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Speaker 1: Wow, everybody, It's Tuesday, January twentieth, twenty twenty six. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we're available for

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Speaker 1: coaching interviews. It's being Your Man MG Marcus Grant joined

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Speaker 1: by Michael Florio and LaQuan Jones and Happy Tuesday, fellas

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Speaker 1: Happy leading up to Championship week and one of us

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Speaker 1: gets to be excited about it, the other two of

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Speaker 1: us get to, uh, you know, just sort of watch

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Speaker 1: stress free.

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Speaker 2: We will have a very low stress weekends.

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Speaker 3: I will be stressed. I will be stressed this weekend.

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Speaker 3: This is the only weekend I will find myself stressed

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Speaker 3: because this robe that I'm wearing has been representation of

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Speaker 3: how I've been feeling. So we're crazy, We're cool, coming on.

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Speaker 2: I really was trying to figure out what you were

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Speaker 2: going with that.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, like, what, I'm drinking my green tea this morning,

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Speaker 3: and we're just comfortable right now, because honestly, the entire weekend,

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Speaker 3: I was just getting hate mail, like dms, my friends,

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Speaker 3: the group chats, even the group chat that we share

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Speaker 3: with our fellow friends of the fantasy space, and I'm

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Speaker 3: just like, why you guys poking the bear man? I'm

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Speaker 3: sitting behind the glass window.

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Speaker 2: Because we always poke the bear.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting behind the glass window, just watching the chaos,

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Speaker 3: watching the things come off the glass. I'm seeing on

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Speaker 3: the tato chat.

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Speaker 4: You do this all the time, where you're like, why

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Speaker 4: would everyone want to come at me?

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Speaker 2: Don't come with a baseball bat?

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Speaker 4: And and then be like.

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Speaker 2: Well, why would anyone say something to me? I didn't

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Speaker 2: do anything.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing on the internet, there's nothing in our group chats.

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Speaker 3: As I said, I haven't said anything. I've just been chilling.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing you have created. You have created an.

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Speaker 1: Energy towards you right where like you spend the whole

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Speaker 1: season throwing rocks at bee hives and then just because

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Speaker 1: for like you know, on a random Sunday, you decide

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Speaker 1: to not throw a rock at a bed, like the

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Speaker 1: bees already see you coming and they prepare them elves.

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Speaker 4: Well, the bees are still chasing me, but they'll be

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Speaker 4: in Cancun.

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Speaker 3: They'll be on their couch watching the Rams win another

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Speaker 3: NFC championship.

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Speaker 2: On the road to the Super Bowl. We'll get to that.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that in the week. We'll get that.

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Speaker 4: I'm not barking I'm just saying.

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Speaker 1: We will get to that later in the week. We

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Speaker 1: got plenty of stuff to talk about. We're gonna wrap

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Speaker 1: up the division a weekend. We got plenty of news

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Speaker 1: to dive into as well, and sort of like last week,

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Speaker 1: most of the focus with the game recaps are going

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Speaker 1: to be on the losing side, just because again chance

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Speaker 1: to sort of, you know, put a bow on what's

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Speaker 1: going on with those.

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Speaker 2: Teams and what have you.

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Speaker 1: But got to get started with some news because there

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Speaker 1: has been a lot of coaching news since we last talk,

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Speaker 1: since you guys last talk. You guys had a great

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Speaker 1: conversation with Scott Porter last week aka Jason Street from

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Speaker 1: Friday Night Lights. Also a noted Broncos fan, a huge

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Speaker 1: Nebraska born Huskers fans. We may try to get him

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Speaker 1: back on either before or after the draft, kind of

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Speaker 1: get his thoughts on that as well. I know he's

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Speaker 1: a big fantasy guy. So thanks to Scott for coming

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Speaker 1: in to do they catch up with him again in

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Speaker 1: the near future.

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Speaker 4: But uh, of course Foretrdolph one of the most watched shows.

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Speaker 2: Of the year.

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Speaker 4: Georgia and Jenny, so shout out to stuff for that.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to to Scott for that as well for

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Speaker 1: Georgia and Jenny for sure.

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Speaker 2: Check that out on Netflix. Correct, all right on Netflix.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, some of the coaching moves as the carousel continues

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Speaker 1: to spin. The Falcons have gotten their guy. It didn't

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Speaker 1: take long for Kevin Stefanski to find a new job

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Speaker 1: after he was let go by the Browns. He now

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Speaker 1: So I'll ask you this, folks, I think you were

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't care which one of you guys

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Speaker 1: was bigger on Pinis. Maybe it was, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Was it okay? So then I'll ask you, I mean,

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Speaker 4: Well, he tours a CEO. Let's start there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, with the fantasy's coming in, it's not

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Speaker 3: to be looking at Kirk Cousins and Michael Pennis in

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Speaker 3: We don't know if it's a staying or not. But

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Speaker 3: him failing up I like to call it because I'm

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Speaker 3: amazing Hire. I would say, I guess, you know, going

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Speaker 1: So you said, you know, fallowing up a little bit, right,

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Speaker 1: And I guess on the surface it seems that way

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Speaker 1: that he's falling up. But Floria, I look at this

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Speaker 1: as he goes to a team. Now, great, he's got

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Speaker 1: there's a much better caps that you right now in

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Speaker 1: in terms of pass catchers, especially with Kyle Pittson.

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Speaker 2: Free agency sounds sort of like Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: A team with a good defense, pretty your running backs,

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Speaker 1: huge questions a quarterback, and aside from like a tight

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Speaker 1: pass catchers. So like maybe on the surface it feels

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Speaker 2: Know, and it could really be a lateral move.

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Speaker 4: To further the comparison, Right, you have a a quote

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Speaker 4: unquote young I'm not calling Michael Pennis young anymore.

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Speaker 2: He's twenty. Well, he's not young.

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Speaker 4: But you have a quote unquote young quarterback. And then

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Speaker 4: you have a veteran who is earning a ton of money,

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Speaker 4: and like it's very similar to Cleveland in that regard

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Speaker 4: as well. On Michael Pennix, though I'm not I'm far

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Speaker 4: from sold because yeah, he's twenty six. We have no

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Speaker 4: acl was his third, Like let's not forget about the

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Speaker 4: Now that's unfortunate, but it is something that you need

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Speaker 4: to that that matters when you're breaking down. Is Michael

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Speaker 2: The other thing?

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Speaker 4: And I know you look at their stats and there

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Speaker 4: it was one extra start for Penix, but their stats

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Speaker 4: were very like. Cousins had the slightly higher completion percentage,

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Speaker 4: the slightly higher touchdown rate, the slightly higher interception rate.

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Speaker 4: The success rate was slightly higher for Penix, but it's

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Speaker 4: both were poor. Like the fact that neither like he

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Speaker 4: couldn't separate himself from what Kirk Cousins is at this

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Speaker 4: be shocked if, like, maybe next year they can't get

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Speaker 4: he has to come in and make one of these

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that is clear, right.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they wanted to move on from Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 1: but because of the Pennicks injury, they're together at least

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Speaker 4: But aren't they glad though?

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Speaker 2: Are they?

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Speaker 4: Like they didn't I mean, they didn't know they didn't

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Speaker 4: trade them. Yeah, right, in the end, It's like, good

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Speaker 4: job keeping him because we kind of known that Penis

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Speaker 4: had these injuries in his history, I mean towards Aco

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Speaker 3: This one's on the right side. But it's like Bronze

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Speaker 3: are on the same Bradford you know path. Right now,

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Speaker 3: they went five and three with Kirk and three Sea Pennix.

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Speaker 1: So that's the problem here, though, is right, like kirk

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Speaker 1: Cousins is not going to help you bottom out, Like

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins will keep you as a contender in a

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Speaker 1: bad division.

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Speaker 2: Right, you had three teams finished eight and nine.

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Speaker 1: It's funny the Falcons finished eight to nine and they

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Speaker 1: had long since been out of the playoff race, like

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Speaker 1: they got hot at the wrong time.

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Speaker 4: If they don't lose to the Jets, or if they

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Speaker 4: don't lose to the Panthers twice, like they win that division.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So but here's the problem, right, kirk Cousins keeps you competitive,

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Speaker 1: which hurts your well, now they don't didn't even have

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Speaker 1: like you're still in trouble. Potentially you know, you get

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Speaker 1: like a mid round pick next year. If kirk Cousins

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Speaker 1: helps you if Cousins in pinnics get you back to

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Speaker 1: eight and nine again, maybe they.

