surprise, are the two linebackers you know 113 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: with the first team. That's what you want to call it, 114 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: and typically that's not uncommon. Might very well be what 115 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: we see week one, but that's not uncommon for veterans 116 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: to take the rookies spots or whatever with first second 117 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: team in these in these OTA practices. Now, you said 118 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: a couple of things there that I kind of want 119 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: to put a pin in and come back to. I 120 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: wanted to ask another question about Brent Urban. I mean, 121 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: six foot seven, three hundred pounds. He played a lot 122 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: of defensive tackle throughout his career, but everything that I've 123 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: heard is him maybe slipping outside and playing on that edge. 124 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he had an eighty three plus run defense 125 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: grade on PFF last year in one hundred and eighty 126 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: rush defense snaps. So my question is do you think 127 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: he plays inside or do you play he plays the 128 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: majority of his snaps outside, because I think that could 129 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: play a factor into whether or not he will be 130 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: on the fifty three man because they only take five 131 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: of each. It's a good question. I mean, I would 132 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: think with d Laws you're left end, you're probably seeing 133 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: him kick inside at least on first second down and 134 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: then third down or clear passing situations. You've got your 135 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: best four rushers on the field. That's what I would expect. 136 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: And I agree with what you just said, Rob, But 137 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: I think Urban is so multifaceted, and which you talked 138 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: about it his ability to play the one, play, the three, 139 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: play the five when you ask those questions about the 140 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,559 Speaker 1: defense and not completely changing to the four three looks, 141 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: still using some variations of that three four. A guy 142 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: of his size is what is prototypical in a three 143 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,119 Speaker 1: four defense, being able to be a two gap guy 144 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: with size six seven, three hundred pounds and able to 145 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: hold up two guys to allow linebackers to read and react. 146 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: So I think that is what is you know, the 147 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: thing that he has the feather in his cap. Basically, 148 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm just interested to see because I whenever I watched 149 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: him on film, the best tape he had was inside. 150 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: And then the first thing I had heard whenever he 151 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: showed up was, Hey, he's going to kick outside for us? 152 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: And which is fine? You probably both. He probably will. 153 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: Maybe he may be your Tyrone Crawford veteran replacement where 154 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: we have a guy like maybe an Osao Diggi Zooa 155 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: on the inside, yes, who can fill that role as 156 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: a rookie. Now, you also said not changing a whole 157 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: lot from a defensive standpoint, And my question to you is, 158 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: if that is the mindset from Mike McCarthy in this 159 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: entire coaching staff, how is that possible with a new 160 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, a new energy brought in, how do they 161 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: execute that at least have higher execution on a defense 162 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: If they're going to try and run things the same 163 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: way we coaches, not divulging what they're gonna do is 164 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: pretty much right typical of coaches. And so is it 165 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: just a big smokescreen? I assume it would be. Well, 166 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: when you look at the league in general, a lot 167 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: of teams play a variation of all things. You know, 168 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: it's all depending on the amount of receivers, you know, 169 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: to nickel coverages and so forth. So you know, if 170 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: you have to be multifaceted in your defensive approach, no 171 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: one plays just you know, obviously you have your base 172 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: that you you play, and I think their base is 173 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: going to be a four three just all things being considered, 174 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: but they have to be able to play multiple sets 175 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: versus team. So I just I think that whole argument 176 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: versus going to one over another, it's just being overblown 177 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: because when it comes down to camp, you're going to 178 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: see all kinds of looks, you know, right up until 179 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: that first week. Yeah, I just don't think it's this 180 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: rigid they're a pure four three base. Every every defense 181 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: in the league pretty much is now a hybrid where 182 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: you're doing all kinds of things. And actually McCarthy said recently, 183 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: don't get caught up so much in four three three 184 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: fords about the techniques and so you know, you're going 185 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: to see a little bit of everything, just like you 186 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: see from a lot defenses. And when you look at 187 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn's background. He has coached three four schemes. He 188 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: has been in hybrid schemes when he was in Miami 189 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: with Nick Saban, a three four based scheme in New 190 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: York with the Jets, So he doesn't he's he's he's 191 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: been around a lot of different disciplines, so I think 192 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: you're going to see a nice mix of that, And 193 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: really I don't McCarthy was I wouldn't say defiance the 194 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: word last year, but I feel like last year it 195 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: wasn't so much about in his mind, we did this 196 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: big scheme change and it was a failure. It was 197 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: just they didn't execute well enough by until maybe towards 198 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: the end of the season. Now, the run defense was 199 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: a problem, but he didn't feel like there was so 200 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: much on the players in terms of volume. I don't know. 201 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: I think they tried to do too much personally, but 202 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: I think he felt like from an execution standpoint, it 203 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: got better by December, and now you can try to 204 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: build off of that and hopefully have some better communication 205 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: than what you said in the off season. I think 206 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn's a big part of that because because under 207 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: Mike Nolan, it just it wasn't getting done based on 208 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: the off season work they had, and it was virtual 209 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: and it was new, so that's you know, that was 210 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: a challenge and I appreciate all of that, man, but 211 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: the learning curve was not there. Okay, let's just keep 212 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: it real. And you know the way that they looked, 213 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: especially in certain situations. You just go back to the 214 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: Cleveland game. I mean, like, duh, of course they weren't 215 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: getting it. Yeah, teams going for three hundred yards rushing 216 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: against you. And now he're talking about now you're in 217 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: a situation where you are going to go back to 218 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: the same defense as before. And I think the fan 219 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: base is just asking what's going to be the difference 220 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: between last year and this year? Hopefully as personnel, Hopefully 221 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: as personnel, hopefully as simplifying the scheme. Hopefully guys are comfortable, 222 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: and that's why you bring in your guys from Atlanta 223 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: that know your system, no the terminology, and can execute 224 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: and help other guys execute on the fly. I just 225 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: want to kind of clarify this for any of those 226 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: listening that may be asking the same action as I am, 227 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: because I've heard this a couple of times from Mike 228 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: McCarthy and it may just be smoke screens. He needs 229 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: to choose another smoke screen, I think if that's the case, 230 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: But how much impact does he have on this defense? 231 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: How much, say, does Mike McCarthy as the head coach have, 232 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: even though he's an offensive mind and he always has been, 233 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: how much input and impact does he have whenever he 234 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: hops in those rooms as a head coach he makes 235 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: any decision he wants to make sure. But I think 236 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: when you hire a guy with dan Quinn's credentials, I 237 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: think he's gonna have a lot of autonomy. I mean, 238 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: you look at the draft itself, and what they did 239 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: from a personnel standpoint is they found dan Quinn players. 