WEBVTT - Chase Burns Reds extension, Toughest Trade Deadline decisions

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Rosenthal here with Alana Rizzo. Alana, we're through the

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<v Speaker 1>All Star Game, We're about to hit the trade deadline,

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<v Speaker 1>and we start the show with a little bit of news.

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Burns and the Cincinnati Reds in agreement on a

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<v Speaker 1>seven year, one hundred and five million dollar extension. It

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<v Speaker 1>starts next year. You can see right there the terms

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<v Speaker 1>no options, no deferrals, largest guarantee to a picture with

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<v Speaker 1>less than four years of service. This obviously is good

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<v Speaker 1>news for the Reds. They have wanted to sign Elie

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<v Speaker 1>Dela Cruz long term as well. That is not happening.

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<v Speaker 1>And Dela Cruz is represented, not by the people who

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<v Speaker 1>negotiated this deal, that was Greginsky and Eric Castro of

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<v Speaker 1>Vayner Sports, but Scott Boris, that is, Elie Delacruz is representative.

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<v Speaker 1>And Scott Boris rarely extensions with players that he represents

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<v Speaker 1>unless the player absolutely says he wants to. It happens,

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<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't happen very often. What Boris prefers as

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<v Speaker 1>his clients to establish their market value and as free agents.

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<v Speaker 1>So Chase Burns in the Reds. That's locked up. We

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<v Speaker 1>go forward, and there's a lot going on in the

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<v Speaker 1>sport right now, a lot of talk about deadline, Alana,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get right.

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<v Speaker 2>To it, all right, let's get to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Always good to be with you, Ken, really quickly before

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<v Speaker 3>we get to the deadline stuff. Just your quick assessment

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<v Speaker 3>of the All Star Game.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the game itself wasn't the most captivating, right, but

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<v Speaker 1>still the city of Philadelphia is shown pretty brightly in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion. And I went to school here and I

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<v Speaker 1>worked outside the city for a while, so I'm quite

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with it. Citizens Bank Park has been a revelation

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<v Speaker 1>in Philadelphia's sports because it changed the environment for the Phillies,

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<v Speaker 1>the dull environment and Veterans Stadium into an election one.

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<v Speaker 1>So I love the whole experience, the cave itself, Eh, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Just okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>I love the fact the collaboration between Major League Baseball

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<v Speaker 3>and Fox Sports. MLB on Fox an unbelievable homage to

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<v Speaker 3>the Sandlot and the fourth of July. What a beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>presentation and display. Good job on that, all right, all

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<v Speaker 3>eyes now, Ken, our attention is turned to the trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 2>Less than three weeks away. How do you think the

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<v Speaker 2>trade deadline has evolved?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's interesting, Alana. We wrote a story in The

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<v Speaker 1>Athletic Today, myself, Patrick Mooney, Will Salmon, and Katie Wu

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<v Speaker 1>about the deadline, and you can see the headline right there,

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<v Speaker 1>Blockbuster Summer. Why buying and selling at MLB's trade deadline

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<v Speaker 1>is more complicated than ever And really some changes have

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<v Speaker 1>taken place in recent years to alter the dynamics of

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<v Speaker 1>the deadline what we once knew starting in twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>That was when Major League Baseball eliminated the August waiver period.

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<v Speaker 1>So the deadline now is the true deadline. It's August

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<v Speaker 1>third this year, and after that no trades of consequence

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<v Speaker 1>can take place. So there's motivation certainly to make deals.

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<v Speaker 1>As we describe it in the lead of our story,

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<v Speaker 1>this is like a last chance to learn. Now. Come

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two, the playoffs expanded, and that has changed

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<v Speaker 1>the deadline too because there are more teams involved in

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<v Speaker 1>the mix less definition. We're definitely seeing that this year,

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<v Speaker 1>and what we're seeing right now are twenty three of

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<v Speaker 1>the thirty teams within four games of a playoff spot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's incredible. So the buyers the sellers. Teams aren't quite

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<v Speaker 1>sure where they are in many cases, and that has

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<v Speaker 1>changed the dynamic. Two. And then the final thing and

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<v Speaker 1>the thrust of this story that we wrote today is

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<v Speaker 1>how gms today heads of baseball operations are looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the same data. They kind of have the same mindsets

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<v Speaker 1>as Billy being described in our story. They kind of

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<v Speaker 1>function like actuaries. And what do actuaries for insurance companies do?

