WEBVTT - Justin Thomas 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.960 If I do win Augusta this year, you know, I 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.080 think that I need to make sure it happens that 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:07.360 you and I go on a trip to Augusta together. 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:09.880 I'll find a member to host this and and I 0:00:09.880 --> 0:00:11.559 think we should do that. What do you think about that? 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:15.920 I'm in No, you don't say you are no, I 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:18.720 am in how noble of you? 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:26.079 All right? 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:30.320 My name is Justin Thomas, and I am Brian's biggest fan. 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:41.000 Hello once again, and welcome once again to Off the 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:45.040 Beat once again. I am your host, Brian Bombgartner. Should 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:46.600 I say that once again? 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:47.440 Uh? 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:52.080 My guest today is PGA Tour professional and my friend 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:58.120 Justin Thomas. Justin, if you don't know, is a legend. 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:01.000 He's set more records than I can count. He's won 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:05.600 two PGA championships, and he has been world number one 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:10.360 in the official World Golf rankings twice. So when you 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:15.119 run numbers on this that is one and one, which 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:18.000 is two? No, that can't be right, because he's number one. 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:24.200 One plus one is ultimate one supreme. Pretty sure it's 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:28.000 something like that. Anyway, Justin dominates the sport of golf 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:31.920 and he's only thirty. Honestly, he might be the only 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:35.640 person on the planet that I would not bet with 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:38.680 on the golf course. I am aware that all of 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:43.119 my worldly wisdom and mind games means absolute but gus 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.399 against him. I know it's hard to believe, but I 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:49.240 would take a pass. Justin and I had this conversation 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:52.440 as he was preparing to play in the Arnold Palmer 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:56.639 Invitational this last weekend. He played very well, finished T 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:02.080 twelve in difficult conditions on a very very difficult golf course, 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:06.320 which he discusses with us today. Not too shabby. Let's 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:09.200 ask him how he does it, shall we? And along 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:12.040 the way, I want to get some insight into his past, 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:16.240 his future, and well the future of professional golf. There's 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.639 a lot going on in the world of golf these days. 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:23.240 And we will also ask him how it feels to 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:27.280 fulfill your three life goals, all while under the age 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:33.200 of thirty. Here he is the talented, the prodigious Justin 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:42.639 Thomas Burble and Squeak. I love it, Burble and Squeakna 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:45.840 Burble and Squeak. 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:50.320 I could get every mon lift over from the ninety four. 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:01.680 What's happening? 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:02.720 How are we doing? 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:06.520 Oh my god, it's so good to see you. What's 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:07.040 going on? 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:09.560 Like that you were that Georgia sweater. 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:10.280 I need you do that. 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.920 Well, you know, I woke up this morning. I'm actually 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:14.840 too tiered here. 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:15.560 Okay. 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:17.800 I woke up this morning and I put this on 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:21.239 because I knew I was gonna be talking to you today. Well, 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.080 I mean, I guess we can just we can just 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:25.760 start with my first question. How are you feeling about Saban? 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:30.280 I saw you saw him over the weekend. How are 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.960 you feeling with mister Saban going bye bye? 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:38.680 I'm I'm a little unsure. Maybe at the moment I 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.680 joked with people, I felt like like a family member 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:43.840 of mine had like passed away with the amount of 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:47.400 people reaching out or like hey, condolences to you and 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:50.560 I'm so sorry. It's like, guy, it's just he just retired, 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:55.000 like it's gonna be okay, but it is wild. I think, 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.040 you know, you can't go on those kind of runs forever. 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.440 So I'm you know, I got I got faith in 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.600 a new coach. But yeah, there's only one Sabing. 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:08.000 I mean he was there when you were in school, right, yeah, 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:12.280 So I mean he's been everything that you know about Alabama. 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:16.640 Right, It's exactly right, yeah, some of Yeah. I mean 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:18.680 I only went to college two years and I was 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:22.680 two for two on football national championships and undefeated season. 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:28.000 Although I will say I was, I wasn't still am 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.159 except for a couple of times a year a Kirby 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:33.880 Smart fan, although every year that goes by, he's really 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:35.440 making me want to hate him a little bit. 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:42.120 So we'll see. Well, I was speaking to somebody last week. 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:45.920 It's actually it was it was Chris Long. It's a 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:49.120 tough road here with that they have to go to 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:56.320 Tuscaloosa Georgia does and to Austin Late Texas new new 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:59.840 SEC team. This is it's gonna well, at least there's 0:04:59.880 --> 0:05:02.200 two teams getting the playoffs because of course, you know 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.960 that Georgia should have been last year, right you know that? 