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Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome into a Wednesday edition to Texans All Access from

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Speaker 2: the Monday Texans at Radio Studio. Man, we have got

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Speaker 2: a great draft Wednesday for you. Drew Doherty's gonna stop

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Speaker 2: by with me John Harris, your host, to do a

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Speaker 2: mock draft. And it's awesome. It is really really good.

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Speaker 2: If you heard it in the label, you're gonna hear

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Speaker 2: it again because it's really really good. But we're gonna

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Speaker 2: kick off the show with Mark vandermir and we are

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Speaker 2: going to go shopping Mark, how you doing.

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Speaker 1: Shopping for free agents? Johnny? Two degree? Okay? Two degree.

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Speaker 2: So this one's interesting because the franchise that the franchise tag.

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Speaker 3: What's the opposite of a deadline kickoff?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, kickoff window opens, window is open.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the window is open for franchise tags to

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Speaker 2: be doled out. Now, we've talked about this as it

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Speaker 2: pertains to the Texans here in that we've only had

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Speaker 2: two two Jevon Clowney in twenty nineteen, Dante Robinson.

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Speaker 4: Yep, Hey, hey me, Rick yep okay, so funny, like

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Speaker 4: that's the pavilion Dante Robinson memory.

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Speaker 3: But he made a lot of plays so good he.

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Speaker 1: Was, so yes, I know he did.

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Speaker 2: But then you have that situation, and it is so

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Speaker 2: interesting because I think it's a really kind of a

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Speaker 2: good lesson because as Dante described it, apparently he'd been

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Speaker 2: wearing those shoes his motivation throughout the summer and then

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Speaker 2: he just left him his locker and it's like, man, yikes.

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Speaker 2: I remember being in the locker room that day and

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Speaker 2: Richard Justice grabbed my arm and said, go check out

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Speaker 2: Dante Robinson's shoes above his locker, and so I'm like, okay.

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Speaker 2: So I kind of subtenly walked by him like and

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Speaker 2: I turned back to see him and he just starts

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Speaker 2: nodding his head like, oh my gosh, this is about

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Speaker 3: And it did, but that there. Robinson's a good player,

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Speaker 3: but pay me Rick.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Those are the only two franchise tags that have been

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Speaker 2: doled out. Our collective thought is, don't think a franchise

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Speaker 2: tag is going out to any one of the free agents.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't mean it won't just our gut says probably not.

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Speaker 2: But there are teams that could put the franchise tag

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Speaker 2: on particular players. So Judy Batista wrote an article Candidates

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Speaker 2: to watch while the window is open. So I want

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Speaker 2: to look at this from two perspectives. One these teams

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Speaker 2: franchising that particular player, and if they didn't, should and

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Speaker 2: will the Texans have interest in that particular player? Okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, so this is just her estimation of who

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Speaker 2: will get the franchise tag and if they didn't from

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Speaker 2: that particular team. Do you think the Texans could make

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Speaker 2: a move, should make a move? Is it too rich

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Speaker 2: et cetera. Let's start and I think these are an

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Speaker 1: I think, okay, b D.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, these are an ouph better quarder, so there's no

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Speaker 3: So it starts at the top.

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars franchising Josh Allen. Now this one can have

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Speaker 2: a lot of different tentacles. Because Jacksonville franchises Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: we then have to face him yet two and a

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Speaker 2: half sacks in a game the last time we saw him.

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Speaker 2: But if they don't franchise him, he could be leaving Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: So now Jacksonville's got a void because Trayvon Walker has

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Speaker 2: not been good enough to play in the edge full

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Speaker 2: time and be great like Josh Allen has been Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen franchised in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: If he's not, would.

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Speaker 2: He be on your list of a player that Texans

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Speaker 4: I would certainly check him out. He's gonna get top dollar.

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Speaker 4: And if he's not franchised, it's just gonna be a derby, right,

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Speaker 4: Whoever pays the most is gonna win. Yeah, he'll figure

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Speaker 4: in some other things. Would you want to play in Houston?

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Speaker 4: Would you want to pay no state income tax? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that kind of thing. But to me, he's a terrific

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Speaker 4: edge rusher. He could play the run. He would make

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Speaker 1: You really want to cough up that kind of dough

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Speaker 4: Well, you could just resign Grenard for maybe less money,

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Speaker 4: right than Josh Allen is going to get for maybe.

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Speaker 2: I said so along those lines, And that's kind That's

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Speaker 3: Do you want to pay that amount of money?

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Speaker 2: And it sometimes it gets down to, Hey, a guy's

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Speaker 2: But do you get similar value?

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Speaker 3: I think when it comes to Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I just assume at that point and I hope

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Speaker 2: we do resign John Gernard. I think Josh Allen's gonna

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Speaker 2: get more in the open market. Yeah, I think in

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Speaker 2: seventeen and a half Sacks, I think that's gonna be

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Speaker 2: real sexy. I just as soon bring back John Grenard

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Speaker 2: because I think the difference in the difference in what

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Speaker 2: I don't think the value you get. I think the

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Speaker 2: value difference between the two is negligible.

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Speaker 3: If not putting John Grenard ahead.

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Speaker 4: Oh interesting, Yeah, if you'd put him ahead, Well, look,

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Speaker 4: I don't think Johnny. I think maybe one player on

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Speaker 4: this team will be signed because a high market free agent. Okay,

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Speaker 4: maybe not one of these second tier I hate to

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Speaker 4: label anybody like that in this league. I respect the

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Speaker 4: man who play the game, But what you're high market

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Speaker 4: value free agents, I think you're only gonna get one

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Speaker 4: from a different team coming in, even from your own

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Speaker 4: tam Let's say Dalton Schultz is the number one tight end.

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Speaker 4: Let's say Grenard was the number one edge guy, even

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Speaker 4: though he's not on the market, but Dalton might.

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Speaker 1: I think Dalton is the number one tight end.

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Speaker 3: Think.

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Speaker 4: I think you're only going to win one of those battles,

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Speaker 4: and I think you only want to win one of

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Speaker 4: those battles for the high market value free agents. So

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Speaker 4: it might be Schultz, it might be somebody else, but

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Speaker 4: but I think one at most.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have. Are you with me there?

