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Speaker 2: does that even mean anymore? But it is Friday, guys.

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Speaker 2: We got a little updown report on today's podcast, and

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Speaker 2: we got a very fun sort of follow up tweeted

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Speaker 2: the night I guess so to speak from Trey Kirby.

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Speaker 2: But first we start with the game. Another great one,

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Speaker 2: but the Miami Heat pulled off another comeback to beat

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Speaker 2: the Celtics one o six, one on one. They take

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Speaker 2: the two to zero lead in the Eastern Conference Finals.

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Speaker 2: Task it's over heater going to the NBA Finals. Man

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Speaker 2: say it's a.

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Speaker 3: Rap, right, I'm not gonna say that. I'm absolutely not

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Speaker 3: gonna say that. Even though I did pick the Miami Heat,

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Speaker 3: the Celtics are not far off. We had two really

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Speaker 3: I go going forward. He could get a blowout win

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Speaker 3: Even though this was a seventeen point lead, and it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy crazy third quarter tray where task you know,

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Speaker 2: that's crazy. That is just wild to see what you

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Speaker 2: You gotta get it to the nail because then you

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Speaker 2: little confused. It's funny because the Heat did a lot

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Speaker 2: of zone all regular season. You talked about the con

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Speaker 2: in Game two. But that third quarter tray, I mean,

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Speaker 2: what was more impressive what they were doing offensively to

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Speaker 4: Apparently Eric Spolstra halftime said I need all defensive bam

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Speaker 4: of saying I need a twelve inch from DeMarcus Cousins.

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Speaker 2: Bam came out. He gave you a twelve inch in

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Speaker 4: The guy was incredible, Like you're saying, he dunked basically

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Speaker 2: And the zone. The zone was crazy.

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Speaker 4: It was crazy to see the Celtics so discombobulated by it,

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Speaker 4: But like you're saying, they just couldn't get organized, they

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Speaker 4: it so many times where it felt like maybe Jalen

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Speaker 4: But when it's working like that, just keep going to

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's true. I mean, that's it's a weird

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Speaker 2: third quarter, right because they're down hugely heater, then they're

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Speaker 2: in the fourth and it's suddenly a close game and

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Speaker 2: then we get into Jimmy and dragas time. But what

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Speaker 2: did you think Lee of, first off, what you saw

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Speaker 2: you got to assume that Eric Spoulster in the heat

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Speaker 2: here in Game three. The zone defense. What they're doing

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Speaker 2: moving forward maybe even changing players.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think offensively the Celtics are going to

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Speaker 1: have to be ready for that zone and be like, listen,

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Speaker 1: just got to move that ball around and find those

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Speaker 1: think their focus last night was get Kemba Walker going early,

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Speaker 5: And I don't even think it's Tayste's fault though, No, no,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you got to help though. I mean when

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Speaker 1: And he was kind of calling out his teammates, you know,

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Speaker 3: That's what I was not feeling it. He's not feeling

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Speaker 1: There's a couple of times where he's sort of dribbling.

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Speaker 4: I thought that was such a major thing, was not

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Speaker 4: Playmaking is something he's working on right now. Marcus Smart

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they kind of they kind of just felt

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Speaker 2: If they always do that in the third quarter.

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Speaker 3: They saw it, like like Tray said, in the series

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Speaker 3: his team wasn't ready. And I know, yeah, bam Oudebaio's

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Speaker 3: They just weren't. They just weren't ready in this game.

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna fire. It looked like a practice shot

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Speaker 3: this was Kemba Walker's game. We all were looking for

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Speaker 2: But unfortunately Dragis still played better for celt Expanse for

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Speaker 5: So who can forget where that after that classic well

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Speaker 2: But that's the best we ever saw Dragas play. And

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Speaker 2: I mean he was. You know, Jimmy made huge, huge,

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Speaker 2: like who cares about the box score, take it, rip

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Speaker 2: It's Jimmy time, drags man the hell of a partner

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Speaker 4: Yeah, starting is the huge thing, right, he's playing with

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Speaker 2: Still the main focus, I do believe.

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Speaker 4: But if you got drag Its as your second secondary creator,

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Speaker 4: they want to be the man, and it was working

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 4: I love seeing Jimmy Butler. I'm by saying, well, what

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Speaker 4: That's how it always goes. Don't criticize while the ball

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Speaker 3: Due those dudes did an incredible job to get him there,

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Speaker 3: It looked like Dragish was gonna have a bad game,

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Speaker 3: but they just kept feeding Duncan Robinson over and over

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Speaker 2: Has Crowder missed since he joined the Miami Heat.

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Speaker 1: From three points?

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Speaker 3: It seems like he was three for ten. He was

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Speaker 1: Well, you talk about that four point play. That was

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Speaker 1: Then on the other end. I think tys missus and

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Speaker 1: time out. So a ten point difference should have been

432
00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,879
Speaker 1: a Boston possession, but instead thee of the heat managed

433
00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,440
Speaker 1: to turn it into basically six points. So that was

434
00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,880
Speaker 1: a key moment in the game. Yeah, a big, big swing.

435
00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,960
Speaker 1: But Jay crowdy. You can see that they are saying

436
00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,840
Speaker 1: to him, man, you're hot, shoot right now, because he

437
00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,480
Speaker 1: came out firing and he wasn't all that hot at

438
00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,919
Speaker 1: the start, but he kept it going. And he's fitting

439
00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,160
Speaker 1: into this role pretty nicely because he's a good defender.

440
00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,840
Speaker 1: He doesn't create really for anybody, but he's ready to

441
00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,679
Speaker 1: catch a ball and ready to shoot those threes. And

442
00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,720
Speaker 1: I mean it is that you said found money. That's

443
00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,000
Speaker 1: what it kind of feels like, because this is a

444
00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,240
Speaker 1: guy who's bounced around, played at a lot of teams,

445
00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,919
Speaker 1: hasn't really found a but down in Miami, he seems

446
00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,320
Speaker 1: to fit their sort of work ethic down there, like

447
00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,720
Speaker 1: just be tough defensively and then do your job on

448
00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,879
Speaker 1: the offensive end, and you're going to get minutes. And

449
00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,880
Speaker 1: he has been very, very good for Miami. And you saw,

450
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,679
Speaker 1: you know, you mentioned that Duncan Robinson hit the six

451
00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,520
Speaker 1: threes because he was cold in Game one and he

452
00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,600
Speaker 1: got in foul trouble. He couldn't get it going. And

453
00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,800
Speaker 1: Tyler Hero was the sort of guy who the staff

454
00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,600
Speaker 1: for them, I guess coming off the bench in Game one. Well,

455
00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,000
Speaker 1: Tyler Hero didn't really have a great game last night.

456
00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,040
Speaker 1: It was Duncan Robinson. So you know, if you're getting

457
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,560
Speaker 1: it from one of those guys every night, you're getting

458
00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,120
Speaker 1: five or six threes. And that's also just so important

459
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:32,000
Speaker 1: to the Heat's offense.

460
00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said at the beginning their dragage starting in

461
00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,640
Speaker 3: the postseason here was it a long time that Kendrick Nunn,

462
00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,159
Speaker 3: their rookie started all season long, and then isn't in

463
00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,320
Speaker 3: the playoffs. And yes, Kendrick Nunn wasn't with the team

464
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,159
Speaker 3: at first in the bubble here because he contracted COVID.

465
00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:56,080
Speaker 3: But it also seems like it would be crazy for

466
00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,119
Speaker 3: the Heat not to start the guy who can score

467
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,399
Speaker 3: the easiest on their team, who is their leading offensive player.

468
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,359
Speaker 3: What would have happened? Is this just a fortunate circumstance

469
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,960
Speaker 3: for them to start the playoffs with Goran Dravich as

470
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,440
Speaker 3: their starter. What would have happened. I really it's puzzling.

