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Speaker 2: So, the first thing Carry Rhodes told me since we

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Speaker 2: found out Mike Tomlin was stepping down after nineteen seasons,

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Speaker 2: wasn't It wasn't what a great coach. It wasn't so

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Speaker 2: tough to play against, wasn't. Can you believe this?

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Speaker 3: It was?

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Speaker 2: I told you so. Carry Rhodes is on a heater.

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Speaker 2: It's why he's taking victory laps around this studio. Welcome in,

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Speaker 2: it is Fox Sports Radio. You didn't think Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 2: would be back. I asked you this, I asked you this.

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Speaker 2: But last week it was Aaron Rodgers, Mike Tomlin, John Harbaugh,

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Speaker 2: and you didn't think Tomlin would be back? And what

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Speaker 2: do you know, Mike Tomlin's stepping down today. It's the

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Speaker 2: breaking news in the NFL after nineteen seasons as head

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Speaker 2: coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers, first of all, two out

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Speaker 2: of three so far. We still got to wait for

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Speaker 2: the other announcement for the cycle. But that kind of

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Speaker 2: leads into this one right with Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, it does.

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Speaker 2: It really does.

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Speaker 4: It's one of those things where, I mean, all three

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Speaker 4: of those guys have been great for the league, and

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Speaker 4: they've had their time, and we know that that game

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Speaker 4: and all sports, it's a young man's game. And you know,

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Speaker 4: once you get all these young guys in, you get

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Speaker 4: these new attitudes, you get these new generations of people

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Speaker 4: that are coming coming to your work, so to speak.

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Speaker 4: And you've been working there for a long time, You've

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Speaker 4: been a valued employee for years and years, but you're

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Speaker 4: always trying to look and check and see if the

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Speaker 4: younger person has a higher output, a higher degree of intensity,

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Speaker 4: a higher degree of want to and all those things

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Speaker 4: matter when you get older. I was sitting on my

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Speaker 4: couch last night watching that game and Mike Tomlin looked

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Speaker 4: like he was done, like he was fighting to win

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Speaker 4: the game. But it was almost like, all right, this

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Speaker 4: thing is over. You can kind of feel that energy.

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Speaker 4: And then when you look at Aaron Rodgers and I

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Speaker 4: know we're gonna talk about him later, Like when you

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Speaker 4: look at all of that happening last night, I was

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Speaker 4: on my couch and you know, I'm Aaron Rodgers came

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Speaker 4: in the same year in the draft, and I couldn't

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Speaker 4: think of anything worse to do than be out in

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Speaker 4: And so the look on his face it looked like

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Speaker 4: it was over as well. And so yeah, that's what

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Speaker 2: Without a realistic chance at a championship, out there being

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Speaker 2: hit like if they thought they were. If Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: thought that the Steelers were going anywhere, maybe a different feeling,

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Speaker 2: right that you're still playing for something. But I don't

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Speaker 2: think any of us had any thoughts that the Steelers

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Speaker 3: Throughout the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: It's why actually thought that the regular season for someone

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Speaker 2: like Rogers was important, because it felt like he was

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Speaker 2: enjoying himself. And I'm wondering at what point did Mike

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Speaker 2: Tomlin say to himself, yeah, this is probably it. And

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Speaker 2: I know that Aaron Rodgers made some headlines when he

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Speaker 2: was asked about Tomlin last night. I have a feeling

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Speaker 2: I would not be surprised if Rogers knew that Tomlin

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Speaker 2: I just wonder at what point did Tomlin say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is enough. Was it because his team wasn't being competitive?

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Speaker 2: Is it just wanting to do something different in your

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Speaker 2: about Tommy's fifty three years old, like he's been there

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Speaker 2: for nineteen years. We think, like I asked, sorry to

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Speaker 2: put you on blast, Jason Stewart, but I said, how

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Speaker 2: old do you think Mike Tomlin is? And what did

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Speaker 2: So to do something different, I can understand why it

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Speaker 2: I think it probably hurt to hear the fire Mike

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Speaker 2: Tomlin chance to hear all of that stuff. Now, he's

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin. Even though there was a narrative last night

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Speaker 2: it wasn't Mike Tomlin's fault when you look at what

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Speaker 2: the Steelers had on the field, that that's not a

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Speaker 2: just looked it up. He's tied with Chuck Knowle for

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Speaker 3: For Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Steady Eddie doesn't win the race anymore. And in

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Speaker 4: the an hour world at this moment, it's all about Clinton.

