Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal ll that for me.
Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say,
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Speaker 2: Whenever blue tear drops or falling and my emotional stability
Speaker 2: is leaving me, there's something I can do. I can
Speaker 2: get on the telephone, Tie and call you up.
Speaker 1: Now. I thought you were doing song lyrics there, but
Speaker 1: then I it just it registered that call you up,
Speaker 1: Tie is not something that Taylor Swift song lyrics.
Speaker 2: No, it's song lyrics. I hesitate to go any further
Speaker 2: because it gets it's to a weird space because those
Speaker 2: are lyrics from Sexual Healing by mih Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's different.
Speaker 2: But I was just I was listening to the the
Speaker 2: A Brass Band, I think it's the Hot eight Brass Band,
Speaker 2: and they do their own version, that New Orleans version
Speaker 2: of sexual Healing, and it you know the solid toddler's
Speaker 2: getting into the tuba because it's in one of his books.
Speaker 2: There's somebody playing a tuba, and so I played him
Speaker 2: that song because of course that's a song you play
Speaker 2: your toddler with the tuba New Orleans version of sexual Healing.
Speaker 2: So I just listened to it, and it's fantastic.
Speaker 1: Tight. It's a great day to be behind a microphone.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna be a Are you gonna be a tuba?
Speaker 2: Dad?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: But he he responding, He is responding well enough to that,
Speaker 2: like bomb boom, Mike. I'm a bass guitar at a
Speaker 2: certain point, Okay, let down that low end.
Speaker 1: Maybe you're with a guitar. You're saying that it's great
Speaker 1: that you like the tuba and that your musically inclined son. Yes,
Speaker 1: need a little bit more edge out of you. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go bass guitar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, lay down a little bit of funk.
Speaker 2: I might have to have another kid tie just so
Speaker 2: I can get some percussion going, just to start a
Speaker 2: family band.
Speaker 1: To start the family band, Yeah, that seems like the move. Well, hello,
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Speaker 1: might work. But it just might work, Dan, What what
Speaker 1: what are we talking about here? What just so might work?
Speaker 2: So there's I'm trying to draw a line between Obviously
Speaker 2: we love the phrase hot takes, that's been around for
Speaker 2: a long time, but that's more about Here is something controversial.
Speaker 2: Here is something that is out of left field in
Speaker 2: a way that I'm trying to stir the pot in
Speaker 2: a delightfully evil way. This is not a hot take show.
Speaker 2: Sometimes we do hot take show This is not that show.
Speaker 2: I had a prompt for fans to be homers and
Speaker 2: to give me something outlandish, preposterous about their team that
Speaker 2: only a homer could provide. Either positive. It's mostly positive,
Speaker 2: Like you know, my team's can go eleven and one,
Speaker 2: we're gonna make the playoffs, and we've got a lot
Speaker 2: of that. That's fine, but we do have some some
Speaker 2: negative nancies out there, which is all the same. Homers
Speaker 2: can be harder on their own team, like you are
Speaker 2: harder on Notre Dame. Perhaps in the average Notre Dame fan.
Speaker 2: I am harder perhaps on Oregon, the average Oregon fan,
Speaker 2: just because we try to look at things in a
Speaker 2: more holistic We try more holistic viewpoints, and we never
Speaker 2: want to get ahead over our skis. So we asked
Speaker 2: for this on both Twitter and Instagram. I believe we've
Speaker 2: got a ton of responses, a bunch of email, and
Speaker 2: so we're going to go through this. And even though
Speaker 2: it's not a hot take, I sent you the Scoville
Speaker 2: heat unit scale of peppers. You should have the spicy
Speaker 2: sound available to you. I do have it your soundboard. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So the twenty fourth this is according to masterclass dot
Speaker 2: com I don't know who's teaching this masterclass, but the
Speaker 2: twenty fourth most spicy, the hottest, the twenty fourth with
Speaker 2: zero Scoville heat units is a bell pepper, your standard
Speaker 2: bell pepper, red, green, yellow, orange, what have you? And
Speaker 2: short of pure capsaicin, which is the chemical that provides
Speaker 2: spice in pepper's that's found in the seeds, the Carolina
Speaker 2: Reaper at two point two million Scoville heat units is
Speaker 2: the possible, the highest possible in terms of spice. Jlapano's
Speaker 2: at ten thousand, Carolina Reaper at two point two million.
Speaker 2: So we are going to go through this listing of
Speaker 2: preposterous outlandish homer feelings about the teams we have. We
Speaker 2: actually have a Homer sound somewhere, don't we When we
Speaker 2: did our like only homer is allowed serious. That's somewhere
Speaker 2: I could try concert one, Okay, But we have a
Speaker 2: document with all sorts of preposterous outlandish feelings. And news wise,
Speaker 2: the only breaking news I've seen recently is that Illinois
Speaker 2: and Nebraska are no longer playing in Dublin. They are
Speaker 2: going to be playing in Champagne.
Speaker 1: And we just made fun of that game, didn't we.
Speaker 1: We said it was a classic Irish man.
Speaker 2: Classic Irish premium European city moved back to a premium
Speaker 2: eastern central Illinois city. So take that. Danville, Illinois Champagne
Speaker 2: has this one.
Speaker 1: So okay, again, we're talking about things that are so crazy.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're good enough to work, maybe not. We will
Speaker 1: be grading them on a spiciness scale. Yeah, correct thing.
Speaker 1: Do you want to start off with one of your own?
Speaker 2: Sure, give me one of your Oregon You want me
Speaker 2: to talk about Mike Oregon. Yes, preposterous, outlandish thing. Oregon's
Speaker 2: going to go eight in four, which is a pretty
Speaker 2: big step back. I don't think they're going to miss
Speaker 2: a bowl game. It seems outlandish to say, because they've
Speaker 2: been putting together pretty crazy impressive recruiting classes. But quarterback
Speaker 2: has unsettled enough working in a new defensive coordinator. The
Speaker 2: offensive line was somewhat shaky at times last year, and
Speaker 2: it's hard to look too far into twenty twenty results
Speaker 2: and trends, but I'm down right now on Oregon's chances
Speaker 2: of repeating and winning the Pac Twelve for a third
Speaker 2: consecutive season. So with Ohio State in the non conference,
Speaker 2: some tough road games, it's not fully preposterous, outlandish, but
Speaker 2: I could see things going kind of haywire this year
Speaker 2: as things sort of point to twenty twenty two for Oregon.
Speaker 1: Okay, eight and four, I mean it's hard to get
Speaker 1: too high up on that Scoville heat index.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's not too spicy with.
Speaker 1: Eight and four. What if I told you Notre Dame
Speaker 1: is going to go eleven to one? Okay, I mean
Speaker 1: they just went undefeated, right, they just went undefeated. A
Speaker 1: lot of turnover though, and obviously Jack Collin leads them
Speaker 1: to an eleven to one record. I don't see. Here's
Speaker 1: the thing. I looked over the roster and I feel
Speaker 1: like they're okay in the line. I feel like they
Speaker 1: found their running back in Kiren Willyiams. I feel like
Speaker 1: receiver has to get better again. Some turnover on defense
Speaker 1: that is problematic, But I feel like they've recruited pretty well.
Speaker 1: Like the schedule is very workable. As we said, a
Speaker 1: couple of shows ago at Florida State to open the
Speaker 1: year will be a challenge. Tough to go to Tallahassee.
