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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wire to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wire to Hunt Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyon, and this is episode number thirty five.

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Speaker 1: Tay in the show, Dan and I are discussing late

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Speaker 1: season plans and problems. So here we go. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Wired to Hunt podcast, and tay In. The show

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Speaker 1: is just me and Dan sitting here in Michigan and Iowa,

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Speaker 1: connected simply by a couple of sets of headphones to Mike's,

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Speaker 1: the Internet, and a common addiction to hunting white tails. So, Dan,

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Speaker 1: how the heck are you doing? I'm doing pretty good, Mark.

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Speaker 1: I had one of these. I'm having one of those

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Speaker 1: weeks though, and I'm sure everybody knows what I'm talking about. Where. Um,

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Speaker 1: Yesterday I go down into my laundry room and there's

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell is going on? So I

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Speaker 1: go back up to my kitchen and notice that every

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Speaker 1: time I run the faucet there's a hole in the

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Speaker 1: line somewhere and it's been leaking down into behind the

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Speaker 1: drywall on the ceiling um and going over top of

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Speaker 1: my homes electrical box and getting the floor in my

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Speaker 1: laundry room wet, so I had to take drywall off

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Speaker 1: the ceiling and off the walls and get a fan

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Speaker 1: in there and dry it all out, clean it all up,

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Speaker 1: and fix the faucet. And then today at work, I

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Speaker 1: had one of those days where I don't ever want

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Speaker 1: to sound like I'm a violent person, but I wish

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Speaker 1: I could take a hammer and smash my computer and

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Speaker 1: maybe some hands of some coworkers. Maybe we might have

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Speaker 1: to edit that out, because I think there's some people

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Speaker 1: where I work that listen to this, but I think

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Speaker 1: they understand, so well, yeah, let's smash the desk, especially

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Speaker 1: desk desk. Oh Man, Well, sorry to hear that first

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Speaker 1: and foremost. Imagine you probably can't divulge too much of

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Speaker 1: of why all that stuff, but I'm sure many of

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Speaker 1: us can relate to just how work can do that

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Speaker 1: to you sometimes. Right. But the good thing is is

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Speaker 1: I took a little I took a little moment of

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Speaker 1: zen break and uh, I went to Google Maps like

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Speaker 1: I always do, I spend you know, several hours a

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Speaker 1: week on there, and just looked at the property and

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Speaker 1: had a dreams about next year or you know, kind

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Speaker 1: of planning already even though this season's out, over planning

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Speaker 1: for uh next season a little bit. So yeah, thats

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Speaker 1: right there, whitetail Therapy, It's it's the best right now.

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Speaker 1: I understand you just got back from Indiana. It's true.

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Speaker 1: That's true. I did, and you told me you were

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Speaker 1: going to talk with me about it before we started recording,

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Speaker 1: So now can we talk about it? Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: pretty exciting story. So I didn't. I didn't want to

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Speaker 1: want to come out with this first and foremost the

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Speaker 1: first place here on the Wired Hunt podcast. I had

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Speaker 1: one of the most horrible hunts of my entire life.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say, dude, I saw a giant.

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Speaker 1: I wish, dude. I hunted, um now, not not for

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Speaker 1: terribly long time. It was a three day trip. But

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Speaker 1: over the course of three days, I saw a grand

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Speaker 1: Not one. Wow. Yeah, yeah, Did you have trail cameras

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Speaker 1: we don't even need to have a conversation because I shoot,

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00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 1: you know, I shoot a mooner. And then I'm just like, yeah,

430
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 1: I've been holding out for these guys all oh year,

431
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: but I totally get it. I Mean, it's something that

432
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: I've I've struggled with too, and even like this year

433
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 1: in Michigan, I'm like, man, I just want to even

434
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: though I had success already in Ohio, Like, man, I

435
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: love to shoot a deer with my boat in Michigan

436
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 1: really badly. And does that mean I do I change

437
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 1: my standards? Do I just not shoot any buck to

438
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: I give up on hunting bucks because there just isn't

439
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: one to my standards? Or do I still I don't know, Um,

440
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: It's something I'm sure a lot of people struggle with,

441
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: so I'm glad you brought it up, though. Damn. I'll

442
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,199
Speaker 1: put it to you this way. Let's say that the

443
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: government decided to stop all hunting all right today, there's

444
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: no more hunting. It's illegal to go out and kill

445
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: a deer. I would for fun and for excitement. I

446
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: would still probably take vacation during this time that time

447
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: of year and go sit in a tree stand. Yeah.

448
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: That that's crazy to think, but you know, you know,

449
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: in wacko world, that makes all the sense in the world.

