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Speaker 1: Mart and degenerates. Mount up Hi, everybody. On this twenty

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Speaker 1: third day of March twenty twenty six, it is now

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Speaker 1: time for another episode of Morning Combat. My name is

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Speaker 1: Luke Thomas. I'm nearly one half of your hosting duo.

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Speaker 1: I join you from the capital of the Status a Nidos

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Speaker 1: right here in Washington, d C. Joined by my Connecticut brethren,

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Speaker 1: the Iceman himself, Charles Chuck Mindenhall. What's up, Check? How

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Speaker 1: are you doing, Bud?

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Speaker 2: Not too much?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 2: How's your bracket doing. I didn't get a chance to

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Speaker 2: ask you though.

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Speaker 1: We were talking before the show that like, I know,

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Speaker 1: I had been doing like you know reads for the

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Speaker 1: fact that like the tournament, the marchin Badis tournament was

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Speaker 1: coming up, and I knew it was like close. I

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Speaker 1: tournament starts and I'm like, oh, this must be like

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Speaker 1: the play in or whatever, and then I saw like

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Speaker 1: Duke play and I was like, I can't be this

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Speaker 1: is not the play in, this is the actual I

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Speaker 1: didn't even really I didn't do a bracket. I did nothing.

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Speaker 3: Bro Yeah, there used to always you remember when we

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Speaker 3: do the MMA beatback and the day we did Thursdays,

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Speaker 3: And I remember, like so around Saint Patrick's Day, whenever

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Speaker 3: starting on that Thursday. So somehow I'm like my default

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Speaker 3: to that understanding that it's starting, but I don't really

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Speaker 1: Did you do a bracket?

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Speaker 3: I did one bracket like I've done in the past

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Speaker 3: where multiple people ask you and I suck it all

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Speaker 3: of it. So I'm like, I'm just gonna do one,

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Speaker 3: and i mean, like it's wrecked the first round. You know,

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Speaker 3: with the cinderella Is. In this year, there weren't too

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Speaker 3: many Cinderellas, so I had a lot of teams kind

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Speaker 1: So, uh, the college I went to my senior year

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Speaker 1: a local university. It's Kennesas State University. You know, it

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Speaker 1: was school to go to college while you're in high school,

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Speaker 1: not the most prestigious school in the world. It was not.

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Speaker 1: It was interesting. My high school classes were much harder

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Speaker 1: But they made it to the tournament. They were like

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Speaker 3: I feel like they've made it before too, right, Like

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Speaker 3: they've they've actually snuck in before. When I was in

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Speaker 3: But now they've become something of like i'll say, a

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Speaker 1: Something like that, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's only fun if teams like that can

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Speaker 1: Was living here in two thousand and seven, when George

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Speaker 1: you just I don't know if you I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: not super I watched the wrestling finals on Saturday night.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this funny story Daniel

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Speaker 1: Cormier for the last couple or maybe even longer than that,

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Speaker 1: Cormier will be commentating, but he wasn't on there, And

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Speaker 1: And then I recall from last year. Do you recall

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm not sure exactly what the nature of was.

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Speaker 3: march madness brags. It's kind of cadz.

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Speaker 1: You know. I couldn't agree more. And I brought this

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Speaker 1: the newsycon sport. All right, yeah, let's bring in the

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Speaker 1: third member of the show here. He is probably not sober,

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Speaker 1: It's Long Island looke. What's up, Bud?

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Speaker 4: I woke up feeling like shit today, guys, But you

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Speaker 4: know I had a good weekend and UFC London was

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Speaker 4: good to me.

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Speaker 2: You know, it did good down the bets so good.

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Speaker 1: How could it have been good to you?

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Speaker 2: The bets were good to me.

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Speaker 4: Make money, man, Yeah, you know, I win a few

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Speaker 1: I think I got to everything, Chuck. Today on the show,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about obviously the big events of the weekend,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll look ahead this weekend. Oh, I want

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Speaker 1: to make sure I make a note the two events

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Speaker 1: this weekend, UFC Seattle as well as PFL Pittsburgh. And

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Speaker 1: then on top of it, Uh, you've got the PBC

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Speaker 1: He is calling those fights. Guys, want to check that out.

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Speaker 1: It'll be on PBC. If you want to, you gotta

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Speaker 1: not doing. Oh did you hear that? Hey?

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Speaker 2: Do it again?

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Speaker 1: Do it again? Do you hear that? It's Brian Campbell

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Speaker 1: going can't wait for September eleventh. So he interviewed a

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Speaker 1: their main event most star LOIV scored a majority decision

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Speaker 1: gotta be really careful with what any of this means. However,

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Speaker 1: it did seem like in retrospect I can very much

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Speaker 3: I had it a draw, man Like, once that point

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Speaker 3: deduction happened, I was like, I even I tweeted this out.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, can you imagine if these two guys have

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Speaker 3: I had the third round for Ebluev. I did not

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Speaker 1: more with Chuck. Both start didn't shoot for the first

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Speaker 1: But it's gonna be that, And so I thought, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm been trying it a different way here. I don't

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Speaker 1: He doesn't shoot for the first ten minutes. When did

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Speaker 3: So I thought maybe because this is his first five

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Speaker 3: So I was thinking, third round is when we're going

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Speaker 2: So I thought, this is where some of the confusion was.

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Speaker 3: And then they kind of they flashed to the they

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Speaker 3: You know you remember this, Like I was like, man,

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Speaker 3: he's next, he's next.

436
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Speaker 2: You know, it's a bad situation.

437
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Speaker 3: I feel like that's a that's a kind of that

438
00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,480
Speaker 3: would be a hopeless situation if you're stuck in that

439
00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:24,760
Speaker 3: kind of purgatory for long.

440
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Speaker 1: Put up this the graphic on the wind streak if

441
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Speaker 1: you can in Long Island. I mean, just sort of

442
00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,960
Speaker 1: look at the company he's keeping here. These are longest

443
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Speaker 1: active UFC wind streaks. And for the audio listeners, Islam

444
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Speaker 1: is number one at sixteen, mosts Are is now number

445
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,040
Speaker 1: two at nine, and then among chimayav to Poria, and

446
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,480
Speaker 1: then you know, one of these is not like the other.

447
00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,240
Speaker 1: Carlos Alberg is in there, but at a bare minimum.

448
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 1: Those guys are all sharing a nine fight win streak.

449
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,440
Speaker 1: I was looking this up, you know. Sorry, I'm my

450
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Speaker 1: friend Ovin, who I think works for me a little

451
00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,560
Speaker 1: bit as well as Emma on point in some other places. Yeah,

452
00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 1: listen to this. Fighters with nine plus UFC wind streaks

453
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Speaker 1: that did not at least have not yet fought for

454
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Speaker 1: undisputed title. Mozar is sitting at ten. Arnold Allen it

455
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,919
Speaker 1: was sitting at ten. Obviously he's lost since then. Tony

456
00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 1: Ferguson was the one at twelve twelve crazy And that's

457
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 1: that's also kind of crazy in Tony's case because you know,

458
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you could say what you want about Arnold

459
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,639
Speaker 1: is a little bit defensively oriented. Mosar not a great finisher.

460
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Speaker 1: Tony at that time was just using through people they

461
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Speaker 1: ever try to make him versus habibe your phone. The

462
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 1: electricity infrastructure got in the way, if you can believe,

463
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, but you get the point, Like this

464
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 1: dude is doing things that are historically, you know, with

465
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Speaker 1: the upper limit of what we know someone has to

466
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Speaker 1: go through in order to get it, And I just

467
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 1: think it's kind of crazy. He handicapped himself for ten

468
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Speaker 1: minutes and maybe even longer than that, depending on what

469
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Speaker 1: your viewpoint is, but at a bare minimum ten minutes,

470
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Speaker 1: and he's still arguably won't arguably right. I mean, maybe

471
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,159
Speaker 1: he didn't win the second, but certainly one you know,

472
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Speaker 1: the first on most of the dude like most are

473
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Speaker 1: with essentially metaphorically one hand behind his back, showed he's

474
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Speaker 1: more well rounded than we thought, got a point taken

475
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Speaker 1: from him in hostile territory, right, and still got the

476
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Speaker 1: job done.

477
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Speaker 3: And you're showing that, and you're showing that like that graphic,

478
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Speaker 3: I know that Islam beat Bolkonowsky coming up and wait

479
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 3: right as a champion or like it wasn't it was

480
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Speaker 3: he was already a champion right at that point, Yes.

481
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Speaker 1: They were both champs. Was coming right right right, that's right.

482
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Speaker 3: So like when he came up, So I was trying

483
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 3: to point out, like that's one of the rare moments

484
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Speaker 3: where somebody on the list you just showed snapped somebody

485
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Speaker 3: else's streak that would be on that list, But that

486
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 3: was you know, that's already as a champion. When you're

487
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Speaker 3: talking about like looking at Mostar and where he's at

488
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Speaker 3: and having to beat somebody who also would be on

489
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Speaker 3: that list if he didn't just lose, you know, like

490
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Speaker 3: he had to beat somebody with an equal win streak.

491
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Speaker 3: That's even more impressive, man. You know, It's like he

492
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 3: had to beat a guy that was also nine to

493
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Speaker 3: zero in the UFC and fight, like you just mentioned,

494
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 3: all the every advantage, whether it's kind of like intangible

495
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 3: or you know, being on the feet, all that stuff

496
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,360
Speaker 3: like fell to Murphy in the way it played out,

497
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Speaker 3: and yet he's still won.

498
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Speaker 2: That's pretty impressive to me. He's been in.

499
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Speaker 1: The UFC since April of twenty nineteen, and his first

500
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 1: few fights are names that unless you're a hardcore you

501
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 1: won't really know. Enrique Barzola Nick Lentz was a split

502
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 1: decision one that he had in January of twenty twenty one,

503
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 1: but then in June of twenty twenty one listened to

504
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 1: this win streak. Haquem Dewadu, who again was a good

505
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: prospect at the time, Dan Egay, Diego Lopez, Arnold Allen Al,

506
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Speaker 1: Jamaine Sterling, and now Larone Murphy again giving up wrestling

507
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Speaker 1: in hostile territory and getting a point deducted. That is

508
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Speaker 1: one of the most that's one of the best win

509
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Speaker 1: streaks currently in the UFC. It's one of the best

510
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Speaker 1: non title win streaks I think I've ever seen. Yeah,

511
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Speaker 1: so let's kind of ask the question here, Chuck, not

512
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,199
Speaker 1: should he get the title shot? There's really no debate, like,

513
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: of course he should get it, but what is your

514
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 1: actual feeling about to what extent he will?

515
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Speaker 3: Dude, that's really this is where it starts getting weird

516
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 3: because this year particularly, they've just kind of the UFC

517
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 3: matchmakers have just kind of put the guy that they

518
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 3: want in that fight. And you know, we talk about

519
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 3: Arma on Serukian, right, and we say like, well, this

520
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 3: guy's done enough, he should be there. And actually that's

521
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 3: kind of like when you look at Arma and you're like, well,

522
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 3: he's the biggest challenge too. And I think if we

523
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Speaker 3: looked at Bolkanovsky versus West, Sorry, you'd say the same thing.

524
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 3: You'd be like, this is a crazy fight. I think

525
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 3: that Gene Silvertheite would also be very fascinating. But dude,

526
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 3: he's he came off that loss to Diego Lopez, you know,

527
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Speaker 3: not that long ago, you know what I mean, Like,

528
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 3: it's just what a year ago to me. That's not

529
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Speaker 3: like when I know he's put together a nice streak

530
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Speaker 3: around that, Like he's got like five wins in the UFC.

531
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Speaker 3: That's not ten wins against the names. We just went through.

532
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 3: It just he should he should never deserve it. But

533
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Speaker 3: I'm just saying the UFC may look at like John

534
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 3: Silva is a little bit like Diego Lopez in the

535
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Speaker 3: sense that they trod him out all the time. He's

536
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Speaker 3: always on the JumboTron, He's at all the events. They

537
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 3: clearly like his fighting style. He's going to have the

538
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Speaker 3: approval rating, you know or whatever like from the UFC.

539
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Speaker 2: That's the X factor.

540
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 3: Do they just do they screw like, do they find

541
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Speaker 3: that thing and say like, we're just going with this fight.

542
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Speaker 2: It could happen.

543
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Speaker 1: For context, this is the win, the winning that Jayon

544
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Speaker 1: Silva has done. Kevin Vjejo's on the Contender Series right

545
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: then he beat a guy with the Wikipedia entry. But

546
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Speaker 1: then from there it's Charles Giordan, Huiko Drew Dover, Hui, Tko,

547
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: Melsic Bagdasarian, Hui Tko, Bryce Mitchell who he submitted, and

548
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: he loses to Diego Lopez and then he it was

549
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Speaker 1: a decision against Arl Allen, but he surfed on him

550
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Speaker 1: at the end, which was kind of fun. So like one,

551
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: you can definitely tell this is not as prestigious a

552
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: win streak. However, it's not a bat or you know,

553
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: and there's a loss in there, but in general it's

554
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: pretty good names he's beating yea, but like the fact

555
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: due the fact that he's finishing them. I mean, finishing

556
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: is always important in mma, but for people who really

557
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 1: want like title opportunity and they're on the rise, it's

558
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: it's hard to overstate how important that is. Let me

559
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 1: such a demarcation line hypothetical.

560
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Speaker 3: Now we we like watching it the first time, we

561
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Speaker 3: think Murphy maybe gets the nod, it's probably should win.

562
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Speaker 3: Let's say that he did. You see the state he

563
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 3: was in when he got to his stool. He barely

564
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Speaker 3: could get to a stool. He looked in a very

565
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Speaker 3: rough shape. I don't know, like if they've I don't

566
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Speaker 3: know what injuries he is sustained or how long he'll

567
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Speaker 3: be out. But let's just say that he had won.

568
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Speaker 3: Is there a chance that they would have been like, Okay,

569
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Speaker 3: he needs time to recover. Let's go as John Silva,

570
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 3: because Volkanovski is ready to go yes, and that that's

571
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's question in my mind.

572
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the dude, they would have been thrilled with that.

573
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Speaker 1: They'd have been like, well, now mosts are is not

574
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Speaker 1: our problem anymore, and Loron's not available exactly, let's just go.

575
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 3: I feel that way too, So, I mean, again, it's

576
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 3: a swing of fates type thing. But given that Mozart

577
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 3: came through like he deserves it, I think, and I

578
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 3: mean there used to be back in the day there

579
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Speaker 3: was all these people who kind of uphold the merk

580
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 3: cryptocracy like they would really complain and I felt like

581
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 3: the matchmakers would listen to that. I just feel like

582
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 3: that day's behind us now. I don't know how much

583
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: the UFC really cares about the diehards with their you know,

584
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: their pitchforks.

585
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: And saying like, oh, this's got to be this guy.

586
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 3: But for their own sort of I feel like they

587
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 3: have to uphold the merit to an extent, you know,

588
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Speaker 3: especially in Volkanowska, who just did this whole circus route

589
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 3: where he has to go fight the same guy he

590
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 3: already beat convincingly once. It's just I mean, if they

591
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 3: don't if they didn't do mostar, I feel like it'd

592
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Speaker 3: be a travesty, man.

593
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Speaker 1: I gotta say, if they don't do the Mosar fight,

594
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Speaker 1: that you won't find I mean, listen, the matchmakers, not

595
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: just in UFC, but in any organization, kind of skirting

596
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Speaker 1: who a number one contender would be to make a

597
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Speaker 1: more desirable fight. This is not an unusual practice. This

598
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: is something that is widely known and widely used, and

599
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: more often than not, most fans don't complain depending on

600
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Speaker 1: who the number one contender is versus who the more

601
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,719
Speaker 1: desirable fight ends up being, they'll let it slide, you know.

602
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: But this is one of those cases where it's like, dude,

603
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: there is no wiggle room, it doesn't exist. This is

604
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: one of the most prestigious non title runs, certainly of

605
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Speaker 1: anyone competing in the UFC right now, maybe probably the

606
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Speaker 1: most right probably of anyone who has not fought for

607
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: a title yet. This is the best, most legit run

608
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: I've seen. He's at the beginning of the end of

609
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: his prime. He's thirty two, so I think he's still

610
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: in it, but you know, there's not much time left

611
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: in it, and you know, there's no one else for

612
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: him to fight, even like this is the guy. If

613
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Speaker 1: they don't give a title shot to him, and they

614
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: go another direction. And by the way, we all know,

615
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: you know, if they do give it to him, he's

616
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Speaker 1: gonna have to travel to Australia, which time you know. Okay,

617
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: you know, but if they don't give it to him,

618
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: that's one of the biggest screw jobs you'll ever see.

619
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Speaker 3: And it's crazy too that Laron Murphy gets on the

620
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 3: micro uses his mic time to be like, hey, guys,

621
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 3: don't skip over this guy. He deserves the shot. He's

622
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 3: basically endorsing him as well. And then you get Volkanovski

623
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 3: who joins the Paramount Plus Desk afterwards in an interview,

624
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 3: and he's basically like ready for it. It's not like

625
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 3: you know, sometimes you get a champion he's like, this

626
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 3: is not a great style matchup for me.

627
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: But he was let's do this, you know, he was

628
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 2: ready for him.

629
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Speaker 1: We have the clip, let's take a look.

630
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was. It was an interesting one. You know.

631
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 6: He's all touched on that. I don't think we all

632
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 6: expected moms that to just want to stand with Laron.

