1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian and oil change is still the single most 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: important thing you can do to the car felt rising. 3 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: It's pretty rude souls like Sky the car Doctor. I 4 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: don't care what the dealer tells you. I don't care 5 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: what your father told you. I don't care what you 6 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: think you know. Trust me, and oil change is still 7 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: just that important. Welcome to the radio home of Ron 8 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: Andanian the Car Doctor. Since this is where car owners 9 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 10 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 11 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: the phone and call in the garage to orders are open. 12 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: But I am here to take your call at A 13 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: five five five six and now thank you, Thank you 14 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: very much. He running, Hey, wasn't that my line? Hi? 15 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: Ron and any in the Car Doctor here? Eight five 16 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: five five zero nine nine zero zero is the phone 17 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: number call now getting on the Car Doctor hotline. That 18 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: seven number. I should point out once again as always 19 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: that the eight five five five zero nine nine zero 20 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: zero is seven. It's there. If we're not on the air, 21 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: We're live Saturday afternoons two to four pm Eastern time. 22 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: But if you call outside of show time, fast Terry 23 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: our executive producer emeritus in Abstentia. He's off on vacation 24 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: this week. We'll give you a call and uh set 25 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: you up in the lineup for the following week's show 26 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: as we talked to you about your car problem. That's 27 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: really what we like to do. That's what this radio 28 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: shows about. We want to get you up on air 29 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: and don't be nervous, it's just radio and um we'll 30 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: talk to you about your problem because we want to 31 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: educate everybody about it and get everybody involved, because we 32 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of education that needs to be 33 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: done in this industry. Obviously. Uh, you know the day 34 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: I retire as the day I guess when we won't 35 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: need to fix cars anymore, which Tony is looking at 36 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: me shaking his head going uh so it's uh not 37 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: anytime soon. More information about his Car Doctor Show dot 38 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: com also links there at to various places. Of course, 39 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: we podcast We've made podcasting available for you and you 40 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: can get it anyone of a number of places tune 41 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: in my Heart, iTunes, google Play, and you can get 42 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: out to our website Car Doctor Show dot com and 43 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: find links to all of those podcasting sources, as well 44 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: as other things going on about the radio show. But 45 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: we are here to talk to you about your problem. Listen, 46 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 1: if you're a newbie and you're just turning on the 47 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: radio for the first time, here is the deal. I've 48 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: been fixing cars since well, I've been fixing cars longer 49 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: than I have been fixing cars, about forty three going 50 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: on forty four years now. I started out as a 51 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: kid at sixteen, and uh here I am, uh just 52 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: moving into my sixth decade here on the planet. So 53 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: you guys do the math and figure it out. But 54 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: it's all about what I see in the shop, what 55 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: I go through, and you know, I'll tell you things 56 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: I like, tell you things I don't like, and that 57 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: we can talk about it and um, you know, kind 58 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: of come to some kind of a conclusion. But I'm 59 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: really just here to talk to you about your car 60 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: and just help you fix it. That's really what this 61 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: show is about. I was wondering this week. It was 62 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: vacation week. We were closed the shop this week and 63 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: give everybody off and we all went in our own directions. 64 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: And I like vacation week. It gives you a chance 65 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: to kind of reflect and pause and recharge and rejuvenate. 66 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: And I couldn't help because we did a staycation. We 67 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 1: stayed home, but you know, just just worked around the 68 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: house and caught up on things and you know, just stuff. 69 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: And I couldn't help. But notice as I drove around here, 70 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: New Jersey and you know that's where we are, that 71 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: you can see the end of the industry or it's changing, 72 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: maybe change is a better word. And I was really 73 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: thinking about this. You know, who's going to be the 74 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: last man standing? And by that I mean somewhere fifty 75 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: to seventy five years in the future when they look 76 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: back in the early part of the twenty one century, 77 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna say, hey, remember an auto repair shop? Wow? 78 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: You know, And you can sit there and shake your 79 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: head and say, no, that will never happen. Really, how's 80 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: Blockbuster doing right? How's horn and Hardoart? Horn and hard Heart? 81 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: Do you automatic? If you're a New York City kid right? Well, 82 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: can put a nickel on the counter, they slide that 83 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: sandwich with a little glass door, and you start thinking 84 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: about all the businesses that have gone away, and you 85 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: say to yourself, maybe you ought to repair. Isn't such 86 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: a un impossibility, but what would that look like? And 87 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: I just think, who's gonna be the last man standing. 