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Speaker 1: This is what happens when the fourth Turning meets fifth

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Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran.

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Speaker 3: This is Human Events with your host Jack Persovic christ

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Speaker 3: is King.

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Speaker 1: All right, ladies and gentle and welcome board today's Human Events.

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Speaker 1: Specially we're going to take you inside Amfest. And so

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Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff that we did while we

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Speaker 1: were at Amfest, that the content that we got, the

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Speaker 1: interviews that I conducted, we you know, we put them

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Speaker 1: out on social media, but we wanted to make sure

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Speaker 1: that we actually included them here on the program as well.

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Speaker 4: So what we've done.

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Speaker 1: With this episode we put two together. We've got one

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Speaker 1: interview that I did and then one panel. So we'll

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Speaker 1: start with one and we'll move to the other. And

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Speaker 1: first up, you've got my interview with Megan Kelly. Now

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Speaker 1: you may have seen clips of this. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people were very critical of things that Megan said, as

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Speaker 1: well as a lot of people were very supportive of

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Speaker 1: things that Meghan said. Certainly was a controversial interview to

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Speaker 1: say the least. And so look for those of us

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Speaker 1: who were there, myself as the interviewer, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to put words in Megan's mouth. I'm gonna let you

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Speaker 1: watch it, and then right after that an interview with

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Speaker 1: the Catholic Panel. So stay tuned, take you back to Amfest.

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Speaker 3: That's not beautiful people, Bye ye bye, Hi guys, it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: So cool, ladies and gentlemen, we're here with Megan.

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Speaker 4: Kelly at Amfest.

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Speaker 3: Just when you think Jurning Point can go next level

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Speaker 3: on the walkout, they can. They can shift to eleven.

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Speaker 1: Megan, I've got to ask, how does it feel to

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Speaker 3: Oh, like you, Jack, I miss him so much. And

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Speaker 3: this is how we would always do it right, because

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Speaker 3: to miss but I can't believe it's been three months

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Speaker 3: In some ways it feels like yesterday, and in some

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Speaker 1: Somebody brought up a you know, an event I was

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Speaker 1: I remember thinking to myself, we were sitting, we were

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Speaker 4: Everything was just normal life. And then suddenly.

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Speaker 1: God snaps his fingers and shows you that you.

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Speaker 4: Are not in control, that He is in control.

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Speaker 1: That you are a spectator, you are a reactor, you

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Speaker 1: are someone who is living out God's will. And I

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Speaker 1: I've been And look, you know, it's not easy doing

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Speaker 1: not done out of anger. It is done, as Charlie

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Speaker 4: Girl down the aisle. That's a debt that needs to

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Speaker 3: And that's to say nothing of the debt that is

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Speaker 3: worked for you. I mean, if Charlie could see this,

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Speaker 3: we will both be watching that trial minute by minute,

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Speaker 3: and I believe justice will be done.

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Speaker 1: I think it will, and and you know, I do

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Speaker 1: believe that Charlie is watching us right now, and I'm

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Speaker 2: That's amazing.

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Speaker 3: Nothing will stand in our way, and our golden age

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Speaker 2: This is human events with Jack sob.

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Speaker 1: Now it's time for everyone to understand what America First

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Speaker 1: truly means. Welcome to the Second American Revolution. Nay, And

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Speaker 1: of course they do a handoff, because why not. But Megan,

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's a rift, but it was starting even

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Speaker 3: just is it's gotten worse without him. He was helping

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Speaker 3: out what we re released of Charlie and yours truly

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Speaker 3: talking about Israel weeks before he died, where we had

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Speaker 3: I resent the whole thing. I object to the whole

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Speaker 3: So he both wants to parent me and be my child.

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Speaker 3: Nobody knew who the heck Ben Shapiro was when I

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Speaker 1: So then, Megan, what is the way forward? What is

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Speaker 1: People of the military, the people that I knew, people

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Speaker 1: like me who were just guys who are serving, we

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Speaker 1: loved everything that you and all the people were doing

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Speaker 1: to support us, to support the things that we were doing,

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Speaker 1: to support the patriotism.

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Speaker 4: That we thought that we had.

