1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to Aaron Menkey's Cabinet of Curiosities, a production of 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Grim and Mild. Our world is 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: full of the unexplainable, and if history is an open book, 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: all of these amazing tales are right there on display, 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: just waiting for us to explore. Welcome to the Cabinet 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: of Curiosities. Human psychology has been an important topic of 7 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 1: study for centuries. The ancient Greeks and Egyptians had their 8 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: schools of thought on it, as did the people in 9 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: ancient India and China. It wasn't until the nineteenth century, though, 10 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: when psychological research turned from the philosophical to the experimental. 11 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: German psychologist Gustav Fechner started testing the human brains response 12 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: to various stimuli around eighteen thirties. From their experts such 13 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: as Herman Ebbinghouse went on to study other functions of 14 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: the mind, from memory to introspection to classical conditioning. Psychology 15 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: became a bustling industry of experimentation. Eventually, scientists didn't just 16 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: want to learn the limits of the brain. They wanted 17 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: to understand what made people tick. Why were some individuals 18 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: able to say no while others were more pleasers. Stanley 19 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: Milgram of Yale University tested this in his famous Milgram 20 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: experiment in nineteen sixty one. He invited participants to administer 21 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: electric shocks to someone in another room. As the shocks 22 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: increased in power, the screams of the unknown party got 23 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: louder and more intense until they stopped completely. But don't worry, 24 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: nobody died. The electric shocks weren't even real, but the 25 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: effects on the subjects pushing the buttons certainly were. Milgram 26 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: wanted to test how far a person would go in 27 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,639 Speaker 1: following orders from an authority figure, even if those orders 28 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: involved hurting or and killing someone else. He based his 29 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: experiment on the actions of the Nazis during World War Two. 30 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: The Stanford Prison Experiment of nineteen seventy one took things 31 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: further by placing college students in a simulated prison environment. 32 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: The purpose was to study how power affected one psychological state. 33 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: One group of students was given the title of guard, 34 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: while another subset was placed in the prisoner role. Three 35 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: guards were pulled out of the experiment early after demonstrating 36 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: what we're described as genuine sadistic tendencies. The prisoners also suffered. 37 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: They were referred to by numbers rather than their names. 38 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: They were stripped, naked and sprayed with a hose. In short, 39 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: they were humiliated. The two week experiment was terminated after 40 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: just six days. Still, despite the prison experiments failings, researchers 41 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: wanted to understand how people thought and why they slid 42 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: into certain roles instead of others. Well. One man thought 43 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: that he could find the answer, and in order to 44 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: get there, he had to think bigger by thinking smaller. 45 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: John Calhoun was born in Tennessee in nineteen seventeen. He 46 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: spent his years in college studying rats. In nineteen forty six, 47 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: he started working at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore on 48 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: something called the rodent Ecology Project. This involved monitoring a 49 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: colony of rats in a ten thousand square foot pen 50 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: behind his house. Calhoun believed the rats with thrive, with 51 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: five females capable of producing up to five thousand pups 52 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: over the two years. Yet, as he watched over his 53 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: little rat metropolis, he noticed something. The numbers never got 54 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: that high, nowhere close. Once the population reached about two hundred, 55 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: they stopped reproducing. The rats soon became agitated. They fought 56 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: with each other and segregated themselves into dozens of colonies, 57 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: each comprised of twelve rats. He found that they couldn't 58 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: live peacefully in higher numbers. Calhoun decided to expand his operation. 59 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: He constructed a new rat city, this time on the 60 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: second floor of a are and where his lab was located. 61 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: This new enclosure was comprised of four rooms, each ten 62 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: ft by fourteen feet clustered together. The rooms were then 63 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: subdivided further into quarters by two foot walls, and the 64 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: rats inside were viewable via a window in each room's ceiling. 65 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: These rats had much more room to move and were 66 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: never at a loss for food or drink, Yet they 67 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: still ran into the same problems as in the original experiment. 68 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: As populations filled the space, they inevitably collapsed. Calhoun attempted 69 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: one more time to see what would happen if a 70 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: group of rodents were given free rein over a large 71 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: property in night. With assistance from the National Institute of 72 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: Mental Health, he constructed a nine foot square habitat measuring 73 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: four and a half feet high. There were tunnels made 74 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: of wire mesh along the sides of the enclosure that 75 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: led to the feeding and drinking stations. As well as 76 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 1: the living quarters. He called this space universe. This time, 77 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: Calhoun performed his study on mice rather than rats, and 78 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: the results were promising. At first, every two months the 79 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,239 Speaker 1: number of mice would double. Ten months in his initial 80 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: population of eight mice now totaled six hundred and twenty 81 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: and just as before, the faster they reproduced, the faster 82 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: everything spiraled downward. Older mice had trouble finding mates. They 83 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: also found themselves displaced in the community. Lone females occupied 84 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: nesting boxes by themselves, far from the rest of the group, 85 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: while mateless males congregated at the feeding stations. They became 86 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: hostile and anxious. Mouse families, on the other hand, saw 87 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: their neighborhoods struggling and moved their families to better areas, 88 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: sometimes more than once. And, just as had happened with 89 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: the rats, reproduction stopped, Calhoun's mouse utopia quickly devolved into 90 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: a full blown dystopia. The findings worried him. If rats 91 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: and mice couldn't handle high population density, how are humans 92 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: going to deal with overcrowding in their cities and towns. 