88 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: One of the things I noticed is every jerk in 89 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: the last twenty years it's had a repair shop. And 90 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: I drove past, whether it was a five store chain 91 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: to break specialist, the guy who was going to do 92 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: the oil change cheaper than everybody, the guy who was 93 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: gonna do tires cheaper than everybody. They're all gone and 94 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: their buildings are either abandoned or demolished, and there's a 95 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: bank there. We also seem to have more banks than 96 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: we need, which is beyond my comprehension, but it just 97 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: I guess it's the safest trend. But you have to 98 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: say to yourself, so how smart were they? Well, I 99 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,239 Speaker 1: guess one person could argue that they were pretty smart 100 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: because they're all to make their money or lose their money, 101 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: and they got out and they're retired, and they're sitting 102 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: on a beach somewhere listening to the sounds of my 103 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: voice laugh and saying, look at that jerk on the radio. 104 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: Or they went out, they're out of business and they're 105 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: doing something else, and that's an abandoned piece of property 106 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: that will sit there for the next ten or fifteen 107 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: years until the family gets done fighting, after the guy dies, 108 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: what to do with it. But it's still not a 109 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: repair facility. It's still not a place that somebody can 110 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: go and get their car fixed, or it's not something 111 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: something contributing to the economy in terms of a positive 112 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: source of of of you know, jobs, and and and income, 113 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: and it's not generating anything. So fifty seventy five years 114 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: from now, they're gonna look back and they're gonna go, 115 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: you know, where did all this start? Where do we 116 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: get the flying cars? Where do we get the self 117 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: driving car? It will probably start on a cold October 118 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,679 Speaker 1: morning when Grandpa looks down and sees his kids telling 119 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: the car, one of your transistors needs to be replaced. 120 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: Get yourself over to the repair shops so the guy 121 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: can swap out your module and the car will go, yes, Master, 122 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: and off it'll go. And Grandpa is gonna go you know, 123 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: there was a time that I took my car into 124 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: the repair shop. And his grandchildren are gonna laugh at 125 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: him and say, oh, come on, Grandpa, nobody actually took 126 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: their car to a repair shop. Blockbuster, Horn and hard Heart, 127 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: And if I sit and think about it longer. All 128 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: the places that aren't in business that we don't need. 129 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: I've read an article the other day on MSNBC that 130 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: they're predicting in very short time, manual transmissions won't exist 131 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: in the country anymore. You're not gonna see a manual 132 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: transmission car. So do you know that the Ford F 133 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: one fifty is not available with a manual transmission anymore? 134 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: The bread and Butter cowboy pickup truck doesn't come with 135 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: a stick? How can that be? So don't say you'll 136 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: never see the You'll you'll see the end of the 137 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: repair shops as we know it. Don't say that you'll 138 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: never see them again, but start thinking about it. Look 139 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: around your neighborhood. We're in New Jersey. I can drive 140 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: around and I can tell you every place that's a 141 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: bank or a convenience store that used to be a 142 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: gas station. You'll probably see it in your neck of 143 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: the woods that you know, Gee, there used to be 144 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: a repair shop there, or whatever happened to Fill or 145 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: whatever happened to Bob or whatever happened to Jose. Why 146 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: isn't that repair shop there anymore? I went to dinner 147 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks back with other repair shop owners 148 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: and we're talking about the business, and we're all gray heads. 149 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: Now we're older, and we're all talking about how we started, 150 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: because I guess you tend to look back and reflect 151 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: a little bit when you're you've been doing this long enough. 152 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: You know what, when I opened up the shop, I 153 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,679 Speaker 1: needed a toolbox, some wrenches, a screwdriver, a set of hammers. 154 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: You gotta have a hammer. You had to hit something, 155 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: and you know, g a voltmeter and a tire machine. 156 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: You know, it was, it was minimal. Today, the majority 157 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: of kids they see they're going into dealerships, they're all, 158 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, if it's not a family business that they're 159 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: becoming part of. I don't see any kid coming out 160 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: of trade school going down to the bank barrow in 161 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: half a million dollars and starting a business. I'm sure 162 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: it's happening, but my point is it's not happening in 163 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: the volume that it did thirty forty years ago. And 164 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: it can't because the cost to run a repair shop 165 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: is just too darn high. So will it be dealer only? 166 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: And when that filters out all the talent and nobody 167 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: wants to fix cars anymore, then they'll make the case 168 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: for self driving cars that are strictly electronic, strictly modular. 