633
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 6: Whether that was something that he felt he had to

634
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,959
Speaker 6: do just so you know, he could guarantee himself a

635
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 6: taller shot. I'm not I'm not too sure that you

636
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 6: could see that he was a lot stronger when he

637
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 6: wanted to take it down and then was able to

638
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 6: out do him on the feet. So for me, it's

639
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 6: quite impressive, to be honest. So he's twenty nine now

640
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 6: and I guess he's next.

641
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: This is my takeaway from what he is saying and

642
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: what the truth of the fight was. Chuck, It's not

643
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: just that Maulsar is, like, I mean, number one contender

644
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: with a bullet. I mean, forget it. It's not even

645
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: a debate about it. But also not for nothing. He's

646
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: a dual threat. He is not just a wrestling threat.

647
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: He is a striking threat. I don't think he's better

648
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: on the feet than Vulk, but Volke's a little chitty

649
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: Molzar can mix it up, like dude. Molsar is, by far,

650
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: I think the biggest threat to Volkanovsky of anyone in

651
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: that division.

652
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if you agree, No, I agree with

653
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: you one hundred percent.

654
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 3: I think that when you look at Mozar too, like

655
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 3: you know, you think Russian, what's he going to do?

656
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: We know what he wants to do, right, But I

657
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 3: still I always think back to that that Volkanovsky islam

658
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 3: one fight where you know he can't he can win

659
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 3: up there, and he challenged for that lightweight belt, and

660
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 3: you know you remember that. I'm sure you've probably done

661
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 3: an analysis on this. It's like the way he was

662
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 3: able to I mean, he didn't always succeed, but the

663
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 3: way he defended the takedown for most of the like

664
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 3: good portions of that fight was pretty impressive. Man, just

665
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: kind of like it was like trying to take down

666
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 3: a stump because he was he would sprawl almost instinctively,

667
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, he's your he's got a

668
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: leg hooked around the thigh where he's like, you know,

669
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: he's in a crosscrape. Like he was always doing something

670
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 3: to end up in a better position to then maneuver

671
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 3: to get back up, which not always like, but he

672
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 3: did it enough where it made it compelling, especially down

673
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 3: the stretch. Volkanovsky. This is the reason, like sometimes you

674
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 3: see a guy like evelf coming up, it's just it's

675
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 3: a guarantee that this guy is going to be a champion.

676
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: Maybe that's why the UFC doesn't want they want to

677
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 3: be in the business. Volkanovsky would still probably be my

678
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 3: favorite going into that fight, just because he's so good

679
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: at diagnosing with this what's coming at him.

680
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also respect to al Jamner Sterling who took

681
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: rounds off of of Mosar. That certainly took the first.

682
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: You could argue maybe the third. I thought most are

683
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,239
Speaker 1: won the second between them, but you know, certainly him

684
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: a hell of a fight, like that's what I mean,

685
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: like like the proving ground there that that the mosters

686
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: had to go through his nuts. Now, now, Dana was asked, well, hey,

687
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: is Silva going to be next? Take a look at

688
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: not only what his answer was, but how he delivers it.

689
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: Uh.

690
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 5: Soon Silva came out and said he was here in

691
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 5: London to uh to make.

692
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: A deal to fight for the title. Do you care

693
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: to come with on that?

694
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 4: Jean Silva said that he was here no matter what

695
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 4: was going to happen in the main event today, he

696
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 4: was signing to fight Volkanovskinects for the title.

697
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: Is there any truth to that?

698
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: To see when we announce that, then you'll know it's true.

699
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: Do you want to put your tinfoil hat on there?

700
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: What do you think?

701
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: This is where Brian Campbell would come in. He'd have

702
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: like ten minute diatribe right here.

703
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I uh, that's not I mean, Dana is a

704
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 3: little harder to read in these situations because obviously he

705
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: doesn't match make anymore.

706
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: Luke.

707
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: He doesn't even get involved in these negotias, of.

708
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: Course, not unless he's unless he's telling you he approved

709
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: specific fights.

710
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 3: But that doesn't bode well. I don't think that bodes

711
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 3: well for mozar Man. He's not denying. I feel like,

712
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: you know, they talk about John Jones even though this

713
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: was a lie. You know, he's definitive on stuff he

714
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 3: wants to defend. He comes at you know, he says,

715
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 3: hey that John Jones are never gonna fight on the

716
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 3: White House car. I keep telling you guys this, if

717
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 3: you if he could shut that down, he should have

718
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 3: right there, right But he didn't. So that tells me

719
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 3: that there could be some truth to it.

720
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: Long Island. Who's gonna fight Alexander Volkanowski next?

721
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: I would hope it's Mavsar.

722
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 4: But at the same time, like I believe Mike hac

723
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 4: made this point last week before this fight took place,

724
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 4: and he's like, put those three guys in a list,

725
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 4: like who do you really want to see Vulcan fight,

726
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 4: like what would be the most entertaining fight? And I

727
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 4: feel like John Silva is the most entertaining fight.

728
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but see this is it just feels to me.

729
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, like, how do I explain this, Like, oh,

730
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: which one would I be most titillated by?

731
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well dude, I'm with you. I think it

732
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: should be movsar.

733
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me make a point. Let me make

734
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: a point, like, of course, when you're building a call, right,

735
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: you got it. If you're a matchmaker, if you're an

736
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: event promoter, you have to think about, hey, do we

737
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: have enough entertainment on this card, whether the main event,

738
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: comin event or just collectively, you know, are we fulfilling

739
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: fan expectation and demand? Right? You have to kind of

740
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: do that. But at the same time, there are certain

741
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,479
Speaker 1: fights that come along that you don't want to, like

742
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: disregard that chuck. But for a fight like Vulk, the

743
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: reason why I want him to see Moulsar is because

744
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,959
Speaker 1: I would like to see what it's like when in

745
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: two extremely high level guys have to problem solve in

746
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: the way that they present to one another. There is

747
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: a certain mystery and magic specific to elite elite problem

748
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: solving that the requests and demand for is this entertaining enough? Again,

749
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: these are not irrelevant concerns, but I think you have

750
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: to kind of put those a little lower on the

751
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: pecking order. In a special instance, were time Vulcan is

752
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: an all time great and Molsar has maybe the very

753
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: best non title resume of anyone currently in the UFC.

754
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: If you put guys like that together, some of these

755
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: other concerns that are relevant and Germane need to go

756
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: a little bit by the wayside.

757
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: In my opinion, you've got to You're gonna miss uh

758
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: Volkanovsku when he goes, aren't you, Because dude, he's he's

759
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 3: so like I saw that we you know, we were

760
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 3: talking about you, you went on about the cage cutting

761
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 3: with the you know when we were talking about that

762
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 3: with Diego, and then he basically goes on there and

763
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 3: expounds on that whole thing and talks about this, you know,

764
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 3: this situation of what what he's basically talking like. I

765
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: couldn't believe this dude didn't have the IQ to you know,

766
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 3: to fight like this is a guy telling you. And

767
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 3: even in that clip we just played, he was basically

768
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 3: kind of diagnosed and everything we're talking about here in

769
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 3: a very few words. He's saying, like, you know, I

770
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 3: was surprised, maybe felt like he had to do that,

771
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 3: but he was very strong when he wanted to wrestle,

772
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 3: meaning he could have won this fight a lot easier

773
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 3: if he'd wanted to just keep up what he usually does.

774
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: Which is condemned by the UFC.

775
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 3: He puts all that into one quick you know burst,

776
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 3: and you're like, that's how that's when you talk about

777
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 3: problem sol him.

778
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 2: That's what he does. He gives the essence of things

779
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: very quickly.

780
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 1: It's a great point. And you know, I'll give Murphy

781
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: some credit. I did think that Murphy had Murphy's ability

782
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: to break grip. I thought was really good. Yeah, you know,

783
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: certain certainly on a certain occasion, certain moments, he was

784
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: making most of our work for it. But that was

785
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: the interesting part to me too, Chuck, is like, once

786
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: he started wrestling, you were like, I mean that that

787
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: was really the dead giveaway, right, is like, once he

788
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: actually started wrestling, you're like, oh, this is.

789
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 3: Easy for him and have done it. He could have

790
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 3: done it a lot earlier and made his night easier,

791
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 3: but he just did. That's why you think that he

792
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 3: was doing it on purpose, just trying to prove a point,

793
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 3: but you know he would he end up with it

794
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 3: was something like nine takedowns over the course of basically

795
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 3: two rounds.

796
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: Yes, you know what I mean. That's that tells you

797
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: a lot right there.

798
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: Now, there was the injury to Murphy. I think that

799
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: probably hurt his ability to defend the takedown. But nevertheless,

800
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: like the idea that like he couldn't have done that

801
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: earlier is you know, yeah, he chose not to do

802
00:35:58,800 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 1: that earlier.

803
00:35:59,320 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

804
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: Funny part about all of this. I don't really know

805
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: where Loron Murphy goes from here, but he had a

806
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: back and forth with Diego Lopez on Twitter. Diego tweets, no, Lron,

807
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: we are not the same. Never do that again. I'm

808
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: not sure what that means exactly, and then the rone responds,

809
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: I didn't lay on my back and guard for three rounds. Bro,

810
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: let's fight next. I gotta tell you, I'm not sure

811
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: what's next for Larne, but that fight sounds suitable to me.

812
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be okay with that. I mean, I

813
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 3: actually kind of like that. They have some heat that

814
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 3: would make a lot of sense just thinking about it

815
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: really quickly. Here, what is the I mean, in a

816
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 3: weird way, like where does Diego go to? I mean

817
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 3: you kind of get to the like he gets his

818
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 3: title shot. What are you going to do with him?

819
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if you can't really plug him back

820
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 3: into a title situation. For a long time made jokes

821
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 3: about this and people were talking about it. But yeah,

822
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 3: so that's a good point. Diego still has to get

823
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 3: to buy the White House card fight that he has planned.

824
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 3: But he's very He's very good at like sort of

825
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 3: like planting seeds, you know.

826
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: I notice that over his.

827
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: Career also, Murphy might need some time to heal up

828
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: to I'm not sure what the extent of his injuries are.

829
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: But as I say this, mosts are a varied in

830
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: the end. In the end, a close fight, certainly early

831
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: a little bit more easy to read down the stretch.

832
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: Some interesting judging. Something to think about how we are

833
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: going to watch judging or watch performances again, And we

834
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: can't put all the blame on the broadcast, but we

835
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: also think cannot be ignorant that the broadcast can have

836
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: some effect. So something to think about going forward, all right,

837
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: let's talk about the rest of that UFC London main

838
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: card topic number two now to meet Yuck. We'll talk

839
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: more about this too. There were high highs and low

840
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: lows on this card, in both the prelimbs and the main,

841
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: but just with the main I didn't think this was

842
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: a high or low Luke Riley gets the job done,

843
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: I thought in defeating Michael aswell. But can I just

844
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: tell you what my problem with the fight was and

845
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: then you know, we could talk about it. Yeah, there

846
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: was nothing really wrong with the fight. There was nothing

847
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: really bad about the fight. Riley started a little slow,

848
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: which the commentators had kind of noted he does sometimes,

849
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: but then by the end of the third he was

850
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: kind of maybe cruising is a strong word, but you

851
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: could tell he was going to win a unanimous decision

852
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: victory in all likelihood. My problem is, while I understand

853
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: that they wanted to put him in a comin event role,

854
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: between him and as well the competitor they had a

855
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: combined three UFC fights, It's like, I don't think guys

856
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: like that should be in comin events. And this is

857
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: my major problem. I can't say the fight was bad

858
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: because it was not, But I can also not say

859
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: that the fight was particularly good. It wasn't. It was

860
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 1: just he this to me, this fight, to me, exemplifies

861
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: the era that we're in right now. It feels like

862
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: the diet soda era of MMA, where the guys are

863
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: good enough to respect, but no one made event notwithstanding.

864
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about the rest of the car, like,

865
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: no one's really doing anything that is noteworthy or special

866
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: or creative or different. Everyone's just kind of respectably good

867
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 1: and that's the end of it. I don't know if

868
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 1: you share that as a spit with this fight were

869
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 1: more broadly, but give me your feeling on the car.

870
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 3: Well, well, I think it was Long Island Luke that

871
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 3: was making this point about there's been a very different

872
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: approach to placement on cards, like where guys are being

873
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 3: set up. I remember we were talking about Oral b

874
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 3: I remember ended up on the prelims or something. We're like,

875
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 3: why isn't it like that fight should be on the

876
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 3: main card. This was a weird one because why not

877
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 3: just put this early on the main card? Why does

878
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 3: it have to be the comin event? It was very

879
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 3: strange in that way, right, I don't think either dude

880
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 3: had like a Wikipedia page either, Like it's like not

881
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 3: that this is like the end all gauge, but it's

882
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 3: just I'm with you on that sentiment for that reason,

883
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 3: Like these guys the fanfare, even if you know, even

884
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 3: if you've got an English fighter, you know, it's kind

885
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 3: of even Bellator would try to like sweeten the deal

886
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 3: with its comaine. They wouldn't have this fight as the

887
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like they wouldn't have that

888
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 3: the penultimate fight. It ended up being okay, Like I

889
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 3: was kind of like you, I felt like Riley kind

890
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: of you know, fed off the crowd and it was

891
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: that's what you should do in a big London event.

892
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: That's you've seen that in the past where guys are

893
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: able to do that.

894
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 3: He was able to kind of stuff the takedowns and

895
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 3: keep it standing and the like. There's some Chris Boskin

896
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 3: sequences like it was fine, it was a good victory,

897
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 3: but I was kind of like what you're saying there,

898
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: You're like, why did this have to Why is this

899
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 3: kind of the lead into what I thought was one

900
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 3: of the better main events for a fight night that

901
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 3: we've seen in a long time.

902
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure, like I think they were obviously

903
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 1: trying to set up Luke Riley, and we had talked

904
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: about it before you'd had a nice win. Previously he

905
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: was bat Boys with Patty Pimlet. Yeah, okay, fair enough,

906
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: But it's like, dude, I want people who are a

907
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: little bit seasoned or super and or anyway super creative

908
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: or you know, there's a reason to get hyped about

909
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 1: him other than just their nationality. Nationality is important, in fact,

910
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: it can be critical, but oftentimes it can be a

911
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: substitute for the other parts of fighting that you actually

912
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: need them to have more of. And I'm not again,

913
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: I'm not saying all it was so bad, it was

914
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: so terrible. No, no, it was not.

915
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 2: It was It was fine.

916
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: It was it was that was a problem. It was

917
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: just fine.

918
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 3: It was certainly better than the alternative they were going

919
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 3: to put MVP's fight on top of it, Like if

920
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 3: they're going to put him in the Comaine.

921
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: This was the right call in yeah, I mean relative prospect. Yeah,

922
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: relatives is that it was a better call. But it's

923
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: like there's probably a few of these that could have

924
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: gone into that oh as well. Yeah, yeah, all right,

925
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: so let's talk about that one. Michael Venham Page and

926
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: Sam Patterson just straight up, this is easily easily one

927
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: of the worst UFC fights I've ever seen. I don't

928
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: know what your reaction. Here's your tweet from it quote.

929
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if the full criteria, but if the

930
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: judges award caution MVP is running away with this fight,

931
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: it's a good zick chuck. What the fuck was that?

932
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 3: I don't know what it was, but actually probably I mean, honestly,

933
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 3: it was neck and neck because the other cat wasn't

934
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 3: exactly pressing the action. He did try to kind of

935
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 3: crowd him a little bit. Take away the you know,

936
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 3: take away MVP's arsenal put him on the fence. But

937
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: I mean that just kind of added to the dulness

938
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: of the event, like just the reluctance, the kind of

939
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 3: you know, constant deeking and movement to get in and

940
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 3: move him.

941
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: Back out, like it's just it.

942
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 3: The thing that came to mind, and I know a

943
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 3: lot of people made this reference was, you know, it

944
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 3: was the Ngano versus Derek Lewis fight. Only because you're

945
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 3: that particular fight, you had a huge anticipation that something

946
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 3: was gonna go down. The guy was somebody was gonna

947
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 3: get knocked out, that there was going to be action,

948
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 3: and that just didn't end up there. The difference between

949
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 3: MVP is that we've seen him in some duds before.

950
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: Man.

951
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: I went to the Mehigan Sun and I think it

952
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 3: was the Paul Daily fight. You're waiting for a fight

953
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 3: to break out and never really did. It was just

954
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 3: kind of like it was. It was kind of like

955
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 3: a stalemate for three rounds or whatever it was for

956
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 3: that fight. I was there and I just remember the

957
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 3: crowd just falling asleep during that fight, you know. And

958
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 3: so it's there's something about like him in general, like

959
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 3: at this point that I'm like, I don't know, man,

960
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 3: Like he came in with all that fanfare, but there

961
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 3: it's not translating for me.

962
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: Over the course of time he's hit or like, with

963
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: the right opponent he's the electric, and with sometimes what

964
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 1: you think is the right opponent, he it just doesn't

965
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: work at all. Like you mentioned the Paul Daily fight, Dude,

966
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: Sam Patterson, I remember looking this up when I did

967
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: my postfight show. Dude, he went into that fight first

968
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 1: round of your Naked choke over. Okay, not the name,

969
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: but Johann Lenex Keifer Crosby, he armed triangles in the

970
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: first round, Danny Barlow, he ko's in the first round.

971
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: Trey Waters, who's a respectable striker. He ko's in a

972
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: round one. You're like, Okay, you can see what the

973
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: UFC matchmakers were doing. They were trying to find a

974
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: guy who was just gonna go in there and bring

975
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: the fight to him, right, and then he just didn't.