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Speaker 4: It's about Flash, it's about winning, it's about winning championships.

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Speaker 4: It's not even about winning. It's just about winning championships.

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Speaker 4: And I think we put so much Infhansis on that, right,

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Speaker 4: Like if you think about those old days, you think

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Speaker 4: He won four, and so now he's tied. Mike Tomlin's

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Speaker 4: more just because of the culture and winning championships, which

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying he shouldn't know what I'm saying right now,

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Speaker 4: this guy has the same amount of wins, and winning.

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Speaker 3: The playoffs is hard.

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Speaker 4: And you think about the competition, you think about who

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Speaker 4: It was Tom Brady, it was guys who are Hall

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Speaker 4: So you know when you try to equate it to

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Speaker 4: for him, I would see why he would be ready

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Speaker 2: When do you think it hit him? When do you

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Speaker 2: think it hit him that this is done? Because he

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Speaker 2: But is there a point in the Steelers season? Is

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Speaker 2: way that you think Tomlin could have been last night?

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Speaker 3: Could it have been? When do you think it happened?

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Speaker 4: I think was coming into this year, Okay, Like I

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Speaker 3: So if this is my last ride.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to go out swinging with the best possible

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Speaker 4: we never heard about Pittsburgh having any alternate plans at

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Speaker 4: all right, let's take this one last ride together and

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Speaker 2: If not, you know, we both try. And that's what

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Speaker 2: it feels like. You know that that would be worth

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Speaker 2: the point of what we've had with Tomlin. I just

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Speaker 2: it's been a decade. And the over five hundred record

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Speaker 2: even I would even I would even venture to say carry.

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Speaker 2: When they lost to Cleveland in twenty twenty, it was

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Speaker 2: everything that we see with Mike Tomlin, and we look

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Speaker 2: all understand while there are marks. It's why we talked

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Speaker 2: bit of Ben Roethlisberger's ten year So when Roethlisberger injures

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, now the Steelers are just

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Speaker 2: won them two super Bowls, Like those are the things

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Speaker 2: that felt like the Steelers have already done that with

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Speaker 2: Tomlin to this point, but once you hear the fire

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Speaker 2: they're third straight ten and seven mark there technically wouldn't

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Speaker 2: to a couple of other longtime tenured coaches like the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Obviously made their decision, but I don't know how much

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Speaker 6: When you when you don't get it done, words are cheap.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you I think that that's some of

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Speaker 7: After much thought and reflection, I've decided to step down

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Speaker 2: As Moncey was reading that, we got a tweet from

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Speaker 2: It's either be fired or step down. Y'all are making

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Speaker 2: this front office in this organization has made a decision

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Speaker 3: I agree with that.

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Speaker 4: And the crazy part about it is he's leaving this

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Speaker 4: put that on the post. It somewhere. But this team

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Speaker 2: it comes to the Baltimore Ravens. Thanks Manzi, Thanks Jason.

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Speaker 2: we have the huge breaking news story that Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 2: I want to welcome you in, but I'm curious. Did

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Speaker 2: you hear how the Baltimore Ravens found out about Mike

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Speaker 2: We're gonna play it here. This is I believe Mike

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Speaker 8: Mike Tomlin stepped down at Pittsburgh?

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Speaker 3: He did?

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Speaker 8: Is it official?

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Speaker 8: Only if John takes the Pittsburgh job.

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Speaker 8: Well, actually it's been two years. To be honest with you,

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Speaker 8: It's why Dan the previous two years he was asked

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Speaker 2: I think that we're finally done. Adam Kaplan's Sports Grid

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Speaker 2: inside the Birds podcast, Get him on next at Kaplan NFL.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Rodgers. Does it just make Aaron Rodgers decision

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Speaker 8: Toman ends his Pittsburgh tenure not winning a playoff game

437
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Speaker 8: over nine seasons, which is hard to believe, by the way,

438
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Speaker 8: but they've never fired a head coaches. I know a

439
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Speaker 8: lot of the fans won Tomlin out, but Mike, Mike

440
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Speaker 8: decided to walk away. I'd love to know what the

441
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Speaker 8: reasons were. I mean, I know when Sean Payton did it.