450
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 1: It's funny you mentioned that. Um. We're really going off

451
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 1: on tangent here, but I'll just say this, Um, I

452
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: thought about the exact same thing this past weekend. So

453
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: I guess this is a relatable to because I'll tell

454
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 1: this story. So I'm down there in Indiana hunting by myself,

455
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: and then my my buddy Josh, he is hunting our

456
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: property down Ohio because he still didn't he feel his tag. UM.

457
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: So he's down there in Ohio and he's telling me

458
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 1: about the deer he's seeing, and we're looking at trail

459
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: camera pictures. Um. And even though I filled that tag,

460
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: I literally thought about just going down there and sitting

461
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: in a tree with my camera just to see these deer. Um,

462
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 1: especially on that property where I've got you know, there's

463
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: so many of these, you know, all the different stories

464
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 1: that are going on in this property. My my hunting

465
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: with Jawbreaker and Glenn, the buck I missed last year,

466
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: and all these different big bucks. So I've been catching

467
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: on trail camera I've been seeing and having counters with

468
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 1: I want to be down there, and I want to

469
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: see these deer and just watch them and capture them

470
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: on film and and be able to talk about those stories. UM.

471
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: That's what is so riveting for me. UM. So I

472
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 1: really seriously considered just scrapping the Indiana hunt and just

473
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: driving down the extra hour to Ohio and just sitting

474
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: on a tree and and watching. UM. I came really

475
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: close to doing it. I just realized I had to

476
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: actually get back here to do this podcast and catch

477
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: up on some other work. But if it wasn't for that, UM,

478
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: I probably would have done that. And I still might

479
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: go back down in January just to sit and I'll

480
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: have my bow and I could shoot a dough if

481
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 1: I saw one. UM. But yeah, there's not a whole lot.

482
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: It's not really a dough hunting farm. There's not a

483
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: whole lot of them. But um, I would just love

484
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 1: to see a couple of these deer again because, um

485
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 1: just fascinating animals, fascinating creatures. I love being out in

486
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: the wild and seeing these animals and learning about them. Um.

487
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: But but man, we are really going off in wild

488
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,719
Speaker 1: direction here. But let's get back to it. Let's get

489
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 1: back to it. Let's get back to it. I agree. UM,

490
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,719
Speaker 1: So you just told us about your plans in Iowa, right,

491
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: You're in goal of for food. You're going to uh

492
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: kind of fare things out as you go, but hopefully

493
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: come across a good food source and then you know,

494
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: take advantage of whatever opportunities might come. Um. Now, one

495
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: good thing here is we don't have snow. We we

496
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of snow on the ground. We

497
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: don't have any snow on the ground right now. Now,

498
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 1: A lot can happen in the next three weeks, um,

499
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: because my first day back in the tree stand is

500
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: going to be the very first weekend in January, and

501
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 1: then the Friday night and Saturday night of the following weekend.

502
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: So if there's no snow. It makes things even harder

503
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: because there is there is still. We had a huge

504
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: acorn crop this year and there's gonna be a ton

505
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: of acorns all over the timber. What the snow does, um,

506
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: is just helps concentrate these deer into the food sources,

507
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: so into the egg fields. So I'm gonna have a

508
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: lot of you know, kind of hoping and praying for

509
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: basically terrible weather, um those last two weeks. And when

510
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: I mean terrible weather, I'm talking in the negatives, negative numbers, UM,

511
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: not really bad wind, because they'll sit down for twenty

512
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: four hours even with terrible wind, um, so extremely cold

513
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: temperatures and uh, maybe maybe some snow on the ground

514
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: tail least cover everything that helps get things. You know,

515
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: they'll they'll start grouping up more. You'll see more, dear,

516
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: And if you can find that food source, man, that's

517
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: where it's at. Yeah. I am right there with you, UM,

518
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: And I think you know my maybe let me describe

519
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: my perfect ideal late season set up and hunt, and

520
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: I think maybe that will help us kind of talk

521
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: through some of these issues, um. In addition to what

522
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: you just did there, because a lot of everything ties

523
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: right into that Um, but I mean setting the stage right,

524
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: Like we talked about, these bucks have been hunted for

525
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: the past two months or more, so these deer are

526
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: on edge. They've been heavily pressured. Um, Like in your situation,

527
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: you know, guys doing drives to the property. These deer

528
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: are not like they used to be in early October.

529
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: They're not going to handle additional hunting pressure well at all.

530
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: So you know, there's very little room for air here.

531
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: So the heavily pressured now, like we talked about, already,

532
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: quality late season bedding cover is limited, so they're going

533
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: to be spending time when they do betted in these

534
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: limited areas of quality bedding cover. And then the most

535
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: important thing, like you just talked about, is those food sources.