976
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: So like, I'm happy partner, though, Like you don't put

977
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 3: a guy who kind of knows the tendencies right, Like.

978
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's the thing. It's like, there's that too.

979
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: But this is my point too. It's like I think

980
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: if people want to blame MVP, because he often is

981
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: somewhat the common denominator in this situations, I think in

982
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: this particular one, Patterson deserves more of the blame than

983
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: I agree.

984
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: That's why I kind of regretted the tweet because I

985
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 3: was like, I should have put it on both of them.

986
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 3: If you're going to make the joke, you should put

987
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: it on both of the fair enough, But I will

988
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 3: say that MVP is the A side.

989
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: He's the only reason that anybody cares.

990
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 3: So like, if there's gonna be higher scrutiny on kind

991
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: of deserving a reputation over the course of time, It's

992
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: going to fall to him, right at some point to

993
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 3: get something going in that fight. It just never happened,

994
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 3: and it never felt like it was going to. From

995
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 3: the first little bit of that, like first minute and

996
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 3: a half two minutes, I was like, oh boy, this

997
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 3: is gonna be a stinker. Man, you knew what was

998
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 3: happening here.

999
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: You get a guy who doesn't really want to engage

1000
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: that much and has good enough footwork to evade. Turns

1001
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: out that like, that's going to make for really bad

1002
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: fight with MVP, you know what I mean, because he's

1003
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: not going to chase him down and go for a takedown,

1004
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

1005
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 3: Remember that stretch with Anderson Silva where I mean it's

1006
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 3: hard to forget. But like he the Damian Mayle was

1007
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 3: like the high or the low point right like where

1008
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 3: he's just like you're waiting for him to rediscover some

1009
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 3: kind of passion to engage, like he was never going to.

1010
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 3: It felt like it was never coming until Chell's sun

1011
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 3: came along and to force something more out of him.

1012
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 3: But but like he went through a few fights where

1013
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 3: I remember people were complaining about him being and it

1014
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 3: was It's just it's a little similar in the sense,

1015
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: like a guy who has a reputation for being a

1016
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 3: sniper and can do some crazy things. Remember he put

1017
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 3: the dent in a evangelist to what's what's his name,

1018
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 3: Santo's head, which is just it's still one of those

1019
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 3: moments that I'm like, I can't even believe that happened.

1020
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 3: He's had those moments and I just remember they kind

1021
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 3: of reminds me Anderson Silva was always more engaging than this.

1022
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 3: He just because more of a showboat. I get, like

1023
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 3: similar showboat. So there's some similarities there, But finding the

1024
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 3: right guy for that's what it comes down to, is

1025
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 3: like almost finding the right guy for MVP. And that's

1026
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 3: I don't think the matchmakers want to play that game

1027
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 3: with I don't think they see him as worth it anymore.

1028
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 1: Do you think UFC will cut him?

1029
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 3: You know, when they didn't do the post fight like

1030
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 3: where they didn't go in there and and interview him,

1031
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 3: doesn't that usually signal like, dude, the truck is pissed

1032
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 3: like people are to like whoever's in the ears is like,

1033
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 3: do not interview that guy? We don't want anything to

1034
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 3: do with this, because I've heard those stories before. So

1035
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 3: the fact that that happened made me think that they

1036
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 3: just might part ways with him. Hell does he too,

1037
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 3: by the way, like he's he's up there in age

1038
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 3: like thirty eight? I mean, if he's not, if he's

1039
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 3: fighting in a swing type about in a London card,

1040
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 3: I don't know what. I know they have a ton

1041
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 3: of shows, but I'm like, I don't know what use

1042
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 3: he serves, maybe for what he's making in the UFC,

1043
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: Like I don't know if they'll see him as somebody

1044
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 3: who's like, nah, the red flags are too many.

1045
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: Get rid of him. I guess we'll see. Also on

1046
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: this main card, Christian Leroy Duncan defeated Roman Deleds v

1047
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: unanimous decision, and it's like, look, the longer that went,

1048
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: the more it was obvious that would see all these

1049
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: fight Would you call it a statement win?

1050
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 3: I mean it kind of depends on how you look

1051
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 3: at Deleds at this point too, right, Like, I mean

1052
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: I still thought that I thought the leaders would put

1053
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 3: on a pretty good performance here. But as that fight,

1054
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 3: especially as it played out, like there was such a

1055
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 3: speed difference and everything so It's kind of like, is

1056
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 3: is the Leeds declining enough where you can call a statement.

1057
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: I will say that this is probably the biggest win

1058
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 3: in that way of a guy who's had that juice

1059
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 3: that's kind of been up in that top ten space.

1060
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: I feel like this is a is a big win

1061
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 2: for him.

1062
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 3: It would have been better, obviously if he could put

1063
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 3: the fight away and make some kind of emphatic statement,

1064
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 3: but I didn't. I thought it was a good fight

1065
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 3: by him, just kind of like he had to kind

1066
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 3: of do some things in there and show showcase his

1067
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 3: speed advantage, and I thought he did that. It just

1068
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 3: wasn't you know, it wasn't like it was gonna I

1069
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 3: don't know what it does for him ultimately, to be honest,

1070
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 3: I'm like it just probably puts him into another situation where.

1071
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 2: He's fighting a guy at the Leeds's level.

1072
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: Right. I would also say, if I can, like, it's

1073
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: amazing how much if you got someone skilled enough at it,

1074
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: how much someone can survive in a fight in turtle. Yeah,

1075
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: you know, there used to be a thing where you

1076
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: just kind of cover up in turtle like this, and

1077
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: then you know the fight would be over soon after

1078
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 1: you got need in the in the ribs or something,

1079
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: and now guys are finding ways to like grab appendages

1080
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: or roll through or you know. Yeah, so it ended

1081
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: up being that like Delize would either get dropped or

1082
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: go to the ground and then cover through turtle or

1083
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: trying to grab a heel from guard and cold couldn't

1084
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: really pour on the offense after that, right, So it's

1085
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: like it's definitely his best way in terms of name value.

1086
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: It's definitely gonna move him all up a lot in

1087
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: the rankings. I just can't call it a statement win.

1088
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've pointed this out in the past, like guys

1089
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,959
Speaker 3: have figured out in general, and part of that maybe

1090
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 3: this is one of the reasons where the doing experience

1091
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 3: is at the same or the excitement levels at the

1092
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 3: same to nullify certain situations where they're in trouble and

1093
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 3: things like that. Like, I feel like this is an evolution,

1094
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 3: a small evolution within the game to survive and when

1095
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 3: a guy doesn't You've mentioned this in the past, So

1096
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 3: when a guy doesn't have the next level then to

1097
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 3: figure out how to put him away, it becomes a

1098
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 3: stalemate in a weird way, even though the one guy's

1099
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 3: clearly on top and he's winning the fight. And I

1100
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 3: feel like we've seen a lot of that lately, just

1101
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 3: where guys just can't they cannot. The other guy has

1102
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 3: just enough to kind of hang on, and it's clear

1103
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 3: that he'll do that as long as he has to,

1104
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 3: and the other I can't figure out how to put

1105
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:01,439
Speaker 3: them away.

1106
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: I think people think about developing skills as a question

1107
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: of like striking, grappling or even grappling scenarios. And I

1108
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: don't know the answer to this because I'm not in

1109
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: gyms enough to really say, but I I really wonder

1110
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 1: about how much finishing is thought of as a skill.

1111
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 1: I mean not just oh, if I have back mount,

1112
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: I'll finish with a real naked choke, but I mean

1113
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: more broadly, how to funnel a fight into a fight

1114
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: ending scenario and then ultimately close that off. It seems

1115
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: like that ability to funnel in that direction is almost

1116
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: serendipity in certain cases, like I'm just gonna do my

1117
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: game and I might win, and I might get a

1118
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: win of a great name, But am I actually funneling?

1119
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: Like Eliot Suporia funnels the fight very clearly into fight

1120
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: ending scenarios, and then he's got big power of course,

1121
00:49:58,719 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 1: you know to make it work.

1122
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 3: But it does feel like you said, sera day, but

1123
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 3: that's what it feels like. It feels like, okay, I'm

1124
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 3: in this position now, like I don't know. It's just

1125
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 3: it's an interesting development. It used to be that guys

1126
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 3: had no poise in this issue. They dropped somebody, they'd

1127
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 3: launch in there, maybe recklessly and end up, you know,

1128
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 3: in a bad situation, or they would just have.

1129
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 2: A wrong instinct and the way that they approached it.

1130
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 3: But these days, I just feel like they just don't

1131
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 3: They don't like they're getting nullified when they go in

1132
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 3: for the kill and they just don't know what to

1133
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 3: do from that spot.

1134
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 2: It's just it's a.

1135
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 3: It's a weird development, but I feel like the game

1136
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 3: has to keep evolving otherwise we're going to see a

1137
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 3: lot more of that.

1138
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: Also for Delidze, I mean, he was coming off the

1139
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: loss to Anthony Hernandez, which was a bit of a beating.

1140
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: He didn't he didn't look too great to meet Chuck.

1141
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: He looked like not over the hill, although he's certainly

1142
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: getting older at thirty seven. He didn't look to me

1143
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: over the hill. He looked to me gun shy a

1144
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: little bit.

1145
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: Is that your role And it might have been from

1146
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 2: that fight.

1147
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 3: Like so we see that so often, man, where a

1148
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 3: guy gets he really gets pieced up, and then in

1149
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 3: the next fight they're just not the same fight. I

1150
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 3: don't know if ultimately that's what's going on with him,

1151
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 3: but I did notice that. And it's always a hard

1152
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 3: thing because you're like, well, dude, at thirty seven, you

1153
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 3: don't have like, I don't know how long he wants

1154
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 3: to go in the game.

1155
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 2: He's got other businesses.

1156
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 3: I know he has like a grocery store that he

1157
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 3: owns in his own h city, but he's definitely got

1158
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 3: other interests in other I don't know if he wants

1159
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 3: to be in the game that long. So it's at

1160
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 3: that point you're are like, well, leave it all out

1161
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 3: there when you can. Otherwise, what are we doing here?

1162
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: Yeah? All right in hindsight, given the way that it went,

1163
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: and I got to bring in Long Island Luke here.

1164
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: Actually we should talk about this Long Island Danny Silva

1165
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: just kind of running over Curtis Campbell. Curtis Campbell, did

1166
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: you notice when he was doing the you know, before

1167
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: the fight, they're like they're sitting in the chair and

1168
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, tonight, I'm going to get the

1169
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: best win of my life. They do all that shit.

1170
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: Did you notice he had the same haircut as the

1171
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: Abiza final boss? Did you see that?

1172
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 4: I just want to say I was talking mad shit

1173
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 4: about Curtis Campbell, Like I wasn't even meaning to, but

1174
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 4: I was like, why the fuck is this guy on

1175
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 4: the main cart And it was just very, very satisfying

1176
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 4: to see how that fight went because I got to

1177
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 4: give Danny Segura shout out to Danny Segura was like, Yo,

1178
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 4: Danny Silva is the truth. I'm telling you, this guy's underrated.

1179
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 4: He was like a plus two hundred dogs. So shout

1180
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 4: out to Danny Silva. That was a great one. That

1181
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 4: was arguably my favorite fight of the night. Honestly, well,

1182
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 4: main event was obviously my favorite fight. YEA, yeah, Chuck,

1183
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 4: what'd you say an outcome? Because he had money on it,

1184
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that. I bought into, you know, the

1185
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 4: full on, Like I felt like he was getting more

1186
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 4: shine than he should have.

1187
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 3: What is he like twenty three years old? I felt

1188
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 3: like they're kind of putting him into a crazy situation.

1189
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: Here.

1190
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,439
Speaker 3: You know, Gar saida like, he's got more, he has

1191
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 3: the experience factor. So it was almost like, Okay, if

1192
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 3: if the kid goes in there and he's able to

1193
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 3: do work, it's going to look good. But there was

1194
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 3: this I felt like there was a very high risk

1195
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 3: of something like this happened. I remember Chase Hooper back

1196
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,479
Speaker 3: in the day when he was about twenty or twenty whatever,

1197
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 3: it was very young. He ran into Alex Cacera's remember,

1198
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 3: and it was like, not that they were the same,

1199
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 3: who didn't He wasn't like being circled in a big

1200
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 3: way like this yet, but there was enough people who

1201
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 3: were paying attention to him, and you know, you see

1202
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 3: him running too something he doesn't know how to handle yet.

1203
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 3: And that's kind of what this looked like to me,

1204
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 3: was he was trying very hard at his plan A,

1205
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 3: which was to get the fight to the ground and

1206
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 3: like do something there, and when that was kind of

1207
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 3: shut down and it didn't last long in that second round,

1208
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 3: like you know what I mean, And that always seems

1209
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 3: to me, like you said about Raoul Rosaws Junior, is

1210
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 3: you don't want to get any you don't want to

1211
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 3: get your experience in the UFC. As you That's what

1212
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 3: it felt like happened there. He had to learn some

1213
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 3: lessons in a real fight that goes on his record here.

1214
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 1: That's the thing. It's like, I think he went into

1215
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 1: this fight. I think he's now I believe now he's

1216
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: eight and or ASRS is like seven and one. But

1217
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 1: I believe he went into the fight seven and oh,

1218
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 1: And I'm like, dude, what is he now? Well, he's

1219
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: got two fights in the UFC. I'm on the UFC.

1220
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 1: He's eight and one, all right, so you know, still

1221
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: less than ten fights and you're already you're already in UFC.

1222
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: That like, I mean again, there are going to be

1223
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 1: cases where that's totally fine. But a dog who calls

1224
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 1: himself the Pink Panther looks like the ABISA final boss

1225
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: with a weird ponytail like the Who's of Whovill at

1226
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,919
Speaker 1: the top of his head, It's like, brother, you're gonna

1227
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: get washed doing this shit, Like you're not ready for

1228
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: this at all. That was a strange one to me.

1229
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: That was I don't know what to say about the

1230
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: fight that we all knew was gonna go real badly,

1231
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: but it went up perfect.

1232
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 3: You're like well he comes down now he's dehydrated with

1233
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 3: a chinny, you know, like and like, yeah, well here

1234
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 3: it is.

1235
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: It's Ewo Barnefski. I'm sure, Barnuskim, I'm sure I'm saying

1236
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: his name wrong. Against Austin Lane, Austin Lane has been

1237
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: not this is not I'm not even sure what on

1238
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: the regional scene has happened to him. But in Contender

1239
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: Series in twenty eighteen, he got viciously kao, he got

1240
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: viciously Uh there was a could not continue or I

1241
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: guess uh, I guess he I poked Justin Tafa. He

1242
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: rematches him, gets knocked out in a minute, in twenty

1243
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,240
Speaker 1: two seconds. He that has a fight against Jonathan Denise,

1244
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 1: he gets knocked out ko. He then has a fight

1245
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: against Mario Pintu, he gets knocked out. He has a

1246
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: fight against Vitor Petrino, he gets choked out, and then

1247
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: he drops down against this dude who is I think

1248
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: limited but you know, heavy handed and certainly willing to

1249
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: knuckle up. It's I don't I what why did they

1250
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: make this fight? What was the point of making this fight?

1251
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: I genuinely don't get it.

1252
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 3: I don't either, other than if they're saying, all right, also,

1253
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 3: you got one more chance, but we're gonna put you

1254
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 3: against this dude. Wo knocks everbody out in the first round,

1255
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 3: so good luck. And then that's how it played out.

1256
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 3: Now they can say cina because I don't. I don't really,

1257
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 3: Like we've talked about this before. Sometimes the quality of

1258
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 3: the fighters themselves is just not you know, it's not

1259
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 3: where it used to be. And Austin Lane is in that,

1260
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 3: you know, to me, like that's he probably he just

1261
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 3: shouldn't be in the UFC, you know, And and I

1262
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 3: don't need to see him keep getting knocked out to

1263
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 3: prove that point.

1264
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: Dude. I was making this point on Twitter the other day.

1265
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: People will being like, you know, how's a guy like

1266
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: this allowed on the roster? He's got one, two, three, four, five, six,

1267
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: seven losses to wins, so he's two and seven in

1268
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: the UFC dating all the way back to twenty eighteen.

1269
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, understand something the UFC, and no

1270
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,760
Speaker 1: one does. Obviously if the UFC doesn't, but like, let's

1271
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: talk about UFC. UFC does not have a roster that

1272
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: can make forty three weeks of seven hour events and

1273
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: not get filler in a bunch of different directions. This

1274
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: is merely one kind of filler. There's other kinds of

1275
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: filler that you can use. There's no like you could

1276
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: maybe do forty three weeks, chuck if you dated them

1277
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: all like UFC White House five six fights, right, you

1278
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Right? But if you want fine

1279
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 1: with seven hour events, Austin Lane's are going to show

1280
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: up left and right. And I mean, at least we

1281
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: were talking about this before. At least it wasn't just

1282
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: a decision where you know that there's no hope of

1283
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: any kind of finish, right, Like this was more like

1284
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: what we were talking about with the beltor prelims, where

1285
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Speaker 1: so they'd take them out on a stretcher and throw

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Speaker 1: the next guys in.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 3: It was more like that, which is unusual for the UFC,

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Speaker 3: but that's how it felt. But it's just also like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean quality control is a function of revenue

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Speaker 1: control at this point, and the two are not expressly

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the rest of the UFC London card.