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<v Speaker 1>They seek to mitigate risk. Here's the quote from Billy Bean.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not a criticism, but by its nature, analytics

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<v Speaker 1>generally are very conservative. We sort of saw ourselves as actuaries, right,

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<v Speaker 1>actuaries from insurance companies in a very crude way. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what we were doing. Now they're doing it in an

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<v Speaker 1>even more sophisticated way. And what do actuaries do, as

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<v Speaker 1>I said before, they mitigate risk. So it's a different dynamic.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you might say, Okay, if no one's willing to

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<v Speaker 1>take a risk, then why do we have a record

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<v Speaker 1>number of trades on deadline day last year? Thirty six trades?

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<v Speaker 1>We have trades. We'll have a lot of trade this

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<v Speaker 1>season as well. The question is do we see the

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<v Speaker 1>big impact trades that we once did occasionally, Yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Trek Schooble, if the Tigers decide to move him,

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<v Speaker 1>is that guy. But as we kind of describe in

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<v Speaker 1>the story, even if Schooble moves, what team is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be willing to meet the Tigers price in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of both prospects and be willing to take on the

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<v Speaker 1>nearly ten million dollars salary as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Ken That's a perfect segue because everybody wants to know

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<v Speaker 3>what is the market for Trek Schooble. It's the question

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<v Speaker 3>that keeps getting asked, will the Tigers move him?

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<v Speaker 2>And if so, where do you think he's going?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the big question. The first one alta what

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<v Speaker 1>you just said, will the Tigers move him? I would

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<v Speaker 1>say the odds right now are considerably less than they

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<v Speaker 1>were on June first. Remember, on June first, and I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote about this, and I basically consider the trade was

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen at that point, And it looks now

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<v Speaker 1>that I might have been wrong. On June first, the

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<v Speaker 1>Tigers were twenty two and thirty eight, worst record in

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<v Speaker 1>the Major leagues. Since June first, they're twenty two and fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>tied for the best record in the American League. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're the Tigers, yeah, you're games for under five hundred,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're three and a half out in the wildcard race,

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<v Speaker 1>only six and a half out in a week division.

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<v Speaker 1>You see the division standings right there, you certainly have

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<v Speaker 1>a chance. You've got a chance because Schooble is healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>other players are healthy as well, and you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>week division in a week league. So a lot depends

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<v Speaker 1>not just for the Tigers but for all teams on

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<v Speaker 1>what happens in the next two and a half weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost going to be like a Pennant race of

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<v Speaker 1>its own, because we're gonna see teams trying to define themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>And it just seems to me, unless the Tigers outright

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<v Speaker 1>collapse Alana, that they're gonna be inclined to keep Schooble

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<v Speaker 1>and go for it. And why not. They're in a

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<v Speaker 1>league in which, if they get hot and maybe add pieces,

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<v Speaker 1>they can be the league champion and maybe even the

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<v Speaker 1>World Series champion.

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<v Speaker 3>Ken how much does the looming CBA and potential lockout

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<v Speaker 3>kind of creep over in terms of a dark cloud

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<v Speaker 3>on any sort of trades or movement going forward, It will.