536
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: And for the most part, you know, in some cases,

537
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: like you talked about, there's gonna be lots of acorns

538
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: and things, but more than any other time of the year,

539
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: great food is a limited resource for deer. So like

540
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: you said, you got to find those isolated food sources

541
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: where you can. Um, you know where those deer are

542
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: gonna eventually congregate and funnel two. So you've got less

543
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: food less over lots of pressure. What really comes down

544
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: to during the late season for me in my opinion,

545
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: and you can tell me if you think differently, But

546
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure on the same page here is it

547
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: really comes down to almost um. You need to it

548
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: needs to be a drone strike. You don't get a

549
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: lot of opportunities during the late season, but when those

550
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: couple right opportunities appear, you need to take advantage of

551
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: it and take advantage of it perfectly. So I'm looking

552
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: for a few things, these couple ideal conditions, and then

553
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: when I see them, I'm gonna go in on a

554
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: strike hard. UM. Now, what you're doing here depends on

555
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: whether you have property you can manage the habitat or

556
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: if you don't. UM. I'll give an example of a

557
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: property that can manage and then we can talk about

558
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: different things like a situation like yours where you don't

559
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: actually manage the habitat. You need to just work with

560
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: what nature gives you. UM. But on one of my

561
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: Michigan properties that I hunt, I can plant food plots

562
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: and do habitat improvements and whatnot. So what I do

563
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: is I specifically plan some of my food plot plannings

564
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: and some of my work on bedding cover to obtain

565
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: that quality late season food and late season cover. So

566
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: I've gone into a number of these spots that are

567
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: other already good betting areas, and I've done a bunch

568
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: of hinge cutting, which is you know, cutting a tree

569
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: part way in half, small trees and then bending them

570
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: down so they stay connected to the to the trunk,

571
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: but the top of the tree is down horizontal with

572
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: the ground. And what that does is it brings that

573
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: cover of the tree top down to the ground level.

574
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: But then that tree stays alive, produces new shoots, new leaves,

575
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: and also opens up the canopy so more sunlight comes

576
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: in this area, so you get more grassy cover, brush

577
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So I've done that in this

578
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: property and several areas over the past few years, and

579
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: it's created these clusters of really thick additional cover that

580
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: stays thick during the winter. So I've got good late

581
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: season betting. And then I'm going and I'm like I mentioned,

582
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: planning late season food plots that are going to be

583
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: productive this time of the year. And my favorite food

584
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: plot um for a guy like me who doesn't have

585
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: a lot of land or a big equipment or anything

586
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: something that you can plant in relatively small quantities um brassicas,

587
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: so brassicas. There are things that rape kale, turnips um,

588
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: that kind of thing that are these big leafy, kind

589
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: of lettuce type greens um that deer just love during

590
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: the late portions of winter. Really cool temperature is a

591
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: good frost makes these leaves really kind of sugary and

592
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: sweet to deer. And I'm very attractive. So what I'll

593
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: do is, um. You know, we had the rut, I

594
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: was hunting the rut, the gun season happens, I pull

595
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: out of most of my good Michigan properties during the

596
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: gun season, kind of let them become a sanctuary, and

597
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: then once the late season comes around, now I'm gonna

598
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: wait for these perfect conditions because I've got really good

599
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: late season food and I've got really good late season bedding.

600
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: So I know most likely where those deer bedded. I

601
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: know most likely where those deer will be feeding. It's

602
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: just a matter of now of catching those couple of

603
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: nights when the big buck I'm hunting will actually move

604
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: towards that food source during daylight. And so my whole

605
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: strategy now revolves around picking those right couple of days.

606
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: Because I'm a believer dan Um that if you're going

607
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: in there, you're hunting a lot during the late season,

608
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna ruin your your situation because these deer are

609
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: so on edge, they've been pressured all hunting season. You

610
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: just can't all the things that you know, even though

611
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: I preach it all the time. Right, we talked about

612
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: low pressure all year, Um, but sometimes you can get

613
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: away with something in October. You might make a mistake

614
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: in October or blow a deer off of food source

615
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: or something, and then still see him a couple of

616
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: weeks later. Um, that you'll get some forgiveness. But in

617
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: my opinion, I don't think you get that forgiveness in

618
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: the middle in the middle of December, because they've been

619
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: bumped and pushed and bothered for weeks and weeks and weeks.

620
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,239
Speaker 1: At this point, you know, if you screwed up one

621
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: more time, for most of these deer, especially a big

622
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: old deer, he's gonna say, forget this. I'm not dealing

623
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: this right now. So I think you have to wait

624
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: until the couple right situations to to risk that pressure.

