1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: If you thought more hours a day, hundred minutes a 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: week was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: of the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: rich pill poppers in the penthouse, to clearinghouse of hot takes, 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: Maller starts right now in the air everywhere. We were 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: back at it starting the weekend. As we get going 9 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: here with another full weekend a fifth Hour podcast. 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And back 25 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: amazingly another weekend with David Gascon as he is in 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: here hand sound effects, n scind the thoughts on that 27 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: octu here nothing nothing canned about that just got some 28 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: people off the four or five free way they wanted 29 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 1: to come on in and say hello. So it's uh, 30 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: it's gonna be back in the house and of course 31 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: a brand new day, a little tired from having to 32 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: put together a bunch of crap for you. I'm sure 33 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: we'll get into that in the next day or two. No, no, no, 34 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: you didn't have to do any any of that. There's 35 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: high production value, like you know, like this podcast is 36 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: so moving. But but yeah, you are what pathetic? I'm awesome. Awesome, 37 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: that's not a word. That's not a word I would use. 38 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: That's a word I would use. You're not You're not 39 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: really kind, You're not really compatible with compliments. So it's 40 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: here's what I here's what I do. I believe in 41 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: tough love. Okay, that's what I do. I get I 42 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: believe you get better it's called constructive criticism, is what 43 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: it is. No, No, you don't give anything constructive, You 44 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: just criticize. Now, if I was a doctor. If I 45 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: was a doctor, would I be a dentist? Would I 46 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: be a surgeon? No? I would be doctor truth. All right, 47 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: That's what I am, doctor truth with valid and well 48 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: reasoned opinions. You'd be like by the dozen. You wouldn't 49 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: be an ear doctor. You wouldn't be ear nose and 50 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: through it. Maybe like an ophthalmologist, because at times you 51 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: are observant of the times you're not. You don't really 52 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: listen to ship. You just talk loud over people. It's 53 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: pretty much it. So you'd be an optimologists. It's called 54 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: being a talk show host. Have you ever heard a 55 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: talk host? Have you ever heard a talk show host? 56 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: Who's I have my talk show host. I would like 57 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: you to listen. We got some guys that are here 58 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: like that, don't you think? Do you want to name names? No? 59 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: But no, I don't know. I I don't listen to 60 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys. But if I have heard 61 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: some people over the years that are like that, and 62 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: you know what I do? Click click, I move on, 63 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: I go, I go elsewhere. I don't listen. Why would 64 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: I want to listen to that. If I want to 65 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: hear somebody whisper, I'll go to the library. I don't 66 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: need to hear that on the radio or podcasting or 67 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. So mine back to this podcast. Yes, today's podcast. Now, 68 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 1: this is what's known as alternative programming. Right now. I'm 69 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: excited to do this. We were actually we're supposed to 70 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: do this interview last week. You know, we've been working 71 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: on this for a couple of weeks. But I think 72 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: it's perfect because it's obviously NFL Draft weekend and all 73 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: that going on that rigamore or so, I think we 74 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: should give you an alternate, a little break from all 75 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: that football stuff. And I am fired up because we 76 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: have a legitimate big name, this guy Royalty in his 77 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: day back in his halcyon days with the Pittsburgh Pirates, 78 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: as we are chatting with the great Dave Parker. Dave Parky, 79 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: National League MVP in nineteen seventy eight, was part of 80 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: the we Are Family Pittsburgh Pirates of nineteen seventy nine, 81 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: played with Willie Stargel and was teammates with Pete Rose. 82 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: Played with Conseco and McGuire. Robin Youunt was his team 83 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: in Hall of Famer with Milwaukee. Dave Winfield with the 84 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: Angels won a couple of World Series and his resume 85 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: is outstanding. Uh, And we're gonna gonna chat here with 86 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: with the Parker. He's got a new book out Gascon. 