169 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: And if you can still fix an internal combustion engine, 170 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: my god, it will be like your Merlin. It'll be 171 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: like black magic. Just something to think about or to 172 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: repair shops twenty one century? Is this that moment in history? 173 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: Are we witnessing it here? And now I think we 174 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: are zero zero. I'm gonna pull over and take a pause. 175 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna kick those garage doors 176 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: wide open and still fix cars while we can't. I'm 177 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: running any in the car Doctor, don't go away. Hey, 178 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: welcome back. We're on any of the car Doctor rolling 179 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: along eighty five zero nine zero zero on our all 180 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: Elvis Bumper Music Weekend thanks to our chief engineer, Tom Ray, 181 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: and we put that out there for the King. This 182 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: is the anniversary of his passing and this past week 183 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: I think it was and um, you know, gosh, I 184 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: don't know how many years. It's been far too many. 185 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: Uh Thomas, No, Thoma's coming over the mic. The August 186 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: six I was in high school, just about ready to 187 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: start my job at my first radio job, and he 188 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: was scheduled to be in a concert in Hartford. I 189 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: believe on the eighteenth or nineteenth I was in the 190 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: second grade. I can't. I can't believe it's that long. 191 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: I was in college. I'm the old man here, so 192 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: I can tell I was fixing cars, though I can 193 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: guarantee you that I don't exactly where I was, but 194 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: I was still fixing cars. Let's go fix some cars. Anyway. 195 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: Let's go and talk to Kathy online one with an 196 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: oh one Ford wind Storre. Hi, Kathy, how can I 197 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: help you? What's going on? Hi? How you doing good? 198 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: What's cooking good? Well? I have the two thousand and 199 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: one Ford win Star right the trans came on, so 200 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 1: I like calling you a little early. I take it 201 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: in for a diagnostic. But one of the things that 202 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: they talked to us about was if we have the 203 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: transmission flushed, it might do more harm than good. It 204 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: was flushed at seventy two miles, but it has not 205 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: been flushed since, and it has a seven thousand miles 206 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: on it. I thought it could not hurt. Just to 207 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: get your point of view, well, so does the car 208 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,359 Speaker 1: run okay? Kathy? Does it shift normal? Any problems in performance? 209 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: Which atually I'm sorry, which that it runs? Okay, just 210 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: the transmission line is on. So has anybody pulled fault 211 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: codes out of it? Fault codes if the trans light 212 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: is on, if right, if if it's if it's got 213 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: the equivalent of a check engine line for the transmission 214 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: on on the dashboard, there's going to be a fault 215 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: code in there. There's something that triggered them. Okay, have 216 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: not done that yet. Okay, you know, at seven thousand miles, 217 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: my concern, you know is listen, it shifts, Okay, but 218 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: it's it's seeing a translight on now, stupid question. It's 219 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: not the overdrive indicator light. Is it? Somebody didn't hit 220 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: the overdrive indicator button and you've just got it, so 221 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 1: the overdrive won't engage, is it. Uh, don't know the 222 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: answer to that. I mean, I guess we can look 223 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: at that. I think I think there is an overdrive 224 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: button that will prevent it from going into overdrive in 225 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: the shift indicator itself and the shifter itself. I believe 226 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: in the end of it or somewhere on the dash 227 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: Uh that vintage Windstar had a you know, if you 228 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: hit this button that won't allow it to go into overdrive. 229 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: If you're towing or hauling or something like that, And 230 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: could it be something as simple as just the dash 231 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: button has been hitting and that's why the lights on. 232 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,599 Speaker 1: But if that not the case, If there's if the 233 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: lights on, then that means there's a fault that the 234 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: trans are the engine control module detected and it should 235 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 1: get a code scan to look and see. You know, 236 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: it's sort of let's take its temperatures to gut its tongue, 237 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: say on, say you know what's broke, and and then 238 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: we can have go ahead. It has the UM light 239 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: as flashing. It says off sash the offs. That's the 240 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: overdrive indicator, right, that's the overdrive indicator. But now that 241 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: vintage wind Star. If the lights flashing, that generally usually 242 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: most of the time means there's a fault in the 243 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,599 Speaker 1: trans module or a fault mechanically in the trans and 244 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: it's been detected. So first things first, somebody needs to 245 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: plug in and do a system scan. And the reason 246 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: I say a system scan is let's look at all 247 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: the modules. Let's let's see there's prob there's not really 248 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: a lot. In two thousand and one, there's probably eighteen. 