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Speaker 1: This is now the prelimbs and as I mentioned before,

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Speaker 1: this is a case of high highs and very low lows.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the Hives. Very simple question was Mason

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Speaker 1: Jones versus Axel Sola? Is that a Fight of the

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Speaker 1: Year contender?

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Speaker 3: You know, Man, I was thinking about this and I

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Speaker 3: think it is so far obviously where you were young

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Speaker 3: in the year, but you had like you had a

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Speaker 3: couple of components there being in England, and I think

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Speaker 3: that that crowd really kind of you could feel that

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Speaker 3: there was a big energy around it. And a lot

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Speaker 3: of times that will translate if it was at the Apex,

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Speaker 3: for instance, this you may not have help and you

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Speaker 3: probably you know, of course, would not feel that kind

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Speaker 3: of energy. But the fact that both dude just stood

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Speaker 3: in there, man and just did that, and you always

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Speaker 3: get like it's just like the Gustafson Jones thing where

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Speaker 3: they're in the hospital afterwards, these guys afterwards are like

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Speaker 3: they're hugging each other and they're showing you like that

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00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 3: there it was all sportsmen and they're like they love

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00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 3: each other for going to battle. I love when you

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Speaker 3: get this kind of matchup man, where they're just like,

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Speaker 3: let's see if you can last in my wheelhouse along

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Speaker 3: and we'll just keep doing that until the fight ends.

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Speaker 1: Man Solo was one of these guys that people in

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Speaker 1: Europe had told me about. They're like, oh my got it.

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Speaker 1: For folks who don't know Aries FC a French promotion, dude,

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01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: Aries produces a ton of top prospects. That's that's a promotion.

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Speaker 1: Cage Warriors is another. Octagon is another aris. You want

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Speaker 1: to keep your eye on them. They got a lot

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Speaker 1: of hammers coming out of there. Dude, Sola looked easy, enormous.

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Speaker 1: It was comparative because Bason Jones is about a right size,

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Speaker 1: maybe slightly undersized light way, but not by much right

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Speaker 1: And look at Sola, he just looks like another weight

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Speaker 1: class above him. Hits him with a spinning backfist in

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Speaker 1: the first round, clearly takes it. Jones. To me, Chuck

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Speaker 1: looked like he was physically outmatched for sure, Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: just had so much dog's raft. So that marriage of

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Speaker 1: dog and craft, you could see, it was enough to

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Speaker 1: overcome some of those physical differences.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned, like the leads and fluffy. Like I always

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01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 3: wonder when you see guys in this kind of fight,

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Speaker 3: You're like, how many do you have in you like this?

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Speaker 3: Because some guys have a lot, they have a big amount.

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Speaker 3: They can just go in there and just throw down recklessly,

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Speaker 3: you know. And I'd like there was skill to this,

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Speaker 3: but I mean just recklessly in terms of self preservation.

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Speaker 3: You're not overly concerned with how you're gonna feel later

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Speaker 3: tomorrow or.

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Speaker 2: Like a year or two year or whatever it is.

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Speaker 3: Dude, he that that dog in him just doesn't let

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Speaker 3: him let him stop, you know, I thought that that

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Speaker 3: was why when you when you see something like that

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01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 3: unfold right where a guy is getting hurt, but then

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Speaker 3: he's still the one dictating terms afterwards, and you see

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Speaker 3: that kind of fight is always the plot kind of

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Speaker 3: switching back for it seems like it's teetering on the edge.

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Speaker 3: That's when you get these fight of the year type conversations.

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01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 3: Is this when guys look like they cannot sustain something

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01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 3: and yet they do. But man, yeah, Mason Jones to

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Speaker 3: me like, I don't know how many I don't know

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Speaker 3: how often he can do that, because I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you can get up for a fight and be like,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna put it all, I will die for this fight.

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Speaker 3: Some guys have that a couple of times in their career,

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Speaker 3: But that felt to me like one of his like, uh,

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Speaker 3: you know one of his cards he used. All right,

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Speaker 3: here's one of the here's one of the here's one

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Speaker 3: of the moments I'm gonna put it all out there.

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Speaker 2: I don't have many of these, but here's one of those.

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Speaker 1: You know, Long Island, this fight tremendous, tremendous fucking skill

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Speaker 1: in this one.

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Speaker 4: I did just say earlier that Danny Silva was my

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Speaker 4: favorite fighter. I meant favorite finish of the night. This

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Speaker 4: was obviously the best fight night.

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Speaker 2: Look at the scar on his face. They put stitches.

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Speaker 2: This is some anime reference.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what that figure is there, but either way,

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01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 4: look at that fucking scar.

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Speaker 1: Dude, do you know what that scar reminds me of?

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Speaker 6: It?

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01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: Actually, the one I'm gonna reference is worse than this one,

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Speaker 1: but they're both pretty fucking bad. Do you remember the

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Speaker 1: scar that Nick Diaz had after fighting Takanori Gomi. Oh? Yeah,

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01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: he had to get sixteen stitches on the inside of

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Speaker 1: the cut, and then another sixteen just to close it right.

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Speaker 1: So there was a the tissue underneath had to be

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Speaker 1: bound and then the flesh.

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Speaker 2: Are the usual to be there.

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01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 3: It's usually, like you know, you'll see some beove the

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Speaker 3: brow or whatever, but it's unusual to see that deep

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01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 3: of a cut below the eye, and.

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Speaker 1: It was it was from those knees that Mason kept throwing. Yeah,

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01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: he just kept adding them to the end of a

1419
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: combinations and it kept working and kept working. So Sola

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Speaker 1: one of those guys, to me, clearly has a lot

1421
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: of potential, but some seasoning to do as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you think, Yeah, I mean that's what I was

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01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 3: gonna say. We're talking about Mason, But like that was

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Speaker 3: some newfound respect for him too, man, because his fight

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01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 3: or like the fight he had a couple of fights

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Speaker 3: he's had relatively easy in terms of like how he's

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01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 3: up with good, So you didn't know how he you know,

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Speaker 3: I didn't know if he'd be able to have this

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01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 3: kind of fight kind of with the with the hype

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01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 3: he's had a little bit, So that was that was

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Speaker 3: cool to see too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I agree with you. I think he's got

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Speaker 2: a bright future.

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Speaker 3: He loses probably nothing in terms of the perception of

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Speaker 3: what he's able to do, right.

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Speaker 1: No, just needs to make sure he kind of works on.

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01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: He couldn't keep Mason Jones off of him. Yeah, that

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01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: is I cannot tell you how often I'm watching that

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01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 1: in tape these days. Guys who can move, guys who

1440
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 1: can land, but fundamentally they can't keep a guy from

1441
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: encroaching upon them. And Sola, even though he was the

1442
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: bigger physical guy got it just tells you the level

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01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: of skill that Mason Jones had to overcome that. Like

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01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 1: the fact that Mason Jones was landing knees at all

1445
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: for a guy who had a longer reach and was

1446
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: kind of powerful, just sort of indicates.

1447
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 2: Like like which sometimes to deal with.

1448
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, all right, man, God fucking Jesus, just fucking

1449
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: get rid of heavyweight dude. I'm you know, Curtis Blades

1450
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: I think got mad at me on ig when I

1451
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 1: suggested this, But like, I don't know, we can.

1452
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Speaker 3: Make if we get rid of him. We don't have

1453
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 3: to hear his criticisms anyway. You can just well, I

1454
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 3: like Curtis.

1455
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 1: Like the thing about Curtis Blades is this would not

1456
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 1: apply to him, because Curtis is obviously talented enough. I

1457
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: don't this not doesn't apply to him. But like it's like, Curtis,

1458
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 1: you can't be that mad at me, bro, because look

1459
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: at the fucking crop around you. Mario Pintu gotta win

1460
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: over Felipe Franco and dude Gribacca hit Man again, who

1461
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: is kind of like a very reliable measurement of quality.

1462
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: Was like even I've never heard of this guy, and

1463
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: Pinto couldn't put him away. I what do you what?

1464
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 6: What?

1465
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: What is there to say about this fight?

1466
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 3: I don't even know one of Pentu's wins was against

1467
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 3: Austin Lane.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so.

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Speaker 3: That's that you can say about it. I mean there,

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Speaker 3: I didn't really I didn't. I don't know if you

1471
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Speaker 3: had an expectation on this fight was a little bit.

1472
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Speaker 1: I didn't mark a little bit.

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01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks the part too, He does look the part.

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Speaker 3: I was like, so, I guess I had a lot.

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01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 3: I guess I did too. But there's always this in

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01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 3: the back of your mind, Like I mean, these days,

1477
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 3: like heavyweight, you just there's always in the back of

1478
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 3: mind it's going to be a dud. And yeah, I

1479
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Speaker 3: didn't feel like he you know, he didn't do himself

1480
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 3: any favors. He got the win, but like I just,

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Speaker 3: you know, there's not gonna be any buzz come off

1482
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 3: his name.

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Speaker 1: Man. I saw this fight and I was like, bro,

1484
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Speaker 1: come the fuck on, Like, can there possibly be a

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Speaker 1: heavyweight prospect who? Come? Can we get a heavyweight prospect

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01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: in MMA who doesn't have a criminal future or history

1487
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: and good h doesn't love the N word and is

1488
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: also good at fighting? Can we get that? Is that?

1489
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 1: That is apparently very very That's a pretty heavy check

1490
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 1: this heavy Nathaniel would to me scored a really nice victory.

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01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: It was via decision, which I don't think is going

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01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: to help U stock too too much. But in listen

1493
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Speaker 1: a Kitas, I guess how you pronounce it, kaita double

1494
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: champ out of Octagon coming into this very good fighter.

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01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: You know, it certainly made it a little bit interesting

1496
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: down the stretch of times, but would quality win. I

1497
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 1: just don't know what it does for him on the prelim.

1498
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 3: Card, and almost so like he fills a good role

1499
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 3: for these London cards because you know, he goes in there.

1500
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 3: It's always such a national pride and he puts on

1501
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 3: a show and it's a decision.

1502
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 2: I think.

1503
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 3: You know, we're talking about Evolov, but like going back

1504
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 3: to you know what is it twenty eighteen is the

1505
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 3: last time he had a finish and a fight then

1506
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 3: it was not far behind him, I think's twenty nineteen.

1507
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 3: So it's like one of those things. He started off

1508
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 3: pretty fast in the UFC, had some nice finishes early on,

1509
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 3: and since then has had nice performance and you can

1510
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 3: tell that he wants to put the guys away, but

1511
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 3: you just can't get it done. It's like that's a

1512
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 3: similar frustration we were talking about. But a good performance.

1513
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 3: And again, what's the cast name who's just fighting Kata?

1514
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: How do you say his name? They pronounced it on

1515
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: the broadcast is Lusine Kaita Kita.

1516
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 2: Okay, but he doesn't check the boxes we just talked about.

1517
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 3: I think they said he was in prison for like

1518
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 3: four months for fighting illegally, So I mean, thank you

1519
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 3: for that.

1520
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:36,439
Speaker 2: Probably it was a.

1521
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 1: Split decision that he kind of had to earn it.

1522
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 1: But I did think that Wood was the rightful guy,

1523
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 1: like the right guy won. To me, I thought he

1524
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 1: won the end. Now, those were the top three fights.

1525
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 1: It was Pin two versus Franco, Wood versus Kaita, and

1526
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: then Jones versus Sola and again Jones Sola and no

1527
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 1: complaints at all. Tremendous, tremendous action. But dude, after that,

1528
01:07:54,640 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: why okay about shim Rock. Sham Rock got his ship rocked.

1529
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 1: I mean that was he got whooped up on in

1530
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: that one. Antonio Tricoli genuinely might be the worst fighter

1531
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: in the UFC, And I don't know if that's true,

1532
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: but I mean I don't know what he's doing there. Uh,

1533
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 1: your boy, Long Island, Brando Parachic.

1534
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 2: I told you he was gonna get him out of

1535
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 2: there quick, and he did.

1536
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 4: I mean it was definitely the worst, like the least

1537
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 4: uh aesthetically pleasing.

1538
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 2: Finish of the night. You know, it was just like whatever.

1539
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 4: And Louis Sutherland, man, he's got big belly, but uh

1540
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 4: my boy getting it done.

1541
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 2: Look, you know you gotta you gotta roof for the.

1542
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't have to root again.

1543
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 1: I don't have to root for him. The only one

1544
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 1: that was a little bit the only one that was

1545
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 1: a little bit interesting to me was the Chanel Dyer

1546
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 1: win over Haavena Olivera. She did in the second round. Uh,

1547
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 1: Dyer had a tough ass fight on Contender series and

1548
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 1: lost it. But I think it's genuinely, you know, a

1549
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: pretty decent fighter, real real quick. Before I throw it

1550
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 1: to you, we have video of her. She won the

1551
01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 1: one of the bonuses.

1552
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 5: Let's take a look.

1553
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: It's good for her. Like I said, she had a

1554
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 1: tough Final Contender series. She had, but dude, those bottom

1555
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 1: four fights. Again, I appreciate what Dyer was able to do.

1556
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 1: Why why are these fights happening at UFC?

1557
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 3: Why will I will only say in her defense like

1558
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 3: I've had Pzz, you know, PiZZ at the crack he was.

1559
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 3: He is high on her eventually becoming a champion. So

1560
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 3: if somebody actually tells he's hot on crack, no, yes

1561
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 3: he is. Yeah, he'd admit to that. But like you

1562
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 3: see somebody like that and you'll pay a little bit

1563
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 3: of attention. I have to say that multi clench that

1564
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 3: she got, like that she had there like reminded of

1565
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 3: Vanerson Silver Franklin for a minute, like a little bit. Yeah,

1566
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 3: So I mean that was that was you know again,

1567
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 3: it's not the highest quality of fight, and but I

1568
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 3: was happy for her.

1569
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 2: You know who was the one that was like, give

1570
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 2: me a bonus, I'm broke, I'm broke.

1571
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 1: That that was Danny Silva. That was Danny Silva. I

1572
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 1: was like, I couldn't remember. Yeah, it's never a good look,

1573
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: is it?

1574
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 3: Like every time somebody does this, I'm like, you feel

1575
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 3: like the UFC would almost be like, hey, guys, please

1576
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 3: don't say that you're broke on there. You know, I

1577
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 3: remember they used to kind of put a mandate or

1578
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 3: at least of a very strongly suggested like please don't

1579
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 3: talk about your full time jobs.

1580
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 2: Because I remember Shane Carwin when he was fighting.

1581
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 3: This just fighting brocolos, and the're like, please don't tell

1582
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 3: people your full time engineer with a day job and

1583
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:36,640
Speaker 3: you just do this as a as a kind of

1584
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 3: lark or whatever it was. But this strikes me even

1585
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 3: worse because you're like, I mean, I know he hasn't

1586
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 3: had a ton of fights, but you've had fights in

1587
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 3: the UFC, and to say things like that, it's always like,

1588
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 3: oh my god, man, especially right now where everybody's kind

1589
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 3: of scrutinizing fight or pay.

1590
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 1: I forget his first name, but I think his last

1591
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 1: name was DeLorme. He was a Canadian guy, and this

1592
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 1: is during the Fox era. I remember he like did

1593
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 1: an area used to do those backstage at the time.

1594
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 1: I remember, yeah, yeah, and we were fighting at the

1595
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: time and uh together. And I remember I got one

1596
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 1: of his videos because because what Ariel would do back

1597
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: then is the guys would come back and he would

1598
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 1: do the interview for Fox, and then he would do

1599
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: another one for us at MM fighting, and then Casey

1600
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: would send me the video. We would have to get

1601
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 1: the video up. And I watched it and he was like, yeah,

1602
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 1: my water got turned off. I haven't even had water

1603
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:29,799
Speaker 1: at my house. I was like, fuck, that's another level

1604
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 1: of broke. You don't even have indoor plumbing anymore. Holy shit, man.

1605
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 2: And I've heard stories like that too, Like I've heard

1606
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 2: them throughout the course of time, sometimes from veterans at least.

1607
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 2: When I say veterans, like at least like five fight

1608
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 2: type guys you know, who've had plenty of fights, and

1609
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 2: you're like, what, Wow, does that happen? Man?

1610
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 1: It's just it's crazy. I don't know, I don't know.

1611
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the other main well not main event,

1612
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: but other well main event too, but the other kind

1613
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 1: of big ish event that took place in well, Europe,

1614
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 1: a lot happening over there in Europe. But the other

1615
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 1: big organization was it inn Abitha. See that's the thing,

1616
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 1: Like I learned South American Spanish, so I'm just going

1617
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 1: to ignore how the Spanish do it. It's a really

1618
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 1: weird thing to hear because it's people think it's just

1619
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,799
Speaker 1: on the Z and it's not. It's on several different letters,

1620
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 1: like the verb, the syr D E C I R.

1621
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 1: They say it's.

1622
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 2: Like, well, I feel like you know better than me,

1623
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 2: so or you.