87 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: It's called Cobra, A Life of Baseball and Brotherhood. It 88 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: just came out in April, the beginning of April, so 89 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: it's only it's only been out for a short time. 90 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: And if you're like me and you remember watching Dave 91 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: Parker and the way he played with the Bravado to 92 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: his game, you're gonna wanna kinda read the book. I mean, 93 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: he goes uh full in on everything here. We'll get 94 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: into some of it just a little bit. We'll scratch 95 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: the service. But it's a book designed more for an 96 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: adult audience, which is good. So he's gonna tell some 97 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: of I mean, this guy was part of the pirates 98 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: back when they were you know, in the seventies and 99 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: the eighties, when you know, cocaine was in the air everywhere, 100 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: and I was dragged into that the Pittsburgh drug trials, 101 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: which he was a star of we'll ask him about that. 102 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: By the way, before I we get into the conversation 103 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: with Dave Parker, if you're gonna buy the book, I 104 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: recommend going to Dave Parker thirty nine Foundation dot com 105 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: because if you if you're gonna buy the book anyway, 106 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: you buy it there and it will help the Dave 107 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: Parker thirty nine Foundation in their mission to help defeat 108 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: Parkinson's which Dave has been battling here for the last 109 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: handfull of years. But let's get into it right now. 110 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: And I think we should start with this, Dave Parker 111 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: that recently we've seen a number of players of former players, 112 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: guys that you played with at the end of your 113 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: career who no longer are watching baseball, who are disgusted 114 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: with baseball. Gary Sheffield is one and David Wells is another. 115 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: Just at the top of my head here, But where 116 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: do you stand on that? Where are you at on 117 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: watching baseball? Do you still enjoy the game? Do you 118 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: still check out? Well, I'm watching it if I'm walking 119 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: through the house and happen to be on TVV. But 120 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: the game is too slow, They don't play small ball. 121 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: Guys are standing that to play taking the strikes, swinging 122 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: and balls and bob their head. They're not fundamentally sound, 123 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: and uh, it's hard to watch. Yeah, And I gotta 124 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: ask you, is a guy that played, you know, in 125 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: the for me the goal I grew up watching you 126 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: played there, so I loved I loved your your era 127 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: of baseball. But this ghost runner, right, they were an 128 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: extra inting So they just magically a runner pops up 129 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: on second base? Where are you on that? Pretty soon 130 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: they're gonna have robots pitching. You know, a weird thing. 131 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: I'm losing the rules. I don't even know the rules 132 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: are in baseball no more. You gotta guy running in Pennsylvania, 133 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: you know, if I know, like a pen Son, I 134 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: had to play the extra four or five years. Yeah, 135 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: it's pretty it's pretty crazy. If you were in charge 136 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: and Rob Manford and I do the overnight show here 137 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: at Fox, and I've taken my shots to the commissioner. 138 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: But if you were running baseball, David, you could you 139 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: could fix and tweak something in the sport of baseball. 140 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: What what would it be? What do you think baseball 141 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: needs that the commissioner could do? What they need to 142 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: promoted better? They need promoted better. And you don't have 143 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: any as African Americans in the game decentages like down 144 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: the seventh. Uh they need to promote the game more, 145 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: bring some new blood in. And they have this this broke. 146 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: Don't fix it. You know, ain't nothing wrong with baseball. 147 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: You throw it, I catch it, and you throwing it 148 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: out hit you know, and just keep it simple. Yeah, David, 149 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: you were, you know, one of the great African American 150 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: players in your day. But but baseball's they've they've had 151 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: these different campaigns to try to encourage uh more black 152 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: kids to play baseball. But it's it seems like basketball 153 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: and football for the last twenty or thirty years, everyone's 154 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: been gravitating to that. So I don't know what else 155 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: baseball can do. You know, It's it's an interesting dilemma, right, 156 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: I mean, if if kids don't want to play baseball, 157 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: you can't really force him, right, So what are they 158 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: supposed to do? It's an odd situation. Well, you know, 159 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: it's try to faults and to do it. But I mean, 160 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: you still got to promote it. You gotta. Basketball have 161 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: all these programs for youth during their All Star games, 162 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: and then they make a grandness to the kids baseball 163 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: could do the same thing. I'm not nothing a hook 164 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: with not fouls and players to do and just create 165 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: environment for them the I want to do it absolutely now. 166 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: When you played, you had you had swagger, You had 167 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: swagger to your to your your your game. There were 168 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: usually frowned upon. I know today in baseball one guys 169 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: like Fernando Tatis Jr. Who have that to their game, 170 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: there's still people call them out on it, like you're 171 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: not supposed to play baseball that way. When you were 172 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: playing back in the seventies and the eighties and the 173 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: end of the nineties, there were people. Do people give 174 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: you a hard time for the jewelry and all the 175 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: razmutazz that you brought. I got to hit fifty times 176 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: in twenty years, So when too many people won the 177 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: through me because I was a physical player and I 178 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: was intimidating and I had a situations would open McGuire 179 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: and got hit about three or four times in a week, 180 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: and uh put him to the side, And I said, 181 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: if you want to stop that, just run out there 182 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: one day and grab a guy in the college and 183 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: shaking for a second. And he did, and then you 184 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: get hit for the rest of the year. You know, 185 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: guys want to put on the show. Have some at 186 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: a possess to the game, be prepared to pay the price. 187 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: Bob Gibson would have probably unbroken about twelve thirteen ribs 188 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: by now. I've see these guys go up to line 189 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: thing that I'm looking for one to do a flip. 190 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: You know. It's a certain respect that's in baseball and 191 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: you gotta have it. Yeah, and we're talking with the 192 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: great Dave Parker. Obviously he's got a book out and 193 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk more about that in a couple of minutes. 194 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: Here Cobra A Life of Baseball and Brotherhood. It's available 195 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: wherever you get books, in Amazon, Walmart, Barnes and Noble, 196 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: all those locations where you you would get your books. 197 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: And we'll talk more about that. But Dave, you mentioned 198 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: the on field justice when you played, and you would 199 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: get drilled, and then they didn't do that too often 200 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: because you were a big holking guy and you could 201 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: rip their heads off. But baseball's try to get away 202 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: from that now. It's another one of those things that's 203 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: changed since you played, where they don't really want the 204 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: players to take care of the adjudication on the field, 205 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: and uh, you know what were the rules I guess 206 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: the unspoken rules when you were playing that you guys 207 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: followed to police the game when you were playing well, 208 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: and to for two you hit one of mine when 209 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: we hit two years. You know that's that's that's the 210 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: way that a lot of guys dealt with it. But 211 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: I mean you sure enough respect You know, I had 212 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: a whole run truck where I had my fingers down 213 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: and I ran real slow, but uh, it was done 214 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: in a respectful way. And I don't think God will 215 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: offend him by and none of the guys took pride 216 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: and and taking deep one of my best friends then 217 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: in secondsly I got him about six or seven times, 218 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: and he had come and tell you a story about 219 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: what what he thought when it was going over the fence. 220 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 1: You know, it's a certain way that you can do 221 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: that without showing up the player. Yeah. Well, now, obviously 222 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: we live in the social media age, Dave. Everything's about Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, 223 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: all that stuff. How would how would a young Dave 224 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: Parker when you were just mashing the baseball with the pirates, 225 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: how would you have been on social media in your 226 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: in your prime. I was a boy accepted because I 227 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: had a little pas working. I used to make a 228 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: rhymes and till you know, when the needs turned brown, 229 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: I'll be wearing the vetting crown. And I had another 230 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: one that I used on on Sundays was there's only 231 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: three things for sure, the day and the sun and 232 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: the winds don't blow and big days gonna go for 233 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: for four. You were like the poet laureate. They didn't. 234 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: I was talking to one of my buddies and we 235 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: were talking about you back in the day, and then 236 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: you have a wasn't there some line you like? Mommy 237 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: said there would be Daves like this, right? I mean 238 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: you you were you were a poet in your day. 239 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: Dave with the we were imperfect for Twitter would have 240 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: been perfect, you know they called me in baseball. The 241 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: one about Mama said every days like this was when 242 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: me and