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Speaker 4: If you win two or three of those sweepstakes, that

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Speaker 4: means you're paying top dollars for two or three free agents,

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Speaker 4: and what does that do to your cap? The deal

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Speaker 4: they said yes to is a longer term or long

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Speaker 4: enough to be Hey, they could be outstanding players for you.

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Speaker 4: We're not talking about ability here, We're talking about how

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Speaker 4: cap strong you become right next year, the year after.

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Speaker 4: Do they pan out the way you want to see

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they're only going to get

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Speaker 1: one of those guys.

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Speaker 4: This is a day to remember February twenty first, when

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Speaker 4: I said this, and we'll check my work in about

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Speaker 4: a month and a half.

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Speaker 2: I've said all along that I felt like it would

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Speaker 2: be a maximum of one splash player, right.

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Speaker 1: So that's the same thing, right, right, So we agree.

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Speaker 2: I agree with that, but I do think that there's

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Speaker 2: a potential of signing one of your guys.

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Speaker 3: In addition to that, we.

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Speaker 1: Hang on a second though.

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Speaker 4: But Schultz a splash signing. I think it is at

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Speaker 4: this point because if another team signed Schultz don't have

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Speaker 4: one tight end on the market, you'd call that a

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Speaker 4: splash signing. So Schultz, to me, is a splash. Well,

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Speaker 4: we just had him, Yeah, but now he's free and

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Speaker 4: you got to pay top dons.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing people are gonna look at.

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Speaker 2: Well, because we already had him, it's not considered a

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Speaker 2: splash move, but it's number one tight end free agent market.

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Speaker 4: Okay, never splash if you want to define splashes, not

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Speaker 4: on your team and and makes headlines, because Schultz would

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Speaker 4: make headlines if he had the cut. Let's I agree,

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Speaker 4: I just had a one year deal with Carolina and

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Speaker 4: went nuts, right, and now you sign them that's a splash. Okay, crazy,

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Speaker 4: there's splash money and there's splash signing. You might not

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Speaker 4: call him a splash signing because you had him, he's

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Speaker 4: already you're in a relationship with him, but he is

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Speaker 4: free and you got to recommit.

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Speaker 3: I would Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know that I'm gonna get all the

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Speaker 1: You know how this business is.

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Speaker 4: If you're if you're paying Schultz, you're not paying Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: Or I doubt you are.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I think if you like take Schultz, see, I feel

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Speaker 2: like there are in this next one.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask you kind of plays into this.

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Speaker 2: All right, go ahead, because I feel like you could

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Speaker 2: sign a couple of players that like Don Schultz and.

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Speaker 3: Giants running back Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 2: I think you could eventually sign those two players for

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Speaker 2: what you'd have to pay for Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: Okay, really see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So that's different because the tight end doesn't command

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Speaker 2: So we get to Saquon Barkley. We've talked about that

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Speaker 2: a bunch. Don't know the Giants are gonna franchise them.

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Speaker 2: Don't know whether it makes sense for the Giants franchise,

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Speaker 2: but I think we've both talked about the impact that

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Speaker 2: Sakuon Barkley.

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Speaker 3: Would you have interest? Yes? And then it comes down

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Speaker 3: to two numbers. I thought about this.

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Speaker 2: I was listening to Sean and Seth this morning, and

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Speaker 2: one of them mentioned, I don't.

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Speaker 3: Know if somebody emailed it in or texted in or whatever.

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Speaker 2: It was three years, twenty seven million dollars for a contract.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my gosh, if Sakuon Barkley

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Speaker 1: All over it. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor with the Colts got three years at forty

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Speaker 2: three million, three years forty three There is no way.

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Speaker 2: And you know what that Saquon Barkley's taking three years

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Speaker 2: for twenty seven million, No way, no way.

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Speaker 4: He looks at himself as every bit as good. Yes,

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Speaker 4: if not maybe a notch low, a little tiny notch.

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Speaker 2: Correct, So could you get him for three for forty

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Speaker 2: I think that could happen. But that's still a lot.

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Speaker 2: It's still a lot of money. So that's a lot

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Speaker 2: of it's gonna be it's gonna be tough. Can you

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Speaker 2: get out of it in the third year? Well, that's

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Speaker 2: obviously with some contract mechanics probably so be.

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Speaker 4: Scott brought up a good point, what was David Johnson's contract?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I can't die this franchise.

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Speaker 2: But it was different people, It was different people, but

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Speaker 2: this it was eleven dollars.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was a ven point two million dollars

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Speaker 3: and you got what.

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Speaker 2: I think what would be an interesting exercise if this

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Speaker 2: were possible, is figure out what our guy's contract was

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Speaker 2: and then use numbers metrics however, and show with the

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Speaker 2: actual value that that player provided for your team.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you know they have a formula.

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Speaker 2: There's got to be our analytics people have probably got

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Speaker 2: some sort of form yes, because if David Johnson contract

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Speaker 2: values eleven point two, he gave us what two point six.

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Speaker 4: Well, you you have to gauge it through other players

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Speaker 4: year deal running backs, because you can't possibly compare it

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Speaker 4: Okay, I understand that. And again, it's gonna be top dollar.

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Speaker 2: Of those guys, which one would you want to be?

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Speaker 1: That's just exactly right. That's what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: For five, I have to fortify the position, all right.

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Speaker 4: To some of the listeners, like man, you could have

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Speaker 2: You can get good value. You already have Tanken Nico.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to bring back motor, but I think you

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Speaker 4: See Damian Pierce get back to twenty twenty two Damien Piers,

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Speaker 4: like we all would, but you you've got to add players.

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Speaker 4: You have to field a team at running back. You

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Speaker 2: I think Garrian Foster could be the guy in twenty ten,

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Speaker 2: I think at running back it's just not as deep.

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Speaker 3: And I know.

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Speaker 1: People were like, well you get two or three with that?

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Speaker 2: I think what you end up doing is you go

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Speaker 2: I want to go to Target, no offence, Target, but

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Speaker 4: Maybe I'll go to HGB for my paper towels or

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Speaker 4: crowg okay, tests part, that's fine?

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Speaker 1: How about that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very good, I'm good, TOGB.

