1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:03,559 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian, do you talk to your kids about 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: the car? You better talk to the kids about the 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: car before they have the problem. The Car Doctor, I 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: get into it and I'm trying to find out how 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: to loosen up the melt cloud. I laid hundred and look, no, no, don't, 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: don't do that, You'll just get dirty. Welcome to the 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: radio home of Ron and Nannian the Car Doctor. Since 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: this is where car owners the world overturned to for 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving 10 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: you a busy signal, pick up the phone and call 11 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: in the garage doors are open, but I am here 12 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: to take your calls at eight five five six. And 13 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: now he running fixing cars. I used to think it 14 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: was like Colombo, but it's really not. It's it's kind 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: of like being Batman because you need a utility belt. 16 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome Ronaldiney in the Car Doctor. Thanks for 17 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: stopping by today. We had a car in the shop 18 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: last week, well actually yesterday Friday. What am I saying? 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: And Fridays are always kind of neat and to repair 20 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: shop because there's that Fridays are that they're like the 21 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: dessert of the meal there that they're that capitulation of 22 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: the week, and you just know by Tuesday what kind 23 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: of a week Friday is gonna end on and how 24 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: it's going to end. And I was right Friday at 25 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: quarter to five. If you can imagine, we had four 26 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: cars and an open state of they gotta go by five, 27 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: four cars, and we each car needs fifteen minutes, and 28 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,919 Speaker 1: there's two guys. You do the math. That's how busy 29 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: we were. And at quarter to five Kathy came in. 30 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: And Kathy is a regular customer, very sweet woman that 31 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: you know, just she just fixed the car. It's not 32 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: a problem. She just purchased a Ford Edge, of a 33 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: three year old Ford Edge, and she has said, you know, 34 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: I know it's gonna sound weird, but I've got this 35 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: issue with the you know, shut the car off. I 36 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: went to work, I shut the car off, and the 37 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: fans or she she actually didn't say fans. She said, 38 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: the cars making this noise. And I don't know what 39 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: it is. And so I, you know, by some nature 40 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: of miracle, after after ten minutes of waiting, somehow we 41 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: condense an hour's worth of work into ten and maybe 42 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: things go better. Maybe when you're in the pressure of it. 43 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: You're you're in combat, right you you see things differently. 44 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: But we got caught up about five to five, so 45 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: it's five minutes of five now. And I said to Danny, 46 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: I said, I was finishing up. I said, Danny, go outside, 47 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: take the launch thermal camera. The folks over at Launch 48 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: Tech USA just came out with, not just but within 49 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: the last year. They've got a thermal imager. And I 50 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: think of it as a camera, but it's basically it's 51 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: a It's it's like a ray gun, okay, that you 52 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: can turn it on and just stand and look at 53 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: and tell temperature of things. It's a thermal imager. So 54 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: I said, take the thermal imager from Launch. I said, 55 00:02:55,760 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: here's a wiring diagram of Cathy's underhood um wiring relay 56 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: box because from her description, I said, I bet the 57 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: cooling fan is running all the time, because that's what 58 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: it sounds like. I said, take the thermal imager. The 59 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: battery junction box on an edge is over on the 60 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: right side of the compartment. Take the cover off, take 61 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: the thermal imager and look for the hot relay. And 62 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: I kept working because I'm just finishing paperwork, billing cars. 63 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: You know, we're we're gonna be there until six on Friday. 64 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: Normally we're only there to five, but we were just 65 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: that backed up. He came back in within five minutes 66 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: and he says, I got it. He said this, he said, 67 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: and we identified it was cooling fan relay number two. 68 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: And I had given him the relay pliers. There's a 69 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: special set of pliers that you used to grab irregular 70 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: some of the relays are regular, and they've got a 71 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: set of pliers that opens up to the right grip. 72 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: With a little cushion grip on it, you can pop 73 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: it out right. And he pulled it out like a 74 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: dentist pulls a tooth, and the fans stopped. How's that right, 75 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: batman in his utility belt. Within six minutes, we had 76 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: a diagnosed and we had the bad part and one 77 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: right instead of just and and it and he said, 78 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,839 Speaker 1: and he saved the picture of it, and he's you've 79 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: got to see it. It's really kind of cool because 80 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: you're looking at the temperature of the underhood battery box 81 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: and it scales it. So the battery box was, you know, 82 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: underhood temperature, It was right about ninety eight degrees and 83 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: then you got to the little orange square that was 84 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: the relay or the rectangular relay, and the relay was 85 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: was a hundred and thirty two degrees and it popped 86 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: up orange. Everything around it was blue and the relay 87 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: was orange, and it was like bang, there it is. 88 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: Pulled it out. So at le's been what we gotta get. 89 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: Um send Kathy home in an uber. Thank god for technology, 90 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: right and UM called up forward. Quote my guys at 91 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: Ford two minutes to five. Um, you know Anthony over. 92 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: Actually I talked to Rick rich Over at Mama Ford 93 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: and said, hey, you know, yeah, I promises I got 94 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: went on the shelf, I said, sent it down Monday morning. 