240 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: So I think from that standpoint, I think dan Quinn's 241 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: going to have what he needs to run his scheme. Now, 242 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: is Mike McCarthy going to spend a bunch of time 243 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: in that room. I don't really think so. I think 244 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: probably more. He's more of a walk around coach anyway. 245 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: But if he's going to spend more time somewhere, depending 246 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: on how things go, I would think it'd be in 247 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the room. And generals, generally speaking, 248 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: I believe head coaches coach the coaches, you know, and 249 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: just making sure that things operate at an optimal level. 250 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: You know, obviously, if there's anything a scheme wise in game, 251 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: he may have some tidbits, but you know, I believe 252 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: that he's fully confident in Dan Quinn and his ability 253 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: to direct this defense towards better, you know, better statistical 254 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: numbers than we had last year. Lots of positives coming 255 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: out of OTA's with some of these individuals hanging around. 256 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: What about Dak Prescott? What are we seen from QB 257 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: one as he's back on the field, he is throwing 258 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: We've seen pictures. What were you guys able to see 259 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: as a media whenever you walked into the Ford Center 260 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: and we're able to kind of get your eyes on 261 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: Dak for the first time in a uniform and quite 262 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: some time. I did the blitz for Sunday Night on Friday, 263 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: and what I said was, if you were under a 264 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 1: rock for six months, okay, just see somebody's under a rock. 265 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: They didn't see anything about the Cowboys last year. You're 266 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: good for you lucky, I know, and you come out 267 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: where do I find a rock? You come out of 268 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: that rock and you think the Cowboys might have won 269 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. They didn't, unfortunately, and you saw Dak 270 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 1: Prescott practice in that red jersey and you said, wow, 271 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: he looks like Dak Prescott. I don't. I don't think 272 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: you would have known that he had the injury he had. 273 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: Now again, it's helmets and shorts. He's not getting any 274 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: sort of sort of pass rush against him. They're keeping 275 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: him out of that, which is really smart, by the way, 276 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: because you got young players, especially on the defensive line, 277 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: learning the pace of practice. You don't want anybody rolling 278 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: up on that one hundred and sixty million dollars ankle, 279 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: but from from a pocket presence, rolling out, making throws 280 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: on the run, handoffs, everything. He just he looks confident 281 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: on that ankle. Heck. Now, I gotta ask you, Rob, 282 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: how do you like as far as your your worries 283 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: about Dak, knowing the kind of player that he is, 284 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: what are some of your concerns coming into this season, 285 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: just knowing of that horrific injury that he had. What 286 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: do you what are you concerned? If I had a 287 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: concern right now, I think it would just be the 288 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: timing for him, because he's been October since he was 289 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: really on the field practicing timing with his receivers and 290 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: then but I think by training camp he's gonna get 291 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: that sorted out. Now. People made not made a big deal, 292 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: but there were some plays he missed. There was an interception, 293 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: there was a pass broken up. He takes chances in 294 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: these practices. He always before the injury, he wants to 295 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: kind of test. He even said it afterwards, like I 296 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: want I want my receivers to know I'm gonna look 297 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: for him, I'm gonna try to fit in a spot. 298 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't read into that, but I do think 299 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: there's probably a bit of Russ there. And he talked 300 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: about a psychological element there in terms of trusting his ankle. 301 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: And again, I think by week one he says he's 302 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: probably out of that already by now, but I think 303 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: by week one there should be, you know, no second 304 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: thoughts about you know, the health of his ankle and 305 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: doing anything he needs to do on it. I love 306 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: when we got an opportunity to listen to the conference 307 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: call with Delta, Scholtz and Dalton Shows talking about the 308 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: velocity of his ball and nothing changed from that aspect, 309 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: And you know, it's I think it's the muscle memory 310 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: of it for him as a quarterback that I think 311 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: it makes it really easy going into his sixth season 312 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: knowing what it is to prepare and be an NFL quarterback. 313 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: I like everyone else, the obvious thing would be what 314 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: happens once he gets pressure? Is he going to be 315 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: apprehensive about leaving the pocket? Is it going to be 316 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: on his mind? And right now, the way that he's 317 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: practicing in shorts, it doesn't look like there's any residual 318 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: effect there. Mentally, My thing for Dak is taking the 319 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: next step. You know, the pressure is going to be 320 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: on him because of the contract, and people are going 321 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: to be Every throw is going to be under the microscope. 322 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: If you want to get into the realm of the Roethlisburgers, 323 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: the Rogers, the Wilson's, the Mahomes, the elite group, the 324 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: elite group, be more cerebral in your approach, meaning you know, 325 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: if calling audibles, when you catch a defensive coordinator in 326 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: the wrong coverage you see them trying to do the package, 327 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: is harrying up to the line of scrimmage and snapping 328 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: the ball, those little nuanced things of football. I think 329 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: those are the things that he has to improve upon 330 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: so that he can be elevated to that next level 331 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks go for Sorry, I just to piggyback on that. 332 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: I think by the time Romo got to like year 333 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, when they got to the divisional round, that 334 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: does catch year, he had completely gained the perfect understanding 335 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: of his offense. He was like he was like a 336 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: pilot that had every He knew everything there, what he'd seen, 337 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: every coverage, and he was perfectly in control of that scheme. 338 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: And I think for Dak it's just a matter of 339 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: continuing to be in that scheme, and I think having 340 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore and having that carryover will help him there. 341 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: But that's a shame about Romo's career is that once 342 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: he got to that point twenty fifteen, then the collarbone 343 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: injuries and then it was over. You know, there is 344 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: a little something that does worry me about that, just 345 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: because there was so much uncertainty around his contract situation 346 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: and because of the injury, that could have been his 347 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: time to you know, hit the playbooks and really kind 348 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: of get to that point of understanding, and he may 349 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: have done that. We'll see that pretty early on in 350 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: the season if we can kind of see a scout 351 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: difference of the kind of sill excuse me approach that 352 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: you were talking about a moment ago. I think that's 353 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: something that would stick out pretty early on Week one, 354 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: two or three. Is there any worry about longevity though, 355 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: with the ankle, with the physicality of this game in 356 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: the longer season, because turning right back around, he's going 357 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: to face hits. At some point he will be hit. 358 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: Is there a chance that not maybe not Week five 359 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: or six, but later in the season you start kind 360 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: of worrying about that ankle and whether or not it 361 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: is ready to take a staunch hit like he did 362 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: of course last last year. Well, I think in this 363 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: league you're always one hitaway. It's one hitaway. I mean, 364 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: Dak looked indestructible through how seasons, you know, and it 365 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: just it was a freak play other than maybe taking 366 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: a couple of shots to the helmet and you've got 367 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: to get a check for concussions, like he hadn't had anything, 368 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: and he's still that guy. The ankle strong. Everything you hear, 369 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: the ankle is strong. And I think one thing that 370 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: would make Cowboys fans hopefully feel better about it is 371 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: just think about Alan hearns okay. Alan Hearns had basically 372 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: the same injury January of twenty nineteen. By OTAs of 373 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: that year, he was on the field doing everything everything 374 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: at the receiver position where you really got to rely 375 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: on your legs and your speed. That's not Dak's game, 376 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: or it doesn't have to be, and he doesn't have 377 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: to be a guy that scrambles as much as he 378 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: does in the future. He's talked about that. I don't 379 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: really have a lot of concern about that. I think 380 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: the ankle is strong and he's gonna be okay. Hopefully 381 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: the offensive line stays healthy because they've had their injury concerns. 