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Speaker 4: You don't this whole conversation underscores besides groceries, this whole

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Speaker 4: you're all right? I would beat My head would be

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: But I think Nick feels like he's got the hot hand?

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Speaker 1: To the media? Crap? Shoot?

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Speaker 4: Right, absolutely, you know it is fifty whatever at best

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Speaker 1: I mean, they really they out of the park.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's just different. It's just going to be different.

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Speaker 4: Cant building, keep building that, absolutely, keep building. No doubts,

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Speaker 2: But now you can fill in the gaps with free

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Speaker 2: and you can't spend stupidly.

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Speaker 1: And you don't have.

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Speaker 3: Hell no, you don't have to pay that anymore. You

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: North Carolina has state income tax, so Brian Burns could

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Speaker 2: you feel very very good about that now speaking to draft,

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Speaker 2: Drew Dordy and I did a mock draft and we

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Speaker 5: What's up, everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to a Wednesday edition of Texans All Access

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Speaker 2: from Non daye Texans Radio Studio. I am John Harris

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Speaker 2: Football and a silo reporter for your Houston Texans and

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Speaker 2: the draft guys.

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Speaker 5: Some people like to say to me, that's fine. I

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Speaker 2: I love studying for the draft, find the players, talking

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Speaker 2: So Drew Dordy and I took that to a different

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Speaker 5: See what we can do with the Texans.

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Speaker 3: So here we go.

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Speaker 6: We are gonna do a mock draft today, and it's

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Speaker 6: a mock draft simulator. We're not gonna go through and

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Speaker 6: we don't. We don't care about that. We're just picking

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Speaker 6: mock draft simulator, which is a hell of a lot

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Speaker 6: of fun, they've got their rankings which differ from your

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Speaker 6: which differs from the PFF dot com rankings.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 6: One thing we love about this is they propose trades

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Speaker 6: the later stuff. Not always, but they come up with

441
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Speaker 6: some fascinating stuff that makes you pause, like, hey, do

442
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Speaker 6: you want to move back three spots and get a

443
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Speaker 6: first round pick next year? So you just swap first

444
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Speaker 6: this year and you get a first next year? And

445
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Speaker 6: then that maybe that makes you think really long and hard,

446
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Speaker 6: and there's a whole variety of other things that bring

447
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Speaker 6: up yep, and I want to do this.

448
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Speaker 1: So it's cool.

449
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's interesting because this weekend and I

450
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Speaker 2: just kind of laying around at kyle to just thinking.

451
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Speaker 2: And I have the piff max simulator. By the way,

452
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Speaker 2: it's it's free, whereas there have been others that are, Yeah.

453
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Speaker 6: This one's free. The PFF is changed it now, so

454
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Speaker 6: it's a cool one too. But you gotta pay money

455
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Speaker 6: for it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, if you know, it's funny you

457
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Speaker 3: and I were traded texts.

458
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Speaker 2: I actually had this idea for this Mack simulator for

459
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Speaker 2: you know, a long, long time ago, my buddy Lancerline

460
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Speaker 2: and I were doing a site together and we had

461
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Speaker 2: this idea. We just never really could get something like that,

462
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Speaker 2: the fruition, So we're just like, all right, we'll just

463
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Speaker 2: you know, great players to do all.

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Speaker 6: That we lamented over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So the key with all of this is how those

467
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Speaker 2: particular outlets have rated the players. Now that has everything

468
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Speaker 2: to do with how they grade your draft, Like, oh,

469
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Speaker 2: this would be plus like PFF used to grade the draft.

470
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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, but I think that guy's a top

471
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Speaker 2: twenty player. You think he's a top one hundred and

472
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Speaker 2: eighty five player. And so that's that's where we differ, sure,

473
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Speaker 2: and so that's you know, doing PF. So we're basically

474
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Speaker 2: going by pf ens ratings, which you're pretty good. But

475
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Speaker 2: they differ right, right, and they're gonna differ and they're

476
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Speaker 2: gonna differ from mine as well.

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Speaker 6: So they've changed them over the last week they had,

478
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Speaker 6: and they've changed them consistently for sure. But what they

479
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Speaker 6: had a week two weeks ago is different than it

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Speaker 6: is now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it in a week in a week or two

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Speaker 6: after the combine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Which I like that that they can update those,

485
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Speaker 2: and so you know, maybe one day Football takeover dot

486
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Speaker 2: Com we'll get there. We'll have a mock draft simulator

487
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Speaker 2: and they'll be based on my rankings. But they know

488
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Speaker 2: PFN doesn't do you great. They just you know, here's

489
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Speaker 2: what you ended up with. But when I was playing

490
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Speaker 2: around with this, I didn't draft until I think pick

491
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Speaker 2: one oh three. I had worked like seven trades I

492
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Speaker 2: ended up with. I ended up with two first rounders,

493
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Speaker 2: including Tennessee's first rounder. So when you sent me the

494
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Speaker 2: text over the weekend and said, hey, I don't think Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Would do this, but check this out. We could get

496
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Speaker 3: a top five.

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Speaker 2: Pick with the trade with Tennessee, I was like, I

498
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Speaker 2: didn't even save it because I had I ended up

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Speaker 2: with seven future draft picks and I ended up with

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Speaker 2: twenty current draft picks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had players all over the place.

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Speaker 2: I was just trade and just every time I just

503
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Speaker 2: hit accept accept except except so it's fun to do,

504
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Speaker 2: just to kind of see, you know, how you would

505
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Speaker 2: put it together and all that.

506
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Speaker 3: But it is a fun exercise for sure.

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Speaker 6: And along those lines, you have all those twenty picks.

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Speaker 6: That's not something in his history. Now that we've seen

509
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Speaker 6: Casario is a fan of and especially if he doesn't

510
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Speaker 6: like the seventh rounders as much as some gms like,

511
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Speaker 6: he's not. He doesn't want a big old class with

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Speaker 6: a bunch of guys from the later rounds. So that

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Speaker 6: is absolutely correct that in mind. I sometimes operate that way,

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Speaker 6: and I'll i'll just offload seventh rounders for a chance

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Speaker 6: to move up and get some stuff going.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, and I think you would too.

