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Speaker 3: that's my game. Yeah. Training camps are underway.
Speaker 1: They're already starting to get reports on various notable news items.
Speaker 3: I got ten of them for you. At this stage.
Speaker 1: I always think you have to be careful about not overreacting.
Speaker 3: That anything, So you know, I'm right, So that maybe
Speaker 3: this is the lie Detector.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'd like it like that down Lie Detector episode
Speaker 1: of Fantasy Football Weekly. I'm gonna give you ten different stories.
Speaker 3: Tell me whether or not you're sort.
Speaker 1: Of buying in, you moving any rankings, or you're just
Speaker 1: playing it, playing it chill for right now.
Speaker 3: I want to begin here.
Speaker 1: Chargers last year's first rounder Quentin Johnston still getting second
Speaker 1: team reps and appears to have been already passed by
Speaker 1: rookie Lad McConkey. And then Josh Palmer, who had been
Speaker 1: with the team he's working with the first team. And
Speaker 1: then dj Hark, the free agent nobody talking about going
Speaker 1: off the border like wide receiver ninety also running with
Speaker 1: the first team right now. So your thoughts on Quinton Johnston.
Speaker 1: And you know, in one of my Empire leagues, I've
Speaker 1: got Quinton Johnston that I drafted last year and I'm
Speaker 1: basically ready. I'm in the same world too, you know,
Speaker 1: like this is it looks bad right now. And there
Speaker 1: were videos that circulated mid week of him just dropping
Speaker 1: like a seven yard pass right the bread pasket come on.
Speaker 3: So everything that comes out of the Chargers on social
Speaker 3: media or or like the hardcore Chargers fan sites, yeah,
Speaker 3: they're saying that Quentin Johnston is on fire, but that
Speaker 3: is a lie. Everyone else is saying that he can't
Speaker 3: catch a ball. There was one reporter who said he's
Speaker 3: the worst effing receiver I've ever seen in my life. Wow. Wow,
Speaker 3: So I've seen, but I've seen multiple Twitter accounts that
Speaker 3: are that are following it closer than I am, saying
Speaker 3: that unless his body is completely turned back to face
Speaker 3: the quarterback, he can't catch anything. He can't catch anything deep,
Speaker 3: ye can't catch any shoulder. And so there's plenty of
Speaker 3: video that backs that up. If you do a quick
Speaker 3: Quenton Johnston video search on x there's more positive reports
Speaker 3: and videos from camp about seventh round rookie wide receiver
Speaker 3: Brendan Rice, who, by the way, is the son of
Speaker 3: Jerry Rice.
Speaker 1: Oh, I guess I did not know that that was
Speaker 1: the case, so I should have a little there's a
Speaker 1: little pedigree there. But right now the way that things
Speaker 1: like sound, it sounds like Brendan Rice is creeping above
Speaker 1: Quenton Johnston on the depth chart too. So I have
Speaker 1: Johnson in a few dynasty leagues. I'm hoping that he
Speaker 1: turns it around, but I think he's undraftable in redraft
Speaker 1: leagues and I'd probably be bailing in most of my
Speaker 1: dynasty shares too. All right, so the lie detector here
Speaker 1: is true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true. It's true. Okay, it's true because the
Speaker 3: Chargers aren't putting out this information.
Speaker 1: Right right, here's the ADP for the Chargers receivers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Palmer's going first wide receiver thirty one. That seems pretty
Speaker 1: high for a guy who's never been able to really
Speaker 1: put it all together. And I don't mind Palmer. A
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, I was touting him in the
Speaker 1: preseason as a sleeper and everyone came together. Lad McConkie
Speaker 1: ADP wide receiver forty three. Yeah, couldn't he just vault
Speaker 1: right to the top of this productive receiver at Georgia
Speaker 1: so slippery I'm open.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna note this on some of the other ones.
Speaker 3: Like an average wide receiver Room gets about two hundred
Speaker 3: receptions per year. That's a lot of wide receiver receptions there.
Speaker 3: There might be it might be a little bit lower
Speaker 3: in Los Angeles, right, yes, just because yeah, but they
Speaker 3: have justin air Bear there, and air Bear ain't scared,
Speaker 3: no God. So I think that Lad McConkie, Josh Palmer,
Speaker 3: even DJ Chark, they're going to catch some balls. This year.
Speaker 3: They're not going to be in a lot of people's
Speaker 3: lineups every week, but one one definitely could emerge.