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<v Speaker 1>Have something of an effect, I believe, but I don't know, Alana,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's going to have that big an effect. The

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<v Speaker 1>group of players that would be most affected here would

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<v Speaker 1>be the ones that are free agents after the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven season. So if you're in that position, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you do with a player like that? If you're

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<v Speaker 1>a team knowing that next season we may miss part

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<v Speaker 1>of it, we might miss all of it, and essentially

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<v Speaker 1>that player will be lost to you. Do you trade

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<v Speaker 1>him now? Or do you wait and have confidence that

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<v Speaker 1>this will all work out and you'll still have that

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<v Speaker 1>player under control for twenty twenty seven? Do you try

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<v Speaker 1>to extend that player now? There are all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>possibilities with those particular players, and yeah, that could have

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<v Speaker 1>an effect. But I do believe most teams are simply

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<v Speaker 1>going to try to win, and that's been the motivation

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<v Speaker 1>at the deadline forever. That's why the deadline is so exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>These teams are trying to make moves to better position themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>I still see that happening.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, so many moving parts, as so many teams

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<v Speaker 3>are certainly in that wildcard mix in the American League.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of the American League, can what are the Red

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<v Speaker 3>Sox going to do. They finished the first half of

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<v Speaker 3>the season winning nine straight games, forcing the issue, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>for Craig Breslow and Sam Kennedy in that front office.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they making moves? What do they do?

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<v Speaker 1>Alana, you're putting it to me too directly. What they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do and what they do, like I just

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<v Speaker 1>described with other teams, depends a lot on what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen over the next two to three weeks. Now

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<v Speaker 1>Here the Red Sox, they just had to end the

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<v Speaker 1>first half a nine game road winning streak against two

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<v Speaker 1>week opponents the Angels and Mets, and a better one.

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<v Speaker 1>The White Sox now comes to a different kind of test,

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<v Speaker 1>a ten game homestand and remember they haven't been as

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<v Speaker 1>good as whole at home as they have been on

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<v Speaker 1>the road home stand against Ale East opponents. It's Tampa

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<v Speaker 1>Bay four games in three days, It's Baltimore, a team

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<v Speaker 1>that's right in the middle of the wildcard race as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and then another team in the middle of the wildcard race, Toronto.

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<v Speaker 1>These ten games could go a long way toward defining

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<v Speaker 1>who the Red Sox are and what their direction might be,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe not.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see all right, same boat for the Orioles.

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<v Speaker 3>I seem like we talk about them a lot, but

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<v Speaker 3>they don't seem to have any sort of traction.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they in the same type of boat.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so interesting you put it that way, Alta, because yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they have not seemed to have any kind of traction.

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<v Speaker 1>But like the Red Sox, they benefited from a soft schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of the first half. They had the

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<v Speaker 1>Royals in town in Baltimore and they beat them three

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<v Speaker 1>straight games, had their first four game winning streak of

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<v Speaker 1>the season. The problem was they lost Blaize Alexander. They're

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<v Speaker 1>surging third basement to a broken hand in the final game.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, they have played. Are they playing well enough?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really think so. But there are only two

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<v Speaker 1>games out in the race of the Turtles American League

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<v Speaker 1>wildcard race. Yes they have a chance. I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>The race of the Turtles.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, National League much tighter, much more serious of

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<v Speaker 3>a league. This seeds in ken the Milwaukee Brewers. They

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<v Speaker 3>have added already Lance mccullors junior over from the Astros.

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<v Speaker 3>Are they done?

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<v Speaker 2>What do they need to do?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? Lance mccullor's junior, all due respect, is not nearly enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a guy who missed twenty three and twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>has a six and a half ERA since returning last

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<v Speaker 1>season and this season combined, so hopefully he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be healthy and hopefully he's going to pitch well for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Lance McCullers junior has accomplished a lot and been through

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, but the Brewers need more. And the question

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<v Speaker 1>with them right now, and it's so interesting because this

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<v Speaker 1>was the strength of their team in the early part

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<v Speaker 1>of the season. The question with them is their rotation.

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<v Speaker 1>Randon Wood he's out until at least September, Kyle Harrison

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<v Speaker 1>on the injured list with a left forearm strain that's

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<v Speaker 1>always ominous. And then Jacob Mizeraski as great as he

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<v Speaker 1>has been, and he has been amazing. He ended the

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<v Speaker 1>first half miss the starter, was scratched from his last

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<v Speaker 1>start with arm fatigue, and then he didn't pitch in

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<v Speaker 1>the All Star gave him no big deal there, But

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<v Speaker 1>is miss healthy? Is he going to be what he

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<v Speaker 1>was in the first half? Is Hale Harrison' going to