95 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: So we'll fix Cathy's car up by eight thirty, Kathy, 96 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: you'll have her car back, and um, it's all diagnosed 97 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: and ready to go. You know, let's see Batman pull 98 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: that one out of his cape and uh use the 99 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: batter ring. But sometimes you gotta be like you gotta 100 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: be like a superhero. It's just you gotta have a 101 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: bag of tricks. And and that's what fixing cars really 102 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: is about today. You know, It's it's beyond the normal 103 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: home drum stuff. That doesn't come up normal anymore. But 104 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: it's also knowing how to react and handle the extreme, 105 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: and you've got to handle it with technology. And I've 106 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: I've got to say the thermal imager does a bunch 107 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: of things. We don't just use it to fix relays. 108 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: The folks that launch are really onto something because their 109 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: particular imager um. The price point is great, the screen 110 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: is bigger than anything on the market, and it really 111 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: becomes a pleasure to use. I've I've used thermal imagers 112 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: in the past and they've got a lot of uses. 113 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: You'll you'll be amazed if you're in the market for one. 114 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: And if you know the holidays are coming up, and 115 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: if you know what should I get the mechanic in 116 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: my life, you know, to get him a thermal imager, 117 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,239 Speaker 1: they'll really Hey, listen, I used I've used the thermal imager. 118 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: The dryer at the house didn't work right, and um, 119 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: I used it to fix and find the bad gasket 120 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: on the dryer because I saw the heat escaping by 121 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: the thermal image. So be a batman, get yourself a 122 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: utility belt. Let's get over and open the phone. Let's 123 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: go over to Joseph and Kansas, Kansas Mercury sable. What's 124 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: going on, Yosef? How can I help? Hey? Ron? How's 125 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: it going good? Sir? What's cooking? Well? We just bought 126 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: a Mercury stable only eight thousand original miles. I'm sorry, No, 127 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: I'm only kidding. Go ahead. Uh My question for you 128 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: is what aren't some of the weak points to look 129 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: at on these sables? We've we had a three with 130 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: the three point eight later V six? Yeah, how many heads? 131 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: This one's got a three oh V six? So how 132 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: many head gas? Because you do on the three eight none? Really? Yeah? Wow? 133 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: You must take your vitamins down there in Kansas. Um. 134 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: Uh no, it dropped the valves. Oh well, so either way, 135 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: the engine came apart um. The three ohs are the 136 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: three ohs are pretty durable. This is the three oh 137 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: single overhead cam bread and butter Um. It was three 138 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,679 Speaker 1: cubic inches something like that. It's the little basic motor, 139 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: right and I believe it? Yeah? Yeah? Um? Is this? Oh? 140 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: So this is the duel overhead cam? I for sure. 141 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: Has it got a big one? Has it got a 142 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: big wide valve cover? And the and the spark plugs 143 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: are in the middle of the valve cover. Yeah, this 144 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: is the big white. They're pretty durable, all right. Um, 145 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: some things to note. Changing spark plugs is a bear. 146 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: The upper intake planet has to come off to do it. 147 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: And is it does it have coils or ignition wires? 148 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: Because I assume your question is where the holes, where 149 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: the pitfalls? And what parts do you should you expect 150 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: to have to replace? Uh? Basically what what are some 151 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: of the weak points? You know? Like so you need 152 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: to worry about transmissions? Yeah, but you know that generation, 153 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: you know by a lot of the problems were solved. 154 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: It was the early nineties tourists sables that had the 155 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: problems with planetaries and drums and servos and input chefts 156 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: and everything else that went wrong. It was you know, 157 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: I think I think four at the time was they 158 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: were practicing building transmissions and they kind of got it 159 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: right by the mid nineties. Seven are pretty durable. But 160 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: like anything else, it is two years old now and 161 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: you know it's you know, what kind of shape is 162 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: the fluid in? And should you have a change and 163 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: are there any leaking? Yeah? You know, I'll put it. 164 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: I'll put it to you like this, how much did 165 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: you pay for the car. Okay, for two grand, you 166 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: think the car is good enough to run a year? 167 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: I think so, okay, So if you get a year 168 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: out of that are with minimal investment, it doesn't it 169 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: then doesn't owe you at time what I'd be worried 170 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: about as far because you're not gonna do anything about 171 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: the shape of the trans. If the trans is gonna grenade, 172 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: the trans is gonna grenade, and you're not gonna put 173 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: a trans in it. Because while I can speak in 174 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: New Jermsey and New Jersey dollars, transmission in that car 175 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: even today is every bit of three thousand dollars thirty bucks. 