Speaker 1: My money would be somebody's going to right, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, they're going to run a lot, maybe
Speaker 1: the most in the league. Yeah, but still somebody's going
Speaker 1: to come out of this is fantasy viable. That's the
Speaker 1: week out. Let's go to Green Bay. Romeo Dobbs getting
Speaker 1: praised from coaches and teammates. Offensive coordinator Adam Stenovich said
Speaker 1: Monday that Dobbs has super strong hands and is tremendous
Speaker 1: at running routes. A few days ago, you may have
Speaker 1: seen this, Hackers cornerback jay Or Alexander said Dobbs is
Speaker 1: a second favorite receiver in the league, after only Devonte Adams. Wow,
Speaker 1: and you know, you don't often see teammates put a
Speaker 1: pecking order on their other teammates, you know.
Speaker 3: Well, and a former teammate at that, Well.
Speaker 1: Sure, yes, I mean, so he knows Adams. That's fine,
Speaker 1: you know, Okay, I understand why you go to Adams
Speaker 1: going to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: Sure, so no problem with that.
Speaker 1: But the fact that he identified Dobbs out of this
Speaker 1: four man conundrum, that fantasy players have at wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Does that carry a lot of weight for you or
Speaker 1: any weight for you?
Speaker 3: And the envelope says that is a lie. That is
Speaker 3: a lie, okay, because I think they're going to do
Speaker 3: the same thing with Jaden Reid, with Dantavian Wicks and
Speaker 3: with Christian Watson in subsequent weeks coming up. You like Dobbs.
Speaker 3: I like Dobbs. I drafted him in the Scott Fish Bowl.
Speaker 3: I like him a lot. The problem is everyone likes
Speaker 3: Jayden Reid too, a lot of people like Dantavian Wicks,
Speaker 3: and even quite a few people still like Christian Watson.
Speaker 3: And all three of those names finished with more PPR
Speaker 3: points per game in the last half of the season
Speaker 3: for the Packers than Dobbs did. He was number four
Speaker 3: in that pecking order in fact, from Week five on.
Speaker 3: So that's thirteen games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a healthy sample size and all the good games.
Speaker 1: Yet all the good games Jordan Love had.
Speaker 3: Dobbs topped four receptions in a game only once, and
Speaker 3: he had more than forty yards in a game only
Speaker 3: three times. You're so dependent on him getting a touchdown
Speaker 3: that it doesn't make any sense for me to get
Speaker 3: any of these wide receivers on the Packers because Dobbs
Speaker 3: led the team in PPR points in five games last season,
Speaker 3: Read seven times, Watson three times, Wis twice, and I
Speaker 3: think Wix is probably gonna pop up a little bit
Speaker 3: more this year. If it's me, I'd like to draft
Speaker 3: Jordan Love and just just look with it.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what That's what I've been saying too.
Speaker 1: Although it's a little spineless, I like it. It's a
Speaker 1: little spineless, but it is true.
Speaker 3: It can be spineless. It's because they have four good
Speaker 3: wide receivers. It's not because Dobbs is worse than any
Speaker 3: of them. It's because they have four really quality wide
Speaker 3: receivers on roster. I like that.
Speaker 1: And I think the angle on these, on all of
Speaker 1: these receivers for Green Bay is I.
Speaker 3: Want him in best ball right.
Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about identifying pre identifying the
Speaker 1: games when one of them is gonna go off. So
Speaker 1: that's that's the angle for me. Like Guillotine can't do Dobbs, Read, Wix,
Speaker 1: Watson just way too much downside on a game to
Speaker 1: game basis because there's just there's too many good receivers.
Speaker 3: So once you get three catches for thirty five yards,
Speaker 3: you're sunk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's going to really hurt your chances.
Speaker 3: And that's very possible.
Speaker 1: All right, So we've got a truth, we've got a lie.
Speaker 3: Let's go to Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Rashad Bateman getting tons of praise from John Harbaugh and
Speaker 1: Baltimore Beat writers. Early in the week, he made an
Speaker 1: acrobatic shoelace catch that wowed observers.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Harbaugh says that Bateman is expected to be a top
Speaker 1: receiver in the league.
Speaker 3: Quote, top receiver in the.
Speaker 1: League currently going off the board it wide receiver seventy nine.
Speaker 3: Is this just camp talk? Survey says, Yeah, that's just
Speaker 3: can't talk. Okay, what does anybody really expect Rashad Bateman
Speaker 3: to be on this team? Is he the top wide
Speaker 3: receiver option on this team? No, say Flowers? Is he
Speaker 3: the second receiving option on this team? No? Mark Andrews
Speaker 3: is in there, right? He could be third in the
Speaker 3: pecking order at best on a team that just signed
Speaker 3: Derrick Henry and is about to run the ball down
Speaker 3: the throat of everybody all year long. And by the way,
Speaker 3: if you can't make acrobatic shoelace catches in practice without pads,
Speaker 3: you probably shouldn't be in the NFL at all.
