1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Bin Laden's letter to America going viral over twenty years 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: since it initially was circulating and published. This is this 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: is quite a situation that is unfolding here. First, let's 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: let's go to this. TikTok has become the social media 5 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: website of choice for gen Z in America. I think 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: that's that's clear at this point. And if you look 7 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: at TikTok, there's a lot of pro Hamas stuff all 8 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: over the place, and particularly sympathy for you know, place 9 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: didn't cause Hamas all the rest of it. Well, what 10 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: you're now seeing are people who have started to look 11 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: for rationalizations of what Hamas has done. And this this 12 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: is now going viral. The bin Laden letter. He wrote 13 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: it a year after the September eleventh attacks, and it 14 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: was circulating among jihadists online and including in the UK, 15 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: where I believe the Guardian published it. And now the 16 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: Guardian has pulled it down as I'm speaking to you, 17 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: and they're saying they're redirectoring people from the letter to 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: a news story. I'm gonna tell you what's really going 19 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: on with that in a second, but just to give 20 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: you a sense of it, these are young people, okay, 21 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: and they seem to be overwhelmingly America, And I mean 22 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: maybe some of them are abroad somewhere, but these are 23 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: young people, early twenties, mid twenties, who with all that's 24 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: going on, and with these big protests and the DNS, 25 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: the little riot outside the DNC last night by Hama sympathizers, 26 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: with all that's happening, they're like, you know, bin Laden, Yeah, 27 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: he kind of had a point, They're saying in this 28 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: listen to some of this play nine. I read Osama 29 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,279 Speaker 1: bin Laden's letter to America, and if. 30 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: You have read it, let me know if you are 31 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: also going through an existential crisis in this very moment, 32 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: because in the last twenty minutes, my entire viewpoint on 33 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: the entire life I have believed and I have lived 34 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: has changed. 35 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 3: This has left me very disillusioned, and I feel the 36 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 3: same exact way I felt when I was deconstructing Christianity. 37 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 3: I feel a little bit just confused, like I have 38 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: entered into another timeline. 39 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: What is this? 40 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 4: In reading the letter, I could only think of this tweet. 41 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 4: But I saw the other day under Setner colonialism, any 42 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,839 Speaker 4: kind of resistance is branded as terrorists because the only 43 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 4: acceptable violence is violence by the occupier. 44 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 5: The way this letter is going viral right now is 45 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 5: giving me the greatest sense of relief. If you're Muslim 46 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 5: and you've lived in the US since nine to eleven, 47 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 5: you know more truth than the typical citizen. Now it's 48 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,279 Speaker 5: all coming to light because of Palestine. 49 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 6: Reading this letter, it becomes apparent to me that the 50 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 6: actions of nine to eleven and those acts committed against 51 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 6: the USA and its people were all just the build 52 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 6: up of our government failing other nations. 53 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: Let me tell you, I joined the CIA because of 54 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: the nine to eleven attacks and Osama, bin Lauden and 55 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: al Kaya. Okay, so it was something that had a 56 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: major shift in the not just trajectory of my life, 57 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: but of course of America and of the world. But 58 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: for me, this does bring back very specific memories and 59 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: does feel quite personal. Bin Laden was an Islamic supremacist 60 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: and a psychopath. Okay, part of what they're not talking 61 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: about in this letter, because there's they're saying, oh bin Laden, 62 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: and you'll hear this from people. He just was opposed 63 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: to US bases in the Middle East and the treatment 64 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: of the Palestinians, and you know, cites a few other things. 65 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: Oh no, but he also cites, you know, homosexuality, He 66 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: cites the decadence of the West. He cites a whole 67 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: bunch of things that they won't talk about as reasons 68 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: for why we need to be attacked and destroyed. But 69 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: if you really want to get a sense as to why, 70 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: is bin Ladenism, which is just another version. He's just 71 00:03:55,600 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: one leader within the militant Islamic framework, right, I mean 72 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: he's just you go you look at oh who is 73 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: i'manel Zwakari. I'manel Zwahari. His number two was a Muslim 74 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: Brotherhood leader, Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas lots of connections there. 75 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: You start to see all these different entities and organizations. 