625
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: And so what I'm looking for a couple of things

626
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: you talked about one frigid, nasty cold temperatures. You know,

627
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: just like you said, you want that tone numb and cold,

628
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: because that's really gonna get deer on their feet. And

629
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: if you're hoping for some additional daily activity, those frigid

630
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: cold days will be the ones where there's a chance

631
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,479
Speaker 1: that your big boy is gonna move a little bit

632
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: before dark number two. Again, just like you said, snow, um,

633
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna cover up food sources like acorns. Like you said,

634
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: it's also just gonna it's gonna cover up all sorts

635
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: of different types of food sources that normally would be

636
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: easily accessible. Now those deer need to search around a

637
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: little bit more. They need to dig up things a

638
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: little more. And with that cold and that snow, deer

639
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: just want to get up and feed, um sooner it

640
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: helps them. Getting moving around warms them up a little bit.

641
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: So really, I'm waiting for a huge coal front or

642
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: good snowstorm. When those two things hit, then I'm gonna think, okay,

643
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: and now where's the very most likely spot there and

644
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: had to feed? And then I'm gonna move in there

645
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna hunt it when those conditions are just right,

646
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: and that's kind of what my whole late season revolves around,

647
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: is waiting for those perfect conditions. When I get them,

648
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go in and I gonna hunt it, and

649
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna be kind of high risk, high reward. I'm

650
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: either going to get that kill, or I'm gonna get

651
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: an opportunity or come close, or it's just not gonna

652
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: work out at all. Um. One of the things I

653
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: would say, and I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this, Dan,

654
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: because you know we've um. This is something we talked

655
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: about during the early season two and we had slightly

656
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: different viewpoints. Um. But during the late season, I again

657
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: tend to avoid morning sits for the exact same reasons

658
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: why I avoid Morning six during the early season, I

659
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: avoid them during the late what's your opinion on that, Well,

660
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 1: that's great if you are a food source hunter. UM.

661
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: For me, I have had some good success in the

662
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: mornings late season as far as um uh okay, So

663
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: the past couple of years I have tried this tactic.

664
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: Go into a betting area knowing I am like late

665
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: in the day, knowing you're not gonna hunt it from

666
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: the opposite side, so you find the food source and

667
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: you find their betting area. You bumped the deer towards

668
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: the food source. Okay, set up and then just like

669
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: early season on a on a bump and dump, a

670
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: running gun type set up there. They go back to

671
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: a pattern. They're going back to a pattern, and yeah,

672
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: there is some pressure, but dear, one thing I've noticed

673
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: is that this only happens one time, typically with with

674
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: a bed, but they get away. They go, Hey, that

675
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: betting area was good. I'm safe there. I caught that problem.

676
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: And then depending on the wind, you hunt it and

677
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: when they come back to that betting area after feeding

678
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 1: all night. Um, I've done that a couple of times

679
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: um with some does and have been successful late season

680
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: because of that. Yeah, the old bumping dump that that

681
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: is something that I mean, I've heard of it time

682
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: and time again. It can definitely work. That's uh. Would

683
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: you agree though that, Like you said, it's usually like

684
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: one shot, right. If you go in there and you

685
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: don't pull it off that first time, you're especially when

686
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: I mean with does, you might get away a little more.

687
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,959
Speaker 1: But if we're talking to mature deer, you get maybe

688
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: one shot, maybe another one if you're lucky, but probably

689
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: it's a right. It's a swinger mess type proposition, right.

690
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: I mean, just like any bumping dump throughout the year

691
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: running a gun set up throughout the year. If you're

692
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: bumping a deer, and I don't care what time of

693
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: year it is, you might be able to get away

694
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: with it once, but you go in there again, uh

695
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: within you know, a short period of time and bump

696
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: them again. There you know, for the most part, they're done. Yeah,

697
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: you're you're done. So you know, I think that I

698
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: think that early mornings can be still good if you're

699
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: in a transition, you know, if you're at a pinch

700
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: point or or something leading back from a food source

701
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: to uh um, you know, to a bed. But I

702
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: also think not only are they going to the beds

703
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: after dark or going to the food sources typically after dark,

704
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: but they're also returning to the foods are to their

705
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: beds way before light most times. So again, it's that cold,

706
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: crappy weather that's going to to keep them on their

707
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: feet longer. It's going to force them to eat more

708
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 1: and uh so, so they're preparing for the winter, Yeah, definitely,

709
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: So I think, uh like we're right in the same

710
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: page there either way, whether you want to go in

711
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: the morning or evening. You know, on average, most of

712
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: the deer, especially the older deer, are going to be

713
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: waiting until dark to move in the evenings and then

714
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: be back to their beds during dark in the mornings,

715
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: except on these days where these conditions, like we said,

716
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: are conducive to that extra daylight movement. So I think

717
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: either whether you like to hunt evenings or mornings during

718
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: the late season, that's a like a surefire thing you

719
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: need to keep in mind, is that this time of year,

720
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: more often than not, it's gonna be after dark unless

721
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: you wait for these right conditions. So you know, my recommendation,

722
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: least for me. I know, you know, when you have

723
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: time to hunt, a lot of guys you gotta hunt right.