249 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: It's it's not like today where the cars today have 250 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: electronic brains on them, but I would do a system 251 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: scan on that car to see what fault code is there. 252 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: You ever notice when you go to the doctor cath 253 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: and you know you got an earache, they still take 254 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: your temperature and your heart rate and they make you 255 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: stick out your tongue and say, ah, same thing all 256 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: right when you when you take it, when you take 257 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,479 Speaker 1: your car and for service today and it's getting a diagnostic, 258 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: the better shops will scan all the modules because that's 259 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: how they find that current problem and they find the 260 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: next problem before it becomes one I see, and then 261 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: we can talk about you know, would flushing the transfix it? 262 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: And probably not if the lights flashing, generally it's an 263 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: indication of something bigger and you know, more expensive than that. 264 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: But you know, once you tell me what fault code 265 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: is there, uh, the we can kind of talk about it. 266 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: If I were to guess, I've got a feeling you're 267 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: gonna come back and tell me that it's a P 268 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: zero seven four one, which was very common in that 269 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: trans um tour converter clutch solenoids and converters and things 270 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: like that that we're bad. So uh, you know, just 271 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: just be mindful, but have them scanning for codes and 272 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: then give me a call back next week. All right, 273 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: sounds great. You're very welcome, good luck and keep me posted. 274 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: Let's get over and talk to Clyde. Clyde, Lewis and Idaho. 275 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: I've been waiting for you. How are you, sir? Well, 276 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm fine. Things are well. I really appreciate your show. 277 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: And did did you get the email? Assun you with 278 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: all the details on this. Yeah, But you know, here's 279 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: what I don't Here's what I don't get because I 280 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: was I was doing some research and for those just 281 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: joining us, we've been working with Clyde in his car 282 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: for the past three weeks. When I look at a 283 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: wiring diagram for the mass airflow on that, Clyde and 284 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: I went back and I revisited it. Um Pins three 285 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: and four should have five volts on them. Pin pin 286 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: Pin one is the intake air attempt sensor, and that's 287 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: that's gonna change with temperature. Pin two should have a 288 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: vault in the quarter keyon engine off, and it should 289 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: go a vault and a half to a vault in 290 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: three quarters engine running. And you don't have that, do you. 291 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: That's right. The engine off voltage is only about a 292 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: quarter of a vault. So either you've got now where 293 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: are you measuring that? Are you measuring that at the 294 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: at the connector at the mass air? Are you measuring 295 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: that back at the control units? Are okay? And I 296 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: know you said you tried another mass are right and 297 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: you've got the same result. Well, there's better new development 298 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: let me tell you about. Okay, Well, let me just 299 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: finish my train of thought. Because when I look at 300 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: that mass air pin two, no matter how I look 301 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: at it is the potentialometer, that's the variable resistor. You 302 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: should be able to push on that door. Because this 303 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: is a door style mass air FRO sensor. You should 304 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: be able to push on that door and cause a 305 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: voltage increase. And if it was, if it was the 306 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: right voltage from a vault and a half all the 307 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: way up to five volts in a sweep, it should 308 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: sweep correctly. M So I come back to even though 309 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: you've tried to, I still see it as a as 310 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: a mass air issue. What what development came up? Well, 311 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: I put in a new CTS and I guess before 312 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: that it got even wilder instead of it would oscillate. 313 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: It would when run on up the three grand, and 314 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: then it would drop down to a thousand and run 315 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: up again, and it would keep doing that. It made 316 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: it almost impossible to drive it. And so even though 317 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: the cts tested good at both cold and hot, I 318 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: put in a new one and now that changed the operation. 319 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: Now it doesn't go real wild, but it won't. It 320 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: won't idle when it's cold. That is, you've got to 321 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: nurse it with your foot on the throttle, and then 322 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: it's better. It's not right yet, Well then I'm gonna 323 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: tell you. Obviously you've got to look at the resistance 324 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: of that cool intempt sensor, make sure that's dead nuts 325 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: on the money. But I would take a very hard 326 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: look at that mass air. Why that's only a quarter 327 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: of volt Clyde, because that's not right, And to me, 328 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: that's the next step in your problems. Keep me posted 329 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: along the way. I've got to go. I'm up against 330 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: the clock, running any of the car doctor. We're back 331 00:18:36,240 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: right after this, the King the car doctor here at 332 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero. Let's go and talk to Dan Burlington. 