Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm
Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal here with Alana Rizzo. Alana, we're through the
Speaker 1: All Star Game, We're about to hit the trade deadline,
Speaker 1: and we start the show with a little bit of news.
Speaker 1: Chase Burns and the Cincinnati Reds in agreement on a
Speaker 1: seven year, one hundred and five million dollar extension. It
Speaker 1: starts next year. You can see right there the terms
Speaker 1: no options, no deferrals, largest guarantee to a picture with
Speaker 1: less than four years of service. This obviously is good
Speaker 1: news for the Reds. They have wanted to sign Elie
Speaker 1: Dela Cruz long term as well. That is not happening.
Speaker 1: And Dela Cruz is represented, not by the people who
Speaker 1: negotiated this deal, that was Greginsky and Eric Castro of
Speaker 1: Vayner Sports, but Scott Boris, that is, Elie Delacruz is representative.
Speaker 1: And Scott Boris rarely extensions with players that he represents
Speaker 1: unless the player absolutely says he wants to. It happens,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't happen very often. What Boris prefers as
Speaker 1: his clients to establish their market value and as free agents.
Speaker 1: So Chase Burns in the Reds. That's locked up. We
Speaker 1: go forward, and there's a lot going on in the
Speaker 1: sport right now, a lot of talk about deadline, Alana,
Speaker 1: So let's get right.
Speaker 2: To it, all right, let's get to it.
Speaker 3: Always good to be with you, Ken, really quickly before
Speaker 3: we get to the deadline stuff. Just your quick assessment
Speaker 3: of the All Star Game.
Speaker 1: Well, the game itself wasn't the most captivating, right, but
Speaker 1: still the city of Philadelphia is shown pretty brightly in
Speaker 1: my opinion. And I went to school here and I
Speaker 1: worked outside the city for a while, so I'm quite
Speaker 1: familiar with it. Citizens Bank Park has been a revelation
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia's sports because it changed the environment for the Phillies,
Speaker 1: the dull environment and Veterans Stadium into an election one.
Speaker 1: So I love the whole experience, the cave itself, Eh, it's.
Speaker 2: Just okay, all right.
Speaker 3: I love the fact the collaboration between Major League Baseball
Speaker 3: and Fox Sports. MLB on Fox an unbelievable homage to
Speaker 3: the Sandlot and the fourth of July. What a beautiful
Speaker 3: presentation and display. Good job on that, all right, all
Speaker 3: eyes now, Ken, our attention is turned to the trade deadline.
Speaker 2: Less than three weeks away. How do you think the
Speaker 2: trade deadline has evolved?
Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting, Alana. We wrote a story in The
Speaker 1: Athletic Today, myself, Patrick Mooney, Will Salmon, and Katie Wu
Speaker 1: about the deadline, and you can see the headline right there,
Speaker 1: Blockbuster Summer. Why buying and selling at MLB's trade deadline
Speaker 1: is more complicated than ever And really some changes have
Speaker 1: taken place in recent years to alter the dynamics of
Speaker 1: the deadline what we once knew starting in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: That was when Major League Baseball eliminated the August waiver period.
Speaker 1: So the deadline now is the true deadline. It's August
Speaker 1: third this year, and after that no trades of consequence
Speaker 1: can take place. So there's motivation certainly to make deals.
Speaker 1: As we describe it in the lead of our story,
Speaker 1: this is like a last chance to learn. Now. Come
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, the playoffs expanded, and that has changed
Speaker 1: the deadline too because there are more teams involved in
Speaker 1: the mix less definition. We're definitely seeing that this year,
Speaker 1: and what we're seeing right now are twenty three of
Speaker 1: the thirty teams within four games of a playoff spot.
Speaker 1: It's incredible. So the buyers the sellers. Teams aren't quite
Speaker 1: sure where they are in many cases, and that has
Speaker 1: changed the dynamic. Two. And then the final thing and
Speaker 1: the thrust of this story that we wrote today is
Speaker 1: how gms today heads of baseball operations are looking at
Speaker 1: the same data. They kind of have the same mindsets
Speaker 1: as Billy being described in our story. They kind of
Speaker 1: function like actuaries. And what do actuaries for insurance companies do?
