WEBVTT - #thisleague UNCUT: An NBA Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>The Clippers are still searching for their first win with

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<v Speaker 1>James Harden, while Philadelphia post the Beard is absolutely thriving,

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<v Speaker 1>especially Tyrese Maxi. The Bucks and the Pelicans both mired

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<v Speaker 1>in their own struggles. And then we got surprises galore

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of the Western Conference, Minnesota, Dallas, Houston

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<v Speaker 1>all rolling at this early juncture of the season. We

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<v Speaker 1>get into all of that now here on this League Uncut.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to this League Uncut. Can you rule of twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four hour NBA news?

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<v Speaker 1>This's you, Chris Hans.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time, work's time, it's some time. This League Uncut

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<v Speaker 2>is underway and on fire. This should be a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome in everyone to the latest edition of This League Uncut.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Stein here with Chris Haynes. We are taping on

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<v Speaker 1>a Sunday night, so it's Monday morning that this is

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<v Speaker 1>actually this podcast has made its way to your phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy Sunday night, Crazy good Sunday night in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>I know Sundays are supposed to belong exclusively to the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think hoop junkies like us and everybody listening,

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<v Speaker 1>it was hard to know where to look on this

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday night there were so many games and so many

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<v Speaker 1>interesting outcomes. The Warriors are losing at home to Minnesota

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<v Speaker 1>as we speak, that's late in the fourth quarter. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that going to be another huge win for the Timberwolves.

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<v Speaker 1>The MAVs went to New Orleans and rung up one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thirty six points after scoring one hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 1>four against the Clippers. The high octane Pacers, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how many times we've said that over the years,

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<v Speaker 1>they go to Philly and lose Tyrese Maxi fifty points

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<v Speaker 1>on the same Just mere hours after the Clippers. In

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<v Speaker 1>James Harden's home debut, the Clippers lose at home to

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<v Speaker 1>the one in eight Memphis Grizzlies. The Houston Rockets people

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<v Speaker 1>beat the Denver Nuggets, dealing the defending champions just their

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<v Speaker 1>second loss this season. Miami comes back from a zillion

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<v Speaker 1>points down to beat Victor Wen Minyama and Co. In

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<v Speaker 1>San Antonio. The thunder go to Phoenix and get a win.

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<v Speaker 1>The Suns still can't get all their guys on the

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<v Speaker 1>floor injury issues there. Devin Booker didn't play tonight and

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<v Speaker 1>Bradley Beal appeared to be ailing as well. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a zillion different places that we can dig

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<v Speaker 1>in here again, I mean, this is a robust Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>night schedule. Chris Haynes, I suspect knows where I want

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<v Speaker 1>to begin, and it's where we began multiple recent episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>The Clippers. Okay, they lost their first three games with Harden.

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<v Speaker 1>Those were all on the road. They went to Madison Square,

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<v Speaker 1>Garden lost to the Knicks. They went to Brooklyn for

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<v Speaker 1>a hardened reunion game against the Nets. Lost, That came

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<v Speaker 1>to Dallas and the Mavericks hit them with an absolute offensive. Haymaker, Okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>those are all on the road. This was again James

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<v Speaker 1>Harden's home debut, and they lose to Memphis one in eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Memphis goes in there and gets a one oh five

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<v Speaker 1>one oh one win. Is it fair? Chris Haynes too?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it already a crisis in Clipperland? An Owen four

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<v Speaker 1>start to the James Harden era and he he he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't look like he is in peak shape. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's fair to say. I mean, Tyleru, I mean, what

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<v Speaker 1>would you say to ty Lou if he asked your advice?

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<v Speaker 1>Right now?

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<v Speaker 3>All right? So the first question I'll answer, is this

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<v Speaker 3>a crisis. It's hard for me to label anything a

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<v Speaker 3>crisis this early in the season, but it is alarming.

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<v Speaker 3>And what would I say to ty Lou. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of cooks in the kitchen, particularly when you're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about that starting lineup, and I think it's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got a change, right, and they can't keep doing this.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you can. I do not think you can.

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<v Speaker 3>And yes, you know I say that, and I say,

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<v Speaker 3>it's still early. You know, sometimes you want to give

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<v Speaker 3>teams time to jail, and give rotations and mixtures time

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<v Speaker 3>to jail. But you know, look what Darvin Ham did early.

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<v Speaker 3>He he did this. Darvin Ham, remember he sat rest

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<v Speaker 3>towards the early part of the season last season with

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<v Speaker 3>wrestled with the Lakers, put him on the bench. Didn't

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<v Speaker 3>call it a the motion, called it a realignment. And

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<v Speaker 3>now he did it again the same time, same time

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<v Speaker 3>a year later, did with Austin Reeves last game and

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<v Speaker 3>Austin came out and played phenomenally, probably his best basketball

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<v Speaker 3>all season off the bench. So there, you know, it

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<v Speaker 3>depends on the type of team you have. If there

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<v Speaker 3>if there's championship expectations, then the urgency, more urgency there.