471
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,359
Speaker 3: It's just odd to think that Goran Dravich would be

472
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 3: their sixth man the way he's balling right now. I

473
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 3: guess it's just one of those fortunate circumstances, like in

474
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,119
Speaker 3: twenty twelve when they figured out, oh, we got to

475
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,639
Speaker 3: start Chris Bosh at the five. He got injured in

476
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 3: the playoffs against the Indiana Pacers, then came back and

477
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,199
Speaker 3: they said, oh, yeah, this is way better. Let's not

478
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,679
Speaker 3: put him at the four spot. Let's put him at

479
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 3: the five spot. And this is sort of a similar

480
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,879
Speaker 3: circumstance because Dragons shit those money shots. I mean, it

481
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 3: really just came down to a couple shots at the

482
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,919
Speaker 3: end again, and Tatum kind of passed up, and he

483
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 3: passed up the shot to Brown because Brown was hot,

484
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,400
Speaker 3: passed it up to Kemba because Kemball was hot, and

485
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,920
Speaker 3: Kembo almost got him there, and Brown almost got them there.

486
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 3: I mean, if we're gonna it sure feels like if

487
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 3: we're just going to watch a possession by possession game

488
00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,240
Speaker 3: here in fourth quarters, I don't know how you bet

489
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 3: against the heat. How you bet against against right now, Yeah, there's.

490
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 1: Dragon, I mean dragas that long three that kind of

491
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 1: sealed it. That was the lucky shot, whereas Brown Brown

492
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: missed an open shot and Kenber missed an open shot

493
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 1: as well. So it's just, you know, it's a make

494
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 1: or miss league, as if we hear all the time.

495
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 1: But one thing about Draga's offense, which is very, very impressive,

496
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 1: is how very it is he drives inside if he

497
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,399
Speaker 1: if he has the mismatch with Daniel Tye, like he's like,

498
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 1: all right, I'm going in here for the laut. He's

499
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 1: got that little mid ranger that's kind of like he

500
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 1: stops on a dime and he can just pull up

501
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 1: and he is knocking down those threes even if he

502
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 1: didn't get off to a hot start last night. So

503
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 1: you know, there's not a lot of guys who have

504
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,679
Speaker 1: that many different options in there in their game and

505
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 1: they go to them just depending on what the defense

506
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 1: is giving them. And that's something pretty smart about him.

507
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 1: And again talking about him coming back into the starting lineup,

508
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 1: like he wasn't happy about going to the bench at

509
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 1: the start of the season, but staying professional and staying

510
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 1: ready and now when they need him to start, he's

511
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,199
Speaker 1: answering the call as well. So, you know, just a

512
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,640
Speaker 1: really admirable player for that team. And again, I think

513
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 1: that's what you think from the Miami Heat is team

514
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 1: and no matter what the situation. And uh and he's

515
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 1: just sort of showing that now.

516
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 3: Mr said, Trey, you said that their buds Jimmy and Goren.

517
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 3: Apparently Jimmy says zoron when he hits threes in practice.

518
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 3: Who's Goren's brothers named Zorn? Drag play? I had a

519
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,400
Speaker 3: cup of coffee with the Miami Heat in the NBA.

520
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 3: Do you ever really think Jimmy Butler goes when he

521
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 3: hits a three?

522
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 2: Come on, man, I mean it's so weird.

523
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 4: Probably happened once around the reporter like we're running with it.

524
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, Sideline reports like I need that story. Yeah.

525
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 2: What does everybody make of the post game incidents? That

526
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 2: reports that we heard coming out of the Celtics locker room.

527
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 2: A lot of frustration by the sound of it, possibly

528
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: some chairs being thrown around. Marcus Smart says, hold on,

529
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 2: hold on, I gotta take a piss. We're are gonna

530
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 2: be arguing still, But you better be hold your thought.

531
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 2: I'm still upset. We're gona talking about those twenty turnovers.

532
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 2: I gotta take a piss. You know, there's bunch of

533
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 2: yelling going on here. Anybody concerned by this? I know

534
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 2: a lot of the other Celtics guys sort of downplays, like, yeah,

535
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 2: we're down to oh, we feel like we should be

536
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 2: up to oh. And they have a case to be made.

537
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 2: I mean they easily could up two o the series

538
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 2: at least one to one. They're down oh two? Just

539
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 2: getting that frustration out? Sloppy play or is there something

540
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 2: more here? Are the Celtics Are the Beantown boys unraveling tray?

541
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 2: What do you think?

542
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 6: Uh?

543
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 4: They should be mad, if they should be upset about things.

544
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 4: My sources say it wasn't chairs being thrown, It was

545
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 4: just cans of baked beans. What scenes They're doing nothing

546
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 4: for us around here. But yeah, they should be mad.

547
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 4: They've played terrible in two second halves. They've blown two leads,

548
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 4: They've lost two games by a combined eight points.

549
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 2: It could easily be Celtics two.

550
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 4: Oh. And we're talking about Jimmy Butler not coming through

551
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 4: in the clutch. Yeah, right, like we would ever talk

552
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 4: about just kidding. But you know, Marcus Smart does this right.

553
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 4: He is their emotional leader. He has been known to

554
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 4: yell at them in the past. Unfortunately for the Celtics,

555
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 4: they have been known to choke a little bit in

556
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 4: the playoffs, necessitating a Marcus Smart yelling at has happened before.

557
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 4: Hopefully they straighten things out. You know, yelling in the

558
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 4: locker room doesn't as much if you don't have the

559
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 4: effort out there in the court, and they didn't have

560
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 4: it in the third quarter. Maybe that's why they were

561
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:04,959
Speaker 4: getting yelled at.

562
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 2: I love this idea now that in the locker room

563
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 2: because he's not playing yet. He might be back for

564
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: Game three, maybe game four. Gordon Hayward, he's like building

565
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 2: like a like he works in a supermarket store and

566
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 2: he's got all these cans of beans and he's building

567
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: like a really cool display.

568
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 5: But then the Celtics lose and they come in there

569
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 5: and Marcus starts chugging all these big bean cans around

570
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 5: for Gordon's like, I took hours to make that.

571
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 2: That's a fun visual. So yeah, okay, try and Tassa

572
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 2: sorry you agree with what Trey's saying, you know, like

573
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 2: keep that passion going for Game three. If anything, this

574
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 2: is this is sort of a good thing. You're not

575
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 2: worried about these reports of the being upset with each

576
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 2: other or are you?

577
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 3: No? No? Roll that beautiful bean footage? I think is

578
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 3: that a Chicago commercial tray? Is that what that is?

579
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 2: I don't know.

580
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 4: Bush's Baked Beans feels like a national product to me.

581
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 4: The love of beans stretches from coast to coast.

582
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, roll that beautiful bean footage. So that's a commercial

583
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 3: for that for that bean company.

584
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 2: Oh, exact right, exactly right.

585
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 4: They don't want they don't want to give away their

586
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 4: family baked beans recipe.

587
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 2: But their dog can talk, and you know, he just says,

588
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 2: roll that beautiful bean footage. Oh they got us again.

589
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 2: Now our secret's out. We pumped pork in the beans.

590
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: Who would have guessed?

591
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, people do that. Let me let me say this.

592
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 3: It's just a bad sign for the Celtics that the

593
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 3: NBA pushed back Game four by three days because after

594
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 3: the game, it was a decision. After the game they said,

595
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 3: all right, Saturday is Game three. That makes sense every

596
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 3: second day, but we're gonna push back Game four till Wednesday.

597
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 3: Take take three days off because justin if if the

598
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 3: Lakers series goes short, they want these series to be close. Now,

599
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 3: I don't think that they would have decided to push

600
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 3: back the series if it was one one, because the

601
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 3: series could have gone just as long. So that's just

602
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 3: just a bad sign. And I also had this because

603
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:58,479
Speaker 3: you brought up corn here.

604
00:25:58,520 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 2: What do you say, hold on, why do you say

605
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 2: it's about the Celtics curiosity.

606
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 3: Well, it's a bad sign because they wouldn't they're down

607
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: to oh yeah, just so let's.