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Speaker 6: That's what we're gonna do today. So are you ready,

518
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Speaker 6: let's go. Let's do it. Okay, We're gonna minimize one

519
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Speaker 6: thing and then we're gonna maximize this.

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Speaker 3: And what's great about this is you're getting that ready.

521
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Speaker 1: And just tell people. If you go to PF.

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Speaker 6: Mock Draft simulator, it gives you select the number of rounds.

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Speaker 6: We're go seven. You can do your draft speed slow, normal, fast.

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Speaker 1: Now it's slow and normal.

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Speaker 2: You just always go fast fast because it'll wait for

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Speaker 2: you to make your pick.

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Speaker 6: And then you click on the Texans logo, click off

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Speaker 6: all the pop ups. Let's draft. Okay, so you know

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Speaker 6: Texans are picking twenty third in the first round and boom,

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Speaker 6: here we go. Okay, so before we tell you who's available.

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Speaker 6: The Lions, who are picking twenty ninth are offering to

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Speaker 6: swap first, so they'd move up to twenty three. You'd

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Speaker 6: get their twenty ninth overall, and you'd get next year's

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Speaker 6: second round pick of theirs. So I think they're gonna

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Speaker 6: be good next year. So it's gonna be a late second.

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Speaker 6: I bet we're gonna move back six spots. Now there's

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Speaker 6: one other offer, and that that's not in not a

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Speaker 6: bad one. It comes from Tampa Bay, who's picking three

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Speaker 6: spots behind you at twenty six, So they would swap first.

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Speaker 6: You'd move back three spots. You'd also give up pick

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Speaker 6: eighty six, which is a third rounder, but you would

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Speaker 6: move up to get fifty seven, so you'd move back

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Speaker 6: three spots in the first and then you move up,

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Speaker 6: you know, nearly nearly thirty spots, so you'd move into

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Speaker 6: the second round. You're swapping a third and a second.

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Speaker 6: I think it is a good deal. I mean, and

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Speaker 6: who's that with? That's with Tampa Bay, And I mean

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Speaker 6: i'd move back because okay, who but here's who's available.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what you got to tell me who's available?

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Speaker 6: And then with the highest rated players, fourteenth overall, and

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Speaker 6: that's JJ McCarthy is a quarterback out a Michigan nice player,

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Speaker 6: no interest, but you've got an edge rusher out of

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Speaker 6: Flora State. Seventeenth overall. Jared Verse makes me pause a

554
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Speaker 6: little bit. It does, it does, got a good center.

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Speaker 6: Twentieth overall, Jackson Powers Johnson out of Oregon. Another quarterback

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Speaker 6: from Oregon, Bo Knicks no interest notes. Okay, now if

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Speaker 6: you move back, you might miss out on this guy.

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Speaker 6: The twenty fifth rated player Byron Murphy. The second a

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Speaker 6: defensive tackle out of Texas, and right behind him twenty

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Speaker 6: seventh overall is Brian Thomas, now out of Verse. Murphy Thomas,

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Speaker 6: I think one of those guys would be available if

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Speaker 6: I moved back three spots with the Bucks.

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Speaker 2: You want to make this trade, Well it's a so

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Speaker 2: let's do this again. So those are the players. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: versus very very tempting. And it also has to do

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Speaker 2: and what I do with free agency too, because I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: if Jared Versus available at twenty three, it may not

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Speaker 2: even matter what I do.

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Speaker 1: In free agency.

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Speaker 2: I end up with a cost controlled, really dynamic pass

571
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Speaker 2: rush who started his career at Albany.

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Speaker 3: Then moved on to Florida State.

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Speaker 2: And was a hit the very first no Pun attended

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Speaker 2: the very first time he got there.

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Speaker 3: So this trade has to be really.

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Speaker 2: Really good, because I might even, like I said, I

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Speaker 2: might even I don't even know what the Texas are

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Speaker 2: gonna do free agency. I have no idea what they're

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Speaker 2: gonna do with Jonathan Gernard, but if if John does

580
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Speaker 2: walk and move somewhere else, they're going to have.

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Speaker 3: A need at that particular position.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they'll do with free agency.

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Speaker 6: I say, even if Grenard stays, I mean, I wouldn't

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Speaker 6: mind taking it right first.

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Speaker 1: So let's look at that trade again.

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Speaker 6: You're moving back three. So but look, what are the

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Speaker 6: Bucks doing? Do they want a quarterback? Are they sticking

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Speaker 6: with Baker Mayfield? Because McCarthy's available, bo Nicks is available, right,

589
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Speaker 6: don't know what they care about on the offensive line?

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Speaker 6: Behind you at twenty four are the Cowboys, right? They're

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Speaker 6: probably not gonna take those quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: But they'll probably take one of those defensive linemen.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Byron at least. Yeah. And then you also have

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Speaker 6: the Packers at twenty five, so.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a chance they could take a defensive

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Speaker 2: lineman two. So it's a risky call, right there. Let's

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Speaker 2: roll the dice, let's make the trade.

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Speaker 6: Okay, we're gonna accept.

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Speaker 3: Accept the trade and hope that one of those guys

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Speaker 3: is there.

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Speaker 6: Here we go, all right, Murphy, excuse me, Jackson Powers

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Speaker 6: Johnson was taken by They moved up to take a center,

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Speaker 6: Troy fa Utanu. Yeah, was the Cowboys pick?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Good player.

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Speaker 6: So Jared Versus still available because Byron Murphy got selected

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Speaker 6: by the Packers.

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Speaker 1: You're right.

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Speaker 2: What you did was you you played it the way

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Speaker 2: that that Nick talks about he talks about players, kind

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Speaker 2: of pause when you're looking at okay, what player can

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Speaker 2: be available or what players do we like at those

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Speaker 2: particular spots. How does that value match up? And that's

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Speaker 2: what that's what you're attempting to do. And so you

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Speaker 2: did it. You looked at those four players and thought, okay,

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Speaker 2: we'll moved down three spots to evaluate the trade. Pretty

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Speaker 2: good return on the trade to move down just three spots,

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Speaker 2: But are we gonna miss out on all those players

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Speaker 2: we think are of good value?