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<v Speaker 3>And as it pertains to the Clippers, you know they

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<v Speaker 3>have championship aspirations, and so I think ty Lu will

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<v Speaker 3>probably have to make a realignment somewhere. I just don't

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<v Speaker 3>see them gelling. And then when it comes to James Harden,

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<v Speaker 3>yes he's not in peak shape. He's he's a really

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<v Speaker 3>good shape, but there's one thing. It's one thing to

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<v Speaker 3>be in really good shape and then to be in

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<v Speaker 3>NBA game shape mid season. Fo him, he's not there,

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<v Speaker 3>He's working his way in. I can pretty much guess

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<v Speaker 3>that if there's going to be a shakeup in that

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<v Speaker 3>start lineup, it won't be with Harden. I could pretty

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<v Speaker 3>certainly guess that. So I just don't know the timeframe

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<v Speaker 3>that Tyler has, but I'll be able to ask him

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<v Speaker 3>that question pretty soon. I'm traveling tomorrow to Denver. I

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<v Speaker 3>have the Nuggets Clippers game Tuesday night, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait for the next one. Today is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be good, but I really can't wait for the next

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<v Speaker 1>one because I love when you get to go on

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<v Speaker 1>the road, you get to see the Clippers, you get

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<v Speaker 1>to see the Nuggets, and you get to come back

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<v Speaker 1>here and tell us everything you heard I mean, but look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be honest with you. I was alarmed for the

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<v Speaker 1>Clippers after Friday Night's game in Dallas, and as I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned the last time we got together, I was so

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I really needed two of me on Friday

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<v Speaker 1>night because I had TV duties on the Pelicans Rockets broadcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and that meant that I couldn't go see the Clippers

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<v Speaker 1>when they were in my city, and I really wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to go see them, not expecting a game like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And the MAVs hit them with a thirty five to

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<v Speaker 1>four knockout punch in the first half and rang up

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and forty four points. And after the game,

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<v Speaker 1>tylu said, quote, We're just not big enough, And that

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<v Speaker 1>quote just jumped off the page to me, because the

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<v Speaker 1>Mavericks are high optane and when Luka Doncic and Kyrie

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<v Speaker 1>Irving are clicking like they have, especially these last two games,

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<v Speaker 1>the MAVs can put up a lot of points. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is exactly the blueprint. This is the way for

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<v Speaker 1>the Mavericks to succeed is to just be a crazy

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<v Speaker 1>scoring team. But the MAVs are super small. The MAVs

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday night without Derek Lively got pounded for seventy

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<v Speaker 1>two points in the paint, and the MAVs have had

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<v Speaker 1>trouble points in the paint all season. They've been at

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of the lead. And so for the Clippers

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<v Speaker 1>to come away from that, for tylu to come away

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<v Speaker 1>from that game lamenting how small his team is. And

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<v Speaker 1>obviously they've lost Mason Plumley, and definitely they really only

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<v Speaker 1>have Zoobotch now as a you know, certifiable center. They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to go out and get somebody else, and

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<v Speaker 1>they just, man, they don't have a ton of assets

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<v Speaker 1>to go do that. So I mean, I I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's too soon for crisis talking. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I and you'll have a much better handle after you

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<v Speaker 1>see these guys in person. I can't wait. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait to hear what you see and what you hear,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, just I knew it was gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, but I I mean, I just I never

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<v Speaker 1>thought they were gonna struggle like this. I mean this Memphis.

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<v Speaker 1>Memphis has been an absolute mess with no John Morant

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<v Speaker 1>and no Brandon Clark and no Steven Adams and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one and eight start and Taylor Jenkins went off on

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<v Speaker 1>the rest the other night, just got fine. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I like you would have thought Memphis at home is

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect way for the Clippers to start building something here.

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<v Speaker 1>And and now they got Denver.

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<v Speaker 3>And and I think they're big. They're big. Issue is

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<v Speaker 3>definitely their biggs, But I think it extends beyond just

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<v Speaker 3>a center. You know, they're they're small all across the board.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, even with Paul George and Kawhi Leonard, you're

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<v Speaker 3>asking one of those two to play the power forward position.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, just face it, these are all perimeter players,

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<v Speaker 3>all of them. And I know the NBA, the way

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<v Speaker 3>the NBA is going right now, positionless basketball. You could

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<v Speaker 3>just put five guys out there on the court, but

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<v Speaker 3>you're still at a disadvantage even if you have one

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<v Speaker 3>big in there. You're you're asking people to do things

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<v Speaker 3>that they're not accustomed to doing on a routine basis,

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<v Speaker 3>And so you know they have problems in that regard.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, really right now is just a cohesion situation?