608
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: Say it's actually bad for the heat though. The way

609
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 2: that team is playing right now, the last thing I

610
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,239
Speaker 2: would want to do is take off time. I mean

611
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: they're just locked in right now.

612
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 3: Well, they're not taking off time between game two and

613
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 3: game three if they're if they're up three to oh.

614
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 3: If they're up three oh, then who cares. I mean,

615
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 3: they're happy either way. But if they're up to one,

616
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 3: if they lost the game, then they got to take

617
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 3: some they want some extra time off, but then it's.

618
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 2: More time for Gordon Hayward to get rested up.

619
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 3: Ah. But that that's my next point. For Gordon Hayward

620
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 3: comes back, baby is due, his wife is dude, Robins

621
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,479
Speaker 3: due at the end of this month. You're just pushing

622
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 3: it back. You're just bumping up that timeline against the

623
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 3: baby popping out. He's gonna come back, have a good

624
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 3: game four, Game five, Oh gotta go, Baby's on the way.

625
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 3: That would hurt.

626
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: I would really hurt that being display in the locker room.

627
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: I'm taking a picture of my display before I leave.

628
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 2: It better be the same when I get back. I

629
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 2: saw some people on Twitter pointing out, you know, playing

630
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 2: the body doctor. Uh, body language doctor. I guess what

631
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say, body doctor. That's Lee's forte when

632
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: he's talking about shoulders and arms.

633
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: Bab's beautiful, dude.

634
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: Somebody wanted you to comment on Dragage's beautiful shoulders and arms.

635
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 2: Someone tweeted at me about that. Can you ask Lia

636
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 2: about we're not anyway that. There was some some Celtics pointing.

637
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 2: Some Celtics, what's going on? Some Celtics, Hold on, you're

638
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 2: taking that shot. You know in some of these guys,

639
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: maybe a jail in if Tatum's forcing something or something

640
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 2: like that. And you just wonder if that frustration maybe

641
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: spilled over into the locker room. Lee after the game

642
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 2: was my point there.

643
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, they've been in the bubble there for nearly

644
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: what three months I guess it is now, and they

645
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: they have frustrated because they like, hell, we down two

646
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: oh in this series, you know, like that that's you know,

647
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 1: that's the sort of situation where they like, we've been

648
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: playing well enough to win. We haven't. They're just getting

649
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 1: a little bit frustrated, I think, with each other. But again,

650
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm not overly concerned about the Celtic, so I don't

651
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: think they've been playing terribly. I think this series has

652
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: been very close. It's come down to a few possessions

653
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: and they've just been on the wrong end of them.

654
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: And there's no you know, again, like I said, in

655
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: the bubble here, they're not traveling, They're not now going

656
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: to Miami to have to win two games. They're just like,

657
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: all right, let's just tighten up things. We kind of

658
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: know what to expect now from Miami's defense, we just

659
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: have to be better. So but it's it's natural and

660
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: you're in the conference finals, you're playing well and you're

661
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: losing to be a little bit frustrated with each other.

662
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: The thing I want to know is, though, is Marcus

663
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: smart apparently was saying, you're all on that some bullsh

664
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Speaker 1: I want to know what he's talking about.

665
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 2: I don't know what that means.

666
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: I don't get what that means, you know, because who's

667
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: he saying that to? Who's he taking out on? Because

668
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, Like, no one on that Celtics team

669
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: has just tanked for the team, you know, no one's

670
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: been like, well, that's his fault. You know. Kember has

671
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: struggled at times, but he's been great. Jalen's been great

672
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: for the most part. Jason Tatum has been incredible. So

673
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,239
Speaker 1: who's Marcus smartt pointing the finger out?

674
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Speaker 2: Is We're why were we so damn sloppy? We gave

675
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: him twenty turn They had like three inbounds leads that

676
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: they threw the ball away and credit to the heat

677
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: defense and getting you know, there was some awesome plays,

678
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: but yeah, that shouldn't be happening in a conference finals game,

679
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: you know, in a game you really got to get

680
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: here sort of you're throwing it in on inbounds plays.

681
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: That's pretty embarrassing. My gut says is like, we're better

682
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 2: than this. This is some bullshit. Let's go, let's play

683
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: with a little more heart and play a little smarter.

684
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: Uh you know pun intended there from Marcus. But that's

685
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 2: my guess, or maybe he's I mean, I don't know.

686
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 4: Maybe he was catching a lot of flack I think

687
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Speaker 4: for being the guy who came out with the with

688
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Speaker 4: the quote, right, like he was known as the quote

689
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Speaker 4: and he had gone one for six with four turnovers

690
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 4: in the second half. It's kind of like, Marcus Smarty,

691
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Speaker 4: you the one who's on your bullsh a little bit here.

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Speaker 2: oOoOO they see it's a dissension. We're helping build a dissension.

693
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Speaker 2: This is I love a series like this though. I

694
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Speaker 2: love what a team is actually up to. Oh and

695
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 2: you can easily and you're not even lying when you

696
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: say that same team could be two. Yeah. Yeah, that's

697
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: pretty pretty exciting. I mean it makes game three. Hell,

698
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: I'll say it pretty pivotal for the Celtics. Yeah, ask me,

699
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: that's pivotal, man, that's absolutely pivotal. And they got to

700
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: get this on Saturday. Like Task said before, the big

701
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: great big break between game four. All right, well, is

702
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Speaker 2: there anything else to add to this? There's another really

703
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: enjoyable you know, these huge swings and runs going on

704
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 2: in these games and then right down in the wire

705
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: and big play after big play. Anything else to add

706
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 2: the heat are awesome. Right now.

707
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 4: They're ten and one so far and their one loss

708
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 4: is in an overtime game they lost by three, and

709
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler says, we haven't played a full forty eight

710
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 4: minutes yet, and I kind of think he's right that

711
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 4: heat can get better too. And that's uh, I would

712
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 4: say that that's something a little nerve racking for Boston.

713
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Speaker 1: One one thing I would be a little concerned about

714
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Speaker 1: for Boston, as I sort of referred to it Earli there.

715
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Speaker 1: If Duncan Romson and Tyler Hero both get it going

716
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: from downtown, uh, they're hard to stop. Because Duncan Romson's

717
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: start to the game last night, I think he hit

718
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: their first three to three pointers and then he hit

719
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: that one kind of in the corner a well where

720
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: it just kind of the ball came and he almost

721
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: like volleyball died into that.

722
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: That was incredible. That's Clay Thompson. Yeah, yeah, he didn't

723
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: dip the ball back down yet.

724
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: Know so, you know, so far in this series alone,

725
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: we haven't seen them both get really hot. But you know,

726
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: if Duncan Robinson's out there, then Tyler Hero comes out

727
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: and he just starts hitting threes. Then the Celtics could

728
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: be in a little bit of trouble there because it

729
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: just spreads the floor out so much, and then you've

730
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: got Bam inside and you've got Jimmy or whoever you know,

731
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: dragas can go and drive. So that's one thing I

732
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: think that the Celtics have perhaps just been a little

733
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: bit lucky with so far. But Tyler Hero again didn't

734
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: have a great game last night, But I'm going to

735
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: talk about his poise. He's so poised out for a

736
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: twenty year old kid, honestly, Like he grabs rebounds. He

737
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: goes in there and really can get those rebounds. You

738
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: can see he's a tiny little guy, but he goes

739
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: in there, gets those rebounds. And then when he has

740
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: the ball, very rarely, apart from that one time where

741
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler kind of fumbled it and lost it out

742
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Speaker 1: of bounds, so it was kind of on Jimmy anyway,

743
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: very rarely makes a bad decision with the ball, which

744
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: is incredible for a twenty year old to have that poise.

745
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, the poys, he dropped the Chris Paul Yo, yo, heart.

746
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: That's right, two of these conference finals in a twenty

747
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: year old and then through a beautiful past to Bam. Right.

748
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I'm so jealous of that twenty year

749
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: old kid out there.

750
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: Doing that just because he's twenty years old.