Speaker 1: They've got a neutral site game in Chicago, so maybe
Speaker 1: you'll go to this one against Wisconsin end of September,
Speaker 1: they're at Virginia Tech. They've obviously got the USC game,
Speaker 1: They've got Sam Hall in North Carolina. But there's no
Speaker 1: like Clemson on this ruck.
Speaker 2: Give me a preposterous direction, though, because this and I
Speaker 2: understand that Oregon was downsort of this year and won
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve. But is Notre Dame going to? Which
Speaker 2: direction do they dramatically move in? Are they getting over
Speaker 2: a playoff hump or are they going nowhere near the playoffs?
Speaker 2: What is more likely?
Speaker 1: In your view?
Speaker 2: Well, there goes some foam off my walls in an
Speaker 2: outlandish direction.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's a good question. I think it's
Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm sticking to my guns here, I
Speaker 1: say eleven and one and not looking anywhere good enough
Speaker 1: to be in the playoff.
Speaker 2: I think it goes the other way. I think I mean,
Speaker 2: just in I think Notre Dame could also go eight
Speaker 2: in four.
Speaker 1: Oh for sure. I think that's more likely. And I
Speaker 1: think I think in terms of your your heat index,
Speaker 1: this is definitely spicier than we're can go to eight
Speaker 1: in four because Notre Dame does have turnover and I
Speaker 1: don't think it's that widely assumed that they're going to
Speaker 1: win eleven games this coming year.
Speaker 2: Here here are the list of teams that I think
Speaker 2: it's realistic that they're competitive with Notre Dame because they've
Speaker 2: improved this year with the benefit of a fuller but
Speaker 2: certainly not full off season. Spring football is going to
Speaker 2: be different, summer workouts different, and hopefully fall camp is
Speaker 2: something familiar. But Florida State, Wisconsin, Cincinnati, Virginia Tech.
Speaker 1: We'll see.
Speaker 2: With Virginia Tech, it's a proximer promiser team USC North Carolina, Navy, Virginia,
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech. I don't think Stanford is realistically improving to
Speaker 2: any Georgie dramatic competitive place. That's a good number of
Speaker 2: teams who could give a greener Notre Dame team trouble, right,
Speaker 2: Keaton Slovas, Sam Howell, Grammarts, Mackenzie Milton to come on,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Think four is more.
Speaker 2: I think a four is more likely than playoff flirtation
Speaker 2: by a considerable margin.
Speaker 1: For it's definitely more likely. Yeah, And all I'm saying
Speaker 1: is I could see him going eleven to one and
Speaker 1: not really looking the part. But I think the schedule's work.
Speaker 1: So you pick your year. Yeah, that's my that's my prediction,
Speaker 1: my outlining, avishly spicy claim eleven to one not okay,
Speaker 1: So I'm going to give you like eight times before
Speaker 1: the start of the year, but at time of recording
Speaker 1: here mid February, I'll go to I'll go with that one.
Speaker 2: I think we're in the eight thousand Chipotle Wahio range wise. Okay,
Speaker 2: so we're not there, not a lot of spice to
Speaker 2: what we've been talking about with our teams. Should we
Speaker 2: go to some listeners, please?
Speaker 1: Okay? I love this one.
Speaker 2: The Miami Hurricanes will lose only one regular season game
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. They will run the vast majority
Speaker 2: of their starters. They returned Derek King, the entire offensive line,
Speaker 2: pay no attention to what the offensive line is able
Speaker 2: to do most of the defense, and everyone on offense
Speaker 2: outside of Brevn Jordan was very good at tight end.
Speaker 2: Manny keeps winning the off season, we'll have to translate
Speaker 2: to wins. So it's from Orrin Greno Miami eleven and one.
Speaker 2: You don't even really need to look at their schedule
Speaker 2: because then we're just getting too far in the way
Speaker 2: of talking about Notre Dame. In the way we looked
Speaker 2: at their schedule, but Miami, do you when you watch
Speaker 2: them near the end of last year, We're like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this team is pretty close to putting it all together,
Speaker 2: and they can with a couple of breaks, they're gonna
Speaker 2: have a crazy good season.
Speaker 1: Wow, he's saying one loss. Huh. Yeah, that's spicy. It's
Speaker 1: getting hot in here.
Speaker 2: I think there's too many questions, but I in terms
Speaker 2: of spice and how much I would love to taste it.
Speaker 2: They opened with Alabama, to be clear. Otherwise I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna go through game by game. Not a lot of
Speaker 2: obvious killers.
Speaker 1: On this schedule.
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm gonna say it's spicy.
Speaker 1: But you can eat it.
Speaker 2: You you'll you'll sleep, You'll be okay in the morning.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say it's a Serrano twenty three thousand
Speaker 2: Scoville heat units.
Speaker 1: Twenty three thousand school heat.
Speaker 2: It's twenty number seventeen of twenty four on this list.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go Santaka Dan, which is a bit
Speaker 1: oh fifty thousand Scoville heat units, tied with Tabasco. There
Speaker 1: we go.
Speaker 2: It looks like it's a Japanese pepper. The Santaka Santa.
Speaker 2: I mean it sounds Japanese.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, I mean I think you're right about that,
Speaker 1: But they're there are also some land mines on this schedule.
Speaker 1: Open the year neutral cider, like you said, against Alabama,
Speaker 1: there's a road tilt at North Carolina. North Carolina loses
Speaker 1: a ton, but they still have Sam Howell, so I'm
Speaker 1: I'm hesitant to really pencil that one in as a win.
Speaker 1: They're at Pitt, which weird things happen at Pitt, They're
Speaker 1: at Florida State, and they've got Virginia Tech. So the
Speaker 1: back half of their schedule it toughens up. Really. In
Speaker 1: the beginning part of the year, it's just Alabama and
Speaker 1: you know, well, I guess Michigan State and Apps date.
Speaker 1: But it still feels like the latter half is where
Speaker 1: the land mines are. So I don't see eleven and one.
Speaker 1: I think that's a very spicy take, but I appreciate
Speaker 1: the optimism.
Speaker 2: Let's say, with what and we don't need to go
Speaker 2: game by game again, this is not the point of
Speaker 2: this exercise, but let's say Miami comes very close to
Speaker 2: fulfilling its potential in terms of talent level and in
Speaker 2: terms of the sum being greater than its parts injury.
Speaker 1: Luck perhaps.
Speaker 2: You could see eleven and one like that is with
Speaker 2: that is if you're looking in binoculars and I.
Speaker 1: Could see it. Yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are a number of teams on this schedule
Speaker 2: with clear bright flaws. I can see it in the
Speaker 2: horizon tie. I can definitely see it, which is why
Speaker 2: I only went with Serrano. But I appreciate your Santaka.
Speaker 1: I just Miami's in that category with Texas where it's
Speaker 1: like we're don't hold your breath waiting for them to
Speaker 1: get quote unquote back because it never seems to happen.
Speaker 1: So I will believe this one. When I say I'm
Speaker 1: rooting for this, by the way, I really am, because
Speaker 1: I think the ACC needs more competition to make you
Speaker 1: more ancisse. Yeah, but I just ooh, eleven and one.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, the pieces they lose on defense, it's not
Speaker 2: my favorite. Well two hots, those ends really, I mean
Speaker 2: they've recruited well, but those.
Speaker 1: Defensive ends were special. If they go eleven and one,
Speaker 1: Deerik King's probably one of the Heisman and it.
Speaker 2: Probably means he has the best surgeon America. Well, I
Speaker 2: don't know if it was doctor James Andrews, but it's
Speaker 2: going to take a minute, I think for him to
Speaker 2: really feel comfortable and get back to his playmaking self. Next,
Speaker 2: you want to go to the next spice level.