176 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: They're not cheap. So it's you know, you know, the 177 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: trans are gonna cost you more than what the car paved, 178 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: which you paid for the car um so that that 179 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 1: wouldn't make any sense. You know, you've got to look 180 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: at rust. You've got to look at break lines, fuel 181 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: lines coming down the left side of the chassis. You 182 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: want to take a look at the rear suspension. The 183 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: cross links always rusted, they were always issues. And you know, 184 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: as long as the rust doesn't isn't a problem, then 185 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: you can go look, you know, just do some maintenance 186 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: to it filters. You you know, when was the last 187 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: time spark plugs are out of it? Uh? You know, 188 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: at fifty eight thousand by mileage, it's kind of early 189 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: by time. If they're original, they're twenty two years old. 190 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: Will the will the steel plug come out of the 191 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: aluminum cylinder it? Yeah, that's a whole another question unto itself. 192 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: But I've got to tell you I have had more 193 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: than a few customers with that Generation nine that was 194 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: the duel overhead cam motor. Those things ran two hundred 195 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: fifty thousand miles depending on how you maintained them. It was. 196 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: It was rust and maintenance. They did go through steering racks. 197 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: Every once in a while. You had one that leaked 198 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: in and filled the bellows. You know, be sure that 199 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: the front end, the inner tirod ends on both sides 200 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: are good. If you do one, you might as well 201 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: do both. Take a look at the front sway bar links. 202 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: That was a weak link and no pun intended as well. 203 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: You know, but for two grand that car, that car 204 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: might go into the three four years you might be 205 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: surprised with some basic maintenance. I do have one more question, um, Now, 206 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 1: this generation stable had a three speed automatic correct or 207 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: was it the one prior to the the older generation Sable, 208 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: because my grandfather had four tours that had the three 209 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: speed that that actually could have if if memory serves, 210 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: that actually had one of three pass that actually has 211 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: one of three possible transits. Because it's funny. I was 212 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: just looking at the Pan gaske oft assortment in the 213 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: shop the other day. I still stuck all three pan 214 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: gaskets for that generation tourists Sable, so um, you know 215 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: they they it could have one of three. I'll tell 216 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: you what, Joseph, hold that question. Let me pull over 217 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: and take this pause, and when we come back, we'll 218 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: finish up with you and then move on with the 219 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: rest of the show. I'm running any in the car doctor, 220 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this. Need advice on how 221 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: to maintain that classic g t O ron is the 222 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: guy five five five zero nine zero. Here's Rod. Hey, 223 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: we were talking to Joseph and Kansas Yos if you're 224 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: still there. Yes, you were leading to a question about 225 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: a transmission real quick, big, I've got I've got backed 226 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: up phones and you were going to ask me something 227 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: about a transmission for this Sable. Yeah, did they actually 228 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: come out with the three speed or because my grandfather 229 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: towards had the three speed with the lockout over drive. 230 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Well they did have they had three 231 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: different versions of let's say like this, there were three 232 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: different versions of transmission for this generation tourist sable and 233 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, I don't remember the I think it was 234 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: four T and E UM different trans is different cases. 235 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: Some of them were three, some of them were four. 236 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 1: If I remember, I think two or three woman of four. 237 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: I think the four was the big option. Um, what's 238 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: your question? How do you identify it? No, I just 239 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: was curious to see if they actually did. I believe 240 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: there was three speed and four speed. But the bigger 241 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: issue is and from what I remember that they all 242 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: failed and they all had their issues. But again, it's 243 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: nothing you're going to be able to prevent or stop. 244 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: It's it's just it's gonna happen. And as I said 245 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: in the beginning of this conversation, the cost of the 246 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: trans replacement is going to exceed what you paid for 247 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: the car. Not saying it's not worth doing, but you know, 248 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: maybe things are a little cheaper in Kansas, you know, 249 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: cost a living and that kind of a thing, but 250 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: at this stage I would do some basic maintenance, look 251 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: it over for rust, check the front end, make sure 252 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: it's good and tight, and drive it and see what happens. 