Speaker 1: They seek to mitigate risk. Here's the quote from Billy Bean.
Speaker 1: This is not a criticism, but by its nature, analytics
Speaker 1: generally are very conservative. We sort of saw ourselves as actuaries, right,
Speaker 1: actuaries from insurance companies in a very crude way. That's
Speaker 1: what we were doing. Now they're doing it in an
Speaker 1: even more sophisticated way. And what do actuaries do, as
Speaker 1: I said before, they mitigate risk. So it's a different dynamic.
Speaker 1: Then you might say, Okay, if no one's willing to
Speaker 1: take a risk, then why do we have a record
Speaker 1: number of trades on deadline day last year? Thirty six trades?
Speaker 1: We have trades. We'll have a lot of trade this
Speaker 1: season as well. The question is do we see the
Speaker 1: big impact trades that we once did occasionally, Yes, and
Speaker 1: maybe Trek Schooble, if the Tigers decide to move him,
Speaker 1: is that guy. But as we kind of describe in
Speaker 1: the story, even if Schooble moves, what team is going
Speaker 1: to be willing to meet the Tigers price in terms
Speaker 1: of both prospects and be willing to take on the
Speaker 1: nearly ten million dollars salary as well.
Speaker 3: Ken That's a perfect segue because everybody wants to know
Speaker 3: what is the market for Trek Schooble. It's the question
Speaker 3: that keeps getting asked, will the Tigers move him?
Speaker 2: And if so, where do you think he's going?
Speaker 1: Well, that's the big question. The first one alta what
Speaker 1: you just said, will the Tigers move him? I would
Speaker 1: say the odds right now are considerably less than they
Speaker 1: were on June first. Remember, on June first, and I
Speaker 1: wrote about this, and I basically consider the trade was
Speaker 1: going to happen at that point, And it looks now
Speaker 1: that I might have been wrong. On June first, the
Speaker 1: Tigers were twenty two and thirty eight, worst record in
Speaker 1: the Major leagues. Since June first, they're twenty two and fourteen,
Speaker 1: tied for the best record in the American League. So
Speaker 1: if you're the Tigers, yeah, you're games for under five hundred,
Speaker 1: but you're three and a half out in the wildcard race,
Speaker 1: only six and a half out in a week division.
Speaker 1: You see the division standings right there, you certainly have
Speaker 1: a chance. You've got a chance because Schooble is healthy,
Speaker 1: other players are healthy as well, and you're in a
Speaker 1: week division in a week league. So a lot depends
Speaker 1: not just for the Tigers but for all teams on
Speaker 1: what happens in the next two and a half weeks.
Speaker 1: It's almost going to be like a Pennant race of
Speaker 1: its own, because we're gonna see teams trying to define themselves.
Speaker 1: And it just seems to me, unless the Tigers outright
Speaker 1: collapse Alana, that they're gonna be inclined to keep Schooble
Speaker 1: and go for it. And why not. They're in a
Speaker 1: league in which, if they get hot and maybe add pieces,
Speaker 1: they can be the league champion and maybe even the
Speaker 1: World Series champion.
Speaker 3: Ken how much does the looming CBA and potential lockout
Speaker 3: kind of creep over in terms of a dark cloud
Speaker 3: on any sort of trades or movement going forward, It will.
Speaker 1: Have something of an effect, I believe, but I don't know, Alana,
Speaker 1: if it's going to have that big an effect. The
Speaker 1: group of players that would be most affected here would
Speaker 1: be the ones that are free agents after the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty seven season. So if you're in that position, what
Speaker 1: do you do with a player like that? If you're
Speaker 1: a team knowing that next season we may miss part
Speaker 1: of it, we might miss all of it, and essentially
Speaker 1: that player will be lost to you. Do you trade
Speaker 1: him now? Or do you wait and have confidence that
Speaker 1: this will all work out and you'll still have that
Speaker 1: player under control for twenty twenty seven? Do you try
Speaker 1: to extend that player now? There are all kinds of
Speaker 1: possibilities with those particular players, and yeah, that could have
Speaker 1: an effect. But I do believe most teams are simply
Speaker 1: going to try to win, and that's been the motivation
Speaker 1: at the deadline forever. That's why the deadline is so exciting.
