1 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk. 2 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 2: Hi. 3 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're 4 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: going to talk about a Love is Blind contestant who 5 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: had a horrific accident with now glue. Brooks Naders was 6 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: in the news this week telling us a super relatable 7 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: story about getting food poisoning in true crime news. We 8 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: will get started with a growing trend over the past 9 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: twenty years involving female teachers who rape their students. Next, 10 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: we'll talk about a couple who lived with the body 11 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: of their dead child for months to quote spend more 12 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: time with her, only to find out later that they 13 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: were actually responsible for her death. Then we'll talk about 14 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: an arrest that came from a horrific acid at that 15 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: happened years ago. We'll finish up with some other death news, 16 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: including a medical examiner who accidentally threw out a human skull. 17 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: All that and more on today's episode. 18 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: All Right. 19 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 3: Season ten of Love Is Blind is currently airing, and 20 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 3: it was revealed that one of the contestants had to 21 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: be hospitalized after she accidentally put nail glue into her 22 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 3: eye thinking that it was eye drops. 23 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: This is so horrific. 24 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 3: This had happened to my beloved real housewife of Salt 25 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 3: Lake City, Lisa Barla before. I believe she was supposed 26 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 3: to go and watch What Happens live and right before 27 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: she said she thought she was putting eye drops in 28 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: her eye and accidentally grabbed nil glue and had to 29 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 3: go to the emergency room. I can't even fathom how 30 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 3: bad this burns. I got nail glue in my eye 31 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: before by accident. 32 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: Once. 33 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: Why did they make the bottles look similar they do? 34 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: I didn't do it because of that. I was trying to, 35 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, when it gets clogged. I was trying to 36 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: like pick off the top and the little adapter thing 37 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: that's attached to it. In some time, especially with now glue, 38 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: it like flew off, and then the glue splashed on 39 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: my face and I closed my eye really quick, but 40 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: my eye it didn't hurt at all, but my eyelashes 41 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: were glued shut. And it scared the shit out of 42 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: me because I, like I didn't know there and there 43 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: was no such place as like urgent care back then, 44 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: because this was in the nineties. But I didn't know 45 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: if it got in my eye, like it didn't hurt, 46 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: but I didn't know because I couldn't open my eye, 47 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: and I was petrified that like it might have damaged 48 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: my vision somehow, and I just had to go to Luckily, 49 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,839 Speaker 1: I was able to go to an eye doctor who 50 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: came in as an emergency, and he under some kind 51 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: of I guess they have like a an ocular lens. 52 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: I could look at the eye a little bit closer 53 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: to just see exactly what he was doing, and he 54 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: cut my eyelashes off and then it was fine, So 55 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: like my instincts closed my eyes quick enough. But we 56 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: have a case actually in the gross room that's called ointment, 57 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: super glue and Bible. And the reason that I titled 58 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: it was because there's this twenty nine year old woman 59 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: who did the same exact thing that you're talking about 60 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: in this case, who had prescription ointment to put in 61 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: her eye, and accidentally that was what was on her 62 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: nightstand was ointment super glue on top of a Bible, 63 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: and she grabbed the wrong bottle and like squirted it 64 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: with force into her eye. And it shows you what 65 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: that looks like. It's terrifying. But one thing that I 66 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: learned from this is that you're supposed to try to 67 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: put water on it even if it appears that it's 68 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: dried right away, because it will prevent further adhesion to 69 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: the tissues inside of the eye. So it is good 70 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: to flush it even though you think you know that 71 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: it's already fixed. 72 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: God, this is so horrible. 