382 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: Maybe if that's a concern I have, it's like they've 383 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: got great lineman, can they stay healthy too. Did we 384 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: hear any or see anything off of ly O'Collins Tyrant 385 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: Smith health wise this week or was there really relatively 386 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: no impact from what they did in OTAs They were 387 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: there a little bit, right, Yeah, they were a little bit. Yeah, 388 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: Britt Brown and bands baby side. That's fun than practice itself. Yeah, 389 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: I've heard. Yeah, he does a great job. 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That's what I was going to say. 436 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: From inside the SWBC Mortgage studios. We do have Isaiah 437 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: stand Bank joining us. Oh yeah, there's a nice smile 438 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: for the camera. Did you just want a four day weekend? 439 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: What was going on here? Sorr? Nah? See, what had 440 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 1: happened was what had happened was well we were commune 441 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: from the last show to now I was coming back 442 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: from Man, stop it so happened? Stop it? You know 443 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: that kids business. There's been a lot going on. Man, Wow, 444 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: you hear this? So we're not a priority. No, it's 445 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: not at all. But I mean I thought I didn't 446 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: thought he was the start and we wasn't that what 447 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: the gladdest night with other pips'. But then you reversed it. 448 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: You just reversed it. Right now. All you needed was 449 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: a cape and some smoke. The way you just came 450 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: right now kind of wanted to just basking it for 451 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: a second. Don't try to divert this on Kyle. That's you. No, 452 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: no miscommunication on that one. That's on me. I want 453 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: your car. I just I want the car you drive 454 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: because this happened when the the what was it outside 455 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: the side the Tostito show that you get outside? Yeah, 456 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: and you just made it smooth. I mean it was like, 457 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you spent it over here, was't gonna 458 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: see anything. But there's a underground tunnel. Okay. I was 459 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: gonna tell you underground tunnel about that exclusive line has 460 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: been working. But I was, man, I see you're talking 461 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: about it, talking about Dak and shopping and talking about 462 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: you know that the bands Brown with the bands and 463 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: those are fun, right, Yeah, I spent too much time 464 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: on those. Yeah, I know about him. You know too 465 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: much about him. You know what else you know about 466 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: was that whether you're watching from home or cheering in 467 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: the stands, with lenses, you can see every exciting play book, 468 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: an appointment with your local or experts and find the 469 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: perfect as Laura lens for you see more two more 470 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: on talking cowboys. Had to have you for that. Yeah, 471 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: that's really what I was coming in for m oh 472 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: for sure. Now you can leave, you're out here, Thanks man. 473 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: I hope everybody had a great Memorial Day weekend. Of course, 474 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: we would be remiss if we did not salute all 475 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: the men and women of our armed forces around the 476 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: country who have given the ultimate sacrifice and those of 477 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: you who have just served so that weak we kid 478 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: do things like this and talk freely and speak freely 479 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: and of course enjoy the great game of football. So 480 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: we salute you all those servicemen and women out there 481 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: on this Memorial Day talking about of course OTA's and 482 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: running down what OTA's had in store this last week. 483 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: We will see more this week from Inside the Star. 484 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: But got a question on Twitter, and this is what 485 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: we're going to take as our mail bag Monday segment. 486 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: V Amir on Twitter, who does great work and has 487 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: always sent us fantastic questions. He said, which former Falcons 488 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: free agent will make the most impact for the Dallas 489 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: Cowboys in year one? And We're gonna throw Dan Quinn 490 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: out on this question because I would still kind of 491 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: consider him in that group of former head coach of 492 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons who is now the defensive coordinator. But 493 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: Kean O'Neil and demonte Kazie, of course, both in the secondary, 494 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: at least while they were in Atlanta, But we might 495 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: see a couple changes there. Who makes the biggest impact, 496 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: Rob And we'll start with you, because you had a 497 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: great piece on Kean O'Neil and his switch to linebacker. 498 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. I'll go with him. I'll go 499 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: with him because I think we've talked about identity for 500 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: this defense and what this defense need. They need an edge, 501 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: they need a physicality, and you watch tape of him 502 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. That's what he brought. Man. He brought the wood, 503 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: he brought some big hits. He brought another run defense stopper, 504 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: a guy that played safety but was in the box 505 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: a lot. And he's gonna beat down more just like 506 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: he you know, in terms of this new linebacker role 507 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: or this hybrid role, whatever he is. I think he's 508 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: gonna bring more of what they need in terms of 509 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: attitude and try and develop a personality. But I think 510 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: both of them very well could be essentially weak one starters. 511 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: So it's a good question. I mean, Casey probably, I 512 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: mean on paper starting free safety, is that fair? Yeah? No, 513 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: that's that's very fair. Yeah, but well you talk about Neil. 514 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: One of the things that you just points out that 515 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: on the roster has him at two fifteen to thirteen. 516 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: He's a lot bigger than that. You could tell that 517 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: he's put it. He's packed on some weight, but very mobile. 518 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: Had had an achilles as well, but you don't see 519 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: any residual X from that. He talked about his role 520 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: on this defense and where he's gonna be and knowing 521 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: that there's a simplified approach to dan Quinn's defense and 522 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: what's going to be demanded of him, and I think 523 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: that's what handles all of the pressure footing these guys. 524 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: You have a clearly defined role within this defense, and 525 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: he knows as the rover, as the nickel linebacker, hooks, curls, 526 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: flat areas where he needs to be. And so the 527 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: tight ends in the NFL right now just way too good. 528 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: You know. You we go back always to the Levonte 529 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: David because they won the Super Bowl. But what Levonte 530 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 1: David did against Kelsey was phenomenal and probably couldn't have 531 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: been done if the Chiefs are clicking on all cylinders 532 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. So look, just knowing that he 533 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: has a grasp of his defense I think gets him 534 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: a leg up against everyone else. Yeah, I think so. 535 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: I think the fact that we're talking about the front 536 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: seven so much this offseason, I think he's gonna have 537 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: the greatest impact, you know with that right um, I 538 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: think they're I think team's inability to really drop back. 539 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: What we're hoping that their inability is to be able 540 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: to drop back throw the ball is going to lead 541 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: to the impact that Neil's gonna have. Being able to 542 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: be in that box. And everybody's talking about this size. 543 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: You don't have to be big. I don't know why 544 