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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 1: My name is Justin Thomas, and I am Brian's biggest fan.

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Speaker 4: Hello once again, and welcome once again to Off the

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Speaker 4: Beat once again. I am your host, Brian Bombgartner. Should

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Speaker 4: I say that once again?

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Speaker 4: My guest today is PGA Tour professional and my friend

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Speaker 4: Justin Thomas. Justin, if you don't know, is a legend.

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Speaker 4: He's set more records than I can count. He's won

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Speaker 4: which he discusses with us today. Not too shabby. Let's

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Speaker 4: And we will also ask him how it feels to

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Speaker 4: Thomas Burble and Squeak. I love it, Burble and Squeakna

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Speaker 1: I could get every mon lift over from the ninety four.

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Speaker 4: What's happening?

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Speaker 1: How are we doing?

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's so good to see you. What's

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Speaker 1: Like that you were that Georgia sweater.

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Speaker 3: I need you do that.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I woke up this morning. I'm actually

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Speaker 4: I woke up this morning and I put this on

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Speaker 4: I mean, I guess we can just we can just

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Speaker 4: start with my first question. How are you feeling about Saban?

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Speaker 4: I saw you saw him over the weekend. How are

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm a little unsure. Maybe at the moment I

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Speaker 4: Well, it'll certainly be interesting now that they joined the

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Speaker 4: Okay, I you know, I hadn't thought about this. Let

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Speaker 4: It's not allowed. Why wouldn't it be allowed. You want

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Speaker 4: One year was in the forsome. I keep I keep

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Speaker 4: Well, I was going to ask you about Tiger now.

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Speaker 4: I didn't start. I didn't start. I didn't start until

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Speaker 1: up in the row, it in the trash, and but

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00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,719
Speaker 1: you try to force that and you're like, well, this

438
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: is what I'm gonna do, so this is what I

439
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, you have to you have to

440
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: take just all the outside influences into account. And I mean, honestly,

441
00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,120
Speaker 1: a great example for me is the uh the BMW

442
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: in two thoy nineteen uh Madinah. I was hitting it

443
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: so bad, just I couldn't find anything all week on

444
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: the range, Like my dad, we just we couldn't find anything.

445
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: And I literally was going to the first tea on

446
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 1: Thursday of the tournament like I got nothing, Like I

447
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 1: got no, I don't know what to think, what to

448
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: do whatever. And my caddy Jimmy at the time, I

449
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: was like I do, Like we just have to just

450
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 1: play really smart and just kind of literally pick our

451
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: way around here to the point where if I have

452
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: an iron, like just hit the green, like I can't

453
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 1: be trying to hit it close whatever.

454
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 4: You're playing like me, Dan, You're just like PA, hit

455
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 4: the green.

456
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, except I went on to shoot twenty six

457
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: under and win that week, and you know, no offense

458
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: to you. But I don't know if that would have happened,

459
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 1: you know. But that's but to my point, I just

460
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: remember literally just going about and I'm like, okay here,

461
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 1: and then I was like okay, yeah, like I found

462
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 1: a little something here and then kind of get that

463
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: through the first day and then maybe do a little

464
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: work afterwards. Friday, it's kind of the same kind of thing,

465
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: and that all of a sudden Saturday, everything just clicked

466
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: and then it was like, see a pin hit at

467
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:09,959
Speaker 1: the pin.

468
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 3: See a pin hit at the pin.

469
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: Now it's not always that easy, but that's at least

470
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: what I found over my career is the game plan

471
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: has to change sometimes based off of what's happening.

472
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's true. I'm not going to relate

473
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 4: everything back to me, but you know, for me on

474
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 4: a base level, it's about the driving range before. Yeah, right,

475
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 4: and this is this is a tournament. These are scores

476
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 4: that are going to be recorded for all of history.

477
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 4: And I go and I hit a few balls and

478
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 4: play really well day one. So the next day, what

479
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 4: am I going to do. I'm going to get up early.

480
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna yeah, I mean, I just make a couple

481
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 4: of little tweaks here and there, and this can get

482
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 4: to be a real number. My day after that disaster,

483
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 4: you know what coming there. So then the third day,

484
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, screw it, Let's have a couple of cocktails

485
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 4: and keep things loose. Let's just let's just rip it

486
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 4: off of one. It's it's so fascinating to me. If

487
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 4: I could figure it out, I'd be better than I am.

488
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 4: I don't know that I would be good, but I

489
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 4: mean that part for me is really tough, that you know,

490
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 4: what is the best way how can I adjust to

491
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 4: what my swing is? And then suddenly I'm out there

492
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 4: on the course and it totally changes.

493
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think to a different level. But I mean,

494
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: we've all gone through what you just said, and I

495
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 1: to me, it's it's something I'm honestly been working on

496
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: right now. It's it's all expectations. You know, how many

497
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: times you go out and you haven't touched a club

498
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: and however long, and you go play around the golf

499
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: and you're like, wow, like I actually played kind of

500
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: nice today, and then yeah, you go next day you're

501
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: like yeah, like telling your buddies like I played great.