Speaker 1: Well, apparently Bateman hadn't been doing that in the past.
Speaker 1: Everybody thinks he looks better than at any previous time.
Speaker 3: Well, and also, if he's making acrobatic catches, doesn't that
Speaker 3: say more about Lamar Jackson's accuracy.
Speaker 1: Well, some of those balls are probably not coming from
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, but maybe and I here's the thing. Wide
Speaker 1: receiver seventy nine.
Speaker 3: Sure, sure, that's where he is expected to be a
Speaker 3: top receiver in the league. That's that's insanity. Let's move
Speaker 3: to New England.
Speaker 1: A thor Nystrom favorite, Javon Baker has been a standout
Speaker 1: in camp with highlight reel plays. Nobody mentioning athletic shoelace catches.
Speaker 3: No just highlight just highlight reel.
Speaker 1: He could start, He could start early in the season,
Speaker 1: needing only to beat out Jalen Rager, Taekwon Thornton, and
Speaker 1: the undead remains of Juju Smith Schuster. The second rounder
Speaker 1: Jalen Polk is garnered praise too, but not at the
Speaker 1: same level as Baker and Thoris set up.
Speaker 3: Thoris said at least twice.
Speaker 1: In our offseason shows he thinks he thinks Baker is
Speaker 1: going to be better than Polk. Sure, his ADP is
Speaker 1: wide receiver eighty eight.
Speaker 3: That's slow.
Speaker 1: All right, what's the light detector say on this one
Speaker 1: for Javon Baker?
Speaker 3: Well, you failed to mention Kendrick Bourne and de Mario Douglas,
Speaker 3: who are well, I'm assuming their top two. So this
Speaker 3: is receiver to three. That's right, Nott wide receiver one.
Speaker 3: So I think this one's interesting and a little sneaky.
Speaker 3: All those other names that you read are retreads of retreads.
Speaker 3: I mean, these guys have been on their third fourth
Speaker 3: team in the league. It's feasible that Baker could steal
Speaker 3: a lot of snaps from those vets really quickly, or
Speaker 3: you know, Juju could get cut. And I mean it's
Speaker 3: not outlandish to think Jalen Rager will be cut from
Speaker 3: another team. In the NFL, the Pats managed about ten
Speaker 3: receptions per game to the wide receiver position last year.
Speaker 3: It was one of the lowest marks in the league. Wow,
Speaker 3: that's terrible, But that was Mac Jones and Bailey Zappi
Speaker 3: and Bill Belichick's weird offense. Uh. Even if it's Jacoby
Speaker 3: Brissett for most of the year, or we see some
Speaker 3: Drake May or Joe Milton who ever evidently is outperforming
Speaker 3: Drake May in camp right now.
Speaker 1: That's but then Drake May had a much better day
Speaker 1: on Wednesday and give you know, yeah, you don't know.
Speaker 3: You think they have to pass a little bit more
Speaker 3: than ten times two receivers receivers per game, so I
Speaker 3: think that they're nine times, no more more more more
Speaker 3: than nine times and more than ten times. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: don't worry. I got it nine times for you. Okay,
Speaker 3: I got one fire fantastic, But yeah, I think that
Speaker 3: I think that there is some truth to this one
Speaker 3: on a rookie popping up and maybe stealing some reps
Speaker 3: on a third team scenario.
Speaker 1: Thor loves Javon Baker's big play ability and the and
Speaker 1: him with the ball in his hands young after catch
Speaker 1: just sick.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: He he transferred. He started at Alabama, then he moved
Speaker 1: to Central Florida where he just dominated Slapp.
Speaker 3: He's there, so.
Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be, you know, I think there is
Speaker 1: a nice opportunity. Why'd receive for eighty eight?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, again at that stage sure, last.
Speaker 3: Pick in your draft, right, I'll these are the kind
Speaker 3: I mean Thor uncovered Puka Nakula last year. Yes, he
Speaker 3: did in this kind of realm. And I don't think
Speaker 3: Thor was promising.
Speaker 1: He did not promise a historic rookie season.
Speaker 3: Yes, but but obviously, like opportunity was there for Puka,
Speaker 3: the talent is there. I think we're in kind of
Speaker 3: the same situation here, staying in New England.