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 1: this keeps coming up. If you're in the box, guy, 545 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: you need to be big. But if you're you're outside 546 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: the boxer kind of on the edge, you don't have 547 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: to be big. You just have to be explosive. And 548 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: the thing that dan Quinn's gonna ask you to do 549 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: is play hard and play fast. And you just talked 550 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: about his responsibilities. He has a very very you know, 551 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: very detailed responsibility in this In his defense, he's asked 552 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: to do those two things, and I think that's gonna 553 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: be the expectation that I think he'll be able to 554 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: deliver on those things. And I'm sorry, no people talk, 555 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,239 Speaker 1: you know, ask the question to him about coming from 556 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: safety to linebacker and if there was going to be 557 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: any problems with doing that, and he pointed out, as 558 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: I've been a linebacker my whole career. I've been I 559 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: was a linebacker in high school, as a linebacker in college, 560 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: and so you know, making that move, I think, you 561 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: know it's not enough. I guess people are making too 562 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: much of it. Yeah, very much. So, I mean, when 563 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: when you think about the safety position, I don't know 564 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: how much people really understand when you're when you're playing safety, 565 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: you got when by the time guys get you there 566 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: at speed, all right, So by the time guys gets 567 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: either at full speed, whether that's a running back you know, 568 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: getting through the first two layers, or whether that as 569 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: a receiver running their routes on air, pretty much you know, 570 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: you have to deal with the best of what that 571 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: person has to provide. Now you roll it down into 572 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: the box and all of a sudden, I'm putting I'm 573 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: putting more guys in less space, right, and these guys 574 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: that don't have the ability to get up and use 575 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: their athleticism to the highest power. So I think it 576 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: puts him in a better position than he has been 577 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: in the past. He did say he's gonna put on 578 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of weight, like five pounds, Yeah, something 579 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, but which you're losing camp probably that'll 580 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: be camp Wait shedded. Now does it worry you at all? 581 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: His injury history ACL tear in twenty eighteen, town Achilles 582 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. I know there's not a ton of 583 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: pressure on him to come in and be a game changer. 584 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: He could be. He was a former first round pick. 585 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: He's somebody that, at least in Atlanta was expected to 586 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: be a game changer. Those expectations aren't the same here. 587 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: But now with the switch to linebacker, a position that 588 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: has been very well known around this organization, speci typically 589 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: for how fragile they can be, does his injury history 590 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: throw up a red flag and is switched to that spot? Nah? 591 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: Not for me. I mean take it from somebody who's 592 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: had a ton of injuries. I mean, each injury is 593 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: his own deal, right, it's his own isolated an incident. 594 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: You know, you know, you said it a little while ago. 595 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: You know, everybody's one play away from being hurt and 596 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: being injured. I should say, but you know, in regards 597 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: to him and his achilles, I mean I've had the achilles, right, 598 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: I came back bigger, faster, stronger. So I mean that 599 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: mean that's the technology, science, all the stuff medicine has 600 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: come so far. These guys and the type of player 601 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,239 Speaker 1: he is. He plays with his hair on fire, right, 602 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,959 Speaker 1: so you put him in that box and say, hey, 603 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: go go, he's gonna do that. So I don't think 604 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: that the injuries. You know, whether it's Dak or whether 605 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: it's Collins or whether it's Smith, it doesn't matter. Everybody 606 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: has a chance to get and to get injured. You 607 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: just pray and ask you know that it doesn't happen. Well, 608 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to definitely just rethink achilles injuries altogether. 609 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: Because demonte Kikes I had to stop and I had 610 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: asked myself, like, did wait a minute, didn't he have 611 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: AI He's a guy that you think is going to 612 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: be on the sideline with Brett Brown working on bands, 613 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: getting himself ready for camp, and he's out there flying 614 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: around and so you know, maybe, like I said, modern 615 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: medicine man is phenomenal in guy's ability to not be 616 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: have an injury like this be so not a death sentence, 617 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: but something that holds your career back for years before 618 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: you can get back on the ground again. Barry Church 619 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: came back better player after after his injury. Neil, I 620 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: think he played fifteen games for Atlanta last year, so 621 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: I think those injuries are behind him. He did have 622 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: an ACL I think the year before that to me, 623 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: you're looking at Kaze coming off the year before. But 624 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: he looked good. To Hex's point, he looked good in 625 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: this workout, A little bit of a surprise that he 626 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: was doing as much as he was. So no, I 627 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: don't don't. I don't think there should be any real 628 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: concerns about especially Neil's injury. Well, he's shocked specifically talking 629 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: about because he nine snaps short of a thousand and 630 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. I mean, he was a heavy usage in 631 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: that Atlanta second area and it was his best year 632 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: by far. Had an eighty straight up PF grade in 633 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, allowed ten receptions on nineteen targets, which is 634 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: just over fifty percent. Of course, for those of you 635 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: math nuts out there listening, eight hundred and eighty of 636 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: his snaps came at free safety. So you mentioned in 637 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: the in the beginning of the segment. Is he your 638 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: free safety right now? Is because I keep seeing on 639 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: Twitter and a lot of people are saying that there's 640 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: not a free shafety on this roster. I disagree. I 641 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: think Demante Casi is your free safety right now, alongside 642 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson, who could also play a little bit of 643 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: the free means the strong, but he could play some 644 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: free as well. How flexible is that position right now 645 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: as we look at it today, I think they've got 646 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: some guys they feel I think they feel better about 647 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: that position personnel wise than they did last year. Now 648 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see. I mean we got we got 649 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: to camp last year. Feel pretty good about haw Hawk 650 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: Clinton Dix exactly why exactly they did exactly finger he 651 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: just throws it right in there. Weekend to camp, he 652 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: was on the sideline and then he was cut by 653 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: mid Seaton. Did he make it out of training No? No, yeah, 654 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: I'm forgetting. Yeah. There were a couple other guys that 655 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: made it out of training camp but didn't make it 656 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: through the season. Exactly. So Daryl Worley, Everson Griffin traded, 657 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, not the best free class didn't work out, 658 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: But look, dan Quinn, guys, I think having an understanding 659 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,959 Speaker 1: of his schemes important. Geron Curse is somebody that they 660 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: think you talked about ability to cover tight ends from 661 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: that safety position. They think he can do that. He 662 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: was actually running with the ones last week. Donovan Wilson. 663 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: They're mixing and matching at this point. I wouldn't read 664 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: anything into that, but yeah, I think they feel a 665 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: bit better about the personnel that they they've got compared 666 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: to last year. We'll see what happens. It's very very early, 667 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: So Isaiah, what are realistic expectations? Because the last thing 668 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: we want to do is a show is get ahead 669 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: of ourselves, kind of like we did last year where 670 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: we were riding up a Defensive Player of the Year 671 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: trophy for Everson Griffin. Everything but the inscription was already 672 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: done on that thing by the time he got signed. 