502
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: And then it's like you have this expectation in your

503
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: head of like I'm playing.

504
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 3: Good, everything's going to get and then you start thinking.

505
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: About what could happen, what you could choose, all these things,

506
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: and then you just don't play well. And that's yeah,

507
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: that is one thing I think is very unique about

508
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: golf in comparison to other sports, because so many other

509
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: sports are you're reacting and like real time fast time

510
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: of like the pitcher through this pitch, I have to

511
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: hit it. You know that. In basketball, I'm this defender

512
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: when over here, so I'm going to go this way?

513
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 3: And you know you don't.

514
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: You obviously have the time between games or timeouts when

515
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: you're out, whatever you want to call it.

516
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 3: But just how often in golf.

517
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: You have te long walk you have you have the

518
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: opportunity to think about so many things that you just

519
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: shouldn't think about.

520
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what just reminded me of this.

521
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 4: I'm sure you hear this, and again it goes to

522
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 4: your point like where it's actually not this, It is

523
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 4: can you hit a two hundred and nine or nine

524
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 4: yard three wood in a major to make eagle? But

525
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 4: in a program, I'm sure you hear this every single

526
00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 4: program from a guy the like casual you know, walking

527
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 4: off of the T box, Like, man, I don't know

528
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 4: what's up with me today. I shot seventy four. Shot

529
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 4: seventy four a couple of days ago. I mean, you

530
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 4: must hear that all the time, and you gotta think like, well,

531
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 4: of course, of course, well one, maybe you didn't, but

532
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 4: of course you're like, well, you're out here, you're playing

533
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 4: with me, dumb ass, you're playing there's some people around.

534
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 4: You're not supposed to shoot seventy four, right, You hear

535
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 4: that at least once a pro am round, right, yeah?

536
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: Like, oh, I usually hit my eat in one sixty.

537
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: I don't understand, Like it's.

538
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, why did I come up short of the bunker?

539
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 4: It's so weird, it is.

540
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: And I I've said this so many times in so

541
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: many whether it's like a a podcast or a pro

542
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: am dinner the night before or something, or I tell

543
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: it to their face, you know, they what's your biggest

544
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: piece of advice? I'm like, honestly, I'm sorry to say this,

545
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: but you're not supposed to be good, Like I expect

546
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: you to suck. So don't like, stop thinking that you're

547
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: good because you're not. Number one and two, I don't

548
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: expect you to be so.

549
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 4: You hit a couple of good shots, I'm gonna be impressed.

550
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like any shot that you think is the worst

551
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: that you've ever hit, it's not, or that I've seen

552
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: it's not. I promise you I've seen worse, and just

553
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: the bigger deal you make about it the worst. Just

554
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: let's let's move on.

555
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 4: I was in uh, well, not a pro am because

556
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 4: I'm not a pro, but a celeb am here a

557
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 4: couple of months ago, and I did it. I will

558
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 4: admit this, and if anyone's listening, you guys were delightful

559
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 4: and I really had a great time that day, but

560
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 4: I did sort of do it to be a smart

561
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 4: ass for the tournament director. I was playing with four

562
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 4: other people. Double bogie was the max, and I wrote

563
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 4: down every single score for every hole starting at the

564
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 4: first one, not including me, that there were three fifty

565
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 4: fours and one fifty three in nine holes, that one

566
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 4: guy made a bogie on a par three and that

567
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 4: was it. That was it, And I was like, yeah,

568
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 4: I got to write this down. This has to be

569
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 4: written down so that everyone sees, like when we come

570
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 4: in last or whatever his pro am day, this is

571
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 4: this is what we were dealing with today.

572
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. I had again not to name names. I had

573
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: a friend at at and T this year where we were,

574
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: you know, talking, Oh yeah, it's a good time housing

575
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: your partner. My partner's good. It's like, how was yours?

576
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: It's like not green. It's like, how uh how did

577
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: he play? I was like, I mean yeah, like it

578
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: was hard. It was very soft, so he didn't get

579
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: a roll, like it was a long golf course. He's like,

580
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: how many bogie putts did he have? I was like,

581
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: I mean I had a lot.

582
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 3: It's like, I want to know.

583
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: How many mine had one two days? He had one

584
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: bogey punt or.

585
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 3: Better in two days.

586
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: It's like, I am sorry.

587
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 4: Have you ever done this at Pebble or at any

588
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 4: other multi day pro am? Have you ever missed a

589
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 4: putt on purpose that mattered when you were not going

590
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 4: to make the cut but you were going to have

591
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 4: to come back and play if you made the putt

592
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 4: and your team was going to have you ever? Have

593
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 4: you ever missed on purpose? Man?

594
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: That's deep. I haven't played.

595
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: I haven't played in the answer is no, okay, but

596
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: I haven't played probably in enough pro ams to have that.

597
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 4: Opportunity, right, I'm not talking about the you know what

598
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 4: I'm talking about. I'm not talking about a Tuesday pro am.