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Speaker 1: And keep in mind, this was under Obama, so we

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Speaker 1: were in many cases feeling very isolated, feeling very you know,

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Speaker 1: very looked aside and blamed for a lot of the

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Speaker 1: things that were going wrong when.

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Speaker 4: We realized that these were political decisions that were happening.

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Speaker 1: Keep in mind, this is the era of Benghazi, This

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Speaker 1: was the era of the drone strikes, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 4: So I just wanted to say that I hope you.

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Speaker 1: Know that there are so many people in the United

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Speaker 1: States military, in my state's law enforcement that would be

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Speaker 1: out there watching you day in and day out, and

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Speaker 1: there still are today, and we wanted to thank you

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Speaker 1: for having our back.

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Speaker 3: Oh Jack, that is so sweet. The fact that you

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Speaker 3: would put it. The thanks goes the other way. It

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Speaker 3: does not go from the military to the embarrassing part. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to I'm gonna admit it.

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Speaker 1: We used to kind of have like an office pool

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Speaker 1: about Meghan. And keep in mind, this is a couple

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Speaker 1: of guys in the military. We always used to try

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Speaker 1: to guess which color you would.

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Speaker 4: Wear that day.

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Speaker 3: It being Fox, it was a high likelihood of a neon, pink, red,

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Speaker 3: or yellow.

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Speaker 4: I was always green.

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Speaker 1: I always went with Kelly, Kelly Green, Meghan, Kelly.

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Speaker 3: The one thing that would have cost you the bed

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Speaker 3: immediately was orange. Because Roger did not allow or no

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Speaker 3: our is ever black occasionally black. They didn't love black,

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Speaker 3: but they would They sometimes like to get away with it.

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Speaker 3: You know why because there was a wardrobe leader there

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Speaker 3: who really felt like the orange, like the neon colors

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Speaker 3: would pop. So somebody who is channel surfing, would you like, oh,

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Speaker 3: the bright pink and a blonde head. I'll stop, what

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Speaker 3: does she have to say? And lo and behold That

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Speaker 3: formula worked and Fox News became number one within a

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Speaker 3: few short years after launch.

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've tried that myself, but I don't really

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Speaker 1: have the same effect. Meghan.

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Speaker 3: No, it's different in podcasting. But you have a voice

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Speaker 3: for podcasting, Jack One.

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Speaker 4: My dad says I have a voice for radio too. Meghan,

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Speaker 4: thank you.

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Speaker 1: So much for your leadership on this, for your guidance

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Speaker 1: for brokering peace in a situation like this, for stepping

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Speaker 1: up and being a leader when you could have been divisive,

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Speaker 1: when you could.

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Speaker 4: Have taken sides.

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Speaker 1: But I'll say it from my side and you as well.

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Speaker 1: I'm on America's side, I'm on turning point side, and

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Speaker 1: I'm on Charlie's side right.

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Speaker 3: On same same, sign me up. Thank you all so much.

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Speaker 4: Give it up for Megan, Kelly.

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Speaker 3: God bless.

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Speaker 8: Good morning, and thank you for attending our session. Neil

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Speaker 8: for the Eucharist and stand for truth? How to inspire

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Speaker 8: Catholics to vote?

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Speaker 6: And Jack?

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Speaker 7: Where's Jack?

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Speaker 6: Where's Jack?

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Speaker 8: Where is he?

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Speaker 1: Jack?

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Speaker 3: I want to see you.

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Speaker 7: Great job, Jack, Thank you, what a job you do.

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Speaker 6: You know, we have an incredible thing.

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Speaker 9: We're always talking about the fake news.

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Speaker 1: And de BD, but we have guys and these are

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Speaker 1: the guys who are begetting pulices.

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Speaker 8: We're going to start our session with Marcus giving an

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Speaker 8: overview on Catholic ballot chasing that we used in twenty

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Speaker 8: twenty four, and we will be using again in twenty

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Speaker 8: twenty six. Then we'll move to a panel discussion. Marcus

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Speaker 8: will now give us an overview of the Catholic Action

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Speaker 8: Network ballot chasing process.

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Speaker 6: Marcus, good morning.