673 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: So we are already hats and we were we were partying. Uh, 674 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: where where do the expectations live for both of these guys? 675 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: Because he and Neil we've talked about them and where 676 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: they fit into the scheme. Of course they've got a 677 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: head start there. Should we expect them to be starter caliber? 678 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: I think you can expecting to be starter caliber just 679 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: from the standpoint of the leadership right where they're coming from. 680 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: They understand the concept, they understand exactly what you know, 681 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: Coach Quinn's putting down. You know so, But in terms 682 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 1: of being just your longevity guy who just plays, you know, 683 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 1: all all seventy snaps, I don't see that. I don't 684 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: see that whatsoever. I think at the second level we're 685 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: going to be seeing, you know, a whole bunch of 686 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: guys coming in. I think in the secondary we're gonna 687 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: be seeing a little rotation as well. You know, we 688 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: got that. We got six four Israel sitting back there. 689 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: You know that, we can't forget about that. Dude's a beast. 690 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: I cannot wait to see him with pads on. So 691 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: I think if you have the resurgence of some of 692 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: these young guys that are coming in here, that are 693 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: going to be fighting um to and being competitive, you know, 694 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: this environment is going to change. The environment is going 695 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: to become a lot more competitive. So I think you'll 696 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: seee the leadership being asked of those older gentlemen and 697 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: then these young guys coming in and challenging them. And 698 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: I really believe that the strength of this defense may 699 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 1: be in some of their sub packages and bringing in 700 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: you know, fresh guys and Israel the rookie going in 701 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: and free safety and just mixing it up with the 702 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: different looks, you know, but having guys like Kazie and 703 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: Neil on your team to be able to let the 704 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: learning curve be a lot less for your younger guys. 705 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: That's where I think that the divide is made up. 706 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: You know, it's just being able to get these guys 707 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: coached up on the field and answer some of these 708 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: questions in real time that obviously you'll get in the 709 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: classroom as well. But just realizing where we are as 710 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: far as how athletic the linebacker room is now, how athletic, 711 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: how much more athletic, or how much more confidence you 712 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: have in the safety positions, All of those things I 713 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: think are relative. But again, let's slow down, gym shoes. 714 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: Let's not do it again. Let's not done again, because 715 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: we know that during camp a lot of this in 716 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: live action. Right now, it's all friendly fire, but when 717 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 1: it goes comes down to live action, that's where we're 718 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: going to see some of these guys, you know, make 719 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: separation Okay, get the pads on. Oh yeah, that's gonna 720 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: be a big key to whoever has some success whenever 721 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: training camp does come around. So we only have a 722 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: couple more shows prior to our little break that we 723 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: normally take in the middle of the summer, So we're 724 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: gonna already start kind of looking ahead a little bit 725 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: to training camp and maybe some crowded rooms that are 726 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: going to have to be addressed with questions quite like 727 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: the ones we just talked about. Who are those crowded rooms? 728 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: What are those crowded rooms? And who was going to 729 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: make it out of that? 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How about this? 775 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: We had a jersey number switch. I don't know. I 776 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,479 Speaker 1: don't think it's a big deal on my side because 777 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,399 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's gonna happen regardless, and there's 778 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: nothing you can do about it. However, it's a big 779 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: deal to a lot of people because there's one certain 780 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith who has now combined his five and his 781 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: four to make a nine on his jersey, one of 782 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: the few jersey changes we did see throughout the Dallas 783 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: Cowboys whenever OTA's opened up. Mister Isaiah Stanback, you were 784 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 1: one that had actually donned a jersey in the fel 785 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 1: How important is that number change? And what do you 786 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: think about the one with Jalen smn You're asking the 787 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: wrong person because I never cared about numbers. See I 788 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: don't either, really, I don't care about numbers. I hope 789 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 1: that it's financially beneficial to him, because I have my 790 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: understanding is that he had to he had to cut 791 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: a nice little check to get that, and I guess 792 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 1: my understanding is that you have to pay out the 793 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 1: remaining inventory um for those jerseys. I'm not half a 794 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: million dollars. Half a million dollars he paid out. It 795 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: means a lot to him that yeah, half a million wow, 796 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:36,240 Speaker 1: But no, no, no, would you do that? But because 797 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 1: now you're a business owner, you're a family man. All 798 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: of those things makes like when you think half a 799 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 1: million dollars, you think you know milk, right brand, it's 800 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 1: a life, I mean, I mean, if it's that important 801 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: to him, then it's that important to him. I mean, 802 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 1: but personally, I've never cared that much about numbers. I 803 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: understand why people are probably up in arms because, especially 804 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: here at Cowboys Nation, means something. The nine means something 805 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: to people, and then so do a bunch of other numbers, 806 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: right there's I mean, shoot, half the dog on numbers 807 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 1: are probably gone here within the Cowboys because of the 808 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: amount of great players that have come through here. But 809 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: in terms of Jayleen, hey do what you do, man, 810 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: You got the bread to do it by buy your 811 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: jersey number back. I mean, you were nine, you know, 812 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 1: you went to fifty four, you made another nine version 813 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: and none of you coming back. So guys are some 814 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 1: guys are attached to their numbers. Some guys are really attached. 815 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't have anything to do with how they play 816 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 1: on the field though, absolutely nothing. No look good, play 817 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: good something it has to be yeah, I mean for Jayleen, 818 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: I have over the last couple of weeks, especially when 819 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: he announced that Jersey change the venom from fan base 820 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 1: from the fan base and people just saying, you know, 821 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 1: what differences to make? How dare you do this? And 822 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 1: just wearing fifty four and what fifty four means to 823 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: the franchise. I think it's really interesting a guy like 824 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith that when you look at what he's done 825 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 1: on the field, and I know this is in popular 826 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: opinion right now, but eighty solo tackles averaging for the 827 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: last three years, one hundred and fifty four tackles last year. 828 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: If you're looking around the league and you're comparing these numbers, 829 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: are you giving the same criticism to other linebackers. Let's 830 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 1: just say Layden Vanderesh had one hundred and fifty four 831 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 1: tackles last year. Are you criticizing Laden Vanders the same 832 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: way that you're put in the criticism on Jaylen Smith? 833 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: Is it doesn't bother you that much that he's a 834 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: businessman that he swipes. I mean, Layten Vanderess has a 835 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,320 Speaker 1: whole wolf call if he just lands around the pile. 836 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 1: What I'm just trying to understand where the vendom comes from. 837 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: Guys coming from this direction, what do you do you 838 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: care about the number of jo I don't care. Do 839 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: you care about the numbers? I do not? How about yeah? 840 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: So we the people? Yeah, no, people care. People people 841 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: do here. I mean, but I can't speak on that. 842 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,320 Speaker 1: I think it comes down. Look, he put a post 843 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: on Twitter showed pictures of him growing up wearing it. 844 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: If it like you said, if it means that most 845 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: of him and the Jones will say yeah, where it, 846 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 1: it's fine, then fine. I mean, there are no retired 847 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: numbers in this franchise. There are numbers that are kind 848 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: of unofficially untouchable. There hasn't been a twenty two. There 849 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 1: hasn't been a twelve, there hasn't been I mean, there's 850 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: been eighty eights, but there hasn't been certain numbers eight. 