1624
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 1: Know, also like Bartha Lona I'm like, look at me,

1625
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 1: look at me, Spangers. I'm not doing that. Okay, I'm

1626
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 1: doing Barcelona. It's all they invented the language. Don't care, Yeah,

1627
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 1: don't care. All right, let's talk about this. Speaking of Spain,

1628
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 1: by the way, And they went to Madrid, my favorite

1629
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 1: city maybe in the entire world. So the PFL goes

1630
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 1: to Madrid and in the main event, Chuck Costella Vansteinas

1631
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: finishes off Fabian Edwards via elbows. Look, we can't show

1632
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: the video, but you can see here. So let me

1633
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 1: set this up. Edwards is going for a takedown on

1634
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 1: van Steinas on the fence and kind of gets not

1635
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: stuck in this position, but he's, what would you say, Chuck,

1636
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 1: hanging out there a little bit, just hanging out a

1637
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 1: little bit, and ven Stinas starts to land elbows that

1638
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 1: are doing damage and they go uncontested, and so he

1639
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 1: just keeps doing it and he wins the for that,

1640
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,600
Speaker 1: wins the belt, but defends the belt as a consequence

1641
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: of that. So we talked on Friday Show Chuck with

1642
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: Jed who is probably high on meth when he does

1643
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 1: these shows. But yeah, nevertheless, no, probably do it. Yeah,

1644
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 1: it's like dude, I can get a contact high from

1645
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 1: meth off of his after stand close knough.

1646
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 2: I'm dumb, and I really want to vape.

1647
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 1: Love that one. Tell the people we have a soundboard now.

1648
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 2: We do have a soundboard now. But again, I'm a

1649
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 2: one man operation here, so it's doing a good job.

1650
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 2: I'm just staring at it waiting play the one. I'm

1651
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 2: dubbed T and I really want to vape. I'm dumb,

1652
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 2: te and I really want to vape. That's a real

1653
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 2: cool love it.

1654
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: That's so great, all right? But this is what like,

1655
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 1: look this one, man, I'm gonna pitch it to you, Jack.

1656
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to take away from Van Stinas, who

1657
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 1: was on the high of his fucking career. But does

1658
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 1: Faban have some fight IQ issues? What do you think? Well?

1659
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 3: I thought this very this very thing when he was

1660
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 3: like this happens, right, He's gonna wrestle like I don't

1661
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 3: know it was. It was do you remember the fight

1662
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 3: was a Gabroe Gonzaga versus Travis Brown. Same thing. It

1663
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 3: was like Gabro Gonzaga got low. He kept doing that.

1664
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: No no, no no, Travis Brown versus Josh Barnette.

1665
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 3: Is that the one. Yes, okay, sure, I'm sure of it. Okay,

1666
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 3: because he started just like boom boom, same thing. It

1667
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 3: totally reminded me of that, like where you're like, okay, dude,

1668
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:41,560
Speaker 3: those are landing and then all of a sudden you

1669
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 3: just see him crumpling.

1670
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 2: You know, he's out, he's.

1671
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 1: Out from this.

1672
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 2: That was what it reminded me of. It was just

1673
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 2: it was a.

1674
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 3: I don't know why the insistence was there, like and

1675
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, sometimes you'll see this and like I say,

1676
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 3: there's poor decision making and something like that. I'm like, dude,

1677
01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 3: either you've got a really bad game plan and you

1678
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 3: you can do it, or you're just not in the

1679
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 3: feel of what's going on. But that was not that

1680
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 3: was not that was not the way to go, not

1681
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 3: in that kind of fight.

1682
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: Right.

1683
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,640
Speaker 3: They had a close fight the first time, so yes, So,

1684
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 3: I mean I didn't really think it would go down

1685
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 3: in some weird way like that. But I'm with you.

1686
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 3: It's kind of split. I think fancy it was crazy

1687
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 3: that he was an underdog. Longlan brought this up being

1688
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 3: in Spain and all that stuff. I really thought he

1689
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 3: was the face, he should be the favorite in that fight.

1690
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 3: But dude, I didn't think it would go down like that.

1691
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 1: No, dude, I it's amazing to me how much fighters

1692
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 1: spend time in skill development, which of course I have

1693
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: no issue with as a general observation, but like, for example,

1694
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 1: you brought Diego Lopez. We spent a lot of time

1695
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 1: you and I talking about in that rematch before Volk.

1696
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 1: It's like it's like it's like, dude, I'm a shit

1697
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 1: ass nobody, and I'm like, you need to cage cut.

1698
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 1: I can see it on tape, and then he goes

1699
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 1: in there and he doesn't do it, So like a

1700
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: big one is tacked, like what are what are the

1701
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 1: tactics with the strategies, and like are we watching tape

1702
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:06,640
Speaker 1: to really understand are we funneling people not really to

1703
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 1: fight ending scenarios, but are we funneling them physically into

1704
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 1: different places in the cage to then pop them. I

1705
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 1: can tell you, like, for example, a guy like Eric Nixon,

1706
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 1: their whole system is built on moving people either directionally

1707
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,600
Speaker 1: or you know, into certain places that they want to,

1708
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 1: you know, to then do damage or thinking about physical location.

1709
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 1: The other one is just about you know, general best

1710
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 1: practices about what you want to do beyond like you know,

1711
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 1: more generic or or striking scenarios. So like, for for

1712
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 1: folks who didn't see this fight, the first fight between

1713
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 1: van Stinas and Edwards was kind of a who hum affair,

1714
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 1: and you know, largely even ish on the feet. Maybe

1715
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 1: van Stina is a little bit better or at least

1716
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 1: landing in bigger shots maybe is a better way to

1717
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: put that, and then using some groundwork to kind of

1718
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 1: get ahead. In the rematch, it didn't look like that,

1719
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 1: Like Words was doing really well on the feet and

1720
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:03,640
Speaker 1: he wasn't like crushing him or anything, but you know

1721
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 1: he was I thought he was the better guy on

1722
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 1: the feet, and then he would just wrestle for no

1723
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: particular reason. And it's like you got mounted and elbowed

1724
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 1: in the first fight. I'm not saying you had to

1725
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 1: like avoid the ground at all costs, but if you're

1726
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 1: winning on the feet, why are we even entertaining this

1727
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 1: mixing up position Because it wasn't like Vancinas was like

1728
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 1: blitzing and you know, making it really dangerous for him.

1729
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 1: He was kind of just playing off the other side

1730
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 1: of that. And we had also said on Friday's MK Chuck,

1731
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: you know, people ask me like, how would you describe

1732
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 1: Van Stinas's style, And it's like I said this on

1733
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 1: Friday's MK. You can look up the tape. I was like,

1734
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 1: he's an opportunist. He just kind of like is always

1735
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 1: like looking under rocks for worms and then eventually he

1736
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 1: just tends to find one here and this one too,

1737
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: where Edwards is not transitioning through the position, He's like

1738
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: kind of hanging out there. So Vancinas just looks down

1739
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 1: and goes book. I'm like, what are you doing? What

1740
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 1: are you doing? What are you doing?

1741
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 2: There's nothing.

1742
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 3: One of the most questioning things so that you see

1743
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 3: a guy having success on the feet that maybe is

1744
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 3: surprising himself with it. Sometimes like you'll see this and

1745
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 3: like he's layding some bigger shots, but then he keeps

1746
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 3: resorting to like pushing on the cage and like and

1747
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:22,639
Speaker 3: you're like, what are you doing? Separate dude, you're doing fine.

1748
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 3: I've seen this, you too, man, Like we've seen this

1749
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 3: so many times. There's something just maddening about that, because

1750
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 3: you've got to understand in real time your successes, even

1751
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 3: if you didn't think you're going to have them on

1752
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:34,600
Speaker 3: some level, even if you didn't think you're going to

1753
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 3: find the success you're having. At some point you got

1754
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:38,720
Speaker 3: to pivot and be like, no, no, no, I'm good

1755
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 3: right here. I think that, uh, this is where we

1756
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 3: should stay. But I that was that was very bizarre

1757
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 3: for him to kind of default to the wrestling mindset

1758
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 3: when it clearly wasn't gonna work there.

1759
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 1: I don't say this to like dunk on a guy.

1760
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 1: I truly don't. But what I am going to say is,

1761
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 1: if you're in a fucking title fight and you're winning

1762
01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 1: on the feet and you know, and again it's not like, oh,

1763
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 1: you're winning, but he's scoring huge punches and you maybe

1764
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 1: want to mix it up. That's a little bit different,

1765
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 1: but like he's not always scoring huge punches, and you

1766
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 1: decide to take it down, and then as you're taking

1767
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 1: it down, you're kind of static in a position. Dude,

1768
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 1: you deserve to lose, straight up in high level MMA.

1769
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 1: If you're going to make those kinds of commitments, you

1770
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 1: deserve to lose. Yeah, And I don't. I don't. It

1771
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 1: doesn't bring me joy to like Dunkle Fabian Edwards. I'm

1772
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 1: just trying to say, like, you know what I mean,

1773
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 1: Like there's a certain kind of things you just can't

1774
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 1: get away with if you want to do special shit

1775
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 1: in mma, and he didn't do that.

1776
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 3: I mean Van sin is if it was if the

1777
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 3: whole thing was like uh in the Washington general sense

1778
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 3: of the Harlem Glowtrotters series, where it's like to kind

1779
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 3: of give him his moment in his home, you know,

1780
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 3: it's his home, like where he you know, where he

1781
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 3: lived for someone in Spain. Like he certainly did that

1782
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 3: because that was kind of a gift in a weird way.

1783
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 3: And like Van Senas is already riding this complete high

1784
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 3: from the Johnny l I talked to him before, like

1785
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 3: a month ago, before all this, and uh, it was

1786
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 3: like he was still as high on that fight as

1787
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 3: you could be. Right, Like he's talking about it like

1788
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 3: it's a movie and I'm like, yeah, man, I mean

1789
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 3: that's one of the crazy comebacks of the year and

1790
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 3: all that stuff. And to get this as his encore,

1791
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:08,680
Speaker 3: good good for him, you know what I mean. So

1792
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 3: you got to give him his flowers too on that level,

1793
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 3: you know.

1794
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 1: So funny van Steinas I didn't we didn't see this,

1795
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 1: but someone sent it to me. When he made Van

1796
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 1: Steinas was made a promo package for PFL where he's

1797
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 1: at a desk and he's writing a love letter to

1798
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,520
Speaker 1: the people of Spain and he's narrating it in Spanish

1799
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 1: and his Spanish is I wanted to see how good

1800
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 1: it was. It's it's native. It's really really good. It's

1801
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 1: uh and you know he's got the Spain Spanish accent too.

1802
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 1: But well, the reason why I was bringing this up

1803
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 1: is because obviously he's Dutch too, so he speaks English

1804
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 1: with a Dutch accent. Did you notice that the room?

1805
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 1: I think I could be wrong about this, but the

1806
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 1: reporter who asked Dana and the question that we played

1807
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 1: earlier and Data had to get the translation. He was

1808
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 1: getting translation of an English speaking Dutch guy. Oh my god.

1809
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 1: He's like, I know you're speaking my language, but you

1810
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 1: have a Dutch accent. Can we get a guy who's

1811
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 1: got a goober accent with the less of us?

1812
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 6: You know?

1813
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 1: Man? Anyway, Anyway, if you haven't seen that piece, I'll

1814
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 1: send it to you after the show. Chuck of the

1815
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 1: PFL the love letter I haven't seen, letting it. He's

1816
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: writing with like a quill tipped pen in kind of

1817
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 1: this orange e mood lighting at at like a big

1818
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 1: wooden desk, and then he's narrating as he writes it.

1819
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 1: He is fucking sick.

1820
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 3: I was then, and I mean that, you know what,

1821
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 3: good for them, like they I think this was the first,

1822
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 3: like they said, the first time in Madrid where it

1823
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 3: was like a major organization going there. And I mean, dude,

1824
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 3: there's always a sub tweet involved when you're like, hey,

1825
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 3: we're gonna go there. You guys have Illio Taporia right

1826
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 3: like you have this guy, but we're gonna get there first.

1827
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 2: I always kind of appreciate that, you.

1828
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 3: Know what I mean, And a PFL has done that

1829
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 3: even with France, you know, and and some of the others,

1830
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 3: like they've they've kind of been there first, and I

1831
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 3: can appreciate it. It was it looked like a fun environment,

1832
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 3: like a smaller room but a funner Well.

1833
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 1: Madrid is like maybe my favorite city of the whole world.

1834
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 1: They had let's talk about this. They had about six

1835
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 1: k in attendance. Now, it was not exactly a sell out.

1836
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 1: I don't think that's quite right. And it's not like

1837
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 1: they made a huge amount at the gate, but they had,

1838
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 1: you know, I would call a decent attendance, including but

1839
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 1: not limited to, a bunch of the players. For Real

1840
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 1: Madrid they had Vinnian attendance. Bourtois Fete Valverde, they had

1841
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of I think Rudiger was there as well.

1842
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 1: They had a bunch of them there, which was kind

1843
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 1: of cool. Their guy won. I'm not sure exactly what

1844
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 1: it means for PFL, Chuck, but do you have any

1845
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: feeling like like PFL can't be upset about it? It

1846
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 1: seemed pretty good.

1847
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 3: I thought it was pretty good. And also the other

1848
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 3: van Senis won right like he got a knock out.

1849
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 3: I believe he was an underdog too, so in a

1850
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 3: crazy sense, I mean they they kind of went the

1851
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 3: way that you'd want it in the sense like we're

1852
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 3: talking about the UFC and the London Fighters. For the

1853
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 3: most part, except for Curtis Campbell, like most of those

1854
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 3: guys were able to come through for their home thing.

1855
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 2: I mean that always translates very nicely.

1856
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 3: Right, like when you have a homecoming, the guys who

1857
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 3: were supposed that you want to win kind of win

1858
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 3: and it sets up nicely too. I didn't want to

1859
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 3: have that situation where you don't get the Van Senis

1860
01:22:57,040 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 3: Eblin rematches some point because I mean, that's a big

1861
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:01,879
Speaker 3: fight for them, right.

1862
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 1: Right right, Well now it brings us to Johnny Evelin,

1863
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:08,839
Speaker 1: who fights this coming weekend right at the PFL Pittsburgh.

1864
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,679
Speaker 1: He put this up on ig after Van Steinas won.

1865
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, let's run this back after I get a

1866
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 1: W next weekend. I got to tell you now, we'll

1867
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 1: talk about this in the next topic. But if Evelyn

1868
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: gets a W, yeah, I like that fight. I'm kind

1869
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: of pumped for that rematch, to be honest with you.

1870
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I love when a dude like Vancinas he

1871
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 3: was you know, it's just like boom, he hit Like

1872
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 3: he's like he hit a jackpot and his last few

1873
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 3: dollars in that fight with Eblyin, and all of a sudden,

1874
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 3: he's like on house money now, like he's won a

1875
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 3: lot of money.

1876
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, I'm rolling.

1877
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 3: Those guys sometimes can deliver because they get a big

1878
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 3: belief in themselves, and I think he's got that. And

1879
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously Johnny Evlin being the competitor he is, dude,

1880
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 3: like if he gets by Brian battle, like obviously you

1881
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 3: know that he's going to go into that fight like

1882
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 3: with some you know, pison vinegar type thing. He's going

1883
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 3: to go in there to be to beat him. That

1884
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 3: should be fun very quickly.

1885
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 1: Aj McKee got a fun but pretty solid win over

1886
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: Adam Borich, so we're talking about the right next move

1887
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 1: for him. He's thirty years old. I got to tell you,

1888
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what appetite PFL has for McKee to

1889
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 1: fight Usbin Nomega Madoff again, but I'd be cool with that. Yeah,

1890
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 1: I don't know about your opinion.

1891
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 2: What I mean, who else? Who else did they put

1892
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 2: him with?

1893
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 3: Let me pull up the ranks because I'm not even

1894
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 3: sure who's available. That's what That's always the thing with

1895
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 3: the BFO. It's not like they have their cup of

1896
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 3: running over, you know.

1897
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So you've got Alfie Davis who just got smoked

1898
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 1: Gatzi Rabodanov. I'm not sure. I think he lost recently.

1899
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 1: Archie Colgan is an interesting name. Nobody knows him, but

1900
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 1: he's undefeated. Paul Hughes sitting at for Alexander. Oh, this

1901
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 1: is at forty five, I believe so, No, I wouldn't

1902
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,679
Speaker 1: even be relevant. Why was I saying usban Never mind?

1903
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 1: I think this is at forty five, you got Alexandershall

1904
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 1: believe JJ Wilson Natan should now over at forty five?

1905
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 1: Where do they have a j McKee? They got him

1906
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 1: sitting at two? They got Timour Kizriev. I guess you

1907
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 1: could make that Jesus Pinato, but I don't know if

1908
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 1: it's much interested in that Bortz was sitting at four.

1909
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 1: It looks like, honestly it's a title shot for against

1910
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 1: Kizriev and then that's it.

1911
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's kind of you know, that's

1912
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 3: kind of where they're at with and.

1913
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 1: That title was vacant by the way, because we able

1914
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 1: to be the number one, but there's nobody else.

1915
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 3: You know, Ajbcky after all these years, and like you know,

1916
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 3: he's still it's crazy that he's thirty years old, by

1917
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 3: the way, because you know, when we were covering his

1918
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 3: father now that long ago and now his son is

1919
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 3: thirty years old.

1920
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 1: That's very strange, I said, I said usmann Rika Mateo.

1921
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 1: It was Paul Hughes, which was the guy he had

1922
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 1: lost to please forgive right Also kind of so I

1923
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: did wrong myself in real time. Also kind of funny

1924
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 1: we covered his dad's career. Yeah, for guys who did

1925
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 1: not cover his dad's career. He was famous for being

1926
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:49,640
Speaker 1: like the most boring guy on any card he was

1927
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 1: ever on.

1928
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 2: That's actually true.

1929
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 1: That's true. If you saw him on the card, you'd

1930
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 1: be like, oh, here we go. You know what I mean,

1931
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 1: here we go.