442
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Speaker 8: Why did he needed he needed a mental break, he

443
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Speaker 8: wanted a year off, and he wanted to come back.

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Speaker 8: That was obvious.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 8: And then you know the other one, by the way,

447
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Speaker 8: Dan such I was thought of this exactly as soon

448
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Speaker 8: as it happened, and whether Tom will come back and

449
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Speaker 8: coach again, so I remember it was I'm not just

450
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Speaker 8: the only one to put it out there that the

451
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Speaker 8: Panthers had sincere interest in hiring Bill Kaher that this

452
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Speaker 8: is many years ago. It might have been when they

453
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Speaker 8: hired Ron Rivera, I don't remember. Might have been twenty

454
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Speaker 8: eleven when they hired Ron Rivera. I don't remember, but

455
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Speaker 8: I just remember, like you know, because Bill had his

456
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Speaker 8: house in Charlotte or he lived there or still lives there,

457
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Speaker 8: and we thought this is a slam dug and a

458
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Speaker 8: lot of a lot of his coaches told me this

459
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Speaker 8: and that, Oh yeah, if it happens, he's got he's

460
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Speaker 8: going to take that job, so you know, be around

461
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Speaker 8: the family and all that. But it's not not to

462
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Speaker 8: but yeah, it's uh, Dan, it's been pretty interesting to

463
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Speaker 8: see kind of how this has gone down here and

464
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Speaker 8: who fills these these jobs here in the Steelers one

465
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Speaker 8: obviously because it this is kind of historic.

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Speaker 3: And Adam I talked about it. That's that's I want.

467
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Speaker 3: It's a two part question.

468
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Speaker 4: The first part of it is just the clarity surrounding

469
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Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin. Right, so he steps down and people automatically

470
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Speaker 4: think he can go coach somewhere else, but he's on

471
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Speaker 4: the contract with Pittsburgh, so we have to.

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Speaker 8: Trade for him, they would have to say, and I

473
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Speaker 8: don't I got the carry, I got the distinct feeling

474
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Speaker 8: from people I've spoken with that I know Mike is.

475
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Speaker 8: We don't know he'll ever talk.

476
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Speaker 3: You know.

477
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Speaker 8: If I know that, you know, there'll be networks interested

478
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Speaker 8: in him. I'd love to hear him talk about why

479
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Speaker 8: he walked away Sean. Sean Payton never really gave the

480
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Speaker 8: the you know, there was speculation, which I think was real,

481
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Speaker 8: that he knew he couldn't win with a quarterback situation

482
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Speaker 8: in New Orleans as it stood then mm hmm, that

483
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Speaker 8: that was one reason why, or you know, he needed

484
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Speaker 8: a mental break, which is perfectly understandable. But with Tomlin,

485
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Speaker 8: I'm very curious about what his mindset was, why now not?

486
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Speaker 8: Look here's here's what another thing I thought of, What

487
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Speaker 8: if they would have made a run to the championship

488
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Speaker 8: game I've lost and he have unfinished unfinished business, would

489
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Speaker 8: have come back, you know.

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Speaker 2: Would have to have known that well, we knew they

491
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Speaker 2: weren't even close to that, so I never had to

492
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Speaker 2: at least face that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly right.

494
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Speaker 2: I mean, Adam Kaplan joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.

495
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Speaker 2: You talked about Bill Kauer and the Panthers job and

496
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Speaker 2: that flirting sort of deal. What I find interesting is

497
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Speaker 2: we talked about parallels is in Carrie.

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Speaker 8: Well, he denied that. He actually kind of denied that, Yeah,

499
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Speaker 8: it was just the Panther. There are people with the

500
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Speaker 8: Panthers who wanted it to happen.

501
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Speaker 2: But anyway, yeah, I know there's uh, there's gonna be

502
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Speaker 2: some breaking news in your backyard as well. I just

503
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Speaker 2: quick one on the on the Steelers. Brian Flores is

504
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Speaker 2: a name. Tomlin when he was hired by the Steelers

505
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Speaker 2: was an assistant with Minnesota. When he was brought over,

506
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Speaker 2: his Flora's a top candidate in Pittsburgh.