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<v Speaker 3>You don't you know, is there too much of a

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<v Speaker 3>redundancy in talent? You know, these are all things that

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to I guess five I mean, there's probably

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<v Speaker 3>enough to see that we found out that there's too

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<v Speaker 3>much of redundancy, So I think there definitely has to

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<v Speaker 3>be a change. Now what that change is, I'm not sure,

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<v Speaker 3>but I just don't know if they can get by

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<v Speaker 3>with that starting five.

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<v Speaker 1>And what makes it tough is they started the season well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it looked like things were clicking, and man,

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<v Speaker 1>they have just taken a massive step back and again,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, to rub salt in the wound, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean tonight, I mean, Tyrese Maxi didn't just score fifty

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<v Speaker 1>points for Philly in this track meet win over Indiana.

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<v Speaker 1>After the game, Joe l Embiid, the reigning MVP of

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<v Speaker 1>the National Basketball Association, tweets the franchise referring to Tyrese

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<v Speaker 1>Maxey amazing that you know, Maxie is rolling to this degree.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know the Sixers, you know, I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 1>throw me on the list too. I'm one of those

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<v Speaker 1>know it alls who said we're not gonna be able

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<v Speaker 1>to judge this trade until we see what Philly does

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<v Speaker 1>with the trade assets they got from the Clippers. But

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<v Speaker 1>in the space of a week, the Sixers are already

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<v Speaker 1>forcing us to revise that position because on an addition

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<v Speaker 1>by subtraction basis, this team looks like a cloud has

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<v Speaker 1>been lifted with the uncertainty of Harden's future now gone.

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<v Speaker 1>And Tyrese Maxie was already playing great. But man, he

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<v Speaker 1>just he just he looks better every game. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he is really making I mean, the guy is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be an All Star. And so Joe l Embiid

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<v Speaker 1>looks very, very happy. I think that's safe to say.

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<v Speaker 3>Embid told me multiple times right before they traded James

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<v Speaker 3>Harden that they're a better team with him than without him.

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<v Speaker 3>The way they're rolling, I don't know if that is

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<v Speaker 3>accurate to say.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was what he was supposed to say when

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<v Speaker 1>Harden is still on thee.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree, I agree. I mean, start, he could

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<v Speaker 3>have said, you know, listen, you know, I'm I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>going to play the game and whatever happens happens, and

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<v Speaker 3>I have to, you know, I have to live with

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<v Speaker 3>the results. He could have said something like that. But

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, definitely, you know, he played the PC row.

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<v Speaker 3>But the way that I didn't think. I didn't think

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<v Speaker 3>they would be this good off the bat right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely did think that Tyree's had another level that

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<v Speaker 3>he can take it, and he's definitely doing that. But

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<v Speaker 3>I still didn't you know, again, we were talking about

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<v Speaker 3>Boston and Milwaukee, and we felt like Philadelphia, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>fell down a peg because there was no movement. There was,

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<v Speaker 3>there was some inactivity and look at look at what's

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<v Speaker 3>going on right now. So you know, you have to

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<v Speaker 3>give props and credit to the Sixers players for standing

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<v Speaker 3>in the fight and just continuing to believe and work

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<v Speaker 3>because right now they're they're looking like a real presence

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<v Speaker 3>in the Eastern Conference.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, we should interject here just an incredibly sad

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<v Speaker 1>story over the weekend that Philly is confronted with now, sad, scary,

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<v Speaker 1>and just awful that Kelly Oubray playing so well for

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<v Speaker 1>the Sixers. In the words officially from the Philadelphia Police Department,

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<v Speaker 1>Oubray was struck in the upper chest area by a

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle on Saturday night, traveling at a high rate of speed.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the Philadelphia Police Department, that car fled the scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Ubray has sustained broken ribs injuries as well to his

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<v Speaker 1>hip and his leg, and obviously he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>out indefinitely, And I mean that is just a terrible

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<v Speaker 1>situation anyway you look at it. But Ubra, you could

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<v Speaker 1>make the case that he has been the most productive

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<v Speaker 1>out of that whole group. And again that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all those guys have had had their moments here in

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<v Speaker 1>the early season. So we'll have to see how Philly

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<v Speaker 1>copes with that terrible situation, and our best wishes and

0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:44.920
<v Speaker 1>hopes that Kelly Eubra can re recover from that awful

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<v Speaker 1>situation as quickly as possible, because that that was very

0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:54.560
<v Speaker 1>sad news on Saturday night. I want to try to shift. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's look at it another team that you know very well.