1932
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:58,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.

1933
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 1: That is it for topic number four, So let's add

1934
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 1: on topic number five. We kind of alluded to the

1935
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 1: fact that Johnny Evelin is fighting Brian Battle this week

1936
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 1: and you are sorry, I should say PFL Pittsburgh. By

1937
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 1: the way, PFL staff they have to go from Madrid

1938
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh. Holy shit. I noticed that. Yes, if half

1939
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 1: of them don't put a gun in their mouth, I'll

1940
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 1: be surprised.

1941
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:21,639
Speaker 2: Least favorite city, your favorite city is your least favorites.

1942
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 1: I actually don't hate Pittsburgh, but it's like it's better

1943
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 1: than people advertise. I mean it is, it certainly is,

1944
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 1: but like going from fucking Madrid to Pittsburgh, like, holy shit.

1945
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 3: I remember Dan Hardy was basically like, yeah, we're gonna

1946
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 3: be in Pittsburgh next week. I'm like, Wow, what a

1947
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 3: juxtaposition that is.

1948
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't even know. I couldn't even you know. Okay, anyway,

1949
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 1: we'll come back to that, but let's actually talk about

1950
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 1: this because we actually have this weekend Chuck Dueling middleweight

1951
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 1: main events UFC Seattle will feature Izzy and you can

1952
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 1: see the poster here taking on Joe Pifer. We've kind

1953
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 1: of talked about some of the dimensions of this fire, which,

1954
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 1: by the way, I like this fin I think it's

1955
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 1: an interesting fight. And then on the PFL side, by

1956
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 1: the way, you've got Dalton Ross to take it on

1957
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:05,679
Speaker 1: Impakasanga and I and the comain. But the main event

1958
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 1: is Johnny Eblin taking it on Brian Battle. This of

1959
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 1: course will be Brian Battle's PFL debut. He did have

1960
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,720
Speaker 1: that one fight I believe in dirty boxing, but here

1961
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 1: he is back in high level MMA. So the question

1962
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 1: is not which one is more relevant for the top

1963
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:21,560
Speaker 1: end of MMA. It's obviously going to be Easy and

1964
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 1: Joe Pifer, right, especially if Joe wins, it kind of

1965
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:26,679
Speaker 1: really upsets the apple card for a guy who's ranked

1966
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 1: I think four or five in that UFC middleweight division.

1967
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 1: That's not my question, Okay, My question is not that.

1968
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 1: My question is on pure excitement terms, which has the

1969
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 1: biggest chance to deliver it. And let me set this up.

1970
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 1: If I made Chuck all right, Joe Pifer is going

1971
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 1: to be hunting for a big knockout. But we all

1972
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 1: know Izzy has a way of stifling that if he potentially,

1973
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 1: if he wants to. Now he couldn't do it against Imvov,

1974
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 1: But you know, can Iszy play the touch and go game,

1975
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 1: the fainting game if he wants to. Yes? Of course.

1976
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 1: On the other end, Brian Battle is pretty reliable for action,

1977
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 1: but Johnny Eblin might wrestle him into oblivion or he

1978
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 1: might not. So there's these questions of the kind of

1979
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 1: the kind of guys who are older, more established, having

1980
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 1: ways to smother a surgeon contender, which one is going

1981
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 1: to deliver more well.

1982
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,640
Speaker 3: As much as I love the Brian Brian Battle basically,

1983
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 3: you know, flying into flight in his new promotion and

1984
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:27,679
Speaker 3: getting a title shot, that Johnny Eblin wrestling factor ways

1985
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:29,679
Speaker 3: in there, because you could see a scenario where that

1986
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 3: that could turn into a patterned fight where it's like

1987
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:34,599
Speaker 3: rinse and repeat for the whole time. Now I'm hoping

1988
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 3: that doesn't happen. I'm thinking it could have like some Firewars,

1989
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 3: But I feel like the other fight, Like, as you're

1990
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 3: mentioning with, is he coming back from what is it,

1991
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:43,600
Speaker 3: three losses in a row, he's had a he's and

1992
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 3: obviously like he's okay, So he's like, I mean, he's

1993
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:49,759
Speaker 3: obviously like down the stretch here. This is a guy

1994
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 3: who we held at the very highest level of the sport,

1995
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 3: and he's getting a guy. I think this is strategic

1996
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 3: in the sense, like you mentioned, Joe Pifer is a

1997
01:28:58,400 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 3: kind of a headhunter.

1998
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 2: He was going to be looking for that knockout. He'll

1999
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 2: be coming forward.

2000
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 3: I do think that Izzy's like most majestic performances, and

2001
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 3: you've probably looked at the tape a lot with him

2002
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 3: is when he's able to kind of react to a

2003
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 3: lot of stuff, and I feel like he's going to

2004
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 3: have those chances, and we know when he does that,

2005
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 3: big things happen, or at least that it has happened for him.

2006
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 3: So if he's going to get the opportunity to put

2007
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:21,799
Speaker 3: away Joe Piperen kind of right some of the wrongs,

2008
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 3: I think he's going to take it. So to me,

2009
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 3: there's there's just a that that explosive component, like when

2010
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 3: they come together, maybe they play into each other's strengths

2011
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 3: a little bit is what's going to make that fun?

2012
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:34,640
Speaker 1: Can you believe that the last win that is he

2013
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 1: had it was not only in April of twenty twenty three,

2014
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 1: so almost three years, oh my god. But then it

2015
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 1: was the Poeton comeback win.

2016
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 2: Oh when he kind of just bit down and like

2017
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 2: counted like boom and on the fence.

2018
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 1: Like that super back up against the wall triumphant moment.

2019
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 1: You know that, like like he was on a huge high.

2020
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 1: He's not one sense then.

2021
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 3: Man, if I had, like if I was on a

2022
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 3: Long Island's trivia show and this had been brought up,

2023
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 3: I'd be like at least one victory since then.

2024
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 2: That feels like so long ago. And that was so

2025
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:04,360
Speaker 2: long ago.

2026
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:07,759
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, that's great, Long Island. Which fight has the

2027
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:10,640
Speaker 1: two dueling main events for middleweight this weekend? Which one

2028
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 1: has the higher possibility of action?

2029
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just so intrigued by the Eazy Piper

2030
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 4: matchup that I can't choose Evelin Battle.

2031
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:21,799
Speaker 1: I do like that fight better.

2032
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but these are also going directly.

2033
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:26,719
Speaker 4: I don't know what time the main card starts for PFL,

2034
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 4: but if I'm not mistaken, these are going directly head

2035
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:29,400
Speaker 4: to head, like.

2036
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:31,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, PFL, make it catch.

2037
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:34,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm probably not even gonna catch Eblin battle unless

2038
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:36,879
Speaker 4: it happens to go after they get two screens.

2039
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 2: My friend, Well, yeah, Chuck, I mean I will catch it,

2040
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I'm just saying it's so

2041
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 2: stupid on their end.

2042
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 4: Stick to Fridays or something, because I would definitely tune

2043
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:45,639
Speaker 4: in if it was on Friday.

2044
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:49,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, ten pm start on ESPN two. I did not

2045
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 1: realize that for the PFL card and for the upcoming

2046
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: UFC card, the Fight Night card that has a.

2047
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 2: Eight pm I think main card.

2048
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:01,920
Speaker 1: Four the oh you know what, hero, let me tell

2049
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 1: you because I want to get this right. Actually, so

2050
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:05,719
Speaker 1: give me just one second. If you go to ufc

2051
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:09,760
Speaker 1: dot com slash schedule, they'll tell you they are so

2052
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 1: if the fight card for that one is Jesus Christ

2053
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 1: eight pm start, so they won't necessarily overlap by the

2054
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 1: main event anyway, there should be enough of a difference.

2055
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I don't love middleweight main events

2056
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:28,680
Speaker 1: as a rule, but the UFC one I think is

2057
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:32,599
Speaker 1: actually very interesting and not for nothing. For PFL that's

2058
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 1: a pretty decent scrap too.

2059
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 3: I kind of like that one, the Brian Battle like

2060
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 3: just picking him up, because dude, did you tell me

2061
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 3: that the.

2062
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 2: Guy that like, I feel like a star power like tripled.

2063
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:45,639
Speaker 3: After he beat Kevin Jussey in France and he had

2064
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 3: that big mic moment he sounded.

2065
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 2: Like a pearl wrestler and he's like, let me hear it, you.

2066
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 3: Know, and he's like and then obviously he's missed weight

2067
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:53,400
Speaker 3: and he's had all these things, but it didn't really

2068
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 3: hurt his brand in sense of, like, you know, he

2069
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:57,680
Speaker 3: goes over to dirty boxing. I feel like there was

2070
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:00,640
Speaker 3: this special eye on him, like they did a good

2071
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 3: job of sort of showing you what happened there and

2072
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 3: he ends up here. I'm intrigued by this. I just

2073
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:08,720
Speaker 3: I feel like that's kind of the component. Like if

2074
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 3: it was just Johnny Eblin against somebody else on the roster,

2075
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:13,639
Speaker 3: for instance, it probably feel like it's a pfil event.

2076
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:15,800
Speaker 3: This actually makes it feel very different to me, is

2077
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:18,479
Speaker 3: having Brian Battle on that. I think the dude has

2078
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 3: some talent. I'm like, so I feel like that this

2079
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 3: is a really fun fight.

2080
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 1: Well that's just it. It's like, first of all, the

2081
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:25,800
Speaker 1: fans have definitely responded to him. I started getting questions

2082
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:27,799
Speaker 1: about him in my live chat, and usually the questions

2083
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 1: are only about like, you know, Islam or ilia or

2084
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:34,599
Speaker 1: something like that. Right, So, like when a guy who's

2085
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:36,639
Speaker 1: like getting brought up, I was actually kind of surprised

2086
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 1: by it, And to be honest with you, I certainly

2087
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 1: grant that he injects some life into this fight, in

2088
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:44,719
Speaker 1: this promotion. It's a great signing both because he needed

2089
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 1: to rehab his image a little bit based on the

2090
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:49,000
Speaker 1: weight miss, and also PFL could use a guy like that,

2091
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:51,560
Speaker 1: so it's a great pairing. But like this is a

2092
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 1: great opportunity for him too, because it's like, I'm not

2093
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 1: totally convinced he's like a super good middleweight, you know, right, right,

2094
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 1: but you beat Johnny Eblin and I'll believe that you're

2095
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:03,000
Speaker 1: a super good middle point or certainly deserving of top

2096
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:03,599
Speaker 1: ten respect.

2097
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:05,680
Speaker 3: They both both those fights we're talking about have that

2098
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 3: kind of component, right, because I mean, Joe Piper's proved

2099
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:09,639
Speaker 3: that he can go in there and win. But I mean,

2100
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 3: now you're fighting a guy who I still feels, yeah,

2101
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 3: I still feel like his mystique is still in place

2102
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:17,880
Speaker 3: to a certain extent, right, Like he's still that guy,

2103
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 3: this would be a big moment for him, and if

2104
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 3: it doesn't happen, I feel like Izziada Sanyo then enters

2105
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 3: the conversation in this big way again, even if it's

2106
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 3: kind of late in his career. I mean those types.

2107
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 3: I love those types of crossroads, you know, where it's

2108
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 3: like guy coming up, guys supposedly going down, but it

2109
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 3: could divert and go the other way, like you got

2110
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:35,760
Speaker 3: them in both fights there.

2111
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 1: I gotta say, there's not many times you could book

2112
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 1: two dueling non title middleweight main events and I'd be like,

2113
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:46,599
Speaker 1: these are great.

2114
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 2: It's a great point, dude.

2115
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:53,400
Speaker 1: This one kind of works out. It kind of works out. Yeah,

2116
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:55,559
Speaker 1: all right, that's it for our top five. We'll, of

2117
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:57,799
Speaker 1: course have coverage of both of these events. We'll preview

2118
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 1: them on Friday's MK. But for right now, let's go

2119
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 1: to where you guys get to ask us questions. It's

2120
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 1: time for dms from docs that sound I'll just never

2121
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 1: get used to that ever. All right. Question one from

2122
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:20,240
Speaker 1: our friend Emery Nick six, why has Jeremy Stevens been

2123
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 1: able to do one off fights in the UFC? Fought

2124
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 1: Mason Jos in UFC, Then Mike Perry and BKFC now

2125
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 1: back to fighting King Green. I think it's because they

2126
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 1: just like him. Chuck, I think so too.

2127
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:33,640
Speaker 3: I always think back to like Jeremy Stevens was the

2128
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 3: guy who do you remember like the Minnesota where he

2129
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:38,639
Speaker 3: was like he gets arrested in Dana White spinning, He's

2130
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 3: gonna fight, He's gonna fight and they're trying to like

2131
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,640
Speaker 3: bail him out before this fight. Do you remember when

2132
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 3: all this went down like ten years ago? Yes, so,

2133
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 3: I mean it goes back that far. I feel like

2134
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 3: they've always had a big respect and love for Jeremy

2135
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:54,479
Speaker 3: Stevens because he's a dude who doesn't say no. He

2136
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 3: goes in there any brawls, win or lose, and they

2137
01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:00,840
Speaker 3: have special There are guys like that they hold a

2138
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 3: special place for. So if there was some exception to it,

2139
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:05,800
Speaker 3: and I don't know his his contractual setup, but yes,

2140
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 3: he would be one of those guys.

2141
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 1: Question number two from OG ninety one pixel how good

2142
01:35:13,479 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 1: is Okay? I can never say his name right. Imon

2143
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 1: Ghazaliev from One Championship Mui time MOUTI spelled wrong. Jesus,

2144
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:24,040
Speaker 1: the kid is a monster up Long Island. Do we

2145
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 1: have any assets to show this guy at all. No, Okay,

2146
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 1: have you seen him, Chuck, I have not, but I

2147
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:32,000
Speaker 1: forget I forget his first name. So if you guys

2148
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:32,559
Speaker 1: haven't seen.

2149
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:34,280
Speaker 2: It, there has heard people talking about him though.

2150
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:36,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Joe Rogan wants to blow him, I think,

2151
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 1: but that's okay. If you're gonna blow somebody, this is

2152
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 1: a good gotta blow. I suppose he is a Dagistani

2153
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 1: guy who does the like the four ounce Muay Thai

2154
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 1: stuff in one championship and he is in there. He

2155
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:55,559
Speaker 1: just beatn Ango. He's blowing people's brains out, and he

2156
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 1: looks the part. He's wiry, but you know you can

2157
01:35:57,479 --> 01:36:02,560
Speaker 1: still tell well muscled, you know, throws heavy leather, good combinations.

2158
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 1: He's technical, he's slick. He's a devastating finisher. Dude, he

2159
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 1: is fucking awesome and awesome. You know, we associate the

2160
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:15,679
Speaker 1: Dokasadi guys with being more wrestlers, and then we'll say, oh, yeah,

2161
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:17,800
Speaker 1: some of them can strike. Well, well, here we found

2162
01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 1: a guy who can strike his ass off.

2163
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:22,880
Speaker 2: I'm compelled, man, I can't wait to see this.

2164
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you haven't seen him yet, you should make

2165
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 1: an effort. He's he is, is.

2166
01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 2: He gonna be? He's he fighting MMA?

2167
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:34,919
Speaker 1: Or is it just so where's he at right now?

2168
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:38,639
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I have looked at his record more closely,

2169
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 1: maybe he's got some fights or something. But you know,

2170
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 1: it's it's hard because you're like, oh, how excited should

2171
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:45,880
Speaker 1: I be about a kickboxing product? There's something a little

2172
01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:50,160
Speaker 1: different about him, you know, you know, just to see

2173
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:52,080
Speaker 1: a dokasady guy with the amish beard go in there

2174
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 1: and then just I didn't.

2175
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:55,760
Speaker 3: Think that was allowed actually, and like you know, Dakastan

2176
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 3: what being muay Thai, Like, I didn't think that, Like

2177
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:02,599
Speaker 3: you could you had to if you didn't wrestle, you.

2178
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 2: Know, like and Sitt and Saun Apple. Well, you know

2179
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 2: what I bet.

2180
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 1: I bet on some level he can wrestle a little bit,

2181
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:09,920
Speaker 1: whether he's done it any That's what I was asking.

2182
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:11,800
Speaker 3: If he's doing MMA, that would be Now It's like

2183
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:13,840
Speaker 3: that becomes the compelling thing too, like does he have

2184
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 3: a ground game?

2185
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 1: Uh? Lucy goes Ai one hold on? So it's asadula

2186
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 1: in Mongozaliev. I'm sure I'm saying that the worst way imaginable.

2187
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 1: Twenty two years old out of Dakistan, dude, he is

2188
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 1: beating the fuck out of people. It's insane what he's been,

2189
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 1: what he's been showing up and then doing so. His

2190
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:37,280
Speaker 1: record on from what I'm seeing here, twelve wins, he's

2191
01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:40,760
Speaker 1: completely undefeated. Eight of them KOs or t KOs, and

2192
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 1: the ones that are decisions are mostly in his early career.