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Speaker 2: Should have moved on from Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they should have just been flat out bad, because

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Speaker 1: since we insist on having a draft that's based on

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Speaker 4: And we need that pick man, we should we were

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Speaker 4: in the top ten.

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Speaker 1: Because apparently after fifty some odd years, we can't figure

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Speaker 2: Do this thing.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, anyway, the Marcus as the draft, it's just

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Speaker 1: it's dumb.

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Speaker 2: It is a dumb.

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Speaker 1: Idea that's made for television, but it doesn't actually solve

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Speaker 1: the problem of creating like good teams.

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad I've seen the movie.

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Speaker 1: It just doesn't do anything to actually helped teams get better.

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Speaker 1: It's just as it made for TV event that generates

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Speaker 1: a lot of revenue for people that aren't us. So

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Speaker 1: maybe they should have moved on from Kirk Cousins. I

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Speaker 1: guess that's my long way of saying that.

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Speaker 4: Why don't they move off from both this offseason? Like

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw an name out there. The first thing

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Speaker 4: that came to mind was Kyler Murray, but I think

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Speaker 4: an even more fun one who will be more affordable

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Speaker 4: is Malik Willis? Like, I think Malik Willis could play

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Speaker 4: at the NFL level, and I think he should get

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Speaker 4: a chance to start. I don't know if this is

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Speaker 4: the exact spot, but I'm gonna be. I'm just letting

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Speaker 4: you guys know now, every time we talk about a

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Speaker 4: quarterback needy team, I'm gonna mention Malik Willis this offseason.

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Speaker 2: Okay, right, prepare for it. That's all. I'm just glad

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Speaker 4: I just think he's better than most of the people

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Speaker 4: were not most, but better than a lot of the

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Speaker 4: guys who keep getting multiple chances.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Side note all this Michael Pennix talk, and I know

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Speaker 1: that neither of you were necessarily huge college football fans,

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Speaker 4: I mean, like they weren't very good when you were there,

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Speaker 2: They weren't very problem.

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Speaker 1: They were good to one hundred and fifty years, like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Indiana now has the last undefeated college season in

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Speaker 2: Now, Oh, that's wild, That's kind of wild. Who would

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Speaker 1: Other coaching news, the Tennessee Titans are close to locking

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Speaker 1: Admits and seeds he got a raw deal with the Jets.

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Speaker 4: I think the Titan were the best because you have

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Speaker 2: And stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: Like, he has the opportunity to completely revamp this roster.

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Speaker 4: So if you could get that defense competitive again and

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Speaker 1: So that feels like, at least for our purposes, for

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Speaker 3: I mean, is Mike McDaniel still out there available? I

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Speaker 3: I put it like this, we know Sala ain't gonna

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, they do have pieces.

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Speaker 1: I mean I was on DK as a sleeper several

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Speaker 1: I'm curious about this McDaniel thing because I feel like

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Speaker 3: Hey, Salad Took took a defensive coordinator job. Reset next year,

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Speaker 3: he's ad coach. I mean, look, I feel like Mike

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Speaker 1: The difference is nobody was calling sala to be a

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Speaker 2: At least you.

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Speaker 4: Drag it out because you also might get the call

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Speaker 4: and that leads you quicker to being a head coach again.

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Speaker 4: So I think, if you're McDaniel, you take your time here.

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Speaker 4: But there's a good possibility that he could end up

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Speaker 1: I think not to mention that if somebody's gonna fly

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Speaker 2: That's just what.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I love as a head coach,

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Speaker 3: We know he ain't gonna be going to the Raiders, right, Ravens, Steelers,

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Speaker 3: They're off the table, I mean Daniel, Yeah, Like, what

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Speaker 4: I mean Raiders? Does he is he interested? Is he interested?

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Speaker 1: And letting him scheme up, letting him scheme up that

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Speaker 3: And if things go south after the season he just

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Speaker 2: That's a hymn problem. Yeah, like head coaching gig over

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Speaker 2: and no, like you just yeah, you just do. I

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Speaker 1: I'm taking a head coaching job over an OC.

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Speaker 4: I don't care unless it's to go to Baltimore doesn't

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Speaker 2: Maybe the Bills maybe, Like then you could be.

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Speaker 4: Like, all right, do you pull up, Ben Johnson, I'm

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Speaker 2: But otherwise, like I'd.

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Speaker 4: Rather be the head coach of the Raiders than the

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Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. Yeah, No, I would too. I wo'd

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Speaker 2: It's hard to get.

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Speaker 4: Out because if the Titans come out swinging.

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Speaker 3: Let's say they make the playoffs, because we've seen coaches

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Speaker 3: Then Mike mcdan that next coaching cycle in the next

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Speaker 2: You want him to go to the Raiders.

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Speaker 4: But what if the Titans don't do that? What if

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Speaker 1: I mean, like the mystery box could be anything. It

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Speaker 1: what are we doing?

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Speaker 2: Solid? Did it here?

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Speaker 4: We are now a boat to both?

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Speaker 2: I mean, what are we doing again?

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Speaker 4: I'd argue the Raiders have more offensive talent than the

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Speaker 4: they're gonna have Both teams are gonna have a number

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Speaker 4: one pick quarterback. One team has Brock Bowers and Nash

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Speaker 1: Not not brock Bowers, but some respect them. My boy

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Speaker 1: bro got more coaching news to get into, but take

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Podcast. Back here on the podcast and the

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Speaker 1: still more coaching news to get to. Packers defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: Jeff Halflee has taken over, is going to take the

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Speaker 1: I have no idea what to expect from Jeff Hafley

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Speaker 1: to see Jeff Hafley get a job, to get an

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Speaker 1: hearing these same names just show up all the time,

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Speaker 1: I get it right. John Harbaugh was always going to

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Speaker 1: one arena that somehow that makes them smart and transfers

444
00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,360
Speaker 1: over to other places. Most of your NFL owners did

445
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 1: not make money in football.

446
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,720
Speaker 2: And as these teams start to get passed.

447
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 1: Down and inherited and become legacy teams, right look at

448
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 1: the Maras in New York, the Rooneys in Pittsburgh, Mark

449
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,880
Speaker 1: Davis in Las Vegas. These are people who have inherited

450
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 1: their teams from other people. So they have maybe I guess,

451
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 1: sort of made their money in football, but that doesn't

452
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,240
Speaker 1: mean they have expertise in this. Just because you're smart

453
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,680
Speaker 1: at real estate or tech doesn't mean you're smart at football.

454
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,920
Speaker 1: And so what happens is the hype machine starts promoting

455
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 1: some guys to these owners or these consulting firms, which,

456
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,120
Speaker 1: by the way, that seems like a really cushy gig.

457
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 2: Let me just hand you a bunch of names that

458
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Speaker 2: you can interview.

459
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 1: Right, So instead we end up with the same retreads

460
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 1: over and over again, you know, I mean, just it's

461
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 1: just as frustrating. So I'm happy to see a guy

462
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 1: like Jeff Hafley, who.

463
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Speaker 2: Wasn't getting a lot of buzz getting in.

464
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,679
Speaker 1: There because you know, it's just it's like agents feeding

465
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 1: names to reporters that get pumped through the cycle, and

466
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,200
Speaker 1: then the same names keep showing up over and over again.

467
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 1: I mean, that's how at the point Josh McDaniel's name

468
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,679
Speaker 1: was floating up again for head coaching jobs, like what

469
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 1: are we doing?

470
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:09,400
Speaker 2: What is happening?

471
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 4: I don't want to give you the other guy credit,

472
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 4: but PFT did report over the weekend that the other guy,

473
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,360
Speaker 4: an anonymous head coach, apparently said it is the worst

474
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 4: collection of thirty two owners the NFL has ever had.

475
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 4: And on NFL Radio Network Radio on Serious I was

476
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 4: listening to it yesterday, they were kind of explaining how

477
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Speaker 4: a lot of these owners, like you said, Marcus, make

478
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 4: their money in other areas and then they come in

479
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 4: here and they expect immediate success because they've always had

480
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 4: success in business and stuff and like very different.

481
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Speaker 1: I mean, I like comic books and I own a

482
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 1: bunch of them. I can't draw, like you know what

483
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Loving a thing does that make you good

484
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 1: at that thing?

485
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 2: Like just I did get throw off my chest understood.

