Speaker 1: The Clippers are still searching for their first win with
Speaker 1: James Harden, while Philadelphia post the Beard is absolutely thriving,
Speaker 1: especially Tyrese Maxi. The Bucks and the Pelicans both mired
Speaker 1: in their own struggles. And then we got surprises galore
Speaker 1: at the top of the Western Conference, Minnesota, Dallas, Houston
Speaker 1: all rolling at this early juncture of the season. We
Speaker 1: get into all of that now here on this League Uncut.
Speaker 2: Welcome to this League Uncut. Can you rule of twenty
Speaker 2: four hour NBA news?
Speaker 1: This's you, Chris Hans.
Speaker 2: It's time, work's time, it's some time. This League Uncut
Speaker 2: is underway and on fire. This should be a good one.
Speaker 1: Welcome in everyone to the latest edition of This League Uncut.
Speaker 1: Mark Stein here with Chris Haynes. We are taping on
Speaker 1: a Sunday night, so it's Monday morning that this is
Speaker 1: actually this podcast has made its way to your phone.
Speaker 1: Crazy Sunday night, Crazy good Sunday night in the NBA.
Speaker 1: I know Sundays are supposed to belong exclusively to the NFL,
Speaker 1: but I think hoop junkies like us and everybody listening,
Speaker 1: it was hard to know where to look on this
Speaker 1: Sunday night there were so many games and so many
Speaker 1: interesting outcomes. The Warriors are losing at home to Minnesota
Speaker 1: as we speak, that's late in the fourth quarter. Is
Speaker 1: that going to be another huge win for the Timberwolves.
Speaker 1: The MAVs went to New Orleans and rung up one
Speaker 1: hundred thirty six points after scoring one hundred and forty
Speaker 1: four against the Clippers. The high octane Pacers, and I
Speaker 1: don't know how many times we've said that over the years,
Speaker 1: they go to Philly and lose Tyrese Maxi fifty points
Speaker 1: on the same Just mere hours after the Clippers. In
Speaker 1: James Harden's home debut, the Clippers lose at home to
Speaker 1: the one in eight Memphis Grizzlies. The Houston Rockets people
Speaker 1: beat the Denver Nuggets, dealing the defending champions just their
Speaker 1: second loss this season. Miami comes back from a zillion
Speaker 1: points down to beat Victor Wen Minyama and Co. In
Speaker 1: San Antonio. The thunder go to Phoenix and get a win.
Speaker 1: The Suns still can't get all their guys on the
Speaker 1: floor injury issues there. Devin Booker didn't play tonight and
Speaker 1: Bradley Beal appeared to be ailing as well. So I mean,
Speaker 1: there are a zillion different places that we can dig
Speaker 1: in here again, I mean, this is a robust Sunday
Speaker 1: night schedule. Chris Haynes, I suspect knows where I want
Speaker 1: to begin, and it's where we began multiple recent episodes.
Speaker 1: The Clippers. Okay, they lost their first three games with Harden.
Speaker 1: Those were all on the road. They went to Madison Square,
Speaker 1: Garden lost to the Knicks. They went to Brooklyn for
Speaker 1: a hardened reunion game against the Nets. Lost, That came
Speaker 1: to Dallas and the Mavericks hit them with an absolute offensive. Haymaker, Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: those are all on the road. This was again James
Speaker 1: Harden's home debut, and they lose to Memphis one in eight.
Speaker 1: Memphis goes in there and gets a one oh five
Speaker 1: one oh one win. Is it fair? Chris Haynes too?
Speaker 1: Is it already a crisis in Clipperland? An Owen four
Speaker 1: start to the James Harden era and he he he
Speaker 1: doesn't look like he is in peak shape. I think
Speaker 1: it's fair to say. I mean, Tyleru, I mean, what
Speaker 1: would you say to ty Lou if he asked your advice?
Speaker 1: Right now?
Speaker 3: All right? So the first question I'll answer, is this
Speaker 3: a crisis. It's hard for me to label anything a
Speaker 3: crisis this early in the season, but it is alarming.
Speaker 3: And what would I say to ty Lou. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of cooks in the kitchen, particularly when you're talking
Speaker 3: about that starting lineup, and I think it's fair.
Speaker 1: It's got a change, right, and they can't keep doing this.
Speaker 3: I don't think you can. I do not think you can.
Speaker 3: And yes, you know I say that, and I say,
Speaker 3: it's still early. You know, sometimes you want to give
Speaker 3: teams time to jail, and give rotations and mixtures time
Speaker 3: to jail. But you know, look what Darvin Ham did early.