724
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: You just want to be out there and enjoying the

725
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: outdoors and stuff, and say, take advantage of whatever opportunities

726
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: you have. And I understand that, but if you have

727
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: flexibility with when you can hunt, I would really, you know,

728
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: recommend you try to make sure you're not wasting your

729
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: hunts on those days when it's super warm and lousy, um,

730
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: when there's a really low chance of seeing daily activity

731
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: and a high chance of you know, educating deer. I

732
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: would rather see you hold off on a few hunts

733
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: and wait until the right conditions and then go in

734
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: there when you've got a higher, higher odds of success.

735
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: So if you have that flexibility, that's the way to

736
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: do it. I would say. Um, you know another thing

737
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: that I would keep in mind, um, is you know

738
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: when you're moving into where you hunt. This is slightly

739
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: off topic, but related to to the betting piece. Um,

740
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: you know when these deer are moving into bed, whether

741
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: it be before or after daylight in the morning during

742
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: the late season. For the most part, most deer, especially

743
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: of the does, are betting a lot closer to food.

744
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,959
Speaker 1: They're not as apt to travel long distances between food

745
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: and betting if possible, if they have got if they've

746
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: got quality cover, near quality food. They want to make

747
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: the role as the world as small as possible this

748
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: time of the year, bucks and does and so this

749
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: is great if you can find out where that is,

750
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: because then, like you said, these deer are back on

751
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: those patterns, and they're tighter patterns usually than any other

752
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: time because of those limiting factors. So, um, if you

753
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 1: can find that little patch, you could be in the money,

754
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 1: but you also have that super high risk of blowing

755
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: it too, because the deer are much more concentrated. And

756
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: so I know I've I've had this happen. Um. I

757
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: thought if I found out where deer were feeding in

758
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: the um in the afternoons, and I had seen several

759
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: nights in a row a bunch of deer feeding out

760
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: into this cut corn field. Um, I didn't know where

761
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: they're betting. So one day I packed us some stuff

762
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: and I was gonna head in and I was gonna

763
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: try to hunt just the field edge. I was just

764
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: trying to just to see what was going on. And

765
00:39:58,760 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: I thought I could get to the edge of the

766
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: field and observe. Well, I'm hiking in and I kind

767
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: of crested over a slight hill. As I crested over

768
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: that hill, I can see the edge of the field,

769
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: and I can see where I want to hang my

770
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: tree stand. And as soon as they get over the hill,

771
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: like white tails burst out of the tall grass and

772
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: brush behind behind my tree where I was gonna hang

773
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 1: it up. They were betting not fifteen yards off the field.

774
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: And um, that's something I've seen time and time again.

775
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: These dear. You know, in situations where they can they

776
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: want to bed close to that food. So you need

777
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: a plan for that and identify whether or not you

778
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: can get into the spot you want to hunt in

779
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: the afternoon, um, without spooking deer. And you know, keep

780
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: that in mind when you're accessing your stand too. If

781
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna go walking past an area that's close to

782
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: a field edge where they might be betted, you need

783
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: to compensate for that. UM. So just another you know,

784
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: these are things that kind of a general rules that

785
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: we talked about and follow throughout the entire season, right,

786
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: I mean, early season's the same deal, um, But I

787
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: just feel like it's exaggerate it. At this time of year,

788
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: in my opinion, Um, everything becomes a little bit thinner

789
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: ice that you're walking on. Um. And so I just

790
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: think if at any time of a year that you're

791
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: willing to be detail oriented, this is the time to

792
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: do it. Um. Ironically, and unfortunately, it's also the time

793
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: of the year that for most of us we become

794
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: the least detail oriented, right because we've been hunting for

795
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: two months, we're tired, we're maybe down on our luck,

796
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: we're frustrated. Um. And so sometimes with those types of feelings,

797
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: I guess we tend to get a little lazy, at

798
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 1: least I do sometimes. Right, you're frustrated, sometimes you start

799
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: glossing over the details. But you have to try to

800
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: fight that because now is the time that those things

801
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: are the very most important. So I think that's that

802
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: for me. Their late season is all about battling fatigue,

803
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: almost mental fatigue, hunting fatigue. It's all about, you know,

804
00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: maintaining that mental edge and then executing on when when

805
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: you need to do it in the right way. Is

806
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: keeping all the details in mind, executing it the right

807
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: way at the right time without letting that fatigue and

808
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 1: um exhaustion of the whole season the way you're down,

809
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: Because if you can pull it off, it can be

810
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: great hunting, but you can very easily blow things if

811
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: you're if you're not really dotting your eyes and crossing

812
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: your teeth. Yep. So one quick um tip and this

813
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: bit is this is based off if your state allows

814
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: it or not. But because the movement is you know,

815
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: after dark a lot of times on this late season,

816
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: I like to use a spotlight and I will go

817
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 1: around two different areas that I can hunt, and I'll glass,

818
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: and i'll spotlight the uh the fields after the sun

819
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: you know, after dark and after the sun goes down.