Speaker 1: Ramandre Stevenson, I'm back on board, baby. Oh wait, sorry,
Speaker 1: the truth the truth the light detector was true on
Speaker 1: Javon Baby true. Okay, so we've got two truths and
Speaker 1: two lives. Ramandre Stevenson says that his new offensive corner
Speaker 1: alex Van Pelts outside zone blocking scheme is perfect for him.
Speaker 1: Here's the quote from Stevenson. Outside zone you see everything
Speaker 1: a lot better. The old line still has to work very,
Speaker 1: very hard, and you have to be on your tracks.
Speaker 1: But it's kind of you hit what you see, you
Speaker 1: make your cut and when you think you're ready, it's
Speaker 1: ultimately up to you. So Matt, it's up to you.
Speaker 1: Is the does a light detector say this is true
Speaker 1: or false? For this new zone blocking scheme that may
Speaker 1: be a perfect fit for Remandre Stevenson.
Speaker 3: I mean, first off, it's exciting for both of us,
Speaker 3: who are both big Remandre fans. Over the last few years,
Speaker 3: we've been on the bandwagon to hear things may improving.
Speaker 3: I've already invested in him the end of the fifth
Speaker 3: round in scott Fish Bowl in that draft beautiful spot.
Speaker 3: I like him there, and he could be an absolute
Speaker 3: belcow this year with Antonio Gibson serving as the passing
Speaker 3: down guy being the Antonio Gibson.
Speaker 1: Role, right, and Jamichael Hasty's no threat.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The problem is for me, when an offensive line
Speaker 3: is given a completely new scheme and completely new tactics,
Speaker 3: it usually takes a little time to get that right. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and the Patriots already have Pro Football focuses twenty eighth
Speaker 3: ranked offensive line. So while it's great that Remandre Stevenson
Speaker 3: is super positive about this, he's got to be lying
Speaker 3: to us because he's got to know I don't have
Speaker 3: this kind of offensive line and they're trying to change things.
Speaker 3: And I'm trying to tow the company line here and
Speaker 3: say I love it. It's great, but I'm a little
Speaker 3: nervous here that things might not go as well as
Speaker 3: he's he's kind of alluding to here, I want to believe.
Speaker 3: I want to believe to current ADP is running back nineteen. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean that's the greatest spot.
Speaker 1: Do the opposite this perfect, do the opposite territory. You've
Speaker 1: gone first four rounds. You haven't done any running backs.
Speaker 1: I love having Remondre as my top running back. There
Speaker 1: you raise a great point. New blocking schemes take time
Speaker 1: to gel, and it could be a rough first month
Speaker 1: for Romandre and warning guillotine League people, that could be
Speaker 1: something that gets you cut in the first month.
Speaker 3: But remember Ramondre's.
Speaker 1: One year removed from being a top ten fantasy runner,
Speaker 1: and last year, early in the year he struggled. The
Speaker 1: offensive was terrible, nobody respected the passing game. Somebody's just
Speaker 1: playing to stop Ormandri. But he's still in weeks nine
Speaker 1: through thirteen. There was this window of like a month
Speaker 1: where he was really good and then he suffered a
Speaker 1: heikel spring the season.
Speaker 3: Was over well, and Zeke didn't fare too badly in
Speaker 3: that offense last year either, So there's promise here. But
Speaker 3: new blocking scheme, yeah, weird offensive line already. If the
Speaker 3: not sure, I'm feeling it.
Speaker 1: If the totality of this Patriots offense is going to
Speaker 1: generate twelve rushing touchdowns, which is very low. This ranked
Speaker 1: them like twenty eighth or something. Right, Romander's getting ten
Speaker 1: to the twelve correct, So you know, I think he's
Speaker 1: sitting on a double digit touchdown season.
Speaker 3: Yep. I'd like to have him for the home stretch
Speaker 3: in most leagues. If if like we think it might
Speaker 3: be a little bit of a slow start for him,
Speaker 3: He's a perfect guy to try to acquire the end
Speaker 3: of September. Let's take a break.
Speaker 1: When we come back, I've got five more discussion topics
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Speaker 1: Yeah, fantastic. All right, let's go to Chicago. DJ Moore
Speaker 1: signed that massive, four year, one hundred and ten million
Speaker 1: dollar extension. I just want to talk about the dynasty
Speaker 1: and Empire implications for just a minute. Okay, so longer,
Speaker 1: longer term and by the way, for those that don't know,
Speaker 1: since we got a minute, Empire leagues so much fun.
Speaker 1: I think it's the best way to play dynasty. The
Speaker 1: premise goes like this, it's a dynasty league, so you
Speaker 1: retain your entire retain your entire roster year to year,
Speaker 1: and instead of paying out all the funds at the
Speaker 1: end of one year, instead you only pay out half.