Winfield was playing together and and I had 243 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: so u. I just put together things that fit the club, 244 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: that fit the individual. Be sure to catch live editions 245 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern 246 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: eleven pm Pacific. Be sure to catch live editions of 247 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven 248 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: pm Pacife on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart 249 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: Radio app Dave. What do you miss most about the 250 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: game nowadays? And obviously there's a change in saber mention 251 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: and analytics and things like that, But what do you 252 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: miss about what it was compared to what it is now? 253 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: Just the guys are not fundamentally sound, you know, and 254 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: you're making three hundred million a year, which I believe 255 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: in whatever the market or bear. But you know, the 256 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: older in the game, some some play. You know, you 257 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: gotta be fundamentally and sound and lease, you know, hustle 258 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: a little bit and leave your feet. You know, you 259 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: don't see that. And so the money that they're they're 260 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: getting paid, you can request some of that and maybe 261 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: get it. Any guys that played today that remind you 262 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: of how the game was played back in the day. 263 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: I like Tatis. I think that's the kid's name in 264 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: San Diego. I like his style. You know, he puts 265 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: himself on the line and he's got flash and then 266 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: he hustles put team on his back and we don't 267 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: have to many players es capable of doing and today, 268 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: I mean he's certainly a figure in San Diego. What 269 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: about Nanaheim with Shoo Tani, What do you think about him? 270 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: I don't know much about him fair enough. Um, you know, Dave, 271 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: with with the way that things have been progressive with 272 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, you mentioned a guy like Fernano Tattoos Jr. 273 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: And And marketing the game. What kind of steps would 274 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: you take to get these guys out there? I mean, 275 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: Mike Trout, for all intensive purposes, is the best player 276 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball right now, but doesn't have the personality, 277 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: doesn't have the chrisma, and he can't force the guy. 278 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: So who else would you go up there with and say, hey, 279 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: we need to market you a little bit more outside 280 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: of a guy like Tatis or maybe Mookie Betts. Well, 281 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure is that more than one star? So you know, 282 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: you tell you, as a managine you star and tell 283 00:16:55,960 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: them what you expect and uh, they should be able 284 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: to do that. We know, no problem at all. Yeah, Dave, 285 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: your your book. Let's talk about that now. The Cobra, 286 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: that's why you're here. Cobra A Life of Baseball and Brotherhood, 287 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: as we mentioned, is available now wherever you get your books. 288 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: That just came out here in the month of April, 289 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: so it's a brand new books. You can be one 290 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: of the first people to check it out. I know, 291 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: for guys like me, listen, I I grew up watching 292 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: to play day. I want to. I want to hear 293 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: all about you and read all about you. And I've 294 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: actually read some of the book already. But for the 295 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: person listening, let's say the younger person, the gen Z 296 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: person that doesn't know Dave Parker, that didn't watch you 297 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: play with the swagger back in your day. Why should 298 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: someone who's in that category by this book, Dave? Well, there, 299 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: we've probably heard of me. If I hadn't seen me play, 300 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: and I interviewing the individual, then UM have a request 301 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: for the game. Somebody that played hard. I never ran out. 302 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: I always ran out my ground balls regards and when 303 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: he was hit, and I always played at a hundred. 304 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: I was physical, I was colorful. I was a fun 305 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: to watch. Now you were, and I I understand this 306 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: book is geared more to an adult towards an adult audience. 