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:06.480 Uh yeah, I'm not. 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:08.880 I'm not sure what she what you're talking. 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:12.159 About, but interesting, funny, weird. 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.960 I don't know about you, but I'm having a very 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:20.120 difficult time with Texas being relevant in football. Like I'm 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:21.479 just I'm not enjoying. 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:21.760 It at all. 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:27.760 Yeah, it's like the Southwest is is back, I guess, 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:30.839 and we've been so comfortable down there in the Southeast 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:35.000 for so long. It's uh, it's it's tough. I don't 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:36.680 know they're going to be good, right, I. 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:37.080 Know, I know. 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:39.800 Maybe it's because I'm around Jordan Speed as much as 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:43.360 I am, but uh, I you know, some of us 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:46.719 were joking. It's like if if Texas somehow would have 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:49.560 won the national championship without having to go through Alabama 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:51.680 or Georgia, I don't know. If I could have shown 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.239 my face, I would have been so mad. 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:59.159 Well, it'll certainly be interesting now that they joined the 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.960 Big Boy League down there in the South. I do 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:06.000 want to talk about why you ended up choosing Alabama, 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.760 but first I should say good luck. Did you have 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.719 practice today? You're there for the Arnold Palmer this weekend? 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:12.200 Is that right? 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:12.839 Yeah? 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:13.160 Yeah? 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.800 And uh yeah, just practice today. You know, Behill is 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:18.919 one of those places that never really changes. It's just 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:22.080 hard and it's right in front of you. So yeah, 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:24.080 just just got a little work in and you're in 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:25.520 lovely Orlando. 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.720 Well, I also have to mention you made a lot 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.960 of news over the weekend in addition to being there 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:37.280 at the Big Alabama Tennessee basketball game with coach Saban 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:45.279 my dad, the member pro list at Seminole Country Club. 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:51.920 This got a lot of press, weirdly and social media input. 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:53.719 How did that did you win? 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:54.960 We did not. 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:58.640 My partner Mike Wallrath and I. We won last year 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:03.600 the gross division. It's unbelievable. Like, I mean, you saw 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.200 that list of that field, Liss Like every year it's 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:06.560 like that. 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:08.360 I mean, it is, It's insane. 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:12.240 I was joking and luckily as you saw it. You know, 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:14.040 we played with Tiger, which is a lot of fun. 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:15.800 But he was like, I can't believe how good the 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:17.560 field is, and I was like, dude. The first year 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.680 I played in this, I was on the corn Ferry that, 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.800 you know, the web dot Com Tour, and like, you know, 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:27.280 I just grinded out like a T thirty three and 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:30.240 made like twenty seven hundred dollars and like, I go 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.360 to this tournament and this is far and away the 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:36.240 best players I've played with and against. And it was 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.120 a pro am, so it was kind of funny. 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.840 Okay, I you know, I hadn't thought about this. Let 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:45.120 me ask you a question. What would it take to 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:49.400 get you to come back to the corn Ferry Tour 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:53.440 and be my partner at the BMW Championship in Greenville, 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:56.480 Like what would it take to get I mean, are 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.720 you allowed to go down a division? Is that allowed? 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:04.440 I honestly, I actually do not think it is allowed. 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.960 It's not allowed. Why wouldn't it be allowed. You want 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:11.120 to pick up another pro win, you come play with 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:15.280 me at the BMW. Everyone will be intimidated by both 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:17.880 of us, by the way, Yeah, yeah, I mean that's 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:19.800 an idea. I hadn't considered that. 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.360 You know, we have a lot of things going on 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:25.320 in the golfing world, and I'm sure if I went 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.600 to our commissioner with in the board but this, they 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:29.600 would be like, really, justin this is this is what 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:33.000 you're hitting us with, Like all these multi billion dollar 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:35.000 deals are trying to negotiate, and you want to know 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.160 if you can play in a corn fairy program? 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:42.079 Did you ever play in that event? I did have 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.679 been before my time, Okay I. 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:47.439 Did, yeah, yeah, twenty fourteen. 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:51.800 Okay, wow, yeah, I think we just barely missed each other. 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.800 I played, not partners with I'm not gonna mention my 0:08:55.880 --> 0:09:00.640 partners because we haven't won with Homa. One year was 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:02.880 in the Forsome Harry Higgs. 