Speaker 3: He he did this. Darvin Ham, remember he sat rest
Speaker 3: towards the early part of the season last season with
Speaker 3: wrestled with the Lakers, put him on the bench. Didn't
Speaker 3: call it a the motion, called it a realignment. And
Speaker 3: now he did it again the same time, same time
Speaker 3: a year later, did with Austin Reeves last game and
Speaker 3: Austin came out and played phenomenally, probably his best basketball
Speaker 3: all season off the bench. So there, you know, it
Speaker 3: depends on the type of team you have. If there
Speaker 3: if there's championship expectations, then the urgency, more urgency there.
Speaker 3: And as it pertains to the Clippers, you know they
Speaker 3: have championship aspirations, and so I think ty Lu will
Speaker 3: probably have to make a realignment somewhere. I just don't
Speaker 3: see them gelling. And then when it comes to James Harden,
Speaker 3: yes he's not in peak shape. He's he's a really
Speaker 3: good shape, but there's one thing. It's one thing to
Speaker 3: be in really good shape and then to be in
Speaker 3: NBA game shape mid season. Fo him, he's not there,
Speaker 3: He's working his way in. I can pretty much guess
Speaker 3: that if there's going to be a shakeup in that
Speaker 3: start lineup, it won't be with Harden. I could pretty
Speaker 3: certainly guess that. So I just don't know the timeframe
Speaker 3: that Tyler has, but I'll be able to ask him
Speaker 3: that question pretty soon. I'm traveling tomorrow to Denver. I
Speaker 3: have the Nuggets Clippers game Tuesday night, so.
Speaker 1: I can't wait for the next one. Today is gonna
Speaker 1: be good, but I really can't wait for the next
Speaker 1: one because I love when you get to go on
Speaker 1: the road, you get to see the Clippers, you get
Speaker 1: to see the Nuggets, and you get to come back
Speaker 1: here and tell us everything you heard I mean, but look,
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I was alarmed for the
Speaker 1: Clippers after Friday Night's game in Dallas, and as I
Speaker 1: mentioned the last time we got together, I was so
Speaker 1: I mean, I really needed two of me on Friday
Speaker 1: night because I had TV duties on the Pelicans Rockets broadcast,
Speaker 1: and that meant that I couldn't go see the Clippers
Speaker 1: when they were in my city, and I really wanted
Speaker 1: to go see them, not expecting a game like that.
Speaker 1: And the MAVs hit them with a thirty five to
Speaker 1: four knockout punch in the first half and rang up
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty four points. And after the game,
Speaker 1: tylu said, quote, We're just not big enough, And that
Speaker 1: quote just jumped off the page to me, because the
Speaker 1: Mavericks are high optane and when Luka Doncic and Kyrie
Speaker 1: Irving are clicking like they have, especially these last two games,
Speaker 1: the MAVs can put up a lot of points. And
Speaker 1: this is exactly the blueprint. This is the way for
Speaker 1: the Mavericks to succeed is to just be a crazy
Speaker 1: scoring team. But the MAVs are super small. The MAVs
Speaker 1: on Wednesday night without Derek Lively got pounded for seventy
Speaker 1: two points in the paint, and the MAVs have had
Speaker 1: trouble points in the paint all season. They've been at
Speaker 1: the bottom of the lead. And so for the Clippers
Speaker 1: to come away from that, for tylu to come away
Speaker 1: from that game lamenting how small his team is. And
Speaker 1: obviously they've lost Mason Plumley, and definitely they really only
Speaker 1: have Zoobotch now as a you know, certifiable center. They're
Speaker 1: gonna have to go out and get somebody else, and
Speaker 1: they just, man, they don't have a ton of assets
Speaker 1: to go do that. So I mean, I I don't
Speaker 1: think it's too soon for crisis talking. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I and you'll have a much better handle after you
Speaker 1: see these guys in person. I can't wait. I can't
Speaker 1: wait to hear what you see and what you hear,
Speaker 1: because I mean, just I knew it was gonna take
Speaker 1: a minute, but I I mean, I just I never
Speaker 1: thought they were gonna struggle like this. I mean this Memphis.
Speaker 1: Memphis has been an absolute mess with no John Morant
Speaker 1: and no Brandon Clark and no Steven Adams and you know,
Speaker 1: one and eight start and Taylor Jenkins went off on
Speaker 1: the rest the other night, just got fine. I mean,
Speaker 1: I like you would have thought Memphis at home is
Speaker 1: the perfect way for the Clippers to start building something here.
Speaker 1: And and now they got Denver.
Speaker 3: And and I think they're big. They're big. Issue is
Speaker 3: definitely their biggs, But I think it extends beyond just
Speaker 3: a center. You know, they're they're small all across the board.
Speaker 3: You know, even with Paul George and Kawhi Leonard, you're
Speaker 3: asking one of those two to play the power forward position.