751
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, no, no, no, because like when I

752
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: was twenty, I was playing in men's league that I

753
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not you know, I wasn't that good

754
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: and really really I'm just I'm just like, I mean, like,

755
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: how's this kite is so good? So soon? You know,

756
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: it's it's scary, And.

757
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: As Bill Simmons points out, time after time after time.

758
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Speaker 5: Celtics could have had him, right, yeah, Celtics could be

759
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 5: U use a Tyler Hero right now.

760
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Speaker 1: For Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of

761
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: people revisiting the draft as well because Bam was fourteen.

762
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: I think Hero was thirteen. In the drug but you know,

763
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: the draft, I mean, who knows what the draft.

764
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Speaker 3: You should have thrown your name in that draft when

765
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 3: you were tiny. You never know, you could have got drafted,

766
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: you know.

767
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 4: I can just imagine Lee standing at the draft with

768
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Speaker 4: his arms hanging straight down outside of Madison Square.

769
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Speaker 3: Draft you Actually, you have to have a photo of

770
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Speaker 3: you outside Madison Square Garden like the real one.

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I'll get it for your right now.

773
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: Excellent, excellent. Anything else to add their tasks on this

774
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 2: one again as we head into Game three on Saturday.

775
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know that third quarter. I'm

776
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 3: still I'm still Brad seasons as well. Yeah, because that

777
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 3: I really do think the heat aren't going to blow

778
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 3: out the Celtics even if they do get hot. The

779
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: Celtics just have too much firepower. But yeah, the Celtics

780
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: need to hit a couple more shots, and it sure

781
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 3: looked that way with Kemba Walker on fire in the

782
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 3: first Marcus Smart still scorching. Yeah, no, no, there's nothing

783
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 3: else to add. There's nothing else Ad. Maybe it's because

784
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: Romeo Langford came in. Oh yeah, he played eighty one

785
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: second and then got hurt. That's the difference in this

786
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 3: series right now. A man by the name of Romeo

787
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788
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789
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Speaker 1: What a bet one of my hitting threees finally get

792
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Speaker 1: someone else.

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794
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,520
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795
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,399
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796
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,799
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864
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Speaker 7: he orders door Dash, he's got my address plugged into

865
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Speaker 7: the the app. So randomly, at least once a week,

866
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867
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868
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Speaker 7: on over ring the doorbell. Sometimes we see each other

869
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Speaker 7: and you know, wave, I think he may think that

870
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Speaker 7: I'm a DoorDash driver, Like, oh, my neighbor's driving DoorDash,

871
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Speaker 7: which is fine.

872
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Speaker 2: Does RAVI only order soup?

873
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Speaker 3: J I literally have a neighbor named Rob as well.

874
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Speaker 3: Oh really, we occasionally call him Rabbi soups.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we did to We call him.

876
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:41,359
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877
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 3: never comes out of his house.

878
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880
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Speaker 3: driver as well. I'm out there just hanging out pretending

881
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Speaker 3: to mow my lawn.

882
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Speaker 2: Awesome. Okay, let's get into the updown report sixty all right,

892
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 2: first one here. On Thursday, Raptors president of basketball operations

893
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: Masayu XII, who has won You're left on his contract,

894
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 2: said he has yet to enter discussions with team ownership

895
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 2: about an extension. Things are a little raw, Ujeri said

896
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: on a conference call with reporters. I'm gonna reflect a

897
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: little bit and we will address it when it's time

898
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: to address it. You guys could probably guess how some

899
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: Raptors fans reacted to this news to this headline yesterday,

900
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: Some freaking out. But let's throw it at you guys

901
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 2: up or down. I'll ask you like this, up and

902
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 2: down on the likely messi u Jeri staying in Toronto

903
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 2: into the future.

904
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: Herely, I think it's I can't possibly see the Raptors

905
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: somehow letting him go. Even if Messiah Jerry perhaps even

906
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 1: uses that a little bit of leverage to say, listen,

907
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: I'm in demand. That's just going to drive up his price.

908
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: And I think the Raptors would be crazy to not

909
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: pay him whatever he wants. Really, he's done an incredible

910
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: job with that franchise, and you know he look in

911
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: any job, a little bit of luck goes your way,

912
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: or you need a little bit of luck to go

913
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: your way, and it did when he basically traded Kyle

914
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: Larry to the Knicks, and then the Knicks pulled the deal,

915
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: pulled out of that deal, and it turned around. Kyle

916
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: Larry has become now potentially a Hall of Fame player.

917
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: And so that's almost like the sort of turning point

918
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: for the Raptors, which just happened under messiau Jery's watch.

919
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: He was apparently in the process of trying to blow

920
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: the team up, but instead they got Kyle Larry to

921
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: stay and then things just turned around there. Now you

922
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: look at things like the Kawhi Leonard trade when they

923
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: traded to Marta Rosen, you know, one of the most

924
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: popular players in franchise history. But obviously that worked out

925
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Speaker 1: for the Raptors. And just look at some of the

926
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 1: other things that he's done as far as the development

927
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: of players like Fred and Pascal and og n Anobi

928
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: as well. Who's all this has happened under Messiah Jery's watch,

929
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: so you can see he's obviously a smart guy, tries

930
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: things out, gets players to perform. And yeah, if the

931
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Speaker 1: Raptors decide, hey, we don't want Massageri's too expensive, then

932
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: he can basically walk into so many other organizations. And

933
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: I think the Raptors would be silly to let that happen.

934
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Speaker 1: I don't think they will let that happen. I think

935
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Speaker 1: they'll pay him basically whatever he wants, and it's just

936
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Speaker 1: a matter of coming to terms on a deal.

937
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Speaker 3: What do you think, tas I have no idea what

938
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Speaker 3: Messiuzeri wants, but obviously the Raptors will pay anything. I

939
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 3: think they would pay absolutely anything. What's the highest number

940
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 3: you can think of I'm not good with numbers, but

941
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 3: really high one they would pay that to him. It's

942
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 3: about me. I'm not going to try and speculate what

943
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 3: Messiujeri wants. I really don't think that. I personally it

944
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 3: was from outside looking in. Am I the body doctor,

945
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Speaker 3: my brain doctor. But I don't know what Massiajeri wants.

946
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Speaker 3: If he wants to leave, he wants to do something

947
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 3: in the us of A, then he's gonna leave. But

948
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Speaker 3: he's got a great situation there and I don't think

949
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 3: I don't think it would be on the raptors. Anything

950
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 3: that they wouldn't do, or anything that they wouldn't pay

951
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 3: him would be the reason that he would leave.

952
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: Right. So the question is then, why yesterday is he

953
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 2: saying haven't talked to ownership yet about an extension. And

954
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: you know what's the reason for that? Is that just

955
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 2: because it's a leverage play, Like Lee said, I think

956
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 2: there's to some extent, you'd be silly not to wait

957
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: till your deal's done. You're going to be in high

958
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: demand and that might just drive up when you're even

959
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: gonna get paid. I think the other part, too, is

960
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: the guy's a classy ass dude, you know, we've got

961
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: a chance to be around. It'll make them like messire

962
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: Jeri and I think a part of it is like

963
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 2: we just lost. Now I'm doing this. I do this

964
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: at the end of every season where I talk to

965
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Speaker 2: their porters. Obviously this one's a little different on Zoom,

966
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: but I'm not ready to get into that. I'm trying

967
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: to get my other guys, you know, paid and situated

968
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: because we're all on sort of the same contract deal.

969
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 2: I'm talking about GM, Bobby Webster and coach Nick Nurse

970
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So I think get a little

971
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 2: bit of that as well. He's like, don't worry about me.

972
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: I'm fine, we'll get to that. But Trey to you know,

973
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: do Raptors fans, some of them have a right to

974
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: be concerned at all that maybe Massi in not talking

975
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 2: ownership already on a contract extension means you know, he's

976
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: sort of seeing the next step in his career and

977
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 2: leaving forget about it. I feel like we're doing this

978
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: all the time with Messaia Jerry.