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Speaker 5: So I just want to go over and share a

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Speaker 5: few of the Catholic Action Networks accomplishments from the last election.

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Speaker 5: We moved disengaged Catholic Republican voters from a twenty percent

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Speaker 5: voting rate in twenty twenty to an eighty seven percent

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Speaker 5: voting rate in twenty twenty four. We did it with

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Speaker 5: God's help and partnering with Turning Point to create a

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Speaker 5: specific section of disengaged Catholic registered Republican voters in the

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Speaker 5: Turning Point app. We recruited captains from our ninety six

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Speaker 5: Catholic parishes around the diocese. We organized and implemented voter

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Speaker 5: registration at our parishes, called and texted Catholic specific scripts

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Speaker 5: for disengaged Catholic Republican voters. We mailed twelve thousand Catholic

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Speaker 5: themed voter information postcards to disengaged Catholic Republican voters. On

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Speaker 5: election Day, We called and texted Catholic Republicans shown as

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Speaker 5: not having voted yet in the election, contacted them and

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Speaker 5: made sure that they knew where they could go to vote,

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Speaker 5: and urge them to get out cast their votes and

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Speaker 5: bring their faith.

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Speaker 4: Into the public square.

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Speaker 5: For twenty twenty six, we can win the midterms by

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Speaker 5: ballot chasing again disengaged Catholic Republican voters. If you will

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Speaker 5: scan the code up here so that you can receive

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Speaker 5: detailed information on the Catholic Action Network Committee and our

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Speaker 5: work with the Catholic ballot Chase.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Marcus.

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Speaker 8: Thanks for the overview, and as he said, taking Catholics

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Speaker 8: and moving them from a twenty percent to an eighty

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Speaker 8: five percent, we know that every state can do that.

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Speaker 8: We need to get Catholics in the public square. We

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Speaker 8: need to get Catholics to vote our morals and values

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Speaker 8: so we can We'll have this scan code back up

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Speaker 8: at the end of our presentations so you can get

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Speaker 8: into that and obviously we'll help you in any way

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Speaker 8: can Marcus, Thanks for the overview, and now it's my

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Speaker 8: honor to introduce our distinguished panelists. I'd like to acknowledge

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Speaker 8: a recent addition to our panel, Father John Parks, and

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Speaker 8: Father Parks is a respected priest within the Diocese of Phoenix.

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Speaker 8: He serves as the pastor of Saint Joseph's Parish and

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Speaker 8: is the prior director of Evangelization for the diocese. And

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Speaker 8: something well know is he is also a Hall of

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Speaker 8: Famer along with Erica Kirk at Notre Dame Prep High

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Speaker 8: School here in Scottsdale, Arizona.

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Speaker 1: You never know.

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Speaker 9: It's just like for general character.

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Speaker 8: Kelsey Reinhardt the President and CEO of Catholic Vote. A

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Speaker 8: graduate of Notre Dame University and a former Dominican sister.

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Speaker 8: She served as a director of Media and Evangelization for

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Speaker 8: Catholic Vote before becoming the CEO in June of this year.

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Speaker 8: Jose Palido, President of Learning and Development, where he trains

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Speaker 8: Catholics in communication skills to stand up for their faith

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Speaker 8: and morals. An alumnus of Yale University and a former

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Speaker 8: political advisor in Washington, d c our final panelists who

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Speaker 8: really doesn't need an introduction Jack Pasovic. One of the

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Speaker 8: most important parts is Jack is a devout Catholic, was

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Speaker 8: a military intelligence officer. He's hosted the podcast Human Events

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Speaker 8: Daily and most importantly a member of the Turning Point

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Speaker 8: Action team, and thank you panelists for being here with

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Speaker 8: us to share your thoughts on how to inspire Catholics

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Speaker 8: to vote. I'd like to start the conversation with this question, Kelsey,

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Speaker 8: what do you think is the greatest obstacle preventing Catholics

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Speaker 8: from involvement in the political or at least even voting.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's a great question. Thank you so much, Cindy.