333 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: I think that's Burlington, mass and see what's going on here? Dan? 334 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: How are you welcome that's going on, sir? How can 335 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: I help? I got Honda Ridge line that I just purchased, 336 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: and the oil DISCOSSI recommendation is zero W twenty. My 337 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: concerns are, are they used to boost fuel corporate average 338 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: fuel economy ratings and get every mouth for gown they 339 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: can out of them or is it gonna be is 340 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: this kind of closed door ability issues down the road. 341 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: In addition to that, when should I do my first 342 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: oil change? Should it be a synthetic blend or false synthetic? Um? 343 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,239 Speaker 1: I know, I believe I've read in other countries are 344 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: using a higher discuss the oil, whether it's the warmarth climates. 345 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: So that's what tipped me off with the corporate average 346 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: fuel economy and those concerns. Well, let's let me let 347 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: me attack the in no particular, no particular order, dan 348 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: um first oil change. I still like to do the 349 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: thousand my oil change now. Honda a few years ago 350 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: started playing the card about they've got break in oil 351 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: in and they don't want they don't want it taken 352 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: out until the four or five thousand mile mark. I've 353 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: never actually seen a bulletin that supports it. I've heard 354 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: it from more than a few people I've got. I've 355 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: got no documentation about it. It's always in the back 356 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: of my mind, you know. But I'm still a you know, 357 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm still a believer in early oil changes. So the 358 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: best answer I've got for you, you know, you've got 359 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 1: to do your research and due diligence and make up 360 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: your mind. To me, it seems kind of strange that 361 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: I hear that there's a break in oil, and you know, 362 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: the world is filled with rumors, but yet I can't 363 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: find any documentation to support it, So that that that 364 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: bothers me. That beat that being said, you know, anything 365 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: but a Honda. I'm still changing oil litle thousand miles, 366 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: and I like that early oil change for a couple 367 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: of reasons. Number one, I still feel the need to 368 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: get oil out early um to remove any contaminant, to 369 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: remove anything that might have built up, to remove anything 370 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: that the engine manufacturer assembler didn't take out when they 371 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: put it together. Number one. Number two, I also like 372 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: to look around. To me, that's what the first oil 373 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: change is about. It's that look around. It's that did 374 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: everything seat right? Did everything get assembled right? That is 375 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: anything rubbing where it shouldn't be rubbing, you know. I 376 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: still remember that my two thousand four suburban some twelve 377 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: years ago, first oil change of the thousand miles, put 378 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: it up in the air, and lo and behold, the 379 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,719 Speaker 1: power steering pump was wet where the two halves came together. 380 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: I didn't do anything about it, but I noted it. 381 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: And by the next oil change it had finally dried 382 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: up and gone away. And it was just it was 383 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: assembly or it just hadn't sealed during manufacture, but it 384 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: was just something I noted before too much time went by. 385 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: So that's my argument for the early oil change. So 386 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: would you do it in a thousand and then how 387 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: often thereafter? Well, then we'll let's talk about what kind 388 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: of oil you're gonna use. You're gonna use You're gonna 389 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: use synthetic, all right. I'm not a believer in blend. 390 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: I think blend was created for those people that want 391 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: to keep buying those seven dollar cups of Starbuck coffee 392 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 1: but not really take proper care of the car. If 393 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: you've got money to go to Starbucks, you've got money 394 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: to put synthetic in the car and throw the synthetic 395 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: blend out. You just don't need it. Any particular brand 396 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: you like. I like Penn's Oil. I think Pen's Oil's 397 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: got it going on. As a matter of fact, you know, 398 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: I was just reading before the show today, Uh their 399 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: information sheet about zero twenty and I've got it in 400 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: front of me and they talk about pistons and see 401 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: this is you know, when you buy oil and there's 402 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: a lot of choices out there, you're buying, you're buying 403 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: the company, and you're buying the engineers. You know, in 404 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: the longtime, listeners are like, oh god, he's on that 405 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: bandwagon again. But it's the truth. You're you're buying the 406 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: engineering that's behind that company. And Pen's Oils engineers have 407 