Speaker 1: The other half goes into a rolling pot waiting for
Speaker 1: somebody to win back to back years, and then the
Speaker 1: league folds.
Speaker 3: It's over.
Speaker 1: That person collects all the money and the league's over.
Speaker 1: I love this because fantasy leagues don't have a don't
Speaker 1: ever have an end. Yeah, there's no true champion, there's
Speaker 1: just the most recent champion. Empire leagues give you a
Speaker 1: championship and man, you know when you win it, and
Speaker 1: the whole.
Speaker 3: Rest of the league.
Speaker 1: When you win one year, the whole less rust legal
Speaker 1: next year is on you. You know, you are the
Speaker 1: villain and that's awesome. Yeah, and I love that. And
Speaker 1: then when you even if you if you don't win,
Speaker 1: everybody's got.
Speaker 3: Something gun for.
Speaker 1: We're all gunn into takedown Matt to make sure Matt
Speaker 1: doesn't win two back to back years.
Speaker 3: One in our long running one. Christian Peterson is currently
Speaker 3: the champion in that one. And uh, it's over ten
Speaker 3: grand in the Empire Pot this year.
Speaker 1: And poor Christian who has won three times in the
Speaker 1: last five years, but he's alternated it's every other year.
Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, he's got he's got a tough roster this year.
Speaker 3: So you kind of have to prop up some other
Speaker 3: teams to beat that chime as well to help Tope. Oh,
Speaker 3: we never do that though.
Speaker 1: Nobody's like, oh, you know, I got to prop up
Speaker 1: some I gotta improve, I gotta make a bad trade,
Speaker 1: I do you do You've made bad trade?
Speaker 3: No, I've made I've made trades that help teams eliminate
Speaker 3: the current champ. It doesn't necessarily have to be a
Speaker 3: bad trade, but you got it. You gotta send good,
Speaker 3: good players out to and to the the current contenders
Speaker 3: and get some good draft picks back.
Speaker 1: So if you think Caleb Williams is the quarterback of
Speaker 1: the future for Chicago this you know, the re signing
Speaker 1: of DJ Moore extension is great news. I mean that
Speaker 1: puts him on the team. He's on the team, signed
Speaker 1: through twenty twenty nine. Yeah, now, and I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes the final years of these things are,
Speaker 1: you know, not real years. But still, I mean that's
Speaker 1: as a long time.
Speaker 3: There was over eighty million dollars and guaranteed money too,
Speaker 3: so it was It's a pretty big deal. Maybe it's
Speaker 3: just me, but I've always kind of been a DJ
Speaker 3: more doubter. I don't know why. He did score nine
Speaker 3: times last year times nine and had Yeah, and it
Speaker 3: was his quarterback justin fields in that sense, had ninety
Speaker 3: six catches and over thirteen hundred yards. But he was
Speaker 3: the only receiver in town last year. The Bears only
Speaker 3: had one hundred and fifty eight wide receiver receptions last
Speaker 3: year and DJ Moore got ninety six of them, So
Speaker 3: more crowded.
Speaker 1: Now, obviously you'rean and Allen Roma Dunsay exactly know that
Speaker 1: how many targets are going to go to DJ Moore.
Speaker 3: Well, and let's break that down. Let's say Caleb Williams
Speaker 3: is much better, yeah, and as probable as a passer,
Speaker 3: and we bump that Bears wide receiver catch total up
Speaker 3: to two hundred and ten, which is a little bit
Speaker 3: above average. That's so fifty two more receptions to wide receivers.
Speaker 3: If you're going to believe that DJ Moore will get
Speaker 3: ninety six receptions again, that would leave one hundred and
Speaker 3: fourteen for the other ones. In the last seven seasons
Speaker 3: where Keenan Allen has played thirteen or more games, he's
Speaker 3: had at least ninety seven receptions in every game in
Speaker 3: every season. Sorry, yep, So does that leave twenty one
Speaker 3: receptions for Romo Odounza and the rest of the wide receivers.
Speaker 3: It it's got to be more of a split. I
Speaker 3: can't see a scenario where DJ Moore is far and
Speaker 3: away the receptions leader on this team over Keenan Allen
Speaker 3: and Romo Donsey. I think will be third in the
Speaker 3: pecking order. But he's not getting twenty receptions this year.
Speaker 1: He's gonna get six seventy. Yeah, probably, So Dunes might
Speaker 1: be great.
Speaker 3: Keenan Allen could be.