253 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: For two grand, like I said, you get a year 254 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: out of it. Um, you know that's a two month 255 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: car payment. A little less boy, that's that's cheap. Actually, 256 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: you get ten months out of the car. So if 257 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: come July this car is running with minimal investment, you 258 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: did good July August, depending on when you purchased it. 259 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: So as always, Jose if I appreciate the phone call, 260 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: and thanks for falling us down there Kansas Way, let's 261 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: get over to Alan, Maryland. Now, welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. 262 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: How can I help hi? Hi? Ron, all time listener, 263 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: I learned something from your show every week. Thank you. Um. 264 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about scan tools. I've got 265 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: one of the old snap on bricks, the MT two, 266 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: and I'm using it with a nine nine Nissan center 267 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: of and that ninety nine Nissan center I had two 268 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: ports on it. It's got the O B D two 269 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: sixteen pin port and it had a Nissan specific fourteen 270 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: pin port. I found an adapter when I first bought 271 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: that car, and I brought the scan tool that allowed 272 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: me to connect to the Nissan specific port, and I 273 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: got the Asian uh Cars cartridge and I was able 274 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: to view the data stream that it was fine cars 275 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: got over a quarter million miles on it. Time to upgrade. 276 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: I got a decent deal on a two thousand and 277 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: five Nissan center. This one only has the O B 278 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: D two port, doesn't have a Nissan specific port. So 279 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: my question is, is is it worth trying to find 280 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: an O B D two adapter for the old snap on? 281 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: I looked on the day and you can find them, 282 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: But then they need a personality key. You know. I 283 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: didn't know that car computers need a psychiatrist, but some 284 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: of the mechanics, some of the mechanics do. I can 285 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: tell you that. So yeah, that I mean, am I 286 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: chasing my tail trying to use that old scan tool 287 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: or should I just break down and buy a decent 288 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: O B D two scans? I don't think so. I 289 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, it depends on what you're looking for. Listen, 290 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: at some point you're gonna be outgunned using that that 291 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: that snap on brick, it just outgrew its life. So 292 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: so you know, if you can find a cartridge, you know, 293 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: one of the cartridges that plugs into that that works 294 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: on that brick, then it's worth it to have the 295 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: O B D two scanner capability to to buy the court. 296 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: What are you going to invest? You know what could 297 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: all this stuff be worth a hundred a hundred and 298 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: fifty bucks now, yeah, the ones that I've found, the course, 299 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: the role used and Gully knows how how many times 300 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: have been run over by the shop back, but there 301 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: was around fifty bucks. But then what do you do 302 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: with this person? What do you need? What's this personality? 303 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: The personality key? Yeah, the personality key was because snap 304 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: On at the time didn't have the capability to um 305 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: it's an They a lot of the other companies did 306 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: it internally where they would short pens internally that you 307 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: would never see it as the end user to identify 308 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: what vehicle you're hooked up to and how it should 309 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: communicate on what protocol, whether whether it was um I 310 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: S O eighteen fifty or whether it was one of 311 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: the other protocols that were available, you know, speaking computer language, 312 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: that type of thing. But you know, again you need it. 313 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: What's total investment if total investment is a hundred and 314 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: fifty bucks to keep using a tool that you're familiar with, 315 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: that you've had good luck with. Hey, listen, it doesn't 316 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: hurt to have to scan tools, said the guy who 317 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: has said that, said the guy who has right. So 318 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: you know, yes, you're you're you're standing the life of 319 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: that scan tool using it. But you know what, a 320 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty bucks, it's a backup. Do that by 321 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: yourself another O, B D two scan tools, something a 322 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: little more modern with more capability. Go visit the sto 323 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: for over it. If you want to have the conversation. 324 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: Go visit the stuff over at launch tech USA dot com. 325 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: Take a look at some of the launch stuff. Uh, 326 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: see what they've got going on. You can go out 327 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: and look for another used snap on, perhaps out on 328 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: eBay if you want. But price point is gonna it's 329 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: gonna knock your socks off. Uh you know it's just yes, 330 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: you can always use another scan tool, is my point. 331 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: And you know that brick it'll work short term for 332 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: a while, but it won't really do well for the 333 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: next generation Nissan after this. So five that I can 334 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: tell you al as always, sir, I appreciate the Callina, 335 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,719 Speaker 1: thanks for listening down Maryland Way. Hey, questions about batteries, right, Um, 336 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: you know, batteries are a big deal. They're gonna be 337 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: a big important part of our life. Uh. Look, they 338 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: are every day. But now with the cold weather coming 339 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: to so many parts of the country and around the world, Right, 340 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: batteries are a big deal. We've reached out that Jim mcilvane. 