73 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: I've heard about a lot of people mistaking ear drops 74 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: for eye drops. I mean, they all come in similarly 75 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 3: shaped bottles, which I don't know if that needs to 76 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: be changed because it's the accidents are happening too much. 77 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: No, it's actually true because I have you know, we 78 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: have a pool, so in the summer, I have these 79 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: ear drops that you you know, when you get your 80 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: ear clogged mm hmm, it's you just put them in 81 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: and it it's just basically it's alcohol, right, and it 82 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: just dries up the water that's in your ear. It's 83 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: it's an amazing product. But I had like itchy eyes 84 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: one night, and I was like going through my drawer 85 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: what do you call my drawers that have all of my. 86 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 3: Eliar Munchausen's cabinet, My my Munchausen's cabinet, and so I 87 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 3: was going through there looking for the allergy eye drops, 88 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 3: and then I picked up the container because it was 89 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: dark and I was feeling around and I picked up 90 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: the container and saw that it said that it was 91 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 3: the ear drops, and I was like, holy shit, this 92 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 3: is how people do this, and I would have put 93 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 3: like alcohol directly into my eye, especially because like you're 94 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 3: completely blind with out your glasses on. So yeah, just 95 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 3: we're basing your instinct off the shape of the bottom, yeah, exactly. 96 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: Like I picked it up and I was like, this 97 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 3: feels weird. It's like point because it is longer in pointier, 98 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 3: but it's still like one of those tiny bottles. They're 99 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 3: too similar and they need to change it. I mean, 100 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: I think that she ended up being okay, but still 101 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: this was I think this wasn't her like first couple 102 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: of days of filming too, which like what a disaster. 103 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: This one brand of allergy eye drops that I use 104 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: is it looks like the same as that container that 105 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: they put certain now glues in. It's it's like the 106 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: same as that container. It's so that shouldn't be allowed, Yeah, 107 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: it's it is. 108 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: I mean, we're like they. 109 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 3: Need to make the cosmetic ones, like for nail glue, 110 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: like neon color, so. 111 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: You know, have a different color lit or something. 112 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, like this is not the same 113 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 3: product as this. 114 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I understand how it. 115 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: Happens to people. It just sounds terrible, all right. Over 116 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: the weekend, Brooks Nader was on a trip for her 117 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,119 Speaker 3: twenty ninth birthday, and while fly on a private jet, 118 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 3: her sister posted pictures of her, saying she was struck 119 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 3: with serious food poisoning and that an ambulance was waiting 120 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: for her when the plane landed. Listen, I'm totally ignorant, 121 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 3: Like I I saw that you added this story this week, 122 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 3: and I'm like, who is this? 123 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: I never heard of this person. And I don't even 124 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: understand how her first name is Brooks. It doesn't it 125 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: doesn't even make sense. 126 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: But Brooks is a popular name, believe it or not 127 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: especially weird. Okay, anyway, she is a model. 128 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: Sorry to all the Brooks who are listening right now, 129 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: there probably are. 130 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 3: I don't understand your name canceled. She is a model, 131 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 3: and she is most recently in the news a lot 132 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 3: because her and her sisters have a reality show called 133 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 3: Love thy Nator after their last name, and that's pretty 134 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 3: much why she's relevant. I mean, I I don't so 135 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 3: she's not okay. She is a relevant winter her model 136 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 3: like every other hot girl online. Right. I've talked shit 137 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: about her on Instagram or on YouTube live because she's 138 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: younger than me and looks like she's a hot forty 139 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: year old woman. 140 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: Like whatever. 141 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: She's got a lot of work going on. And I 142 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 3: know that's caddy or bitchy of me to say whatever. 143 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: That's honestly how I feel. But anyway, she was going 144 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: to Saint Bart's for her twenty ninth birthday and they 145 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 3: were on a private jet and then one of her 146 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: sisters posted these pictures of her like under the covers 147 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 3: and their dad feeding her water, and then they posted 148 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: a picture that an ambulance was waiting for them when 149 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: they landed. TMZ was saying a source told them it 150 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: was due to bad sushi. People online are saying that 151 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: they don't buy that. Some people have called her out, saying, okay, 152 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 3: you just partied too hard. Also, in November, it came 153 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: out that she was addicted to taking GLP ones to 154 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 3: maintain her body for her modeling career, So people are 155 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: calling that out. I don't know the real reason behind it, 156 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: but that's what the people online. 157 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: She probably just like upped her dose and that's what happened. 158 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: She was like deathly ill. You know this, this is 159 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: so this whole entire article is so douchey. It really is. 160 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: Like you know, I've said this before in the past, 161 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: like when celebrities are in the hospital and they're like 162 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: taking pictures of themselves, like. 163 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: It's very attention seeking behavior. 