Speaker 1: The odd man out. I mean, why what a huge,
Speaker 1: very variance. Yeah, there is potentially coming for Keenan Allen.
Speaker 1: It could be that in his whatever eleventh season, uh,
Speaker 1: that Keenan Allen is basically cooked and that he's going
Speaker 1: to drop Roman Dunesday's going to pass him in terms
Speaker 1: of you know, in just in terms of the focal
Speaker 1: point of the offense, and that Keenan Allen just doesn't
Speaker 1: get the ball lot or he's just a vacuum who
Speaker 1: brings in everything the rookie received. He's always gonna be
Speaker 1: in the right spot, he's gonna catch everything that goes
Speaker 1: to him.
Speaker 3: Usually plays from the slot often.
Speaker 1: And that he could end up vacuuming up ninety receptions
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it it's a little tough for me. I know,
Speaker 3: DJ Moore, where's he going in in ADP right now?
Speaker 3: It's like twenty wide receiver twenty Okay, I thought it
Speaker 3: was higher than that. But yeah, there's no truth or
Speaker 3: lie here because it's just we're saying that he signed
Speaker 3: an extension, correct, So that's the truth that he did sign. Okay, Well,
Speaker 3: we'll take truth on this. That brings us to three
Speaker 3: truths and three lives. So but I'm a little hesitant
Speaker 3: to think that he can repeat the numbers that he
Speaker 3: had from last year. Being the only showing down. Let's
Speaker 3: go to Carolina.
Speaker 1: Miles Sanders getting a ton of first team looks in
Speaker 1: Carolina m H. Now, as you know, rookie Jonathan Brook's
Speaker 1: fourth rounder is rehabbing from an ACL injury that goes
Speaker 1: back to November of last year's He is not expected
Speaker 1: to be ready at the start of the season, and
Speaker 1: he's not going to be a factor here. Miles Sanders
Speaker 1: potentially could be your opening day starter again.
Speaker 3: This year like he was last year. But last year
Speaker 3: he was terrible.
Speaker 1: He averaged three point three yards per carry, granted running
Speaker 1: behind a bad offensive line that did get better in
Speaker 1: the offseason, and ultimately Sanders lost his job to the
Speaker 1: very pedestrian Chewba Hubbard, who was much better than Miles he.
Speaker 3: Was better, at least somewhat better. Yeah, so if he's
Speaker 3: if he's very pedestrian and much better than Miles Sanders,
Speaker 3: what does that make Miles Sanders? He had one touchdown
Speaker 3: last year? Oh, what a disaster one. And I think
Speaker 3: that most people coming into that season thought, hey, rookie quarterback,
Speaker 3: they're gonna just hand Miles Sanders the ball ton. He's
Speaker 3: gonna have ye close to three fifty four hundred touches.
Speaker 3: Maybe he could just be an absolute belkow.
Speaker 1: And they signed him to that big deal he's like
Speaker 1: twenty four million or something, and then he was just horrible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was just bad.
Speaker 1: So and by the way, Shure mentioned one you removed
Speaker 1: from thirteen hundred yards and eleven touchdowns with Philadelphia exactly.
Speaker 3: So doesn't it seem like maybe he's getting first team
Speaker 3: looks to see if a he still has some value
Speaker 3: when playing with the starters, because he'd probably look like
Speaker 3: absolute trash behind the second or third stringers. It could
Speaker 3: be or be to maybe feature him as some sort
Speaker 3: of trade chips so they can get out of paying
Speaker 3: him four million dollars.
Speaker 1: Maybe his deal is guaranteed for four million, So I
Speaker 1: don't think anybody trade anything for him.
Speaker 3: There's got to be a couple of teams out there
Speaker 3: that are running back needy in some way. Maybe it's
Speaker 3: just a seventh round pick swap kind of a thing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and just to get out of the four million dollars.
Speaker 3: But this has got to be a lie. There's no
Speaker 3: way that they think that Miles Sanders is going to
Speaker 3: be the answer running back for the Panthers.
Speaker 1: So we're taking a we're gonna lie. Yeah, lie, detector says,
Speaker 1: lie in Miles Sanders next Minnesota. JJ McCarthy is look
Speaker 1: good in early training camp. To me, the Reds are
Speaker 1: a little slow, but the arm talent to me looks good.
Speaker 3: So am I saying if you're lying or telling the truth?
Speaker 1: Almost universally the repoorts you guys know me it's all lies.
Speaker 3: Is that he's looked good in training camp.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think his reads are slow, but he's showing
Speaker 1: arm talent. Sam Donald's continuing to get almost all the
Speaker 1: first team reps, but Kevin O'Connell says that they'll get
Speaker 1: they'll start working JJ into more first team reps later.