341 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: He is the e care Manager and optim Batteries care 342 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,959 Speaker 1: of Clario's Global And um, we're gonna be joined by 343 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: Jim a little bit right after this. As a matter 344 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: of fact, we're gonna be talking to him battery Q 345 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 1: and A. Um, you know what's it take to uh 346 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: what's it take about the batteries when he needs to know? 347 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: So stick around. I'll run and needing the car doctor. 348 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this. Welcome back. You know, 349 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: it's a great time of year, well, every time of 350 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 1: the year is a good time of the year to 351 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: be thinking about your battery, but especially going into the 352 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: fall and winter driving season. It's uh, you know, it's 353 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: it's time for a little t LC for the cars 354 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: battery because it is the heart of the electrical system. Today, 355 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: and you know it's something you just can't have enough 356 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: information on and we thought we would reach out to 357 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: Jim McKell than. He's an information specialist over an optimal 358 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: batteries and we're glad to happen with us here today 359 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: on the Car Doctor. Jim, welcome to boards her. Thanks 360 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: for me. UM. Let's talk about right at the top 361 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: of the list. I think the biggest question we get 362 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: from everybody is that about UM charging batteries, charging a 363 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,239 Speaker 1: GM batteries, UM, anything special they need to know if 364 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: they're out there trying to do so this year, there 365 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: really isn't UM. The best thing people can do for 366 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: their car battery, whether it's an A g M or 367 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: just a regular footage battery, is to put on a 368 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: charger because a lot of vehicles are being driven around 369 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: with batteries that are not in a fully charged state. 370 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: Because a lot of these newer cars and trucks, they 371 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: consume tons and tons of electricity and energy even when 372 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: they're not being used. They've got on star runner and 373 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: looking for a signal, they've got anti theft devices going 374 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: and and so it's really helpful for battery performance and lifespan. 375 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: As people even in their daily driven cars. Put their 376 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: cars on a battery charge or even once a month 377 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: at makes a difference, just just kind of perk it 378 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: up a little bit because you just probably can't get 379 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: enough maybe you can't get enough clean regulated charge, so 380 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: to speak, in the battery it's trying to run the car, 381 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: and or it's part of the car running. It's easier 382 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: to maintain it on a um on a once a 383 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: month charge like that that does something for it. Well, 384 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's one of those situations where it depends 385 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: on how somebody's using a car. If they're flying out 386 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: of the airport and leaving their car sits for three 387 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: weeks while they're in a business trip or vacation, that 388 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: the battery is getting discharged the whole time, and if 389 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: it's a twenty minute drive home, that might not be 390 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: enough time for the car's charging system recharge the battery. 391 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: Or if they've got a five or two need to 392 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: work every day, the amount of energy gets consumed when 393 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: the battery starts the engine, Uh, it doesn't really get 394 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: a chance to get replaced. If they're only driving five 395 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: or ten months, over and over, day after day, the 396 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: battery eventually will will reach a state of discharge to 397 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: the point where it won't start the car, and then 398 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: people get into that cycle that everybody he knows it's 399 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: the dead battery jump start where your batteries dead, jump 400 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: started and put just enough energy in it to get 401 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,239 Speaker 1: it started, and then you get it home and your 402 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: alternators getting cooked the whole time trying to recover your battery. 403 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: And then you wake up the next morning your battery 404 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: is dead again, but it really didn't get a chance 405 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: to get fully charged. So end of that cycle of 406 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: dead batteries and jump starts, until you end up the 407 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: place in the battery when really the best thing to 408 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: do is sticking on a charger and get it fully 409 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: charged and make it easier on the alternator, and you'll 410 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: end up you'll you'll end up saving the life of 411 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: the alternator as well. Yeah, I get it. That makes sense. 412 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: Does does Ambian temperature effect batteries? Jim? You know it does? 413 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: And as we're coming out of the summer and most 414 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: of the country, that's where the damage it really happens 415 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: to carbetters, especially batteries that are under the hood and 416 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: hotter climates in the South. In Florida where I'm at 417 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: or the desert southwest and Los Aveleas and Phoenix areas 418 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: like that. It's the heat that really damages batteries, But 419 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: the battery sales really spike for company once we get 420 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: into that first cold snap of the winter, because that's 421 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: when the damage really manifests itself. It's harder to start 422 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: the engine the oil sticker and it takes more cranking power, 423 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: and in a battery that's been damaged by heat or 424 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: just getting ready to be at the end of its 425 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: useful life, really gets calling the question when you're turning 426 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: over your engine and it's not going. So that's that's 427 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: where people see it. But the great news is just 428 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: about every major autoparts store in the country is more 429 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: than happy to try to charge your battery and check 430 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: it for free if you think you have some issues. 