164 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it drives me not to like celebrities 165 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: taking pictures of themselves crying or videos of themselves crying. 166 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: It's like who does that? 167 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 3: When people post pictures of a hospital bracelet and then 168 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: say don't ask, and you're like, you are the most 169 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: obnoctous person on this planel. 170 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god. So this picture is like this woman like, 171 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: how again, how is any regular person supposed to relate 172 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: to this? She's laying on the floor of an airplane, okay. 173 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: A private airplane. 174 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: What what person in the world that you know can 175 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: even fit their feet on the in the airplane, let 176 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: alone like lay your whole body on the floor of 177 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: the airplane. Like it's so you're like, oh, you were 178 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: in your private jet and you were bent over with 179 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: Daddy feeding you water with a blanket. 180 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: Separts, which is the most expensive place in the world 181 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: to go. 182 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I was trying to find out because I'm sure. 183 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure she posted about whatever sushi restaurant she was 184 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: at that that she got sick at, which probably is 185 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: like she didn't even get sick at, and now she's 186 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: going to ruin the reputation of this restaurant. 187 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I was trying to see where it was 188 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 3: because it didn't say they said that's what happened in 189 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 3: said a source told TMC, that's what happened, So like 190 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 3: who is said source her pr agent. But yeah, I 191 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 3: was trying to go back to see if she had 192 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 3: posted anything about eating sushi somewhere. I didn't see anything, 193 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 3: and nobody on any forums was talking about it. 194 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: But this is why I think it's bullshit too, because 195 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: like sushi, sushi is one of those ones that you 196 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: can totally get sick from, but usually if you do 197 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: gets like you get really sick, like you get like 198 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: a parasite from raw fish or like or you could 199 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: get vibrio or something like that from the Like I 200 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: just I don't think that she had it. And then 201 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: like god often was partying later that night, like she 202 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: didn't have like a low grade infection from eating foods. 203 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 204 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 3: Like the way they presented it was that she had 205 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 3: it for the duration of the flight from New York 206 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: City to Saint Barts. And that's what I'm saying. And 207 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 3: I don't who poison operates. 208 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it could like if you had 209 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: Like I mean, there's been times where like you eat 210 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: something and then you like shit your brains out, and 211 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: then like the next day it's like you're kind of 212 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: okay or something right, like a low grade There's no 213 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: there's no kind with sushi that's giving you that like back, 214 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: like a quick in and out. M I'm skeptical of 215 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: this story. I don't believe it, and I don't know, 216 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: just like I'm just so annoyed by the whole entire thing. 217 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: Like the picture she showed looks like she's like laying 218 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 1: on a carpet in a plane, Like you're not relatable. 219 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: I thought it was more interesting. 220 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: When why is she one GLP wants anyway? 221 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 3: Because she said it's to maintain her weight for her 222 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 3: modeling career because she's like a swimsuit model. Oh my god, 223 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 3: And that's the problem too, And like she came forward 224 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: with how was anybody ever a model before this? Dude, 225 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 3: I don't I don't understand what these people are willing 226 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 3: to do. 227 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: That to me is like that to me is like 228 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: a serious illness. I actually will go on a limb 229 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: and say that's one hundred percent of what was happening 230 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: with her. It's something to do with that drug and 231 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: not needing it. Based on appearances, she has to be 232 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: a size too, right, like not good enough. It's not 233 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: like she's morbidly obese and trying to control her weight. 234 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: Like she's an. 235 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: Extremely thin person. So I don't even understand if who 236 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 3: would have told she was ft? Like I've never seen 237 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 3: a picture of her where she looked even bigger than 238 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 3: that size, Like what and who's going access? 239 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: Like do you know people are on a plane and 240 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: all of a sudden figure out that they had food 241 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: poisoning or something like that, like, oh, there's there's an 242 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: ambulance waiting for you, Like. 243 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: Oh my cam, Yeah, it's so douchey. All right, it's 244 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: happened again. 