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Speaker 1: get into all of that now here on this League Uncut.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to this League Uncut. Can you rule of twenty

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Speaker 2: four hour NBA news?

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Speaker 1: This's you, Chris Hans.

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Speaker 2: It's time, work's time, it's some time. This League Uncut

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Speaker 2: is underway and on fire. This should be a good one.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in everyone to the latest edition of This League Uncut.

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Speaker 1: Mark Stein here with Chris Haynes. We are taping on

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Speaker 1: a Sunday night, so it's Monday morning that this is

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Speaker 1: actually this podcast has made its way to your phone.

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Speaker 1: Crazy Sunday night, Crazy good Sunday night in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: I know Sundays are supposed to belong exclusively to the NFL,

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Speaker 1: but I think hoop junkies like us and everybody listening,

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Speaker 1: it was hard to know where to look on this

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Speaker 1: Sunday night there were so many games and so many

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Speaker 1: interesting outcomes. The Warriors are losing at home to Minnesota

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Speaker 1: The MAVs went to New Orleans and rung up one

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Speaker 1: beat the Denver Nuggets, dealing the defending champions just their

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Speaker 1: San Antonio. The thunder go to Phoenix and get a win.

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Speaker 1: The Clippers. Okay, they lost their first three games with Harden.

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Speaker 1: Those were all on the road. They went to Madison Square,

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Speaker 1: Is it already a crisis in Clipperland? An Owen four

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Speaker 1: If we were, if we were in the same city,

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Speaker 1: would we like would we meet in the same have

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Speaker 1: to do pods like face to face? Yet it would

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Speaker 1: make it easy.

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Speaker 3: For sure, for sure, stein would be I mean, your wife,

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Speaker 3: I know you, I know it's what I know you.

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Speaker 1: I know I know you, I mean I know you. Guys,

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Speaker 1: are you know you're in the Sacramento mansion. You haven't

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Speaker 1: been there that long, but maybe you should put that

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Speaker 1: up for sale. We won't tell anybody about the fire,

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Speaker 1: alarm and move here.

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Speaker 3: You're talking to the wrong person. I tried to when

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Speaker 3: we were looking for a house. I tried to tell them, listen, baby,

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Speaker 3: our dollar will go a long long way in Texas.

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Speaker 3: She did not care. She wanted to stay in California.

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Speaker 3: So we had to settle for a shock here in

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Speaker 3: the Sacramento area. When I was a shock, we had

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Speaker 3: to settle for it.

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Speaker 1: So there's nothing nothing, It's nothing but gorgeous. Everything is

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Speaker 1: fantastic over there except the fire.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's a reason why you left California to be

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Speaker 3: over there, and and you stayed there.

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Speaker 1: Well, hey, it's the same reason I moved here, got married,

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Speaker 1: and missus Stein says, we live here here you go,

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Speaker 1: there you go.

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Speaker 3: Like I told you. Some some people at my gym

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Speaker 3: brought brought up my saying last episode, I told you,

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Speaker 3: there you go. Stein. You're you're you're proving my point.

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Speaker 3: Marriage is like soccer or football. If you would have

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Speaker 3: called that, you're mostly taking al's and ties. That's what

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Speaker 3: you're mostly taking al's and ties. Man like, if you

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Speaker 3: get a win, cherished that win. But it's it's pretty

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Speaker 3: much l's and ties.

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Speaker 1: So at the gym you heard about that.

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Speaker 3: People actually they brought that up. Yeah, yeah, they do that.

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Speaker 3: You know, I thought a.

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Speaker 1: Little little did they little did they know that on

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Speaker 1: this show besides NBA breakdowns, they were going to get marriage.

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Speaker 3: We do a little bit of it all, you know, Stein,

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Speaker 3: stephen A. I don't know if you've been watching stephen

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Speaker 3: A's content over on his podcast, Stein, I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you, but you know he ventures out.

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Speaker 1: I've heard, I've heard, I've heard, Well, he come on

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Speaker 1: our podcast. Why can't he come on our podcast?

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Speaker 3: I don't see why he could. Why we should?

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Speaker 1: I mean we'll offer I mean, maybe he will offer

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Speaker 1: him the same trade we offered Draymond Green. And that

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Speaker 1: was the other thing Friday, because I couldn't go to

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Speaker 1: the Clipper game, I was gonna I was gonna face

476
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Speaker 1: to face offer Paul George the same trade that we

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Speaker 1: offered Draymond Green. Come on our podcast and then we'll

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Speaker 1: come on your podcasts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that trade, maybe that trade offer is not as

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Speaker 1: appealing as I think heide.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if that's appealing. I

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Speaker 3: think I think he'll be more in line with give

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Speaker 3: doing us a favor. I don't know if we could

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Speaker 3: do him a favor at this point. But Stein, but

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Speaker 3: say say he say he because you know Stein again,

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Speaker 3: he's he's touching on he touches. He touches on a

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Speaker 3: lot on his podcast. What if he says Stein, he

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Speaker 3: will come on our podcast. But we can't talk sports.