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Speaker 6: And now you've moved up, way up into the second round. Right,

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Speaker 6: You've got two second rounders.

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Speaker 2: So now you got two second rounders and you have

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Speaker 2: Verse on the board, and Thomas, I'm going Jared Verse.

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Speaker 3: Let's go Jared Versus though, oh am I getting another

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Speaker 3: trade offer.

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Speaker 6: The Rams have offered pick fifty two, pick eighty three

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Speaker 6: and next year second for this year's first and two

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Speaker 6: forty four. That doesn't blow me over if you've got

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Speaker 6: Jared Versus front of me. But there's also another trade offer,

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Speaker 6: and that comes from the Denver Broncos. This is interesting.

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Speaker 6: They want twenty six and pick one twenty three and

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Speaker 6: they're gonna give you pick eighty one. Yeah, but next

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Speaker 6: year's first and next year second. They're getting rid of

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Speaker 6: Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 2: It's very tempting because you've got a feeling that Denver's

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Speaker 2: probably trying to reset this whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: People thought that about us last year we went ten

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Speaker 2: and seven, got the division on in the playoffs. Sean

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Speaker 2: Payton one with a guy at quarterback that he didn't

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Speaker 2: really care for. He gets a guy that he cares for.

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Speaker 2: You know, who's to say?

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Speaker 6: I just I can't can't pass on what we what

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Speaker 6: we've got. I know, I like adverts. I want to

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Speaker 6: have Verse. Yeah, it would be nice to have the

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Speaker 6: first rounder next year. We got our own first round

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Speaker 6: of next year. But I'm gonna let's go Jared Verse

648
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Speaker 6: Florida State. I think that's gonna be a good fit.

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Speaker 6: I think he fits this defense. Uh, smart, hard, playing, twitchy.

650
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Speaker 6: We can play run and pass and that's important. So

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Speaker 6: let's go Jared Verse at number twenty three.

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Speaker 3: I like it.

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Speaker 6: I like it as well. I like it as well. Okay,

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Speaker 6: now we're on the clock at fifty seventh.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's the pick we obtained from the Tampa trade.

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Speaker 6: And we also have fifty nine, so it's us the

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Speaker 6: Browns at fifty eight, and that's their first pick of

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Speaker 6: the day. Okay, let's look the deal. Let's look at

659
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 6: our deals, and fifty nine, fifty seven to fifty nine.

660
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 6: We've got one offer fifty seven and two thirty five

661
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 6: four pick one oh eight of the Vikings, and then

662
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 6: next year's second and next year's fourth. I don't know.

663
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 3: On the board you get no, I don't like it.

664
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: I don't like it.

665
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 6: On the board, you got Michael Pennix junior. Nah, you've

666
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 6: got like him. Next guy is Adisa Isaac.

667
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 5: Oh.

668
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: Now we've already gone ed rusher desa. Isaac's a little

669
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: to poy. He's a long twitch thing. Yeah, but I

670
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 2: don't like it because we've already gone first. All right,

671
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: what else?

672
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 3: All right?

673
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 6: We get some interesting spots here. All right, there's about

674
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 6: seven guys. I'm I'm intrigued by Texas tight end Jatavian Sanders, Okay,

675
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 6: all right, Washington wide receiver Jalen Polk.

676
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: Like him, former Lufkin Texas I went to Texas Tech,

677
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: started his career there, then went on to Washington.

678
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 3: Uh my cop for him as a younger rock.

679
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 6: Woods Michael Hall, junior defensive tackle from Ohio State.

680
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: When it comes to twitchy, quick, fast footed interior defensive lineman,

681
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: Michael Hall junior is that dude.

682
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 3: He's two hundred and eighty pounds.

683
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: Though we already have guys that are of that ilk,

684
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: we need to be bigger.

685
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 6: Rooke or horo a ro row a row.

686
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: I know it sounds like you're saying, you know, it's

687
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: like you're joking around. It sounds like you're joking around.

688
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: Sounds like you're talking about Scooby Doo.

689
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, rooke a ro ro.

690
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: Row he is, uh Now, he's kind of that same Ilk.

691
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:36,719
Speaker 3: He's a little bit.

692
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 2: He's bigger than Hall, not not as twitchy, but has

693
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: those kind of twitchy, quick, agile athletic moments.

694
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 3: And he hasn't played a lot of football.

695
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: He started late, late in his high school career, so

696
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: I think he's got a lot of football ahead of him.

697
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: But again, with what I have on the defensive line,

698
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: I'm thinking I've got to get bigger, and I'm thinking

699
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: and hoping for one name to come down and I

700
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: might do that.

701
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 6: All right, Well, Patrick Paul the offensive tackle from Houston

702
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 6: is available nice now, but I think he got your

703
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 6: set there.

704
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 3: I think you're okay.

705
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 6: Chris Jenkins, Michigan defensive tackle.

706
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: Is now I'm starting to get interested. I like Chris

707
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: Jenkins a lot. I thought is thought his tape in

708
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two he is playing twenty twenty two is

709
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: better than twenty twenty three. But they did a lot

710
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: of rotation because Michigan's defensive line was so much better

711
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: this year, and so they could they those guys in

712
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: a defensive lot of Michigan played like thirty plays a game.

713
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 2: They didn't play a lot because they had a bunch

714
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: of them. So let's hold on that one. Okay, keep going.

715
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 6: I think you might be thinking about Mount McKinley. McKinley Jackson,

716
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 6: the monster from Texas, A and M defensive tackle.

717
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: I like him, I like him, I'm interested, But I

718
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: feel like McKinley's game is just pure power.

719
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: Now.

720
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: He's explosive and powerful. That's really what he is.

721
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: Now.

722
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 2: Can he develop into some other other you know this?

723
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: Can he become a pass rusher? He showed no pass

724
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: rush moves in the Senior Bowl. None, it was just

725
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: all Bowl rush. Yeah, I'm waiting for one name.

726
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 6: All right, I don't know if you're gonna see it.

727
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 6: You get a linebacker Cedric Gray out a North like

728
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 6: him as a cover guy. I like this wide receiver

729
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 6: and I want to take him with one of these

730
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 6: two picks. I don't want to leave without taking this guy,

731
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 6: because you don't have a chance at him. Roman Wilson's

732
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 6: ranked sixty six, the Michigan receiver. He gives me balls.