431 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 1: They offer free load testing just about everywhere. So if 432 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: you're worried about your battery, if it's been slow cranking over, 433 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: take it to your favorite autoparts store and say he 434 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: could could you perform a load test for me on 435 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: my battery, And especially if they think they're gonna sell 436 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: a battery to you, it'd be happy to do that. 437 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: Does the does a charge cycle differ? You know, I 438 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: hear the I hear the word optima, and I think 439 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: about you know, an optima battery is just a battery, 440 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: But it's not right, is it? Is the charge cycle 441 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: different for an optima versus a standard flooded battery. Well, 442 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: one of the great things about our batteries is that 443 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: we use pure lead in all our products uh and 444 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: that makes the battery performing their last longer, but it 445 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: accepts current much better than a traditional flood battery that 446 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: uses recycled bat We have cast straps that connect our cells. 447 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: Each twelve bolt battery has six cells, and we put 448 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: in these thick uh lead straps that that connect the 449 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: cells versus we from Tombstone about the difficult black box 450 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: flood battery uh and and that those Tombstone wells are 451 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: are really a choking point for current flow. So when 452 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: you have those robust uh inter cell straps that we 453 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: have on the Opto batteries, they can accept current and 454 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: charge a lot faster, and then when you really need 455 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: the energy, they can deliver a lot more current a 456 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: lot more efficiently than typical flood battery. So is an 457 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: optima battery more sturdy than a regular battery. Absolutely, and 458 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: an A g M batteries in general are are more 459 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: robust than a than a floated battery, and you you 460 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: don't have to look any further than start stop cars. 461 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: And for people that are not familiar with that technology, basically, 462 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: it's like a golf carent where when you pull up 463 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: to a stoplight, the engine turns off to save fuel, 464 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: and then when you press on the accelerator the engine 465 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: starts up again. So that requires a battery to start 466 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: a car thousands and thousands of times more than it 467 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: would in a typical car. We just start the engine 468 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: up and it runs until you park the car um 469 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: And so those start stop cars are moving to a 470 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: g M batteries because A g M batteries are far 471 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: more robust to handle those heavy cycling applications where they're 472 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: starting and stopping over and over again, month after month, 473 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: year after year. So when we say Optima, we really 474 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: mean Optima a GM and absolute glass MATT battery thing. Yeah, yeah, 475 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: the absorbed glass MAT batteries of Optima. It's most of 476 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 1: our batteries are familiar to folks with their six pack 477 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: design because they're spiral cell wound. We do have a 478 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: new flat plate H six battery that's a direct fit 479 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: for a lot of European cars, a lot of the 480 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: GM cars, a lot of Chrisier vehicles that use those 481 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: those H six sizes. But the technology inside it will 482 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: say it's still pure, that it's still cast straps and 483 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: it's a very robust product. Absorbent. I don't know what. 484 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, I always say absolute, but 485 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: it's absorbing class mattic Um, I used to know. I 486 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: used to have a guy in the it's a funny story. 487 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: I had a guy in the glass business, Absolute glass, 488 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 1: and um, his his initials were A g M. So 489 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: that's where it's stuck in my head. Um. But yeah, 490 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: absorbing bressment. Uh, you know it's funny, right, Um. Newer vehicles. 491 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: It's been said that newer vehicles need a more powerful 492 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: battery than an older one, and hence the A g 493 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: M battery. Is that true? Absolutely? And it's and it's 494 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: not just the start stop cars, but when you think 495 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: about Camaro versus a Camaro, it's a world of difference. 