507
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Speaker 8: I would expect them to have sincere interest because you know,

508
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Speaker 8: he's he's been there before, he knows, he knows the building.

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Speaker 8: And let me tell you something, This is one thing

510
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Speaker 8: I actually forgot. I wanted to make sure I talked

511
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Speaker 8: about before we got out of here. If you want

512
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Speaker 8: to be the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers, it

513
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Speaker 8: starts with a running game. If you're a guy that

514
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Speaker 8: if your guy, like if you're Cliff Kingsbury, I'd be

515
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Speaker 8: shocked if he would he would want to. I just

516
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Speaker 8: don't see them being interesting in a guy like that.

517
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Speaker 8: It's just him and Dan Quinn totally that the firing

518
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Speaker 8: last week was totally from dan Quinn, had nothing to

519
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Speaker 8: do with anyone else, for nobody, dan Quinn and Cliff

520
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Speaker 8: Kingsbury the Nazi. I and Cliff did a very good job,

521
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Speaker 8: by the way. But you have to want to run

522
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Speaker 8: the football in Pittsburgh. That's every coach I've ever spoke with.

523
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Speaker 8: Her front office member says they may not agree on everything,

524
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Speaker 8: but they totally agree. It's start to the run and

525
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Speaker 8: and and you win. You run the ball and you win.

526
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Speaker 8: With defense of Pittsburgh, you could you could not agree

527
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Speaker 8: with it. But that's the truth.

528
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Speaker 2: We told you, Adam, that something's going on in your backyard.

529
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Speaker 2: Breaking news, Moncey Blagos quickly at the news desk. What

530
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Speaker 2: you got, Manci, Breaking news from Fox Sports, multiple sources.

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Speaker 7: The Eagles have informed offensive coordinator Kevin Patulo that they're

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Speaker 7: making a change at the position.

533
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Speaker 8: They just announced it actually did all right, Oh wow,

534
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Speaker 8: look at that.

535
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Speaker 3: We knew something was going to happen there for sure.

536
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Speaker 8: Statement you want the statement, Yes, a statement from Nick Sirianni.

537
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Speaker 8: I've decided to make a change at offensive coordinator. The

538
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Speaker 8: rest of the quote. I met with Kevin today discussed

539
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Speaker 8: a difficult decision as he is a great coach, who

540
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Speaker 8: is who has my utmost respect. He's been integral to

541
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Speaker 8: the team's success over the last five years, not only

542
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Speaker 8: to the on field product, but behind the scenes is

543
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Speaker 8: a valuant leader for the players in an organization. I've

544
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Speaker 8: no doubt he will continue to have a successful coaching career. Ultimately,

545
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Speaker 8: when we fall suit of our goals, that responsibly lots

546
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Speaker 8: of my shoulders. Yeah, so basically, so you know here

547
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Speaker 8: in this particular one, Sirianni, one of his best friends

548
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Speaker 8: is Kevin Botouolo. He brought him over from Indy with him.

549
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Speaker 8: He was actually on his flight when Nick had his

550
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Speaker 8: first visit after he became the head coach. Batula was

551
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Speaker 8: on his flight. That's how close they were. So I'm

552
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Speaker 8: sure it was hard for him. But this is the

553
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Speaker 8: problem carrying this with this particular team is in this

554
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Speaker 8: offensive situation is that it's it's Nick Sirianni's scheme that

555
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Speaker 8: now he's fired two out of the last three coordinators

556
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Speaker 8: that he's had, and it's his scheme that they have

557
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Speaker 8: to coach really bad coaching. Yeah, it is, yeah, not good.

558
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Speaker 3: I didn't know that Adam. So it's actually it's deal scheme. Yep, yep.