76 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 1: They are Islamic supremacist entities, meaning that there are only 77 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: two kinds of society. There is the land of Islam, 78 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: the dahal Islam, and the land of war, the Dar 79 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: al Harb, meaning you can do whatever you want to 80 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: do because they're the bad guys, they're the infidels. So 81 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: this people I think I've forgotten and this younger generation, 82 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of you listening to this are veterans, 83 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: and you know you saw the evil in Iraq and Afghanistan. 84 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: Of the Islamic supremacists. You saw what militant islam jihadism. 85 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: It's it's a viciousness with no end. It's a death 86 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: cult like Amas, like Amas. You see, this all actually 87 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: ties together. And this is why wait Hamas is a 88 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: a resistance organization, right and it's it's different than al Qaida. 89 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: It's really not. It's not. And that's why all of 90 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: a sudden, the people who like Jamas are saying, maybe 91 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: bin Laden had a point. Under bin Laden's framework, first 92 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: of all, he just if you read the whole letter, 93 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: and if you read if you read Jihadis writing in general, 94 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: they absolutely hate Jews. They they the most vile and 95 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: severe and extreme anti semitism imaginable. I mean anti Semitism 96 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: sounds like too gentle of a term. Islamic supremacists hate Jews, 97 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: all of them, all of them. They have been trained 98 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: to do so. They think it is central to their theology. 99 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: And they will cite Hadith, they will cite their own 100 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: version of scripture in support of this. And that is 101 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: true across the board. It's true of Isis, it's true 102 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: of al Kaida in Iraq, it's true of Boko Haram, 103 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: it's true of Hamas, it's true of Hesbellah. Name me 104 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: a group al Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb, al Shabab 105 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: in Somalia. Find me a terrorist organization that is jihadist, 106 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: and I will show you people who hate the Jews, 107 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: even if on the other side of the world, Moro 108 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: Islamic Liberation Front, you know, go over to the Philippines, 109 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: go over to some of the jihadist entities that are 110 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: a little more off the radar, they hate Jews too. 111 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: Why is that, Oh, because of Palestine, you see, because 112 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,799 Speaker 1: of Palastine. They're all trained to care so much about 113 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: this very small piece of land. There's a lot of 114 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: other things that they could be focused on, but now 115 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: they're all told you know, whether it's terrorists in terrorists 116 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: in Indonesia, very upset about what's going on in Palestine. 117 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: They're all told this. They all believe this. But if 118 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: you look at what bin Laden's belief system actually is 119 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: for the people saying, oh, he just doesn't want military 120 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: basis off the US in the land of the Two 121 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,679 Speaker 1: Holy Cities, idiocy, It is idiocy all over the place. 122 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: He justifies the attack on anyone in any Western society 123 00:06:55,120 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: at any level, any age, any involvement. Meaning you're upset 124 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: about what's going on with the Palestinians, Nuca City. If 125 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: you can, you get your hands on a nuclear weapon, 126 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: destroy New York, destroy London, kill everybody, justify it. And 127 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: you say, well, whole honesty, how could that be just 128 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's whoa, that's oppression of the Palestinians, so 129 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: much historical oppression of the Palestinians. There is no outer 130 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: limit to this because it is a death cult. And 131 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: once you start to understand that mentality, once you start 132 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: to see what they really believe, you recognize you go, 133 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: oh my god, how do how do we deal with 134 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: these people? Well, the way the IDF is dealing with 135 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: them now, which is hunt them down and kill them 136 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,679 Speaker 1: or put them in incarceration for life. That's it. People 137 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: who are true believers in Hamas, those are your options, 138 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: or else they're going to come and kill you again 139 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: because it is central to their identity. I mean, sure, 140 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: you could talk about deradicalization, and I trust me, I've 141 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: I was familiar with some of the deradicalization programs that 142 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: various governments have. They are overwhelmingly failures. But you can 143 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: try that, but it's generally not going to work, and 144 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: in the meantime you risk another attack like what we've 145 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: just seen. But think about this. You have young people today, 146 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: this is going viral. It's all over the place. You 147 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: have young people today who are finding what they think 148 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: is truth and expressing solidarity with Osama bin Laden. And 149 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: it all lines up because what have I been saying 150 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: on this show for weeks now, You have seen Hamas 151 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: has shown beyond a doubt that it is morally on 152 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: the same plane that it is equivalent to al Qaeda. 