733
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: I'd be tempted to give Roman.

734
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: I'd be tempted to take Roman Wilson, But I got

735
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: to pick two picks later, and I am I'm I'm

736
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: not going to roll the dice. But I'm thinking about

737
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: who is after I'm trying to think who's fifty eight,

738
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: fifty nine?

739
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 1: Here we go?

740
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: Uh, fifty eight is Green Bay? Probably not taking a receiver.

741
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: No.

742
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 6: Fifty eight is the Browns?

743
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: Oh the Browns? Yeah, okay, could they go the receiver? Possibly?

744
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: But there's so many of them. That's why I'm gonna wait.

745
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 6: Okay, so who do you want to take out of

746
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 6: that crew? Because there's if you're asking about we're you

747
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 6: thinking about Sweat? Because he's gone.

748
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: What's gone? Okay, what's gone? Andre Sweat. That's what I

749
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: was angling for at fifty seven. I really would have

750
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: liked to have seen him.

751
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 6: You got Isaac, he gots Jatavian Sanders, Ulk call A ro,

752
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 6: Chris Jenkins, Cedric Grad.

753
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: Those which one do I think is probably somebody I

754
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: couldn't get two picks later? Yeah, I'm probably thinking Chris

755
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: Jenkins as the way to go. Now he's he's not.

756
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: His dad was Chris Jenkins. Now, his dad was a

757
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 2: big dude, three hundred and thirty five and forty pounds.

758
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 2: He was big, but he's agile. I remember a game

759
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 2: against the Jets. He was absolutely dominant. In twenty fifteen,

760
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: I think it.

761
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 6: Was this guy six thirty six, three eighty five.

762
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's bigger than that. He's like three h five

763
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,479
Speaker 2: three ten, but he can move. Obviously he's got football dna.

764
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 6: Uh.

765
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: Let's go Chris Jenkins out of Michigan.

766
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 2: I think of the picks that we have right there,

767
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: let's go with that because I'm setting up for fifty

768
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: nine because I think I know what I'm gonna do

769
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: there as well.

770
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: So, okay, fifty nine.

771
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 6: So the Texans take Jenkins the defensive tackle. The Browns

772
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 6: took Cedric Gray the linebacker. Okay, now you're on the

773
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 6: clock at fifty nine.

774
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 3: But got an op I got an offer, so I'm

775
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 3: looking for you.

776
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 6: Got two offers. Washington will give you sixty seven and

777
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 6: next year's second round pick in exchange fifty nine. Oh

778
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 6: that's a good one. I'm I'm tempted by that. But

779
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 6: I think you lose Roman Wilson. But there's a lot

780
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 6: of you know, there's a lot of picks in between.

781
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 2: Not stressing about the receivers, though, I'll be honest, I'm

782
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: not okay, what else?

783
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 6: And then I don't I'm not wild about this one.

784
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 6: It doesn't wow me. It's the Raiders fifty nine and

785
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 6: your seventh next year for pick seventy seven and next

786
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 6: year's Raiders third.

787
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: No, thanks, Let's do the Washington deal because they're they're

788
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 2: a number of receivers, if receivers the way that we

789
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: want to go. And you also start getting into the

790
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 2: running back realm once you get to sixty seven and

791
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 2: we get Washington second next year, thinking Washington is gonna

792
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: maybe struggle a little bit, so that second could be

793
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 2: in the you know, in the mid to mid to

794
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: the high forties. That's not a bad place to beat

795
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 2: up two second rounders. So let's make that deal.

796
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 5: And we did.

797
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 2: We made that deal. Who do we select? But pick

798
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: number sixty seven. It's gonna be a name, I promise

799
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: you you haven't heard of. And I love this.

800
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 5: Guy that's next on Texas All Access.

801
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 2: When we last left you, John Harrison Drew Dorty deciding

802
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 2: what to do at pick number sixty seven. Sorry I

803
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: can't do big broadcaster voice. I'm John Harrish, your host.

804
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 2: Welcome back to this show. But it is true. Drew

805
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: Dornian and I were doing a mock draft on our

806
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: End Lab podcast and we got to pick sixty seven.

807
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 5: I know you're going, wait a second, sixty seven. How

808
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 5: do we end up with sixty seven?

809
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 2: Well, Drew and I made a deal with the Washington

810
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: commanders and we ended up moving down to number sixty seven.

811
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 2: So now it's time to pick that player at sixty seven.

812
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: So what did we do with that pick? Well, it

813
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: might shock you. We went with a safety.

814
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 6: Okay, available now. Pennix Michael Hall junior a row Row McKinley, Jackson,

815
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 6: Roman Wilson, Jeremiah Trotter junior linebacker, DJ James. DJ James

816
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 6: a corner from Oudburn, YEP. Cedric van Pran, a center

817
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 6: out of Georgia, Kaylan Bullock safety from USC Cole Bishop

818
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 6: safety from Now. I like me some cold Bishop Jalen

819
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 6: McMillan receiver from Washington.

820
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: Like McMillan. Two.

821
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 6: Devontes Walker receiver from Newark, North Carolina.

822
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: Now.

823
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 3: Tes Walker is a guy that Tess.

824
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: Walker's very interesting to me because he's he's what would

825
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: happen if Nico and Tank married one another and the

826
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: result would be tes Walker. He's like six two six ' three,

827
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: so he's tall like Nico, but he's kind of got

828
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 2: a wiry life build like tank. At the Senior Bowl,

829
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: I was really excited to see tz and there were

830
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: a lot of times where he got opened it, like yes,

831
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: drop the pass. I think tes has got a ton

832
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: of upside now. He got kind of hosed by the

833
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: NCAA with a transfer. Tried to transfer back to North Carolina.

834
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 2: They shot it down. I'm like, really, the NCAA is

835
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: gonna get tough now. They finally got him after like

836
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 2: four or five games, so he's got to shake it

837
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 2: some of the rust off at the Senior Bowl sound

838
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 2: like somebody else we know, Nico Collins, so he wasn't

839
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 2: all together in a groove. I think tes Walker's got

840
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: some really serious upside. However, I have thought about the

841
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 2: room and Wilson will Fuller. Now he compares himself to Tyler.