559
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Speaker 8: And by the way, with Mike Tomlin, uh, you know

560
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Speaker 8: they've run his scheme. Terry Lawson has run it. Yeah,

561
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Speaker 8: and it came on a tremendous fire. Their secondary head

562
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Speaker 8: also which I'm told communication problems. See, this is the guys,

563
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Speaker 8: This is the untold situation of why teams fail is

564
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Speaker 8: when coach head coaches force their assistants to run their

565
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Speaker 8: scheme and when it's not working. What's what it's not

566
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Speaker 8: the defense quarter scheme or in this case, the offensive

567
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Speaker 8: coordinator scheme. What can he do? So what Philly's got

568
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Speaker 8: to do is they got to junk this scheme. Everyone

569
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Speaker 8: I've talked to is greater. Their tape tells me to

570
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Speaker 8: bad offensive scheme, one of the worst they've seen. What

571
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Speaker 8: Nick has got to give is a new coordinator autonomy,

572
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Speaker 8: not worry about Jalen Hurts having his eleventh offensive coordinator

573
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Speaker 8: and his playing career at I know.

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Speaker 3: So we're Stikeen and Kellen Moore doing some of their

575
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Speaker 3: own things. Why did it? Why did it work?

576
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Speaker 6: With it?

577
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Speaker 8: So what happened was with Stike and dan Is Steichen

578
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Speaker 8: severely lowered what they asked Jalen Hurts to do in

579
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Speaker 8: twenty two. And remember they had never there was no

580
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Speaker 8: one able to prepare for the A. J. Brown situation

581
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Speaker 8: because Brown just and traded there if it came a

582
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Speaker 8: downfield passing offense with it started kind of with a

583
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Speaker 8: run though, and it was a deep passing game. They

584
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Speaker 8: figured it out, and their past games significantly regress since

585
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Speaker 8: twenty two.

586
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were taking it was based on a run

587
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Speaker 4: game and taking those deep shots. But he can never

588
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Speaker 4: make those layered those layered.

589
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Speaker 3: Thrower, you know, not at all. Let's talk about the

590
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Speaker 3: final four right now.

591
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Speaker 4: We got in the final four in both divisions, and

592
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Speaker 4: obviously a lot of intriguing games. The one that I'm

593
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Speaker 4: looking at right now obviously, well there's two. I'm really

594
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Speaker 4: invested in that forty nine Ers Seahawk game. I know

595
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Speaker 4: forty nine Ers are banged up Seahawks.

596
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Speaker 8: In this game. I know, I just can't. I mean,

597
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Speaker 8: they should get blown out. Go ahead, Adam, ahead, Dan Syhawks, listen.

598
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Speaker 8: I don't know how I mean great now, now, you know,

599
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Speaker 8: Carrie's a form of player. Great coaches sometimes get overcomes.

600
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Speaker 3: One hundred in the playoffs, for sure, But you.

601
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Speaker 8: Take Kittle out of there, Okay, who's gonna go to

602
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Speaker 8: the Hall of Fame. And I give Trent Williams credit

603
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Speaker 8: for playing that game, but I mean it keeps skeeping

604
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Speaker 8: guys hoping. I understand that this defense, no offense, Seattle's

605
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 8: defense is better than the Eagles.

606
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Speaker 3: You had to see Dan's face, Adam.

607
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Speaker 8: I mean, I'm just telling I and I rarely predicted blowout.

608
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Speaker 8: I mean, you remember what happened in two weeks ago

609
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Speaker 8: in Saint Clara. Yeah, they scored three points the Niners.

610
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Speaker 2: I also remember what happened in week one, and I said, like,

611
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Speaker 2: the only thing not having George Kittle would be like

612
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Speaker 2: having George Kittle and losing him in a game, which

613
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Speaker 2: is what happened in Week one in Seattle. In the

614
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Speaker 2: game as the forty nine Ers ended up winning, I

615
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 2: was surprised to see it.

616
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Speaker 3: Was six starters. Since yeah, yeah, true.

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Speaker 2: True, but still division game. I think you ever know, Yeah,

618
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Speaker 2: and Adam moment, I'm sorry that, Adam. The one more

619
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Speaker 2: thing the that that Rams and Bears game. I knew obviously,

620
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Speaker 2: you know. I'm a I'm a Ram guy.

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Speaker 4: I've been an advocate of advocate of them, but playing

622
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Speaker 4: that game on a Sunday night in Chicago. It's gonna

623
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Speaker 4: be tough. It's gonna the weather's going to be an issue.