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<v Speaker 1>Milwaukee still very up in down. The Bucks got hammered

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<v Speaker 1>by Orlando on Saturday night. Give me your latest read

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<v Speaker 1>on what we're hearing and seeing out of Milwaukee.

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<v Speaker 3>I told you they've been they've been struggling all year.

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<v Speaker 3>The wins that they've they've gotten haven't been well played wins.

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<v Speaker 3>They got it done at the end. Three of their

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<v Speaker 3>five wins have been dame time games where he has

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<v Speaker 3>come through in the fourth and blitzed the defense and

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<v Speaker 3>willed the team the victory. But you know they lost

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<v Speaker 3>the last two. If Dame out with a calf injury.

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<v Speaker 3>He will spoke to him this morning. He will be playing.

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<v Speaker 3>He will return Monday. So it's a tough situation. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's problems on both ends of the ball. Offensively,

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<v Speaker 3>you know they're it's taking some time, and we knew

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<v Speaker 3>that was going to happen. I did in the last

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<v Speaker 3>game that Dame and Giannis played together. It was the

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<v Speaker 3>game that I believe Janni's got he got kicked out,

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<v Speaker 3>he got ejected. I want to say that was against

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<v Speaker 3>Detroit that he got ejected after receiving two technicals. I

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<v Speaker 3>saw some good chemistry between Dame and Giannis, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>saw them like really looking for each other, doing the

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<v Speaker 3>extra passes. So you know that there is there is

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<v Speaker 3>reason to be excited about that duo and them figuring

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<v Speaker 3>it out offensively as a whole. There still needs, still

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<v Speaker 3>needs a lot of work, but defensively has really been

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<v Speaker 3>the issue they have yet to I would say, fine,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to put it on one player because

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<v Speaker 3>it should be a team effort. But you know they

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<v Speaker 3>they did. Coach Adrian Griffin did kind of go back

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<v Speaker 3>to Brook Lopez being in the drop coverage where he's

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<v Speaker 3>more comfortable at but perimeter. Guys are having like close

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<v Speaker 3>to career nights playing against the Bucks. And I let

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<v Speaker 3>me say this, don Bucks fans, I could say, I

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<v Speaker 3>ain't even gonna say Bucks fans, Alex Caruso over there

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<v Speaker 3>in Chicago will be, uh will be a great addition

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<v Speaker 3>to the Bucks. Will be a great addition. And I know,

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<v Speaker 3>I know a lot of people feel that way a Caruso.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, listen, I have to look more into that.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't spoken to anybody with the Bucks, so I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to say I'm just throwing that out there,

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<v Speaker 3>because I've seen a lot of Bucks fans mentioning his name,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, depending you know, the Bulls. We got to

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<v Speaker 3>see what they're gonna do, because I think they're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>ultimately have to make a decision of what they're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>do with Levine DeMar Darroz. Are they going to keep

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<v Speaker 3>this thing intact or they're gonna blow it up? And

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<v Speaker 3>then if they do choose to blow it up. Is

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<v Speaker 3>wild Chicago trade a good talent in Cruso to a

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<v Speaker 3>division rival. You know, maybe it doesn't really matter because

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<v Speaker 3>they're not in the thick of of anything in the standings,

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<v Speaker 3>So maybe they do. Maybe I don't know, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that's something to keep an eye on down the road.

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<v Speaker 3>But uh, Milwaukee definitely lacks top tier perimeter defenders right

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<v Speaker 3>now and that's really hurting them bad. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like when you talk about Giannis and Dame Stein like

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<v Speaker 3>they they still need time, they still need time. But

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<v Speaker 3>I think Dame is shown already in three of those

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<v Speaker 3>five wins. You know, he he was the signature Dame Time,

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<v Speaker 3>had the signature Dame Time moments in those those those periods.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, he has yet to find his outside

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<v Speaker 3>shot on a consistent basis, which I think he'll get there.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't really have an offseason.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I'm not worried about them offensively, They're gonna they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna figure.

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<v Speaker 3>Out the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>They're too I mean, these guys are too good, not

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<v Speaker 1>too but the defense, I mean, look, if you know

0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Alex Caruso, the line will be long if the Bulls

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<v Speaker 1>ever decide to trade him, because I mean we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about one of the best on ball defenders in the

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<v Speaker 1>league on a very reasonable contract, and so yes, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure if Chicago got to that point they would want

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<v Speaker 1>to trade him. Anywhere but Milwaukee or somewhere in the division.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, look, Yanna said it Saturday night lost

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<v Speaker 1>to Orlando. Quote, we have to take it up a notch.