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Speaker 2: I want to start out, maybe with the most important

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Speaker 2: point that Catholics are the lynchpin in every election in

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Speaker 2: the last fifty years, every presidential election except for one

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Speaker 2: was decided by the Catholic vote. That's because the Catholic

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Speaker 2: vote is also a little bit swingy. So you saw

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Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty election the Catholic vote went for

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Speaker 2: Biden narrowly fifty to forty nine. In the last election

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Speaker 2: it went sixty five I've percent for Trump. So marshaling

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Speaker 2: the Catholic vote is an important aspect of what we

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Speaker 2: do now. The question is a little bit difficult. I'm

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Speaker 2: interested in hearing what the other panelists have to say.

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Speaker 2: Why is it so difficult for Catholics to vote when

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Speaker 2: you look at the numbers of Evangelicals who vote versus Catholics.

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Speaker 2: I have a hypothesis, probably not applicable to this room,

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Speaker 2: but that people have what I call a temptation to

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Speaker 2: political pietism. Politics is too messy, it's too dirty. I

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Speaker 2: don't want to be involved. If I just pray and

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Speaker 2: I go to Mass. Why do I have to involve

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Speaker 2: myself in this ring? Answering that question, I think is

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Speaker 2: going to be definitively important when you go out and

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Speaker 2: you invite people to be involved in this process, which

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Speaker 2: is a moral duty. So I want to ask Jose

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Speaker 2: he might have a different thought here and Jack what

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Speaker 2: they think the greatest obstacle is, because it's it's certainly

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Speaker 2: not just one answer.

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Speaker 7: Yes, confidence, We as Catholics need to feel more confident,

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Speaker 7: and we need to be able to give that confidence

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Speaker 7: to others. When we look in acts, we see that

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Speaker 7: even at the very beginning of Saint Paul's ministry, he

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Speaker 7: is being called to share the faith with Gentiles, Kings

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Speaker 7: and Israelites. And that's because of how he was prepared.

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Speaker 7: All of you here, whether it's Ali cam other people,

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Speaker 7: you are ready to share the faith. You are ready

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Speaker 7: to participate, you're ready to vote. And the reason is

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Speaker 7: and this I know this for sure is because you

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Speaker 7: can love. You can love. God said, so if you

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Speaker 7: can talk to your family member and the Christmas dinner table,

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Speaker 7: if you can talk to your neighbor, if you can

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Speaker 7: research things with charity, you are prepared to do this,

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Speaker 7: you can love. You can love via your vote, you

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Speaker 7: can love via your conversation.

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Speaker 4: You can do this.

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Speaker 2: So, Jack, how is voting an act of love? You

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Speaker 2: were resonating when I said it's a little bit despairing

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Speaker 2: out there. Political pietism is real. What are your thoughts

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Speaker 2: on this?

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you so much for again having me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for everyone for being here on

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Speaker 1: a Saturday morning. I know it's early, I know there's

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Speaker 1: a lot to do, but personally, I couldn't think of

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Speaker 1: anything better to do this morning to be here and

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Speaker 1: give praise to our eternal creator and our internal savior,

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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, the King of the universe, which we are

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Speaker 1: about to do very shortly here at adoration, And that's

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Speaker 1: why I made sure to be here as well. We

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Speaker 1: got my family here, my very sleepy five year old

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Speaker 1: in the front row, and look, you know, when it

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Speaker 1: comes to political piety. I also wanted to add because

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Speaker 1: you see two sides of this, because on one side

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Speaker 1: you see the political piety of people saying, oh, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to get involved in politics. But then on

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Speaker 1: another side you see people who are so pious they

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Speaker 1: will say, oh, well, Donald Trump isn't you know, Catholic enough,

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Speaker 1: and he's not pro life enough, and he's not this enough.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not going to vote because I can't vote

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Speaker 1: for a guy like that. And I would say, I

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Speaker 1: understand it, I get it. We're pushing him in the

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Speaker 1: right direction. But at the same time, if you don't

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Speaker 1: come out, then Kamala Harris gets in. Because it is

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Speaker 1: a binary. You have to look at politics as it

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Speaker 1: is not a vacuum. It is relative. And if she

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Speaker 1: got in, remember when she was in the United States Senate,

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Speaker 1: what was she doing. She was demonizing the Knights of Columbus,

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Speaker 1: she was demonizing the little sisters.