486
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Speaker 1: So the Dolphins tire Jeff Halfley uh to uh. I

487
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: don't know that much longer than the aside from Devon

488
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 1: h Aside and maybe maybe Jalen Wattle, anything of interest

489
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 1: for either of you guys in Miami right now, Darren

490
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: Waller and they will come back.

491
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 4: They want him back.

492
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 3: I mean, he was there at the scene end of

493
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 3: crime when Mike Madaniels fired.

494
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 2: They still wanted him back.

495
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 3: But no, he said Stephen Ross wanted him back. He

496
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 3: said that, That's what he said to him. So I

497
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 3: think they do want him back. I mean, honestly, if

498
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 3: he's healthy, why not. I mean we were all just

499
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 3: kind of surprised about, you know, what he was putting

500
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 3: out there for fantasy, So I don't know. I think

501
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 3: Darren Waller becomes an interest. I think honestly, Waddle's still

502
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,880
Speaker 3: in that you know, mixture of a wide receiver two ish,

503
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 3: you know, maybe a wide receiver one because we're probably

504
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 3: not going to see Tyreek Hill for a very long time,

505
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 3: like he's on that Tank Dell type of expectation back

506
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 3: in time of that injury. And plus this guy's in

507
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 3: his thirties, Like your body acts different when you're thirty, so.

508
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask.

509
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, when he's healthy, there's going to be

510
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: interest in Tyreek Hill. But this feels like we're heading

511
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: towards sort of an Odell Beckham type ending.

512
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 3: Yes, DeAndre Hopkins, like he's going to enter the NFL

513
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 3: retirement home because, like I text Cam Wolf the other day,

514
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, what is the expectations on Tyreek Hill?

515
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 4: And he just was like, I don't know.

516
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's he's got some return. Yeah,

517
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 3: and like we've already seen this decline, so it's it's

518
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 3: to the point now we kind of have to just

519
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 3: face reality of like we've seen the best of Tyreek Hill,

520
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 3: like it's the past now, like it's in the decline

521
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 3: right now.

522
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Speaker 2: It is the first thing to go, Yeah, I mean

523
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 2: it really is.

524
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: And like without that speed, he's not anything close to

525
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: the same receiver.

526
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Speaker 4: Which is no longer the identity of the Dolphins now,

527
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 4: so it's Jeff Haffley, Big Jersey. Yeah, And that's the thing,

528
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 4: Like we need to see who the play caller is

529
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 4: going to be. But as of right now, I'm probably

530
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 4: going to be a lot lower on the doll consent

531
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 4: I'm typically lower on Jalen Wattle most years anyway, but

532
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 4: that's because of the Tyreek kill and stuff. But yeah,

533
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 4: like so much of what would they of them generating

534
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 4: these pass looks for a chen and stuff was because

535
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 4: of Mike McDaniel's system. So we got to see who

536
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 4: the new play caller is. But I don't know if

537
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 4: it's going to be as effective as it has been

538
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 4: under Mike, because I still believe Mike McDaniel is a

539
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 4: great offensive mind.

540
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: No, I think he is too.

541
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Speaker 1: I just don't know that he's head coach material. I

542
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: think he's a good he's a good play caller, he's

543
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 1: a good OSA. I think that might be it, at

544
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: least for now. Speaking of offensive coordinators, some OC news

545
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, because time is a flat circle, planned to

546
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Speaker 1: bring back Eric b Enemy as the next offensive coordinator.

547
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the guy who went from everybody

548
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: wondering how he can't get a head coaching job to

549
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: being the offensive coordinator at UCLA for a year, then

550
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,959
Speaker 1: being a running backs coach with the Raiders.

551
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Speaker 2: Or the Bears rather.

552
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't know, guys, I don't know that

553
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: this changes anything for me, because, like I feel like

554
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: the OC and Kansas City is sort of a ceremonial

555
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: position since Andy Reid that does the stuff.

556
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 4: You know what's gonna happen, right, You're gonna hear like

557
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 4: the deep ball was at its best when Eric b

558
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 4: Enemy was there. But it's more of the personnel, and

559
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,479
Speaker 4: that's gonna matter more than anything, is who the Chiefs

560
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 4: bring in because I think Kelsey's gone. We don't know

561
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 4: what Richie Rice is going to be able to do

562
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 4: this season, so like they need to add Pat xader

563
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 4: Worthy is he gets a pass, but like he's been

564
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 4: really bad since he's gotten there, So like.

565
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 2: It's they need to add more.

566
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 4: So that's gonna determine a lot more to me than

567
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 4: who than the enemy helping Andy Reid draw plays.

568
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Lion's Whip. Lions hired Drew Petsing as

569
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Speaker 1: their new offensive coordinator. Now, Lakwan, you've been pretty critical

570
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: of Drew Petsing, but you seemed excited for what this

571
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: means for Sam Laporta next year.

572
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I text you, guys man, because like when

573
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 3: this hire happened, like I kind of was just watching

574
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 3: the fantasy streets react and obviously they reacted normally how

575
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 3: they always react and overreact, So it was more so like,

576
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 3: oh mon Roz done, Oh my god, the Lions are

577
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 3: so stupid. D like Drew pets ain't coming in too

578
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 3: inventiveate wheel, like it's coming in to be the offensive

579
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 3: coordinator to stabilize his offense, like Sam Laporter definitely becomes

580
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 3: back on the table of that top five, like I'm

581
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 3: ready to redo my top five tight ends that we

582
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 3: just did like two weeks ago, Like I'm looking at

583
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 3: this higher as like this is quietly elite for a

584
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 3: monra operating out a slot, doing everything on versatility that

585
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 3: he has. I think Drew Petsing's coming into a situation

586
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 3: that he can't fail unless you're John Morton, which clearly

587
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: he didn't have that much experience. But Drew Petsing was

588
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 3: able to get career highs from Jacoby Brissett, from Trade McBride,

589
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 3: from Michael Wilson. These are all players that were staples

590
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 3: of that offense this season that were showing improving that

591
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 3: his system works with the right quarterback.

592
00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: Yes, they were.

593
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 3: Losing games, they were playing from behind, it was garbage time,

594
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, he was able

595
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 3: to get this offense to click at times, to go

596
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 3: out there and put up a fight in the game,

597
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 3: said Jacoby Brissett was throwing for three hundred plus yards.

598
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 3: They were losing by three points. So it's looking at

599
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 3: this as a ladder move for him as an offensive coordinator.

600
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 3: But he's coming in with upgraded pieces.

601
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Speaker 1: In my opinion, he's a quarterback to just Degaffs just

602
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: just doesn't give a bleep.

603
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 4: As much as I love Jacoby Brissett and I was

604
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 4: watching him very closely, it's it is a lot easier

605
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 4: to throw when when you're down three scores and everyone's

606
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 4: playing soft coverage, you know, like, but.

607
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: It's also easier to throw when you have a guy

608
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: like Jimior Gibbs that has you know, defense verified too.

609
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

610
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 4: I also maybe this want Jenn Campbell to remain highly

611
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 4: highly involved in the play calling though, and then we

612
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 4: don't get David Montgomery.

613
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,239
Speaker 1: And I am not one who's out here looking for

614
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: social media engagement generally for better or worse, I don't know.

615
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 1: But I'm also like, we don't have to have instant

616
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: reaction to all of these, like we can. We can

617
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: let it breathe, we can just acknowledge. Hey, Drew Petsing

618
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: is now in Detroit. All right, let me take some

619
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: time and gather my thoughts before I just start firing

620
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: off that it's the death knell for this player or

621
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: that player. I mean, I know that'll never happen, because

622
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's Twitter, man. Fantasy streets are Twitter. When

623
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: I talk about it, now clicks and we have to

624
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: feed Elon's beast or whatever. But you know we don't.

625
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: We don't have to do that. We can all be better.

626
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: I want better for us. That's what I want in

627
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. I want better for us.

628
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 2: You know what it does.

629
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 4: I know probably a lot of passes to jamiir game

630
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 4: James Connor was racking up catches in Arizona that wouldn't suck.

631
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: At all.

632
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,239
Speaker 3: That's why I'm like, where's this coming from? Like I

633
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 3: have no idea why this is the death nail for

634
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 3: all their star studied players, Like it never makes sense

635
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 3: for this.

636
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: It's the fantasy streets. But go on, Marcus Fisture, Well, I'm.