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<v Speaker 1>come back? The Brewers have these questions and maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>persuades them to be more aggressive with starting pitching or maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>and this to me is perhaps the more likely scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>They say, you know what, with all these pitching questions,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's not a year to go all in for

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<v Speaker 1>a terroek school. We maybe we do our usual thing,

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<v Speaker 1>work around the edges, do the best we can, but

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<v Speaker 1>we can't count on this being a World Series type year.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be kind of I'm trying to think of

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<v Speaker 1>the right words here, kind of a retreat, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not sure they're going to push really hard

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<v Speaker 1>and push forward in an aggressive way when they have

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<v Speaker 1>these questions looming over them.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, the Milwaukee Brewers can fifty nine and thirty seven,

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<v Speaker 3>a five game advantage in the NL es Central. As

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<v Speaker 3>we look at our focus in terms of the AL Central,

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<v Speaker 3>if you will, the White Sox, let's start there, and

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<v Speaker 3>then we'll also talk about the Cards and the Nats,

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<v Speaker 3>both in the National League. Of course, you're saying they

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to buy, why not let's start with the

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<v Speaker 3>White Sox.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, in an ideal world, actually I shouldn't put it

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<v Speaker 1>that way. It's not an ideal world. The ideal world

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<v Speaker 1>is to win, right, but these teams enter the season

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<v Speaker 1>not thinking they were going to win, probably anticipating that

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<v Speaker 1>they would be sellers, and now, in varying degrees, they

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<v Speaker 1>are all quite competitive. Now the Nationals to me, are

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<v Speaker 1>the most likely sellers in this group. They have a

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<v Speaker 1>great offense, terrible bullpen, blue three straight late inning leads

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<v Speaker 1>to the Yankees entering the break one game below five hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the Cardinals, on the other hand, or one game

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<v Speaker 1>out in the wildcard race in the National League, they

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<v Speaker 1>are five games over five hundred. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>they have enough pitching to one make the playoffs and

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<v Speaker 1>two win a playoff series. But it's not as if

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<v Speaker 1>they can sell here. They need to at least try

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<v Speaker 1>to supplement what they have. And then there are the

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<v Speaker 1>White Sox, who, of course are tied for the American

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<v Speaker 1>League Central League same record as the Cardinals fifty and

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<v Speaker 1>forty five. And the White Sox they're gonna try. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be aggressive. Now, They're not gonna go crazy

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<v Speaker 1>on rentals, but for controllable players, and they need pitching.

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<v Speaker 1>But for controllable players. Yeah, maybe they'll do something interesting

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<v Speaker 1>and I can see them being more aggressive than the

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<v Speaker 1>other two teams there.

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<v Speaker 3>Ken When you think about the San Diego Padres, You

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<v Speaker 3>automatically think aj Peler, you know that they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be making moves for better or for worse. What direction

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<v Speaker 3>do you think San Diego goes in.

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<v Speaker 1>They're another team Alana where it seemingly depends on the

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<v Speaker 1>next few and they have not been inspired at all

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<v Speaker 1>this season, last in the major leagues in runs per game,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventh in rotation era. They are a five hundred club.

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<v Speaker 1>They haven't played well really the whole year. And they've

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<v Speaker 1>got perhaps Nick Pavetta and Joe Musgrove coming back in August.

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<v Speaker 1>At least that's the expectation, and then you have to

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<v Speaker 1>wonder what they will be and the Padres have to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out, Okay, do we expect that these guys will

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<v Speaker 1>be actual contributors or can we just not count on

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<v Speaker 1>them that much? Really, there's no way to know. So

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<v Speaker 1>AJ Peler's instinct always is to put the best possible

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<v Speaker 1>team on the field, but in this case, if they

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<v Speaker 1>don't play well over the next two weeks two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half weeks, he's going to have to listen at

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<v Speaker 1>least two offers for closer Mason Miller. Now, maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get what he wants. Maybe he prefers to take

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<v Speaker 1>it into the offseason, when, of course there's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a lockout. I don't know, but they're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hanging on a thread here and it's kind of left