245 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 3: A teacher got pregnant after having sex with one of 246 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 3: her students, and she further broke the boy's heart by 247 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 3: getting an abortion, So this, like, I don't understand what happened, 248 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 3: but it became popular ever since Mary Kay Laturno did this, 249 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: which was shocking. I think that most women were just 250 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: like I don't understand how a grown woman could be 251 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 3: attracted to a child like that. But it was also 252 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 3: the first time that we really ever heard of it. 253 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 3: I'm sure it was happening before then, but I feel 254 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 3: like that was so shocking, and then ever since then, 255 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 3: the past twenty or so years, twenty twenty five years, 256 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 3: it happens like a lot. I feel like in the 257 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 3: last two years, we've had many stories and we don't 258 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 3: even cover them because of how frequently it happened. 259 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: What like this is this is like a very interesting 260 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: phenomenon to me. 261 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: It's it's weird to me. 262 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 3: Well, obviously these people are pedophiles, right, and you have 263 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 3: to wonder if they went into this career to be 264 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 3: around children. But it is weird to me that these people, 265 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 3: like in this case, this woman is married. They refer 266 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 3: to her as a mother, so I'm assuming she has 267 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 3: a child with her husband or something, And then like, 268 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 3: you're gonna ruin your entire life and this is not 269 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: her only victim. 270 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 2: This was her victim. 271 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 3: So this student she got pregnant with, she had the 272 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 3: relationship with in twenty and seventeen, in twenty eighteen, and 273 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 3: then she got pregnant and had an abortion, which honestly, 274 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 3: I feel like that was the right call for his sake, right, 275 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 3: And then fast forward to twenty twenty four, she had 276 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 3: groomed another male student. Yeah, I mean I was thinking 277 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 3: about that with the abortion situation. The thing is, though, 278 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 3: is that apparently she had told him that she was 279 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: pregnant and he didn't want her to get an abortion. Now, 280 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 3: like a fourteen year old clearly does. 281 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: Not know like what that entails, what that entails. 282 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 3: But like. 283 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: Some especially if he was if he was brought up religious, 284 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: to think that that that was wrong or something like 285 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: on top of being sexually abused, I mean, like he 286 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: his first child now was aborted, right, and like against 287 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: his will. It's just like a lot for a little 288 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: kid to deal with. 289 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean in general, like I understand that concern. 290 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 3: I'm just saying like it in the end, I think 291 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 3: it was better off that that happened for his sake, 292 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: so he wasn't forever tied to this woman. 293 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the whole thing is just it's just 294 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: wrong and it's weird. And I would, you know what 295 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: we should really try to say if we could talk 296 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: to a psychiatrist at some point about this, because I'm 297 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: really interested with like psychologically if it's still the underlying 298 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: same thing for men who are teachers, let's say, that 299 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: want to have relationships with children like this, versus women 300 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: who are teachers that want to have relationships like this. 301 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: Like I know you were saying something about like when 302 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: she got hired, was she is that why she got 303 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: the job at the school because of that? And and like, honestly, 304 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: I don't think it's the same kind of mechanism with 305 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: women as it is with men. I feel like it's 306 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: more of like and oftentimes too Mary Kay Laturno, this 307 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: particular person. You hear that this this woman that is 308 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: grooming the student is married and has children at home. 309 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: It's almost like a do you think it could be 310 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: just like not ready to be mature, trying to be 311 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: in high school again kind of thing like weird like 312 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: that as opposed to just being an actual like predator 313 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: and trying to get a job. It's more of like 314 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: the feeling of having a baby and having a husband 315 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: and just missing that old life you had kind of 316 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: a thing. 