Speaker 1: These teams are trying to make moves to better position themselves.
Speaker 1: I still see that happening.
Speaker 3: All right, so many moving parts, as so many teams
Speaker 3: are certainly in that wildcard mix in the American League.
Speaker 3: Speaking of the American League, can what are the Red
Speaker 3: Sox going to do. They finished the first half of
Speaker 3: the season winning nine straight games, forcing the issue, of course,
Speaker 3: for Craig Breslow and Sam Kennedy in that front office.
Speaker 2: Are they making moves? What do they do?
Speaker 1: Alana, you're putting it to me too directly. What they're
Speaker 1: going to do and what they do, like I just
Speaker 1: described with other teams, depends a lot on what's going
Speaker 1: to happen over the next two to three weeks. Now
Speaker 1: Here the Red Sox, they just had to end the
Speaker 1: first half a nine game road winning streak against two
Speaker 1: week opponents the Angels and Mets, and a better one.
Speaker 1: The White Sox now comes to a different kind of test,
Speaker 1: a ten game homestand and remember they haven't been as
Speaker 1: good as whole at home as they have been on
Speaker 1: the road home stand against Ale East opponents. It's Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay four games in three days, It's Baltimore, a team
Speaker 1: that's right in the middle of the wildcard race as well,
Speaker 1: and then another team in the middle of the wildcard race, Toronto.
Speaker 1: These ten games could go a long way toward defining
Speaker 1: who the Red Sox are and what their direction might be,
Speaker 1: or maybe not.
Speaker 2: We'll see all right, same boat for the Orioles.
Speaker 3: I seem like we talk about them a lot, but
Speaker 3: they don't seem to have any sort of traction.
Speaker 2: Are they in the same type of boat.
Speaker 1: It's so interesting you put it that way, Alta, because yes,
Speaker 1: they have not seemed to have any kind of traction.
Speaker 1: But like the Red Sox, they benefited from a soft schedule.
Speaker 1: At the end of the first half. They had the
Speaker 1: Royals in town in Baltimore and they beat them three
Speaker 1: straight games, had their first four game winning streak of
Speaker 1: the season. The problem was they lost Blaize Alexander. They're
Speaker 1: surging third basement to a broken hand in the final game.
Speaker 1: But yes, they have played. Are they playing well enough?
Speaker 1: I don't really think so. But there are only two
Speaker 1: games out in the race of the Turtles American League
Speaker 1: wildcard race. Yes they have a chance. I love that.
Speaker 2: The race of the Turtles.
Speaker 3: All right, National League much tighter, much more serious of
Speaker 3: a league. This seeds in ken the Milwaukee Brewers. They
Speaker 3: have added already Lance mccullors junior over from the Astros.
Speaker 3: Are they done?
Speaker 2: What do they need to do?
Speaker 1: Well? Lance mccullor's junior, all due respect, is not nearly enough.
Speaker 1: Is a guy who missed twenty three and twenty four
Speaker 1: has a six and a half ERA since returning last
Speaker 1: season and this season combined, so hopefully he's going to
Speaker 1: be healthy and hopefully he's going to pitch well for them.
Speaker 1: Lance McCullers junior has accomplished a lot and been through
Speaker 1: a lot, but the Brewers need more. And the question
Speaker 1: with them right now, and it's so interesting because this
Speaker 1: was the strength of their team in the early part
Speaker 1: of the season. The question with them is their rotation.