93 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: An area with no job prospects or potential mates couldn't 94 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: sustain itself. But others didn't agree with his findings. Medical 95 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: historian and professor Edmund Ramsden noted that rats lack the 96 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 1: ability to cope the way that humans could in a 97 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: similar environment. Psychologist Jonathan Freedman determined that it wasn't the 98 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: lack of mates or social rules, but a lack of 99 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: personal space that had done the rodents in. Those who 100 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: had been able to secure their own corners of universe 101 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: twenty five away from everyone else hadn't turned hostile at all. 102 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: Regardless of Calhoun's results, there was one other important byproduct 103 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: of his work, a book. It was about a group 104 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: of rats who had learned to read and build machines 105 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: they'd been experimented on at the National Institute of Mental 106 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: Health before living free in the wild. Published in nineteen 107 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: seventy one, Mrs Frisbee and the Rats of Nim by 108 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: Robert C. O'Brien was inspired by Calhoun's research. It went 109 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: on to become a popular film in nineteen eighty two 110 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: called The Secrets of Nim. John Calhoun did his best 111 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: to show that rats and humans were cut for him 112 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: the same cloth, and in a lot of ways we 113 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: are in the end, though he also proved that humans 114 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: aren't part of a rat race. No matter what's thrown 115 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: at us, we often persevere, but of course we both 116 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: love cheese. Losing something important can throw off your whole day. 117 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: Misplace your keys and suddenly you're off to work ten 118 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: minutes later than you thought. You're stuck in traffic and 119 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: half an hour late for work, and a missing receipts 120 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: can be the difference between a refund at the store 121 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: and getting stuck with something that you ended up not wanting. 122 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: Losing a set of keys may feel like the end 123 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: of the world at the time, but it really isn't. 124 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: Losing a couple of atomic bombs, however, that might actually 125 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: be the end of the world, or at least the 126 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: Eastern Seaboard. Following the close of World War Two, the 127 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: nineteen fifties saw the eyes of a brand new front, 128 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: the Cold War. America and the Soviet Union were at 129 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: odds over various political and economic philosophies, putting the one 130 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: time allies on opposing sides. In the United States, schools 131 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: practiced air raid drills, and anticipation of the Big One, 132 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: children were told to hide under their desks, believing it 133 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: would protect them from a nuclear blast. Meanwhile, a nuclear 134 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: arms race was underway. It was fairly common for US 135 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: Air Force planes to carry bombs and bomb parts across 136 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: the ocean from one base to another, and on July 137 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty seven, a C one four Globe Master in 138 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: Delaware was loaded up with three Mark five nuclear bombs 139 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: and one nuclear capsule. The bombs themselves were safe to fly. 140 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: They had been placed in c AF or complete assembly 141 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: for fairy condition, which meant each bomb lacked the core 142 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: necessary for a nuclear explosion, although they still retained a 143 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: significant amount of explosives inside their casings. Once the cores 144 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: were eventually inserted and the bombs dropped, the explode sims 145 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: would compress the cores and kick off a nuclear reaction. 146 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: The C one twenty four was also known as Old Shaky, 147 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: not the best name for an airplane carrying nuclear weapons. 148 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: Despite the humorous nickname, it was a solid vessel, weighing 149 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: in at one seventy five thousand pounds and powered by 150 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: four massive piston engines. Old Shaky took off from Dover 151 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: Air Force Base on a routine trip to deliver the 152 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: three bombs to another base in Europe. Unfortunately, it ran 153 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: into trouble almost immediately. Shortly after takeoff. Two of the 154 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 1: c engines failed. The other two engines were running at 155 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: full power, enough to prevent the plane from plummeting into 156 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: the ocean, but it was a losing battle. It was 157 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: just too heavy to stay up, and even with the 158 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: bombs lacking a nuclear core, there was still enough explosive 159 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: power inside them to cause severe damage, especially since the 160 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: nuclear capsule was on board with them. The crew had 161 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: to jettison weight fast. They most likely ejected the excess 162 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: fuel they would have needed for their transatlantic flight. Luckily, 163 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: there was a naval air station in Atlantic City, New Jersey, 164 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: where they could land. Yet, even with most of their 165 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: fuel gone, they were still too heavy. A crew in 166 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 1: such a situation might have tried making a crash landing 167 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: in the ocean. Had the Sea One two attempted that, 168 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: though it could have killed everyone on board and set 169 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: off the bombs, they made a drastic call and decided 170 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: to drop one of the Mark five bombs. It hit 171 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: the water from a height of forty feet, about seventy 172 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: five miles off the coast of New Jersey. Even that 173 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: wasn't enough though they jettisoned another bomb at feet the 174 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: plane still sinking in altitude. This last one landed fifty 175 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: miles offshore. Old Shaky stopped shaking that even doubts, and 176 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: the crew was able to maintain altitude all the way 177 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: to the air station. Despite dropping both bombs from significant heights, 178 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: neither one exploded Once word of the plane's mishap got out, 179 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: though recovery teams were assembled immediately to search for the 180 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: missing weapons, but the bombs were never found. For over 181 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: sixty years, they have resided just off the coast of 182 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: the Jersey Shore, waiting to be discovered. Residents of Atlantic 183 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: City weren't worried, though they'd had no idea the incident 184 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: had taken place at all. The military kept it under 185 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: wraps for over twenty years. The bombs eventually showed up 186 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: as line items on a list of broken arrows or 187 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: lost nuclear weapons published by the government in the nineteen eighties. 188 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: And there's an important lesson there, because when it comes 189 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: to unexploded nuclear weapons, no news is always good news. 190 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: I hope you've enjoyed today's guided tour of the Cabinet 191 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: of Curiosities. Subscribe for free on Apple podcasts, or learn 192 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: more about the show by visiting Curiosities podcast dot com. 193 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: The show was created by me Aaron Manky in partnership 194 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: with how Stuff Works. 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