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: attacked the problems of today's engines by starting with a natural, 408 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: guest derivative based stock. You know, that's how oil is made. 409 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: You ever want to really understand motor oil, go take 410 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: a look, and you know see where they start talking 411 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: about how oil is made. And they start with a 412 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: bass stock. It's like making chicken soup. And then they 413 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: put their ingredients in and they put their vitamins in, 414 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: and you know, mother's love and you feel better in 415 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: the car. Is that a group four oil it, I'm 416 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: not sure at the top of my head. All right, UM, 417 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the stat sheet here. Let's see zero 418 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: twenty pure plus. My point was where I was gonna go. Uh, 419 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: I say viscosity grade service category. Uh, you know what, 420 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,239 Speaker 1: for the sake of radio g F five, I think 421 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: it's a group five. Um. I think it's a group 422 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: five oil, which is obviously above four. If that's the 423 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: if that's the spect they're talking about, we just stay 424 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: away from. We just stay away from the super tech 425 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: offered by Walmart. Yeah, definitely, um, and only because it 426 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: might be great oil. But I don't know who's making it. 427 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: I can't see any stake sheet on it. I don't 428 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: know the history of it. Uh. One of the things 429 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: that I noticed with Penzil, which is where I was 430 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: going with the conversation, is right in there zero twenty 431 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: spec sheet keeps pistons up to sixty cleaner than required 432 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: by the toughest injury industry standard. Everything today is piston 433 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: and piston rings. When we when we start talking about 434 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: cars with problems and and oil consumption and failure, it 435 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: always seems to come back to pistons and piston rings. 436 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: The manufacturers, and you hit the nail on the head 437 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: before at the beginning of the conversation, it's all about 438 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: cafe corporate average fuel economy, and they're all trying to 439 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: run as light aweight oil as they can, but they're 440 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: also running a low tension ring. Low tension rings, lightweight oil, 441 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: less drag, more fuel economy, better engine performance, and so on, 442 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: so it all plays hand in hand. Now, it's interesting 443 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: that you can take an engine rated for zero twenty, 444 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: put put five twenty in it and actually create an 445 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: oil consumption problem them. How's that? How's that for a 446 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 1: brain twister? Because what happens is the low tension ring 447 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 1: doesn't have the ability to hold back the higher viscosity 448 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: and scrape the cylinder walls cleaning. It actually creates an issue. 449 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: So the viscosity answer becomes run with the manufacturer says, 450 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: especially early in the vehicle's life. So you wouldn't you 451 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't be posed to using zero for the life of it. 452 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: And now I wouldn't be I wouldn't be opposed to 453 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,719 Speaker 1: using zero twenty for the first hundred and fifty thousand 454 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: and then and then we'll see where we are. Then 455 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. There's certain cars or certain applications 456 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: where I might have started that car on a zero 457 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: twenty or five twenty, and then I bumped it up 458 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: viscosity for one reason or another. Maybe they're starting to 459 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: maybe you're using it differently. Maybe you started out as 460 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: a as a mommy mobile taking the kids back and 461 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: forth to school and soccer, and then all of a 462 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: sudden it became uh, you know, maybe not in the 463 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: case of a of a ridge line, but it became 464 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,239 Speaker 1: But it could be in the case of a ridge line, 465 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: all of a sudden it was doing heavy towing and 466 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: hauling and it got more work. So I might go 467 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: to a higher viscosityes and got a little older and 468 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: a little looser. But you know, I make those decisions 469 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: on things I see during service. You know, listen, you know, 470 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's things I can't explain. It's it's 471 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: you know, to me, mechanics are you know, we're there. 472 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: We're supposed to look at the whole car in general 473 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: and keep it in mind, you know. And this is 474 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: my argument about when I talk to people about getting 475 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: cars serviced and repaired. There's there's two kinds of service. 476 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: And repair in this country. Either they know your name 477 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: or you're a number. So it's like it's like walking 478 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: into the Delhi department and they go now serving number seven, 479 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: or they you walk in and they go, hey, Dan, 480 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: come on over. Let me let me tell me how 481 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: much you know? What kind of call cuts you want 482 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: and how to slice the cheese. They know who you are, 483 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: They know what you want, and would you after the 484 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 1: thousand miles change how often would you change it thereafter? 485 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: Money is no object. I do it if I do it, 486 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: if a thousand mile intervals and see what it looks 487 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: like when it comes out. Okay, now under extreme temperatures 488 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: and hunter climates is zero. Yeah, I mean they're rating. 