637
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,239
Speaker 1: Just gonna go on to a break because then we're

638
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: gonna comeack. We're gonna talk about the divisional games over

639
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: the weekend and start with the Broncos and the Bills,

640
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: because a lot of news rounding both the Broncos and

641
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: the Bills after that game. So we've got that and

642
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: plenty more coming up on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

643
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: All right, so diving into the divisional round of games starting,

644
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: we'll just rip the bandaid off for you here Florio

645
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: Broncos thirty three, Bills thirty in overtime. A couple of

646
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: big headlines coming out of the game, one that certainly

647
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: shocked everybody immediately afterwards finding out that Bo Nicks broke

648
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: his ankle in that game. He has gone for the

649
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: rest of the season. So suddenly Jared Stidham has become

650
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: important at work and it might end.

651
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: Up ruining his life.

652
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: But in reality, Lakwan, is this a real really a

653
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: major down gram unit. It's a downgrade from bow Knicks,

654
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: But this is a team that really is built on defense.

655
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe this isn't as bleak as it seems

656
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: at first glance.

657
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 3: Like if you ask Sean Payne, he has full confidence

658
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 3: in him. Like I think we forget that it was

659
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: like one of the decisions that he made to bring

660
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 3: on him. Like before Bo was even drafted, Like there

661
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Speaker 3: was even conversation that if we remember during the draft,

662
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 3: like Jared Stindham might be the starter Week one, like

663
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 3: he has full confidence in him and like I do,

664
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 3: think we haven't seen enough from Jared Sidham. So the

665
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 3: immediate reaction is like all we have is preseason clips

666
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 3: of this year of him playing. But I think him

667
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 3: being in that QB room, him having the confidence coming

668
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: from Sean Payton, that we should expect Jared Stidham to

669
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 3: at least come in to be serviceable. Like I don't

670
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 3: think he's going to have those wowing moments that Bo

671
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 3: gives us. I don't think he's going to be as

672
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 3: mobile out of the pocket, even though we've seen him

673
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 3: he can move around and make quicker decisions, Like I

674
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 3: don't think he's going to go out there rushing for

675
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 3: like twenty plus yards, Like I think it's more so

676
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 3: he's going to be looking for to check down just

677
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 3: to be a serviceable quarterback. So that's as much expectations

678
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 3: I have for him moving into this next round.

679
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 4: It's a very important game. Like you said, this could

680
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 4: ruin his life.

681
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, if Sean Payton

682
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 3: feels as though that he has the high football IQ

683
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 3: that he is praised guy ever since we've gotten the

684
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 3: news for bot Nicks in the injury, so it's like

685
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: we kind of have to throw our hands up and

686
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: see what Sean Payton draws up for him.

687
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think they're gonna try to keep

688
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: it as simple as possible, you know, And again it's

689
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: just the defense is what I think has to win the.

690
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: Game for Denver.

691
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll definitely dive into it more on Thursday show.

692
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, obviously it was.

693
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: A big thing that sort of turned everybody's head when

694
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: we all found out that information. The post mortem with

695
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: the Bills begins with them firing head coach Sean McDermott

696
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: after nine seasons Florida.

697
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: I know that you had said it repeatedly. I don't

698
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: know if you.

699
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: Said it on the show, but you certainly said it

700
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: to us all privately that the Bills, if the Bills

701
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: fell short again, that they were gonna have to fire McDermott,

702
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: And apparently Terry Pagoula agrees.

703
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: Now Brandon Bean gets to keep his gig.

704
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: Got promoted, which is right back to our conversation in

705
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: the first segment about own and not you know, look,

706
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: maybe being good at one thing and not at the other,

707
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: Like the Bills are doing the same thing that the Giants.

708
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: Are right where. You're cleaning house and you're bringing in.

709
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: New coaches, but you're keeping the same general manager who's

710
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: in charge of all the player personnel. That wasn't really

711
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: good enough in the first place. I don't understand it,

712
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: but whatever. So that being said, Floria, who would you

713
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: like to see as your next head coach?

714
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: I do want to give a like. I've been critical

715
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: of McDermott because.

716
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 4: I believe that you only get so many bites at

717
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 4: the Apple and when you have a like what I

718
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 4: would say is an all time talent in Josh Allen,

719
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 4: you need to have more success and you can't give

720
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 4: up thirty one points per game and your playoff losses.

721
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 4: But I actually think this year was one of his

722
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 4: best coaching jobs since he got to Buffalo because the

723
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 4: roster was super thin, so thin to the fact that

724
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 4: like we could pinpoint the exact you know that meme

725
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 4: where it's like the small domino and at the end,

726
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 4: it's like you pushed a little small domino of claim

727
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 4: Darius slay off of waivers, and the big one is

728
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 4: Dan Jackson gets torched for a game losing touchdown like that.

729
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 4: That is the cycle of events that led the Bills

730
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 4: to where they're at. Also, don't get me started on

731
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 4: the refs.

732
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: Who do I want?

733
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 4: There's no clear cut candidate where I'm like, this guy

734
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 4: is the slam dunk. That's why I thought last year

735
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 4: was the year because Ben Johnson was the slam dunk.

736
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 2: And I no disrespect to Chicago.

737
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 4: I think if you were like, hey, come work with

738
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 4: Josh Allen, that might have lured been away.

739
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: But there's combinations that I like.

740
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 4: I think the big issue with the Bills, and they're

741
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 4: trying to point it as saying it was like a

742
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 4: McDermott issue. They always brought in high character guys, right,

743
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 4: like guys who are good for the community and stuff

744
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 4: like that. You need some dogs too, though, and the

745
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 4: Bills never had a guy like that who strikes fear

746
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 4: into the heart of opposing offensive play. So I think

747
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 4: Brian Flores could be someone that comes in and gets

748
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 4: that defense to what it needs to be.

749
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: But I think you pair him.

750
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 4: My dream pairing is Brian Flores and Brian Dable and

751
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 4: just two psychos, like let's let's see what they could

752
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 4: do together. But Mike mcbrian comes to mind as one,

753
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 4: like like to me, there's no perfect candidate, but there's

754
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 4: really good duos you could make, like Mike Tomlin in

755
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 4: one of these offensive lines. That makes sense too. But yeah,

756
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 4: I just I don't want it to be Joe Brady.

757
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 4: I'll put that on record right now.

758
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: Damn what Joe do?

759
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: I love the rout here handcuffing coaches like like it

760
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: was like as a backfield or something.

761
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, that's the only way, Like and what

762
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 4: did Joe do?

763
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 2: Uh?

764
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 4: He he could scheme up a run game. He can't

765
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 4: really scheme up downfield and more than anything, like you're

766
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 4: running the same attack out there then minus its head

767
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 4: and who knows what the defense will look like? Like

768
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 4: I I don't know if that's the best route to

769
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 4: go here.

770
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: So that being said, right, obviously, Josh Allen is an

771
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: attractive opportunity for any coach right to have to come

772
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: in and be able to work with him. But nol Q,

773
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: You've pointed this out before and it was a problem.

774
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 2: Over the weekend.

775
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: Turnovers are something to some point you kind of have

776
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: to live with him with Josh Allen because of that's

777
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: just the style that he plays. But will the new

778
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 1: head coach or offensive coordinator have to sort of rein

779
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: him in?

780
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: And is it possible?

781
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Josh being Superman has gotten the bills this far.

782
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: Do you take his cape off?

783
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: And do you risk maybe sort of upsetting everything if

784
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: he can't just be who he is?

785
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 4: The turnovers are definitely a problem, and I think whoever

786
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 4: comes in will definitely have to reel it. And like,

787
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 4: all right, chill, now, you don't have to put the

788
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 4: cape on. You don't have to do silly things.

789
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: You don't have to run in open space with one

790
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 3: hand on the ball and you throw it back twenty

791
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 3: yards like. This is the thing that bothers me is

792
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: that Josh doesn't really have the pieces around him where

793
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 3: he doesn't have to put his cape on. Like at

794
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 3: least when Diggs was there, we could say, okay, this

795
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: Batman and Robin.

796
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 4: This is Superman and Batman, Like you have two pieces

797
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 4: of this offense, and now you add in a run game.

798
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 4: But now we have Brandon.

799
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 3: Cooks as your big deep thread. You have Khalil Shakir

800
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 3: who is your slot wide receiver. Not to throw any

801
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: shade to Shakira because I'm a huge fan for him,

802
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, he shouldn't be

803
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: your one like, he shouldn't be the guy that Josh

804
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 3: has to constantly look to. He should have multiple pieces

805
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 3: around him. He is a top tier, elite quarterback. He

806
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 3: is now at his peak. Climax, we're near the falling

807
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 3: action right now. This boy will be thirty next year.