0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:48.399
<v Speaker 1>This is not who we are. This is not the

0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Milwaukee Bucks. We gotta guard people. And I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think they would slip defensively this much. I mean, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>Drew Holliday is a fantastic another one of the league's

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<v Speaker 1>best on ball defenders. But with all the other defenders,

0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:09.240
<v Speaker 1>they have so many defensive minded players there. I didn't

0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:15.840
<v Speaker 1>think the Bucks would suffer this much post Drew. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when Yanna says it like that, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you can't say it much louder. I mean, they gotta

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<v Speaker 1>figure out the defense to get it to the point

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<v Speaker 1>of being decent.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's all to getting decent, that's all. Again, this

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<v Speaker 3>is a team that was tops in defensive is fishing

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<v Speaker 3>over the last few years, and so it's there is

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<v Speaker 3>that the schemes. You know, there are a few new players,

0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:49.000
<v Speaker 3>but you know, like this is it shouldn't be like this.

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<v Speaker 3>It shouldn't be like this, So they have to figure

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<v Speaker 3>it out. They got to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>One more team, I think we should mention when we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about alarm bells ringing, and then we got to

0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:01.600
<v Speaker 1>start talking about some of the good stuff because they're like,

0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:07.320
<v Speaker 1>as we're doing this pod, Minnesota, just one at Golden State.

0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:11.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, so the Wolves have been just a tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>story in this first ten game slice of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, again attention grabbing quotes, Jannis does not

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<v Speaker 1>have the quote of the weekend, not anymore. Not after tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans, after a four and one start, is now

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<v Speaker 1>four and six. The Pels have a zillion injury concerns,

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<v Speaker 1>as we seem to say every season. I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>did their you know, I was on studio duty for

0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:42.399
<v Speaker 1>their game against Houston. I mean no CJ. McCollum, no

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<v Speaker 1>Herb Jones, no Trey Murphy, no Jose Alvarado. I know

0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm leaving somebody out. I don't have my full list

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<v Speaker 1>in front of me, but there was there were five

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<v Speaker 1>major injuries for that game, even though they had Zion

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<v Speaker 1>and Brandon Ingram back. But tonight at home, New Orleans

0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:07.840
<v Speaker 1>loses one thirty six four to Dallas, and Zion Williamson

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<v Speaker 1>made a statement that I promise you will be all

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<v Speaker 1>over the place today Monday, after this pod drops quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year, we had a team meeting and we brought

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<v Speaker 1>up some things I can do better, especially with buying

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<v Speaker 1>into the program right now. It's tough. I'm taking a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a back seat right now. I'm trusting

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<v Speaker 1>the process. I'm trying my best to buy in right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So when one of your star players says something like that, again,

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<v Speaker 1>that is going to be a topic that I suspect

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<v Speaker 1>will be all over the place as this new NBA

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<v Speaker 1>week begins, because yeah, New Orleans is, to put it mildly,

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<v Speaker 1>going through it. But again, I don't want to just

0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:02.600
<v Speaker 1>laser in on teams that are struggling, because there are some,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's some really interesting I don't know if

0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:09.920
<v Speaker 1>we can use the term success stories because again we're

0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:13.439
<v Speaker 1>basically ten games into the season, but I mean the

0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:18.159
<v Speaker 1>Houston Rockets. The Houston Rockets have won six games in

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<v Speaker 1>a row after an zero to three start. I watched

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<v Speaker 1>it close with my own eyes Friday night as they

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<v Speaker 1>came back on New Orleans for a rally and a

0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:33.800
<v Speaker 1>good home win over the Pels. I mean, Dylan Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>was in foul trouble that whole game, and then in

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth quarter he gave both Brandon Ingram and Zion

0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Williamson fits in that fourth quarter. I mean, Dylan Brooks,

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<v Speaker 1>Fred van Vliet with two just dagger threes late in

0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:52.840
<v Speaker 1>that one, and Ime Udoka. The impact that all of

0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the newcomers, the new voices, the coach and the two

0:23:56.040 --> 0:24:00.800
<v Speaker 1>vets are making it clearly seems to be having a

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<v Speaker 1>great effect. And then Alpria and Shengoon has been a

0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:09.240
<v Speaker 1>revelation offensively. You know he always last year was you know,

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:13.360
<v Speaker 1>he's Jokic light. I mean he in his own right,

0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:18.840
<v Speaker 1>the guy has just become must see offensively, and you know,

0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:23.479
<v Speaker 1>the Rockets have been really, really feisty ends. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>six in a row. Man is that tied with Minnesota

0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:32.200
<v Speaker 1>for the longest active win streak in the Western Conference

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:34.840
<v Speaker 1>at six wins in a row Philly, I Philly could

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<v Speaker 1>be nine and oh they almost won opening night the

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:39.639
<v Speaker 1>game in Milwaukee that you were at. But eight in

0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:42.399
<v Speaker 1>a row, Philly has the longest winning streak in the

0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:48.439
<v Speaker 1>league period. And then Dallas, you know, the Mavericks have

0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:53.080
<v Speaker 1>not played the toughest schedule on Earth, but again, these

0:24:53.160 --> 0:24:58.320
<v Speaker 1>last two games, especially ringing up two hundred and eighty points.