599
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 4: I'm talking about like at and T and you're going

600
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 4: to have to stay on Saturday to play around.

601
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: You're talking about like the BMW charity program with you

602
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: as my partner.

603
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,719
Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, yeah, would you have you? Yeah?

604
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 4: And You're like, Okay, I could go prepare for the

605
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 4: US Open that I've qualified for next week, or I

606
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 4: could make this cut and play another round with Brian.

607
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 4: Would you do that?

608
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: It would have to be so situational of the person,

609
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: But I think I would look at you dead in

610
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: the eyes and just hit upon as hard as I

611
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: could right over the other side of the.

612
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean I'm at least a nice guy.

613
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 4: I have heard that that has happened, but it was

614
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 4: with someone who was not Yeah, it was not overly nice.

615
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:33,239
Speaker 1: I could see it.

616
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 4: Jordan Spieth, you guys started competing well when you were

617
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 4: thirteen years of age. Did you become friends right away

618
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 4: or was this a gradual process?

619
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: It was gradual, Okay, Yeah, I would say we were

620
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: both very competitive and.

621
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 4: You wanted to beat the other one.

622
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.

623
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 4: You lost to him, by the way, when Texas won

624
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 4: the national championship, were you at that point were you

625
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 4: friends friendly?

626
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, you were friends by then, Yeah, we were.

627
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: I would say that we were always friends, but I

628
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: just don't think we were like old enough or mature

629
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: enough at thirteen fourteen, fifteen years old to like, you know,

630
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: at that point, it was nothing but like jealousy and competitiveness.

631
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: And then once we got to college, not that we

632
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: were much more mature as freshmen in college, but we

633
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: both I mean we were kind of we were one

634
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: and two in the running both for Player of the

635
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: Year and Freshman of the Year. And I mean it's

636
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: easy to say looking now that it's done, but I

637
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: mean I knew that I had had a better year

638
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: than him, and I felt like I was going to

639
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: win Player of the Year and.

640
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 3: Freshman of the Year.

641
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: And I think you did.

642
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 4: It was a part by the way.

643
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: I know, there's a part of him I felt. I

644
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: think that also knew that but didn't want to maybe

645
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: believe it or wanted to make me prove his point

646
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: to kind of show that it should be me. And yeah,

647
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: and I lost, but I don't. And they won the

648
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: national championship, but at least I had consolation prize of

649
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: winning both of those over them.

650
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 4: I don't know, would you have given away that.

651
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 3: You know, I was just thinking that.

652
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 1: I think I would have to win that match against

653
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: him and for us to win the national championship.

654
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think i'd give him both back.

655
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 4: Even though you won the next year. Yeah, you would

656
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 4: have had back to back, just like the football team.

657
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 4: Is that what you're thinking?

658
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: Put it this way now that I'm like actually thinking

659
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 1: about it, I've heard a lot more about the match

660
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: that I lost to Jordan than I have the Player

661
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: of the Year that I won.

662
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 4: That same year. Okay, that's fair enough. When you win

663
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 4: the national championship, you decide you're going to go pro.

664
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 4: If you hadn't have won, would you have come back?

665
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 4: Do you think? Or was it just time for you?

666
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 3: It was time.

667
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: I knew my second semester of that sophomore year. At

668
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: the end of the fall of my sophomore year, it

669
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 1: just it felt different.

670
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 3: I don't know. I was having a hard.

671
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: Time getting as motivated, like going to tournaments, and we

672
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: had a great team, and I wanted to, you know,

673
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: I wanted us to win a national championship. But I

674
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: just I felt like I wasn't I wasn't getting as

675
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: better as I could have or improving as much as

676
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: maybe I did my freshman year. And and that was just,

677
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: to be honest, it was a little bit of a

678
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: worry or concern. It was the first time that, you know,

679
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: going to these tournaments, and like there were times when

680
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: I didn't really want to go that bad. I just

681
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: I couldn't get as motivated. And then I felt like

682
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: after kind of Christmas break and I kind of come

683
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: to the reality that like, you know, this is this

684
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: is going to be my last semester, and like We're

685
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: going to go kick some ass and I'm going to,

686
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: you know, do everything I can for us in this team,

687
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: for us to try to go in a national championship

688
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: and play through the summer as en amateur, play the

689
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: US am Walker Cup, and then turn pro after that

690
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: and it all all worked out.

691
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 4: You know, that's really interesting and I'm thinking about it

692
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 4: just hearing you talk. Also, it's something that we don't

693
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 4: talk about or consider so much. You know, obviously there's

694
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 4: a lot of the want and done in bast ketball,

695
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 4: but also football players, there's a you know, there's a

696
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 4: time a number of years they have to stay in

697
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 4: college obviously, but I never thought about it in terms

698
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 4: of that. You know, you hear like, oh, are we

699
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 4: going to turn pro? Are we going to stay here

700
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 4: in school? And there's pluses and minuses on both sides

701
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 4: of that that we hear, we hear all the time.