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:03.559 Wow. 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:08.160 One year was in the forsome. I keep I keep 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:11.199 getting without any disrespecting my partners. Most of the time 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:12.680 it's been my fault. Let's be clear. 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:14.680 I was going to ask, you know, you said we 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:16.680 haven't won yet, and I, you know, is that a 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:18.959 is that a you problem? Or is that a them problem? 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:22.760 Or you know, team cabaraderie or you know what would 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:23.840 you put the blame on. 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:28.000 Let me just say this, at least twice my partner 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:32.600 has finished dfl mm hmm. That's dead fucking last. No, 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:35.480 I know, yeah, we're not. We're not clear on that. 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:38.920 So let me just say it's hard to win. It's 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:41.880 hard to win when your partner does you. 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.080 Need to play really well. 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:48.920 Or yeah, or it was exactly I was going to 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.840 say that I have to. Although I will say without 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:55.760 mentioning again anybody by name, the winners of Pebble Beach 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:59.440 is always amazing to me, the pro am winners, because 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:01.760 many times times there are people that I have played with. 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:07.319 Let's just I'm just gonna leave it a handicaps well thirteen, Yeah, 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:14.560 exactly exactly, talking to you, Gretzky. 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:16.520 Names, but no, not to It starts with twist Aaron Rodgers. 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:22.880 I didn't listen. I'm not called you. That was that 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:28.959 was justin Thomas JT said, He shmarrined it for sure. 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:32.600 All right, you grew up actually near I don't think 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:37.040 we've ever talked about this near my family's heritage. That's 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:40.319 not the way you say it. Uh. Fort Thomas, Kentucky 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:43.920 is where my dad hails from, in the great area 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:48.880 of Sinskentucky. Now, I mean, if you weren't good at golf, 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:53.040 there would be a problem. Because your grandfather played and 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:59.240 compete competed nationally a couple of PGA's right, he played 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:03.600 in a couple of your dad a PGA head pro 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:09.280 for about forty years. There wasn't a question early on 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.199 about whether you would play right. You were just this 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:15.880 is what you do as a Thomas I'd say. 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:19.600 So, I mean, I you know, I like sports. I 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.440 played not well, but you know, I played kind of 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:26.000 the all the sports that little little kids play growing up. 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:32.040 You know, your baseball, your soccer and whatnot, basketball, but 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:34.800 I kind of sucked at all of the other ones. 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:38.400 So I knew that if I wanted to continue my 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:42.000 life and potentially become a professional athlete, if you want 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:44.800 to call us golfers. Golf was my only chance. But 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.080 I loved it. I just I. 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:48.080 Couldn't get enough of it. 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.040 And you know, I grew up in that era of 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:54.240 Tiger Woods and watching him just dominate and do things 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:56.560 nobody else could do. So I was pretty inspiring to 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:57.760 a you know, seven eight. 0:11:57.720 --> 0:11:58.280 Nine year old. 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:01.439 Well, I was going to ask you about Tiger now. 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:05.640 It seems as though, because I know how this works, right, 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:07.959 I mean, I've played in a bunch of big events 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:11.520 and oftentimes there are a few people who get to 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:13.880 decide who their partners are and who they play with 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:17.200 and what time they go off, it seems like it 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:21.400 is a contractual obligation for Tiger to show up that 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:25.160 he has to play with you. Now, I don't know 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.200 if anyone else has mentioned this, or if this is 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:32.640 just like this is just random that every time, you know, 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:34.920 you just mentioned on Monday you guys are playing together. 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.560 First off, I read and of course rewatched the video 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:43.240 at Valhalla in two thousand. Your dad had access and 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:47.760 you were actually there when he made his famous stalking 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:51.400 pointing putt there. What kind of an influence did that 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:52.800 moment have on you? 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:55.160 That week was massive? 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:56.959 And I've he knows that. 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.520 I've told him that many many times. You know, I 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:01.800 think when you're you know, I was seven years old 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.480 at the time, and it's like when you're able to watch, 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:06.439 you know, if you play a sport. 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.080 Like I did golf, and you're you're able. 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.360 To watch that sport at the highest level, and not 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:13.160 only that, but your favorite player. I mean, it was 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:16.400 an unbelievable tournament. It was a crazy shootout between him 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:17.720 and Bob Ay. 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:19.880 Somebody that a lot of people hadn't. 