808
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: It gets harder your body change as soon as you

809
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: turn thirty. So whoever comes in, you have to reel

810
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 3: him in to play more conservative, to not sit there

811
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 3: and put that cape on every single game. And these

812
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 3: games are coming down to the turnovers.

813
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna push back because Josh Allen had one of

814
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 4: the cleanest seasons ever in twenty twenty four, like historically

815
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 4: one of the least negative plays we've ever seen a

816
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 4: quarterback make. I think the issue is is what you

817
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 4: were saying, Like, think about this Denver game, right you're cruising,

818
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 4: You're potentially gonna go up two scores, and your best,

819
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 4: most reliable playmaker puts the ball on the ground. Now

820
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 4: you find yourself down a touchdown. And I do think

821
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 4: that fumble at the end of the half was like

822
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 4: twenty eighteen rookie year Josh Allen. But it's something I've

823
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 4: said a lot throughout this season. Is a lot of

824
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 4: the time it feels like Josh is pressing because he

825
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 4: knows he doesn't make a play, no one is going

826
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 4: to so and then to talk about that, Yeah, four

827
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 4: turnovers is bad, right. One of them was a blind

828
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 4: side strip sack. That's not really on him. I would

829
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 4: say it happened very quickly, the old line got blown up.

830
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 4: The other one Brandon one, I will die that.

831
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: I like if.

832
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 4: Brandon, if DeVante Adams caught it, if Hutchinson caught it,

833
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 4: Brandon Cooks DeVante out the same playing right, Like I

834
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 4: know people are saying he made a football move.

835
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: No you can't.

836
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 4: You have to do more than just put your two

837
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 4: feet on the ground for it to be a football move.

838
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: And Brandon Cooks the feet were on the ground.

839
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 4: So the inconsistencies aside, like brand Cooks should have caught that.

840
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 4: It was in his hands. So that I don't put

841
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 4: on Josh either, like to me, I yes he does.

842
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 4: I think the new coach needs to rein him in,

843
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 4: but we've seen him already rein it in, so I don't.

844
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 2: Really worry as much about that.

845
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 4: I look at this team and I'm like, if you

846
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 4: put literally any other quarterback with this group of weapons,

847
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 4: I don't think they make it as far as they did,

848
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 4: which is why I wanted Brandon Bean gone as well.

849
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 4: But he legitimately talks to the owner daily and that's

850
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 4: why he got a promoted promotion.

851
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 3: My thing is what you said, though, is like Bean

852
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: is in charge of putting the pieces in place. The

853
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: cap is what negative eleven million, That's part of his job, right,

854
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: and this is the product you have out there, Like

855
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 3: I don't understand how that second most paid player Dawson Knox,

856
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 3: sixth highest paid player Curtis Samuel Josh Palmer is the

857
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 3: top ten highest paid player they couldn't get on the field, Like, yeah,

858
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 3: it's just bad. And also four crucial plays at the

859
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 3: end of the game by the refs, all four went

860
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: one way, Like that was if it was past interference

861
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 3: on Courtland in overtime, it was past interference on Brandon

862
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 3: Cooks in the fourth quarter. You guys were holding though, man,

863
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 3: Like you see those clips like you guys are hold

864
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 3: hole on every play that was a safety.

865
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: My boy, that was Ronco's.

866
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 4: Defense, the most penalized physical defense in the NFL, did

867
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 4: not have a single flag on them in five quarters.

868
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 2: Clean football man playoffs.

869
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: You know next year, next year, after you guys draft

870
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:37,959
Speaker 1: mackay Lemon thinks will be better.

871
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: That's it.

872
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, man Riley Moss running down with his

873
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 4: hand on Cook's shoulder, pulling him back. They don't throw it,

874
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 4: but then Toron Johnson does the same thing, he gets flagged.

875
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 4: It's look, the Bills are not without They did everything

876
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 4: they could to put the hands in the rest Seahawks.

877
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 3: Said the same thing the two two. We ain't ever

878
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: going to get that that call. But I do feel

879
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 3: like the rally Moss one was clear as day though.

880
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 3: But but my thing is to be a good official,

881
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 3: you don't need to call every call.

882
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 4: You need to be consistent, and they weren't consistent at

883
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 4: the end of that game.

884
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 2: That's fair. That's fair. Okay. I will want to move

885
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: on because about this. I one can go all day

886
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: and I just don't want you know, I don't want

887
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 2: you to have to live this.

888
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: I know you have other things to do with Oh

889
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: I got to do about it? You know, I just

890
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: want to minimize your pain here, so we'll move on.

891
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Thanks twenty eight Texans sixteen. C J.

892
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: Stroud actually hashtag good.

893
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 4: No, No, I okay, I don't think he's terrible, but

894
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 4: I think his rookie year overinflates him a whole lot.

895
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 4: And that rookie year was just off the charts efficient

896
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 4: on the deep ball. We haven't seen that again, which

897
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's going to happen to Drake May,

898
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 4: but Drake May is also having a season where it's

899
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 4: like off the chart efficiency on the deep ball. Regression

900
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 4: does tend to come.

901
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: But like CJ.

902
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 4: Stroud, I think they've done him a lot of disservice

903
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 4: by giving him a worse O line year in and

904
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 4: year out. And this is someone who clearly struggles under pressure.

905
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 4: But yeah, I remember in the middle of the year

906
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 4: on game day preview on Sundays, I was like, I

907
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 4: think we need to have a CJ.

908
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 2: Stroud conversation and everyone was.

909
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 4: Like WHOA Like no, And I like, when you have

910
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 4: a defense as good as Houston, all you need your

911
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 4: offense to do is not give them the opposing team

912
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 4: points in short fields and c J. Stroud was on

913
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 4: a mission to turn the ball over. Felt like every

914
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 4: single time he touched it in both playoff games.

915
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: I can say both of them right, because he apparently

916
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: was sweating Crisco in the game against the Steelers, he

917
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: just could not hold onto the football for whatever reason.

918
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: And then on Sunday, Saturday Sunday against the Patriots, just

919
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: kept throwing the ball to the wrong team, just over

920
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: and over and over again.

921
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: Hit a Nate Peterman first half.

922
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: He just I'm with you, he's not He's not terrible,

923
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: but he's definitely not the guy that we were talking

924
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: about after that first half of his rookie season.

925
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: And there are a lot of factors at play, but

926
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: some of it is just c J.

927
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: Stroud making poor decisions or making poor throws. So yeah,

928
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: their help is needed, but also he needs to sort of,

929
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, evaluate himself. I saw a lot of

930
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: people pointing out that it's sort of started to go

931
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: wrong when he basically sonned to Caleb Williams remember that

932
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: their rookie year, Oh that he was like kind gave

933
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: a little pat on the chest, like hey, you know

934
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: your head up.

935
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 4: Sort of it went viral again. It always goes viral

936
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 4: with Bills fans. But after his rookie year, he was

937
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 4: on a pod and he was like the top five quarterbacks.

938
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 4: It's small and me and everyone's like, oh he put

939
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 4: hisself third.

940
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: Yeah wild Yeah yeah, I saw a lot of that too.

941
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 4: Uh.

942
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: Lakona is Houston's RB one currently on the roster. And

943
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: healthy include the healthwork, you know, because there's a guy

944
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: who would qualify as such, but he's not healthy. So

945
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: is is that player currently there?

946
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: No, he is not.

947
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 3: I like what he marks, and I think Nick Chubb

948
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 3: was serviceable this year. He looked good at times, you know,

949
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 3: fighting for those hard yards, ugly runs. I do feel

950
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: like at the end of the day, they need somebody

951
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 3: that can be their workhorse because what he marks to

952
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 3: me is like a one B situation, like he could

953
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 3: show up at times he's trying to pump his chess

954
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 3: with adorability, but we've seen him leave games early, come back,

955
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 3: leave again. Like I do think that they need like

956
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 3: weekly yeah, exactly, Like, I think they need that workhorse,

957
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 3: and I think they probably draft one or maybe hit

958
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: free agency. I would like to see Brece Hall in Houston. Right,

959
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 3: he can run and he can catch. It's everything that

960
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 3: Joe Mixon was, you know, when he was healthy back

961
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 3: in their first year. So I do think make additions

962
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 3: to the old line, get yourself a worker's run back.

963
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 3: I just don't think that they currently have that right now.

964
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 3: Like there has to be offseason adjustments.

965
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm with you, and I again, you

966
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: know how I feel about what he Marx loved the dude,

967
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: but he's not. Yeah, I mean USCA fight on forever.