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<v Speaker 1>open the possibility of them going either way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the San Diego patter is very uninspired. Baseball Ken

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<v Speaker 3>twelve and a half games out of the Division, three

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<v Speaker 3>and a half out of the last wild card spot,

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<v Speaker 3>sitting at forty eight and forty eight at an even

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<v Speaker 3>five hundred. All right, we're gonna wrap up this first segment.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't forget to get those questions in Grill and Ken

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<v Speaker 3>All right, is time now for Grill and Ken. Don't

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<v Speaker 3>forget to get those questions in.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to as many as possible.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's start here with it's kind of a Major League

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<v Speaker 3>Baseball versus a Major League Baseball Players Association question. As

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<v Speaker 3>of course, the lockout is looming. Ken hopefully not if

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<v Speaker 3>they can get things together. But we'll try with this

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<v Speaker 3>first question anyway, as much as let's see, are we

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<v Speaker 3>we're putting the question up there?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>Are we any closer to harmony between the two sides?

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<v Speaker 2>Harmony?

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<v Speaker 1>We are so not closer to harmony. And both the

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<v Speaker 1>head of the Union, Bruce Meyer and the Commissioner of

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball Rob Mamford spoke to reporters at our annual BBWA

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<v Speaker 1>meeting at the All Star Game, and if you had

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<v Speaker 1>one takeaway, the one takeaway would be these two guys

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<v Speaker 1>are not even talking the same language. Of course, Major

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<v Speaker 1>League Baseball wants a salary cap and salary floor. The

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<v Speaker 1>Union wants nothing of the sort. The Union has always

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<v Speaker 1>been interested more in a free market flexibility. So that

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<v Speaker 1>is the essence of the problem. We could talk all

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<v Speaker 1>day about the different questions and things that came up,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's where we are, and I don't see it

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<v Speaker 1>getting any better anytime soon. I don't have any reason

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<v Speaker 1>to believe that a lockout will not take a place,

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<v Speaker 1>a take effect on June. I'm sorry on December first,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm mixing up to my dates here. There's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a lockout, and the question is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>how long it's going to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, that's so unfortunate, considering baseball popularity is at an

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<v Speaker 3>all time high. It'd be nice that these guys on

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<v Speaker 3>both sides of the table can get it together. First question,

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of the chat from Jim Jim Werdta. As

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<v Speaker 3>much as he wants to ask about the Sleeping Mariners,

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<v Speaker 3>the more juicy question is this. Do you see any

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<v Speaker 3>owner selling all or minority shares of their team the

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<v Speaker 3>minute a new CBA is agreed upon.

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<v Speaker 1>It depends on a few things. What kind of CBA

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<v Speaker 1>are we looking at. If we're looking at one that

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<v Speaker 1>does include a salary cap and floor, the purpose of that,

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<v Speaker 1>despite what the owners might say about wanting to honor

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<v Speaker 1>the fans' desires, the purpose of a salary cap and

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<v Speaker 1>floor is for the owners to enhance their franchise values.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what a CAP would do. That's what they want.

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<v Speaker 1>So if they get a cap, I can see teams

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<v Speaker 1>being sold and being sold for great prices because at

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<v Speaker 1>that point the owners will have the certainty that they

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<v Speaker 1>want and that will make of course the franchise is

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<v Speaker 1>in some ways more attractive. Now you can make franchise

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<v Speaker 1>values more attractive even without a cap. We're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to get into all that right now, but again, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the motivation here in many ways, actually the prime

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<v Speaker 1>motivation salary cap enhanced franchise values. That's what the owners want.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I wish in the next life that I was

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<v Speaker 3>the owner of a major League baseball team or the

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<v Speaker 3>Seattle Seahawks who just sold for gazillion dollars, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>Jim Jim Ward that Ken has another question here, are

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<v Speaker 3>we sleeping on the Twins or are they really a

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<v Speaker 3>sixth seed in the wildcard?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I would say we've slept on them the whole season,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've slept on them for good reason. They ripped

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<v Speaker 1>up their entire team at last year's deadline, traded pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much their entire bullpen, and of course got rid of