851 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,240 Speaker 1: I think fans wanted nine to be in that category. Okay, 852 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 1: if you feel that way because you've always loved Tony Romo, fine, 853 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: If you don't care like we do, fine, I don't 854 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: think it really matters. That's kind of what I said. 855 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 1: Lead again, It's like, I think it's a moot point 856 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: because you can't change anything about it. It's not going 857 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: to change, he wanted, he went and got the one 858 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: problem is with Romo fans to say, how dare you 859 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 1: I want I want receipts if you're a Romo fan 860 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 1: and say you are I want receipts because there are 861 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 1: so many fans that thought Romo was just awful and 862 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: sucked and get him out of here and he's overrated 863 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 1: and he's not a lead and all this stuff, and 864 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: then time passes and it's like, oh man, he's the 865 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: greatest ever. God we didn't give him enough open It's like, 866 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: I just think it's it's revisionist history with Tony Romo 867 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: and one day because when you're in that chair, you're 868 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 1: playing that position, you're compared to Aikman and Roger and 869 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: Dak's getting some of that now and it's not fair. 870 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: So for fans that are open arms, how do you 871 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,359 Speaker 1: feel about Tony back there? That is all I want 872 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: to know. I love what Rob just said. I don't 873 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,720 Speaker 1: know whoever puts together the little cow bites and whatever 874 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,879 Speaker 1: that are on like our website that needs the best 875 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 1: of one. That was that's really good, really well said, 876 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,399 Speaker 1: because you can't wish wash your way around the same 877 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: thing with Jalen Smith. I mean, if you're not not 878 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 1: for him, stay not for him, because if he comes 879 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: around and has a really good year, we're gonna see 880 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 1: the receipts as well, and we're gonna we're gonna want 881 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: those two. So I mean, I am at just as 882 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: much of a skeptic around his game as anybody. Well, 883 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm the same thing with Layton Vanderesh. I've not sold 884 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 1: on either one of those guys, but we're we're gonna 885 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,840 Speaker 1: see how that works out with the nine in the 886 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: linebacking corps here coming up this year. So final couple 887 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,760 Speaker 1: minutes here, we do have a lot of crowded rooms 888 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 1: whenever it comes to the Cowboys and their roster heading 889 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 1: into training camp here in a couple of months or 890 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: I guess what would that be a month and a 891 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,359 Speaker 1: half now, six weeks latest July, about six weeks from 892 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: now training caps Oh my lord, ye, So yeah, running 893 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: out of time in terms of picking out who could 894 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: be the odd man out in some certain scenarios. Corner 895 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 1: wide receiver, edge rusher, linebacker. Lots of bodies put into 896 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: those four positions. Is there one that sticks out to 897 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 1: you guys, at least watching from OTAs that is quite 898 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,439 Speaker 1: crowded right now and is going to have to see 899 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,399 Speaker 1: some trim whenever we get closer into the summer. Well, 900 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 1: right now, the cornerback position is going to be that's 901 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: the one to watch. There's eleven guys at corner on 902 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,879 Speaker 1: the roster right now. Yeah, County Reggie Robinson, Yes, sir, 903 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: and Reggie and hey, we saw a spark playing corner 904 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: corner and he looked good on the ball and he 905 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: looked good yea. You know, so you might have been 906 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 1: playing safety on Wednesday, but on whatever day we were 907 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, but when you when you look at 908 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: guys like you know, Anthony Brown, Jordan Lewis, um Digs. 909 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 1: Obviously he didn't have much to worry about. But still 910 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 1: that first group, you could tell from those veteran guys 911 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: that they recognize that they're on the hot seat. I 912 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 1: mean they're practicing it like they are on the hot set. Yeah, 913 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 1: you know, and so I mean it obviously has to 914 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 1: be there, you guy Naean, right, he did for hey, hey, Nashan, 915 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,879 Speaker 1: you know, made another player on the ball. And there's 916 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: just little things that you're starting to see. Kelvin Joseph 917 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,319 Speaker 1: again Footworth wise. I mean, these young guys are going 918 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: to and you want to see them put the pads 919 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 1: on and see what they do in live action. But 920 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, there, this is a really good group, 921 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:05,280 Speaker 1: and it's the position battles. It might be epic. I agree. 922 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: I'm that room is stacked right now. And I mean 923 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,320 Speaker 1: what we talked about, you know, after the hiring of 924 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 1: Dan Queen, it was about competition and how important that 925 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 1: is to him and his culture. And we're seeing it, 926 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 1: We're seeing it, We're seeing it show up and I 927 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: think you're going to continue to see that all the 928 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 1: way through training camp. And guess what, Competition has never 929 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 1: made a team worse, No, never, never, now never. Last 930 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: year after training camp, the Cowboys took five guys at cornerback, 931 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs, Anthony Brown, Jordan Lewis, which I think this 932 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 1: year you could say those are the three locks out 933 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,320 Speaker 1: of the cornerback group. Then after that it was Cheeto 934 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,800 Speaker 1: and Daryl Worley after that, so that those were the 935 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 1: five last year. So you put those three guys, speaking 936 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:50,359 Speaker 1: of Brown, Lewis, Diggs, in this group, what is there 937 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 1: two more spots left and there's Reggie Robinson, Joseph two 938 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 1: draft picks are making this team Nayshan Wright. Yeah, he's 939 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 1: on the there's already three guys right there, right, Jordan 940 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 1: Lewis is interesting because, huh three guys? You mean you 941 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: factor in Israel throw him in a secondary too. Is 942 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 1: he gonna be considered a safety? That probably in the 943 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 1: safety I mean, but but and he goes into that 944 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 1: same pdbs. Yeah, right, there were ten last year. There's 945 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 1: only so many dbs that you're taken. I think, you know, 946 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 1: dan Quinn will probably have He's they're gonna play it, 947 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 1: figure it out. They got two more roster spots though, right, 948 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 1: we still have fifty five now or we still it's 949 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: fifty five on game day. You can't have to the 950 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: squad elevations. Yeah, So, I mean it's gonna be tight. 951 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 1: It's gonna be real tight. It's real tight at corner. 952 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I Kelvin Joseph may not be a walking starter, 953 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 1: but he's gonna play. Oh he'll he'll make the roster. 954 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,359 Speaker 1: He's gonna play. So there's four spots. We're talking about 955 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 1: one spot here, and it's gonna be decided between a 956 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: third round pick this year and a fourth round pick 957 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: last year. I just think Nashawn Right is gonna make 958 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 1: this team. I just don't think they drafted him not 959 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 1: to develop him and you know, work with him. Even 960 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:55,800 Speaker 1: if he's not gonna play year one, he's gonna be 961 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 1: on special teams. I'd be surprised if he didn't make 962 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: this team. I'm with you on Anthony Brown. He's a 963 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 1: veteran guy. Dig's obviously a starter. Jordan Lewis is interesting 964 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 1: because he's played different spots. I mean, he's been in 965 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: the box, he's been safety, something like could they move 966 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 1: him around maybe and maybe that'll give you some flex 967 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,359 Speaker 1: at the corner position. Um, but yeah, it's it's gonna 968 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 1: be interesting. I think they're probably gonna take six this year, right, 969 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 1: there's a chance they take six corners, and then one 970 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 1: of those is maybe like a dB corner hybrid type 971 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 1: thing like safety corner goes back and forth, Like you said, 972 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 1: maybe with a Jordan Lewis or maybe a guy like 973 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 1: Reggie Robinson, who is now, of course, spent a year 974 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,720 Speaker 1: in both categories. What about wide receiver on the offensive 975 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,399 Speaker 1: side of the ball. We've talked a little bit about 976 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 1: that spot previously, but can any of these guys, at 977 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 1: least based off of what you've seen so far challenge 978 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 1: the likes of maybe as Cedric Wilson or Noah Browning. 