842
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: He likes that comparison. I think it's will Fuller just

843
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 2: because the easy way he accelerates away from people.

844
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 6: I'd be cool Tyler Lockett too, though, man.

845
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: No, I would be too. I would be too.

846
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 2: And that's why I'm really I feel like the receiver's

847
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 2: your best value. However, you've named like three wide receivers

848
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: that I could I could go with. Yeah, and so

849
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: I need to start thinking about and we need to

850
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: start thinking about are there positions where there is a

851
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: low supply that we need to jump on the demand

852
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: right now? Okay, And that's that's where I would I

853
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 2: would look at. I would look at Cold Bishop. Now

854
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm gonna do it, but I would

855
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: look at Cold Bishop because I think he could do

856
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: a lot of things for you down on the Yes,

857
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: great football player.

858
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 3: I know a lot a lot of people watch you

859
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 3: ta football, Cold Bishop.

860
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 2: If I was doing this just me, I would give

861
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: a lot of consideration because my next pick is not.

862
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 6: Until like one twenty something.

863
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 3: Did I give up eighty six?

864
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's been, it's been in that movement.

865
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I thought it was.

866
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 2: So sixty seven is probably my last opportunity to get

867
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: a game breaking wide receiver. I really like Cold Bishop

868
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 2: at safety, and I also think there's probably a low

869
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: supply of safeties, and I do think there are a

870
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: lot of wide receivers.

871
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: Let's do it.

872
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 3: Let's let's go with Cold Bishop, the safety from Utah.

873
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 6: Okay, let's do a Bishops.

874
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 3: Who you're going with, Yeah, let's put him in that

875
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: mix of safety.

876
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:26,479
Speaker 6: Seven?

877
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: He can do a lot of different things. Okay, what's

878
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 3: our next pick?

879
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 6: Now you're going at one twenty three and available. First up,

880
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 6: First available is Makai Wingo, a defensive tackle from LSU.

881
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 2: Okay, shorter stout more just a pass rusher, kind of

882
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: don't know really what to play, all right.

883
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 6: Next, Cam Hart a Notre Dame corner.

884
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: Long, long, tall corner, not as fast, but uses his

885
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 2: length to kind of make up for He's definitely in

886
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 2: a mix for sure.

887
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 6: For me. We also have Marshaun Lloyd real fast falling

888
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 6: back from USC.

889
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: Thick Thick Thick went to both USCS, went to the

890
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: University of South Carolina and then went to USC. I

891
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: thought he actually played a little bit better at South Carolina,

892
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: but there were some moments at USC where you started

893
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 2: to kind of see what I think is the real him.

894
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: Definitely on the list.

895
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 6: Next, you got Theo Johnson tight end at Penn State.

896
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: Gotta consider him again, go back to supplying demand tight

897
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: ends is not a ton of them, and he is

898
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: a long.

899
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 3: Tall, athletic dude who can catch the football for sure.

900
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 6: Imani Bailey TCU running back, Tanner Tanner BORDERLINI center from

901
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 6: Wiscon I.

902
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: Had a good Senior Bowl.

903
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 3: I like him, has some guards center, but you got

904
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 3: plenty of those guys.

905
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 6: Son of the Goat, Brennan Rice. Jerry Rice is son

906
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 6: from USC really.

907
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 2: Intriguing prospect, and we have not gone wide receiver there, boy,

908
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 2: what are the two receiver prospects.

909
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 6: You got Brennan Rice right there? Uh huh uh. And

910
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 6: then he's not a receiver, but he's a dang big

911
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 6: tight end almost like six seven really two sixty out

912
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 6: of tea. See you, Jared Wiley.

913
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 3: I love Wiley. I really like Wyley.

914
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 2: I don't know why Wiley has not gotten a bunch

915
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: of acclaim that could change soon.

916
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: I love Wiley.

917
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: In fact, I would probably think about doing Wiley at

918
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 2: one twenty three.

919
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 3: Let's do it. Let's do it, Let's go TCU. Jared Wiley.

920
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 3: I like him.

921
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 2: He was at Texas, went to TCU. He made a

922
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: couple of really athletic catches a senior ball. I think

923
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: he is completely underrated. I and I think one twenty

924
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: three is about I probably haven't been just outside the

925
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: one hundred. But I like him as a player, and

926
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 2: I think he's got some ability to block.

927
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 3: He's not gonna kill anybody.

928
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: But he has the ability to get open and he

929
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: is big and strong after to catch.

930
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 3: Let's see Jared Wiley.

931
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 6: Now you're picking at one twenty seven again, l Omeya

932
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 6: tackle from Utah went, Marshawn Neeland, an edge from Western

933
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 6: Michigan went, and Cam Hart the corner went before. So

934
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 6: now you still got Wingo, Marshawn Lloyd, the running back,

935
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 6: Theo Johnson, a Money Bailey, Taylor Borlini, Brendan Rice, Tyler Davis,

936
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 6: a defensive tackle from Clinton, an Alabama receiver in Jermaine Burton,

937
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 6: and New I'm sure has a running back. Oh it's

938
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 6: not Chris, It's not John Perry. Nope, No, not the

939
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 6: workout man to the stars. I can't remember his name

940
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 6: right off the top of my head, but he was.

941
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 3: A great podcast listen Kelly not Ryan Day.

942
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, but his name is Bilula Lobby Lobby Keitan Oladapu

943
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 6: Oregon State.

944
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 3: Now I like Oldapu. But I already went and got

945
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 3: to say to you a cole Bishop.

946
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 6: George Jefferson's available. Oh the defensive different one. Now, he

947
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 6: had a really good senior Bowl. I did not expect

948
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 6: to see that from him at all. And he was

949
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 6: really really good. I would consider that. However, I want

950
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 6: to go lobby. Yeah, and here's my reasoning. Well, we

951
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 6: have to tell the twenty stories. So we go to

952
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 6: Senior Bowl. And at the Senior Bowl I had seen

953
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 6: him play against Central Michigan. And against Central Michigan. Un

954
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 6: H is a FES school, so they play level down.