Speaker 3: And you know, just face it, these are all perimeter players,
Speaker 3: all of them. And I know the NBA, the way
Speaker 3: the NBA is going right now, positionless basketball. You could
Speaker 3: just put five guys out there on the court, but
Speaker 3: you're still at a disadvantage even if you have one
Speaker 3: big in there. You're you're asking people to do things
Speaker 3: that they're not accustomed to doing on a routine basis,
Speaker 3: And so you know they have problems in that regard.
Speaker 3: But you know, really right now is just a cohesion situation?
Speaker 3: You don't you know, is there too much of a
Speaker 3: redundancy in talent? You know, these are all things that
Speaker 3: we're going to I guess five I mean, there's probably
Speaker 3: enough to see that we found out that there's too
Speaker 3: much of redundancy, So I think there definitely has to
Speaker 3: be a change. Now what that change is, I'm not sure,
Speaker 3: but I just don't know if they can get by
Speaker 3: with that starting five.
Speaker 1: And what makes it tough is they started the season well.
Speaker 1: I mean, it looked like things were clicking, and man,
Speaker 1: they have just taken a massive step back and again,
Speaker 1: just you know, to rub salt in the wound, I
Speaker 1: mean tonight, I mean, Tyrese Maxi didn't just score fifty
Speaker 1: points for Philly in this track meet win over Indiana.
Speaker 1: After the game, Joe l Embiid, the reigning MVP of
Speaker 1: the National Basketball Association, tweets the franchise referring to Tyrese
Speaker 1: Maxey amazing that you know, Maxie is rolling to this degree.
Speaker 1: And you know the Sixers, you know, I'm you know,
Speaker 1: throw me on the list too. I'm one of those
Speaker 1: know it alls who said we're not gonna be able
Speaker 1: to judge this trade until we see what Philly does
Speaker 1: with the trade assets they got from the Clippers. But
Speaker 1: in the space of a week, the Sixers are already
Speaker 1: forcing us to revise that position because on an addition
Speaker 1: by subtraction basis, this team looks like a cloud has
Speaker 1: been lifted with the uncertainty of Harden's future now gone.
Speaker 1: And Tyrese Maxie was already playing great. But man, he
Speaker 1: just he just he looks better every game. I mean,
Speaker 1: he is really making I mean, the guy is going
Speaker 1: to be an All Star. And so Joe l Embiid
Speaker 1: looks very, very happy. I think that's safe to say.
Speaker 3: Embid told me multiple times right before they traded James
Speaker 3: Harden that they're a better team with him than without him.
Speaker 3: The way they're rolling, I don't know if that is
Speaker 3: accurate to say.
Speaker 1: And that was what he was supposed to say when
Speaker 1: Harden is still on thee.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I agree. I mean, start, he could
Speaker 3: have said, you know, listen, you know, I'm I'm just
Speaker 3: going to play the game and whatever happens happens, and
Speaker 3: I have to, you know, I have to live with
Speaker 3: the results. He could have said something like that. But
Speaker 3: but yeah, definitely, you know, he played the PC row.
Speaker 3: But the way that I didn't think. I didn't think
Speaker 3: they would be this good off the bat right now.
Speaker 3: I definitely did think that Tyree's had another level that
Speaker 3: he can take it, and he's definitely doing that. But
Speaker 3: I still didn't you know, again, we were talking about
Speaker 3: Boston and Milwaukee, and we felt like Philadelphia, you know,
Speaker 3: fell down a peg because there was no movement. There was,
Speaker 3: there was some inactivity and look at look at what's
Speaker 3: going on right now. So you know, you have to
Speaker 3: give props and credit to the Sixers players for standing
Speaker 3: in the fight and just continuing to believe and work
Speaker 3: because right now they're they're looking like a real presence
Speaker 3: in the Eastern Conference.
Speaker 1: And look, we should interject here just an incredibly sad
Speaker 1: story over the weekend that Philly is confronted with now, sad, scary,
Speaker 1: and just awful that Kelly Oubray playing so well for
Speaker 1: the Sixers. In the words officially from the Philadelphia Police Department,
Speaker 1: Oubray was struck in the upper chest area by a
Speaker 1: vehicle on Saturday night, traveling at a high rate of speed.
Speaker 1: According to the Philadelphia Police Department, that car fled the scene.
Speaker 1: Ubray has sustained broken ribs injuries as well to his
Speaker 1: hip and his leg, and obviously he's going to be
Speaker 1: out indefinitely, And I mean that is just a terrible
Speaker 1: situation anyway you look at it. But Ubra, you could
Speaker 1: make the case that he has been the most productive
Speaker 1: out of that whole group. And again that you know,
Speaker 1: all those guys have had had their moments here in
Speaker 1: the early season. So we'll have to see how Philly
Speaker 1: copes with that terrible situation, and our best wishes and
Speaker 1: hopes that Kelly Eubra can re recover from that awful
Speaker 1: situation as quickly as possible, because that that was very
Speaker 1: sad news on Saturday night. I want to try to shift. Now,
Speaker 1: let's look at it another team that you know very well.