307 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: Right you you as you met you? I mean, you 308 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: played in a wild era before social media, when you 309 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: could you know, guys could get away with more stuff 310 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: back in the seventies in the eighties. So how saucy 311 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: do we get in this book? Are we gonna hear 312 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: about the partying and all that you know back in 313 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: the pirate days and whatnot? How how deep do we 314 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: get in this book? Dave? It gets pretty deep. I 315 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: tell people, you know, some curse words in here. You 316 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: might not want to care to read it, you know, 317 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: but it gets pretty deep. I was one of the 318 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: guys that wouldn't missed a good party. And when congregate 319 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: with my teammates, we'll go out to dinner and twelve 320 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: thirteen of us and we go to a nightclub back rooms, 321 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: so we, uh did all the fun stuff too. Yeah. So, 322 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: and baseball in those days, they've they've attempted to, I 323 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: guess clean it up and all that. But you played, 324 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: as I said, in the seventies and the stories about 325 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: greenies and whatnot in the locker room and just the 326 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: wildness in the parts. And then you played into the 327 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: eighties and the you know, the beginning of the steroid era. 328 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: Uh did you ever dabble in in that day when 329 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: you were playing or did you avoid that? You played 330 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: with the A's and McGuire and Conseco were there. So 331 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: how tempting was it if you didn't do it? No, 332 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: that wasn't tempting at all. You know, steroids slink to 333 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: human body, and I'm not one to try to slink. 334 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: I'm kind of add on uh STIs never did uh 335 00:19:55,640 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: attract me? Absolutely? You you told interesting story wrong with 336 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: my buddy sports with Coleman, and I had not heard this. 337 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: I've always known I have one of the great nicknames 338 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: in sports in the Cobra. And and what is the 339 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: origin of that? For the for the guys listening that 340 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: haven't heard you tell the story before? Who gave you 341 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: the nickname? And it's a great nickname, one of the 342 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: greats in sports. But who gave you the nickname the Cobra? 343 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: Trainer Tony brought a rome was a big boxing sing 344 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: and we had a fighter in Cincinnati called the Cincinnati Cobra. 345 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: His name was Es Shaul and he was the heavyweight champ. 346 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: And Tony associated me man Cincinnati and gave me the 347 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: title the Cobra, and Bob Prince made it famous are announcing. 348 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: So it came from a trainer. It's good nickname that trainer, 349 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: whoever that is that, I got a good job by him. 350 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: I saw in the book here there's a quote from 351 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,239 Speaker 1: Keith Hernandez, who played it against you and now as 352 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: a Mets broadcaster, and he said of you that for 353 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: a that period of time, he he meeting you, Dave Parker, 354 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: the greatest player of my generation. That's a tremendous compliment 355 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: by Keith Hernandez. And I mean you were a wonderful day. 356 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: I mean, where do you put yourself, David, that in 357 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: that seventies early eighties window, I was the best player 358 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: from mid seventies, say heyy and uh from eighty four two, 359 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: I mean coming out of Oakland, Um, it was Milwaukee. 360 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: I was the best player for about ten of those 361 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: two years, Dave. Statistically speaking, your eight five campaign with Cincinnati, 362 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: you had thirty four home runs, drove in a hundred 363 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: and batted over three. That says a lot obviously in 364 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: the middle of your career. But where did you find, 365 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: I guess, the most comfort in your career. Did you 366 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: enjoyed Pittsburgh more than Cincinnati or Milwaukee or Oakland? Well, 367 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: I enjoyed Pittsburgh because they gave me an opportunity to 368 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: play and started was like a father, big brother talk 369 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: Ellis was like a brother, and we just had guys 370 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: Bill mad Lock guys that was great guys that play 371 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: with and organization was was great to play for at 372 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: a time. But I kind of overstayed my welcome and 373 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: uh ran into some problems with the fans for a 374 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: period of time. Did you get that sense that you 375 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: were overstaying you're welcome or is that something that was 376 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: hinted by somebody else. No, it's just uh when when 377 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: your fans thought, falling stuff and yelling stuff from the fans, 378 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: I mean from the stands and gets to the point 379 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: where maybe it's time to do something else. Was there? Wait? Wait, wait, 380 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: what were they thrown at you when you What was 381 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: the craziest thing that got thrown at you when you 382 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: were playing in those ear? In that ear that that 383 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: happened a lot, right? And what kind of projectiles were 384 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: flying down when you were out in the field. Well, 385 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: we had one of the strangest things with a sock 386 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: full of nuts and boats. It was a sock that 387 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: had nuts and boats and and somebody threw it out 388 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: the right field and I heard a chink, and I 389 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: want to see what it was, And that's what it was. 390 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: Some nuts and boats. What's so, was it worse in 391 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh or worse in Philadelphia? It was in Pittsburgh, Philadelphia 392 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: through a battery. I mean somebody in Pittsburgh through a battery. 