Speaker 1: Eric, Eric, Yeah, the Washington Huskies will win the Pac twelve,
Speaker 1: go to the Rose Bowl. They have the best defense
Speaker 1: in the conference. They would have beaten Oregon last year
Speaker 1: if COVID had not canceled the game. And they are
Speaker 1: getting their five star Heward in to start at quarterback
Speaker 1: to help raise the offense. So, okay, this is putting
Speaker 1: a lot of faith in Jimmy Lake, right. We didn't
Speaker 1: see a full season out of Jimmy Lake.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the defensive coordinator Bob Gregory from an internal hire.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's a lot of new there. You know,
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve better than any Buddy Dan? Yeah?
Speaker 2: What is the ayah?
Speaker 1: What is maybe not better than Yogi Roth, but everybody else.
Speaker 1: You're up there? Sure? What is the landscape just in
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve North? Is it conducive to the Husky's
Speaker 1: going on a run like this? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well, here here's who the Huskies have at home in
Speaker 2: the North Oregon. Washington State, cal They've got the threats
Speaker 2: al all at Husky Stadium. It's an amazing schedule for Washington.
Speaker 2: Now they mentioned are the Eric mentions, it's Sam Heward.
Speaker 2: It's a lot to depend on a true freshman. Dylan
Speaker 2: Morris was okay, But again, where are the threats coming
Speaker 2: from in the conference?
Speaker 1: Right now?
Speaker 2: The schedule is incredible. It's Colorado, Oregon State, Stanford, Arizona
Speaker 2: on the road, and they have Michigan in the non conference.
Speaker 2: They're they're coming to the Midwest to ann Arbor, but
Speaker 2: just feels within. I don't even think it's that spicy.
Speaker 2: Washington's defense should be good. They developed a couple of
Speaker 2: really interesting pass rushers. They've got a great secondary really
Speaker 2: like I think it's Trent McDuffie just should be a
Speaker 2: first round talent. Elijah Moulden's all over the place, So
Speaker 2: definite talent on that team. And my problem with Washington
Speaker 2: is they definitely don't have Winter Wonders. They don't definitely
Speaker 2: don't have game changes at receiver and running back to me,
Speaker 2: so I think there is a lower B plus level cap.
Speaker 2: But I think Washington State just suspended Jaden Dolaura. I
Speaker 2: mean they brought in a transfer, and I just I
Speaker 2: Washington set up nicely to win the North, and I
Speaker 2: think the North largely just wins the conference. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I actually think it's like a holapeno take. I don't
Speaker 2: think it's that spicy. Washington should be pretty good in
Speaker 2: a conference that doesn't have a lot of pretty good
Speaker 2: right now. Ten thousand Scoville heat units.
Speaker 1: Ten thousand Schoolville heat units. What kind of pepper is that? Halopenio? Hallopenia?
Speaker 1: You're every day?
Speaker 2: You know you want to pickle? Do you want you
Speaker 2: want to dice it up and throw it and you
Speaker 2: want to make a popper.
Speaker 1: Out of it? I just it's good, but pepper? How
Speaker 1: do I say number sixteen Chile day r bol arbol bowl?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Our bowl is fine?
Speaker 2: Say that one more time, Chile d arbol Okay, I
Speaker 2: can't say so. The accent is on the A, which
Speaker 2: means you got to hit the A a little bit harder.
Speaker 1: Bowl. Yeah. I don't feel confident about that, but no,
Speaker 1: I'll go I'll go number sixteen here with thirty thousand.
Speaker 2: I means say hues audible does okay?
Speaker 1: Audible? Yeah? Next question?
Speaker 2: Wait, so why why is it so spicy? To you,
Speaker 2: why is it so much spicier to me? What is
Speaker 2: your doubt about why?
Speaker 1: Well, I get the law. No, I don't really have
Speaker 1: doubt about it. I get I get what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I think it's based in logic. Maybe it's just a
Speaker 1: semantic thing for me as I'm looking at this question,
Speaker 1: Washington winning the Pac twelve and going to the Rose
Speaker 1: Bowl just feels like I don't feel like I don't
Speaker 1: feel like they should be that good. Okay, And I
Speaker 1: don't know why, but I have a hard time believing
Speaker 1: that they're.
Speaker 2: Gonna Is it John Donovan hangover?
Speaker 1: It is a little bit okay, it's a little bit
Speaker 1: of John Donovan. I also feel like Oregon is still
Speaker 1: the team to beat.
Speaker 2: Defense should be pretty strong, it should be pretty strong.
Speaker 1: And they return.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of receiver talent, the running
Speaker 2: backs are all back. They're pretty deep there. It's just
Speaker 2: an Anthony Brown belief system, I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And to that point, I think there's any time
Speaker 1: you've got that level of new Like I understand Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown kind of be a new star. But he's seen
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown at Oregon, We've seen him elsewhere. We kind
Speaker 1: of know what he's about. I'm all about five star quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: I'm all about Sam Heward, but we just haven't seen
Speaker 1: him play sure, So that's my cause for pause. My
Speaker 1: pet charity.
Speaker 2: By the way, if you are not a believer in Washington,
Speaker 2: you might have to be a believer. And Jar Guarantano,
Speaker 2: who is going to be likely starting at Wazoo. Next topic,
Speaker 2: Next topic, Okay, let's go to I like this one.
Speaker 1: This one.
Speaker 2: I believe it's from Ed Clemson. Ed is a Clemson
Speaker 2: fan and he is looking into the tea leaves and saying, Clemson.
Speaker 1: Clampson clip will fall off a cliff.
Speaker 2: WHOA No, Well, he's talking about how the defense was
Speaker 2: exposed and how there were game changers on offense that
Speaker 2: were proven obviously Trevor Lawrence Travis CTN and that the ACC,
Speaker 2: I suppose is catching up. Quarterback is certainly getting better
Speaker 2: in the ACC. There are more threats on the outside,
Speaker 2: better coaches, and the ability to sustain an amazing quarterback
Speaker 2: every year in college football might be too much to ask.
Speaker 2: In Dju's first full season as a.
Speaker 1: Starter, Clemson will fall off a cliff. Yep, Damn. Ed's
Speaker 1: bringing the Scoville heat units. Here is this like a
Speaker 1: Trinidad Marugo scorpion with whoa two million, nine and thirty
Speaker 1: one Scovill heat units. I'm not up that high. Come.
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna go.
Speaker 2: Ghost pepper with this the but Jokia, China, Bhutan, Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's gotta be at least over a million Scovil heat units.
Speaker 2: I think the ghost pepper is above a million, right, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: found in India. Yeah, I'm gonna go ghost Pepper with
Speaker 2: this one because I like talking about seeing ghosts.
Speaker 1: That's good falling off a cliff, though, falling off a cliff,
Speaker 1: I find that very hard to believe in a conference
Speaker 1: that we just talked about. There aren't a whole lot
Speaker 1: of killers in the ACC. Clemson stands to benefit from
Speaker 1: that now they do play Georgia. They do first week
Speaker 1: of the year will be a marquee matchup for sure.
Speaker 1: But then the rest of the way, who's the next
Speaker 1: best team on the schedule?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Maybe at pitt Or home against Florida State, at Louisville,
Speaker 1: at South Carolina. To close out the year, they should
Speaker 1: presumably run through the remainder of these teams. Their hardest
Speaker 1: game is Week one, so I find it very hard
Speaker 1: to believe that that's even possible, given the schedule, and
Speaker 1: given the talent that we know is already there.