702
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 4: But actually stopping your growth or having your growth not continuing,

703
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 4: almost like you have grown out of what this experience

704
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 4: can give you. That's actually super interesting to me. If

705
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 4: you think about a quarterback or whatever who chooses to

706
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 4: stay or chooses to go, Like at a certain point

707
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 4: you may feel like within this system within you know,

708
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 4: not to denigrate your coaches or the school or anything

709
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 4: like that, but just like, Okay, playing these tournaments against

710
00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 4: these people with this much preparation, I'm not getting any better.

711
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 4: I'm not getting toward where I want to be. That's

712
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 4: really interesting to me. I never thought about it like

713
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 4: that before.

714
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just I specifically remember our last event of

715
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: the fall my sophomore year. It was our home, our

716
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: event that we host in Birmingham, the Jerry Pate. I'd

717
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: just gotten back from Turkey, believe it or not. For

718
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: the World Amateur and like I missed a week of

719
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: school for that, and it was like I got back

720
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: a Sunday or Monday, and then like we left Wednesday

721
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: or Thursday for that tournament, and I was like I

722
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: was missed so much class and I was going to

723
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: be so far behind. And I was like I was

724
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: so jet lagged. And I got back and you know,

725
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: kind of coaches asking what I want to do, and

726
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: I remember like talking to my mom and it was

727
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna play what you're gonna do? And I was like, honestly,

728
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to play. I'm like I'm tired, I'm

729
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: like not motivated. I am so far behind in all

730
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: of my school, Like it's just and I just I

731
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: just don't want to go. And I mean my mom

732
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: has not said things like to me very often, but

733
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: it's something long lines of like well it wasn't like

734
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: this isn't your job, because it obviously wasn't that point,

735
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: but like, you play golf, this is what you do.

736
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: You kind of need to go. And I was like, no,

737
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: actually I don't need to you don't you know. My

738
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: stubborn ass was like no, it don't tell me. It's

739
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: a new mom. But but I ended up going to

740
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: play and I won by like four and I was

741
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: like I and I it just was wild. It was like,

742
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember that like it was yesterday, that

743
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: whole week, just the mindset, and that's it's scary, you know,

744
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: Like I just didn't want to go through. I'm like,

745
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: what if I do this another year and then all

746
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: of a sudden I start declining because, like you said,

747
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,479
Speaker 1: I want to keep getting better and improving, and if

748
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: you know, this stage or level, whatever you want to

749
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: call it, I'm not going to get better than this

750
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 1: is not what I need to be doing.

751
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 4: That's really interesting. You turned pro after that year, but

752
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 4: of course you had started playing in PGA events before,

753
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 4: all the way back four years earlier. In two thousand

754
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 4: and nine, you were the third youngest player to ever

755
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 4: make a cut at sixteen years old, with your dad

756
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 4: on the bag. So I want to talk about your

757
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 4: dad just a little bit, who is a delightful gentleman.

758
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 4: By the way, I like your dad. Was it tough

759
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 4: for you or is it tough for you navigating the

760
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 4: relationship between someone who helps you on the golf course

761
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 4: in this case that I'm referring to as your caddie

762
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 4: out there and being your dad, you know, is that

763
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 4: is that tough for you guys, both of you, either

764
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 4: of you.

765
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: I would say it isn't as much now, I think,

766
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: you know, when I was in high school and probably

767
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: more in high school, I mean college, obviously I was,

768
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: I wasn't home, so it was a little different, and

769
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: it was just kind of through communication of phone or

770
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: you know, if he came to tournaments. But even you know,

771
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: my first couple of years as a pro, like he was,

772
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 1: you know, he was busy, he was working, he's a pro.

773
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: He came to you know, handful of tournaments a year

774
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: if he could. And but yeah, I mean I was

775
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: still twenty twenty one, twenty two years old.

776
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 3: Like I'd be the first to admit I.

777
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: Wasn't mature enough to to realize that, you know, my

778
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: dad actually does have my best interest in thought, Like

779
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: what a wild concept, right, So I mean it's it's sixteen.

780
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: When he was caddying for me, like it was. It

781
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: was a cool experience and he was very much there

782
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: to help, as he still is now. But there's there's

783
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: definitely times and you know, whether we sit down have

784
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: conversations or throughout the year of just say we know

785
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: that when our kind of father son hat is on

786
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: and our student coach hats on. And that's something I've

787
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: really consciously tried to do the last five six years,

788
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: is like there are two different things. And you know,

789
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: when I'm out here with you and you're with me

790
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: on the range, like you are my coach, you're not

791
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: my dad and I'm not your son, Like don't hold

792
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: my hand out here, and don't like you know, you're

793
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: not I don't want a yes man, Like if something's wrong,

794
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: you need to tell me it's wrong. And if I

795
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: don't think you're doing a good job, like I'm going

796
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: to tell you I don't think you're doing a good job,

797
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: and it's right. You know, we've definitely had our moments

798
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: that have probably been a little chippy or uncomfortable, but

799
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: at the same time, I think it's it's healthy. I mean,

800
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: we need, we need to have those kind of conversations

801
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: than we have, and it's been you know, we thought

802
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: that's pretty pretty good success.