Speaker 1: Milwaukee still very up in down. The Bucks got hammered
Speaker 1: by Orlando on Saturday night. Give me your latest read
Speaker 1: on what we're hearing and seeing out of Milwaukee.
Speaker 3: I told you they've been they've been struggling all year.
Speaker 3: The wins that they've they've gotten haven't been well played wins.
Speaker 3: They got it done at the end. Three of their
Speaker 3: five wins have been dame time games where he has
Speaker 3: come through in the fourth and blitzed the defense and
Speaker 3: willed the team the victory. But you know they lost
Speaker 3: the last two. If Dame out with a calf injury.
Speaker 3: He will spoke to him this morning. He will be playing.
Speaker 3: He will return Monday. So it's a tough situation. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think there's problems on both ends of the ball. Offensively,
Speaker 3: you know they're it's taking some time, and we knew
Speaker 3: that was going to happen. I did in the last
Speaker 3: game that Dame and Giannis played together. It was the
Speaker 3: game that I believe Janni's got he got kicked out,
Speaker 3: he got ejected. I want to say that was against
Speaker 3: Detroit that he got ejected after receiving two technicals. I
Speaker 3: saw some good chemistry between Dame and Giannis, Like I
Speaker 3: saw them like really looking for each other, doing the
Speaker 3: extra passes. So you know that there is there is
Speaker 3: reason to be excited about that duo and them figuring
Speaker 3: it out offensively as a whole. There still needs, still
Speaker 3: needs a lot of work, but defensively has really been
Speaker 3: the issue they have yet to I would say, fine,
Speaker 3: I don't want to put it on one player because
Speaker 3: it should be a team effort. But you know they
Speaker 3: they did. Coach Adrian Griffin did kind of go back
Speaker 3: to Brook Lopez being in the drop coverage where he's
Speaker 3: more comfortable at but perimeter. Guys are having like close
Speaker 3: to career nights playing against the Bucks. And I let
Speaker 3: me say this, don Bucks fans, I could say, I
Speaker 3: ain't even gonna say Bucks fans, Alex Caruso over there
Speaker 3: in Chicago will be, uh will be a great addition
Speaker 3: to the Bucks. Will be a great addition. And I know,
Speaker 3: I know a lot of people feel that way a Caruso.
Speaker 3: You know, listen, I have to look more into that.
Speaker 3: I haven't spoken to anybody with the Bucks, so I
Speaker 3: don't want to say I'm just throwing that out there,
Speaker 3: because I've seen a lot of Bucks fans mentioning his name,
Speaker 3: you know, depending you know, the Bulls. We got to
Speaker 3: see what they're gonna do, because I think they're gonna
Speaker 3: ultimately have to make a decision of what they're gonna
Speaker 3: do with Levine DeMar Darroz. Are they going to keep
Speaker 3: this thing intact or they're gonna blow it up? And
Speaker 3: then if they do choose to blow it up. Is
Speaker 3: wild Chicago trade a good talent in Cruso to a
Speaker 3: division rival. You know, maybe it doesn't really matter because
Speaker 3: they're not in the thick of of anything in the standings,
Speaker 3: So maybe they do. Maybe I don't know, but you know,
Speaker 3: that's something to keep an eye on down the road.
Speaker 3: But uh, Milwaukee definitely lacks top tier perimeter defenders right
Speaker 3: now and that's really hurting them bad. But you know,
Speaker 3: like when you talk about Giannis and Dame Stein like
Speaker 3: they they still need time, they still need time. But
Speaker 3: I think Dame is shown already in three of those
Speaker 3: five wins. You know, he he was the signature Dame Time,
Speaker 3: had the signature Dame Time moments in those those those periods.
Speaker 3: But you know, he has yet to find his outside
Speaker 3: shot on a consistent basis, which I think he'll get there.
Speaker 3: He didn't really have an offseason.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm not worried about them offensively, They're gonna they're
Speaker 1: gonna figure.
Speaker 3: Out the defense.
Speaker 1: They're too I mean, these guys are too good, not
Speaker 1: too but the defense, I mean, look, if you know
Speaker 1: Alex Caruso, the line will be long if the Bulls
Speaker 1: ever decide to trade him, because I mean we're talking
Speaker 1: about one of the best on ball defenders in the
Speaker 1: league on a very reasonable contract, and so yes, I'm
Speaker 1: sure if Chicago got to that point they would want
Speaker 1: to trade him. Anywhere but Milwaukee or somewhere in the division.