393 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: So I had two batteries and a sock full of 394 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: nuts and boats. That's crazy, Dave. Well, what about the 395 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame? Obviously you didn't get voted in by 396 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: the writers. You're still eligible through the Veterans Committee. Do 397 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: you do you think you've been ostracized day because of 398 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: some of the stuff that happened in Pittsburgh where they 399 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: just won't put you any get your numbers. As you said, 400 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: you for for a period of years were the top 401 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: player in baseball. You wont an m v P award. 402 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: Like to me, the criteria for a Hall of Famer, 403 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: you meet the criteria. You're you were an m v P. 404 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: I'm not sucking up your day, but you were seven 405 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: time All Star. You won the World Series a couple 406 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,719 Speaker 1: of times. Really bookaded right ten years apart, I think 407 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: it was you won the World Series. So what do 408 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: you think it is? Day? What do you think is 409 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: going on here where they you just you could not 410 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: carry enough support to get into Cooper's time. We had 411 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: to ask the committee as a Hall of Fame because 412 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: you couldn't do no more than I did. And if 413 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: you got drives better than me and hall of fame, 414 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: you know, I'd like to see him match the numbers 415 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: and get somebody to tell me that you better than me, 416 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: because I know I was best player in baseball about 417 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: ten of those twenty years I was in bold And 418 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: I was gonna say with with that, with what Ben 419 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: brought up, Dave mc Kurt Schilling is a guy that 420 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: we bring up it feels like annually right now, and 421 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: the biggest reason for that is because there's there's thoughts 422 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: that he is getting blackballed by the writers because of 423 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: his political allegiance. Um, do you think a guy like 424 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: that has hurt himself from getting into the Hall of 425 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: Fame because of how outspoken he is? And it kind 426 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: of goes away from the writers. When are you telling you, 427 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: you know, way from your personality. That's his personality. Kard 428 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: loved to put himself on the line, so I even 429 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: knew him. He was writing messages on balls and rolling 430 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: them across Philadelphia's ball park to the bad Boy and 431 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: sending me messages and I never faced the kid. It wait, 432 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: what kind of messing? Just this stuff? I watched you 433 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: play Tame way to get you out? You know stuff 434 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: like that. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, So what what about 435 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 1: let's go back to you, I mean the dark Pard. 436 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure you you mentioned this in the book here 437 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh days and there was the famous incident the 438 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: drug trials that took place. What you know, what was 439 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: that like going through that? How how scared were you? 440 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: How how nervous were you? And kind of paint the 441 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: picture for those that don't recall, like you know, that 442 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: whole era and what that was like going through as 443 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: you you know, being a star player in baseball and 444 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: being dragged into a courtroom when they was after the 445 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: big name players. You know that that that was what 446 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: they were seeking. And uh, they changed their direction and 447 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: gave us immunity and they had the big trial in 448 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: Ainty side. I didn't know more than anybody else and 449 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: and ned knowing that time you had lawyers doing and teaches, 450 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: other athletes, general managers. Uh, because everybody in society was 451 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: doing it. I thought it was a fair you know, 452 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: I thought it would go away after a few years 453 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: and grabbed the hold to a lot of players and 454 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: they can handle them and and merit them having some problems. Yeah. Absolutely. 455 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: And I want to circle back to the to the 456 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: money thing, and you were the first million dollar a 457 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: year guy. I remember that that story when they you 458 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: got the big contract, and to think like people were 459 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: upset with you, Dave, right because you were the million 460 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: dollar guy. And now as we talked about Mike Trout's 461 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: got a four million dollar deal, Mookie Bets is a 462 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: three sixty. Uh So, what I want to ask you 463 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: here is, and I know you're very confident man, Dave Parker, 464 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: but if you were playing today, if a prime m 465 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: VP vintage Dave Parker was playing today, how much money 466 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: would you get on