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<v Speaker 1>Carlos Korea as well. Now they've played really well and

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<v Speaker 1>they still need bullpen help and they're probably going to

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<v Speaker 1>try to get it. What's interesting about the Twins is

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<v Speaker 1>that they could be something of a surprise buyer. For

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<v Speaker 1>all the talk of Joe Ryan and Byron Buxton going

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere else, I don't see that happening, and they're not

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<v Speaker 1>signaling that that's going to happen. And of course Buxton

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<v Speaker 1>where there no trade to sing, he doesn't want it

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. What they should do is try to go

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<v Speaker 1>forward a little bit, and their new control person, Tompo

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<v Speaker 1>lad has basically said he wants to do some things

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<v Speaker 1>that will bring the franchise back to a better place

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<v Speaker 1>within the community. Fans don't like that. Team right now.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't like them because of the way they've been run.

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<v Speaker 1>Not the players, it's the way that they've been run,

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<v Speaker 1>cutting payroll after making the playoffs all of that. So

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<v Speaker 1>I can see the team or the Twins being a

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<v Speaker 1>bit aggressive here.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, just flow is our final question here, and

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<v Speaker 3>Grill and Ken wants to know who do you think

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<v Speaker 3>was the biggest winner of the draft obviously Major League

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<v Speaker 3>Baseball amateur draft just happening over the course of this

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<v Speaker 3>All Star Week.

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody that stick out to you?

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, Lean, I am not a draft expert, and I

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<v Speaker 1>do not follow the draft that closely, so I would

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<v Speaker 1>be going out of my lane if I started breaking

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<v Speaker 1>down the draft right here. I cover all thirty teams,

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<v Speaker 1>but really at the major league level, So I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to pass on this question out of ignorance.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>See, that's what makes you good at what you do

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<v Speaker 3>because you do know when not to speak when you're uninformed,

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<v Speaker 3>and I love that about you, Ken Rosenthal, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully he's going to pitch soon after getting his knee

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<v Speaker 3>we can in person. Anybody that you're looking forward to seeing,

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<v Speaker 1>We do. It's Yankees Dodgers, so I'd have to say

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to that Yankee Stadium, those two teams.

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<v Speaker 1>It should be rather lively.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm looking forward to that as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there are a lot of really good options

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<v Speaker 3>to choose from this week. Ken, who is your due

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<v Speaker 3>to the week Jordan Walker?

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<v Speaker 1>And I encourage everyone to read the fabulous story by

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<v Speaker 1>Katie Woo today in The Athletic on the home run

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<v Speaker 1>derby champion a year ago. Jordan Walker was reworking his

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<v Speaker 1>swing while on a double a rehabilitation assignment. And I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. You know this a lot because I talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it a lot. I love it when guys who

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<v Speaker 1>were down find a way to get up again, and

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<v Speaker 1>he certainly did that and terrific performance. Of course in

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<v Speaker 1>the derby were the all star Jordan Walker due to

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<v Speaker 1>the week.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was making one hundred eight hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 3>this year, Ken, is his salary that one night, that

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<v Speaker 3>right swing a million. His mom and dad were there

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<v Speaker 3>cheering him on. His lovely girlfriend was walking down the

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<v Speaker 3>red carpet with them. So awesome opportunity for Jordan Walker.

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<v Speaker 2>Well done.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, my dude of the week are five kids,

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<v Speaker 3>and they are kids to me. But in twenty nineteen, Ken,

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<v Speaker 3>I took a photo. Happened to just snap a photo

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<v Speaker 3>of these five young men. The Dodgers were playing the

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<v Speaker 3>Phillies at Citizens Bank Park and you see in this

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<v Speaker 3>photo both of the Ebel boys, Trey and Brady Ebel,

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<v Speaker 3>and you also see Jacob Lombard as well as George

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<v Speaker 3>Lombard Junior. And right in the middle is Cole Roberts

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<v Speaker 3>Dave and Trisha Robert's son. Well, these kids have basically

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<v Speaker 3>grown up at the ballpark. I snapped this photo of

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<v Speaker 3>these guys. All five of them have been drafted into

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<v Speaker 3>Major League Baseball at some level or another, or drafted

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<v Speaker 3>into pro ball. I should say both Ebel boys Dino

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<v Speaker 3>Ebel's son, the third base coach of the Los Angeles Dodgers.