Speaker 2: So this is their real given this schedule, what is
Speaker 2: their floor? So falling off a cliff is relative to
Speaker 2: how high their floor? Their floor is eleven and one
Speaker 2: Dan their floor, it's eleven and one. It's eleven one.
Speaker 2: They couldn't possibly do worse in one hundred universes simulating
Speaker 2: one hundred seasons every second. They couldn't do worse than
Speaker 2: eleven and one.
Speaker 1: Ten and two at worst. Where's the other loss coming from?
Speaker 1: They're not losing to these teams.
Speaker 2: First of all, Yukon got a ton of rest by
Speaker 2: not playing.
Speaker 1: That's true. Who's beating them seriously on this schedule? Georgia and.
Speaker 2: Some combination of at NC State, at Pitt Florida State,
Speaker 2: at NC State.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe it. Baby, Come on, man, you're not
Speaker 1: a Devon Leary? Did deve Otay? I like Devin Leary.
Speaker 1: I'm not a devote.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those. I mean, there is okay
Speaker 2: at Pitt Florida State at Leisville to take Florida State
Speaker 2: seriously without knowing McKenzie Milton's health is kind of silly.
Speaker 2: But those are three games in a row two point
Speaker 2: which are on the road that I don't know, especially
Speaker 2: later on in the season. Maybe djus beat up a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 1: How many of these teams could they beat legitimately be
Speaker 1: eat without a real quarterback just starting somebody back there
Speaker 1: who was a high school quarterback can kind of throw
Speaker 1: but mostly runs the wildcat? Could they go eight four?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well they lose. They lose to anybody who has
Speaker 2: a really smart defensive coordinator, head coach combination. So they
Speaker 2: probably lose to pit They probably lose to Boston College.
Speaker 2: Uh with the Jeff Hafley, I get it. Maybe Georgia Tech,
Speaker 2: although the defense is still has a ways to go,
Speaker 2: certainly to Georgia. Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, somewhere on there. Eight and four man, this is
Speaker 1: this ed. You know what, props to you? That's gonna
Speaker 1: win the entire spiciest, that's gonna be the spiciest. What
Speaker 1: did I say? What did I say? I'm looking at this?
Speaker 1: You said something with a scorpion Trinidad Marugo ruga scorpion
Speaker 1: two million, two million shoes. I'm just gonna call them shoes.
Speaker 2: Have you had have you yeah, Scoville heat units. Have
Speaker 2: you had any sort of uh pepper that originates in
Speaker 2: the Caribbean.
Speaker 1: I did when we were down in Jamaica.
Speaker 2: Scotch bonnets are big, Scottie bonbonds, Scotch bond had I
Speaker 2: had a couple, and I don't think I don't think
Speaker 2: it's clear to me whether or not you're actually allowed
Speaker 2: to import them. Okay, but I've had it a couple times.
Speaker 2: I think I shot an easy call when I was
Speaker 2: doing that series in New York and I went to
Speaker 2: a Caribbean influence restaurant and had some wings with Scotch
Speaker 2: bonnet sauce, and the chef alluded to the fact that
Speaker 2: he's got a guy in terms of trying and.
Speaker 1: You need a guy for the Scotch bonnet, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for Scotch bonnets, and they pack a wall up tie.
Speaker 2: I know you can handle your heat, but these, whooh,
Speaker 2: it's a lot. I mean, I had no. It's not
Speaker 2: that I really like handling the heat.
Speaker 1: I don't prefer the spiciest variety of pepper, okay, but
Speaker 1: I have it runs in the family. Let's put it
Speaker 1: that way. My family members could tolerate the heat I
Speaker 1: just don't prefer.
Speaker 2: It if you were like you just won't go out
Speaker 2: of your way, like if a place is like we've
Speaker 2: got atomic devil.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no devil t twings.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So where would you mass max out?
Speaker 2: Knowing hallapeno is at a ten thousand here at number eighteen,
Speaker 2: where would you what is a stretch goal on this list?
Speaker 1: Stretch goal? That's a great question. I don't I'm certain
Speaker 1: that I've eaten peppers that are hotter than this.
Speaker 2: You've probably done a hobbin arrow. I'm pretty sure I've done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty sure I've done a hobby narrow, and
Speaker 1: a hobbin nio has the same as a Jamaican hot
Speaker 1: pepper per the scale.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but hobin arrows are tough, man, That's a it's
Speaker 2: a tough ask.
Speaker 1: I'm not really looking to crack into the top five here, Dan, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're not going half a mil you're yeah, I think
Speaker 1: three fifty is probably enough for me. Three fifty is
Speaker 1: like I'm getting sweaty three fifty as I'm looking for
Speaker 1: something like milk that can dilute the burn. Three fifty
Speaker 1: is probably some sort of bathroom episode which we don't
Speaker 1: have to talk about on this here, no Go Go
Speaker 1: Dee podcast. But no, I mean, do you how hot
Speaker 1: have you gone?
Speaker 2: I've done the Scotch bond in the hobbanaro, but nothing
Speaker 2: hotter than that. And that it was like in a salsa.
Speaker 2: It's not like I was taking a bite of it
Speaker 2: or eating a pure of it on lacquered onto some wings.
Speaker 2: And I had a hobbanaro salsa in Mexico at a place,
Speaker 2: a taco place, and you're supposed to have the hobbinaro
Speaker 2: with this type of taco, a hobbanaro salsa, because it's
Speaker 2: a very fatty cut of pork. And I saw the
Speaker 2: future time. I was seeing waves on your shot. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was seeing ghosts. So all right, let's get let's
Speaker 2: get spicy with another with another outlandish, preposterous claim, Thank
Speaker 2: you very much. Georgia will beat Alabama twice this year
Speaker 2: freshman quarter Okay, SEC Championship game, college football playoff. Okay,
Speaker 2: we've talked about JT. Danielsalked about him a little bit,
Speaker 2: but I want to talk about Kirby Smart. I want
Speaker 2: to talk about I guess Dan Lanning and George Pickens
Speaker 2: and what this offense would need to do if Alabama
Speaker 2: is anywhere near where they've been these past few years
Speaker 2: with mac Jones and Tua. That does Georgia have the firepower?
Speaker 2: So we're talking Stetson Bennett plus something beyond Stetson Bennett,
Speaker 2: which wasn't great for four quarters, but they were there.
Speaker 2: Do you see Georgia being able to score forty five
Speaker 2: plus presumably what you'll need to score to beat Alabama
Speaker 2: for the foreseeable future twice this year? How preposterous and
Speaker 2: outlandish is that claim?
Speaker 1: So what did I put the Clemson one at? I
Speaker 1: said two million special Yeah, Scoville heat units. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: kind of put this one up there, maybe at like
Speaker 1: Devil's tongue level that was three. Okay, this one does
Speaker 1: not strike me as being too far fetched. Alabama was
Speaker 1: incredible this year, and you're probably sick of us saying
Speaker 1: this if you're not an Alabama fan. But had the
Speaker 1: best recruiting class, the best recorded recruiting class, so they
Speaker 1: did well. They always do well. But I just I
Speaker 1: feel like, first off, I'm biased when it comes to
Speaker 1: Georgia because I have a thing for Georgia football. You
Speaker 1: know this. I also like JT. Daniels an awful lot,
Speaker 1: maybe more so than most. It's tough for me to
Speaker 1: kind of see past that, but I do feel like
Speaker 1: we saw the better version of the Georgia offense down
Speaker 1: the stretch last season. And if in fact JT. Daniels
Speaker 1: comes back healthy, they got a ton of talent around him,
Speaker 1: we know the line's going to be solid as always.