0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Luka Doncic and kay Re Irving. They are clicking. They

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:05.119
<v Speaker 1>are hushing the naysayers as a duo with the way

0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 1>they're playing off each other. For all the skepticism after

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:12.520
<v Speaker 1>the way this season started, with the long trip abroad

0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:17.680
<v Speaker 1>and coming back with both Luca and Kyrie carrying injuries,

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I didn't expect an eight and two start, no matter

0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>who they were playing. And it's the second best start

0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:27.640
<v Speaker 1>now in franchise history. And they're cautiously optimistic that they're

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:32.680
<v Speaker 1>onto something. I know, I don't know. We got to

0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 1>get some Texas games on your schedule, mister haynes See.

0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're gonna have to come to The Spurs

0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 1>are only three and seven, but they got Victor Wemanyama,

0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:44.119
<v Speaker 1>so the Spurs or must see win or lose. And

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 1>then you got Dallas and Houston doing some some newsy stuff.

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:49.680
<v Speaker 1>We need to get you here.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in Dallas exactly a month from exactly a month

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<v Speaker 3>from today. They're December twelfth, it would be that will

0:25:57.200 --> 0:25:59.119
<v Speaker 3>be the Lakers at the Mavericks.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm putting it in my calendar.

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<v Speaker 3>And as luck would have it, you'd probably be on

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:10.160
<v Speaker 3>the road somewhere. I know how you are. No, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>no Lakers Mariage.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not missing that, especially if you're coming here

0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Lake show in town. No chance I missed Tuesday night.

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Get to watch you walk around in one of your

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:28.160
<v Speaker 1>fancy I'm sure you'll have a new suit for that one.

0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:31.840
<v Speaker 3>I will. I will. You're you're accurate, I will. I

0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:35.480
<v Speaker 3>love Dallas. I love Dallas. I don't get there too often,

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 3>so yeah, I love Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you love about it?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you love about the prices? That's what I

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:44.439
<v Speaker 3>love the prices. Yes, I've tried to get my wife

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 3>to move to move to Texas for the logos. Man.

0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's one city. Big is one city big enough

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<v Speaker 1>for the both of us.

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<v Speaker 3>We can have this time. We'll make do. We'll make do, man,

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<v Speaker 3>I know we do.

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<v Speaker 1>If we were, if we were in the same city,

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<v Speaker 1>would we like would we meet in the same have

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 1>to do pods like face to face? Yet it would

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 1>make it easy.

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<v Speaker 3>For sure, for sure, stein would be I mean, your wife,

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:10.199
<v Speaker 3>I know you, I know it's what I know you.

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:12.120
<v Speaker 1>I know I know you, I mean I know you. Guys,

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:14.640
<v Speaker 1>are you know you're in the Sacramento mansion. You haven't

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:16.480
<v Speaker 1>been there that long, but maybe you should put that

0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 1>up for sale. We won't tell anybody about the fire,

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:21.160
<v Speaker 1>alarm and move here.

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<v Speaker 3>You're talking to the wrong person. I tried to when

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:27.160
<v Speaker 3>we were looking for a house. I tried to tell them, listen, baby,

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 3>our dollar will go a long long way in Texas.

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 3>She did not care. She wanted to stay in California.

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 3>So we had to settle for a shock here in

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:42.639
<v Speaker 3>the Sacramento area. When I was a shock, we had

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:43.439
<v Speaker 3>to settle for it.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's nothing nothing, It's nothing but gorgeous. Everything is

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:51.440
<v Speaker 1>fantastic over there except the fire.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's a reason why you left California to be

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 3>over there, and and you stayed there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hey, it's the same reason I moved here, got married,

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:08.160
<v Speaker 1>and missus Stein says, we live here here you go,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go.

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 3>Like I told you. Some some people at my gym

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:17.399
<v Speaker 3>brought brought up my saying last episode, I told you,

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<v Speaker 3>there you go. Stein. You're you're you're proving my point.

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<v Speaker 3>Marriage is like soccer or football. If you would have

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<v Speaker 3>called that, you're mostly taking al's and ties. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>you're mostly taking al's and ties. Man like, if you

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<v Speaker 3>get a win, cherished that win. But it's it's pretty

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:35.679
<v Speaker 3>much l's and ties.

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<v Speaker 1>So at the gym you heard about that.

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<v Speaker 3>People actually they brought that up. Yeah, yeah, they do that.

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 3>You know, I thought a.

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Little little did they little did they know that on

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 1>this show besides NBA breakdowns, they were going to get marriage.