153 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: Ices go down the list. It's no different, it's no different. 154 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: It is soaked in hatred of the Jews, soaked in 155 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: hatred of the West, in fact built on a foundation 156 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: of those hatreds, and ultimately is one of the most 157 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: toxic mentalities that exists in any society at any time 158 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: in history, which is a constant loop of victimization that 159 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: can be used to justify anything. And you see this, 160 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: what you have is the Palestinians are held up by 161 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: the Islamic world. There's the ultimate victims, more victimized than 162 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: any other people in history, more victimized than the Jews, 163 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: which would seem completely insane to anybody who has even 164 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: the faintest knowledge of twentieth century history and the Second 165 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: World War. But oh, that's right, you know, Hamost denize 166 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: all that. That's also a part of the hottest ideology 167 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: is we're sitting here saying, oh, bin Laden had a point. 168 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: Yeah they didn't. Of course they deny the Holocaust. Of 169 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: course they deny the oppression against the Jewish people because 170 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: they have to be the Palestinians, have to be the 171 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: ultimate victims. And therefore any insufficiency in any Muslim society 172 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: anywhere in the world, or that any individual Muslim may feel, 173 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: or any leftist here in America, some blue haired white 174 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: kid who feels like, you know, oh I'm not you know, 175 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: I don't have a cause. I'm going to be the 176 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: one who links up arms with the Palestinian causts because 177 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: they're the ultimate victims. And instead of looking inward and 178 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: thinking what am I doing in my life, what am 179 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: I doing in my society, or what is my society 180 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: really about? That is a failure. It's oh, I just 181 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: care about this. I care so much about this issue. 182 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: Half a million people died in the Syrian Civil War, 183 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: Muslim world was like, yeah, let them fight it out. 184 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: One hundred thousand children have died in the Many War 185 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: civil war with the Huthis. As long as it's Muslims 186 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: killing other Muslims. The Islamic world feels very differently about this, 187 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: as in it's generally indifferent, generally indifferent. But if Jews 188 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: want to live in peace in Israel, no, no, somehow, 189 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: that's always a negotiation that has to Why is that 190 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: a negotiation? I think fortunately the voices of sanity here 191 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: in the West recognize that there can be no negotiation 192 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: with these barbarians. I've seen what their negotiations end up with, 193 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: and look like many of you who have served overseas 194 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: know exactly what I'm talking about. It is a death 195 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: cult and they will destroy as many lives as they 196 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: possibly can in the pursuit of a goal that they 197 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: will never attain because they have been brainwashed into thinking 198 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: that even as they are taking life from innocence, they 199 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: are the victims history, even if nothing has happened to them. 200 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, don't you realize. Don't you realize what 201 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: happened to the Muslim people who lived here? One hundred 202 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: years ago, five hundred years ago, a thousand years ago. 203 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 1: It's never ending. It never ends. And that's why these 204 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: people who are saying bin Laden had some good ideas well. 205 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: He has some good ideas. If you want to just 206 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: completely surrender Western civilization, basic human freedom and dignity, if 207 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: you want the end of the entire liberal canon, and 208 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: I mean liberal as in small level, as in people 209 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: having liberty and people having dignity, you better just submit 210 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 1: right now. You better bend the knee. Then bin Laden 211 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: would be fine with you, and you better, of course 212 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: convert or pay the jizia, which is the special tax 213 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: for the second class citizens who are effectively treated like 214 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: cows to be milked. But that's a whole other part 215 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: of Islamic history that you won't really learn about it 216 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: in school. I wonder why that is dimitude, the second 217 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: class citizen status where if you don't actually pay the 218 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: special tax, which could be crippling depending on the society 219 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: we're talking about, you could be killed. That's the version 220 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: of living peaceably in these societies historically. But again, I 221 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: can't go over all the history today, but I just 222 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: wanted to give you some sense as to why It 223 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: is completely insane and deeply immoral, but shows you really 224 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: what we're dealing with here. Who is on the left 225 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: and what do they believe. They like hamas and they're 226 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: kind of open to the whole al Qaeda thing too, 227 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: some interesting ideas. That's what they are saying, and make 228 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: note of it.