803
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 4: I'd say that's awesome. You know. One of the toughest

804
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 4: parts for me leading up to this conversation with you

805
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 4: was trying to decide a few moments from your professional

806
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 4: career that I wanted to talk about. One that was

807
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 4: which is not really a question, which was super cool

808
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 4: while one of your old land lord's Ben Silverman, and

809
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 4: I and a group of twelve guys. I think I

810
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 4: texted you when you won the PGA the second time.

811
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 4: We were all together up in the Hampton playing Shinnecock

812
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 4: in National. By the way, National is one of my

813
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 4: favorite courses on the planet. Shout out to National. My

814
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 4: invitation for membership, I'm sure is in the mail, but anyway,

815
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 4: I will never forget all of us together watching you

816
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 4: from the pro shop at Shinnacock. I think that day

817
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 4: I did want to ask you about this, And you

818
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 4: know I've mentioned a couple of times. For those of

819
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 4: you who don't remember. Aaron Hills US Open third round,

820
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 4: Justin shoots sixty three, first to shoot nine under in

821
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 4: a US Open. There's a plaque. Apparently Justin's never invited

822
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 4: me to play Aaron Hills, but apparently there's a plaque

823
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 4: two hundred and ninety nine yards away where he hit

824
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 4: this three wood. My question is a little bit, a

825
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 4: little bit different, though. I just saw the clip again

826
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 4: and you know you were wearing pink pants. So my

827
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 4: question is do you anticipate great rounds and wanting to

828
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 4: make a bold fashion statement during those rounds? I mean,

829
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 4: can you see it in advance of this happening or

830
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 4: is this just is this just good luck? Do you

831
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 4: consider yourself pain Stewart basically is what I'm saying to you.

832
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: Definitely not. If I if I could see that kind

833
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: of stuff coming, my my success would definitely not be golf.

834
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: I would. I would, I would be much wealthier and

835
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 1: I would although I still believe I'd be playing golf

836
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: for a living. I something tells me I'd be better

837
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: at some other things. But yeah, I made.

838
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 4: Not really a question. It was just it was just

839
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 4: it was just now, I mean, not making fun of you,

840
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 4: but I you know, you you do have I'm very

841
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 4: boring typically on the golf court. You you do have

842
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 4: some panache. Shout out to your to your closing sponsor.

843
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 4: You do. And I and I saw the pink pants

844
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 4: and I thought, you know what that was. I mean,

845
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 4: that's that's it's not like a tiger red shirt. But

846
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 4: it's a you know, it's a statement, it's a it's

847
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 4: a I'm a I'm here today to dominate you. Is

848
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 4: that the best shot you've ever hit?

849
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: It's definitely the It's the most unrepeatable shot I've hit

850
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: in my career. It's it's why I've hit you know,

851
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: other shots in my career under the circumstances that are,

852
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: uh maybe better in terms of the nerves I had

853
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: and where I was in the tournament or whatnot, but

854
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: something like, you know, give me a thousand balls. Do

855
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: I think I could do it again in that situation?

856
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: I every time I see the video, I truly don't

857
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: understand how it happened. It just doesn't It doesn't make sense,

858
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: and but I'm I'm glad that it did.

859
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 4: Do you feel nerves? Oh?

860
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure you do. Yeah. I think it'd be

861
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: concerning if I didn't, because it wouldn't mean anything to

862
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: me if I didn't have any nerves.

863
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 4: Again, if you're playing around, if you're playing a major,

864
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 4: where do you feel it the most? It'll be a

865
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 4: multiple choice question, or you can answer fill in the blank,

866
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 4: first t shot, short putt, long putt down the hill

867
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 4: that you have to keep close or fill in the blank.

868
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: I'd say fill in the blank, and really anything in

869
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: the back Yeah, the back nine of a major, when

870
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: you you know, the last three or four holes, when

871
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: you know that you know that you need something. You

872
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: know you need to make a putt, you know that

873
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: you need to hit that fairway or you know, like

874
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: seventeen at the Players in twenty twenty one, the year

875
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 1: I want. It's like, that's it's not like you miss

876
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: a fairway and you're like, oh okay, Like I can just

877
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: get this next one by the green, And it's if

878
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: you hit in the water, that's an automatic two strokes

879
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: whorst you're looking to probably make. And when you have

880
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: a one shot lead on that that tee, it's it's

881
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: basically you're winning it or losing it on that shot.

882
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 3: So like if you sit.

883
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: There and you really think about it, you're like, holy shit,

884
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: this is a pretty important shot right here, but right

885
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 1: at the same time, it's really no more important than

886
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: the rest of the ones you hit before that.

887
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 4: So that's the craziest thing. I know, that's the craziest thing.

888
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 4: Something you said just made me think about this and

889
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 4: I never thought about this before, either when I'm watching

890
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 4: or or whatever. You're back nine of a major Sunday,

891
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 4: you're not going to win. Okay, I mean this is

892
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 4: this is is math. Right, you're not going to win?