Speaker 1: It's not too far fetched to me that Georgia comes
Speaker 1: out gunning and they just score a ton of points.
Speaker 1: That that's that, that's an ability of that offense. So
Speaker 1: twice is twice is what makes it a stretch. I
Speaker 1: feel yeah, I feel confident. Three hundred thousand special heat units.
Speaker 1: Give me, give me the Devil's that's pretty hot. That's
Speaker 1: pretty spicy. It's spicy, it's spicy. I think it's mostly
Speaker 1: spicy because we're saying that they need to do it twice.
Speaker 1: But I feel like George has got it in them
Speaker 1: that they've certainly got the talent level they could at
Speaker 1: least do it once.
Speaker 2: I have this as a Trinidad scorpion, butch T one
Speaker 2: point four million.
Speaker 1: Wow, no faith.
Speaker 2: It's not that I'm yee of little faith, which I
Speaker 2: guess doesn't make sense because I can't be ye. Beating
Speaker 2: Alabama twice seems kind of like a non starter to me.
Speaker 2: Beating beating Nick Saban twice in a season. I don't
Speaker 2: know how many teams have attempted it because of the
Speaker 2: the unlikelihood of the ability to play Alabama twice, But
Speaker 2: I do remember Alabama losing nine to six to LSU
Speaker 2: and then subsequently not letting them pass the fifty in
Speaker 2: the National Championship came let alone score a point, different offenses,
Speaker 2: different time whatever, different defenses. That was an all time,
Speaker 2: all time, all time Alabama defense. I just think it's
Speaker 2: it just feels too impossible to me, So I look agree. Ever,
Speaker 2: in Georgia football, I am we agree.
Speaker 1: On that component. We agree that the real spiciness here
Speaker 1: is in the beating them twice bit. What if I
Speaker 1: reframed the question, what if I said level of spiciness
Speaker 1: for beating Alabama once?
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, let me scroll down like Chipotle.
Speaker 1: So it's doable. It's just twice is what makes it
Speaker 1: hard for you to believe. I can sympathize with that.
Speaker 1: I can relate. By the way, we'll post this article
Speaker 1: in the notes of this here show if you want
Speaker 1: to get a look at the Skulvill heat index for yourself.
Speaker 2: Chipotle smoked Tulapano, by the way, not a standalone pepper,
Speaker 2: but gets its own classification. Some of these are smoked
Speaker 2: and dried out versions of other peppers should be pointed out. Okay,
Speaker 2: next take that you find to be preposterous or outlandish.
Speaker 2: I mean, our friend Dan Klobocar is saying, Purdue, We'll
Speaker 2: start out two and zero after squeaking by Oregon State
Speaker 2: and Yukon followed by ten straight losses.
Speaker 1: Bell Pepper, Bell.
Speaker 2: Frigid, like the pipes beneath this house I'm renting. I
Speaker 2: see fridgid. Not a lot of heat here.
Speaker 1: You go from Miller time of the second year coaches
Speaker 1: in the SEC. Mike Leach in Mississippi State have the
Speaker 1: best year. The offense showed promise by the end of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, and his teams have always made big jumps
Speaker 1: offensively in year two. Zach Garnett was great with a
Speaker 1: young defense in twenty twenty, and they should be even
Speaker 1: better this season. So what say you?
Speaker 2: So you're saying better than Lane and Ole miss.
Speaker 1: Better than Eli Drinkwitz I guess.
Speaker 2: Eli Drinkwitz better than Sam Pittman at Arkansas. The problem
Speaker 2: with Mississippi State is, yes, the lows were pretty low,
Speaker 2: but as a program, they've been pretty good lately, so
Speaker 2: the jump won't feel as pronounced. But yeah, I think
Speaker 2: I'm okay with this. I think I'm okay. I don't
Speaker 2: think it's all that spicy. I don't think there's a
Speaker 2: ton of you don't think there is this preposterous outlandish though.
Speaker 2: The thing to doubt is where that locker room is,
Speaker 2: because it did not seem by all accounts to be
Speaker 2: that pleasant a place. And so if there's not a
Speaker 2: belief in Mike Leach in that system, or there's still
Speaker 2: you know, you have this awkward point whenever there's a
Speaker 2: new coach, especially one who brings out a lot of
Speaker 2: emotions like Mike Leach does, where you start getting factions
Speaker 2: his guys hold over Dan Mullen, guys. I wonder what
Speaker 2: that that locker room, and that what that culture is like,
Speaker 2: because sometimes that takes a lot of time to work out.
Speaker 2: And year two, or technically year one, because it's year
Speaker 2: one for every new coach if they started out last year,
Speaker 2: I I'm concerned about that, but given the defense given
Speaker 2: you know, Jayden Wally, my guy, I don't know if
Speaker 2: you have the sound ready for you, but there's elements
Speaker 2: that makes me think that this could be.
Speaker 1: A pretty fun team. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Sorry it was so no, it's okay, I'm trying to
Speaker 2: catch you. So yeah, I'm gonna say I'll go to
Speaker 2: Basco fifty k not crazy spy.
Speaker 1: Now, this doesn't feel spicy at all to me. It
Speaker 1: doesn't feel spicy at all to me, like an Anaheim Poblano.
Speaker 1: Let me pull it back up here, give me.
Speaker 2: A pap We'll go Chipottele eight thousand. Okay, all right,
Speaker 2: fair enough, so a little bit of a kick, but
Speaker 2: not too bad. Arizona State per one, longtime listener, Arizona
Speaker 2: State fan, a young talented roster is now just a
Speaker 2: talented roster that might return twenty one starters from a
Speaker 2: year ago. Got to win those clunkers though, Arizona State
Speaker 2: winning the PAC twelve. The common road splits, but Asu
Speaker 2: experience quarterback. They've got a good mix of sort of
Speaker 2: cagey veteran coaches and younger recruiter types.
Speaker 1: I there's a lot of spice there Dan, there's a
Speaker 1: considerable amount of spice on this one.
Speaker 2: So I think you need to be so so solid
Speaker 2: along the lines to avoid dropping a clunker. And I'm
Speaker 2: not there yet with Arizona State. Yeah, well, I don't
Speaker 2: think the depth is quite there. I don't think the
Speaker 2: playmakers are quite there. And I like Jayden and Daniels
Speaker 2: a good deal, but he has had what was was
Speaker 2: the UCLA game. They had a wreck of a game
Speaker 2: this year. That's what concerns me. Yeah, Jade Daniels was
Speaker 2: not particularly good that game, so that that is the
Speaker 2: concern to me. Losing a game like that at home,
Speaker 2: not getting to twenty points. I'm not, I can't, I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not fully there. So in terms of spiciness without
Speaker 2: there being a team I love in the South, although
Speaker 2: I'm getting pretty high on UCLA at the moment, I'm
Speaker 2: going to say moderate spice. I'm gonna say moderate. I'll
Speaker 2: go in that Chile Day Audible territory at thirty.
Speaker 1: K Chile de Arbol.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a pretty open division, a pretty
Speaker 2: open conference, and I just I believe in every team
Speaker 2: in that in the South is going to drop a
Speaker 2: clunker and a half, so ASU has some legal room
Speaker 2: winning the PAC twelve. I mean, how many good quarter
Speaker 2: good legitimately known good quarterbacks are there in the PAC twelve.