624
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 4: I'm I'm excited to see that game too. Obviously, the

625
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 4: Bears have picked up some steam here and and you

626
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 4: know when they trail they play their best. But it's

627
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 4: gonna be a hard, hard game for the Bears. But

628
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 4: also things is gonna be hard game for the Rams

629
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Speaker 4: with that weather situation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Now it's going to be incredibly cold, yes, and remember

632
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 8: this game is being played at night. Yes, and the

633
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 8: weather right now should be it might actually get to

634
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Speaker 8: single digits.

635
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Speaker 3: Yep.

636
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Speaker 8: Now we'll see what the win is like. Matthew Stafford

637
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 8: is not Remember he's playing a lot of his games

638
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 8: indoors because being with the Lions and other Rams in

639
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 8: terms of being home and so forth, it won't be easy.

640
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Speaker 8: But the Rams are shown they could win the road Warriors.

641
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Speaker 8: That that was as a good game that they had

642
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Speaker 8: last week. They were able to close well after blowing

643
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Speaker 8: the lead. But the bigger question for Chicago is why

644
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 8: were they so bad for three quarters? And can can

645
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Speaker 8: they not get behind? Because the Rams are explosive and

646
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Speaker 8: I'll tell you the Bears secondary they get it's bad.

647
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Speaker 8: I mean, it's really interesting. They forced the most turnovers,

648
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Speaker 8: but they're a top five team giving up explosive plays.

649
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Speaker 8: It's very odd to me. I don't quite care carry out.

650
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Speaker 8: You talked about it yesterday. What the players need to do. Yeah,

651
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Speaker 8: the Bears.

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Speaker 4: They come out and they script plays, and they script

653
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Speaker 4: plays for not not much success with the Ben Johnson team.

654
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Speaker 4: Like if you look at their opening drives, I think

655
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Speaker 4: in the last I think their last nine opening drives

656
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 4: they've had, they've they've gone through and out, so they

657
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 4: haven't been successful script in plays. I think for them

658
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 4: to have success early on and not put themselves behind

659
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 4: the eight ball, it's to come out and do a

660
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 4: little up tempo early. Caleb Williams plays well off schedule,

661
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 4: and he plays well when defenses have to show their hand,

662
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Speaker 4: and I think that will give them a little bit

663
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Speaker 4: of an advantage. That was just kind of part of

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Speaker 4: my thinking when I looked at them and why they

665
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Speaker 4: why they struggled, Yeah, and they.

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Speaker 8: I would say, yeah, they couldn't get kill them into

667
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Speaker 8: rhythm and they look so bad offensively for three quarters.

668
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Speaker 8: It was just stunning to me that they win up

669
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Speaker 8: scoring twenty five points. I yeah, it's sot to pick

670
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Speaker 8: the Packers.

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00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 3: I felt.

672
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Speaker 8: I was like, man, I thought I had that one.

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Speaker 3: I didn't.

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Speaker 8: I didn't. I didn't pick well in Week one all.

675
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 8: I'm usually really good in the playoffs. I had a

676
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Speaker 8: very bad Week one except for the totals. Actually was

677
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 8: three one in total picks. But it's over runner for

678
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 8: people don't know, but terrible. I only got one of

679
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Speaker 8: the sides, right, Oh well, m hm.

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Speaker 3: Last one before we let you go.

681
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Speaker 2: And it is about coaching, and it is about actually

682
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Speaker 2: a guy that we started to talk about, not Mike Tomlin,

683
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: but when Steve Bashatti mentioned John Harbaugh and the possible

684
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Speaker 2: flip they could do. Harbaugh did interview with the Falcons.

685
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Speaker 2: He told Jay Glazer there were going to be three

686
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Speaker 2: or four teams. Yeah, obviously Atlanta is one of those

687
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Speaker 2: three or four. Are we looking at what giants as

688
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Speaker 2: another Miami?

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Speaker 8: Where for sure the Miami one. I was joking with

690
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Speaker 8: so on other than whether why would you take that interview?

691
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Speaker 8: It's see Johnson is John john is older? You know,

692
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Speaker 8: he's in his sixties. Why would you interview with a

693
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Speaker 8: team where you really it's it's a rebuild. They have

694
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 8: a very bad roster. That's the way that that team

695
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Speaker 8: see it. That I've talked to about the Dolphins roster

696
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Speaker 8: and in situation, Steph were the only thing we'll say

697
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Speaker 8: good Steve Ross is in terms of football is willing

698
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Speaker 8: to spend money. You love that about him. He just

699
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 8: they didn't want a playoff game. And I stick around

700
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 8: twenty five years and there's a reason for it. He

701
00:30:54,280 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 8: made a lot of mistakes. But to me, the honestly

702
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 8: the Atlanta job is that they actually have a good roster.