893
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 4: How much do you I'm not going to say check out?

894
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 4: But do you relax? Do you something else? Or is

895
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 4: there the same kind of intensity the to finish because

896
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 4: of some other reason that I don't know of, or

897
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 4: quite frankly, money like that I want to beat this guy.

898
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 4: Maybe you're playing with them, or you are looking at

899
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 4: the leader board going well, I want to be top

900
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 4: ten or I want to be top twenty, or you know,

901
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 4: or does that sort of go away a little bit?

902
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 1: I'd say it just depends where you are. I think,

903
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: I mean finishing you know, top ten, top five and

904
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: even sometimes whatever, top fifteen, top ten in a major.

905
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: It is it's a big deal. We're all out there

906
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: to obviously try to win them, but right, I mean

907
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: the hardest tournaments to win all year, and because of

908
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: the pedestal that they're put on, it makes them even

909
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: more difficult at times. But you know, it's also you

910
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 1: get more accolades or potentially feel better about a top ten.

911
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: So you know, it's one thing if you're in forty

912
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: fifth and you're playing in the back nine, you're like,

913
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: all right, what you know, what am I trying to

914
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: do here? But I think it really is a situational

915
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: of something like, Okay, maybe there's something in my swing

916
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: I'm working on, and this is a chance for me

917
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: in competition to maybe exaggerate it and kind of try

918
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: this to see how it performs. Or h yeah, there's

919
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: I mean, there's plenty of times when I'm playing with someone,

920
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, I really don't want to lose to the

921
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: schmuck in this tournament, so I'd like to beat him

922
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: on this nine or whatever it might be. So I guess.

923
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got a few of those. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

924
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 4: I do. Of course, by look at the leaderboard and

925
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, okay. Twenty seventeen, Sony opened Hawaii, you

926
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 4: get your fourth victory, you win by seven. You at

927
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 4: the time become just the seventh player in PGA Tour

928
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 4: history to break sixty the magical number of fifty nine.

929
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 4: Now it's been done eleven times with mister FURICKX incredible

930
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 4: two timer. Is that the best round for professionally you've

931
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 4: ever played?

932
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: I No, I.

933
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 3: Don't think so.

934
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 4: No.

935
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: What is the sixty three at Aaron Hills was up

936
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: there sixty not I shot sixty nine the players two

937
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: years ago. It was blown about forty miles an hour

938
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: and I went bogie free and that was that was

939
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: one of the best rounds of golf I've I've ever played.

940
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, given the circumstances, the stakes and and what

941
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 4: the conditions were.

942
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean obviously fifty nine fifty nine. I mean,

943
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: but like you know, I shot sixty one at Madina,

944
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: Like that's that was unbelievable. Like it it's it's something

945
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: it's hard because you know, you see it and it's like, wow,

946
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: that's you know, I've made a terrible bogee on my

947
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: second home, like I only played I didn't thirty five, six,

948
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: seven or eight. Like there's you know, there's plenty of

949
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: right and spoken like a golfer. So it's good.

950
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 4: That's that when people ask me about golf. Actually, what

951
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 4: you just were referencing, right there is exactly what I

952
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 4: always say. I mean, there's literally something in baseball called

953
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 4: the perfect game. You can have a perfect passer rating

954
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 4: in football. There is no such thing as a perfect

955
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 4: round of golf. There is always something that you can

956
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 4: do differently or better on a shot, on a hole

957
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 4: in a moment, and that, to me is what makes

958
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 4: golf the greatest game.

959
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, well when Yorick shot fifty eight, he

960
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: didn't thirty thirteen or fifteen maybe, Like I mean, a

961
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 1: driveable hole and a par like two of the easiest holes.

962
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: Like it's it's crazy, it really, it's it is. It's

963
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: very very true. I never thought of it that way.

964
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 4: What's your favorite course on the PGA Tour that you

965
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 4: play a non major?

966
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 1: I assume no, Yeah, I love I love Augusta, okay,

967
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: the player. I love TPC sawgrass. If it's firm, if

968
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: it if it gets a little bit of fire, like

969
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: in May when we used to have it in May

970
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: versus March. I loved it because it would get it

971
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 1: could get dicey, and it could get you know, firm

972
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: and fast and you had to be very very precise.

973
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: And for that same reason I love Riviera. I think

974
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 1: Riviera is one of the best golf courses you know,

975
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: really in the world and especially have to play on tour.

976
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, Riviera is great. I mean it has everything m hm,

977
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 4: which to me is is the signal of a great

978
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 4: golf course. And there's challenges, but also it challenges you

979
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 4: differently and such variety. Yeah, yeah, Riviera's great. What is

980
00:51:55,200 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 4: your favorite course to play as just a person? Is

981
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 4: it the same?

982
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 1: It probably depends on I play because I love playing Augusta.

983
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: But if I'm struggling at seventy three or four in

984
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: the Masters, that's not very fun. It would definitely be

985
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: probably like you know, like a Baker's bay or something

986
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: where I have some drinks and music going. That sounds

987
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 1: like a lot of fun.