Speaker 1: But I mean, look, Yanna said it Saturday night lost
Speaker 1: to Orlando. Quote, we have to take it up a notch.
Speaker 1: This is not who we are. This is not the
Speaker 1: Milwaukee Bucks. We gotta guard people. And I mean, I
Speaker 1: I didn't think they would slip defensively this much. I mean, obviously,
Speaker 1: Drew Holliday is a fantastic another one of the league's
Speaker 1: best on ball defenders. But with all the other defenders,
Speaker 1: they have so many defensive minded players there. I didn't
Speaker 1: think the Bucks would suffer this much post Drew. But
Speaker 1: I mean when Yanna says it like that, I mean
Speaker 1: you can't say it much louder. I mean, they gotta
Speaker 1: figure out the defense to get it to the point
Speaker 1: of being decent.
Speaker 3: And that's all to getting decent, that's all. Again, this
Speaker 3: is a team that was tops in defensive is fishing
Speaker 3: over the last few years, and so it's there is
Speaker 3: that the schemes. You know, there are a few new players,
Speaker 3: but you know, like this is it shouldn't be like this.
Speaker 3: It shouldn't be like this, So they have to figure
Speaker 3: it out. They got to figure it out.
Speaker 1: One more team, I think we should mention when we're
Speaker 1: talking about alarm bells ringing, and then we got to
Speaker 1: start talking about some of the good stuff because they're like,
Speaker 1: as we're doing this pod, Minnesota, just one at Golden State.
Speaker 1: I mean, so the Wolves have been just a tremendous
Speaker 1: story in this first ten game slice of the season.
Speaker 1: But you know, again attention grabbing quotes, Jannis does not
Speaker 1: have the quote of the weekend, not anymore. Not after tonight.
Speaker 1: New Orleans, after a four and one start, is now
Speaker 1: four and six. The Pels have a zillion injury concerns,
Speaker 1: as we seem to say every season. I mean I
Speaker 1: did their you know, I was on studio duty for
Speaker 1: their game against Houston. I mean no CJ. McCollum, no
Speaker 1: Herb Jones, no Trey Murphy, no Jose Alvarado. I know
Speaker 1: I'm leaving somebody out. I don't have my full list
Speaker 1: in front of me, but there was there were five
Speaker 1: major injuries for that game, even though they had Zion
Speaker 1: and Brandon Ingram back. But tonight at home, New Orleans
Speaker 1: loses one thirty six four to Dallas, and Zion Williamson
Speaker 1: made a statement that I promise you will be all
Speaker 1: over the place today Monday, after this pod drops quote.
Speaker 1: Last year, we had a team meeting and we brought
Speaker 1: up some things I can do better, especially with buying
Speaker 1: into the program right now. It's tough. I'm taking a
Speaker 1: little bit of a back seat right now. I'm trusting
Speaker 1: the process. I'm trying my best to buy in right now.
Speaker 1: So when one of your star players says something like that, again,
Speaker 1: that is going to be a topic that I suspect
Speaker 1: will be all over the place as this new NBA
Speaker 1: week begins, because yeah, New Orleans is, to put it mildly,
Speaker 1: going through it. But again, I don't want to just
Speaker 1: laser in on teams that are struggling, because there are some,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's some really interesting I don't know if
Speaker 1: we can use the term success stories because again we're
Speaker 1: basically ten games into the season, but I mean the
Speaker 1: Houston Rockets. The Houston Rockets have won six games in
Speaker 1: a row after an zero to three start. I watched
Speaker 1: it close with my own eyes Friday night as they
Speaker 1: came back on New Orleans for a rally and a
Speaker 1: good home win over the Pels. I mean, Dylan Brooks
Speaker 1: was in foul trouble that whole game, and then in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter he gave both Brandon Ingram and Zion
Speaker 1: Williamson fits in that fourth quarter. I mean, Dylan Brooks,
Speaker 1: Fred van Vliet with two just dagger threes late in
Speaker 1: that one, and Ime Udoka. The impact that all of
Speaker 1: the newcomers, the new voices, the coach and the two
Speaker 1: vets are making it clearly seems to be having a
Speaker 1: great effect. And then Alpria and Shengoon has been a
Speaker 1: revelation offensively. You know he always last year was you know,
Speaker 1: he's Jokic light. I mean he in his own right,
Speaker 1: the guy has just become must see offensively, and you know,
Speaker 1: the Rockets have been really, really feisty ends. You know,
Speaker 1: six in a row. Man is that tied with Minnesota
Speaker 1: for the longest active win streak in the Western Conference
Speaker 1: at six wins in a row Philly, I Philly could
Speaker 1: be nine and oh they almost won opening night the
Speaker 1: game in Milwaukee that you were at. But eight in
Speaker 1: a row, Philly has the longest winning streak in the
Speaker 1: league period. And then Dallas, you know, the Mavericks have
Speaker 1: not played the toughest schedule on Earth, but again, these
Speaker 1: last two games, especially ringing up two hundred and eighty points.