Speaker 1: Randon Wood he's out until at least September, Kyle Harrison
Speaker 1: on the injured list with a left forearm strain that's
Speaker 1: always ominous. And then Jacob Mizeraski as great as he
Speaker 1: has been, and he has been amazing. He ended the
Speaker 1: first half miss the starter, was scratched from his last
Speaker 1: start with arm fatigue, and then he didn't pitch in
Speaker 1: the All Star gave him no big deal there, But
Speaker 1: is miss healthy? Is he going to be what he
Speaker 1: was in the first half? Is Hale Harrison' going to
Speaker 1: come back? The Brewers have these questions and maybe it
Speaker 1: persuades them to be more aggressive with starting pitching or maybe,
Speaker 1: and this to me is perhaps the more likely scenario.
Speaker 1: They say, you know what, with all these pitching questions,
Speaker 1: maybe it's not a year to go all in for
Speaker 1: a terroek school. We maybe we do our usual thing,
Speaker 1: work around the edges, do the best we can, but
Speaker 1: we can't count on this being a World Series type year.
Speaker 1: It would be kind of I'm trying to think of
Speaker 1: the right words here, kind of a retreat, I guess.
Speaker 1: But I'm not sure they're going to push really hard
Speaker 1: and push forward in an aggressive way when they have
Speaker 1: these questions looming over them.
Speaker 3: Right now, the Milwaukee Brewers can fifty nine and thirty seven,
Speaker 3: a five game advantage in the NL es Central. As
Speaker 3: we look at our focus in terms of the AL Central,
Speaker 3: if you will, the White Sox, let's start there, and
Speaker 3: then we'll also talk about the Cards and the Nats,
Speaker 3: both in the National League. Of course, you're saying they
Speaker 3: don't want to buy, why not let's start with the
Speaker 3: White Sox.
Speaker 1: Well, in an ideal world, actually I shouldn't put it
Speaker 1: that way. It's not an ideal world. The ideal world
Speaker 1: is to win, right, but these teams enter the season
Speaker 1: not thinking they were going to win, probably anticipating that
Speaker 1: they would be sellers, and now, in varying degrees, they
Speaker 1: are all quite competitive. Now the Nationals to me, are
Speaker 1: the most likely sellers in this group. They have a
Speaker 1: great offense, terrible bullpen, blue three straight late inning leads
Speaker 1: to the Yankees entering the break one game below five hundred.
Speaker 1: Now the Cardinals, on the other hand, or one game
Speaker 1: out in the wildcard race in the National League, they
Speaker 1: are five games over five hundred. I don't know that
Speaker 1: they have enough pitching to one make the playoffs and
Speaker 1: two win a playoff series. But it's not as if
Speaker 1: they can sell here. They need to at least try
Speaker 1: to supplement what they have. And then there are the
Speaker 1: White Sox, who, of course are tied for the American
Speaker 1: League Central League same record as the Cardinals fifty and
Speaker 1: forty five. And the White Sox they're gonna try. Yes,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be aggressive. Now, They're not gonna go crazy
Speaker 1: on rentals, but for controllable players, and they need pitching.
Speaker 1: But for controllable players. Yeah, maybe they'll do something interesting
Speaker 1: and I can see them being more aggressive than the
Speaker 1: other two teams there.
Speaker 3: Ken When you think about the San Diego Padres, You
Speaker 3: automatically think aj Peler, you know that they're going to
Speaker 3: be making moves for better or for worse. What direction
Speaker 3: do you think San Diego goes in.
Speaker 1: They're another team Alana where it seemingly depends on the
Speaker 1: next few and they have not been inspired at all
Speaker 1: this season, last in the major leagues in runs per game,
Speaker 1: twenty seventh in rotation era. They are a five hundred club.
Speaker 1: They haven't played well really the whole year. And they've
Speaker 1: got perhaps Nick Pavetta and Joe Musgrove coming back in August.