317 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 3: I mean totally because you have to look at the 318 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 3: one side, which is like either people are predators and 319 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 3: they're getting this job to be around children all the time, 320 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 3: or there's another case where like sometimes they say when 321 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 3: you experience an extremely traumatic event in your life, that 322 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 3: you're like stuck at that age mentally and maturity wise, 323 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 3: so you. 324 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: Have Yeah, I almost think I almost think it might 325 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: be something like that. There's just like some I mean 326 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: for me, I think about especially that age of middle 327 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: school that was like the worst time ever I would 328 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: never ever want to relive that in and thinking about 329 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: like boys that look like children still it's just like 330 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: I don't understand it, but there has to be some 331 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: kind of is she married and doesn't feel like her 332 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: husband's pain enough attention to her and these young boys 333 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: are like think she's hot or like was she. 334 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 3: The victim of some type of sexual abuse or witness 335 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 3: some type of sexual abuse and this is justified in 336 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 3: her mind. 337 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, Well, so embarrassing. It's so embarrassing, and 338 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: like I think her family owned a restaurant, so it's 339 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: like her name is like very Yeah, she was. 340 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 3: Like having like I don't even want to say having 341 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: a really true she was sexually assaulting these boys in. 342 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: Her marital home, in her car. 343 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 3: In her family's restaurant where they allegedly worked. 344 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: I just don't understand it. I just I can't wrap 345 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: my brain around it at all. But yeah, and it's 346 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: it's happening. It seriously is happening multiple times a week. 347 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: We actually have talked about stories of women that are 348 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: having babies with these kids, and I mean Mary Kayla 349 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: Turner didn't she have like two with this kid. 350 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, So like I guess the extra out of level 351 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 3: weirdness to this story is that, like Mary Kayla Turno 352 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 3: did that, but she ended up being with him for 353 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 3: years after until she died, right or maybe they got 354 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 3: I think they the force right. 355 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: Before she died. 356 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was like something regardless of shocker, it didn't 357 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: work out, totally. 358 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 3: Messed up and illegal, but like they were together after. 359 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 3: In this case, it's like this woman was doing it 360 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 3: to multiple victims. So it wasn't even like she like 361 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 3: targeted one person and was like justifying that in her mind, 362 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 3: like she was just an overall Predator. 363 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's so bizarre. 364 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 2: I don't I just won't understand it. 365 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 3: This episode is brought to you by the Grocero. 366 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: Guys, we don't put the grocer Room for sal that often, 367 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: but it is on sound now until the end of 368 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: the month for twenty for an entire year of gross, 369 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: so you'll have access to all of our years in 370 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: the Gross Room, thousands of posts. 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But then police found out that 384 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 3: they ended up being responsible for her death. 385 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: So I don't really understand what this this is about. 386 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: But this kid was very small when she was found, 387 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,479 Speaker 1: twenty six pounds for an eight year old, which is 388 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: outrageous because that's the size of a toddler, right, So 389 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: clearly she was underfed malnourished at the hands of them. 390 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: But the weird part is is that they they did 391 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: she did die on their watch, and they decided that 392 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: they wanted to stay with her for a couple of months, 393 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: which was bizarre because if you mistreat a child, why 394 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: would you want to stay with their dead body for 395 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: three months? But they show up at a funeral home 396 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: with her dead body to have a funeral for her, 397 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: and of course the funeral home is like, where's the 398 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: paperwork that she died? Like why do you have a 399 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,479 Speaker 1: dead child right now that you're bringing here without some 400 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: kind of like a hospital interaction or like. 401 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 3: In a coffin loaded in a U haul truck pulls up. Yeah, 402 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 3: funeral homes so South Dakota by the way, when they're from. 403 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: Washing Yeah, like any funeral home is gonna be like 404 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: red flag because I mean, like I guess sometimes if 405 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: a kid has cancer and is on hospice and stuff, 406 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: they could die at home, and then that would be 407 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: a situation where a funeral home would then go to 408 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: the house and pick up the body and bring the 409 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: child back to the funeral home. But like, there's never 410 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: a situation where somebody should be bringing a dead body 411 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: to a funeral home, like ever, really, there's just not. 412 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: So of course, the person walked out the door while 413 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: the funeral director had their phone up it was calling 414 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: nine on one right away to be like, something weird's 415 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: going on here. So they pull over this person and 416 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: find this dead child in a coffin inside of a 417 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: U haul truck and like obviously decomposed, twenty six pounds, malnourished, 418 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: Like do people are out of their fricking minds? 