489 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: Go read the spect sheet, get out to get get 490 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: out to Pen's Oil Ultra Platinum or get out there. 491 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, get out that Penns Oils website. Uh penz 492 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: Oi Ultra Platinum is the oil I'd like to see 493 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: you use. But get out the Penn's Oil Synthetics dot 494 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: com is the website Penns Oil Synthetics dot com. And 495 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: now you can sit there and have a field there 496 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: reading about their viscosities and the royals in terms of 497 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: oil filters, all the top filters pretty close to one another. 498 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 1: Is a brand that head and shoulders about Wicks, which 499 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: is WIS has done their homework. Wis is manufacturing filters 500 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: for other manufacturers. You know, Wix is the filter of 501 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: choice in the shop. And would you go with the 502 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: conventional Wicks or Wis XP if in your case, I'm 503 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: probably gonna tell you Wicks XP because I think it 504 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 1: would make you sleep better at night. But the regular 505 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: regular WIGS filter is more than fine, more than adequate, 506 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: all right, especially for a guy that's gonna change it 507 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: every four thousand miles or sooner. Okay, So I'll just 508 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: keep with that. I'll dump in a thousand and then 509 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: do it ever before thereafter. And when you change it 510 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: at four, take a look at the color. If it's 511 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: coming out clean and four, yeah, go to five. That 512 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: that depends depends on Yeah, that depends oil is doing 513 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: its job. But by the advantage of going to be 514 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: on the oil change, Yeah, I don't think so. I 515 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: think it's a waste. And there's probably people out there 516 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: listening to my voice right now that would argue with 517 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: me and tell me I'm a jerk, because I'm telling 518 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: you to do it a thousand. But you know, I'm 519 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: old school in some In some cases I think I 520 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: think Corvett's I think they recommend five for the first one. Yeah, 521 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: and that's a different animal altogether unto itself. Right, So 522 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: don't don't don't compare what you did to your last car, 523 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: and don't compare what your neighbors doing to his car 524 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: unless it's the same car. When it comes to autmobiles 525 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: and maintenance today, everything is a unique, special sort of way. 526 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: All right, Dan, very good, Thank you for the help. 527 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: You're very welcome, sir, and we'll talk to you again sometime. 528 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm running any in the car doctor. We'll be back 529 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: right after this call. Les, We welcome back. We're on 530 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: a Nanny in the car doctor, you know, in in 531 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: reference to Dan who just called about the oil for 532 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: his Honda Ridge line and we're having a conversation last 533 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: week you and I about variable valve timing. Uh. This 534 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: comes to me from Steve up in Maine who sent 535 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: me an article from the folks at AMS Oil. They 536 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: were talking about variable valve timing and other complexity from 537 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: motor oils, and um it's interesting, like people the article 538 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: says engines must also breathe that compust one gallon of 539 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: gasoline and average engine requires approximately ten thousand gallons of air, 540 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: And it goes on to talk about the complexity of 541 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: what's going on, and part of the article states, variable 542 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: valve timing is a decades old technology that was introduced 543 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: to overcome the inherent limitations of fixed valve trained systems. 544 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: It's steadily grown and can be found in nearly all 545 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven vehicles. And it goes on to 546 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: talk about the implications of what really happens. VVT systems 547 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: or complex arrangements involving many intricing components, and they often 548 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: involve oil actuated hydraulic devices to control valve motion. They 549 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: are generally non serviceable. In many common problems associated with 550 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: v VT systems Are you ready Wait for It? Are 551 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: linked to pour oil or filter performance. Sludger deposits can 552 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: plug the solenoid screen or on galleries and impact the 553 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: operation in the VVT mechanisms. It's not only disruptive performance, 554 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: it can also be the first step towards across the 555 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: repair bill bottom line. Change the oil. Let's go and 556 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: talk to Patrick and Watertown Connecticut. There's no other way 557 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: to say it. It's just just just change the oil. 558 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: Just be done with it, you know. So Patrick, Watertown, Connecticut, 559 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: O six for Explorer, How can I help you? Sort? Hey? Ron, 560 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: I need your help badly. I've had this car for 561 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: this truck for ten years. I love it. I'm just 562 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: blowing through transmissions. UM. How many and how short a 563 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: period of time? UM? I believe it began in I 564 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: had a rebuilt by a local UM, local repairman, UM 565 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: had to go back for warranty. And lately it's been 566 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: I think I've been through six UM, you know, counting 567 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: the rebuilds. UM. I just had one done in May 568 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: on a remanufactured and then under warranty they just had 569 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: to fix it in July again they had to do 570 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: a whole new UH remanufactured transmission. And when they take 571 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: it apart, what are they what are they seeing that's failed? 