820
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 1: Get an idea of where they may be coming out

821
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: at and then jump into the timber where you see

822
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: these deer and then work your way back in, follow

823
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: a trail if they're snow on the ground or um,

824
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: you know, a low spot where your fingers or something

825
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: like that, and then dump back in because typically they'll

826
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: have some kind of a staging area or they'll they

827
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 1: may stand up out of their bed and they won't

828
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: go straight to the betting area. They may mill around

829
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: an area for a little bit before um, you know,

830
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: before the coast is clear, so to speak. So spotlight

831
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: might be a good idea if your state allows it.

832
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: If not, UM, tough luck. Yeah, No, that's a great point. UM.

833
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: That's something about you know, I always talk about doing

834
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: more often, UM and I never occasionally do it. But

835
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 1: it's it's a great tactic. Another thing you could do too.

836
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: And again this there's some inherent risk in this, you know,

837
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: as we're talking about the need to you know, maintain

838
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: as low pressure of environment as you can. UM. But

839
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: if you're in an area if maybe maybe you have

840
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: the right conditions and you headed into hunt and it

841
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: didn't work out. But when you're walking in and out

842
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: of your stands and stuff, really pay attention to tracks

843
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: at this time of year two when when you have

844
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: snow cover, because at no other time really do you

845
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: get as good of an idea. UM is easily seen

846
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: tracks at least as when there's snow and something. Depending

847
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: on the snow cover and stuff, you'll be able to

848
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: see those tracks better or worse. But if you can

849
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: identify a particularly large track, now's a great time to

850
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: to use that information. See where he's coming in and

851
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: out of UM, you know, maybe pull a gym shocky

852
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: and even try to track him. So that's UM. That's

853
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: another thing to keep in mind, is you know, just

854
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: like at any other time of year, using all that

855
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: most recent information that you can come up with, whether

856
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: it be a you know, scouting via your spotlight at night,

857
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 1: or if you can find tracks, or if you've got

858
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: trail cameras, you know, take all those pieces of the puzzle,

859
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: put them together and add that to this to this

860
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: whole plan, and piece those things together to find out

861
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: the right time to strike in the right place. UM.

862
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: And you know I've said it before, but I really

863
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: feel like for me, it's I look at like a

864
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: drone strike. You have to do that intel. You've got

865
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: to get your UM, your information, and then once you

866
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: have the best possible UM idea of where that target is,

867
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: wait for the perfect conditions as best as you can,

868
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: and then you know, go in there and kill them

869
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: and perfect world works out. You know, more often than

870
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: not it's not going to but sometimes it does. Um.

871
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: You know, last year it worked out for me um

872
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: in Michigan. And I've told the story before, so I

873
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 1: won't go into detail with it, but you know, the

874
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: six shooter I killed last December was one of those

875
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: types of deals I I I would do this exact thing.

876
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: I had the good food and the good cover on

877
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: my main Michigan property. I said, okay, I'm not going

878
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: to hunt at all until I get the right weather

879
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: and right wind and right conditions. And I waited and waited,

880
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: and finally I got this big snowstorm come through and

881
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: the temperatures dropped down to the floor. I headed into

882
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: my best late season food source that first night after

883
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 1: that storm passed, and boom, I had an encounter a

884
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: six shooter. Now didn't work out for me that night,

885
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 1: but I almost did. Now fast forward four days later.

886
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: Two things that happened. Number One, the wind. It had

887
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 1: been windy the next couple of days after that storm

888
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: still passed. Um, the wind finally died down. We now

889
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: had like six inches of snow, freezing cold. And this

890
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: is the first day after that wind settled. It had

891
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 1: been blowing hard. Now it was down to almost nothing

892
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: to three miles a really cool, really crisp, great weather

893
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: for a hunt. Now I had seen six shooter back

894
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: on one of my food near one of my food

895
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: plots on this property, but I didn't get that that opportunity. Now,

896
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: a couple of days later, I hear from a neighbor

897
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: of the heat spotted a big buck on the opposite

898
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: side of this property, on another farm I can hunt

899
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: feeding in a cut corn field. So now I've got

900
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: another piece of intel. All right, big bucks on this

901
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: corn field. The wind just died down, Um, and my

902
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: wind direction was perfect to sneak into the spot um

903
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: and get away with what I thought would be a

904
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: wind I could live with, but would be a wind