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<v Speaker 3>They've been drafted by the Brewers organization. George Lombard Junior

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<v Speaker 3>was drafted by the Yankees organization, and Jacob Lombard was

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<v Speaker 3>just drafted as the four fourteenth pick in the first

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<v Speaker 3>round to the Miami Marlins organization. That is his hometown team.

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<v Speaker 3>And now Cole Roberts is the bench coach for Single

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<v Speaker 3>A in the Tigers organization.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's just great to see these.

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<v Speaker 3>Young I mean, they were kids and now they've all

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<v Speaker 3>been drafted or have some level of you know, going

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<v Speaker 3>ons with with pro ball. So congratulations to all five

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<v Speaker 3>of those young men. All right, time now for the

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<v Speaker 3>dork of the week. Okay, Ken, who's your dork?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Alana, I'm going to start off with a qualifier,

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<v Speaker 1>and the qualifier is this, I have mispronounced names on

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<v Speaker 1>national television. I have mispronounced names on this network's the

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<v Speaker 1>foul Territory Network. So I understand that that can happen,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to give a little bit of grace.

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<v Speaker 1>I know people don't want to give grace at times

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<v Speaker 1>like that, but in general, I would say grace is

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<v Speaker 1>not a bad thing to do with mispronunciations. That said,

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<v Speaker 1>when Rob Manfred, the Commissioner of Baseball, mispronounced the number

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<v Speaker 1>one pick in the Giraft's name on national television, it

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<v Speaker 1>was not a great look. And that's why Rob Manfred

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be the dork of the week. It's Rockchulowski,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not Rock Chaluski. And it's almost a situation where

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<v Speaker 1>you've got one job as the commissioner. In that situation,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got one job instack at the names, right. It's

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<v Speaker 1>actually the one job we all have at all times,

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<v Speaker 1>and none of us really should ever get any name wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>but it does happen. That said, that was a bad

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<v Speaker 1>time for it to happen. I get it, it can happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But Rob Manfred dork of the week for that reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I completely understand that that is your one job.

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<v Speaker 3>You are the commissioner of the league. He's been the

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<v Speaker 3>one to one for at least a year. We've known

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<v Speaker 3>about that. I've done it too, though. I remember calling

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<v Speaker 3>Mark to share a Mark Texi era. I remember calling

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<v Speaker 3>Michael could die or Mike Kudgier. I mean, I've I've

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<v Speaker 3>done my fair share of mispronunciations as well.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, my.

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<v Speaker 3>Dork of the week is Mike Tyson, and I can't

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<v Speaker 3>even describe why.

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<v Speaker 2>I will let him describe.

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<v Speaker 1>Why show he could not be here tonight.

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<v Speaker 5>He sends his gratitude and appreciation at ESPN and everyone

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<v Speaker 5>who voted for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Show Mike Tyson, please don't ever change show Hey Otani. Ken,

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Tyson did not know who Show Hey Otani was.

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<v Speaker 3>He called him Atani, which is fine again name mispronunciation.

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<v Speaker 3>But then he looked at uh was it John Paul

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<v Speaker 3>or Jake Paul or whatever, say, I don't know who

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<v Speaker 3>that guy is, and said, oh, Show he's a guy.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't know that show Hey Otani was a man? Ken,

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<v Speaker 2>How do you not know show he's a man? I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so confused.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, we're delivered in your own world.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the guy. He's the guy.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, guys, that's it for us here at foul

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<v Speaker 3>Territory or fair territory rather with Ken Rosenthal.

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<v Speaker 2>Foul Territory is back. It is coming up next.

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<v Speaker 3>Eric Kratz, Kevin Polar, Scott Braund, Robert Murray and James

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<v Speaker 3>began join and don't forget Ken is back on Monday.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a great weekend, everybody