2193
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 1: He hasn't gone to a decision. Well, he had a

2194
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaker 1: bunch and you'll have to do tournaments, you know. Yeah,

2195
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:51,760
Speaker 1: but his last let's see, one, two, three, four, five

2196
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:55,200
Speaker 1: have all been finishes. Yeah, he's would you would you

2197
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:56,800
Speaker 1: favor him against a guy like that in a wing

2198
01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 1: to see like somebody like that? Or I do not

2199
01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 1: understand why the Internet gets behind I understand why the

2200
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:07,759
Speaker 1: Internet gets behind weirdos. What I don't understand is getting

2201
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:11,040
Speaker 1: behind weirdos who obviously aren't good at fighting. It's like

2202
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 1: the most insane thing. So people are like, oh, Butterbean

2203
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 1: wasn't good. Butterbean was good at a certain level, you

2204
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 1: know exactly, and he had dynamite knockout power. Yeah, all right,

2205
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:28,760
Speaker 1: next from DG whatever the fuck? All right? Why is

2206
01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:31,559
Speaker 1: the women's bantamway division allowed to come to a complete

2207
01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 1: stop while Kayla Harrison heals from an injury. John Jones

2208
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 1: was vilified for holding the division for a full year

2209
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:41,160
Speaker 1: when he was injured. Chuck, I have an answer, but

2210
01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 1: I'd like to hear yours.

2211
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 3: Well, I would just say that on hole that women's

2212
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 3: because I do the I do the pound for pound

2213
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 3: rankings that uncrowned and so like you'll you update them

2214
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 3: every month and there will be nine women on there

2215
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 3: that have no news of anything coming up or anything.

2216
01:38:56,479 --> 01:39:00,280
Speaker 3: They just they hold them idly out for longeriod of

2217
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 3: time compared to the men.

2218
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:03,519
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's just the way it is. Man,

2219
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:04,679
Speaker 2: It's a very strange thing.

2220
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:08,400
Speaker 3: But I don't know, like I don't know what you

2221
01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 3: would do, like if you were to expound on that, like, well,

2222
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 3: I don't know what the suggestion would be, like in

2223
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 3: terms of you saying, like have another title fight or

2224
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:18,679
Speaker 3: something in between, like or have an interim. I don't

2225
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:20,920
Speaker 3: know what the question is. And that's keep the division

2226
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 3: keeping going. I mean, well, let's hear your let's hear

2227
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:26,559
Speaker 3: your explain what do you think is going on here?

2228
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:29,840
Speaker 1: In the words of Habib Nema, goat made of who cares? Brother,

2229
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:35,040
Speaker 1: who cares? In all seriousness in the economy of words

2230
01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 1: right there in the principle of it. The question is

2231
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:42,640
Speaker 1: is correct, like this is unfair? And my view is

2232
01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:44,719
Speaker 1: if the UFC is not going to keep these people moving,

2233
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:47,160
Speaker 1: they should let them take fights elsewhere. You know, I

2234
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:50,680
Speaker 1: do believe that. On the other hand, I just think

2235
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:52,760
Speaker 1: you have to look at this realistically and say there

2236
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 1: is a certain level of prestige and physical or I should

2237
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 1: say there's a level of prestige and like representation about

2238
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:02,479
Speaker 1: what the heavyweight to be means, right, and if you

2239
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:07,120
Speaker 1: begin to fuck with that, it has a bigger significance

2240
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:10,640
Speaker 1: than for a division that I'm not even sure should exist.

2241
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, nobody noticed.

2242
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 3: That person noticed, but like, not too many fans really

2243
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:18,120
Speaker 3: notice when there's an idle this going on with the

2244
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:22,680
Speaker 3: women's bantamweight versus heavyweight, which is traditionally people pay attention to.

2245
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:28,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Next from I read Rayton nine to

2246
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:31,400
Speaker 1: one six. Have you seen or heard the rumors of

2247
01:40:31,439 --> 01:40:36,240
Speaker 1: Gable Steve's he put Stevenson it's Steveson versus JDS even

2248
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:39,880
Speaker 1: Mohammed Makayah versus aj McKee for the Netflix show in May. No,

2249
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:42,759
Speaker 1: but I did hear I had heard rumors of Gable

2250
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:45,519
Speaker 1: Steveson versus JDS. I don't know if they're legit or not.

2251
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:48,120
Speaker 1: I honestly don't know. I'm a consumer in that way.

2252
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 1: What I will say is it seems interesting that you

2253
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:53,600
Speaker 1: had Mohammed and Makaya kind of teasing a fight that

2254
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 1: Jake Paul was signing at the same time that One

2255
01:40:57,400 --> 01:41:01,600
Speaker 1: just released Adriano Martinz, their former CHAMPI oh, that is

2256
01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 1: a dude. Let me just say it all right, Mohammed

2257
01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 1: ma Kaya versus Audrey Ono Martinz is a legit fight.

2258
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:10,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, legit wouldn't that Like, I mean that almost goes

2259
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:13,280
Speaker 3: against the motif of this MVP because it's that good, right,

2260
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:15,320
Speaker 3: Like you'd almost say, oh, and now you got a

2261
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:17,920
Speaker 3: very vital feeling fight on that card.

2262
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:19,719
Speaker 2: Maybe that would be the right move, is to do.

2263
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 1: Something like that.

2264
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 3: I am anxious to find out what's going on with

2265
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 3: makayav on that fight well Kaye to me, like.

2266
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:28,439
Speaker 1: When he was released, you know, I was like, he

2267
01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:30,439
Speaker 1: needs to be released because he can beat people with

2268
01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:32,840
Speaker 1: his grappling, but he can't do anything else. He needs

2269
01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:35,640
Speaker 1: some seasoning. But after watching what he's been up to,

2270
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:37,439
Speaker 1: I would like to see the UFC bring him back.

2271
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 1: I think now he's a little bit more ready to

2272
01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:42,759
Speaker 1: do something with that. It could make flyweight even hotter

2273
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:45,559
Speaker 1: than it already is. Yeah, I hope they find a

2274
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 1: way to do that.

2275
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:50,519
Speaker 3: I mean they should, right, Like that division is better

2276
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 3: than it has been in a while, right because we

2277
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:53,680
Speaker 3: were doing our division and like you look at it

2278
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 3: and you're like, Wow, there's a bunch of guys up

2279
01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 3: at the top. Now imagine plugging him back into the mix.

2280
01:41:57,479 --> 01:41:58,280
Speaker 3: It'd be a lot of fun.

2281
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 1: Man. I think there's one more from flannels and JITs.

2282
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:05,160
Speaker 1: Did you catch any of the NCUBAA wrestling Championships this year?

2283
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 1: I did thoughts on the level of these younger athletes,

2284
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 1: especially guys like Jax Forrest coming in and winning the

2285
01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:13,880
Speaker 1: NCAA titles as a true freshman. Dude, check this shit out, Chuck,

2286
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:17,880
Speaker 1: check the shit out. There was a guy, a Hispanic kid,

2287
01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 1: he wrestled for Oklahoma State. I forget his name, but

2288
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:22,680
Speaker 1: he wrestled early in the championship evening. So you know,

2289
01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:25,719
Speaker 1: they do the finals for all the weight classes on Saturday.

2290
01:42:27,479 --> 01:42:31,759
Speaker 1: A Hispanic kid he wins it. Okay, so he becomes

2291
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:35,080
Speaker 1: in that moment for Oklahoma State, but for any college.

2292
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:40,479
Speaker 1: The first wrestler in seventy nine years to win the

2293
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:44,240
Speaker 1: NC Doublea's as a true freshman. Wow, so not a

2294
01:42:44,280 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 1: red shirt but a true one. Then in the main

2295
01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 1: event that night, I think it was either a one

2296
01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 1: twenty five or one thirty three. I forget the exact

2297
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:55,639
Speaker 1: weight class. Also for Oklahoma State is a kid named

2298
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:58,560
Speaker 1: Jax Forrest who goes which is, by the way, just

2299
01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:03,080
Speaker 1: the widest fucking name. If he wasn't gonna be a wrestler,

2300
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:05,280
Speaker 1: he was gonna go win American Ninja Warrior, you know,

2301
01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:06,400
Speaker 1: a great.

2302
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:08,800
Speaker 2: Great grandson of Nathan Bedford Forest starring.

2303
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:12,599
Speaker 1: So Jacks Forrest goes in there and becomes so remember

2304
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:16,080
Speaker 1: seventy nine years had to elapse before someone could do it.

2305
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:18,519
Speaker 1: And then later on that night, one of his teammates

2306
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:20,920
Speaker 1: in a different weight class does the exact same thing,

2307
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:23,879
Speaker 1: and I'll up the ante. Wow. That kid Jack's Forest

2308
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:28,559
Speaker 1: was in high school earlier this year. He left high

2309
01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:32,920
Speaker 1: school early, somehow got eligibility to go and wrestle for

2310
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State and then ran the fucking table on them

2311
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:39,479
Speaker 1: and won a national title as a true freshman. Dude,

2312
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:40,720
Speaker 1: what the fuck.

2313
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 3: These are Oklahoma State. Yeah, what a bad time for

2314
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:46,880
Speaker 3: DC to step aside. I mean, this is like whoa

2315
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:52,000
Speaker 3: you think you'd want to be on that one? That's crazy, man, But.

2316
01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 1: Can you believe that, Like it's something doesn't happen for

2317
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 1: seventy nine years and then it happens twice in the

2318
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:56,960
Speaker 1: same night, you know.

2319
01:43:56,960 --> 01:43:58,519
Speaker 3: As wild. I wish I could have, like I should

2320
01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:00,400
Speaker 3: have paid more attention to it. Man, with all everything

2321
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:02,680
Speaker 3: going on, it always falls by the way side, and

2322
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:04,599
Speaker 3: then you'll see it like you'll see it like people

2323
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:05,840
Speaker 3: talking about it on social medima.

2324
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:07,880
Speaker 2: Ah, you know, because you just kind of get caught

2325
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:08,719
Speaker 2: up in the other stuff.

2326
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:11,080
Speaker 1: Also, the interesting part was Jack's Forrest wrestled. I forget

2327
01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:13,040
Speaker 1: the other kid's name, but the kidd he wrestled in

2328
01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:16,679
Speaker 1: the main event was a kid out of Ohio State.

2329
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:19,840
Speaker 1: This kid out of Ohio State had not given up

2330
01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:23,519
Speaker 1: a takedown all year. Yeah, what do you think Jacks

2331
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 1: Forrest did? Takes him down. Took him fucking down. Also,

2332
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:29,760
Speaker 1: the last part I'll say about this is, you know,

2333
01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:32,920
Speaker 1: the the dominant team more generally is Penn State. Cale

2334
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 1: Sanderson is obviously their coach. However, the Oklahoma State coach

2335
01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 1: is David Taylor, who was kind of big when we

2336
01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:41,720
Speaker 1: were at MMA fighting together, who went on to win

2337
01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:45,679
Speaker 1: an Olympic gold and you know, NCAA national title, and

2338
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:50,519
Speaker 1: he's now the head coach at Oklahoma State, so there's

2339
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:54,880
Speaker 1: a there's a budding rivalry there. But Penn State has

2340
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:58,400
Speaker 1: won the team title like the best wrestling team in

2341
01:44:58,439 --> 01:45:04,560
Speaker 1: the country thirteen of the last fifteen years. That's incredible.

2342
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:07,800
Speaker 1: That's fucking insane. That's insane.

2343
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:10,800
Speaker 3: That's kind of I mean, unless you're talking like women's volleyballer.

2344
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:13,600
Speaker 3: You know, it's gotta be something where like all the

2345
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:17,240
Speaker 3: concentration is in one room, like one university. That's so

2346
01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:19,600
Speaker 3: hard to do anymore, you know what I mean, Like

2347
01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:21,719
Speaker 3: to just have that kind of like dynasty that runs

2348
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:22,160
Speaker 3: that long.

2349
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:23,080
Speaker 2: It almost does.

2350
01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I would guess that it almost happens, and

2351
01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:27,040
Speaker 3: it doesn't happen in any other sport really.

2352
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:29,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, your only real threat is a guy

2353
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:31,760
Speaker 1: who used to be part of your dynasty, who's not

2354
01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:33,320
Speaker 1: an offshoot of it, you know what I mean. Like,

2355
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 1: it's not like it came from an alternate system exactly.

2356
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:38,360
Speaker 1: All right, we'll do fans ubs in just a minute,

2357
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:42,599
Speaker 1: But let's talk about our friends at Quervo. We, of course,

2358
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:45,360
Speaker 1: are gonna be back in studio April eighth to do

2359
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:47,479
Speaker 1: a pregame preview around UFC three twenty seven. I just

2360
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:50,960
Speaker 1: want to remind everyone, from face Off to Final Decision,

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01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 1: fight night delivers the adrenaline and Quervo the energy to

2362
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:57,439
Speaker 1: match it. Whether you're hosting your crew at home or

2363
01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:00,639
Speaker 1: catching the action at the bar, Cuervo brings the vibes

2364
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:05,240
Speaker 1: that turn every round into a celebration. From margaritas to palomas,

2365
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:08,400
Speaker 1: every main event simply tastes better with the world's most

2366
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:11,679
Speaker 1: iconic tequila. No matter who walks out with the belt

2367
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:16,560
Speaker 1: with Quervo in hand, you're already celebrating like an undisputed

2368
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 1: champion for every round. Keep it fun, keep it Quervo,

2369
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:21,280
Speaker 1: and keep it locked with us. April eighth, we'll be

2370
01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:24,679
Speaker 1: back in studio thanks to our friends at Quervo. We'll

2371
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:27,640
Speaker 1: do a pregame preview. We'll enjoy some there, have some

2372
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 1: good chats about the fights, and hopefully you guys can

2373
01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:32,160
Speaker 1: enjoy us and have a good time with us. Okay,

2374
01:46:32,360 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 1: big thanks to our friends at Quervo. All right, with

2375
01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:38,719
Speaker 1: that out of the way. Let's now go to fan SUPs.

2376
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:39,720
Speaker 1: Let's do it right.

2377
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 2: You've got Mayo fusers.

2378
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:47,720
Speaker 1: Now, Chuck, I'll tell you that the viewers here and

2379
01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:49,600
Speaker 1: the fans of MK, they like you a lot, so

2380
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 1: they don't meme you very much. But I want to

2381
01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:55,519
Speaker 1: remind everyone he's up for grabs. You could insult Chuck,

2382
01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:58,439
Speaker 1: just like you could insult me. And if you do,

2383
01:46:58,479 --> 01:46:59,840
Speaker 1: if you're good at it, whether it's be or it's

2384
01:46:59,880 --> 01:47:02,320
Speaker 1: him or whoever it ends up being, if you're the

2385
01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:04,360
Speaker 1: best one this month, we're gonna send you a free

2386
01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:10,240
Speaker 1: signed poster. So email the show with your fans ups,

2387
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 1: Morning Combat at gmail dot com. That's gonna be the

2388
01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:15,599
Speaker 1: place to send them all to reach the show more generally,

2389
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 1: but for sure for fans ups. All right, what's the

2390
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:19,920
Speaker 1: first one we got? Let's see let me read it.

2391
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:25,240
Speaker 1: Here to a RJ sent a meme. It says Long

2392
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:27,200
Speaker 1: Island Luke's girlfriend when she finds out there are no

2393
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:34,720
Speaker 1: fights this week, Brian Campbell, Long Island, did you see

2394
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:36,439
Speaker 1: your girlfriend this weekend? Yeah?

2395
01:47:36,520 --> 01:47:37,880
Speaker 2: It was my birthday this weekend.

2396
01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 1: So what did you do for it?

2397
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:42,639
Speaker 4: We went and got drunk, you know, just a bunch

2398
01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:44,600
Speaker 4: of drinking and stuff, and now I'm sick, you know,

2399
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:46,519
Speaker 4: just you know, the fruits of my labor.

2400
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:48,759
Speaker 2: But it was a good weekend, good weekend.

2401
01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:50,920
Speaker 1: So has the snow melted in Long Island?

2402
01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:53,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's been gone for like a week or

2403
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 2: two now. We've been good. I still have like a

2404
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:56,240
Speaker 2: little pile here.

2405
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:56,400
Speaker 5: Man.

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01:47:56,439 --> 01:47:58,559
Speaker 2: It's crazy. Yeah, because it was such a big trip.

2407
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:01,799
Speaker 3: It was like a ten like a ten foot mountain

2408
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 3: where they had been plowing it.

2409
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 2: It's still probably two foot.

2410
01:48:04,439 --> 01:48:06,760
Speaker 1: You know. I was gonna say they they they called

2411
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:11,479
Speaker 1: it snow crete froze. They had to take a bunch

2412
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:13,559
Speaker 1: down by the Capitol and put it on a parking

2413
01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:16,800
Speaker 1: lot there. I drove by like this weekend. It's still there. Yeah,

2414
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:20,120
Speaker 1: it's like Jesus, all right. This is a second one

2415
01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:23,599
Speaker 1: is from a gym Chuck Jim says, good morning, Donks.

2416
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:25,439
Speaker 1: Here's a fun one for you. I don't have the

2417
01:48:25,439 --> 01:48:30,679
Speaker 1: creativity to use AI and impose BP doing the foulship

2418
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:33,040
Speaker 1: he partakes in on a daily basis, But nevertheless, this

2419
01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 1: one made me laugh. Keep with the great work along on, Luke,

2420
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:37,599
Speaker 1: You're a legend, it says every time I'm watching MMA

2421
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:39,080
Speaker 1: and my wife walks in the room.

2422
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:42,840
Speaker 2: I think he meant BC right, like, I don't know

2423
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:43,760
Speaker 2: what EP was.

2424
01:48:43,840 --> 01:48:47,280
Speaker 3: I think I don't know who this. Yeah, this would be. Yeah,

2425
01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:50,800
Speaker 3: he's a big north South guy, right.