419 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, And this was the weirdest part to me. So 420 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 3: they start investigating them, and they said, unbeknownst to them, 421 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 3: their home camera system recorded them assaulting the child, and 422 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 3: their home camera system recorded them tying her to a 423 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 3: car seat with zip tized or restrain her. They did 424 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 3: assault her, they did starve her, they did restrain her, 425 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: they did torture her, and they did kill her. Like 426 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 3: you don't know you have a camera system in your house. 427 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: That these people are like slow like what is happening? Like, 428 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: I mean, and it's it's a shame. It's it's such 429 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: a shame. So so this was an adopted child, but 430 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: it was her biological niece. Yeah, so it's like this 431 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: kid already had to be adopted because. 432 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 3: One of her siblings is a piece of shit too, right, Yeah, 433 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 3: you don't know, we don't know what happened. The mom 434 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 3: could have died or like, you don't know what happened. 435 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess you're right. I'm just saying like usually 436 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: birds of a feathers flocked together, right, Like if if 437 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: this woman's like this, I'm sure her family is not 438 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: like upstanding citizens. But regardless, like this kid already lost 439 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: her biological parents and is now going and getting adopted 440 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: by and in a more shitty situation. Yeah, so this 441 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: lady was set ince to thirty two years and four 442 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: months in prison and then the boyfriend that get guilty, 443 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: Well she pleaded guilty, so it was a plea deal. 444 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: But that's that's the deal. Like she just gets a 445 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: couple of years. 446 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 3: Thirty two years and four months. 447 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: The kid's dead. 448 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 3: Just I understand this. I think this is life in prison, 449 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 3: but it's not like two years. 450 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: It's also not like, oh, my kid was being a 451 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: brat and I killed them in a fit of rage. 452 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: It's like you tortured that child. You should go to 453 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: jail for the rest of your life. 454 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 3: No, Like, this is one of those situations where I 455 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 3: think an eye for an eye should apply, Like you 456 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 3: should starve this person and then let their torp in that. 457 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: Property, for it's not gonna go over well. 458 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 3: No, I understand child to death. You should be starved 459 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 3: to death. I understand that. And then it's like you 460 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 3: meet a boyfriend that's also on board with this. 461 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 2: Where are these people meeting? 462 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, And I just don't really understand why 463 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: they wanted to spend more time with the body, Like. 464 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 3: No, it seems like they couldn't figure out how they 465 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 3: were going to get rid of her, and then they 466 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 3: were clearly idiots. So then like they thought they'd just 467 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 3: drop her off a couple of states away at a 468 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 3: different funeral home and no questions asked. Like that's just 469 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 3: not how it works. 470 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: I mean imagine, like, and we talked to you guys 471 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: in law enforcement, like especially with this whole Nancy Gothree case, 472 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: like you know that there's just we see all the time, 473 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: like all these law enforcement are working to like look 474 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: through videos and find this and find that, and it's 475 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: like it's such a challenge sometimes to try to to 476 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: figure out these cases and look for little clues and 477 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: stuff like. But we never talk about investigations like this 478 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: that are just so easily handed on a platter to investigators, like, oh, 479 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: let's go check out the house and see, Oh, it 480 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: looks like there's cameras. Let's look at the footage. Well, 481 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: they're doing the crime right here. It's pretty cut and dry, 482 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 1: like we don't even have to do anything. They just 483 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: like admitted to it on film. 484 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 3: Clearly they were complete idiots if they didn't even know 485 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 3: they were being recorded this whole time. I mean, come on, Like, 486 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 3: how stupid are you. 487 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 2: In their house? Like I assume when I. 488 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 3: Leave my door that I'm being recorded everywhere I go. 489 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 3: We live in a surveillance state unfortunately, but like in 490 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 3: your own house you don't realize you're being recorded. I mean, 491 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 3: this is like unacceptable all right. Back in March twenty 492 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 3: twenty one, this Hofstra University student was left disfigured after 493 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 3: a man threw a cup of acid in her face 494 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: and drove away, and finally, five years later, somebody has 495 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 3: been arrested for it. 496 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 1: I feel so terrible for this woman. Oh absolutely terrible. 