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Speaker 4: Of the poor.

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Speaker 1: She was there when Merrick Garland and Chris Ray were

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Speaker 1: sending the FBI after traditional Catholics who are praying their

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Speaker 1: rosaries a little bit too hard, and I said, you

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Speaker 1: know what you want to come for me.

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Speaker 4: Here's my rosary.

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Speaker 1: Please come for me, because this is absolutely key soy,

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Speaker 1: you need to break that and understand get people to

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Speaker 1: understand that if we let Marxist win, the Catholics are

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Speaker 1: the ones they're going to come first for. And in fact,

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Speaker 1: they've already started, haven't they. They've already started. And what

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Speaker 1: I would say then to answer your question, though, how

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Speaker 1: do you convert those Catholics from you know, sort of

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Speaker 1: just going to mass to becoming politically active.

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Speaker 4: It's really simple.

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Speaker 1: And the way I teach it to my boys is

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Speaker 1: I use the I actually use the Charlie Brown Christmas

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Speaker 1: Special to explain this, the Charlie Brown Christmas Special, which

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Speaker 1: is my favorite, and I think we'll always go down

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Speaker 1: as the best one because we know, of all the

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Speaker 1: classic Christmas specials, that is the only one, the only

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Speaker 1: one where when he's asked about this question what is

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Speaker 1: the true meaning of Christmas? Linus gets up in a

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Speaker 1: public school, in a public forum, a secular forum, and

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Speaker 1: the remember this was the nineteen sixties, so this was

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Speaker 1: the height of the cultural Revolution when they were trying to.

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Speaker 4: Drive God out of everywhere.

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Speaker 1: He gets up and he says, and he just starts

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Speaker 1: voting directly from Luke, and he explains the truth of

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Speaker 1: the matter that it was Jesus Christ, as God's only son,

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Speaker 1: who came to this world so that those who believe

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Speaker 1: in him may be saved.

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Speaker 8: Jack is a great guy.

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Speaker 1: He's written that fantastic look and everybody's talking about it.

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Speaker 1: Go get it.

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Speaker 9: And he's been my friend right from the beginning of

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Speaker 9: this whole beautiful event.

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Speaker 1: And we're going to turn her around and make our

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Speaker 1: country way to get him.

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Speaker 5: Amen.

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Speaker 1: That is the reason for Christmas and Linus's testimony in

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Speaker 1: public meant that being a Christian, being a Catholic is

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Speaker 1: not something that you just do behind closed doors on

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Speaker 1: a Sunday morning.

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Speaker 4: Or Saturday vigil. Right.

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Speaker 1: I know people are going to Saint Mary's. Have to

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Speaker 1: check the schedule on that, sweetheart, if we can make it.

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Speaker 1: But we'll probably be at Saint Mary's at some point

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Speaker 1: this week. And I'm sure you must become Catholics in public.

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Speaker 1: And so for me, Look, I'm gonna carry this where

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Speaker 1: I go because you need that spiritual defense, because we

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Speaker 1: are living through spiritual warfare. And don't be afraid. And

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Speaker 1: when people see you doing it, they will follow you.

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Speaker 1: They will follow Those are some.

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Speaker 2: Powerful words, Father Parks. What does the church cheat about

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Speaker 2: the involvement of the laity in the political sphere.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but it's simply it's your job. So thank you.

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Speaker 4: Wow, he's good. You should do this for professionally.

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Speaker 9: So my job as a priest is to help form

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Speaker 9: people in the Catholic faith, to feed them spiritually through

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Speaker 9: the sacraments of the Church. But at the end of

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Speaker 9: the Mass, I say, go and make disciples of all

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Speaker 9: nations are going pronouning the Gospel of God. And the

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Speaker 9: old Mass in Latin was et mesest and eta is

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Speaker 9: the command form in Latin. So the priest is saying,

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Speaker 9: you've heard about Christ of the scriptures, you've received Christ

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Speaker 9: of the You Christ, now be Christ to the world.