2426
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:55,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, especially especially at one fifteen. Yeah, he's a

2427
01:48:55,240 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 1: huge north South guy. All right. From Nick, it says, oh,

2428
01:48:58,280 --> 01:49:00,920
Speaker 1: la boys here, Hey, here's a I've spent a few

2429
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:03,160
Speaker 1: days on that. I'd love for you to use however

2430
01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:05,280
Speaker 1: you see fit much love from Oh look at this

2431
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:10,680
Speaker 1: with the arrow through the head King, donk my nose a.

2432
01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:12,760
Speaker 2: Little appreciate that. I appreciate that.

2433
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:13,960
Speaker 1: Oh wait, this is how we did it.

2434
01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:16,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is him making it.

2435
01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 1: Oh, look at the teeth that shit, my nose looks

2436
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:26,200
Speaker 1: like you know what, looks like a potato head. This

2437
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:29,680
Speaker 1: is the time lapse. It's pretty good. Yeah, dumb, and

2438
01:49:29,720 --> 01:49:32,400
Speaker 1: I really want to vape. Yeah this is a fair assessment.

2439
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:36,559
Speaker 1: I love that very uh he said another Oh this

2440
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:38,519
Speaker 1: is the video he did it both, okay, all right,

2441
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:42,240
Speaker 1: this is from Atomic Photoshop. Hey, donks, long time. First time.

2442
01:49:42,520 --> 01:49:44,519
Speaker 1: I was watching Friday's episode, and as much as I

2443
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:47,200
Speaker 1: think Jed fits right into the MK universe, he seemed

2444
01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:49,200
Speaker 1: to be getting a little too comfortable with Luke on

2445
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:51,559
Speaker 1: this one. Love the show and love the rotation of

2446
01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 1: knowledgeable folks. Mkay, all day, let's see.

2447
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:54,479
Speaker 2: This, let's bang.

2448
01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 1: Do you expect that?

2449
01:49:57,760 --> 01:50:00,720
Speaker 2: I don't know, because I could see it.

2450
01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:03,600
Speaker 1: I'm a guy that you can get behind. That'll be

2451
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:05,719
Speaker 1: fun for as long as it lasts, which is to say,

2452
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 1: probably not that long.

2453
01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:13,720
Speaker 2: Unless one or both men coming. Fuck God, that was

2454
01:50:14,439 --> 01:50:15,360
Speaker 2: that was great?

2455
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:19,360
Speaker 1: Odd man. The internet will just tear you to pieces,

2456
01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:22,519
Speaker 1: something like how I help this old lady walk across

2457
01:50:22,600 --> 01:50:24,559
Speaker 1: the street, and they'll turn you into some kind of

2458
01:50:25,640 --> 01:50:29,360
Speaker 1: you know, oh that was good, blesting demon or something.

2459
01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:32,479
Speaker 1: Also making fun of Jed is very much encouraged. On

2460
01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:35,040
Speaker 1: the shoes. That's that's that part is okay? All right?

2461
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:38,360
Speaker 1: This comes to us from Jesse. He writes two displaced

2462
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:41,200
Speaker 1: combat sports journalists during the Great Depression era of UFC

2463
01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:44,320
Speaker 1: as they search for job opportunities and dream of their

2464
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:47,160
Speaker 1: own podcast. Their friendship is a rare bond in a

2465
01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:50,080
Speaker 1: world filled with mediocre fight cards and corporate greed, but

2466
01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:52,640
Speaker 1: their dream is ultimately shattered due to Brian's need to

2467
01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:56,320
Speaker 1: fund his family's future, a growing vinyl collection and monthly

2468
01:50:56,600 --> 01:51:00,280
Speaker 1: and monthly only fan subscriptions. Also, no one died at

2469
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:03,519
Speaker 1: the end. Here it is of Mice and Men, a

2470
01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:07,800
Speaker 1: novel with real talk like men do, written by one

2471
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:09,040
Speaker 1: Laura Luke.

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01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:09,800
Speaker 2: I like it.

2473
01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:14,559
Speaker 1: I haven't read of Mice and Men.

2474
01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:18,280
Speaker 2: In so long, says back in school, you know, like that.

2475
01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:22,720
Speaker 1: The Missive Men or Grapes of Wrath. Yeah, you know,

2476
01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:27,160
Speaker 1: it's been a long time since I've dug into.

2477
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:30,439
Speaker 3: Some I visited Grapes of Wrath like as an adult,

2478
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:32,280
Speaker 3: like I I like, but this now, it's been like

2479
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:35,080
Speaker 3: fifteen years ago. But at some point I did reread

2480
01:51:35,080 --> 01:51:37,280
Speaker 3: it just to kind of refresh everything.

2481
01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 2: It's it's good book, man, I think you would actually

2482
01:51:40,040 --> 01:51:40,320
Speaker 2: like it.

2483
01:51:40,600 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 1: What was the favorite book I read? I read it?

2484
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 1: What was the favorite book you read in high school?

2485
01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:48,640
Speaker 1: I like, because we grew up in the nineties, you

2486
01:51:48,680 --> 01:51:51,600
Speaker 1: had to read Mark Twain, you had to read Fitzgerald.

2487
01:51:52,040 --> 01:51:53,040
Speaker 1: What did you read that you liked?

2488
01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:55,280
Speaker 3: I mean, Katcha and or I spoke to me somehow,

2489
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:57,040
Speaker 3: like you know, haling cabs as a kid, and just

2490
01:51:57,040 --> 01:52:00,000
Speaker 3: this disenfranchised and everybody's phony and all that stuff. Somehow

2491
01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:02,400
Speaker 3: that really spoke to me when I was about that age,

2492
01:52:02,439 --> 01:52:05,479
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, like ninth grade, tenth grade type thing.

2493
01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:08,320
Speaker 1: Last of the Mohicans was a big one for me.

2494
01:52:08,720 --> 01:52:12,360
Speaker 3: Yeah that was good too, That was really good. Yeah.

2495
01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 3: All right, this is from Wes.

2496
01:52:15,080 --> 01:52:18,360
Speaker 1: Of all the quotes LT could give, this as placed

2497
01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:21,839
Speaker 1: on this T shirt, maybe the advice us donks finally

2498
01:52:21,880 --> 01:52:25,800
Speaker 1: take eat bugs, drink piss, do something kind of fun.

2499
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:28,080
Speaker 1: What's this from?

2500
01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:28,320
Speaker 6: Now?

2501
01:52:29,479 --> 01:52:32,839
Speaker 1: This was this from Friday's MK Long Island.

2502
01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:35,240
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't even remember the context, but yes you

2503
01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:35,559
Speaker 2: said that.

2504
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:37,280
Speaker 1: I think I remember. It was like there was there

2505
01:52:37,320 --> 01:52:39,679
Speaker 1: was we were had a matchup where everyone was boring

2506
01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:42,240
Speaker 1: in the matchup show, and I was like, just do

2507
01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:45,880
Speaker 1: something fun, eat bugs, drink piss. Oh you know what

2508
01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:50,920
Speaker 1: it was? BC was interviewing was it movesar He was

2509
01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:55,880
Speaker 1: interviewing either or somebody, and it was so yeah, and

2510
01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:57,920
Speaker 1: it was like real dull. Not by BC's fault, but

2511
01:52:57,960 --> 01:53:00,960
Speaker 1: you know, just course you get what you get, you know, Yeah,

2512
01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:02,920
Speaker 1: And I was like, somebody put it up again one

2513
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:06,240
Speaker 1: more time, and I was like, motherfucker, eat bugs, drink piss,

2514
01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:07,519
Speaker 1: do something kind of fun.

2515
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 2: It's like an Anthony Bourdain type quote, like.

2516
01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:19,400
Speaker 1: It, eat bugs, drink piss. All right from Saoul He writes,

2517
01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:21,840
Speaker 1: the month of March has been great so far. My

2518
01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:25,000
Speaker 1: wife's boss gave us free tickets to the rodeo. Wow,

2519
01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:28,800
Speaker 1: so I had to cosplay as a cowboy. Followed up

2520
01:53:28,840 --> 01:53:33,040
Speaker 1: by my dog Murphy's birthday. He turned three and loves nuggets. Well,

2521
01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:36,519
Speaker 1: what dog doesn't come on? Then, my dad threw my

2522
01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:39,599
Speaker 1: mom a surprise birthday party, but that didn't stop her

2523
01:53:39,880 --> 01:53:44,000
Speaker 1: from getting involved with cooking and serving all her guests.

2524
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:46,519
Speaker 1: Look at all the MK gear. He's got great times,

2525
01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:49,160
Speaker 1: all while wearing the best merchant in the game MK.

2526
01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:53,559
Speaker 1: All day, bro, look at us food? Yeah, I don't

2527
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:55,080
Speaker 1: can I be honest, I don't know about the kukes

2528
01:53:55,240 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 1: in the in the tacos. What does happen there for

2529
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:01,439
Speaker 1: like a palate cleanser, you.

2530
01:54:01,400 --> 01:54:03,840
Speaker 2: Know, I don't know. I was trying to figure out

2531
01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:05,559
Speaker 2: what all was in that, but that did look really good.

2532
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:09,000
Speaker 1: When was the last time you went to the rodeo? Oh?

2533
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:11,160
Speaker 2: Man, I don't think I've ever been to the road.

2534
01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:13,200
Speaker 3: I grew up in Colorado where there was like, uh,

2535
01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:16,360
Speaker 3: you know, Frontier days nearby and all that stuff, and

2536
01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:18,840
Speaker 3: definitely knew people who were into that sort of thing,

2537
01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:20,080
Speaker 3: but that was not my speed.

2538
01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:24,120
Speaker 1: Well, you go to the rod I've been to the

2539
01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:30,120
Speaker 1: rodeo before, yeah, a few times. No. No, you go

2540
01:54:30,240 --> 01:54:31,439
Speaker 1: to a monster truck rally.

2541
01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:34,080
Speaker 3: I have been to one of those when I lived

2542
01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:36,320
Speaker 3: in Orange County. They had like you remember, like Bigfoot

2543
01:54:36,360 --> 01:54:39,520
Speaker 3: and all that stuff. Of course, Grave Digger I think

2544
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:40,760
Speaker 3: Grave Digger was the one I saw.

2545
01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. That was actually unexpectedly a lot of

2546
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:44,440
Speaker 2: fun I did.

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Speaker 3: I just went with some dudes who had tickets in

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01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:48,720
Speaker 3: a box or whatever, and uh, it actually was a

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Speaker 3: lot of fun.

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01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:55,080
Speaker 1: I got drunken ship into one in Richmond Campbell and

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01:54:55,120 --> 01:54:57,280
Speaker 1: it ended up being one of these like because there's

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01:54:57,280 --> 01:55:00,200
Speaker 1: different kinds, like you know, all different ways when to

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01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 1: experience it. But the one I went to was like

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01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:04,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know, we didn't know, we didn't know anything.

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01:55:04,120 --> 01:55:07,880
Speaker 1: This is the fucking nineties. Go to the fucking let's

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01:55:07,920 --> 01:55:10,440
Speaker 1: go see Boris Monster trucks and Richmond. We were in college.

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01:55:10,480 --> 01:55:12,839
Speaker 1: We drove from Williamsburg. It's like an hour at Richmond,

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01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:16,360
Speaker 1: and I drink in the car all the way there

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01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:18,640
Speaker 1: because that's responsible. I wasn't driving, but I was. I

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01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:22,280
Speaker 1: was definitely drinking in the car anyway. So we get

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01:55:22,280 --> 01:55:24,840
Speaker 1: there and uh, it was. It ended up being like

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01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 1: a pro wrestling version of monster trucks. Were like there

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01:55:29,480 --> 01:55:31,120
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I was like, this guy's from a

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01:55:31,160 --> 01:55:33,480
Speaker 1: woman to North Carolina, this guy's from Delaware, and then

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01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 1: there was one guy from Richmond. So everyone's like whoa.

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01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:38,120
Speaker 1: And then they do the race and you could tell

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01:55:38,160 --> 01:55:40,160
Speaker 1: that they were letting off the gas to let the

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01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:44,080
Speaker 1: guy from Richmond won. So everybody in the audience, myself included,

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01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:46,480
Speaker 1: when the race was over, we took our drinks and

2570
01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:50,160
Speaker 1: chucked it at the fucking monster truck and they all

2571
01:55:50,360 --> 01:55:52,120
Speaker 1: they everyone had to leave at that point. So it

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01:55:52,160 --> 01:55:52,520
Speaker 1: was great.

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01:55:53,120 --> 01:55:55,480
Speaker 2: Juvenile delinquent, I'm suppose you do time in juvie.

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01:55:57,000 --> 01:56:01,200
Speaker 1: By the I've never even been arrested handcuff or anything.

2575
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:03,000
Speaker 1: And I'm like, do you know how often I have

2576
01:56:03,080 --> 01:56:05,320
Speaker 1: skirted the law in ways that I never should have

2577
01:56:05,320 --> 01:56:07,080
Speaker 1: been allowed? Try to keep that rolling, man, it's a

2578
01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:08,960
Speaker 1: little too weeat. Yeah, I mean, I'm like, dude, I'm

2579
01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:11,680
Speaker 1: like forty six, I've never been arrested. It's crazy. That

2580
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:14,480
Speaker 1: is nuts, man, because I definitely should have been. Let

2581
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:16,320
Speaker 1: me just tell you that, fuck do you think you are?

2582
01:56:16,400 --> 01:56:16,720
Speaker 5: Brother?

2583
01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:21,640
Speaker 1: Yeah? A reprobate that's who I think I am. All right, Chuck,

2584
01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:23,440
Speaker 1: what you got for coverage this weekend, because we do

2585
01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:25,280
Speaker 1: have something, as we mentioned, some big fights this weekend.

2586
01:56:26,120 --> 01:56:27,640
Speaker 2: This weekend, I'll be doing the crack.

2587
01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:30,600
Speaker 3: I will have some I'm not quite sure exactly what

2588
01:56:30,600 --> 01:56:32,320
Speaker 3: it's going to be, but I you know, the columns

2589
01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:33,600
Speaker 3: are what I've been focused on, so a lot of

2590
01:56:33,640 --> 01:56:36,040
Speaker 3: it is reactive or like previews and stuff like that.

2591
01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:37,680
Speaker 3: So I'll have some stuff on the on the side

2592
01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:39,720
Speaker 3: of on crown coming up this weekend. Probably a uh,

2593
01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:43,000
Speaker 3: it's a big enough card, a big enough like weekend

2594
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:45,600
Speaker 3: where I'll definitely have like a reaction to on Sunday morning.

2595
01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:48,480
Speaker 1: As a reminder, by the way, before I forget, you can,

2596
01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:51,560
Speaker 1: of course email the show Morning Combat at gmail dot com.

2597
01:56:51,720 --> 01:56:54,400
Speaker 1: Winner of the are the guy who has the best

2598
01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:57,080
Speaker 1: or i should say lady in theory who has the

2599
01:56:57,120 --> 01:57:00,560
Speaker 1: best meme for fan subs is gonna win a autographed

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01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:03,200
Speaker 1: poster We'll send to you free of charge, so keep

2601
01:57:03,200 --> 01:57:05,960
Speaker 1: sending him in. Thank you to everyone who did loved them.

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01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:08,760
Speaker 1: More of that, please. We saw the socials. I won't

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01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:11,680
Speaker 1: go back over it. The merch morning excuse me, Morning

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01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:14,280
Speaker 1: Combat dot shop These are the three designs here, and

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01:57:14,280 --> 01:57:16,120
Speaker 1: of course one of them you can get both either

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01:57:16,160 --> 01:57:19,080
Speaker 1: the hoodie or the T shirt form. These will only

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01:57:19,120 --> 01:57:21,160
Speaker 1: be available into the thirty first, so that's coming up

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01:57:21,160 --> 01:57:23,200
Speaker 1: here pretty soon. This will be your last week slash

2609
01:57:23,240 --> 01:57:27,040
Speaker 1: weekend to go ahead and do that Long Island. What

2610
01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:27,880
Speaker 1: do you have to plug?

2611
01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:30,440
Speaker 2: You know? I got the usual this week. You have

2612
01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:31,520
Speaker 2: see Seattle stuff.

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01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:34,280
Speaker 4: I'll have a new prop quiz Friday, watch along Saturday.

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01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:35,640
Speaker 2: You know, the whole nine, the whole nine.

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01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:37,880
Speaker 1: Look for all right, it's very good. Well we shall

2616
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:41,120
Speaker 1: see Chuck. Great work today. Thank you so much here

2617
01:57:41,120 --> 01:57:43,880
Speaker 1: for being here. We'll see you next Monday. Follow all

2618
01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:46,320
Speaker 1: of Chuck's work if you're out there watching, oh as

2619
01:57:46,320 --> 01:57:48,520
Speaker 1: a reminder one more time, and I'll remind everyone on Friday.

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01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:51,840
Speaker 1: Brian Campbell on the call for this weekend's PBC if

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01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:53,240
Speaker 1: you guys want to check that out as well on

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01:57:53,280 --> 01:57:58,080
Speaker 1: PBC on Amazon. Yeah, all right, So for Ice Man himself, Chuck,

2623
01:57:58,120 --> 01:58:00,120
Speaker 1: Minden Hall, for everyone else on the show for a

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01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:02,280
Speaker 1: Long Island. Luke, I'm Luke Thomas. We'll see you guys

2625
01:58:02,280 --> 01:58:04,560
Speaker 1: on Friday, and until then, may all of your gains

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01:58:04,720 --> 01:58:05,240
Speaker 1: be loyal