Speaker 1: Now, look, yeah, you're right. I mean Keaton Slovs. Keaton Slovis,
Speaker 1: I think is the obvious answer.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I love, love love Keton Slovas
Speaker 2: after watching him in the PAC twelve championship game.
Speaker 1: I don't know. So they have they haven't actually set
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve schedule yet, correct, right, But we know
Speaker 1: the Homan Roads, but we know the Homan Road splits,
Speaker 1: and and that's sort of my point. There's a road
Speaker 1: game in here at Utah Road Gaming, here at Washington
Speaker 1: Road Gaming here against UCLA, depending when that when that
Speaker 1: game is played, that could be an interesting setup. There's
Speaker 1: a road game against BYU without Zach Wilson, who some
Speaker 1: apparently like better than Trevor Lawrence, which is we could
Speaker 1: talk about that later. So it's not the easiest schedule.
Speaker 1: But to your point, like I don't know, the PAC
Speaker 1: twelve South feels like it's winnable because we don't know
Speaker 1: what we're gonna get at USC never feels like we know.
Speaker 1: And if as you can get everything in a row.
Speaker 1: It stands to reason dated at least be in the conversation.
Speaker 1: But the clunker element of this is what scares me.
Speaker 1: There's clunker potential with the schedule and how many how
Speaker 1: many shoes did you go shoes? I think about thirty k?
Speaker 1: Thirty k feels right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I went back to the Chile.
Speaker 1: Thank you. That's pretty close. The roads.
Speaker 2: The road games are not great at Oregon State, at UCLA, Utah,
Speaker 2: at Washington and then BA.
Speaker 1: That's there are four and a half losable.
Speaker 2: Games on this schedule, bare minimum losable, not that they
Speaker 2: will lose, but envisionable. So yeah, I think it's I
Speaker 2: think there's a good amount of spice, so it's just
Speaker 2: not crazy amount of spice.
Speaker 1: Andrew Penn State will win nine games this season, which
Speaker 1: is in a wild prediction.
Speaker 2: But the catch we've got David going ten.
Speaker 1: Yeah, see this, but they're diametrically opposed with what I'm
Speaker 1: about to say next. Okay, so Andrew is saying that
Speaker 1: the catch here is that Christian Veyo will be the
Speaker 1: starting quarterback, not Sean Clifford. Clifford has hit his ceiling,
Speaker 1: has been coached by multiple offensive coordinators and hasn't improved.
Speaker 1: He is not the future. David says that Penn State
Speaker 1: will go ten and two on the back of Sean Clifford,
Speaker 1: who's going to step up his game, become a great quarterback,
Speaker 1: get help from the new offensive coordinator in a complete offseason,
Speaker 1: and Johan Dotson, who is coming back. So okay, two
Speaker 1: ways skin that cat. I don't think either prediction is
Speaker 1: too far off base. So I think Penn State's got
Speaker 1: a lot of talent. Okay. The quarterback situation, though, I
Speaker 1: think we're just David, We're gonna have to agree to disagree.
Speaker 1: I agree with Andrew and this one. It's it okay,
Speaker 1: certainly not a full and normal off season by any stretch.
Speaker 2: Last these are meant to be outlandish, by the way.
Speaker 2: This is understanding, David, or for Andrew chiming in.
Speaker 1: To say, I've been thinking this the whole time. No, no,
Speaker 1: no positive important disclaimer, important disclaimer, David, this one's for you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you for writing in, for supporting the show.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. The level of spice. Show me pull
Speaker 1: up Penn State schedule, YEP, I have it. What's it
Speaker 1: look like?
Speaker 2: Academic calendar or football football football. Please, Okay, it's making sure. Well,
Speaker 2: they do have Auburn and it's an Auburn team going
Speaker 2: through changes having Neal coach. But yeah, it is, you know,
Speaker 2: a talented Auburn team and opening they're at Wisconsin is
Speaker 2: certainly tricky. We just don't know what to expect out
Speaker 2: of the Badgers. But that's a quality program. We'll see
Speaker 2: what they look like in terms of a depth chart,
Speaker 2: spring fall, summer, injuries, whatever. Indiana is nice to have
Speaker 2: at home Iowa on the road, they're either losing that
Speaker 2: game seventeen sixteen or winning that game seventeen sixteen. Just
Speaker 2: how it works time right, Take this points, take those points,
Speaker 2: take them and run. You know, the stretch in the
Speaker 2: Halloween early November, like it's.
Speaker 1: Ten and two is doable. You could do ten this.
Speaker 2: I mean the quarterbacks on Penn State schedule that whoever
Speaker 2: vo or Sean Clifford have to match point for point
Speaker 2: are as follows.
Speaker 1: C. J. Stroud Ohio State or Jack Miller, whoever ends
Speaker 1: up starting. That's it.
Speaker 2: Unless you're a big believer in Kade McNamara. I know
Speaker 2: it's Kate what I like? Got hey, thank you? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean it's sort of it has a feeling of
Speaker 2: Penn State can win something ugly against both Wisconsin and Auburn,
Speaker 2: and if you want a pencil in losses at Iowa
Speaker 2: and at Ohio State with a toss up decent situation
Speaker 2: against Michigan, there is an element to Penn State needing
Speaker 2: to hold, serve and just tread water and that they
Speaker 2: can get a couple of breaks and get to ten
Speaker 2: and two.
Speaker 1: I feel like ten and two is doable. Certainly nine
Speaker 1: and three is doable.
Speaker 2: I also think ten and two and six and six
Speaker 2: are on equal footing.
Speaker 1: Yeah where I just the reason that David is spicier
Speaker 1: is because of the Sean Clifford comment, and it's definitely
Speaker 1: wishful thinking. I just do not see that. I do
Speaker 1: not see that at all at all. I think it's
Speaker 1: more I think Andrews is more likely and therefore has
Speaker 1: less spice. David. I like you going for it here
Speaker 1: with Seawan Clifford, but I'm out on them. So many
Speaker 1: how many quarterbacks?
Speaker 2: And I mean we can deep dive this at some
Speaker 2: point or who knows, or people can just tell us,
Speaker 2: like how many quarterbacks maintain a high level and grow
Speaker 2: with three coordinators in three years, No exactly exactly what
Speaker 2: it's Ricky, Ronnie, it's Kirk Shraka and now Mike, you're
Speaker 2: sick like is that a People pointed to that as
Speaker 2: the issue about Josh Rosen developing and obviously had a
Speaker 2: terrible offensive money UCLA, but putting it all together, starting
Speaker 2: from scratch three straight years, no matter what Sean Clifford's
Speaker 2: ceiling is, I it's just such an impossible ask to me.
Speaker 1: Ten wins with Sean Clifford is a Carolina cayenne one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five thousand Scovill heat units. Okay, doing
Speaker 1: nine and three with their freshman stud I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: back to the chili de orbull at thirty thousand. Still
Speaker 1: feels like a little bit just like saying that I
Speaker 1: can't say it that's the problem. Still feels like a
Speaker 1: little bit of a stretch. But I think it's definitely
Speaker 1: more workable and not that spicy. In the grand scheme,
Speaker 1: Peter Minnesota will win the Big ten okay O line
Speaker 1: gets two starters back who opted out, and of course
Speaker 1: Tanner Morgan Big ten running Back of the Year returns Okay,
Speaker 1: new kicker and punter Okay, bunch of defensive studs coming
Speaker 1: in will win the West because I'm disillusioned the whole thing,
Speaker 1: versus Ohio State because their new quarterback stinks. This is outlandish,
Speaker 1: preposterous thing, by the way, So okay, I like it.