955
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 6: So they go to Central Michigan. It's money game. It's

956
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 6: guaranteed money game. I don't know how much they end

957
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 6: up getting.

958
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 2: They traveled Central Michigan and this dude catches twelve passes

959
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 2: for two hundred and ninety five yards and he say,

960
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 2: what's his position, sayun running back. However, he gets his

961
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: twelve for two ninety five. And it's not just we're

962
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: throwing swing passes, throwing screens. They put him in the slot.

963
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: He ran slants, they threw him slot fades out of

964
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: the slot. I'm like, good board and this dude can run.

965
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: So we get to Senior Ball. I'm excited to see

966
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: him up close. This guy is a rick. He has

967
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: got nobody fat stud athlete and he's wearing number forty.

968
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: And so I wrote down on my notebook literally Austin

969
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:34,959
Speaker 2: Eckler meets Mike Alstock. So after practice, my buddy Lance

970
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,479
Speaker 2: Airline is talking to him, and so I just rolled

971
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: up and just kind of joined it in a conversation

972
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 2: and started talking to him about, you know, different things

973
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 2: he could do here. I told Lance, you know, hey,

974
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 2: Lance asked him, hey, could you play in the slot

975
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 2: like full time slot receiver, you know, do the you know,

976
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: do the Wes Welker thing, just going to slot and

977
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: that's it. Yes, absolutely, he said, I did it at

978
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 2: un H for a little bit. Yeah, I could absolutely

979
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: do it. So I said, well, I said, I came

980
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,479
Speaker 2: up with a hop for you, and uh, I said.

981
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 2: Austin Eckler meets Mike Alstott. He started burst out laughing,

982
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, I kind of thought it

983
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: was funny too.

984
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 3: It said.

985
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: He goes, no, no, no, no, he goes. My dad's favorite player.

986
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: And the reason I'm wearing forty today at the Senior

987
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: Bowl is because of Mike Alstott.

988
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 6: It's cool.

989
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, whoa, man, that's really cool. So that would

990
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 2: be my comp Austin Eckler meets Mike Alstatt and he

991
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: doesn't quite run like all stop, but he'll break tackles.

992
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: He's got quickness, he's got speed. I think he's gonna

993
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: probably run into four four range. So he's got long speed,

994
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 2: and he is a great receiver. I think that would

995
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: be a heck of a pick to add to the

996
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: running back room and different from anybody else that the

997
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 2: Texans have had. So want slot receiver plus running back

998
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 2: and all of it together. And a great great kid,

999
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 2: great kid, Dyl Lobby, new ne Haampshire.

1000
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: Do it, let's go.

1001
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 6: He's the pick at one, two seven. Now you gotta

1002
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 6: wait going through the fifth round, Okay, going through the

1003
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 6: sixth round. We've made some trades Texans have and you're

1004
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 6: getting to the seventh round, seventh round. Okay, the picks

1005
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 6: that are left in the seventh round, you've got first up, two, two, one.

1006
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 6: Now there's some stuff available, some guys available. Blake Watson,

1007
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 6: a Memphis running back, is the highest rated. He's the

1008
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 6: one hundred and eighty fourth ranked prospect on their board.

1009
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 6: The two hundredth ranked prospect is another big tight end,

1010
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 6: Revin span Ford at Minnesota. We say big. He's six

1011
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 6: seven to seventy. That's big.

1012
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he's two seventy. No, just seeing

1013
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: him up close, I don't think he's two seventy. I

1014
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: thought he'd be a little bit better blocker than he is.

1015
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 2: Decent receiver, but I'll pass on both of those.

1016
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 6: What we got next a J Barner tight end out

1017
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 6: of Michigan, Charles Turner, a center from LSU.

1018
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 2: You could stop right there for a second. Oh yeah,

1019
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 2: not gonna Charles Turner at the senior. But I thought

1020
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: it was really really good. I thought this year for LSU.

1021
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: I thought he was good just watching him, but I

1022
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 2: was like, okay, it's gotwn senior. Well, he has some

1023
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: really good one on one reps. He got a lot

1024
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: of kudos from the coaches. And again, at some point,

1025
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: offensive line's gotta take on somebody. We've got a lot

1026
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: of interior candidates, but it never hurts, especially in the

1027
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: seventh round. So let's hold on to Charles Turner's name

1028
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 2: for a second. Okay, let's just hold on a name.

1029
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 3: What else we got?

1030
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 6: You have running back Carson Steele.

1031
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 3: From CCLA transfer Ball State.

1032
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 6: Omar Spates from LSU. He's a linebacker and I like Spates.

1033
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 2: I like Spates. He transferred Morgan State didn't have quite

1034
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: the year at LSU. But Dick could run, could hit.

1035
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 6: Next Western Kentucky's quarterback Austin Reid safety out of Washington,

1036
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 6: Dominique Campton as a box Slayer safety from Lubbock, Texas

1037
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 6: Tech Dadrian Taylor Demerson.

1038
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 3: Now we already want with Cole Bishop.

1039
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, if I have to choose between.

1040
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 2: Taylor Demerson or Charles Turner, I'm probably gonna go Turner

1041
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: because I just feel like having that that growth from

1042
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: a young player. Let's go Turner from LSU. Taylor Demison

1043
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: had one heck of a shrine ball, great career. Watching

1044
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 2: him a couple of times, studying a couple of times.

1045
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 2: Actually last week was actually watching him and studying him

1046
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 2: and thought, Okay, there's something definitely here. I think seventh

1047
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 2: round for him would be a great, great move for

1048
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 2: the Texans. I think he probably gets into the sixth,

1049
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 2: maybe ekes his way into the fifth, especially what he

1050
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: did at Trianble. But he's got a run well and

1051
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 2: that'll really kind of get people's attention.

1052
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 3: I'm not totally sure that he does that, but Turner

1053
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 3: is a center.

1054
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 1: Let's do it.

1055
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's do it.

1056
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 3: But that was fun.

1057
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: We'll do that again on our end the Lab Podcast.

1058
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: Appreciate you being here, Appreciate Mark and Drew for joining me.

1059
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 5: Oh, you guys were listening. We'll see tomorrow and as always,

1060
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 5: go Texans.