979 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 1: Isaiah's just shaking his head. Yeah, I'm waiting on the 980 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 1: wide receiver. You know, it's not great radio. I don't 981 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 1: want to I don't want to say too much before 982 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,879 Speaker 1: training camp. Based upon what I've seen. I don't see 983 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 1: anybody challenging their spots currently. We'll see once training camp 984 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 1: shows up, We'll see once. Once once Pittsburgh, you know, 985 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 1: steps on the field, we'll see what guys bring to 986 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: the table. Because special teams are gonna be a big 987 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,359 Speaker 1: part of that as well, and that's really what you're 988 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 1: gonna see their impact in those areas as well as 989 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 1: playing this receiver. I think Cedric Wilson would have had 990 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,319 Speaker 1: a huge training I mean, he did have a huge 991 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 1: training camp, but I think it would have had a 992 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 1: huge preseason last year if it would have had the chance. 993 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:25,759 Speaker 1: You know, I always hear you talk about the learning 994 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 1: curve for wide receivers coming into the league and what 995 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,840 Speaker 1: it was like for you being in the group, So 996 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,319 Speaker 1: I can just only imagine what it's like for guys 997 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,319 Speaker 1: like send me for Hokol and some of these undrafted 998 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 1: kids guys, and you know, look, they're trying to find 999 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: a spot amongst a bonafide superstar group. And so then 1000 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,200 Speaker 1: you have guys behind them that have pretty much solidified themselves. 1001 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 1: I think Noah Brown, if we're just gonna point out anyone, 1002 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,399 Speaker 1: he may be the one spot that may be up 1003 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,840 Speaker 1: for the taking. If someone can can you know, you know, 1004 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 1: unseen him. So it's gonna take a lot. It's gonna 1005 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 1: take a lot simply because of his understanding of the 1006 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 1: offense and because of his contributions on special teams. That's 1007 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,760 Speaker 1: the kicker. That's the one. Because the special teams coordinator 1008 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 1: has some sway in the room. I mean, he's got 1009 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 1: the last call. He absolutely I mean for those I'm 1010 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 1: sorry for those that don't know that, the special teams 1011 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,479 Speaker 1: coordinator when they all sit at the table and say, okay, 1012 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 1: well we got we got these two guys, and they're 1013 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 1: gonna say, ruh, He's gonna say who has the most impact, 1014 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 1: John Fossil, who's the most versatile, Who has the most impact? Right, 1015 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,480 Speaker 1: who is it that you have to have on the field? 1016 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 1: And all in all, you know, every every sequence. So 1017 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 1: I mean absolutely, absolutely, right Fossil is gonna have a 1018 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: huge saying this. I and just watching Cedric Wilson last week, 1019 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 1: I make a ton of plays or anything. But like 1020 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 1: you remember, he was really good for them last year 1021 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 1: in his role. I mean really good. And if Dak 1022 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,360 Speaker 1: had been there the whole year, they had a great connection, 1023 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 1: Like I know Seattle game. Yeah, Like I know, he's 1024 00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,840 Speaker 1: making two million bucks and Dad, can you know you 1025 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 1: look at the statu of the salary sheet and you're like, okay, 1026 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,320 Speaker 1: if Phoco, well he's making if he can push a 1027 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,280 Speaker 1: guy that's making two million bucks with your cap situation, 1028 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,360 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I think he's a guy that 1029 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 1: really in a receiver rotation. Dak likes him. He's a 1030 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 1: good player, that's the thing. So Dak likes him. And 1031 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,239 Speaker 1: then you factor in the standpoint we need to see 1032 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 1: how these guys block him. Yeah, how are they going 1033 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 1: to block? Because running the running game is so is 1034 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 1: such an important portion of with this offense, especially now, 1035 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 1: especially now right, if these guys are unwilling to get 1036 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,800 Speaker 1: in there and put which we know Noah Brown, Cygil Wilson, 1037 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 1: we know these guys to get in there and get dirty. Right, 1038 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 1: So you got Phoco and you got some of these 1039 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 1: new guys. If you don't want to show up me 1040 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 1: and get dirty, then you might as well go go 1041 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 1: ahead and post up. Yeah, it's not gonna work out 1042 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 1: for you too quickly whenever training camp comes around because 1043 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 1: of how crowded that room is, other crowded rooms in 1044 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:53,280 Speaker 1: the front seven edge rusher linebacker with that drusher specifically, 1045 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be really fun. Tank and 1046 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,760 Speaker 1: Gregory and then what a cluster after that? Dorin's Armstrong, 1047 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 1: Bradley and I basham Carlos watch or excuse me, Brent Urban. Yeah, 1048 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 1: Chauncey Golston is watched for and I think bash him. 1049 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 1: They brought in bash him and a lot of people 1050 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 1: kind of like it's, you know, why would they make that, 1051 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,839 Speaker 1: you know, guy that's kind of unproven, high draft pick, 1052 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 1: hadn't shown it, but his energy and his ability to 1053 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 1: you know, want, his want to you see you see 1054 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,839 Speaker 1: it being there, and I think if they could coach 1055 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: this guy up and if he can get around some 1056 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,239 Speaker 1: of these veteran guys and emulate some of what they do. 1057 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:36,440 Speaker 1: And we don't want to emulate everything from last season, 1058 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying some of those he is a 1059 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: guy that is going a hundred miles per hour all 1060 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 1: the time. And if you're a guy going one hundred 1061 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,840 Speaker 1: miles per hour and you don't have the moves in 1062 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,799 Speaker 1: your wheelhouse, you get stuck. Right, He's stuck in mud 1063 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,680 Speaker 1: mid move. He's just Those are some of the things 1064 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: that he has to cultivate. But he could be someone 1065 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 1: that pushes another guy, maybe adoring song Strong, maybe a Bradley, 1066 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 1: a Ni Kyle. Yeah, I don't. I don't like that. 1067 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,839 Speaker 1: I know you don't. But Bradley looked good. Bradley looked 1068 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 1: like he's wait, yeah, yeah, I mean he looks more explosive. 1069 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 1: I think those are the things that happened to a 1070 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 1: guy in the second year in the league. Did he 1071 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:12,920 Speaker 1: gain a couple inches on his arms? He did not. 1072 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 1: That's tough to do. Dang it, it's worth a shot. 1073 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 1: I thought I would at least ask can Terrell Basham 1074 00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 1: be this year's Alden Smith. That's a good question. Kind 1075 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:27,320 Speaker 1: of an undersung signing who had, of course a great 1076 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 1: past but or not a great pass but at least 1077 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 1: a high performance passed with the early draft pick and 1078 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 1: whatnot work his way into the starting lineup. And actually 1079 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 1: produce a little bit. I think he's gonna play. I'm 1080 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 1: gonna play quite a bit. I mean, I think he 1081 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,439 Speaker 1: was a guy that was on a bad team last 1082 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 1: year but was productive and the motor is exactly it. 1083 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 1: That's what they like about him, and they liked him 1084 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 1: a lot coming out. You know, they knew about him 1085 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 1: coming out of the draft. So I think he's gonna 1086 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,840 Speaker 1: have a role, a defined role, and maybe you know, 1087 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna play as much as 1088 00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 1: Alden did, but he's gonna be in the rotation. I'd 1089 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 1: be shocked if he wasn't. I think that would be 1090 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,880 Speaker 1: That's a fun one to look out for because I 1091 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 1: think he as compared to the draft picks, I mean, 1092 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 1: with Chauncey Golston and some of these other guys, he's 1093 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,440 Speaker 1: one of the last talked about and I think he 1094 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,440 Speaker 1: should be one of the first talked about it right 1095 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,680 Speaker 1: after Tank and Gregory, right in that defensive line group. 