Speaker 2: I love the heat. We had somebody else talk about PJ.
Speaker 2: Fleck is gonna raise his profile to such a point
Speaker 2: where he's gonna have a sixty minutes segment in mid December. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Mike Leech treatment, Yes, I like it.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 2: I think it's more likely that PJ fleckets on sixty
Speaker 2: minutes than Minnesota wins the Big Ten.
Speaker 1: Oh for sure.
Speaker 2: So for sure, in terms of spice, Minnesota winning what
Speaker 2: I still consider to be a outside of one team
Speaker 2: wide open conference. Well, okay, so let's let's let's talk
Speaker 2: about Minnesota winning the West door stepping it totally. That's
Speaker 2: not spicy at all. Now, I have I harbor a
Speaker 2: little bit of.
Speaker 1: Resentment because I was all in on Minnesota last year
Speaker 1: and they stink, and they took a ton of money,
Speaker 1: probably out of the pockets of the same verballers sending
Speaker 1: in some of these outlandishly spicy predictions. Yeah, so it's
Speaker 1: gonna take me a little bit a moment to get
Speaker 1: over that. But I do feel like, as I do
Speaker 1: seemingly every year, that the Big Ten West is pretty
Speaker 1: wide open. That to me is not the spicy part.
Speaker 1: The spicier parts obviously winning the conference championship game. That
Speaker 1: is this as spicy as it was a year ago
Speaker 1: when Justin Fields was a quarterback for Ohio State.
Speaker 2: Yes, we're also coming off of a disastrous Minnesota season.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so you can't get over it either.
Speaker 2: No, I can't at all, though, I mean I maintain
Speaker 2: that could you could blaze a path for a number
Speaker 2: of teams in the Big Ten to doorstep and the
Speaker 2: way that Indiana did perhaps where develop a couple receivers
Speaker 2: quarterback is sort of just well, maybe not excellent. A
Speaker 2: playmaker gets things done, And I definitely think a full season,
Speaker 2: perhaps a full year of whatever spring football looks like,
Speaker 2: summer and fall camp, and regularity to listen to and
Speaker 2: or tolerate PJ flex Ted talks every day all year
Speaker 2: long to buy in and believe will give minutes so
Speaker 2: to an advantage in a way that other teams may
Speaker 2: not need. So I'm gonna say there is noticeable spice,
Speaker 2: a bird's eye chili two twenty five k Scoville heat units.
Speaker 2: But you can get hotter here. You can definitely get hotter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could definitely get hotter. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: spicy because that.
Speaker 2: Offense was kind of a nightmare last year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like they are unanswered questions with Tanner Morgan correct
Speaker 1: their unanswered questions about the Big ten East, plenty of them.
Speaker 1: So this is less spicy to me than it was
Speaker 1: a year ago. It will take me a moment to
Speaker 1: get over what I saw in Minnesota last year, which
Speaker 1: I just did not see coming. Thought they were going
Speaker 1: to be a heck of a lot better and they weren't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how many heat units did you go to? Twenty five
Speaker 1: to twenty five? Five to twenty five? I'll go, oh man,
Speaker 1: there's really not much in between the bird's eye chili
Speaker 1: and tabasco, is there? No, I'm gonna go Carolina Cayen
Speaker 1: in again on Twlana Cayen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, seven points against Iowa last year, seventeen against Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, is it more likely
Speaker 1: that PJ. Fleck gets on sixty minutes because of football
Speaker 1: or because of some non football like charity that he's spearheading.
Speaker 2: Oh no, it'll be because something happens during a game,
Speaker 2: like he himself tackles a streaker. Okay, like there's something
Speaker 2: that raises his profile beyond sports, where he's involved in
Speaker 2: some sort of viral video or he breaks up a
Speaker 2: bank robbery so that.
Speaker 1: But it's not gonna be football related, is my point.
Speaker 2: Well, it'll introduce people to his football wackiness. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I think it'll involve football. But there's gonna be something,
Speaker 2: some element of his personality that uh that transcends.
Speaker 1: There needs to be that twist, though, There needs to be.
Speaker 1: I always thought the way that he wears a tie
Speaker 1: could be a nice entry point, but no one ever
Speaker 1: seems to play into that.
Speaker 2: Big tie not you know, the cleats thing too, is
Speaker 2: great he and Harbaugh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. Ready to go out there. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's do like one or two more, Dan.
Speaker 2: All right, give me something out landish.
Speaker 1: I want to go.
Speaker 2: To but but but we had a few. Iowa State
Speaker 2: is going to make the playoff.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Shore. Let's do that one.
Speaker 2: Okay, Iowa State playoff team returning a time, Iowa State's
Speaker 2: returning starters go undefeated. Mm hmm, okay, okay, I'm assuming
Speaker 2: Nate does not believe that Texas will be back.
Speaker 1: Is that fair to say?
Speaker 2: It's fair to say it's uh, Northern Iowa LV in
Speaker 2: the non conference Northern Iowa Iowa UNLV.
Speaker 1: Excuse me.
Speaker 2: With the the Syhawk Trophy being decided in Aames.
Speaker 1: We've also got road games against Baylor, against Kansas State,
Speaker 1: West Virginia Tech's Tech, and Oklahoma.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's it's it's a tough maybe slightly even,
Speaker 2: but pretty tough. So if we're talking about Iowa State
Speaker 2: in terms of they're a clear Big twelve contender, they're
Speaker 2: in the championship game last year, so they are on
Speaker 2: the road taking on their biggest threat, their biggest roadblock,
Speaker 2: without again not going game for game. But I think
Speaker 2: there is a good to very good shot that this happened.
Speaker 1: I feel pretty good about this one. Actually, I feel
Speaker 1: pretty good.
Speaker 2: Getting over Beating Oklahoma twice is near impossible. As we
Speaker 2: saw last year. It was still relatively close in the
Speaker 2: championship game though, for sure, But Iowa State to get
Speaker 2: over that hump, we're gonna have to match the probably
Speaker 2: a pretty improved and that's kind of scary to think
Speaker 2: about Spencer Rattler with a full off season at the Helm.
Speaker 2: So ah, their weakness was against the pass last year
Speaker 2: and it's not an amazing matchup, and they they're just
Speaker 2: they're not an explosive team. That's what worries me. That
Speaker 2: they could play a pretty good game like the way
Speaker 2: that they beat Texas scares me. Trailing a pretty good
Speaker 2: team the entire time and closing it out strong. It's
Speaker 2: not the best recipe for running the table, which Iowa
Speaker 2: State is probably going to have to do for people
Speaker 2: to believe in them on a playoff level. So I
Speaker 2: think there's considerable spice, just not overwhelming spice. So once
Speaker 2: again I'm gonna go up to I'll go Red Savina
Speaker 2: Hobanaro Red five eighty K.
Speaker 1: Five eighty K. So wow, you said you didn't think
Speaker 1: it was crazy, and then you went five eighty K.
Speaker 2: Well, if I'm saying just absolutely outlandis bonkers, I'm going
Speaker 2: over a mill. So I'm not there, but I think
Speaker 2: it's significant just because I still see a dud of
Speaker 2: a brock party half somewhere.
Speaker 1: So you talk yourself into it being spicier than you
Speaker 1: initially thought.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a California pepper. I don't know how California
Speaker 2: spice relates to I was stayed football at this moment.