968
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 2: But he's not. He's not the guy. He's not built

969
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 2: to be the guy. Although I still do.

970
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: Think the Texans could have worked harder to get him

971
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: involved in the passing game, just because again, that was

972
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: a thing that was his.

973
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: Weird It was what are you doing? I mean, whether

974
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: it's in Mississippi State or USC.

975
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: The dude just caught the football in those stops and

976
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: they just really didn't utilize that part of his game.

977
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: So maybe that's something they've got to look at in

978
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: the offseason.

979
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: But I'm kind of with you. I mean, Nick Chubb is,

980
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: you know, nearing the end. I think that what he

981
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 2: marks is fine, but he's not going to be your guy.

982
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 2: He's not gonna be a guy.

983
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: That you trust to give two hundred touches act what

984
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: you have two undred and twenty this year, So two

985
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty touches, I guess I don't even know.

986
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 1: The two hundred two hundred might actually be the cap

987
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: on what you want to give marks exactly. So take

988
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: a quick break, come back. We got two more games

989
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: to dive into. We will get to that and more

990
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 1: coming up after the break. You're on the NFL Fantasy

991
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: Football Podcast. Two more games to dive into. Over the weekend,

992
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: the Seahawks absolutely thumped the forty nine Ers forty one.

993
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: I don't have the final score. So I was saying, LaQuan,

994
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 2: you were fairly quiet.

995
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: In the text chat this weekend, and I figured you

996
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: were cooking something up, so like, would you like to speak,

997
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: I'm giving.

998
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: You the floor here, No, no, no, I'm gonna have

999
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 3: my actions speak for theirselves. They the forty one ers

1000
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 3: have been in my dms this entire weekend, the last

1001
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 3: week and a half, like, you guys lost, and you

1002
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 3: guys are still barking outside like I just don't.

1003
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 4: Get you, guys.

1004
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 3: But I'll leave that to the internets and stuff, but

1005
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 3: I have nothing to say. I played out exactly how

1006
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: I said it was going to play out. You guys

1007
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 3: don't belong here.

1008
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: You've never chattered after the Rams lost. You've never just

1009
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: you just when the Rams lose. You just fade into

1010
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: the background all the time quietly.

1011
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: Huh.

1012
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 4: Because we lost and gut punching ways.

1013
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 3: Ada came down to miss calls, referees just making the

1014
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 3: rules on the fly. I don't want to get into

1015
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 3: that bag because we respect the referees and how.

1016
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:20,959
Speaker 4: They called the game.

1017
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, our losses, we

1018
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 3: have least shown that we could still have that fight,

1019
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 3: or we beat ourselves. We're not a team that faces

1020
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 3: a bunch of scrub teams all season long and then

1021
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 3: sweak their way into the playoffs and then oh, here

1022
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 3: we are with a real team in front of us.

1023
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 3: It's BTA. So again, I have nothing to say about

1024
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 3: the forty liners. Look y'all lost to their backup, So

1025
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 3: it's Kyle Shanahan. I always but Kymen fumbled on the

1026
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: one and then we gave them opportunity to win the game.

1027
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 4: So therefore beat ourselves. That's how we lost to their backups.

1028
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 3: It wasn't they came out there and we couldn't get

1029
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 3: anything done on offense or they were ripping our defensive part.

1030
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 4: It's because we beat ourselves.

1031
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 2: That's just usually or and just running up and down

1032
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 2: the field on you. Oh my god.

1033
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 4: And again I understand that, but we beat ourselves.

1034
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: So here's the thing I'm look, I did not have

1035
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: high hopes for this weekend. I thought with what the

1036
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 1: Niners did like that was that team as it went along,

1037
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: probably shouldn't have won twelve games. They should not have

1038
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: been in position to maybe when the division possibly be

1039
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: the one seed.

1040
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 2: They just they overachieved this year. And so what happened

1041
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: on Saturday not great, not fun.

1042
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: At twenty seven to six, I flipped over started watching

1043
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: Rush Hour two because I want to see somebody at

1044
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: their ass whooped. That was rather be Ricky Tan than

1045
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: Ricky Piersow. So that's kind of what I decided. You know,

1046
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: it is what it is. But on the whole, like

1047
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: as a fan, the Indian was disappointing. I can't really

1048
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 1: be too upset about the way the season went. All

1049
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: things considered, I do think job number one for the

1050
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: forty nine ers is to find a new practice facility

1051
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: somewhere that's not near a power plant in electrical substation.

1052
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,959
Speaker 1: Let's just start there and then let's build from there.

1053
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: Before we get into this though, something of notes, Zach

1054
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: Sharbonay did tear his ACL in that game, so he

1055
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: is done for the rest of the playoffs, and because

1056
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: it happened so late, I mean, he's probably effectively done

1057
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: for a good chunk of next season as well.

1058
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 2: So we'll see how that goes. I guess that's good

1059
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: news question mark for Kenneth Walker.

1060
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 4: But he's a free agent.

1061
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that's a question for another time.

1062
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 3: If I'm him, I'm leaving. If I'm him, I'm leaving.

1063
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 3: Y'all did me dirty?

1064
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 4: You've seen him be at work horse and explode in

1065
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 4: two games now, right, Like, come on?

1066
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, except you know some of these problems were self

1067
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: inflicted health, Yes, you know.

1068
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: I mean, so it kind of goes both ways.

1069
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna ask is brock Purdy a

1070
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: fantasy QB one next season?

1071
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 2: You know, why would you ask me this? Man? You

1072
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 2: know why I asked you this?

1073
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 4: Yes, Turty can be a QB one, Okay.

1074
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: I don't know who Turny is.

1075
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 3: Brock can be a QB one next year, Okay, yes,

1076
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 3: as long as Kyle Shanahan is the all. I mean

1077
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 3: as the head coach, he's going to put his guys

1078
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 3: in the right place of success, right. I know you

1079
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 3: got Clay QB act there, but he's getting interviews for

1080
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 3: a head coaching job. But it just seems it does

1081
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 3: not matter whoever is offensive coordinator.

1082
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 4: It's Kyle's way.

1083
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 3: Okay, I think he should get Coach of the Year,

1084
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 3: but I think Brock next year showing that he can

1085
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 3: really work with anybody. Like I'm still surprised DeMarcus Robson

1086
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 3: had the back end of the season he's had, or

1087
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 3: even a Kendrick Bourne. Like again, where's Ricky Piersall? We

1088
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 3: don't know, Probably in the blue medical tent, but when

1089
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 3: he's healthy, we could see that he could be serviceable

1090
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 3: as well. So I do think Brock doesn't really need

1091
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 3: like the star studded wide receivers. I think George Kittle,

1092
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 3: We're gonna have to see what he is when he

1093
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 3: comes back. But again, it's kylein Brock show man, like,

1094
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter who's out there. I think we can

1095
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 3: start looking at him as that QB that we were

1096
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 3: looking at Jared Golf or how we're going to be

1097
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 3: looking at Caleb Williams next year like he's in that

1098
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 3: top ten conversation.

1099
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 4: For sure.

1100
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: You mentioned George Kittle and he said recently that he

1101
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: thinks he can be back before November. You guys are

1102
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: going to both be surprised to find out that the

1103
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: surgery was successful.

1104
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: So here's the quote. He says, surgery went really, really good.

1105
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: Doctor Neil Elatrosh said, best case scenario when you tear

1106
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: an achilles is that you tear it up high by

1107
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: your solius, which is what I did.

1108
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: I had a clean tear.

1109
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: They didn't have to drill into my heel and where

1110
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: the repair was there's more blood flow, so it takes

1111
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: some time off the recovery. It's not as bad as

1112
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: other ones. I will have to take his word for it.

1113
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: I am not a medical doctor. I've never even played

1114
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 1: one on TV. I aary stayed at Holiday and Express

1115
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: last night. But we will see whether or not he's back.

1116
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: Because you know, we said around here we talked about

1117
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: our top five tight end rankings.

1118
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 2: Obviously, no Kittle shakes that up. Quite a bit.

1119
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: But if he really thinks he can be back before November,

1120
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: kind of becomes a late round dart throw draftable asset,

1121
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: especially if you have an IR spot in your league.

1122
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: So I think that's worth kind of mentioning Florio Lakwan

1123
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: did mention Ricky Piersall. When he has been available, he's

1124
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: been a pretty good player. The availability has been the

1125
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: issue for him.