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:21.200 Heard of, and he was kind of being, you know, 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.360 the David versus Goliath kind of thing, and it was 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:27.160 just just the roars and the energy. And the Midwest 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:29.840 can be very passionate in terms of sports fans, so 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.200 I think that Louisville was very into it. 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:32.959 We don't get a. 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.440 Lot of golf other than at Valhalla for. 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:35.960 The most part. 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:38.280 I mean, you're seven years old, right, like you might 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:40.400 want to be like a race car when you wake 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:42.640 up the next day, you don't know. But when I 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.120 left there, I remember that week being like, you know, 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:48.400 this is that was awesome kind of thing, Like I 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:49.880 want I want one of the I want one of 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:51.200 those trophies, like he has you. 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:54.560 Want one of them? Yeah, well, I mean you have 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:56.360 a couple of them now, So that's that was a 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:59.600 good That was a good goal. What why do you 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:03.439 guys get along so well? Now? 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:07.040 I mean, first, I just think we were very similar 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:11.960 in the sense of our personalities and competitive. We're both 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.760 very very competitive. We're both smart asses, so I think 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.800 we both we get along in that sense. But I 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:22.760 think I think he sees and respects how much I 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:26.200 and I don't know this, how much I love golf 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:29.120 and how much like I want to be the best 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.720 sometimes probably too bad. And you know, I think there's 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.800 a part of him that respects that. But he, you know, 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:38.240 he's been used to probably his entire life of people 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.360 kind of kissing up to him or telling him what 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:43.560 he wants to hear or Yeah, there's plenty of times 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.280 when I, you know, I remind him of things he's 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.320 done and great, but I definitely don't let his head 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.720 get too big, and I definitely not keep him in 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:55.640 his place, because it's not really arguments or battles that 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:58.800 I can ever win, But I like to keep him humble. 0:14:58.800 --> 0:14:59.640 From time to time. 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:04.800 You play in and you win your first junior event, 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:09.000 at eight years old playing twelve and under. There's a 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:12.560 big difference between twelve and eight. By the way, when 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:16.560 you're a kid, how many tournaments are you playing? Like 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.640 are you treating golf as a job or is it 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:21.040 still fun for you? 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:23.560 Like, yeah, it was very, very fun. 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:27.840 I don't know. I mean, I was so young, it's 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.800 hard to say. I mean, I you know, I don't know. 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.760 I wasn't old enough to understand or realize the amount 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:37.040 of time and money that my parents were spending. And 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:39.280 I mean, my dad's working and my mom is driving 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:42.720 me at all these tournaments in Indiana and around you know, 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:47.000 Kentucky and Ohio, Pennsylvania, like, you know, all these places. 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:49.560 And you know, I would like to think I'm old 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.640 and mature enough now to appreciate that and understand. And 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:54.840 you know, they made a lot of sacrifices for it. 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:56.960 But maybe they were like me, and they saw that 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.080 I wasn't good at anything else, so that maybe they 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.240 just need to put all these eggs in this golf 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:06.280 basket and uh open open doubts. So I'm glad I 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:07.080 was able to do. 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:11.320 That, all right. So here's the difference between you and I. 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:13.840 When I was a kid, these other sports that you're 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:17.200 referring to. I was I was all right, it was 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:19.320 I mean, you know you've seen me shoot the rock. 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:22.480 I mean you know, I was all right. Here was 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:26.080 the thing. I didn't play golf. Do you think if 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:29.760 I had started that early that I could be as 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:30.200 good as you? 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:33.480 Now, how do you want me to answer this? 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:38.120 I didn't start. I didn't start. I didn't start until 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:42.080 after college. I mean you were playing before I was, 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.000 and I'm a couple of years older than you. Yeah, 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:49.920 I mean this is I missed those very formative years, right. 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.560 You know, I'll say, I'll give you a chance that 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:58.800 I think, yeah, you know, you could have been you 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:02.040 could have been something special. But you know, whatever I 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.720 end up in my career, it's just it's going to 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.439 be one less for the sake of my own well being. 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:10.399 I can't sit here comfortably or go to sleep at 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:14.080 night knowing that I said, yeah, you would have been 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:15.760 as good as me, for sure. You know. 