Speaker 1: So true or false? Do you think that McCarthy's look
Speaker 1: good enough? Here to change the overwhelming thinking, which is
Speaker 1: that Sam Donald's gonna have a long runway and they
Speaker 1: do not want to start JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 3: I guess that's a lie. I think Sam Donald's still
Speaker 3: gonna start. I think Donald will almost certainly start the
Speaker 3: year under center. But I think that he needs to
Speaker 3: go at least two and three or three and two
Speaker 3: in those first five games to keep the job after
Speaker 3: the Week six by which means he'd need to beat
Speaker 3: the Giants, Niners, Texans, Packers, and Jets. That Jets game
Speaker 3: is in London. He'd have to win that Jets game.
Speaker 3: So I think he needs to win the Giants and
Speaker 3: the Jets games in order to hold the job. Then
Speaker 3: they come back after a bye. If he survives through
Speaker 3: the bye, he'll almost certainly get the next two games
Speaker 3: because Week seven is against Detroit and then they play
Speaker 3: immediately Thursday night in Week eight, so they won't install
Speaker 3: quarterback in a short week.
Speaker 1: So it'll either happen at the bye or well after it.
Speaker 3: Yes, it'll I think it'll either happen after the bye
Speaker 3: or after the Week eight game on Thursday night against.
Speaker 1: Them, we'd have ten days to ramp up.
Speaker 3: YEP. So Kevin O'Connell has said they'll know when it's
Speaker 3: time to start McCarthy. If they're one and four under Donald,
Speaker 3: it will be time.
Speaker 1: I don't know the wins and losses are going to
Speaker 1: be as important as you you think. I believe they're
Speaker 1: really taking a long term view with a twenty one
Speaker 1: year old that says we're not putting him in the
Speaker 1: game until he's ready. Even if Donald's bad, I think
Speaker 1: they could go to Nick Mullins. If JJ's not ready
Speaker 1: and Sam's bad, it could be bombs away Nick Mullins,
Speaker 1: just like it was in the second half of last year.
Speaker 1: And you know, let Mullins throw for four hundred yards
Speaker 1: one game and then four interceptions the next game.
Speaker 3: I think the thing is, and this is coming from
Speaker 3: a Viking fan, and I know you're a Viking fan
Speaker 3: as well, charged I think their defense is going to
Speaker 3: be kind of sneaky good. And I think if the
Speaker 3: defense is holding up their end of the bargain and
Speaker 3: they're holding some of these high end opponents to seventeen
Speaker 3: or twenty points a game, yeah, and Donald in the
Speaker 3: offense is just floundering and they can't get JJ going,
Speaker 3: and Aaron Jones, isn't isn't cutting it enough. I think
Speaker 3: that they're going to try to make a change, especially
Speaker 3: if the if Brian flores his defense looks like it's
Speaker 3: holding up there end of the bargain and it looks
Speaker 3: like it's an offensive problem, They're going to make a
Speaker 3: switch at quarterback.
Speaker 1: All Right, You and I see it a little bit differently,
Speaker 1: but I think we both The central premise of our
Speaker 1: lie detector is JJ McCarthy's look good in training camp.
Speaker 3: I think that's mostly true. I think I think that
Speaker 3: part's true. I think I think Donald starts.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Arizona. Rookie running back Trey Benton getting
Speaker 1: third team reps behind James Connor and Amari Day Mercado charge.
Speaker 3: This is called hazing, and Arizona is one of the
Speaker 3: forty four states where hazing is illegal. Illegal, Okay. Hazing
Speaker 3: has three components.
Speaker 1: By the way, I didn't know it's an official yep.
Speaker 3: It's in a group. It involves humiliating, degrading, or endangering behavior,
Speaker 3: and it happens regardless of consent. And Trey Benson is
Speaker 3: on the team, he's not consenting to running the third teamers,
Speaker 3: which is humiliating and dangerous. Yes, so this is hazing,
Speaker 3: This is a lie. There's no way Imari de Marcado
Speaker 3: is going to hold off Trey Benson here from at
Speaker 3: least being the second option out of the backfield. I
Speaker 3: do think James Connor probably still gets the bulk of
Speaker 3: the running this year, but particularly early. I think Trey
Speaker 3: Benson as as the year wears on and James Connor
Speaker 3: has quite a bit of an injury history. He does
Speaker 3: if if Trey Benson is available on your waiver wire
Speaker 3: and James Connor goes down, that's gonna be one of
Speaker 3: those situations where people are spending sixty seventy percent of
Speaker 3: their fab to get.