979
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 4: Is he gonna leave? Is he gonna leave? Is he

980
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 4: gonna go to the Knicks? He loves having his job

981
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 4: status speculated about he wants to be massigned and nned.

982
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 4: We saw it with Kawhi Leonard. You can eat anywhere

983
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 4: in the city for free as long as you'll stay around.

984
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 4: I don't know if he ever took him up on it,

985
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 4: but obviously he didn't stay around. I see there's now

986
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 4: Fred van Vliet and Eat trying to get him to

987
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 4: stick around at least one place. I think they should

988
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 4: have gone further and renamed Fleet Street for Fred van Vliet.

989
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 4: But you need to do something similar for Massi. Outside

990
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 4: of Kyle Lowry. He's the face of the franchise. You

991
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 4: want to keep him around. He's one of the best

992
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 4: gms in the league. And surely this is some sort

993
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 4: of a leverage negotiation tactic because you know, I'm been

994
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 4: trying to think of some really high numbers, just like tasks,

995
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 4: and I think Massi is worth every single one of them.

996
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 4: Like I was thinking about the number one million dollars

997
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 4: he would be worth that.

998
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: Hold on, I've got one here. DraftKings has paid out

999
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: billions of dollars since twenty twelve.

1000
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: But you know one franchise that didn't think he's worth

1001
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: all that money is the Denver Nuggets. That's basically why

1002
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: they let him go to Toronto.

1003
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 5: And look at the Nuggets are gonna go win a

1004
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 5: championship this yea, yeah, but you.

1005
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: Know that's the thing like that let him go and

1006
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: Missile has turned out to be great. Now he can

1007
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: basically get as much money as he wants out of anyone.

1008
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 1: I mean there's that, you know, that rumor about Washington

1009
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: because he's watched from there, But I don't think so,

1010
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: you know, you don't think it's.

1011
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 2: In point yeah that Ultimately, I think I agree with

1012
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: all you guys. The Raptors are going to give him

1013
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 2: whatever he wants to stay. The question will be does

1014
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 2: he just want to stay or does he look at

1015
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 2: something else as the next chapter in his career to

1016
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: be like, oh, let's see if I can go get

1017
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: the Wizards to a conference finals or a title, or

1018
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: I go do something else completely Heck, that guy could

1019
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 2: be in politics for all we know. Yeah, everyone wants

1020
00:44:58,960 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: to do.

1021
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 3: He can do ex act. I think if there's something

1022
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 3: in Washington or New York, it's probably something off the

1023
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 3: court that he's interested in. He has part of his

1024
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 3: agreement with the Toronto Raptors that they contribute to the

1025
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 3: Giants of Africa fund to off court things that he

1026
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 3: is passionate about. Right, And so if it's in a

1027
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 3: large city like Washington.

1028
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 5: D C.

1029
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: Where obviously politics are being run in the US, or

1030
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,479
Speaker 3: New York City, maybe there's something there for something sort

1031
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 3: of off the floor. But the reps have given it

1032
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,959
Speaker 3: all to him and he's given it all back. And yeah,

1033
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 3: it has nothing to do with the Raptors. I don't

1034
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 3: think it's it's something besides basketball.

1035
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 2: I think, oh, we got some breaking news here. Who says,

1036
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: be honest, it's official. Has won his second consecutive MVP.

1037
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: So there he goes. It is now official. This is

1038
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 2: no surprise by any means. The only surprises that he's

1039
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: not still playing here. We thought that might happen, might

1040
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 2: be given the award, of course, during during an off

1041
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 2: day between games of let's say, last round or even

1042
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: in the conference finals, or heck, maybe even to the finals,

1043
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: because everybody had the bucks going so far. But congratulations

1044
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: to him. That's a that's pretty impressive. Not a lot

1045
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: of back to back winners in NBA history. I don't

1046
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 2: know how many of the top of my head.

1047
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: Would it be Lebron's probably the last one. Oh no,

1048
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, Steph.

1049
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: Curry, Steph Curry did it.

1050
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

1051
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 2: We have had Nash to it. We've had Lebron do it.

1052
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 2: Like you said, Larry Bird. Of course, I guess there's

1053
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: what six or seven?

1054
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 5: Maybe yeah, something Nim Duncan did. Tim Duncan do back

1055
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 5: yep m MVP. Yeah, Yeah, there you go. Congrats to

1056
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 5: the honest. Slip that into the show, all right, next

1057
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 5: one here in the Updown Report, though, trademark attorney Josh

1058
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 5: Gerbin revealed on Thursday that Jimmy Butler had filed three

1059
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 5: trademarks for the Big Face coffee business that has made

1060
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 5: headlines in the bubble. We've talked a little bit about

1061
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 5: he's charging twenty dollars a cup and he's making some

1062
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 5: money there.

1063
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: The filings all were made about two weeks ago. They

1064
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 2: cost Jimmy buckets four thousand dollars in fees, four thousand

1065
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: dollars plus. Stuff's not cheap. But uh, let's ask you

1066
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,240
Speaker 2: trey up or down on Jimmy Butler's coffee hustle. Hereious

1067
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 2: little business.

1068
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: I am so up.

1069
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 4: Big Face coffee is for closers. I want a mug immediately.

1070
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 4: I don't care how much it costs me. Apparently it's

1071
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 4: twenty dollars for any size coffee you want from Jimmy

1072
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 4: Butler's Big Face Coffee. I don't know if they're going

1073
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 4: to keep that pricing structure the same when they actually

1074
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 4: opened some brick and mortar stores, but I would be

1075
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 4: there on opening day. It's just hilarious that this started

1076
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 4: as a joke, right, started as a joke, Come get

1077
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 4: your coffee from me.

1078
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 2: I like to make coffee, And now.

1079
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 4: He's, you know, investing some money to at least be

1080
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 4: the guy who owns the trademark for literally anything general housewares,

1081
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 4: including mugs and cups, general apparel. Apparently he's working with

1082
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 4: Lululemon on some shirts that say like Big Face Coffee. Ye,

1083
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 4: not a lot of design to it, but I would

1084
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 4: wear it. But he's also gonna be coming out with

1085
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 4: coffee beans, coffee grounds, candy bars, nuts, tea bags, loose

1086
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 4: leaf tea sandwiches, baked goods including scones, muffins, cupcakes, bagels, cakes, cookies, breads, scones,

1087
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 4: cinnamon rolls, muffets, marshmallow rice, treats. The guy's gonna be

1088
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 4: awake twenty four hours a day, which is good. Since

1089
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 4: he's a coffee shop owner. We know he likes working hard,

1090
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 4: we know he likes to be the man. Now he's

1091
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 4: got two full time jobs.

1092
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: This is impressive. Yeah, I like, let's set the over

1093
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 2: under for when we see here on a YouTube show

1094
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: Trey Kirby wearing a big face coffee T shirt. As

1095
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: soon as those things are available, I'll set it at like,

1096
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 2: I don't know, three days, I don't know, you'll have

1097
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: exprout take a shift. Yeah, the only question I can't

1098
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: wait to see you in a big face coffee shirt. Yeah,

1099
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 2: you're right. It is a simple design. But that's in

1100
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 2: right now. Speaking of simple design, so for everybody during

1101
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 2: his slave on YouTube, we'll get this up very very surely.

1102
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, what do you think task you're a coffee guy,

1103
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 2: are you all in on Jimmy's side?

1104
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 3: Hustle for sure? And the simple design I think is, yeah,

1105
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 3: it's in with the coffee world. I think he's going

1106
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: to go with the stamp look for all of his

1107
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 3: coffee cups and T shirts, you know, just a quick bang,

1108
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 3: big face stamps. So that's hot. That's hot right now,

1109
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 3: I know Jimmy has the temper sure of what's going

1110
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,240
Speaker 3: on the trends in the fashion world. So yeah, he knows.