497 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: She she really is. She has permanent disability because of this. 498 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: She has so much scarring on her face, She lost 499 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: the vision in her one eye, she still as she 500 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: can't open her mouth. 501 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: Dozens of surgery, I mean. 502 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: Dozens of surgery, still dozens of surgeries ahead of her. 503 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: But on top of the physical pain that she had 504 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 1: to deal with this, imagine knowing somebody intentionally threw acid 505 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: on your face like this to permanently disfigure you, and 506 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: the how scared you would be knowing that this person 507 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: is still on the loose. 508 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 3: Well yeah, so, like I know, it's been five years. 509 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 3: But like talking about easy investigations, handed Over police got 510 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 3: a tip a couple months ago, and then when they 511 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 3: started looking into this person, I mean, it couldn't have 512 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 3: been more obvious. 513 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 2: They said. 514 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 3: His Google searches included sulfuric acid remover, sulfuric acid on 515 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 3: car seat, can you recover from a sulfuric acid attack? 516 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 3: And then he was an aspiring rapper who published a 517 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 3: song called Obsidian, which refers to burning someone's face with acid, 518 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: like you're bragging about it. 519 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: Also, think about this, like you went to a woman's 520 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: house that was completely innocent and through sulfur ururic acid 521 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: on her face, and you're worried about the fact that 522 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: you spilled it in your car on your car seat, 523 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: and you're trying to look how to clean that up, 524 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: Like it is really disturbing that anybody has that mentality. 525 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 2: You know what else was really weird? 526 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 3: This article first of all mentioned that they're like worried 527 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 3: because there's this five year statute of limitations on attacks 528 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 3: like this, so they're worried if anybody else is involved, 529 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 3: they might not get them in time because of this limitation. 530 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 3: And then they're also looking in to see if he 531 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 3: was hired because of how. 532 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: Kandom it was. And that happens. So I have a 533 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: case in the gross room. Actually that's called who Would 534 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: Want to Marry You? And I did it a couple 535 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: of years ago, and it's about so this took place 536 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: in another country, but it's about an eighteen year old 537 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: woman that a similar kind of thing happened, and it 538 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: seemed like it was a retaliation thing for something that 539 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: was going on. In their family with one of her brothers, 540 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: So I mean it happens in other countries sometimes too. 541 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: And the worst part of that case, and the reason 542 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: why it's called who would want to marry you? Is 543 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: because she was talking to her mother as she got 544 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: older and said, like, are you going to try to 545 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: find someone to for me to marry? Because they did 546 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 1: arrange marriages in the country she was from. And her 547 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: mom looked at her and said, oh, look at you, like, 548 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: who would ever want to marry you? Looking like this? 549 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: Because she's when you get burned with sulphiuric acid, like 550 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: you look, you look similar to a burn victim. You 551 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 1: just have a very extreme scarring. If it happens on 552 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: your hair and your face, like the hair doesn't grow 553 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: there anymore. Right, A skin grafts all of these things 554 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: sometimes if it gets on your hands, like finger amputations 555 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: and things like that. That story ended up having a 556 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: good outcome. But if you guys are interested in reading 557 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: all about that. And the burns are different than a 558 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,959 Speaker 1: flame burn, especially because when you throw a chemical on 559 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: someone like that, if you can't get it off right 560 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: right away, it just can continues to burn and burn 561 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: and burn and go deeper into your tissues. It's so terrible. 562 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 3: Didn't we have a story like last year and maybe 563 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:13,719 Speaker 3: I'm putting two stories together that this person went to 564 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 3: go throw acid on somebody's face and then they also 565 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 3: were trying to put a GPS tracker on their car, 566 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 3: but they turned the tracker on when they were at 567 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 3: a hotel and then they figured out who did it, because. 