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 3>We do a little bit of it all, you know, Stein,

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 3>stephen A. I don't know if you've been watching stephen

0:28:57.160 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 3>A's content over on his podcast, Stein, I don't know

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:03.640
<v Speaker 3>if you, but you know he ventures out.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard, I've heard, I've heard, Well, he come on

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 1>our podcast. Why can't he come on our podcast?

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't see why he could. Why we should?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we'll offer I mean, maybe he will offer

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 1>him the same trade we offered Draymond Green. And that

0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 1>was the other thing Friday, because I couldn't go to

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>the Clipper game, I was gonna I was gonna face

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 1>to face offer Paul George the same trade that we

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 1>offered Draymond Green. Come on our podcast and then we'll

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 1>come on your podcasts.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know.

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that trade, maybe that trade offer is not as

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>appealing as I think heide.

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't know if that's appealing. I

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 3>think I think he'll be more in line with give

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 3>doing us a favor. I don't know if we could

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:56.480
<v Speaker 3>do him a favor at this point. But Stein, but

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<v Speaker 3>say say he say he because you know Stein again,

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 3>he's he's touching on he touches. He touches on a

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 3>lot on his podcast. What if he says Stein, he

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 3>will come on our podcast. But we can't talk sports.

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 3>We gotta talk current matters of the world. Are you

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<v Speaker 3>willing to go down that road? Stan? Yeah? All right,

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 3>Steve stephen A He was asked a question. I believe

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:26.959
<v Speaker 3>it was his last episode, his question question.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard what it was, you want to go down

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 1>that road?

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 3>Start? What I'm saying is if we bring my brother

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 3>stephen A. Smith. Oh. What I'm saying is we gotta

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<v Speaker 3>be prepared to go down that road. So it's not

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 3>a matter if I prepare. Are you prepared? Stan?

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I've done I've done enough TV with him to know

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 1>that I gotta be ready. That's fine. We got to

0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>reach out. We got to reach out to him again

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>and see if we can get him done to make

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<v Speaker 1>a visit to this humble little pause.

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<v Speaker 3>So should we should we end?

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<v Speaker 1>I do have some breaking news. I have answers to questions.

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>And it's funny. I think producer Ryan just I think

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:16.520
<v Speaker 1>he wants to change the name of this pod to

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>only Ties and Losses. He loves that. He loves that

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 1>every time you bring this up. But but this is,

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 1>this is not it's not breaking news in the strictest sense.

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 1>It's it's not the kind of breaking news that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to get NBA Twitter excited, but it is. It is legit.

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 1>It is going to be a legit disclosure that I'm

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 1>excited to share with you. Uh important, sorry, sorry, let

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 1>me let me, let me get it here. It's important information.

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<v Speaker 1>I finally, and I want to profusely thank our friend

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<v Speaker 1>Kletus Lewis from the Detroit Pistons, who who did the

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<v Speaker 1>legwork here, because if you remember, Sar Thompson and the

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit Pistons came to Dallas in the exhibition season, and

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<v Speaker 1>I promised you and Ryan that I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>track him down and ask him directly. Mister thoms young,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Thompson, do you and your brother Aman Thompson, do

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, are you guys aware of the nineteen eighties

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>brit pop band the Thompson Twins. Are you familiar with

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 1>their work? Do you know anything about him? Have you

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 1>at least heard of them? Because an old man like me,

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<v Speaker 1>who was a child of the eighties, if I hear

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<v Speaker 1>Thompson Twins, I mean you think of that group. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you don't because you know you're I don't know what

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 1>ten fifteen years younger than me. I can't somewhere between

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>ten and fifteen years younger. But if you were, if

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<v Speaker 1>you were in your fifties and you heard Thompson Twins,

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<v Speaker 1>I promise you that you would you would say, yeah,

0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, I remember that. I remember that group. And

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<v Speaker 1>both you and Ryan doubted that young Asar, Tom and

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 1>his brother were aware of the Thompson Twins from the eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have since now confirmed with mister Lewis from

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<v Speaker 1>the Pistons, Yes, the Thompson Twins are aware of the

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Thompson Twins. And Asar told Cletus yes, at one point

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<v Speaker 1>in the not too distant past, he was doing some

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 1>googling on his brother and himself and learned all about

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 1>learned all about the the nineteen eighties Thompson twins, so

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<v Speaker 1>we can put that mystery aside, and yeah, we now

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 1>have the answer that you and Ryan were so desperate for.

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Just a few weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Producer Ryan just said that it is indeed a shocking upset.

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<v Speaker 3>It is, but Producer Ryan, we should have known. We're

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 3>in the Internet days, we should know. I would have

0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 3>thought that maybe his parents knew about it, and they

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 3>as their sons were climbing up the basketball rankings as

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 3>prep stars, that you know, they would think about, Oh,

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 3>Thompson twins, Tompson twel oh, we remember. I thought the

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 3>parents might have put him up on game. But of

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 3>course the Internet did it. The Internet gave it away.