your contract? Would you three hundred 467 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: four hundred? Where would you be, Dave park I'm gonna 468 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: pick out the nice city. I don't know, San Diego, 469 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: San Diego. How big a contract are we talking about 470 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: for you? If you if you could transport what you 471 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: were in nineteen seventy nine, that era, and then, how 472 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: how much money would you be getting right now? If 473 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: somebody's making four I gotta make fast. I like it. 474 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: There you go see that you got. You gotta go 475 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: higher than Mike trapping. Mike's making four thirty on the 476 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: on the contractor you gonna go higher than that. You 477 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: played with the Cincinnati Reds. Pete Rose was a teammate. 478 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: He was your manager in in Cincinnati there also for 479 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: for a few years. What was he like? I mean, 480 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: we've heard stories about you competed against him for a 481 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: long period of your career, you played with him. What 482 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: was Pete Rose like? Behind the scenes, it was what 483 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: you What you see is what you get. And when 484 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: Pete did everything like Charlie hustle and Wade running, the 485 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: first face was just then it's Pete Rose. I enjoyed 486 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: playing against him, and it was even the bigger three 487 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: of playing with him because I've watched him every day 488 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: in his latter years, played the game in the same 489 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: way then when he first got to the big league. 490 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: So he was the thrill of the play with Dave, 491 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: who was the toughest picture. He went up against Steve Carlton. 492 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: He uh had a slatter that he started to nod 493 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: the played out and it would break over another baddest 494 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: box and I would He punched me out about three 495 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: times a game. But we had a funny stat going. 496 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: Steve struck me out more than any picture I ever faced, 497 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: and I hit more home runs off of him than 498 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,239 Speaker 1: any picture I ever faced. So that's weird stat. At 499 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: least it's not one dimensional like it was with Greg 500 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: Maddox and Tony going back in the day. Yeah, absolutely, 501 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: id I was surprised that he was so great because 502 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: he had medium philosophy and he came up with the 503 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: fastball that he would run back over the plate When 504 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: I got in the MAGA League and I'm looking at 505 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: the the standings and he would be nothing off twenty 506 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: wins he or he's almost zero. He turned out to 507 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: be one of the greatest pitches of all time. You 508 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: mentioned you're obviously known as a guy that enjoyed a 509 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: good party, and you played in a great era for that. 510 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: Who is the teammate that you were with that could 511 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: match you party for party. Who was the wildest party 512 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: animal teammate he had back in those days. Doc Ellis 513 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: was a flambornet guy and uh a ladies man. Doc 514 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: was a guy that could run with me, and did 515 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: he not. The famous story about Doc Ellis is that 516 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: he supposedly pitched I use on LSD or something like that. 517 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: He pitched a no hitter. Uh, that's what he'd say. 518 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: That the stories about that. He said he wasn't aware 519 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: of him pitching the note head and to the seventh center, 520 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: but he said it's true. He got to know hitter. 521 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: That's pretty crazy, dropping some acid, throwing a no hitter, 522 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: that's that's right up there. That's right. One of the 523 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: greatest things he did. I think the Cincinnati knocked us 524 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,479 Speaker 1: out of the playoffs like two years in a row. 525 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: And Doctor came, he's gonna start the season and he said, 526 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: you guys stared at the red and uh. He said, 527 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna hit 528 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: everybody come to the plate. And I said, you ain't 529 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: gonna do nothing. He said, I'm hetting everybody come to 530 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,959 Speaker 1: the plate. Well, heat, everybody came to the plate. They 531 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: took him out and against Tony Freas and was hid 532 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: fifth that day. But he hid the first hit, the second, 533 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: third in the forfeit and missed the fifth. Said, and 534 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: that was Johnny Bench. But he's a man of his words. 535 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: There you go, you see you say you're gonna do something. 536 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: Dave you gotta do it. That are talking at gascon 537 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: over here now, you Dave, but very important Now. Uh. Meanwhile, 538 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: you played at the end, near the end of your 539 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: career with the A's some tremendus tremendous teams and talent 540 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: wise in Oakland has one championship. But Tony Russo was 541 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: your manager and he's back, Dave. He's managing the Chicago 542 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: White Sox. Now when you saw that, like, what were 543 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: you vacant? I got what went through your mind when 544 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: you saw Tony LaRusso returning to baseball at at his 545 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: you know, at his age he's been out for a 546 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: while managing the White Sox. Well, he's a good manager. 