905
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: any deer coming out to feed would think would be

906
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: relatively in their favor. So that's what I did. I

907
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: went straight and I got this piece of intel. I

908
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: found a way to sneak and really carefully so that

909
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: I wouldn't spook into deer, you know. As you know,

910
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: I literally crawled on all fours along the side of

911
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: this hill so I wouldn't expose myself to any deer

912
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: that might be bedded in the timber inside. Because I

913
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: was really confident that they weren't betting far from the

914
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: food again in this case, and that that ended up

915
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: being true. I crept on all four so I could

916
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: get around this hillside and then just set you know,

917
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: behind a tree on the ground. And it ended up

918
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: working out kind of just to a degree as I thought, right,

919
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: those deer were not betted too far within the food source.

920
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: They got up out of their beds, moved into the field.

921
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: Tons of dos piled into the cornfield feeding. Um. It

922
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 1: was just one of those perfect nights with a deer

923
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: on their feet, moving and getting on that food because

924
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: it's that first day where really they feel comfortable and um,

925
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: you know, as the story goes, eventually he did show

926
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 1: up and I got the shot, so so on of

927
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: those situations where you know, find the right spot, use

928
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: whatever piece of intel you have, and then wait to

929
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 1: the right moment. And uh, I think if you do that,

930
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: you can have really good success during the late season.

931
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 1: But you have to have that food almost in all cases.

932
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: That's that's a really big factor. So I think, um,

933
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: I think that might be the hinge that late season

934
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: success swings on. Yeah, sounds good. What do you think

935
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 1: are you? Did I remotivate you to get excited about

936
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: late season huntingdon man? I know my property and it's

937
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: gonna be tough. I mean, you can pump me up

938
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: all you want. But you know, the last couple of

939
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: years that I've sat in, um, you know, either the

940
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 1: weather wasn't right, wasn't cold, or I had oh jeez,

941
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: one day, one day, last day of the season. This

942
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: wasn't last year, but the year before I had an

943
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: encounter with you know, they're all grouped up. All these

944
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: doughs came through first, and on my trail camera, I had, um,

945
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: these these big deer coming through right at last light.

946
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: And then um, let's see, it was a Thursday in

947
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: the temperature the bottom just dropped right out and that

948
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: that night. When I got in, I checked the trail

949
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: camera and it was it got dark. And then I

950
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: came back the next evening and I know when I

951
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: checked my trail camera there daylight and daylight pictures of

952
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 1: um tons of like I think it was there. There

953
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: there all shooters this year, and they were shooters last

954
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: year too, But um, I'm kind of glad I didn't.

955
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: I didn't get an opportunity with them, if that makes sense.

956
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: But they came by right at last light, and to

957
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: be honest with you, they were just outside on my

958
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: shooting range, so I didn't take the shot. And uh,

959
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: that was really the only good in the past two

960
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: or three years, the only really good late season UM

961
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: hunts hunts I've had because I don't have those standing crops.

962
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: The only hope that I have this year is that.

963
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 1: And I hate to say this as a good thing,

964
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: but there was a death in one of the farmers families,

965
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: and when I left my vacation, they there was a

966
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 1: guy out there saying he did not know it could

967
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: be late, could even be this winner before they get

968
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: the crops out of the field. So there is a

969
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: chance that there's a cornfield still standing, and that might

970
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: be an opportunity for me. Yeah, well, like you said,

971
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: really unfortunate circumstances that created that, but a great hunting

972
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: opportunity there. So you know, as I I think a

973
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: lot of people probably relate to what you're talking about there,

974
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: just about how you know it's really always tough this

975
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: time of year for them and whatnot. And I, um,

976
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: there's something I wrote recently that I think is is

977
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: something to keep in mind. Um, it's something I can

978
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: tell myself a lot too, because I'll get down about two.

979
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 1: But even now, even when you know times are kind

980
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: of tough, pickings are slim, there's a chance, right, there's

981
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: a chance you can be out in the woods and

982
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 1: you might get that shot. And three months from now, Dan,

983
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: you and me are gonna be sitting here on the

984
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: podcast talking about deer and the season is gonna be closed,

985
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 1: and we would probably give anything to have a chance

986
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: to go on a tree and shoot a deer. Right.

987
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: We dream about that all year, So right now we

988
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: have that chance. It might be a slim one, but

989
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: we have it. So I'd encourage all the listeners out

990
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 1: there to uh to take advantage of that and uh

991
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: and who knows what will happen. That's a fact, Jack,

992
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 1: that is So what do you think should we should

993
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: we wrap things up here? I think first off, we

994
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: need don't we need to announce the contest winner? Well,

995
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: we do, but I don't know. I don't know. It

996
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like people want nozonics anyways, right, And there's

997
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 1: not a whole lot of interest, is there? I don't

998
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: think so. I can't believe how many people signed up

999
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: for this. I think there's a lot of folks that

1000
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: are excited to get of an ozonics to try. So, so, Dan,

1001
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: you want to, uh tell us who's gonna win this thing? Well,

1002
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: let me pick right now. Okay, Um, can you do

1003
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: your best attempt at a drum roll? Yeah? Can you

1004
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: hear this? Oh that's pretty good? Yeah, and it is. Okay,

1005
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 1: we are looking at John stein howerd John stein Howard.