Speaker 2: I'll try to make a comparison that's tenuous at best,
Speaker 2: but yeah, that's where I am right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I m hm, undefeated is what he's saying. They're
Speaker 1: going to go undefeated. I think you went really spicy
Speaker 1: with this. Okay, I'm gonna say Bird's eye chili two
Speaker 1: twenty five. K. I don't think it's likely, but I
Speaker 1: also think that the Big twelve is upside down enough
Speaker 1: that something crazy like this could happen. So I would
Speaker 1: stayed on a sun Belt losing streak, sun Belt losing streak, Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: two twenty five. I don't think it's crazy. We're we're
Speaker 1: in vicinity here, Final one. You get the pink.
Speaker 2: Let's go, let's go something big here. Florida State wins
Speaker 2: nine games this year. Good quarterback play for the first
Speaker 2: time since Frenchy. I imagine that's DeAndre frances Wah. I
Speaker 2: was a freshman. Another step forward with an O line
Speaker 2: under a coach at Wlkins ends that can apply pressure,
Speaker 2: which helps the secondary. A full off season with the
Speaker 2: coach as a team that is committed. So do you
Speaker 2: think that this team, this program has shed everything that
Speaker 2: weighed it down from the end of Jimbo and the
Speaker 2: Willie Taggart era.
Speaker 1: Probably not. But here's what we're getting there. I think
Speaker 1: they're getting there. They're getting there. Yeah, No, it's I
Speaker 1: think going in a better direction. The problem here is
Speaker 1: that in looking at the schedule, Notre Dame, Clemson in
Speaker 1: Florida are on the schedule, which should I think should
Speaker 1: be losses, which leads virtually no wiggle room moving forward.
Speaker 1: We've got Miami, We've got NC State road tilt against
Speaker 1: North Carolina. It seems like every team has a road
Speaker 1: tilt against the North Carolina. They don't play any road
Speaker 1: games themselves. Nine and three, no wiggle room. I could
Speaker 1: get behind that. I think I could get behind that. Dan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Miami, Clemson, Florida, Notre Dame. It's four games, so
Speaker 2: they have to go one in three at bare minimum,
Speaker 2: and then beat up Jacksonville State, Wake, Louisville, Syracuse, UMass,
Speaker 2: NC State, Miami, BC.
Speaker 1: I could get behind this. I think, Yeah, your voice
Speaker 1: is too high. I know it happens.
Speaker 2: I think it's too big of a leap so in
Speaker 2: terms of how preposterous and spicy and outlandish it is.
Speaker 1: Ah, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 2: Let's go with the Naga viper one point three mil
Speaker 2: I appreciate the heat. It's too hot for me. Ooh,
Speaker 2: by the way, do you know why you're supposed to
Speaker 2: drink milk and not water if your mouth is on fire?
Speaker 1: I feel like I heard this once, but I can't
Speaker 1: recall the answer.
Speaker 2: There's no fat in water. Fat whatever globules or molecules
Speaker 2: or some mules, it coats the mouth, and thus it
Speaker 2: prevents the burning sensation, at least in a way that
Speaker 2: water doesn't. So if you really wanted to go big,
Speaker 2: you'd go like half in half or buttermilk or something, right,
Speaker 2: if you really wanted to prevent against severe mouth burn.
Speaker 2: But that's why water doesn't do much, doesn't code anything.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Scotch bond it here, three fifty.
Speaker 2: Scotty bonbond Okay, So we didn't go full Carolina Reaper.
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit disappointed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go Scotty bonbond here. Okay. I I
Speaker 1: think I've been higher on Florida state than most the
Speaker 1: last two seasons and it's probably not going to Chane.
Speaker 1: I do feel like they're getting closer to shedding all
Speaker 1: that baggage.
Speaker 2: To me, Florida State competing and being legit dangerous in
Speaker 2: the ACC will need two recruiting classes that really work
Speaker 2: out from Mike Norvell and falling backwards into three to
Speaker 2: five guys in the transfer portal that fill and need
Speaker 2: immediately and are exactly what they needed and wanted whatever.
Speaker 2: So I think more time is needed. But I think
Speaker 2: the pursuit of quarterbacks, both on the transfer market and
Speaker 2: on the recruiting trail, we saw it with Chubba Party
Speaker 2: and now Mackenzie Milton. Even if Mackenzie Milton is seventy
Speaker 2: eight and a half percent of what he was, that's
Speaker 2: a passing improvement.
Speaker 1: That's still better than James Blackman.
Speaker 2: That's noticeable. Yeah, I'm Jordan Travis. So yeah, the trajectory
Speaker 2: is there. The trajectory is there, a little too much
Speaker 2: heat for me.
Speaker 1: And I'm going to post this scale again so that
Speaker 1: people can please do their own homework right in solidverbo
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com.
Speaker 2: Let us know and tell us the hottest pepper that
Speaker 2: you've consumed. Yeah, please do and how you dealt with it.
Speaker 1: We're I think, probably more interested in that. When I
Speaker 1: took my anniversary trip up to Niagara Falls, my one
Speaker 1: year anniversary trip that I told you about. When Kate
Speaker 1: and I went up there, we stopped somewhere at Upstate
Speaker 1: New York, and I don't know why, but I was
Speaker 1: in the mood to just get, like, as an appetizer,
Speaker 1: one of those plates of nachos, you know, and they said,
Speaker 1: do you want the peppers on it? I said sure.
Speaker 1: It was one of those situations where I was I
Speaker 1: was smearing sour cream on my tongue to try and
Speaker 1: get the burnout. It was definitely hotter than a normal jalapeno.
Speaker 1: That was probably the hottest thing I've ever experienced in
Speaker 1: my life.
Speaker 2: Was it a green pepper on nachos?
Speaker 1: I think it was?
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, a serrano is more than twice Torano's at
Speaker 2: Chili Day. Audible, your new favorite. Those are red, so
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what green. Hobb and narrows are kind
Speaker 2: of neon orange, and I could see them on nachos,
Speaker 2: but it would if you had Hobby Narow nachos. The
Speaker 2: men you would almost assuredly say something.
Speaker 1: To give you like a flashing red warning of sorts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Devil's tongue.
Speaker 2: This is so Yeah, it would have its own section,
Speaker 2: its own spotlight within the menu. Maybe they were just
Speaker 2: probably serranos.
Speaker 1: Maybe they were just they.
Speaker 2: Went heavy seed. Maybe they went heavy seed with the halopanio.
Speaker 1: It could be because I've I eat hallo opinions all
Speaker 1: the time. It's not a big deal that I can take.
Speaker 1: But I've never experienced quite this level of heat.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm trying to think the hottest At a
Speaker 2: couple of Asian restaurants. Indian restaurants, there have been surprise
Speaker 2: chilis in a curry and a sauce and you get
Speaker 2: one of those where the sauce itself is spiced nice.
Speaker 2: Everything has played well together, but then you get that
Speaker 2: surprise pepper and you need a minute or seven. That's
Speaker 2: what That's what has got me in the past. We
Speaker 2: have the Hobbenaro in Mexico on the taco that one
Speaker 2: I remember specifically. I was there with Bill Barnwell. Actually
Speaker 2: he can attest to how delicious it was, but also
Speaker 2: that's a the the woman we were with down there,
Speaker 2: she was like, look, I know you like salsa, but
Speaker 2: we're talking treat it like an eye dropper type situation. Okay,
Speaker 2: and we did, we did, We followed the directions and
Speaker 2: still it was.
Speaker 1: An eruption eruption. All right. Well that's all I have.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to everyone out there for that
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