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Speaker 3: We gotta talk current matters of the world. Are you

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Speaker 3: willing to go down that road? Stan? Yeah? All right,

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Speaker 3: Steve stephen A He was asked a question. I believe

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Speaker 3: it was his last episode, his question question.

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Speaker 1: I heard what it was, you want to go down

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Speaker 1: that road?

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Speaker 3: Start? What I'm saying is if we bring my brother

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Speaker 3: stephen A. Smith. Oh. What I'm saying is we gotta

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Speaker 3: be prepared to go down that road. So it's not

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Speaker 3: a matter if I prepare. Are you prepared? Stan?

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Speaker 1: I've done I've done enough TV with him to know

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Speaker 1: that I gotta be ready. That's fine. We got to

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Speaker 1: reach out. We got to reach out to him again

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Speaker 1: and see if we can get him done to make

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Speaker 1: a visit to this humble little pause.

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Speaker 3: So should we should we end?

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Speaker 1: I do have some breaking news. I have answers to questions.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny. I think producer Ryan just I think

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Speaker 1: he wants to change the name of this pod to

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Speaker 1: only Ties and Losses. He loves that. He loves that

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Speaker 1: every time you bring this up. But but this is,

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Speaker 1: this is not it's not breaking news in the strictest sense.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not the kind of breaking news that's going

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Speaker 1: to get NBA Twitter excited, but it is. It is legit.

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Speaker 1: It is going to be a legit disclosure that I'm

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Speaker 1: excited to share with you. Uh important, sorry, sorry, let

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Speaker 1: me let me, let me get it here. It's important information.

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Speaker 1: I finally, and I want to profusely thank our friend

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Speaker 1: Kletus Lewis from the Detroit Pistons, who who did the

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Speaker 1: legwork here, because if you remember, Sar Thompson and the

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Speaker 1: Detroit Pistons came to Dallas in the exhibition season, and

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Speaker 1: I promised you and Ryan that I was going to

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Speaker 1: track him down and ask him directly. Mister thoms young,

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Speaker 1: mister Thompson, do you and your brother Aman Thompson, do

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Speaker 1: you guys, are you guys aware of the nineteen eighties

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Speaker 1: brit pop band the Thompson Twins. Are you familiar with

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Speaker 1: their work? Do you know anything about him? Have you

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Speaker 1: at least heard of them? Because an old man like me,

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Speaker 1: who was a child of the eighties, if I hear

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Speaker 1: Thompson Twins, I mean you think of that group. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you don't because you know you're I don't know what

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Speaker 1: ten fifteen years younger than me. I can't somewhere between

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Speaker 1: ten and fifteen years younger. But if you were, if

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Speaker 1: you were in your fifties and you heard Thompson Twins,

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Speaker 1: I promise you that you would you would say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I remember that. I remember that group. And

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Speaker 1: both you and Ryan doubted that young Asar, Tom and

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Speaker 1: his brother were aware of the Thompson Twins from the eighties,

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Speaker 1: and I have since now confirmed with mister Lewis from

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Speaker 1: the Pistons, Yes, the Thompson Twins are aware of the

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Speaker 1: Thompson Twins. And Asar told Cletus yes, at one point

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Speaker 1: in the not too distant past, he was doing some

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Speaker 1: googling on his brother and himself and learned all about

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Speaker 1: learned all about the the nineteen eighties Thompson twins, so

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Speaker 1: we can put that mystery aside, and yeah, we now

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Speaker 1: have the answer that you and Ryan were so desperate for.

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Speaker 1: Just a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: Producer Ryan just said that it is indeed a shocking upset.

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Speaker 3: It is, but Producer Ryan, we should have known. We're

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Speaker 3: in the Internet days, we should know. I would have

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Speaker 3: thought that maybe his parents knew about it, and they

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Speaker 3: as their sons were climbing up the basketball rankings as

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Speaker 3: prep stars, that you know, they would think about, Oh,

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Speaker 3: Thompson twins, Tompson twel oh, we remember. I thought the

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Speaker 3: parents might have put him up on game. But of

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Speaker 3: course the Internet did it. The Internet gave it away.