572 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: Do they give you any indication? Is it? Because this 573 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: is unusual? This is not This is ridiculous, even with 574 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: I look back at the six Explore, the you know, 575 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: the harol horrible transmission history on those UM, they're not 576 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: they're not finding anything. They're not finding h I said, 577 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: maybe transmission fluid, you know, I'm cooling in there or 578 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: something like that. They're not finding anything like that, just failure, 579 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: you know. So but what actually failed? You know, let 580 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: me let me just finish that that remark. The automatic 581 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: transmission guys, the good ones are really smart and they're 582 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: really fun to listen to because they'll tell you they 583 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: took apart this trans and they found the second gear sprague, 584 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: or the or the third gear roller or the pup 585 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: up up. I mean they'll they'll they'll nail it down 586 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: to the MP detail because taking a transmission in it 587 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: now it gets very tedious and costly for them, so 588 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: they want to eliminate it and do it once in 589 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: one time only. You know, these trans is aren't that bad? 590 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: Oh six explore? Yeah, you know, a hundred and fifty thousand. 591 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: It will go through a trans maybe a hundred if 592 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: you never serviced it, that kind of a thing. But 593 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: they go through six and four years. That's that's you 594 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: know what, one every eight, nine, ten months. And I'm 595 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: spending a fortune on rental cars. Never mind, you know 596 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,239 Speaker 1: I have to pay part of the labor also, right, um, 597 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Stay on the line. Patrick, let 598 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: me pull over and take the plausum up against the clock. 599 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: We'll finish it up when we get back. I'm nating 600 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: of the car doctor. We'll return right after this. Yeah, ah, 601 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: welcome back. Why don't they need car doctor zero? Let's 602 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: go over Patrick, you're still there, sir, Yes, sir. You know, 603 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: when I'm dealing with repetitive of any kind of a failure, 604 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: I've always got to start back at square one. How 605 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: many miles have evolved since two thousand eleven when the 606 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: first trans was put in the truck? Um, I know 607 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: it was out of warranty. It was out. It was 608 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: past thirty six thousand. Um, I met a hundred and 609 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: seventy seven thousand now, okay, so probably it probably failed 610 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: around seventy thousand miles, So probably a hundred thousand since then. 611 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: So in a hundred thousand miles, you've put six transmissions 612 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,959 Speaker 1: in the truck, I believe. So okay, I actually lost count, 613 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: all all things being equal. Sort of sounds like the 614 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: guy that's rebuilding it isn't doing a great job, doesn't it. Well. 615 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: I switched after the I had the first one done, 616 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: he rebuilt it, and then I went back under warranty 617 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: and he rebuilt it again. Then I went to a 618 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: different um, different person, and they rebuilt it the first time, 619 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: and then it's been remanufactured transmissions since then. Remanufactured like 620 00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: somebody outside of the repair shop is rebuilding them. Well, 621 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: who's the rebuilder. Um, it's a place in Wisconsin. Well 622 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: did you think of calling them and saying, are you 623 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: having any issues and repetitive failures? Um? I just hounded 624 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 1: them on Friday and they're sending me an inspection report 625 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: so I can get to the bottom of this, because 626 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: here's the here's the deal, all right. Um, it's easy 627 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: to say, oh, it's the guy that's rebuilding it, but 628 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: something doesn't make sense here. It almost sounds like it's 629 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: the guy rebuilding it, or it sounds like it's it's 630 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: who who who are how they're installing it? But you know, 631 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: different places also, it's different, totally different businesses, and I'm 632 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: thinking it could be something unrelated, like, you know, maybe 633 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: it's getting too hot in there. There's okay, So I 634 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: would I would. I would hope somebody flushed the trans cooler. 635 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,439 Speaker 1: I would hope somebody is aware of heat. I would 636 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: hope somebody's looking you know, for possible fault codes in 637 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: the engine or the trans controller. Listen, after you talk 638 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: to the guys in Wisconsin, promised me call me back 639 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: next week. Let me know what they say. Let's continue 640 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 1: the conversation because I'm sure there's an end in sight. 641 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some sort of lodge conclusion. Six transmissions 642 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 1: and a hundred thousand miles that's a recipe for disaster. 643 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: And uh, something doesn't make sense there, So please call 644 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: me back. I'm not in any in the car doctor. 645 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you