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Speaker 9: So to put some of the role of the laity

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Speaker 9: is to bring everything under the dominion of Christ. There's

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Speaker 9: an old thing. And if Jesus is not the Lord

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Speaker 9: of all, he's not the lord at all. So he's

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Speaker 9: the lord of every part of your life. As Jack saying,

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Speaker 9: he's the Lord in my heart, he's the Lord of

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Speaker 9: my church. Then when I'm a Catholic everywhere I go,

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Speaker 9: that's not called imposing my faith. That's called integrity. I'm

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Speaker 9: the same person before God, all throughout the world. So

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Speaker 9: the role of the laity is to form their conscience

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Speaker 9: well according to the Catholic faith, and then to bring

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Speaker 9: everything under the dominion of Christ to be salt and

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Speaker 9: light in the world.

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Speaker 1: Can I actually I'm talking out a turn, but something

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Speaker 1: I heard recently about be salt and light. And Doctor

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Speaker 1: All Marshall talks about this, be salt and light. Go

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Speaker 1: out there and be salty. And what does salt and

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Speaker 1: light do? This is so interesting. What do salt and

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Speaker 1: light do? And Christ calls us to be salt and light.

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Speaker 1: Salt and light are both change agents. They change the

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Speaker 1: environment in which they're in. So salt can be a preservative,

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Speaker 1: salt can be a spice. Salt changes the food it

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Speaker 1: change to the texture, the flavor of it.

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Speaker 4: And what does light do?

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Speaker 1: We all know light affects darkness. Light gives us the

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Speaker 1: ability to see. So when he says b salt and light,

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Speaker 1: it means change the environment in which you're in.

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Speaker 2: Very well said, Very well said. I would just add,

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Speaker 2: building off of Father Park's comment. You know, Jesus didn't

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Speaker 2: say go out to all the earth and stop at

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Speaker 2: the ballot box, you know, or stop at the public square,

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Speaker 2: and you look at what happens when Catholics absent themselves

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Speaker 2: from the public square. I mean, how is it possible

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Speaker 2: that we're in a situation where we cannot understand the

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Speaker 2: difference between men and women. I mean, I played basketball

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Speaker 2: for the University of Notre Dame. You might have noticed

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Speaker 2: I'm a little tall. There are only six women. Well,

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Speaker 2: when I played, which was Yon's ago, there were only

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Speaker 2: six women in the history of the sport who could dunk.

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Speaker 2: And every sophomore boy over five ten spends his entire

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Speaker 2: summer sophomore year learning how to dunk. I mean, the

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Speaker 2: fact that we cannot understand and live basic truths in

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Speaker 2: the public square. That's a failure on our part, and

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Speaker 2: we need to accept responsibility because there are elements of

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Speaker 2: the light, the truth, and the Gospel that we need

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Speaker 2: to be bringing to every aspect of the public square. Now,

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Speaker 2: ose talk to us a little bit about how evangelization

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Speaker 2: fits into this. Because you've written a book how to

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Speaker 2: Evangelize Anyone. Obviously there's probably some principles in here that

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Speaker 2: apply both to the political life and to the practice

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Speaker 2: of proclamation of the Gospel.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, the key to evangelize is you have to start

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Speaker 7: with love and end with love. That's what the Catechism

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Speaker 7: said sixty six, start with end with love. Now to

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Speaker 7: do that, And this is why I'm so excited about

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Speaker 7: this panel that were basically warming up the stage for

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Speaker 7: the Eucharist, is you need to do two things. You

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Speaker 7: need to feel seen and you need to feel hope.

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Speaker 7: Now why do you need to feel seen? All of you,

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Speaker 7: all of you have done so many quiet sacrifices. Quiet sacrifices,

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Speaker 7: whether it's knocking on doors and them slamming on you,

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Speaker 7: whether it's proposing something to a family member and then

782
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Speaker 7: hanging up on you. Bring those things to the Eucharist.