988
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 4: To me, right, Yeah, but it's got to be something tough, right.

989
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: Well, to not necessarily, I mean, to be my favorite.

990
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: It's I don't know. I mean, I'm looking at this

991
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: as like a this is my last round before I croak.

992
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 1: I'm not really trying to grind out a seventy four, right,

993
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: although it would be fitting a last memory of golf

994
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: if I hate.

995
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 4: This game seventy four. Because I have a story for you,

996
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,720
Speaker 4: I think you'll appreciate. What do you what do you?

997
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 4: Pine Valley versus Augusta.

998
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: Believe it or not, never played Pine Valley?

999
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 4: Oh I'm going I've played somewhere you haven't played? Kidding?

1000
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: You got to remember this. If there's not a golf

1001
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: tournament there. I probably haven't played it right, but yeah,

1002
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: man is hosting a little crew of us at Pine Valley.

1003
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 4: At the end of I didn't get the invite us.

1004
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 1: It's probably on the way. It's right, it's right next

1005
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: to your the What was that other invite you're talking

1006
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: about the the tournament, was it?

1007
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 4: Or uh No, it's your it's your invite for the

1008
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 4: for the corn faery deal. Well, i'll be interesting. Let

1009
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 4: me know once you play in your little fun little gathering.

1010
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 4: I'm really telling you this. You can make fun of me.

1011
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 4: I when I played it, very gracious invitation that I had,

1012
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 4: I went and played, did the whole deal, which I

1013
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 4: hope you're doing. You stay in the in the cabins,

1014
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 4: so you play afternoon, then you stay and then you

1015
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 4: play in the morning the next day, and then they

1016
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 4: kick you out of there. Great experience. I was worse

1017
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 4: than I am now when I got this limitation. Okay,

1018
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 4: this is not an easy golfer. I've heard it had

1019
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 4: and it rained afternoon and morning. And I'm not a mutter. Okay,

1020
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 4: I don't. I live in California. If it rains, I'm like,

1021
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 4: I'll play the next ten days in a row. I'm

1022
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 4: not going to play it. Yeah, which I think I

1023
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 4: need to change that a little bit because some of

1024
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 4: these tournaments back East that I have to play in

1025
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 4: it and I look at the weather and I'm like, well,

1026
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 4: I'm you know, there we go. I'm screwed. Have you

1027
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 4: heard about the Devil's Asshole?

1028
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 3: I have?

1029
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 4: Okay, Well just know this. There are videos that exist

1030
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 4: of me in the Devil's Asshole, which is this little

1031
00:54:55,880 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 4: t so people don't think there is teeny pot bunker.

1032
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 4: My memory of it is it's fifty feet tall. No,

1033
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 4: it's not fifty, but it's I don't know, twenty straight up.

1034
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 4: Couldn't get out of it. Everybody's videotaping it having a

1035
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 4: great laugh.

1036
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: It's messed up. I would do that to you.

1037
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 4: No, thank you. I appreciate that you had three goals

1038
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,919
Speaker 4: in golf. I've been told win a major, be ranked

1039
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 4: number one, make the Writer Cup team. You have accomplished

1040
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 4: those three goals. Which that's that's why I don't make

1041
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 4: goals in golf, because I don't want to accomplish them

1042
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 4: too quickly. Then then what the hell am I going

1043
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,919
Speaker 4: to do? What do you still have that you want

1044
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 4: to accomplish in the game of golf.

1045
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: I want to win a lot more majors, that is

1046
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: for sure. I want to win a lot more tournaments,

1047
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: a lot more majors. You know. I think that there's

1048
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 1: plenty of other things that come with both of those,

1049
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: and you know, being number one in the world for

1050
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: certain amount of time, and yeah, winning more team events,

1051
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: especially winning a Ryder Cup in Europe. I mean, there's

1052
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: there's a lot, a lot of things, But the end

1053
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: of the day, winning ample amount of golf tournaments is

1054
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 1: is it?

1055
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 4: Is there going to be a resolution.

1056
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: With live I don't know. There's a part of me that,

1057
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: you know, wants to wants to be involved in and

1058
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 1: and know more in terms of, you know, where everything stands.

1059
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: But there's also a part of me that feels like

1060
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: that I'm just simply not smart enough to be in

1061
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 1: those conversations. I I I applaud the PGA Tour, the policy.

1062
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 3: Board, and and I mean the amount of.

1063
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,959
Speaker 1: Hours and time those guys have spent talking about every

1064
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 1: little detail and everything and getting the PGA.

1065
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:49,959
Speaker 3: Tour to where it is now.

1066
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's it's it's unbelievable because this is

1067
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: determine the future of our tour and and the future

1068
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: of golf, and we want it to be the best

1069
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: product for you know, for you, for me, for the fan,

1070
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: everybody that's either watching it or partaking in it. And

1071
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,280
Speaker 1: we're definitely making the steps in the right direction. And

1072
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: and now that that's done, I think now the next

1073
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: step is figuring out what what happens with that, right.