1111
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 3: So he came into the Starters studio with a T

1112
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 3: shirt showing off his guns. That was, you know, a

1113
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 3: barely a tea, you know, very very short top of

1114
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 3: the tea because he was showing those the b steps.

1115
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 3: He knows, he knows fashion. He knows it, you know. Yeah,

1116
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 3: he's how many how many products did you say they're

1117
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 3: trail like five billion?

1118
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: He said, scones twice. I did scones twice. Hey, it's

1119
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 2: in the list, you know.

1120
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 4: And scones were a major plot point in the most

1121
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 4: recent season of Curb Your Enthusiasm, A divisive baked good.

1122
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 4: If you ask me upper down on scones, I'm going

1123
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,919
Speaker 4: sideways because they're fifty to fifty good, fifty to fifty horrible. Yeah,

1124
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 4: a bad scone is the worst thing you can get.

1125
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 2: I agree with that. Ie.

1126
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: If it's too draw and too salty, for sure, But

1127
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: if you go for the traditional British scones with jam

1128
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: and cream, oh, I mean the unbeatable, just unbeatable. I've

1129
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: cooked a feel of eyes at him myself. And not

1130
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: bad if you get that whipp cream sal fresh. Thing

1131
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: is you got to eat them as soon as they

1132
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: come out of the oven, though. You just can't really

1133
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: wait till the later the day when they cool down

1134
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: or even the next day. You just got to eat

1135
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: them straight away. So they're fine.

1136
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 3: But what about at two thirty? If Jimmy maakes them

1137
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 3: at two thirty, can you eat him in the morning?

1138
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 3: I think that's okay.

1139
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: Seven If he makes at two thirty in the morning,

1140
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 2: can can we have it at eating that's.

1141
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 3: A question you not with hummus, but no raisins.

1142
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: Let's ban raisins from from scones. Sure, Oh my god.

1143
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 2: I have raisins entirely.

1144
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1145
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: You get him out of get out.

1146
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: Of my trail mix, get him out of my Cereal,

1147
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 2: get him out of my scones.

1148
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,919
Speaker 1: Do you think Jimmy Jimmy's been pretty ruthless too about

1149
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: his pricing that no one gets a discount, no one.

1150
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 2: Gets I love it. I love it.

1151
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: What about go on druggage because there's such buddy buddies

1152
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: right now you think he's given gore and at least

1153
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: like just all right, just don't tell anyone else but

1154
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: you can have this one for free or for ten

1155
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: bucks at least you think no, no, no.

1156
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 2: Absolutely not no, And he should all these products that

1157
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 2: trade took us through all the merchandise. I want one

1158
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 2: price for everything. I want a T shirt to cost

1159
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 2: the exact same thing as a scone. I want a

1160
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 2: cup of coffee to cost the exact same thing as

1161
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 2: the coffee mug. Everything. I don't know what the price is.

1162
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 2: Let's just keep it a twenty twenty dollars.

1163
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 4: For everything's twenty dollars. I mean it all eventually pays

1164
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 4: for itself, right Like if you're paying twenty dollars for

1165
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 4: a simple cup of drip coffee, that finances the twenty

1166
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 4: dollars for an embroidered sweatshirt. Who knows what it is.

1167
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 4: It's a great business model. There's a high overhead to

1168
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 4: opening a coffee shop. The equipment is expensive. That's why

1169
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 4: you got to charge the premium price.

1170
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: But does Jimmy Butler have a big face.

1171
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 4: I don't think of him as a big face guy,

1172
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 4: normal size face.

1173
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: To me, he's big, hairy face right now. I like

1174
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: that that uncouth sort of bead mustache. Theres is maybe

1175
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: expanding it a little bit, but otherwise this is growing. Yeah.

1176
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 2: So okay, So I was going to ask you, Trey,

1177
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: because you are the most out of all of us

1178
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 2: in the NO. I was like, what does big face

1179
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 2: yeah mean? I thought there might be another meaning to

1180
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 2: it or something like that. I, you know, because I'm old,

1181
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 2: have no idea, But you don't know either. It sounds

1182
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 2: like you think it might just be his face. But

1183
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: he was just talking about the size something face coffee.

1184
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: If anybody's gonna have a coffee called big face coffee,

1185
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 2: it should be Kelly olynic Is that guy gigantic.

1186
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: Face big gin coffee? Maybe?

1187
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, big chin? All right, next one, final one, I

1188
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 2: should say during.

1189
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 3: The rude Rude Dog just chimed in and said, big

1190
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 3: face means cash money.

1191
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, so during a perfect I figured it

1192
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 2: meant something. It doesn't mean Kelly Olymics face.

1193
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 3: Are we sure does it mean cash money? We don't know.

1194
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 3: We're taking Rude Dog's work for it, but we'll take it.

1195
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 2: Come in a Rude Dog Dog Final one. During last

1196
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 2: night's Game two, it took all of about ninety seconds

1197
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 2: for the broadcast to start talking about Chris Dudley. Yes,

1198
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: that Chris Dudley they're talking about. During Game two of

1199
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 2: Eastern Corfins Finals, Celtics heat the old Knick center Chris Dudley,

1200
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 2: who is definitely best known for getting dunked on by

1201
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,479
Speaker 2: Shaquille O'Neal and just absolutely embarrassed. Jeff Van Gundy called

1202
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 2: Dudley quote a very good center, and there was some

1203
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 2: blowback from Mark Jackson. Really very good center.

1204
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 5: Okay, you guys saw Chris Dudley play doctor Crash as they.

1205
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 2: Call him on Basketball Reference. What yeah, what I know?

1206
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 2: So let's start with you, tass. Are you up and

1207
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 2: down on Chris Dudley, former Nick center being considered a

1208
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 2: very good center? That quote from JBG, What do you think?

1209
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm thumbs up on that. We just talked about

1210
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 3: the nineteen nineties. What is a good center in the

1211
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 3: nineteen nineties. A big guy who can take up space

1212
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 3: and who can guard the other team's post player. That

1213
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 3: makes him very good. It doesn't matter what he does

1214
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 3: at the other end. That's what very good was defined

1215
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 3: as for a center. Believe Kristin Guilford Dudley. Kristin Guilford Dudley,

1216
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 3: what a name is?

1217
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 2: Uh?

1218
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's that's the definition of him, big body. Yeah,

1219
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 3: he's got to get dunked on, you know why, because

1220
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 3: he plays good positional defense. And that's why he stayed

1221
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 3: in the league for sixteen years. That's a heck of

1222
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 3: her career. For for Dudley, I do wonder didn't he

1223
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 3: spent three years in New York with the Knicks. Did

1224
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 3: he played with Mark Jackson? Because that's cold for Mark

1225
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 3: Jackson to just say he's not a good center even

1226
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 3: though he played with the dude.

1227
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 2: I can check right now. I don't know if he

1228
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 2: played it. I think it was late it was late

1229
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 2: ninety when he was there. I don't know. I don't

1230
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 2: think Mark was still there.

1231
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 3: Okay, Dudley was ninety seven to two thousand, so maybe

1232
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 3: Mark was on the Pacers by that point.

1233
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like he was. It looks like he

1234
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 2: was all right.

1235
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 3: Well, Kristin Guilford Dudley apparent. According according to Liz Burns,

1236
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 3: Guildford is his mother's maiden name. Okay, that's his middle name.

1237
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 3: That's that's cool, that's cool. U. I thought he was fine,

1238
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 3: all right. Well, see, no one will ever call him

1239
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 3: good now. Back then, I mean Are you a greg

1240
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 3: oaster Tag type of guy?

1241
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 2: You know, well, that's the thing.

1242
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 4: Chris Dudley was the joke center of the NBA until

1243
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 4: greg oaster Tag showed up.

1244
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 2: Chris Dudley sucks, man, This is terrible.

1245
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 4: Brought Chris Dudley in a YouTube search, and it takes

1246
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 4: fifteen highlights before you get to a Chris Dudley actual highlight.