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Speaker 7: Feel seen in front of Christ. And after you are seen,

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Speaker 7: after your sacrifice has been acknowledged, after he says to you,

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Speaker 7: well done, Kim, well done, Angie. After that, then start

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Speaker 7: to see Christ. And what does Christ have? He has

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Speaker 7: a vision for you. He has a vision. And that

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Speaker 7: is what if everyone, every Catholic was heard. What if

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Speaker 7: every Catholic was at the table, What if every cath

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Speaker 7: flick could share what they believed and people thought, not

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Speaker 7: only wow, that's important, but also I'm so glad he spoke.

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Speaker 7: I'm so glad she spoke, be seen in front of

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Speaker 7: the Eucharist, and then receive his hope.

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Speaker 2: Now, Jack, I want to turn to you for just

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Speaker 2: a second because one of the things that has fascinated

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Speaker 2: me is that our nonpracticing Presbyterian president has recognized the

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Speaker 2: importance of prayer and kicked off an entire initiative for

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Speaker 2: America two fifty called America Praise. And what he's asking

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Speaker 2: is for every person in this nation to join him

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Speaker 2: one hour a week in praying for the nation. What

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Speaker 2: insight does he have into the importance of prayer for

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Speaker 2: the recovery of our nation? And why do you think

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Speaker 2: this is so significant?

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Speaker 4: Well, that's a great question.

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Speaker 1: I actually had the opportunity to honor really of joining

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Speaker 1: this initiative, and the wor White House Faith Office reached

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Speaker 1: out to me and asked if I would come join

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Speaker 1: the coalitions kickoff at the Museum of the Bible in Washington, DC.

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Speaker 1: And if you guys haven't been there, it is the

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Speaker 1: best museum in all of Washington, d C.

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Speaker 4: You have to go there. You can skip the other ones.

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Speaker 4: It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: It's so awesome, Jack, Jack, He's in the front, Jackjack,

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Speaker 1: do you like Museum of the Bible. All right, good answer,

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Speaker 1: And wait, Jack, Jack, which play did we see there?

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Speaker 1: The Lion, the Witch, and the wardrobe? So they put

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Speaker 1: on plays about Narnia, they put all their it's fantastic. Look,

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Speaker 1: we need to understand that it is prayer. It is

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Speaker 1: the return to God that will bring our country forward.

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Speaker 1: Because and as you said before you were mentioning, you

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Speaker 1: know this trans athletes and the switching of the genders,

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Speaker 1: and what is that really driven by? Right, It's driven

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Speaker 1: by a denial of truth. It's driven by a denial

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Speaker 1: of truth and the acceptance of God. Walk it backwards.

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Speaker 1: If you believe in God, that means you believe the

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Speaker 1: Bible is true. And if you believe the Bible is truth,

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Speaker 1: and that means it must be written by the author

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Speaker 1: who wrote it must also be the author of truth,

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Speaker 1: which means that all truth was authored by God, because

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Speaker 1: He authored everything. So that when we return to God,

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Speaker 1: we are also returning to the truth. And to have

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Speaker 1: a well ordered, a truly ordered society, republic, community, town, family,

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Speaker 1: it means that we are ordering it based.

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Speaker 4: On God's truth.

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Speaker 1: And I believe that President Trump, No he's not Catholic,

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Speaker 1: But if you notice he's got Milania around him. He's

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Speaker 1: got jd Vance around him. I pop in from time

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Speaker 1: to time. So he's got a lot of Marco Rubio.

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Speaker 1: He's got a lot of Catholics that are around him.

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Speaker 1: And I think that they're working on him, they're preying

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Speaker 1: on him. And let me just say December eighth this year,

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Speaker 1: when you saw what the White House put out, a

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Speaker 1: full throated statement, a presidential proclamation praising our Mother, praising

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Speaker 1: our lady, praising Mary on the date of the Immaculate Conception.

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Speaker 1: And when you think about and I'll just say it,

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Speaker 1: I had tears in my eyes reading it, because we

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Speaker 1: went from just one year ago when our president was

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Speaker 1: well basically Barack Obama.

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Speaker 4: Think about it, think about it to right now.

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Speaker 1: If you go to the official White House website that

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Speaker 1: you will see some of the most sacred words ever

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Speaker 1: written are right there on the official website of the

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Speaker 1: White House of the United States of America.

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Speaker 4: Heil Mary, full of grace. It's there.

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Speaker 1: We've come a long way