Speaker 1: At least that's the expectation, and then you have to
Speaker 1: wonder what they will be and the Padres have to
Speaker 1: figure out, Okay, do we expect that these guys will
Speaker 1: be actual contributors or can we just not count on
Speaker 1: them that much? Really, there's no way to know. So
Speaker 1: AJ Peler's instinct always is to put the best possible
Speaker 1: team on the field, but in this case, if they
Speaker 1: don't play well over the next two weeks two and
Speaker 1: a half weeks, he's going to have to listen at
Speaker 1: least two offers for closer Mason Miller. Now, maybe he
Speaker 1: doesn't get what he wants. Maybe he prefers to take
Speaker 1: it into the offseason, when, of course there's going to
Speaker 1: be a lockout. I don't know, but they're kind of
Speaker 1: hanging on a thread here and it's kind of left
Speaker 1: open the possibility of them going either way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the San Diego patter is very uninspired. Baseball Ken
Speaker 3: twelve and a half games out of the Division, three
Speaker 3: and a half out of the last wild card spot,
Speaker 3: sitting at forty eight and forty eight at an even
Speaker 3: five hundred. All right, we're gonna wrap up this first segment.
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Speaker 3: All right, is time now for Grill and Ken. Don't
Speaker 3: forget to get those questions in.
Speaker 2: We'll get to as many as possible.
Speaker 3: Let's start here with it's kind of a Major League
Speaker 3: Baseball versus a Major League Baseball Players Association question. As
Speaker 3: of course, the lockout is looming. Ken hopefully not if
Speaker 3: they can get things together. But we'll try with this
Speaker 3: first question anyway, as much as let's see, are we
Speaker 3: we're putting the question up there?
Speaker 2: All right, here we go.
Speaker 3: Are we any closer to harmony between the two sides?
Speaker 2: Harmony?
Speaker 1: We are so not closer to harmony. And both the
Speaker 1: head of the Union, Bruce Meyer and the Commissioner of
Speaker 1: Baseball Rob Mamford spoke to reporters at our annual BBWA
Speaker 1: meeting at the All Star Game, and if you had
Speaker 1: one takeaway, the one takeaway would be these two guys
Speaker 1: are not even talking the same language. Of course, Major
Speaker 1: League Baseball wants a salary cap and salary floor. The
Speaker 1: Union wants nothing of the sort. The Union has always
Speaker 1: been interested more in a free market flexibility. So that
Speaker 1: is the essence of the problem. We could talk all
Speaker 1: day about the different questions and things that came up,
Speaker 1: but that's where we are, and I don't see it
Speaker 1: getting any better anytime soon. I don't have any reason
Speaker 1: to believe that a lockout will not take a place,
Speaker 1: a take effect on June. I'm sorry on December first,
Speaker 1: I'm mixing up to my dates here. There's going to
Speaker 1: be a lockout, and the question is going to be
Speaker 1: how long it's going to go.
Speaker 3: Now, that's so unfortunate, considering baseball popularity is at an
Speaker 3: all time high. It'd be nice that these guys on
Speaker 3: both sides of the table can get it together. First question,
Speaker 3: in terms of the chat from Jim Jim Werdta. As
Speaker 3: much as he wants to ask about the Sleeping Mariners,
Speaker 3: the more juicy question is this. Do you see any
Speaker 3: owner selling all or minority shares of their team the
Speaker 3: minute a new CBA is agreed upon.
Speaker 1: It depends on a few things. What kind of CBA
Speaker 1: are we looking at. If we're looking at one that
Speaker 1: does include a salary cap and floor, the purpose of that,
Speaker 1: despite what the owners might say about wanting to honor
Speaker 1: the fans' desires, the purpose of a salary cap and
Speaker 1: floor is for the owners to enhance their franchise values.
Speaker 1: That's what a CAP would do. That's what they want.
Speaker 1: So if they get a cap, I can see teams
Speaker 1: being sold and being sold for great prices because at
Speaker 1: that point the owners will have the certainty that they
Speaker 1: want and that will make of course the franchise is
Speaker 1: in some ways more attractive. Now you can make franchise
Speaker 1: values more attractive even without a cap. We're not going
Speaker 1: to get into all that right now, but again, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the motivation here in many ways, actually the prime
Speaker 1: motivation salary cap enhanced franchise values. That's what the owners want.