496 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: On Star is operating all the time on a new 497 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: Camaro and it's searching for a signal it's it's ready 498 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: to call for help if you need it, and that 499 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: requires energy. A lot of newer vehicles have incredible sound 500 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: systems in them, um, and it's not just being a 501 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: clock of memory anymore or the five presets on your 502 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: your radio. There's a lot more going on in those 503 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: cars as they get more features packed into them. Some 504 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: of these cars have sentry features where when the car 505 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: is parked, if somebody comes within a certain distance, that 506 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: it turns on video cameras and it records these people 507 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: walk around cars. So all that technology that gets packed 508 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: into these cars that makes them so enjoyable requires a 509 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: lot of electricity, and that that includes when it's running 510 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: as well as when it's parked. So yeah, that's that's 511 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 1: why you see car companies moving to much physically bigger batteries, 512 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: and they're moving them out of the engine compartment. They're 513 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: putting them in the trunk and put them under seats 514 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: where they're they're less pro them to damage from heat 515 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: and and they'll last a lot longer their a GM batteries, 516 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: so you don't have to, you know, rip your seats 517 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: out every year to change your battery. It could be 518 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: a six or seven year proposition, I'm replacing those batteries 519 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: makes sense. That must that must be the Mercedes g 520 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: Wagon battery. Uh, you know, I I look at them. Yeah, 521 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: I can imagine. I look at some of these cars 522 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: and the technology that's in them, and I say, you know, 523 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: now I understand it makes sense to me. Hey, Jim, 524 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: before we go, UM kind of excited. There's a there's 525 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: a ride shotgun experience going on, and Optimate Batteries is 526 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: also searching for the ultimate ultimate street cark. And you 527 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: tell us about those two things. Well, the Ultimate street 528 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: Cars and Impotent we have every year, um, and we 529 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: have a series of seven qualifying events. They go to 530 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: tracks around the country and these are all street legal 531 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: cars and trucks, and we put them on a racetrack 532 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: and see how they do not wheel the wheel racing, 533 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: but timed events. And then we take them on the 534 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,719 Speaker 1: road to make sure that they're legitimate street driven vehicles. 535 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: And then we invite the best ones out to Las 536 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: Vegas and take him to the SEMA Show and then 537 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Motor Speedway right after the SEMA Show, 538 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: where we have the opened the street Carntational and Common 539 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: Champion and last year was You won't believe this. It 540 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: was the seven Camaro, but this particular Camaro is about 541 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: a thousand horsepower and he has trash and control and 542 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: analect RS. It's it's just an amazing car and he's 543 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: gonna try to defend his title this year. And then 544 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 1: the Ride Shotgun promotion we did. We invited UH fans 545 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: to submit a short video about why they'd like to 546 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: ride Shotgun with one of our brand ambassadors and one 547 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: of their vehicles, and we had six different experiences, from 548 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: riding the Rubicon Trail with Larry and his Jeep to 549 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: go to the Durber Green in Germany with James Clayton. 550 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: So we're gonna announce those six winners at the SEMA 551 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: Show and we're gonna send those people off on the 552 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: rides of their lives. Hey, Jim mcilvane, where can the 553 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: listeners go get more information about about the Shotgun Ride 554 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 1: Shotgun experience in the Ultimate Street Car. As well as 555 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,479 Speaker 1: Optimal Batteries, there's got to be a website. Well, Altoma 556 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: Batteries dot Com is our website and we're on all 557 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: your favorite social media channels as well, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Pinterest, 558 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: what have you okay, cool beans, Hey, Jim, thanks a lot, 559 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: and uh, let me ask you a real quick personal question. 560 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: Any any rumor that, um, you're the guy that used 561 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: to play basketball. I did used to play for the 562 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: Nets for three seasons, two seasons in Seattle and two 563 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: seasons in Washington. I thought I thought you were that 564 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: famous guy. So cool beans. Hey, listen, we're we're glad 565 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: to have you here with talking about optimal batteries and 566 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: uh um, we're glad you took the time. Um, good job, 567 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: good job, sir. All Right, you know what you're on. 568 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: So you're welcome back anytime. Brother, all right, thank you, 569 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. You take good care, Jim. I'm on 570 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: any in the car doctor, and we're back right after this. 571 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back. We're on an end the car doctor. Let's 572 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: go over and talk to Isaac in Minnesota ninety seven 573 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: Toyota camera. Isaac, Welcome aboard, sir. What's going on? Hey Ron? Hey, 574 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: I camera four cylinder. Actually I called you a few 575 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: months back. I was the one that you helped me 576 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: figure out that my check engine light bulb was out. Okay, gotcha, 577 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: So that same carre's same same car Isaac, this car, 578 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: same car, gotcha? Okay? Um, So, like I said, the 579 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: code of the code zero five zero five? So bad? 580 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: Idol are strow valve or I don't well idle idle 581 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: air control circuit full. Let's call it what it is, okay, 582 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: you know? No? All right? So so you've got a 583 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: five oh five in a camera. Which engine is this? 584 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: It's the four cylinder and the same engine that came 585 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: with the car. Was there an engine swap involved here? Yeah? 586 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: There was an engine and transition swap and I, as 587 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: far as I can tell, it was either two thousand, 588 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: two thousand one. So how long has the engine swap 589 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: been there? I mean, as it have you had the 590 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: car a while and then with this engine swap and 591 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: know x X number of months later this fault code occurred? 