Speaker 1: Luka Doncic and kay Re Irving. They are clicking. They
Speaker 1: are hushing the naysayers as a duo with the way
Speaker 1: they're playing off each other. For all the skepticism after
Speaker 1: the way this season started, with the long trip abroad
Speaker 1: and coming back with both Luca and Kyrie carrying injuries,
Speaker 1: I didn't expect an eight and two start, no matter
Speaker 1: who they were playing. And it's the second best start
Speaker 1: now in franchise history. And they're cautiously optimistic that they're
Speaker 1: onto something. I know, I don't know. We got to
Speaker 1: get some Texas games on your schedule, mister haynes See.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna have to come to The Spurs
Speaker 1: are only three and seven, but they got Victor Wemanyama,
Speaker 1: so the Spurs or must see win or lose. And
Speaker 1: then you got Dallas and Houston doing some some newsy stuff.
Speaker 1: We need to get you here.
Speaker 3: I'm in Dallas exactly a month from exactly a month
Speaker 3: from today. They're December twelfth, it would be that will
Speaker 3: be the Lakers at the Mavericks.
Speaker 1: I'm putting it in my calendar.
Speaker 3: And as luck would have it, you'd probably be on
Speaker 3: the road somewhere. I know how you are. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: no Lakers Mariage.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not missing that, especially if you're coming here
Speaker 1: Lake show in town. No chance I missed Tuesday night.
Speaker 1: Get to watch you walk around in one of your
Speaker 1: fancy I'm sure you'll have a new suit for that one.
Speaker 3: I will. I will. You're you're accurate, I will. I
Speaker 3: love Dallas. I love Dallas. I don't get there too often,
Speaker 3: so yeah, I love Dallas.
Speaker 1: What do you love about it?
Speaker 3: What do you love about the prices? That's what I
Speaker 3: love the prices. Yes, I've tried to get my wife
Speaker 3: to move to move to Texas for the logos. Man.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's one city. Big is one city big enough
Speaker 1: for the both of us.
Speaker 3: We can have this time. We'll make do. We'll make do, man,
Speaker 3: I know we do.
Speaker 1: If we were, if we were in the same city,
Speaker 1: would we like would we meet in the same have
Speaker 1: to do pods like face to face? Yet it would
Speaker 1: make it easy.
Speaker 3: For sure, for sure, stein would be I mean, your wife,
Speaker 3: I know you, I know it's what I know you.
Speaker 1: I know I know you, I mean I know you. Guys,
Speaker 1: are you know you're in the Sacramento mansion. You haven't
Speaker 1: been there that long, but maybe you should put that
Speaker 1: up for sale. We won't tell anybody about the fire,
Speaker 1: alarm and move here.
Speaker 3: You're talking to the wrong person. I tried to when
Speaker 3: we were looking for a house. I tried to tell them, listen, baby,
Speaker 3: our dollar will go a long long way in Texas.
Speaker 3: She did not care. She wanted to stay in California.
Speaker 3: So we had to settle for a shock here in
Speaker 3: the Sacramento area. When I was a shock, we had
Speaker 3: to settle for it.
Speaker 1: So there's nothing nothing, It's nothing but gorgeous. Everything is
Speaker 1: fantastic over there except the fire.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a reason why you left California to be
Speaker 3: over there, and and you stayed there.
Speaker 1: Well, hey, it's the same reason I moved here, got married,
Speaker 1: and missus Stein says, we live here here you go,
Speaker 1: there you go.
Speaker 3: Like I told you. Some some people at my gym
Speaker 3: brought brought up my saying last episode, I told you,
Speaker 3: there you go. Stein. You're you're you're proving my point.
Speaker 3: Marriage is like soccer or football. If you would have
Speaker 3: called that, you're mostly taking al's and ties. That's what
Speaker 3: you're mostly taking al's and ties. Man like, if you
Speaker 3: get a win, cherished that win. But it's it's pretty
Speaker 3: much l's and ties.
Speaker 1: So at the gym you heard about that.
Speaker 3: People actually they brought that up. Yeah, yeah, they do that.
Speaker 3: You know, I thought a.
Speaker 1: Little little did they little did they know that on
Speaker 1: this show besides NBA breakdowns, they were going to get marriage.