1126
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 2: What is the ceiling on him next year?

1127
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: Like, where would you be willing to take him the

1128
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: wide receiver three, wide receiver two?

1129
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 2: What are you thinking as of today?

1130
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 4: I think he is kind of in the range of

1131
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 4: where he was going last year, which is that wide

1132
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 4: receiver three territory. But I do think he has the

1133
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 4: possibility of really once again like last like last summer,

1134
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 4: catching helium and just starting to get pulled up and

1135
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 4: up and up as we get closer to drafts. Because Kittle,

1136
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 4: as much as he wants to say right like, he's

1137
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 4: not even November being best case scenario, that's two months

1138
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 4: into the season.

1139
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 2: Is Juwan Jennings going to be back? Is what's like?

1140
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 4: What is their receiver room going to look like? I

1141
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 4: think it's going to look a whole lot different and

1142
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 4: it might be there is a world where I think

1143
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 4: we could sell ourselves as Ricky Pearsall being the top

1144
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 4: wide receiver target coming into next season for the forty

1145
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 4: nine ers. And like you said, he's shown flashes, obviously

1146
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 4: the injury concerns, and look, this year was kind of

1147
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 4: a lost season for him. I'm not going to hold

1148
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 4: the rookie year against him because getting shot doesn't make

1149
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 4: you injury prone, but this year was problematic. But look,

1150
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 4: I really like Piersoll as a fit for Kyle Shanahan.

1151
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 2: I have since they drafted him.

1152
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 4: So I still think there's a lot of upside there

1153
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 4: and there could be a lot of targets up for grabs.

1154
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 4: But the forty nine ers pass catching and Marcus you

1155
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 4: could talk about this better, but it's probably going to

1156
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 4: look a whole lot different in September than it does

1157
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 4: right now in January.

1158
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: Absolutely, not absolutely will, I mean obviously they're waiting on Kittle.

1159
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 2: That's going to be the big piece you mentioned.

1160
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: Juwan Jennings is a free agent, and he, at least

1161
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: before the season, didn't.

1162
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: Seem like he was completely happy.

1163
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk has been in the Phantom realm the whole

1164
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: season this year and.

1165
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:11,919
Speaker 2: What is he doing?

1166
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,919
Speaker 1: I don't know, And it's wild because somebody pouted this out.

1167
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 1: Like if I'm Brandon Ayuk, I'm kicking myself a little

1168
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: bit because.

1169
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: I look around at what the wide receiver corps was

1170
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I could be eating this year. Yeah,

1171
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 2: I could be the guy. What do you guy?

1172
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: They're out of here trying to make you work with

1173
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne and DeMarcus Robinson, Right, I mean at some

1174
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: point they're running plays for sky Moore.

1175
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 4: Right.

1176
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: If I'm Brandon, you come like I could be eating

1177
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: this year. But for whatever reason, he decided to you know,

1178
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: lock himself in a closet and just you know, cry

1179
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: in the car or whatever.

1180
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 2: I don't know, but.

1181
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a look really really different that

1182
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: I think is priority won for the Niners this offseason.

1183
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: Has figure out their pass catching situation. I think defensively,

1184
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: it's mostly just getting healthy and not practicing next to

1185
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: you know, a hydro electric plant or whatever it was

1186
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:05,280
Speaker 1: they were doing. I think that that sells the defensive

1187
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: side of things a lot. Maybe they got an ad

1188
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: apiece or two, but uh, finding you want.

1189
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: Joey Bosa, you could take. You're gladly we already we

1190
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 2: have We have one Bosa. That's enough.

1191
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 1: We have one Bosa who already shows up half the time. Anyway,

1192
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: we don't really need another one, but thanks. He's a

1193
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: part timer. Rams a thrilling twenty to seventeen overtime win

1194
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: over the Bears. I know you guys have heard me

1195
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: talk about how my wife watches sports, and like when

1196
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: it's a team that she cheers for, she gets freaked

1197
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: out when things start to go bad.

1198
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 2: So she is a Rams fan.

1199
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: Mostly because most of us we live in Los Angeles,

1200
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: Like she grew up in northern California.

1201
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 2: If we still lived up there, she.

1202
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: Wouldn't, he said it, really, But so the whole week

1203
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: she was nervous.

1204
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 2: She's like, it's gonna be terrible weather. The Rams are

1205
00:54:58,920 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 2: gonna lose.

1206
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I think they're gonna win, you know whatever.

1207
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: But it was obviously was close, back and forth, and

1208
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: she was like freaking out the whole time.

1209
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 2: And then on the Caleb.

1210
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: Throw, the run around throw a touchdown to Cole Comet,

1211
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: she paused it and she's like it's over.

1212
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:13,919
Speaker 2: We're gonna lose.

1213
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, you don't know that, like it's probably good overtime.

1214
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: So she made me leave the room, like I'm gonna

1215
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: go somewhere else and watch.

1216
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 2: She's like, well don't.

1217
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: She's like, turn the volume down and don't react to

1218
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: turn the volume down and don't react to anything.

1219
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right.

1220
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: So I just sat there like just watching the game, like,

1221
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: you know, enjoying myself, having a good time. As somebody

1222
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 1: who was a neutral observer. It was an entertaining game

1223
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: to watch. So then finally when Mivs kicks the field

1224
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: goal and the Rams win, I was just.

1225
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 2: Like Rams win. She's like, are you kidding me? I'm like, no,

1226
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding you.

1227
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: As sot as she watched overtime, she like unpaused the

1228
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: television and.

1229
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 2: Watched it over time watch the rest of it.

1230
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 1: I was like that enjoy anyway. That being said, look

1231
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: at the bare side of things.

1232
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 2: I'm Flora.

1233
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,439
Speaker 1: You've talked about Caleb and the variance in his week

1234
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: to week performances, right, Like, the ceiling is high and

1235
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: absolutely week winning. The floor is low and can crush

1236
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: you on any given week. But we're also prisoners of

1237
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 1: the last thing we saw from a player. So how

1238
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: much were we going to overdraft Caleb Williams after what

1239
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: he did in the playoffs.

1240
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 4: I will say I've seen Adam Rank already kind of

1241
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 4: fighting battles, calling for bear regressions next season and stuff

1242
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 4: like that because they kind of they overperformed a little bit.

1243
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 4: But I don't even know if it's going to be

1244
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 4: the playoffs because I personally feel like the playoffs largely

1245
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 4: get forgotten, like once we get to the draft, and

1246
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 4: what I think it's gonna be more of is people

1247
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 4: are gonna be like, Caleb finishes a top six fantasy

1248
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 4: quarterback and they're gonna forget the week to week variants

1249
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 4: and how boom or bust he kind of was. But

1250
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 4: to me, and I know I say this kind of

1251
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 4: yearly with quarterbacks, but I look at it right, like

1252
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 4: to me that there's a top tier of Allen Lamar,

1253
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 4: I think you could put Joe Burrow in there, Drake

1254
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 4: may I still have Jaden Daniels in that group. Then

1255
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 4: there's like Hurts and Dart, who are I think going

1256
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 4: to be top seven ranked quarterbacks coming into next season.

1257
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 4: And then there's a huge blob with names like Herbert Dak,

1258
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 4: Lawrence Purdy, Caleb, Stafford, Nicks Love GoF like it.

1259
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 2: To me, that is a big tier.

1260
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 4: And people are going to put them in whichever order

1261
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 4: they want.

1262
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 2: But like, they all.

1263
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 4: Kind of are very similar in the sense of they

1264
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 4: all could finish top twelve. I don't think really any

1265
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 4: of them could finish Top two or three because they

1266
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 4: don't run enough and stuff. But so to me, that's

1267
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 4: kind of the tier where I think Caleb's gonna live

1268
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 4: in that some people might have him QB eight, some

1269
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 4: people might have him QB thirteen.

1270
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 2: Nothing like that would surprise me.

1271
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: I really do hope though, that we have been able

1272
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: to sort of I guess Sam look at the big

1273
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: picture with guys, and I say that you talk about

1274
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: people like ignoring the playoffs. I remember after the Joe

1275
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: Flacco twenty twelve playoff run, right, he throws eleven touchdown

1276
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: passes no interceptions, Ravens wins Super Bowl. I remember like

1277
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: the next season sort of telling people, hey, like, don't

1278
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: get too caught up in what that playoff run was.

1279
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: It was amazing, but that's just not who Joe Flacco is.

1280
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: And at the time now, granted that was fourteen years ago,

1281
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:24,959
Speaker 1: a lifetime ago.