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:20.919 I no, I don't obviously think I would be as 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:26.159 good as you. But I do, like I regret not 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:30.119 having started early, like I really, I really do. And 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.800 I found golf, you know, I mean I had all 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.439 the other sports for reasons that we don't need to 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:39.399 go into. I had moved on and I was doing theater, 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:42.520 and for me, golf was about trying to get outside 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:47.000 and compete because I was competitive as well, and find 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:48.600 something that would get me outside, and that's where I 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:52.320 found golf. But I really do wish. It's such a great, 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:58.040 even for not professionals, just such a great lifetime game 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.280 to be able to do. And I I it's funny 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:04.280 when I play with people now and I see their swings, 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:09.720 I can almost always know, yeah, who's been doing it longer? 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:14.080 Yeah, it is. It's such a unique and interesting game. 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:17.399 And it is because it's you and I. You know, 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.360 we we okay, we we love basketball or we love 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:25.840 college football, but we we can't do anything that emulates 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:30.440 what they're doing like you can if you go play 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.840 Augusta National. Like that's one thing. Okay, it's not set 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.560 up the same as a tournament whatever. I understand that. 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:38.959 But you're still hitting. You can still hit the shots. 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.600 You can stand in the back of the eighteenth green 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:43.720 at Torrey Pines and you can hit that plot to 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.520 the front left pen that Tiger made on Saturday at 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:49.680 the US Open, like you can physically do that. But yeah, 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:54.520 like I can't catch a pass from you know, Jalen 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:57.600 Milroe with the best cornerback covered, Like that's just it's 0:18:57.640 --> 0:18:58.560 not a real thing. 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:03.160 So yeah, but not everyone can hit a three wood 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:05.960 two hundred and ninety nine yards in a professional tournament 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:09.320 and shoot sixty three. So I hear the point that 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:12.160 you're making. You can all you could hit the same shot. 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:16.760 There is there is still there's still there's still a 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:22.520 layup versus dunking like there is still like there is still. 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:24.919 You're playing it on like an eight foot rim, how 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:26.520 about that? 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:29.320 That's right? You know it's funny though, I know you 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:31.960 know you know this. I mean you you've probably done 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:33.800 it when you were a kid all the time. But 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:36.800 you just brought up Tory Pines and I remember the 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:40.520 kind of Tiger's first tournament back after a long layoff 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:43.440 of Tory Pines and the crowds were crazy, and it's 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:47.399 near my house. So I went down. I watched and gosh, 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:50.440 I can't remember what I'm gonna totally screw up the hole, 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:54.080 but par three down the hill. It's before you go 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:57.119 into the big horseshoe with the the par five coming up. 0:19:57.200 --> 0:20:00.000 I don't know what it is. Anyway, I watched him 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:03.960 play it and make four. I had the opportunity to 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:07.320 play it on Monday a couple of days later, same tease, 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:11.200 hit it to two feet, make the putt, make two. 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:16.199 I mean so in my brain, I go and one 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:19.840 up on Tiger. After this, we start on this whole 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:23.719 one up, right, I mean, like that speaks to what 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:28.400 you're talking about, Like, but it's the length, the longevity, 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:49.720 whatever that that becomes much more of a of a problem. 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:52.520 I think it was Phil Nicholson, and I don't remember 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:55.800 what he was talking about, but he was talking about 0:20:55.880 --> 0:21:00.760 the concentration thing and how difficult it is. I think 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:03.360 about this all the time, which is probably not helpful, 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:07.760 Like how difficult it is to focus on every shot 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:10.120 for four hours. And he was talking about, you know, 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:13.000 if he can maximize this or that, you know, and 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:16.159 can focus for ninety two or ninety six percent of 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:20.040 the time, like that's like amazingly optimal. I think about 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:22.879 that all the time and how many shots that I 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:27.000 lose just because I'm not really focused in that moment. 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:29.600 How much of a challenge is that even for you 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:32.919 playing professionally now or is that just you've got that 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:33.640 dialed now? 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:39.120 No, I definitely, I definitely don't. I think that there 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:42.720 is something to be said about that. And yeah, I 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:44.880 mean Tiger was the best at it. I mean, obviously 0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:47.760 his skill was to another level. But I mean I 0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:51.120 think brooks Kepka is a perfect example and major championships 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:55.560 like he he finds a way to not make any 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:58.800 stupid mistakes and not take any you know, he's not 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:01.760 focused to the point where he's trying too hard, but 0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:05.000 he's giving every shot his attention, if that makes sense, 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:08.159