1096 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,160 Speaker 1: So we've mentioned some of these position groups. What about 1097 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,239 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator Gentleman, because we do have another voice in 1098 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,960 Speaker 1: the pile this year, in the room this year, on 1099 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 1: the second week in a row, Ben McAdoo pressure on 1100 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore maybe. I mean, of course McAdoo was pretty 1101 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,760 Speaker 1: decent as the offensive coordinator for the Giants in twenty 1102 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 1: fourteen and twenty fifteen. Kellen Moore has to improve when 1103 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 1: it comes to the red zone that I mean, bottom line, 1104 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,840 Speaker 1: that's where his weakness is. McAdoo was pretty good in 1105 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 1: the red zone during his time in New York. Isaiah, 1106 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,880 Speaker 1: you gave me a little smirk whenever I mentioned Ben McAdoo. 1107 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,439 Speaker 1: What do you know about for the Giants? It wasn't 1108 00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 1: during that time, though, it was not during that time. Yeah, 1109 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,719 Speaker 1: we're gonna see what mac would do, because I mean, 1110 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna see what he does. And as a consultant, 1111 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 1: by the way, absolutely he's a consultant. And I honestly 1112 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:13,719 Speaker 1: don't know how um influential UM consultants are when it 1113 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:14,920 Speaker 1: comes to the team. I have never been in a 1114 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,799 Speaker 1: position where there was a higher consultant. Now there were 1115 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,799 Speaker 1: other guys around, but um, we'll see. You know, maybe 1116 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 1: he'd maybe he'd just be kind of a big brother 1117 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,680 Speaker 1: to killing more and maybe it's somebody he can lean 1118 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 1: kind of lean on, you know. If I don't, I 1119 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,400 Speaker 1: don't know Keiller Moore enough to know if he if 1120 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,400 Speaker 1: he's somebody that would ask, you know, that'll kind of 1121 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,840 Speaker 1: step up the side of himself to ask for others 1122 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,320 Speaker 1: opinions or other point of views. Um. But you know, 1123 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,400 Speaker 1: as somebody who's been around the league for a little bit, 1124 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,839 Speaker 1: maybe and it never hurts to have another voice around 1125 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,719 Speaker 1: unless they're just really trying to overthrow what you're doing. 1126 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 1: So I don't have much to say aside from another 1127 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,799 Speaker 1: it's another it's another brain and in the room, man, 1128 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,359 Speaker 1: that's a political answer right there. Like that, that's how 1129 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:55,799 Speaker 1: you run for a position. I don't think it's political though, 1130 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,480 Speaker 1: because I don't. We don't really know what he's gonna do. 1131 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 1: We don't really know his role. What what does consultant mean? 1132 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 1: I don't really know. Right we have consultants out here 1133 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,719 Speaker 1: coaching the linebackers. So I mean there's all things being 1134 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 1: considered equal, and I think we have to look at 1135 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:15,160 Speaker 1: that and absolutely look when you talk about his success 1136 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 1: and what he was able to do in New York, 1137 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,480 Speaker 1: right red zone specialists if you want to call him 1138 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 1: any of that. Kyle last week talked about the creativity 1139 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 1: of the offense kind of lagging. Maybe that's where he 1140 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,720 Speaker 1: comes in and gives some pointers. You know, I think 1141 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:34,960 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore obviously he's unbothered either way it goes because 1142 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,920 Speaker 1: he's should be. It's his job, right, and he recognizes 1143 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,439 Speaker 1: in the personnel and the guys that have played under 1144 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,920 Speaker 1: him believe in him. Hadn't heard anything to the contrary 1145 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 1: around here. So whatever McAdoo is going to do, it's 1146 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 1: going to him to add. It's going to be adding 1147 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,480 Speaker 1: to what we already have, not taking away. I agree, 1148 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 1: another set of eyes, sounding board, whatever you want to 1149 00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,200 Speaker 1: call it. You mentioned linebackers. I was thinking the same thing. 1150 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 1: George Edward accomplished coach available brought him in last year. 1151 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,640 Speaker 1: Now that was a coaching role, kind of helping with 1152 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:10,840 Speaker 1: the linebackers. Um, I think in terms of helping with Dak, 1153 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 1: helping maybe even some of the game planning stuff. Maybe 1154 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna be involved there. But Kellen Moore just got 1155 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 1: contract extension. Man, Yeah, he's good. There's no threat there. 1156 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,240 Speaker 1: I mean, like if it is, it's not been Macado. 1157 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 1: I don't think no, it's I mean, like I said, 1158 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:25,880 Speaker 1: it's just you're sitting in a meeting room. You know, 1159 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,440 Speaker 1: you have you have Deak Prescott you got Kellen Moore 1160 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,600 Speaker 1: on one side, you got macadoo on the other side, 1161 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,000 Speaker 1: and Kellen Moore is coaching up Dak and all of 1162 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 1: a sudden, you McAdoo taps him on the shoulders like, hey, 1163 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 1: you know, check this out. That's it. That's that's what 1164 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 1: I that's why I foresee And then maybe in the 1165 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,200 Speaker 1: game planning, yeah, you know, he says, hey, how about 1166 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,440 Speaker 1: you guys think about this. Yeah, that's that's it. That's 1167 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 1: all I foresee him doing. But we don't know. He's 1168 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,440 Speaker 1: been with McCarthy three different spots. That's boy. Yeah. So 1169 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,720 Speaker 1: and that's what coaches do. That's what coaches about their friends. 1170 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,360 Speaker 1: That's called the coaching tree for reads. Shake it, a 1171 00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,160 Speaker 1: guy falls out, that's been macado. Here we go. Ben 1172 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,400 Speaker 1: mcadoo's gonna be in training camp. He's gonna talk to 1173 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 1: Michael Gallup. He's gonna be like, hey, Michael, hey, do 1174 00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,640 Speaker 1: the one handed catch thing over the top of a 1175 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 1: Cowboys dB Rob. I'm just just I didn't we didn't 1176 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,000 Speaker 1: get a text message when he was on ESPN. Well, 1177 00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,480 Speaker 1: I was gonna back. This side of the room is 1178 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,919 Speaker 1: na ESPN. That side of the room is YESPC. The segregation. Wow. Wow, 1179 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,440 Speaker 1: I mean, did you get an invite? I did not. 1180 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:28,520 Speaker 1: I did not either. So you're saying that mcadoo's getting 1181 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 1: pulled up by his boy, but they didn't. I think 1182 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 1: I did invite you at one point whenever heck like missed. 1183 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 1: I think I did invite Isaiah and he said, nah, man, 1184 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to do it. I should have called Rob. No, No, 1185 00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,560 Speaker 1: I didn't. The key word there was think look and 1186 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,240 Speaker 1: the thing is and the thing is about it is 1187 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 1: you have to show some professionalism and be on time 1188 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,640 Speaker 1: the first time and together up he Wait a minute, maybe, no, 1189 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,200 Speaker 1: it's coming. You know it's coming. You don't have to 1190 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,120 Speaker 1: go one hundred miles fur your tesla. What's going on 1191 00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 1: with the state troopers around here? Man? Somebody to get 1192 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 1: this guy boy. I told him I knew somebody who 1193 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:14,720 Speaker 1: worked for ESPN. You guys, so let's go. You're gonna 1194 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,920 Speaker 1: be a lot a lot slower on the way back 1195 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 1: while driving. Oh that's gonna do it for us on 1196 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 1: talking cowboys. Oh good, Thank you for sticking with us 1197 01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:27,880 Speaker 1: here over the last hour. I hope you had a 1198 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,040 Speaker 1: great weekend. We will see you regular time next week 1199 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:34,200 Speaker 1: Monday at eleven thirty, and of course that is subject 1200 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,080 Speaker 1: to change because I don't know what the actual schedule 1201 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 1: is moving forward whenever it comes to upstairs, but we'll 1202 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 1: figure it out eleven thirty, tentatively next Monday here on 1203 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys for Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand Back, heck My Harrison, 1204 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 1: Scott Prizell, Aaron Gonzalez, and Chris Beam in the back 1205 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,840 Speaker 1: up Kyle Yeoman saying so long, We'll see you next 1206 01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,320 Speaker 1: week on Talking Cowboys. This has been a production of 1207 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.