1247
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 4: Everything else is him brick and free throws are getting

1248
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 4: dunked on by shack. It is fun, though, to watch

1249
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 4: him try and shoot free throws because it's almost a

1250
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 4: guaranteed lane violation. He holds the NBA record he missed

1251
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 4: five free throws in a single trip to the line

1252
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 4: because people kept jumping over the line, and then he

1253
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 4: just kept missing. You just kept missing every single time

1254
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 4: Chris Dudley. Even Mark Jackson was like, excuse me, an

1255
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 4: NBA player dissing another NBA player.

1256
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 2: You ever see that unless it's Chris Dudley.

1257
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: Jeffan Gundy was trying to do a bit of backpedaling

1258
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: to not say like he was a dudd He was

1259
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 1: trying to beef him up, or beef him up, built

1260
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: him up a little bit there. I mean, look, Dudley,

1261
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: he hung around in the league. I'll say that he

1262
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: averaged nearly ten rebounds a game for quite a few

1263
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: seasons there, and he averaged over two blocks as well

1264
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 1: a couple of season there, So he contributed.

1265
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 2: That's what Tassa seeing he played the rule of.

1266
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 5: A naineties center sixte years crazy, I mean, by.

1267
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 2: The way, okay, he didn't really play sixteen years. I know,

1268
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 2: that's what officially says. He had like three seasons where

1269
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 2: he barely played, Like he played like three games. Do

1270
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 2: we count those?

1271
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: Well?

1272
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 2: He plays on a roster.

1273
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: He played eight hundred and eighty six games. Do you

1274
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: think if you can hang around for nearly a thousand

1275
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: games in the NBA, you're you're at least fulfilling a

1276
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:44,439
Speaker 1: roll out there? Yes, yes, you know, respect to Chris

1277
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: Dudley for being able to survive.

1278
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,919
Speaker 3: Thirty eight million smacks is what he made throughout his career.

1279
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 3: Pretty good for her name.

1280
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: But of course you do remember him four more, just

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Speaker 1: those like the Shack dunk and the misfree throwsers, Like

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00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: how did this guy get better at shooting freak throws?

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00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 1: One getting dunked on by Shack? I mean, there's a

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00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: million guys. He got dunked on by Shack, but because

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00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: he throws the ball ame off to.

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Speaker 2: It's like humiliated.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: What do you think the most points per game Dudley

1289
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 2: had in one season? Uh, you know during his.

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00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: Career, if you just had to guest lee, he said

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00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: he's a great redive and a half you know probably you.

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00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 2: Know, actually averaged in sixty one games, that's enough. In

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00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 2: the ninety ninety one season for the New Jersey Nets,

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00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 2: he averaged seven point one points per game and eight

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00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 2: point four rebounds per game, with two and a half blocks.

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Speaker 5: Yeah that's good. I'm not sure it's very good. That's decent.

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Speaker 1: Hey, if you're playing fantasy basketball back there, you're getting

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00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: him for those blocks.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sure, it's gonna kill your free throw your

1300
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: feeling the sweat and drafting Chris du No.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, he's like grabbing him off the wai

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Speaker 1: of one. But let me just I don't know if

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00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: you've got it there. What was his field goal percentage

1304
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: as well there.

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00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 2: In that season?

1306
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I imagine, Oh not good?

1307
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 2: Oh non talk. Oh no you thought he was a

1308
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 2: good shooter, Yeah no, no, being six eleven he shot

1309
00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 2: forty point eight percent.

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00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: No, No, I didn't think he was a good shooter,

1311
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: but I thought it just because he's on thet he's

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00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: getting dunks and things.

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00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 2: It's actually astonishing how bad a shoot he was. Shooter

1314
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 2: he was for being just a giant dude, six eleven

1315
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 2: he shot. He shot forty one percent in his sixteen

1316
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 2: year career from the floor and not much better at

1317
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: the free throw line, obviously forty five.

1318
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 3: A rare guy that went to Yale and played.

1319
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, profession guys smarter than all of us, no doubt,

1320
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 2: no doubt. All right, did you think we were gonna

1321
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 2: get that much christ to talk on today's podcast? I

1322
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 2: bet you didn't. Okay, let's take a we got two

1323
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 2: of the night. Still we'll set up tonight's game one

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00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: of the Western Conference Finals. But first our final quick break.

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Speaker 3: Hi, I'm tas Melius from No Dunks on the Athletic.

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Speaker 2: Okay, time for tweet of the night.

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01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 3: Tweet o the night.

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01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 2: Wow, Twitt, Well, there's no actual tweet for tweeting the night.

1355
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 2: Tweeting the night.

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01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have a controversial situation we need to address

1357
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 4: from yesterday. We were talking about the All NBA teams

1358
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 4: yesterday and Lee questioned Russell Westbrook's inclusion on this. So

1359
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 4: I hit back in my said, come on, Lee, wasn't

1360
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 4: Russell Westbrook in your top five MVP ballot. During the hiatus,

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01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 4: Lee signaled for the podcasters challenge. He's instantly toiling his fingers.

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01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 2: We got to check the teams. We gotta got to

1363
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 2: seekcas and review the footage.

1364
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 4: So we had to. We had to do it. He

1365
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 4: gets one Podcaster's challenge per episode. He used that, let's

1366
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 4: take a look at what actually happened.

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01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: Well, they've got Luca there. I think they're a chance.

1368
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: So I would have him number three, Davis four, James Harder.

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01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: Probably wouldn't have him my top five.

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01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 2: Probably not really.

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01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I honestly think Westbrook since the since

1372
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: the year turn twenty twenty, I think Westbrook was the

1373
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: Rocket's best player this season From twenty twenty. I mean, Harden,

1374
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: you know, he puts up those numbers that we always see,

1375
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: but I just don't actually think he was that impactful

1376
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: this season. After after Russell Westbrook and him kind of

1377
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: figured out what was going on, I think.

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01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: West who would you throw in the fist five? Yeh

1379
01:01:58,720 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 2: throw that final vote too?

1380
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: Like kawhiy.

1381
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 4: Controversial, controversial, But the call on the podcast was that

1382
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 4: Lee had Russell Westbrook in his top five NBA players

1383
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 4: and after review he did not in the top five.

1384
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 4: He just said Russell Westbrook was the Rockets best player.

1385
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 4: I asked Steve Javy about this and he agrees.

1386
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 2: Oh oh, Steve Javi agreed.

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01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, he agrees that. Uh, the podcasters made the right

1388
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 4: call in this right. So right, Well, there take the

1389
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 4: l on that one. Lee, you didn't have Russell Westbrook

1390
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 4: in your top five?

1391
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 2: You know what it was?

1392
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: It was closer than I thought, though. I was really

1393
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 1: wrecking my brain yesterday. I think it. Did I really

1394
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: say that because I'm like, you know, you say some

1395
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 1: dumb things. We've been doing a million podcasts. It's a

1396
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: crazy year. Maybe I said it.

1397
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, you know, I actually thought you said it too.

1398
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 2: Because it feels like something we've gone through, like the

1399
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 2: first four and you say Harden's not in your top five.

1400
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 2: That's a bit of a shock to everybody. You make

1401
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 2: the case for Westbrook. But then I follow it up

1402
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 2: with Okay, well who's number five? Yeah, you could definitely

1403
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 2: see you Lee just going we'll just make it Russell

1404
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 2: Westbrook because it's like, who cares, it's the fifth place vote,

1405
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 2: And in my head I sort of thought that's how

1406
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 2: it's gone, like, yeah, okay, sure it's Westbrook at fine,

1407
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 2: but obviously, you know, you more leaned into a Kauai.

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01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 2: I guess it was ultimate. Yeah, Oh my goodness, Wait

1409
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 2: to check the tape there, all right, so ye, man,

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01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 2: that's a classy there, tray classic. Go back check the tape.