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Speaker 8: And oh, I needn't mention this before we get out

704
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 8: of here. Matt Ryan actually clarify he actually don't want

705
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 8: to see he was trying to contract with out what

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Speaker 8: what Arthur Blank said, But he actually said that he's

707
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Speaker 8: gonna let the general manager make the decisions, which is

708
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Speaker 8: not what Arthur Blank said last week. So that's actually

709
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 8: good that because that'll help the Falcons rebuild. This thing

710
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 8: is that, you know, because Arthur Blank said Matt would

711
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 8: have control of the roster and everyone would report to him,

712
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 8: well their report to him, but Matt's not can make

713
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Speaker 8: the football decisions. I thought that was really interesting and

714
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 8: Matt's in his press conference today, so that that's one

715
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Speaker 8: little care clarification.

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Speaker 2: And maybe Matt Ryan's behind the new uniforms that they're

717
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: going to get an April out of the Yeah, we

718
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Speaker 2: appreciate the time is always on a bus day.

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Speaker 3: Get him up by Kaplan the NFL.

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Speaker 2: After nineteen years, Mike Tomlin stepping down as head coach

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Speaker 2: of the Pittsburgh Steelers. It's the breaking news here on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. He's carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer. The

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Speaker 2: question is can Mike Tomlin take Lynn Jones from the

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Speaker 2: headlines that we've had over the past forty eight hours.

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Speaker 2: That is the question. But first Carry Roads hanging out

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Speaker 9: Rogers tapping his gut, takes the snap, Rogers pocket Collapseick Rogers,

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Speaker 9: It's gonna go down and the ball is out. Who's

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Speaker 8: He's on the move.

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Speaker 9: Thirty twenty five, twenty fifteen ten five touchdown Sheldon Racins Rockin' rolls.

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Speaker 2: The first of two defensive touchdowns on the night for

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Speaker 2: the Texans on the Texans Radio Network. They eliminate the

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Speaker 2: Steelers thirty to six. You know we're s olden rankings

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Speaker 2: with the school Dan. I know, ooh, there you go, man.

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Speaker 2: It's the Mike Tommins story. Is the big news of

747
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Speaker 2: the day, the big news of the last forty eight hours.

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Speaker 2: I still think it's Lynn Jones. Jason Stewart. Wouldn't you

749
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Speaker 2: say the conversation about the Jacksonville Reporter for what's the

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Speaker 2: dialogue that.

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Speaker 3: Has gone on with miss Jones?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because you had all the bitter people right away

753
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Speaker 5: who thought they were on the right side of history

754
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Speaker 5: taking shots at her. Then you had the wave of

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Speaker 5: negativity against those bitter people, and now you have the

756
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Speaker 5: bitter people trying to explain themselves what they actually meant,

757
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 5: because in some weird universe this became if you were

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Speaker 5: against Lynn Jones, you're against black published newspapers. Like I

759
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 5: know that sounds like a stretch, but it's like what

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Speaker 5: the political climate we have on. So yeah, it's had

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Speaker 5: many layers.

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Speaker 2: I felt like ninety nine percent of the people were

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Speaker 2: cool with it, except the one percent of journalists who

764
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: felt like they were they were holier than thou. Let's

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Speaker 2: hear what Lynn Jones, if you need the refresher. If

766
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Speaker 2: you haven't, maybe you've been traveling. The controversial question which

767
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: wasn't a question but statement that you made to Liam

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Speaker 2: Cohen after the Jaguars loss on Sunday, here it is

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Speaker 2: two you.

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Speaker 10: Congratulations on your success, young man. You hold your head up,

771
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 10: all right. You guys have had a most magnificent season.

772
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 10: He did a great job out there today. So you

773
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Speaker 10: just hold your head up, okay, ladies and gentlemen, duvo

774
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Speaker 10: you don't want all right, keep it going. We got

775
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 10: another season, okay. I appreciate take care of much continued

776
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 10: success to you and the entire team.