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Speaker 3: So I should have thought, you know, maybe maybe that's

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Speaker 3: my best.

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Speaker 1: Because it's just like I It's just like I said,

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Speaker 1: if there was a world famous Chris Haynes from before

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Speaker 1: you were born, you would probably have come across it somehow,

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Speaker 1: some way. If there was a world famous Ryan Music

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Speaker 1: before producer Ryan was born, he would have known. He

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Speaker 1: would have known about that story. And so I'm that's

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Speaker 1: why I was sure. I was certain that this was

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Speaker 1: gonna be the response, and frankly, I wanted to shout

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Speaker 1: out of sar Thompson anyway, because he's really been playing

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Speaker 1: well here in his rookie season in Detroit. Right, the

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Speaker 1: Pistons struggling, but sixteen more rebounds for Thompson tonight in

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Speaker 1: a loss to Chicago, blocking two shots of game, double

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Speaker 1: digit rebounder playing nearly thirty two minutes a game as

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Speaker 1: a rookie, really off to a promising start with the Pistons.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you this guy. I think I've

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Speaker 3: talked about it before, but I still get hate tweets

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Speaker 3: and hate dms from people thinking I'm Chris Hayes, Chris Hayes,

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Speaker 3: the political commentary, even though our tone and our skin

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Speaker 3: is totally different, totally different, you know, heyes, you know

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Speaker 3: his his last time is Hayes. No end, I'm Hayes.

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Speaker 3: But they still come at me. I'm like, hold on,

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Speaker 3: and I would understand that if my Twitter picture didn't

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Speaker 3: actually have a photo. There's my big black face in

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Speaker 3: that photo right there, you clear as day. And if

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Speaker 3: that didn't give it away, with my face and complexion

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Speaker 3: did give it away, there's a bio right there that

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Speaker 3: says NBA insider, t n T Sideline reporter. So I

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00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 3: don't know people you know, people do want to do

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Speaker 3: the bare minimum. They look for whoever name looks similar

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Speaker 3: to the person that they hate at that time, and

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Speaker 3: they'll send you like I get Steinn. I'm telling you, man,

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Speaker 3: I get some of the most hateful. Like I'm I'm like,

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Speaker 3: i almost feel bad for Chris Hayes because I'm catching

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Speaker 3: the strays that he will ordinarily get. Now you have

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Speaker 3: to wonder, like, god, man, like what is he really

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Speaker 3: getting in this DMS or in his mention? So, Chris Hayes,

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Speaker 3: you're hey, budd, you know I feel for you because

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Speaker 3: I see what you're getting on a limited basis.

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Speaker 1: But remember last year, didn't he tweet some NBA stuff

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Speaker 1: at you and you guys were you guys said like

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Speaker 1: somehow you had to do. You guys were gonna do

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Speaker 1: a pod together so it could be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he said that whatever he watches a game that

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Speaker 3: I'm reporting on, they'll say, okay, now we're going to

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Speaker 3: Chris Haynes on the court, and he saying just like

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Speaker 3: an anxiety attack because he's like, hold on, they going

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Speaker 3: to me. I'm at home, Like what so I get

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Speaker 3: I definitely get that. I've heard that a few times,

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Speaker 3: but uh, yeah, so I've never I've never met him.

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Speaker 3: Seems to be a cool guy. You know, politics is

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Speaker 3: that's a different beast over there. Different beasts.

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Speaker 1: So Tuesday night, who you work with? Who will be

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Speaker 1: who will be throwing it to Chris Haynes on Tuesday night?

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Speaker 3: Tuesday Night, it will be let me see that is

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Speaker 3: Clippers Denver. It will be Oh, Kevin Harlem, Reggie Miller, myself, nice.

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Speaker 1: All right man, Clippers Denver, the Denver Nuggets defending champion

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Speaker 1: Denver Nuggets. Can the Clippers really get their first win

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Speaker 1: of the James Harden era against Nicola Jokicchenko?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 1: Is that feasible? Is that possible? The good new news

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Speaker 1: is the next time Chris Haynes and I get together

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Speaker 1: for a podcast, we will have that answer and presumably

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Speaker 1: lots more discussion about the clips, about those defending champs,

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Speaker 1: about all manner of NBA storylines and developments. Please remember,

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Speaker 1: Uncut wherever you get your podcasts, whether that's Apple, Spotify,

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Speaker 1: any other provider. Thanks for being with us, and don't worry,

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Speaker 1: Chris and I will be back very soon with the

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Speaker 1: next episode.

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Speaker 2: This League uncut, and that'll do it for us. See

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