1411
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 2: You know you were you were calling him out yesterday. Look,

1412
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 2: I was even like, I think you did, Lee, I

1413
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 2: honestly did. But then we talked about like most improved,

1414
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 2: you had a Westbrook super high and maybe more confusing

1415
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 2: we say too much. No, I can keep trying, but

1416
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 2: you're all right. Way to use that challenge, man? Did

1417
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 2: you use the challenge? No, actually used it perfectly late

1418
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 2: in the podcast here. Yeah, you didn't You didn't use

1419
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 2: it too early.

1420
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 4: So possession of the mic and you get one free

1421
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 4: take right here.

1422
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, get them free take here, you go,

1423
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 2: take what you want?

1424
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 1: What do I want? What do I want?

1425
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook at.

1426
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 3: The top.

1427
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 1: Yanisko one win, three MVPs in a row.

1428
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a mild take, but I like to take nonetheless,

1429
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: all right, we're almost done here. We got a game.

1430
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 2: We got a game on tonight, finally starting up the

1431
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 2: Western Conference Finals, nine pm Eastern on TNT here on

1432
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 2: a Friday night. By the way, we will be back

1433
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 2: on Saturday morning at ten am Eastern live on YouTube

1434
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 2: to discuss the game in any other news But task,

1435
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 2: what's one thing you're watching for in game one here

1436
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 2: tonight between the Nuggets and the Lakers.

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01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to be watching the Joker and what

1438
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 3: he does against the Lakers big front line. This is

1439
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 3: going to be a tough series, I think for the Joker.

1440
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 3: But what will be easy for him is if he

1441
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 3: wants to take three after three, after three after three,

1442
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 3: Because I think at the beginning of the games, when

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01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 3: JaVale McGee and Dwight Howard play a lot of minutes

1444
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 3: at the five, They're not gonna want to guard a

1445
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 3: three point shooter. It's just not in their blood. I

1446
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 3: do think Javeil and Dwight and Anthony Davis are going

1447
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 3: to do a good job on Jokich overall, they are

1448
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 3: going to feel like this is there series to go

1449
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 3: out and be big men. Uh and Anthony Davis is

1450
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 3: gonna go out Joker as you know, a couple of

1451
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 3: the top bigs in the game. But Joker could let

1452
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 3: it fly. And I do think because of the star

1453
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 3: power on the Lakers, with Lebron being you know, one

1454
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 3: one A whatever you want to call him, I think

1455
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 3: Joker kind of has to play out play a d

1456
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 3: and if he's going to do that, he's got to

1457
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 3: let him fly. He's just got to let those three

1458
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 3: pointers fly. He has been more apt to do that

1459
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 3: in the bubble than he was in the regular season,

1460
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 3: so maybe he does that. I'm just gonna be watching

1461
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 3: that because I think that's just gonna unlock the offense.

1462
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 3: If he's letting him.

1463
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 2: Go yoll kitch over underline for points in Game one tonight,

1464
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 2: it's only twenty two and a half. It's you know,

1465
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 2: not that not that high. Actually, like Tasa san for

1466
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 2: the for the Nuggets, chances moving forward could be difficult though,

1467
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 2: like tasaid too, there's a lot of bigs that can

1468
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 2: throw on him. Maybe he'll just come down to whether

1469
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 2: that three ball is falling again and it has been

1470
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 2: through all the playoffs forty four percent from distance. But

1471
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 2: uh yeah, I think I would take the over twenty

1472
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 2: three points. I don't think he could fall into that. Wait,

1473
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 2: he's been playing right now, but that's okay.

1474
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 3: He only average eighteen and a half against them in

1475
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 3: the games of the regular season, but you know, different times.

1476
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 2: Different times, different times, Right, I'm with task.

1477
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 4: That's got to be a huge game from Jokic because

1478
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 4: you imagine the Lakers are going to come out in

1479
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 4: their standard alignments and once eventually they're going to go

1480
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 4: to Anthony Davis playing the five, and that's gonna be

1481
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 4: tough for Yokic to make plays from the perimeter. He'll

1482
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 4: be able to do it against the McGee's and the

1483
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 4: Dwights on the Lakers, but Game one is a game

1484
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 4: no doubt that Denver can steal. They are in a

1485
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 4: little bit more of a rhythm. It's been a while

1486
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 4: since La has played. We know that Lebron has now

1487
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 4: taught Anthony Davis that you maybe need to chill a

1488
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 4: little bit in the first game. So we need to

1489
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 4: see a full effort from Denver. We need to see

1490
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 4: them go out and really take this game by the

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Speaker 4: Horns and try and get a lead in this series.

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Speaker 4: That'd be almost unprecedented for the Denver Nuggets to be

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Speaker 4: in control of things, and I think they can do

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Speaker 4: it by just keeping the rhythm they had and keeping

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Speaker 4: the extra effort that they showed against the Clippers.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think that was the main key was.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they made adjustments defensively, they figured things out offensively,

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Speaker 4: but they were really playing playoff intensity basketball for the

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Speaker 4: entirety of those last three games against the other LA team.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely so, Lee. What do you think does Paul

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01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 2: Millsap pick up his first career playoff win against the

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Speaker 2: Lebron James team tonight.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. I think. Actually, Lebron is not

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01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: going to go out and just give this one to

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Speaker 1: the Nuggets. I think he's like, all right, let's let's

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01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 1: just go out and win this game and set the

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Speaker 1: tone from the start. Because Lebron throughout his career has

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01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 1: had five Lebron sweeps where he loses that first game

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01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: and then wins the next four. Two in this series alone,

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Speaker 1: of course, to go back to the finals against the

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Speaker 1: Thunder he did it, against the Bulls, he did it,

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01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 1: and there was another one. I sup for it the

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Speaker 1: other day. Anyway, whatever it is, so I think he

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Speaker 1: just knows. It's like, let's not give Denver any hope

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Speaker 1: in this series. Let's try to kill them from the

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Speaker 1: start and get to the finals as fresh as possible.

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Speaker 1: So I'm expecting the Lakers and Lebron to just come

1518
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: out tonight and just be like, let's get this one guys,

1519
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: let's wain and stop this series off on the road

1520
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Speaker 1: foot so we don't have to come from behind, right.

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Speaker 2: Everything coming out of Lebron's mouth or Lakers camp is

1522
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 2: definitely showing a lot of respect to the Nuggets. They

1523
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 2: keep talking about how they can't take them lightly. They're

1524
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 2: the real deal, obviously, has so much fight in them,

1525
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 2: coming back from three to one both times and within games. Yeah,

1526
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 2: he's saying all the right things, but we've seen Lebron

1527
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 2: chill in game once before, so we'll find out tonight

1528
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Speaker 2: nine pm. Etern On TNT can't wait. Hopefully it's another

1529
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 2: great game, and they just continue throughout the entire conference

1530
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 2: finals and then into the finals. A lot of fun

1531
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Speaker 1: Just before you, just before you heard it.

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Speaker 2: Here first, have a great time. Turn up. Love you guys,

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Speaker 2: awesome Lee.

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Speaker 1: I think you wanted to say something, well, I've just

1550
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 1: got the photo of outside the draft here right there.

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01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:25,560
Speaker 2: We seen this one before. Yeah, that's that's your seating consultant.

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Speaker 1: The seating consultant, that's right. Yeah. And I've got my

1553
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Speaker 1: Macey's medium brown bag.

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Speaker 2: There as well.

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Speaker 3: You wearing some some morals there, yeah, yeah, hiking boots.

1556
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. I've been on a trip to South America,

1557
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Speaker 1: i think, and I've come back from that on the

1558
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Speaker 1: stuff on New York on the way home. There you go.

1559
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Speaker 2: Where in the world is les? All right, let's call

1560
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 2: it fast quote for ah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks very much for joining us, and remember congrats

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Speaker 3: to jan two time m VP of very deserving m VP.

1563
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 3: Doesn't matter what happened in the play offs.

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Speaker 2: Folks, raise the day. People. You could say oooh.

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Speaker 6: Every day, and I be happy every minute.

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Speaker 2: It's been so long that you're the one of waiting for.

1567
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Speaker 3: It's happened already. It's gonna be Grevy