1074
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 4: I don't think I'm speaking out of turn, but you know,

1075
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 4: in terms of what you're talking about about the work

1076
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 4: that it takes. And I mentioned Charlie Hoffman obviously on

1077
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 4: the on the board. They're working very hard over the

1078
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 4: last year or so. And we're sitting around after a

1079
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Speaker 4: round of golf at clubhouse, having some laughs whatever, and

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Speaker 4: Charlie stands up. He's like, oh, all right, it's a

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Speaker 4: commissioner on the phone. And we all start laughing. We're like,

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Speaker 4: that is the greatest nickname for a wife in the

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Speaker 4: history of the world. Got the commissioner, Got the commissioner

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Speaker 4: on the phone? Got to answer that one. We laugh

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Speaker 4: and then suddenly I go, oh, I think that's really

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Speaker 4: the commissioner. That's actually that's actually the commissioner of the PGA.

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Speaker 4: Tour was referring to his wife and we had we

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Speaker 4: had a good laugh about that one. I know how

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Speaker 4: much work that he's put into it, that all of

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Speaker 4: you guys have put into a you know, a difficult situation,

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Speaker 4: and hopefully there's resolution that makes you guys happy, that's

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Speaker 4: all I'll say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, it's the same thing

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Speaker 1: as decisions whatever ten years ago on the PGA Tour,

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Speaker 1: whatever the big decision is, there's always somebody that isn't

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Speaker 1: going to be happy. You know, if guys are rewarded

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Speaker 1: on the top end and the guys in the bottom

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Speaker 1: end are going to be pissed off, and if there's

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Speaker 1: you know, then you feel like it's you do something

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Speaker 1: for the bottom end and the guys in the top end,

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Speaker 1: Like you're just never going to please everybody. But I

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Speaker 1: think it's it's tough to swallow and hard to think

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Speaker 1: sometimes that in reality, the best thing to have happen

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Speaker 1: is for golf to be competitive and all the best

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Speaker 1: players in the world to be playing against each other.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, the decisions that those guys made something is

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Speaker 1: going to have to happen for that to happen again.

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Speaker 1: Together on the PGA tour.

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Speaker 4: In my opinion, Yeah, well, good luck, good luck finding

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Speaker 4: someone to figure that out. I appreciate your time so much.

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Speaker 4: I want you to know I'm always rooting for you,

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Speaker 4: and I know how much it means to you. I

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Speaker 4: want you to win Augusta this year, all right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's no, absolutely not. And uh, you know if I

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Speaker 1: think we should, we should just go ahead and get this,

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Speaker 1: go ahead and get this, you know, set in stone,

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Speaker 1: you know, and not even in writing it in words

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Speaker 1: audio that if I do win Augusta this year, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that I need to make sure it happens

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Speaker 1: that you and I go on a trip to Augusta together.

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Speaker 1: I'll find a member to host this and and I

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Speaker 1: think we should do that. What do you think about that?

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Speaker 4: I'm in.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't you are, No, I am in.

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing. I'll even I'll even buy your drinks.

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Speaker 4: I this is I should not be telling this story.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to mention any names. But a few

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Speaker 4: years ago I got a phone call and it was

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Speaker 4: in around April May, end of April May, and I

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Speaker 4: was told, you're going to be getting a phone call

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Speaker 4: in the next couple of weeks. Just when you get

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Speaker 4: this phone call, answer the phone and just say yes.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, well what are you and they

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Speaker 4: were like no, no, no, You're going to be getting a

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Speaker 4: phone call when the phone rings, answer it and just

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Speaker 4: say yes. I'm picking out outfits. I'm like, what shoes

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Speaker 4: am I going to wear? Like I'm doing the phone

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Speaker 4: never rang, phone, never rank justin and I'm from Georgia.

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Speaker 4: At this point, it's borderline embarrassing that I haven't played it,

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Speaker 4: because when I'm around golf and people, they always are like, oh,

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Speaker 4: you played, Augusta, how is the gun? And I'm like, no,

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Speaker 4: one's invited me. Oh, that's what we're talking about. That

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Speaker 4: invitation got lost in the mail too. It's weird. It's

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Speaker 4: weird National hasn't called me Augusta. Yeah, all right, well

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Speaker 4: that's done. When you win this year, should I put

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Speaker 4: some money on you? No, when you win this year,

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Speaker 4: that's going to happen. All right, I like it. Good

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Speaker 4: luck at the Arnold Palmer Invitational this weekend. I will

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Speaker 4: be watching and have a great season.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, dude. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 4: JT. It's great to catch up with you. Thank you

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Speaker 4: so much for coming on and yeah, my phone is on.

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Speaker 4: The ringer will be on for the next year, maybe

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Speaker 4: waiting on your call to go play Augusta. Listeners, thank

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Speaker 4: you for listening. You do it very well. Come back

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Speaker 4: and listen again next week, will you. Until then, everybody,

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Speaker 4: have a great week. Off. The Beat is hosted and

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