547 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: He uh could have handled that, I don't think and 548 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: be putting an interfuestion on him because he's not one 549 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: maybe three World Series and uh he's the most prepared 550 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: manager I ever played for because he thoughts to every eye, 551 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: crosses every team. So uh he even been falified to 552 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: have a good team play to stop. Yeah, you know 553 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: you've been very open, Dave. I'm gonna, you know, kind 554 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: of wrap this up a little bit. But you've got 555 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,719 Speaker 1: the book out again and you go into great detail 556 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: about your your day's designed more for an adult, yes, 557 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: because it's some language and whatnot. If you're the kids 558 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: today though they speak all kinds of language. But cobra 559 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 1: a life of baseball and brotherhood. And you've been very 560 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: open about your health, David, your fight against Parkinson's and 561 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: and how is your health today? How are you doing 562 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: these days? I'm doing. I have good days, bad days. 563 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: And some days you go out and you feel like 564 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: you do normally. In other days you go out and 565 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: your nags ain't working properly. Uh, you just saw moving 566 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: as as fluent as as I should. But uh, I 567 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: got to play the hand. That's dealt you know, this 568 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: is what I gotta deal with. This is what I'm 569 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: dealing with. Yeah, I heard the story. You you were 570 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: just going for your regular physical and then you know, 571 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: you didn't realize you had this right, and then the 572 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: doctor kind of noticed there was something awful a little bit. 573 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 1: And that's how you found out, is that correct? Right? 574 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: I had? My hand was tremdling. I didn't even notice 575 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: it until you pointed it out to my attention. And 576 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,479 Speaker 1: I you said, then, like you might have a little 577 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: touch of Parkerson, And uh, that's how I found out 578 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: interesting and yeah, go ahead. I dealt with it. In 579 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: the early stages, I thought I was gonna beat it. 580 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: But partisan is non altared. My life mainchanged everything slowed 581 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: everything down. So it's something. And uh, I'm got my 582 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: foundation while I'm raising money to for research, and uh 583 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 1: that's been basically what I've been doing, is trying to 584 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: raise uh the money for research and see if we 585 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: can bite to staying in. But absolutely that's a great cause. 586 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: In fact, you know, a bad job by me, Dave. 587 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: I was promoting Amazon and Walmart and all that. But 588 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: if you buy the book from and I think this 589 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: is still going on, Dave, I read this on your website. 590 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 1: Dave Parker thirty nine Foundation dot com is the website. 591 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: So if you're interested in buying this book, uh, you 592 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: should go to Dave Parker thirty nine Foundation dot com 593 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: because according to what I read here, Dave, every copy 594 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: sold via that website, your website there benefits the Dave 595 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: Parker thirty nine Foundation and your mission to help defeat 596 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: Parking sins. And again, the name of the book, Cobra, 597 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: A Life of Baseball and Brotherhood, just came out here 598 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: at the beginning of April, so it's a fresh book. 599 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: And if you're like me and you appreciated Dave Parker 600 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: playing for the for the Pirates and the Reds. And 601 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: I saw it at the end with the Angels when 602 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: I was and I was a young pup going out 603 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: watching you and Winfield with the Angels there, and I loved, damn. 604 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: I love the sledge hammer that you had in the 605 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: on deck circle. That was that was my favor. I 606 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: was like, I want as a kid, I was like, 607 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: I can't believe it. This guy's like a superhero. He's 608 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: swinging a sledge hammer in the on deck So it 609 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: was awesome and uh and love it. And listen continued 610 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: to you know, good good health to you, keep fighting 611 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: the fight there, good luck with the book, and we 612 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: thank you for spending some time with Thank you, Dave, 613 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: thank you, thanks for the book. Be sure to catch 614 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two 615 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: am Eastern eleven pm Paci Effect. 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