Speaker 3: Man, I wish in the next life that I was
Speaker 3: the owner of a major League baseball team or the
Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks who just sold for gazillion dollars, all right,
Speaker 3: Jim Jim Ward that Ken has another question here, are
Speaker 3: we sleeping on the Twins or are they really a
Speaker 3: sixth seed in the wildcard?
Speaker 1: Well, I would say we've slept on them the whole season,
Speaker 1: and we've slept on them for good reason. They ripped
Speaker 1: up their entire team at last year's deadline, traded pretty
Speaker 1: much their entire bullpen, and of course got rid of
Speaker 1: Carlos Korea as well. Now they've played really well and
Speaker 1: they still need bullpen help and they're probably going to
Speaker 1: try to get it. What's interesting about the Twins is
Speaker 1: that they could be something of a surprise buyer. For
Speaker 1: all the talk of Joe Ryan and Byron Buxton going
Speaker 1: somewhere else, I don't see that happening, and they're not
Speaker 1: signaling that that's going to happen. And of course Buxton
Speaker 1: where there no trade to sing, he doesn't want it
Speaker 1: to happen. What they should do is try to go
Speaker 1: forward a little bit, and their new control person, Tompo
Speaker 1: lad has basically said he wants to do some things
Speaker 1: that will bring the franchise back to a better place
Speaker 1: within the community. Fans don't like that. Team right now.
Speaker 1: They don't like them because of the way they've been run.
Speaker 1: Not the players, it's the way that they've been run,
Speaker 1: cutting payroll after making the playoffs all of that. So
Speaker 1: I can see the team or the Twins being a
Speaker 1: bit aggressive here.
Speaker 3: All right, just flow is our final question here, and
Speaker 3: Grill and Ken wants to know who do you think
Speaker 3: was the biggest winner of the draft obviously Major League
Speaker 3: Baseball amateur draft just happening over the course of this
Speaker 3: All Star Week.
Speaker 2: Anybody that stick out to you?
Speaker 1: Honestly, Lean, I am not a draft expert, and I
Speaker 1: do not follow the draft that closely, so I would
Speaker 1: be going out of my lane if I started breaking
Speaker 1: down the draft right here. I cover all thirty teams,
Speaker 1: but really at the major league level, So I'm going
Speaker 1: to pass on this question out of ignorance.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 3: See, that's what makes you good at what you do
Speaker 3: because you do know when not to speak when you're uninformed,
Speaker 3: and I love that about you, Ken Rosenthal, all right,
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Speaker 1: We do. It's Yankees Dodgers, so I'd have to say
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Speaker 3: to the week Jordan Walker?
Speaker 1: And I encourage everyone to read the fabulous story by
Speaker 1: Katie Woo today in The Athletic on the home run
Speaker 1: derby champion a year ago. Jordan Walker was reworking his
Speaker 1: swing while on a double a rehabilitation assignment. And I
Speaker 1: love it. You know this a lot because I talk
Speaker 1: about it a lot. I love it when guys who
Speaker 1: were down find a way to get up again, and
Speaker 1: he certainly did that and terrific performance. Of course in
Speaker 1: the derby were the all star Jordan Walker due to
Speaker 1: the week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was making one hundred eight hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 3: this year, Ken, is his salary that one night, that
Speaker 3: right swing a million. His mom and dad were there
Speaker 3: cheering him on. His lovely girlfriend was walking down the
Speaker 3: red carpet with them. So awesome opportunity for Jordan Walker.
Speaker 2: Well done.
Speaker 3: All right, my dude of the week are five kids,
Speaker 3: and they are kids to me. But in twenty nineteen, Ken,
Speaker 3: I took a photo. Happened to just snap a photo
Speaker 3: of these five young men. The Dodgers were playing the
Speaker 3: Phillies at Citizens Bank Park and you see in this
Speaker 3: photo both of the Ebel boys, Trey and Brady Ebel,
Speaker 3: and you also see Jacob Lombard as well as George
Speaker 3: Lombard Junior. And right in the middle is Cole Roberts
Speaker 3: Dave and Trisha Robert's son. Well, these kids have basically
Speaker 3: grown up at the ballpark. I snapped this photo of
Speaker 3: these guys. All five of them have been drafted into
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball at some level or another, or drafted
Speaker 3: into pro ball. I should say both Ebel boys Dino
Speaker 3: Ebel's son, the third base coach of the Los Angeles Dodgers.