0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:21.879
<v Speaker 3>So I should have thought, you know, maybe maybe that's

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 3>my best.

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Because it's just like I It's just like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>if there was a world famous Chris Haynes from before

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:35.360
<v Speaker 1>you were born, you would probably have come across it somehow,

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>some way. If there was a world famous Ryan Music

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:45.319
<v Speaker 1>before producer Ryan was born, he would have known. He

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 1>would have known about that story. And so I'm that's

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>why I was sure. I was certain that this was

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:55.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna be the response, and frankly, I wanted to shout

0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:57.760
<v Speaker 1>out of sar Thompson anyway, because he's really been playing

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:00.360
<v Speaker 1>well here in his rookie season in Detroit. Right, the

0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:04.319
<v Speaker 1>Pistons struggling, but sixteen more rebounds for Thompson tonight in

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:08.840
<v Speaker 1>a loss to Chicago, blocking two shots of game, double

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 1>digit rebounder playing nearly thirty two minutes a game as

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 1>a rookie, really off to a promising start with the Pistons.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let me tell you this guy. I think I've

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 3>talked about it before, but I still get hate tweets

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:28.920
<v Speaker 3>and hate dms from people thinking I'm Chris Hayes, Chris Hayes,

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 3>the political commentary, even though our tone and our skin

0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 3>is totally different, totally different, you know, heyes, you know

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:42.240
<v Speaker 3>his his last time is Hayes. No end, I'm Hayes.

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:45.319
<v Speaker 3>But they still come at me. I'm like, hold on,

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 3>and I would understand that if my Twitter picture didn't

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 3>actually have a photo. There's my big black face in

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:56.759
<v Speaker 3>that photo right there, you clear as day. And if

0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.360
<v Speaker 3>that didn't give it away, with my face and complexion

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 3>did give it away, there's a bio right there that

0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 3>says NBA insider, t n T Sideline reporter. So I

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:09.040
<v Speaker 3>don't know people you know, people do want to do

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 3>the bare minimum. They look for whoever name looks similar

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 3>to the person that they hate at that time, and

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:18.319
<v Speaker 3>they'll send you like I get Steinn. I'm telling you, man,

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 3>I get some of the most hateful. Like I'm I'm like,

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:25.840
<v Speaker 3>i almost feel bad for Chris Hayes because I'm catching

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 3>the strays that he will ordinarily get. Now you have

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 3>to wonder, like, god, man, like what is he really

0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 3>getting in this DMS or in his mention? So, Chris Hayes,

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:42.360
<v Speaker 3>you're hey, budd, you know I feel for you because

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:45.360
<v Speaker 3>I see what you're getting on a limited basis.

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 1>But remember last year, didn't he tweet some NBA stuff

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:49.400
<v Speaker 1>at you and you guys were you guys said like

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 1>somehow you had to do. You guys were gonna do

0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:52.319
<v Speaker 1>a pod together so it could be.

0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:58.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he said that whatever he watches a game that

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm reporting on, they'll say, okay, now we're going to

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:04.400
<v Speaker 3>Chris Haynes on the court, and he saying just like

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 3>an anxiety attack because he's like, hold on, they going

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 3>to me. I'm at home, Like what so I get

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:15.720
<v Speaker 3>I definitely get that. I've heard that a few times,

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 3>but uh, yeah, so I've never I've never met him.

0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 3>Seems to be a cool guy. You know, politics is

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:25.000
<v Speaker 3>that's a different beast over there. Different beasts.

0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:27.920
<v Speaker 1>So Tuesday night, who you work with? Who will be

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 1>who will be throwing it to Chris Haynes on Tuesday night?

0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:34.360
<v Speaker 3>Tuesday Night, it will be let me see that is

0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 3>Clippers Denver. It will be Oh, Kevin Harlem, Reggie Miller, myself, nice.

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<v Speaker 1>All right man, Clippers Denver, the Denver Nuggets defending champion

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Denver Nuggets. Can the Clippers really get their first win

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 1>of the James Harden era against Nicola Jokicchenko?

0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Is that?

0:37:55.800 --> 0:38:00.280
<v Speaker 1>Is that feasible? Is that possible? The good new news

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:02.400
<v Speaker 1>is the next time Chris Haynes and I get together

0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:07.400
<v Speaker 1>for a podcast, we will have that answer and presumably

0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:12.880
<v Speaker 1>lots more discussion about the clips, about those defending champs,

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:20.240
<v Speaker 1>about all manner of NBA storylines and developments. Please remember,

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0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:35.520
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0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:37.799
<v Speaker 1>Chris and I will be back very soon with the

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