Speaker 3: We do a little bit of it all, you know, Stein,
Speaker 3: stephen A. I don't know if you've been watching stephen
Speaker 3: A's content over on his podcast, Stein, I don't know
Speaker 3: if you, but you know he ventures out.
Speaker 1: I've heard, I've heard, I've heard, Well, he come on
Speaker 1: our podcast. Why can't he come on our podcast?
Speaker 3: I don't see why he could. Why we should?
Speaker 1: I mean we'll offer I mean, maybe he will offer
Speaker 1: him the same trade we offered Draymond Green. And that
Speaker 1: was the other thing Friday, because I couldn't go to
Speaker 1: the Clipper game, I was gonna I was gonna face
Speaker 1: to face offer Paul George the same trade that we
Speaker 1: offered Draymond Green. Come on our podcast and then we'll
Speaker 1: come on your podcasts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe that trade, maybe that trade offer is not as
Speaker 1: appealing as I think heide.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if that's appealing. I
Speaker 3: think I think he'll be more in line with give
Speaker 3: doing us a favor. I don't know if we could
Speaker 3: do him a favor at this point. But Stein, but
Speaker 3: say say he say he because you know Stein again,
Speaker 3: he's he's touching on he touches. He touches on a
Speaker 3: lot on his podcast. What if he says Stein, he
Speaker 3: will come on our podcast. But we can't talk sports.
Speaker 3: We gotta talk current matters of the world. Are you
Speaker 3: willing to go down that road? Stan? Yeah? All right,
Speaker 3: Steve stephen A He was asked a question. I believe
Speaker 3: it was his last episode, his question question.
Speaker 1: I heard what it was, you want to go down
Speaker 1: that road?
Speaker 3: Start? What I'm saying is if we bring my brother
Speaker 3: stephen A. Smith. Oh. What I'm saying is we gotta
Speaker 3: be prepared to go down that road. So it's not
Speaker 3: a matter if I prepare. Are you prepared? Stan?
Speaker 1: I've done I've done enough TV with him to know
Speaker 1: that I gotta be ready. That's fine. We got to
Speaker 1: reach out. We got to reach out to him again
Speaker 1: and see if we can get him done to make
Speaker 1: a visit to this humble little pause.
Speaker 3: So should we should we end?
Speaker 1: I do have some breaking news. I have answers to questions.
Speaker 1: And it's funny. I think producer Ryan just I think
Speaker 1: he wants to change the name of this pod to
Speaker 1: only Ties and Losses. He loves that. He loves that
Speaker 1: every time you bring this up. But but this is,
Speaker 1: this is not it's not breaking news in the strictest sense.
Speaker 1: It's it's not the kind of breaking news that's going
Speaker 1: to get NBA Twitter excited, but it is. It is legit.
Speaker 1: It is going to be a legit disclosure that I'm
Speaker 1: excited to share with you. Uh important, sorry, sorry, let
Speaker 1: me let me, let me get it here. It's important information.
Speaker 1: I finally, and I want to profusely thank our friend
Speaker 1: Kletus Lewis from the Detroit Pistons, who who did the
Speaker 1: legwork here, because if you remember, Sar Thompson and the
Speaker 1: Detroit Pistons came to Dallas in the exhibition season, and
Speaker 1: I promised you and Ryan that I was going to
Speaker 1: track him down and ask him directly. Mister thoms young,
Speaker 1: mister Thompson, do you and your brother Aman Thompson, do
Speaker 1: you guys, are you guys aware of the nineteen eighties
Speaker 1: brit pop band the Thompson Twins. Are you familiar with
Speaker 1: their work? Do you know anything about him? Have you
Speaker 1: at least heard of them? Because an old man like me,
Speaker 1: who was a child of the eighties, if I hear
Speaker 1: Thompson Twins, I mean you think of that group. Maybe
Speaker 1: you don't because you know you're I don't know what
Speaker 1: ten fifteen years younger than me. I can't somewhere between
Speaker 1: ten and fifteen years younger. But if you were, if
Speaker 1: you were in your fifties and you heard Thompson Twins,
Speaker 1: I promise you that you would you would say, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I remember that. I remember that group. And
Speaker 1: both you and Ryan doubted that young Asar, Tom and
Speaker 1: his brother were aware of the Thompson Twins from the eighties,
Speaker 1: and I have since now confirmed with mister Lewis from
Speaker 1: the Pistons, Yes, the Thompson Twins are aware of the
Speaker 1: Thompson Twins. And Asar told Cletus yes, at one point
Speaker 1: in the not too distant past, he was doing some
Speaker 1: googling on his brother and himself and learned all about
Speaker 1: learned all about the the nineteen eighties Thompson twins, so
Speaker 1: we can put that mystery aside, and yeah, we now
Speaker 1: have the answer that you and Ryan were so desperate for.