592 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: Or has this fault code been there since you did 593 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: the swamp? No? I I've had the Carson's April. I 594 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: got it from a guy and he had said he 595 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: had done to swap a little while back. And when 596 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: I got it, obviously I didn't see any codes because 597 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: well I didn't scan it, but I didn't see a 598 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: check engine. So I've noticed that kind of had a 599 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: weird idol. So then I took it to an orioley 600 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: and you know, I had some codes pop up, so 601 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: I assume that probably ever probably been there since they 602 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: did the swap, right, And that's now we know why 603 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: the ball was missing, because they figured that was the 604 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: way to fix it. Let's just take the ball about 605 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: the heck with it? Um, Well, the ball was burned down, 606 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: but I don't know, I don't know if he was 607 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: being lift or not. But yeah, well, and the ball 608 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: was burned out because it was on all the time. 609 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: And I guess, you know, it was either that or that, 610 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: you know, they couldn't afford the piece of electrical tape 611 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: over the bulb. So you know, now we've got a 612 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: nineties seven vehicle with what we think is a two 613 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: thousand one UM engine transmission assembly. So what I'd like 614 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,479 Speaker 1: to do? What I Well, there's some basics we can 615 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: go through here, but it always would pay if you 616 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: can get your hands on a wiring diagram for a 617 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: nineties seven and the wiring diagram if you can identify 618 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: the engine let's say it's a two thousand one, and 619 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: compare the circuit that you're having a fault with. I 620 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: just like to know, is it not? Does a ninety 621 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: seven operate the same way as a two thousand and 622 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: one as far as wiring inputs in strategy, because what 623 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: I'm about to tell you will will be particular for 624 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: a nineties seven, all right, So you know, if we 625 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: don't have that, then we're just kind of guessing in 626 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: the wind. All right. So do you have a pencil 627 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: and paper, Isaac, I'll tell you what hang on? Yeah, 628 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: tell you what hang onto that stay put right where 629 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: you are, Becau. When I come back, I'm gonna give 630 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: you some notes. I got some voltages. I want to 631 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: give you some wire colors for you to check. And 632 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: then I don't want to I don't want you to 633 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: miss any of the state. Right, we are more on 634 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: any of the car. Doctor, We'll be back. Welcome back. 635 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: We're on any of the car, Isaac. You're still there 636 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, Isaac, Isaac, So listen to me. At the 637 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: idle speed controller the IAC motor, there'll be a green 638 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: red wire and a green yellow wire. All right, if if, if, if, 639 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: if the wiring harness hasn't been modified, all right, that 640 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: green red wire at idle, fully warmed up should read 641 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: about seven and a half vaults. Okay, that green yellow 642 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: wire should read eight and a half vaults if you 643 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: ground the green red wire and use a fused jumper 644 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: when you do this, ye, just for giggles for protection, 645 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: the engine rpm should go up if you if you 646 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: ground the green yellow wire, the engine should stall. If 647 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: if you've got all that and all those responses work, 648 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: then you've got proper voltage and signal. Then we've got 649 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: to talk about what's different between. And it would be 650 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: interesting to look up what's different between and oh, I'm 651 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: sorry at a ninety seven and an O one IAK 652 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: And then again which throttle body is on this? Did 653 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: they use the throttle body from that? They use the 654 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: throttle body from the OH one? Yeah? Yeah, Because that's 655 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: that's what I'm trying to figure out, is I took 656 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: my mechanic and they put on two different new hid 657 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: air control ours and they're still having the same issue there. 658 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: Their thought processes, Well, you have a nineties seven e 659 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: c M in there, and you have a two thousand 660 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: generation engine, and so they're thinking we need to get 661 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: a ninety seven, you know, throttle body and everything on 662 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: there all together. And I'm trying to figure out taking 663 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: to fix it. But well, and I'm gonna tell you 664 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: right now, I would look at wiring diagram. I would 665 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: match a wiring diagram for a nineties seven idle air 666 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: control motor and a two thousand one, two thousand whatever 667 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: generation IAK motor. This is if they're different. You know, 668 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: count the wires, look at the colors. Then you've got 669 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: to figure out which one you have, and then get 670 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: the one that matches the car because your mechanics, right, 671 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: you're working with something that's a ninety seven controller and 672 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: that's really what you want. So do that. Call me back. 673 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,919 Speaker 1: I'm running any of the car, doctor, reminding you good 674 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you