1282
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: I got a lot of pushback. People are like, you're crazy.

1283
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, man, Like you know because even

1284
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: that season he threw twenty two touchdown passes, had ten picks.

1285
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: The next year he threw nineteen touchdowns and had twenty

1286
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: two interceptions.

1287
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 2: Right Like, don't get too hung up on the playoff run.

1288
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: Like those throws Caleb made, That one he made against

1289
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: the Packers on fourth down, the one he made to

1290
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: get the game to overtime against the Rams were incredible plays,

1291
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: incredible throws, and he has the ability to do that

1292
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: on occasion. I'm looking for the consistency. That's what we

1293
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: haven't seen from Caleb.

1294
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 2: You know.

1295
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: I think he's prepared. I think he's ready to make

1296
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: the leap. I said he was gonna go for four

1297
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: thousand yards this year. He came up just short. I'll

1298
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: double down and say it happens next year. Like I'm

1299
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: ready to I'm willing to go out and make that proclamation. Uh,

1300
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: I just need the week to week consistency.

1301
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 4: Can Can I just read something to you guys real

1302
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 4: quick that I just saw pop up. We were talking

1303
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 4: about coaches and stuff like that. Giants GM Joe Sheen says,

1304
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 4: him and Harbor will work collaboratively, with Harboro having the

1305
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 4: final say just being something that says on paper.

1306
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean they already admitted that John Harbaugh is

1307
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: going to report directly to ownership.

1308
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 4: Like that's how it was with McDermott and Bean. How

1309
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 4: could that go wrong? You know? I mean.

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Speaker 1: That's that's them telling Joe Shane a man, just be

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Speaker 1: happy you still have keys to the building.

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Speaker 4: Like, Bro, you let me walk.

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Speaker 2: That's that's what this is.

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Speaker 3: Just Jones, go out there and have success in Indie walk.

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Speaker 2: You let taque walk to your biggest rive.

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Speaker 4: Who then went to one of the super Bowl records

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Speaker 4: on you?

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Speaker 2: Bro?

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Speaker 4: Are you speaking right now?

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01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 2: That's Are you sure? That's it? Wow? You should mete up,

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Speaker 2: meet up.

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Speaker 1: Back to the Bears real quick, mcgab before you wrap

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01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: this one up. What is too early for Colston Loveland?

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01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 3: Because we have him in our top five? I think

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01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 3: all consensus between three of us we had him in

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01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 3: the top five, right, Like, am I wrong to somebody?

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01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 2: I think so? No, I think he was.

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01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 4: I got him at five.

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01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 3: So if we're gonna be honest with ourselves, like I

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01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 3: do think that he starts to get pushed up. I

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01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 3: do think that folks would start getting really excited with

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01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 3: the training camp videos and all the buzz, and we

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01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 3: already seen the Cole Comets stands kind of just get buried,

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01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 3: Like I feel like it's transferring to Colston Loveland. Like

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01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 3: I don't want to get too crazy, so I think

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01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 3: too high to me is in the top three rounds.

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01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 3: Like I'm okay taking him in the fourth and fifth.

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01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 3: And with that being said, that's kind of like the

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01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 3: area where you should already establish like your main staples

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01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 3: and your wide receiver and running back right or even

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01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 3: if you want to take a quarterback that early. I

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01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 3: don't know, but four, five, six is kind of where

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01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 3: I think he should live because again the inconsistency with Caleb,

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01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 3: the games that he kind of disappears where I don't

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01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 3: even think Colston Lovin had like a huge game in

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01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 3: the playoffs where we can sit there and push him

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01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 3: up and say, hey, this is going to be a

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01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 3: top three, you know tight end where we could take

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01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 3: him in the top three rounds.

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01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 2: Do we have a first round tight end this year? Florio?

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01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 2: Is there one? I mean it would be wait in

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01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: the draft or like it's like yeah, in like this

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01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 2: year when.

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01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: We start drafting, is there anybody that you think is gonna.

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01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 2: Get pulled up to the first round.

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01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 4: Trey McBride, I would not be surprised if he ends

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01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 4: up in that range, depending on who's going.

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01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 2: To be the quarterback and stuff like that. But we

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01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 2: have two years.

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01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 4: In a row where Trey McBride has put up top

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01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 4: five wide receiver numbers and you get it at the

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01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 4: thinnest position, So I'm not gonna knock that. Brock Bauers

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01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 4: to me, feels like a second round, third round guy.

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01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 4: I'll be honest, there's not another type then I would

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01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 4: take until round five. And like, I'm cool with making

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01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 4: Colston Loveland the tight end three if that's how you

1367
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 4: want to rank it and stuff, but I'm not taking

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01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 4: him in the third or fourth round. To me, like

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01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 4: that just feels like wish casting and leaving high end

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01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 4: proven talent at other positions there. So maybe my team

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01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 4: completely changes by August. We got nine months to figure

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01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 4: this all out. But uh, as of today, even like

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01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 4: Tucker Craft, who I really like as a player, Like,

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01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 4: to me, if I'm not getting a Bowers or McBride,

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01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 4: I'm probably waiting until the middle rounds to take a tight.

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01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 2: D Yeah, that's probably fair.

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01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: I think I was thinking like before, I'm with you, Lakwan,

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01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it before the third round four. Their

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01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: fifth feels a little more reasonable. For Colston Loveland, I.

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01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 3: Can understand it. I wouldn't personally take him in the

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01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 3: fourth like that five to six area maybe, you know,

1382
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 3: like that's where I think he should live. But of

1383
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 3: course you know the fantasy streets are going to do

1384
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 3: the opposite.

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01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: Well, and all look, all takes is one right, one

1386
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: person to just to draft him early and suddenly then

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01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, well crap, if that's where if

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01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: that's where he's going, then I got to make the move.

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01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 4: And that's how some home leagues, you might get the

1390
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 4: trade McBride, you might get the Bowers in the first

1391
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 4: two rounds, and then folks tend to follow those trends,

1392
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 4: Like I've been in plenty of leagues where I've seen

1393
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 4: the tight end run go crazy, where folks start to

1394
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 4: panic like, oh my god, I gotta get a tight end.

1395
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 4: And then here we are with Colston Lovelan going in

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01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 4: the back in the second round.

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01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: And that's that's what happens when there's like five guys

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01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: maybe that you feel confident with, right, Yeah, two of

1399
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: them go and everybody else freaks out and then that's

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01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 1: that's the rest of them gone.

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01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tucker Craft, I am targeting like that's gonna be

1402
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 3: my tight end this year that I know what's going

1403
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 3: to fall. I know he's gonna fall. Yeah, he's going

1404
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 3: to fall outside the top five. I would say the top.

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01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 4: Five is the top five tight end in the early

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01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 4: run for us. But folks are like consensus. I pulled

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01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 4: up consensus right now, and okay, tight end.

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01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 3: Five, where's the porter Because he's another one seven, he's

1409
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 3: got gonna go up.

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01:03:58,720 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 2: I think that goes up.

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01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 4: Like this consensus has Colson Loveland in Tier one with

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01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 4: McBride and I'm using fantasy pros consensus right now, but

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01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 4: it has Loveland in the same tier as mcbridan Bowers.

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01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 2: That is just crazy to me.

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01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 1: I disagree. I just see that's no. But that's that's scarcity.

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01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: That's that's because that's because of who's not there, right, Because.

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01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 4: I'll wait, I'll take a dalkink to Jake Ferguson, uh Gatson,

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01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 4: Like if.

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01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 2: I could get those guys rounds later. I'd rather do.

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01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 3: That personally, I'll take a rookie who falls into a

1421
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 3: Titan friendly offense.

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01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 4: Let's just put it that way. I'm not doing it.

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01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: You're going three years in a row, were years in

1424
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: a row.

1425
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 4: I need to I need to know who I'm going to.

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01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 4: I'll take Isaiah likely when he's the giant starter next year.

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01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, a plenty of time, of course too, to

1428
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 2: dive into all this. We got plenty of off season

1429
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 2: to get into. But back on Thursday with you as.

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01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: We will preview the championship games in the NFC and

1431
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: the af C. I'm sure we'll probably have some more

1432
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: coaching news too that happens between now and then as well.

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01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 2: But in the meantime, that'll do it for.

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01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: This edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Say happy, saved, healthy,

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01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: do good, and live well. Enjoy your green tea and

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Speaker 1: your robes. We'll talk to you again on Thursday.