Speaker 3: They've been drafted by the Brewers organization. George Lombard Junior
Speaker 3: was drafted by the Yankees organization, and Jacob Lombard was
Speaker 3: just drafted as the four fourteenth pick in the first
Speaker 3: round to the Miami Marlins organization. That is his hometown team.
Speaker 3: And now Cole Roberts is the bench coach for Single
Speaker 3: A in the Tigers organization.
Speaker 2: So it's just great to see these.
Speaker 3: Young I mean, they were kids and now they've all
Speaker 3: been drafted or have some level of you know, going
Speaker 3: ons with with pro ball. So congratulations to all five
Speaker 3: of those young men. All right, time now for the
Speaker 3: dork of the week. Okay, Ken, who's your dork?
Speaker 1: All right, Alana, I'm going to start off with a qualifier,
Speaker 1: and the qualifier is this, I have mispronounced names on
Speaker 1: national television. I have mispronounced names on this network's the
Speaker 1: foul Territory Network. So I understand that that can happen,
Speaker 1: and you have to give a little bit of grace.
Speaker 1: I know people don't want to give grace at times
Speaker 1: like that, but in general, I would say grace is
Speaker 1: not a bad thing to do with mispronunciations. That said,
Speaker 1: when Rob Manfred, the Commissioner of Baseball, mispronounced the number
Speaker 1: one pick in the Giraft's name on national television, it
Speaker 1: was not a great look. And that's why Rob Manfred
Speaker 1: is going to be the dork of the week. It's Rockchulowski,
Speaker 1: it's not Rock Chaluski. And it's almost a situation where
Speaker 1: you've got one job as the commissioner. In that situation,
Speaker 1: you've got one job instack at the names, right. It's
Speaker 1: actually the one job we all have at all times,
Speaker 1: and none of us really should ever get any name wrong,
Speaker 1: but it does happen. That said, that was a bad
Speaker 1: time for it to happen. I get it, it can happen.
Speaker 1: But Rob Manfred dork of the week for that reason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely understand that that is your one job.
Speaker 3: You are the commissioner of the league. He's been the
Speaker 3: one to one for at least a year. We've known
Speaker 3: about that. I've done it too, though. I remember calling
Speaker 3: Mark to share a Mark Texi era. I remember calling
Speaker 3: Michael could die or Mike Kudgier. I mean, I've I've
Speaker 3: done my fair share of mispronunciations as well.
Speaker 2: All Right, my.
Speaker 3: Dork of the week is Mike Tyson, and I can't
Speaker 3: even describe why.
Speaker 2: I will let him describe.
Speaker 1: Why show he could not be here tonight.
Speaker 5: He sends his gratitude and appreciation at ESPN and everyone
Speaker 5: who voted for him.
Speaker 3: Show Mike Tyson, please don't ever change show Hey Otani. Ken,
Speaker 3: Mike Tyson did not know who Show Hey Otani was.
Speaker 3: He called him Atani, which is fine again name mispronunciation.
Speaker 3: But then he looked at uh was it John Paul
Speaker 3: or Jake Paul or whatever, say, I don't know who
Speaker 3: that guy is, and said, oh, Show he's a guy.
Speaker 2: You didn't know that show Hey Otani was a man? Ken,
Speaker 2: How do you not know show he's a man? I'm
Speaker 2: so confused.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're delivered in your own world.
Speaker 2: He's the guy. He's the guy.
Speaker 3: All right, guys, that's it for us here at foul
Speaker 3: Territory or fair territory rather with Ken Rosenthal.
Speaker 2: Foul Territory is back. It is coming up next.
Speaker 3: Eric Kratz, Kevin Polar, Scott Braund, Robert Murray and James
Speaker 3: began join and don't forget Ken is back on Monday.
Speaker 3: Have a great weekend, everybody