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Speaker 8: Thank you man.

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Speaker 2: It's very very nice of Liam Cohing and in the

779
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Speaker 2: last forty eight hours, Monsei, you were the one that

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Speaker 2: gave Carry and I the heads up on this on Sundays.

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Speaker 5: I didn't know it was going to turn into that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, right when I played it, I was like, isn't

783
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Speaker 7: this just sweet? Had no idea it was going to

784
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Speaker 7: be three hours later what it was.

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Speaker 2: You are part of the ninety nine percent that I

786
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Speaker 2: think thought that it was fine and whatever I did.

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Speaker 7: I just these people that are mad. It's like, just

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Speaker 7: be because she did it doesn't mean you get to

789
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Speaker 7: do it. And I think that's the problem with people.

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Speaker 7: Life is unfair. It's okay that she did it, it

791
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Speaker 7: really is.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't mean you can do it. Don't worry. Doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: I can do it.

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Speaker 7: I've never felt like I could do that in a

795
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Speaker 7: position she did, and I feel like that's there's it's

796
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Speaker 7: like an outlier. But people are like, you're not supposed

797
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Speaker 7: You're not supposed to do she did, and it's fine,

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Speaker 7: doesn't mean you can.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think you should lose sleepover.

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Speaker 2: That was my thing, Like when we were talking about

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Speaker 2: it on Sunday said I thought it was a little

802
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Speaker 2: odd that it was the second question early on r yes,

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Speaker 2: and that's then to follow up to go back into

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Speaker 2: why you didn't kick the field goal.

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Speaker 4: Or Carrie Kerry you want to you want to ask

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Speaker 4: the question? Now, Yeah, I have to follow that. Yeah, No, Dan,

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Speaker 4: You're one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 3: Damn.

809
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 2: They tell us in radio that you're never going to

810
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: please anyone. And I feel like we've all kind of

811
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 2: supported Lynn Jones in this, but it was the one

812
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: percent that we're against Lynn Jones. So today on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, we are going to support the one percent

814
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Speaker 2: and the people that had a problem with Lynn Jones. Uh,

815
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Speaker 2: this is this is for you. This is Lynn Jones

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Speaker 2: of the Jacksonville Free Press answered.

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Speaker 3: To tell you.

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Speaker 10: Man, all right, you guys, job you just okay, ladies

819
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Speaker 10: and gentlemen, all right, okay, much continued success to you

820
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 10: and the entire team.

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Speaker 2: There is there is You don't have to hear any

822
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Speaker 2: of Lynn Jones awful. There's a special place in hell

823
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Speaker 2: for you. I want you to know that it's our

824
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: version of unnecessary censorship.

825
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 3: Just like.

826
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Speaker 2: Right, it sounds like she is taking into the woodshed.

827
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Speaker 2: Listen to this again. If you were to censor Lynne Jones,

828
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Speaker 2: tell you all.

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Speaker 10: Right, you guys, you did a job out there today.

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Speaker 10: So you just okay, ladies and gentlemen, all right, okay,

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Speaker 10: much continued success to you, the entire team.

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00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 8: Thank you.

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00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 3: Man. There you're happy, Yeah, yeah, happy. Now there you go.

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Speaker 2: We we got Lynn Jones, you know we She didn't

835
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Speaker 2: say what you didn't want her to say.

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Speaker 4: There it is, that is saying so the most magnificent

837
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Speaker 4: sound bite I've ever heard. Now I have to agree.

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00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 4: And Liam Cohen being so graceous and taking at it. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's perfect. I think there's a part where she's like,

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00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 4: let me tell you something and then it was.

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Speaker 2: By the way, great job to Bo Benson, executive producer

842
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: in the back editor, thanks to him. Thanks to Jason

843
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: and Ryan for putting that all together. Great stuff.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, Lann Jones, we love you. It was it

845
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 4: was beautiful. It was a beautiful thing to say.

846
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 2: And the Lynn Jones hype just continues. That train is

847
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 2: not going to stop. The Mike Tomlin train did stop

848
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Speaker 2: after nineteen seasons in Pittsburgh. He's Carrie Rhodes, I'm Dan Byer.

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Speaker 2: What's next for the former coach. We'll tell you here

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Speaker 2: on Fox