Speaker 1: Just a few weeks ago.
Speaker 3: Producer Ryan just said that it is indeed a shocking upset.
Speaker 3: It is, but Producer Ryan, we should have known. We're
Speaker 3: in the Internet days, we should know. I would have
Speaker 3: thought that maybe his parents knew about it, and they
Speaker 3: as their sons were climbing up the basketball rankings as
Speaker 3: prep stars, that you know, they would think about, Oh,
Speaker 3: Thompson twins, Tompson twel oh, we remember. I thought the
Speaker 3: parents might have put him up on game. But of
Speaker 3: course the Internet did it. The Internet gave it away.
Speaker 3: So I should have thought, you know, maybe maybe that's
Speaker 3: my best.
Speaker 1: Because it's just like I It's just like I said,
Speaker 1: if there was a world famous Chris Haynes from before
Speaker 1: you were born, you would probably have come across it somehow,
Speaker 1: some way. If there was a world famous Ryan Music
Speaker 1: before producer Ryan was born, he would have known. He
Speaker 1: would have known about that story. And so I'm that's
Speaker 1: why I was sure. I was certain that this was
Speaker 1: gonna be the response, and frankly, I wanted to shout
Speaker 1: out of sar Thompson anyway, because he's really been playing
Speaker 1: well here in his rookie season in Detroit. Right, the
Speaker 1: Pistons struggling, but sixteen more rebounds for Thompson tonight in
Speaker 1: a loss to Chicago, blocking two shots of game, double
Speaker 1: digit rebounder playing nearly thirty two minutes a game as
Speaker 1: a rookie, really off to a promising start with the Pistons.
Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you this guy. I think I've
Speaker 3: talked about it before, but I still get hate tweets
Speaker 3: and hate dms from people thinking I'm Chris Hayes, Chris Hayes,
Speaker 3: the political commentary, even though our tone and our skin
Speaker 3: is totally different, totally different, you know, heyes, you know
Speaker 3: his his last time is Hayes. No end, I'm Hayes.
Speaker 3: But they still come at me. I'm like, hold on,
Speaker 3: and I would understand that if my Twitter picture didn't
Speaker 3: actually have a photo. There's my big black face in
Speaker 3: that photo right there, you clear as day. And if
Speaker 3: that didn't give it away, with my face and complexion
Speaker 3: did give it away, there's a bio right there that
Speaker 3: says NBA insider, t n T Sideline reporter. So I
Speaker 3: don't know people you know, people do want to do
Speaker 3: the bare minimum. They look for whoever name looks similar
Speaker 3: to the person that they hate at that time, and
Speaker 3: they'll send you like I get Steinn. I'm telling you, man,
Speaker 3: I get some of the most hateful. Like I'm I'm like,
Speaker 3: i almost feel bad for Chris Hayes because I'm catching
Speaker 3: the strays that he will ordinarily get. Now you have
Speaker 3: to wonder, like, god, man, like what is he really
Speaker 3: getting in this DMS or in his mention? So, Chris Hayes,
Speaker 3: you're hey, budd, you know I feel for you because
Speaker 3: I see what you're getting on a limited basis.
Speaker 1: But remember last year, didn't he tweet some NBA stuff
Speaker 1: at you and you guys were you guys said like
Speaker 1: somehow you had to do. You guys were gonna do
Speaker 1: a pod together so it could be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he said that whatever he watches a game that
Speaker 3: I'm reporting on, they'll say, okay, now we're going to
Speaker 3: Chris Haynes on the court, and he saying just like
Speaker 3: an anxiety attack because he's like, hold on, they going
Speaker 3: to me. I'm at home, Like what so I get
Speaker 3: I definitely get that. I've heard that a few times,
Speaker 3: but uh, yeah, so I've never I've never met him.
Speaker 3: Seems to be a cool guy. You know, politics is
Speaker 3: that's a different beast over there. Different beasts.
Speaker 1: So Tuesday night, who you work with? Who will be
Speaker 1: who will be throwing it to Chris Haynes on Tuesday night?
Speaker 3: Tuesday Night, it will be let me see that is
Speaker 3: Clippers Denver. It will be Oh, Kevin Harlem, Reggie Miller, myself, nice.
Speaker 1: All right man, Clippers Denver, the Denver Nuggets defending champion
Speaker 1: Denver Nuggets. Can the Clippers really get their first win
Speaker 1: of the James Harden era against Nicola Jokicchenko?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 1: Is that feasible? Is that possible? The good new news
Speaker 1: is the next time Chris Haynes and I get together
Speaker 1: for a podcast, we will have that answer and presumably
Speaker 1: lots more discussion about the clips, about those defending champs,
Speaker 1: about all manner of NBA storylines and developments. Please remember,
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