1006
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: I just randomly went through it, um, and he is

1007
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: the winner of the osonics. So I'll get ahold of

1008
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: John and uh let him know that he won. Now,

1009
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: next week, we're also going to be doing another giveaway,

1010
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: and that's for We're gonna have two winners next week

1011
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: and that's for two different sticking picks. So same thing

1012
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 1: as what we did with the osonics. Um, you gotta

1013
00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 1: like the post, you gotta like, uh, the Facebook of

1014
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: Wired to Hunt the nine Finger chronicles. We're gonna be

1015
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: giving away to sticking picks. We're gonna pick two winners

1016
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: and so can first off, congratulation to John for winning

1017
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: the osonics, and then you know, two more winners next week,

1018
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: and then you know, who knows what we're gonna have

1019
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: the following week. We may have some more free stuff

1020
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 1: to give away, I think so. And uh, just for

1021
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: anyone that doesn't know what a sticking pick is, right, Dan,

1022
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: it's a it's a trail camera stand that you know,

1023
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: you can stick in the ground. There's a couple different models.

1024
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm not sure which one you have, but it's a

1025
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: really cool way to to get your trail camera in

1026
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: locations that maybe there's not a tree at all or

1027
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: the right tree. Um, I've really come to love mine,

1028
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: So it's a great it's a great product. Teach your

1029
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: hands on. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm getting to the point

1030
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: now where I almost would rather have my camera on

1031
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: a stick and pick than on a tree. Yeah, they're

1032
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: they're pretty darn handy, So that's uh, that'll be another

1033
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 1: cool giveaway next week. So all right, John Steinhouer, alright,

1034
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: John Steinhauer, all right, John's the man. Well, Daniel'll be

1035
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 1: getting in touch with John and um, we'll have all

1036
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: this information on weird hunt dot com as well. That's

1037
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: weird Hunt dot Com slash episode thirty five this week. UM,

1038
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: so keeping out for more details. And I guess I'll

1039
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: wrap up the show here, call it, call it a day.

1040
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: So I hope you guys enjoyed the show. Um, you

1041
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: know this will be our topic over the next couple

1042
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: of weeks. We're gonna keep on talking about different things

1043
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: related to the late season, UM, and hopefully can help

1044
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: you guys kind of close out the year on a

1045
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: on a high note, put some venos in the freezer,

1046
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: and maybe even tag that big old buck you've been chasing.

1047
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: If you have enjoyed the show, you know, as we

1048
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: always say, if you could leave us a rating or

1049
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 1: review on iTunes, it would be incredible. UM. I can't

1050
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 1: tell you how much this helps us out. UM. We've

1051
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: already gotten way more reviews than almost any other podcast

1052
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: in the kind of similar category as us, and I

1053
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: think it's because you guys are take the time and

1054
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: effort to share your thoughts on the podcast, and UM,

1055
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: it's helping a lot, so I appreciate that. And UM,

1056
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: I can't talk a whole lot about what's coming, but

1057
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 1: there's just some really cool stuff coming for the podcast. UM,

1058
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: I'm super excited about secret. Um, Danny, you don't even

1059
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: know some of the stuff, so it's it's super tough secret.

1060
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be your right hand man, I know,

1061
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: but UM, basically, Danny, where we're moving you as a

1062
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: co host and it's just gonno no, But there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be some cool stuff. UM. It just seems like there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of great feedback coming in about the podcast

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Speaker 1: and we're just gonna keep on doing more and getting

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Speaker 1: as much as we possibly can and telling these stories.

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Speaker 1: So look for a lot of really neat stuff to

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Speaker 1: why it's possible is because of you guys, So thank

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Speaker 1: you for that. Like I mentioned, weird Hunt dot Com

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Speaker 1: show notes and links from today and voting details Again

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Speaker 1: else that we um, you know, think might be relevant

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Speaker 1: we also want to thank our partners who helped make

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Speaker 1: thank you too, Sick of Gear, Trophy, Ridge Bear Archery,

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Speaker 1: of North America that all said, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining us here today on the Wired Hunt Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Take advantage of the late season. Take advantage of that chance,

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Speaker 1: because not too long from now you're gonna be sitting

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Speaker 1: now you can be, So get out there, hunt hard,

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