568 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's did it happen like around here? 569 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, because they stayed the hotel. Right, No, they stayed 570 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 3: at like the a Loft and Mount laurel Ors. Oh 571 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 3: why why did I think such a fancy hotel? It 572 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 3: was not a sophisticated crime. Therefore they should not be 573 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 3: allowed to stay in. 574 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 2: The so dumb? 575 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: What a moron? I remember that. Yeah. They they bought 576 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: a GPS tracker and were like, let's see if this 577 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: works and put it on, like what a moron? 578 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they were immediately able to be like, 579 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 3: okay it was at this hotel. Who checked into this hotel? 580 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 3: They found the person like no problem, what a dummy? 581 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 2: All right? 582 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 3: Last story for the week. A new lawsuit is claiming 583 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 3: that a San Francisco medical examiner throw out a human 584 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 3: skull and then fired an employee who caught him doing it. 585 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: So the normal procedure is when you have a person, 586 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: so this was a female, so it's a Jane Doe. 587 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: If you have a Jane Doe or John Doe would 588 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: be a male. And this body was found in a 589 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: homeless encampment, so they have no idea who it is. 590 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: So the normal procedure would be to just keep the 591 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: body at the medical examiner's office and try to do 592 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: everything you can to possibly figure out who this person 593 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: is by lots of different methods, doing fingerprints or if 594 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: the person isn't super decomposed, if they have any tattoos 595 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: that are visible. Sometimes they'll post them on their website. 596 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: They'll even post them on Instagram or something to try 597 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: to identify who a person is. Sometimes they post pictures 598 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: of the clothes they were in, just trying to do anything. 599 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: This person has this rare necklace that someone might recognize, 600 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: and when they do everything, then the last thing that 601 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: they're going to do is try to use the skull 602 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: to make to reconstruct what they think their face would 603 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: look like and then try to figure out who it is, 604 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: and if all else fails, then finally they'll cremate the 605 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: body and just put the ashes around the golden gate bridge. 606 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: And so in this situation, it was like at that 607 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: process right beforehand, where they were trying to figure out 608 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: who this person was by reconstructing their skull to try 609 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: to see what their face would look like, and the 610 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: medical examiner's office was having an inspection come up, so 611 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: the person that was in charge decided, like, Okay, we 612 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: have to like hurry up and clean this to make 613 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: it look good before the inspectors get here, and through 614 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: the skull out in the trash. It was probably like 615 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: an accident. It wasn't like an intentional thing. But I 616 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: guess when this employee wreck was doing inventory and she 617 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: recognized that it was missing, she brought it to the 618 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: attention of the people in charge, and everybody started just 619 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: acting like real sketchy about it. And she said that 620 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: she started feeling retaliation as soon as that happened. 621 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I guess what also happened is that like 622 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 3: she was up for a promotion and then things started 623 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 3: getting weird, and then they then this complaint. She filed 624 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 3: this complaint against a funeral home for something totally unrelated 625 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 3: about her grandmother, and then they went back to the 626 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 3: Medical Examiner's office and said that she was like using 627 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 3: her position as a death investigator against them, and then 628 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 3: the Medical Examiner's office used that complaint to fire her. 629 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they said they were they laid her 630 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: off because of staffing issues and budget issues and stuff. 631 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: But she seems to think that it all started everything 632 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: started going down after she said that this person had 633 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: thrown out the skull. 634 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so like now she had filed this lawsuit for 635 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 3: wrongful termination. They're saying that the San Francisco Board of 636 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 3: Supervisors moved to settle it for seven hundred and fifty 637 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 3: thousand dollars. 638 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 639 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: Well they want to sweep this under the rug because 640 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: they don't want to admit that they actually threw human 641 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: remains in the trash. 642 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like you're gonna retaliate about somebody that was 643 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 3: just doing their job and taking inventory and then realized 644 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 3: it was missing. 645 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just like, Okay, seven hundred and fifty thousand 646 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: dollars is gonna make this thing go away, Like let's 647 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: do that. 648 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 3: Well, now it's in the news, so it's not really 649 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 3: good look for them. 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