Speaker 1: I love Trey Benson in college. I felt like he
Speaker 1: had on a very weak rookie class, and we've talked
Speaker 1: about this on our rookie shows in the past. This offseason,
Speaker 1: I thought Trey Benson looks like he's the best built
Speaker 1: for fantasy success inside runner, goal line guy. He's got
Speaker 1: a lot of wiggle and some bursts, and there's a
Speaker 1: lot to like about Trey Benson. But James Connor ran
Speaker 1: well last year. Just the reality is he played well
Speaker 1: and he's going to start the season. Coaches love to
Speaker 1: go as sure things and guys that aren't going to
Speaker 1: mess up pass protection and other things. So James Connor is.
Speaker 3: Going to be the guy. I hope you're right that
Speaker 3: this is a lie.
Speaker 1: On We're not out there scrapping for a Mari de
Speaker 1: Mercado after week one when he surprises us with twelve touches.
Speaker 3: No, I'll be disappointed. Yeah, all right, last one. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons offensive coordinator Zach Robinson said Tuesday that Bejon
Speaker 1: Robinson's backfield mate Tyler al Jeer, will have quote a
Speaker 1: big role and be leaned on at certain points during
Speaker 1: the season, certain points like if that's like one game, fine,
Speaker 1: might worry is certain points of the season might be
Speaker 1: like the second, third, and fourth quarters of games.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean this is this thing may be much more
Speaker 1: of a shared backfield than we want to think. Do
Speaker 1: you believe this is a truth or a lie?
Speaker 3: Coach talk? Let's start with Tyler Algier is a good
Speaker 3: running back. He's not bad. He's he's a good running back,
Speaker 3: and I think he will have a pretty nice role
Speaker 3: this year. I don't think Zach Robinson's lying. I think
Speaker 3: that's the truth. It's going to paint a lot of
Speaker 3: fantasy owners who are drafting Bijeon in the first round yep.
Speaker 3: But there's also saying that is we use it in
Speaker 3: sports all the time. Rest is a weapon. Putting Bijon
Speaker 3: on four hundred carries or four hundred touches is not
Speaker 3: a good way, and that's not to do anything four hundred.
Speaker 3: If the Falcons want to be title contenders, and it
Speaker 3: seemed like they might, they'll have to feature Algier some
Speaker 3: of the time, and they're gonna have to pass more
Speaker 3: than the nineteen times per game pass attempt average. On average,
Speaker 3: I mean, Desmond Ritter was pretty bad, but I think Bijeon,
Speaker 3: who is a better pass catcher, is born there specifically.
Speaker 3: But Algier had two hundred four touches last year and
Speaker 3: Bijon had two hundred and seventy two. That's painfully close
Speaker 3: to painfully close, yes, And and really it was Bijon
Speaker 3: taking the lead on receptions. It was like sixty five
Speaker 3: to seventeen receptions. So I think people want to believe
Speaker 3: that Bijon's numbers will jump significantly here, but Algier might
Speaker 3: see more work running between the tackles than people want
Speaker 3: to admit. And Bijon might be the second and third
Speaker 3: down guy, but Algier might be the guy who's in
Speaker 3: during first downs where they want to go five yards
Speaker 3: in a cloud of dust up the middle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get the feeling it's going to be more
Speaker 1: frustrating than we want it to be so far heading
Speaker 1: into the season where I still have most of my
Speaker 1: drafts to come. Yep, I have zero rosters with Bijon Robinson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's for where he has to where you have to
Speaker 1: go to take him, like pick five. That's to me,
Speaker 1: that's just it's too early for as the settle his
Speaker 1: offense is.
Speaker 3: And and and I thought about looking this up, but
Speaker 3: I didn't. But I was trying to remember a great
Speaker 3: receiving threat in a Kirk Cousins offense. Running back, running back. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it doesn't seem like it's been overwhelming. And he's got
Speaker 3: weapons out there. Drake London and Kyle Pitt's not bad options, right,
Speaker 3: Darnel Mooney and uh oh, I'm spacing on the the
Speaker 3: other guy road kill Moore, Ron del Moore. Yes, it'll
Speaker 3: kill your Gullotem team. I can tell you that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean those guys aren't bad second and third options
Speaker 3: at the wide receiver position. So I think I think
Speaker 3: Cousins is putting the ball downfield a little more, which
Speaker 3: should open space for both of the runners.
Speaker 1: Now, the other side of it is Desmon Riders horrible.
Speaker 1: And you know, if Kirk Cousins plays anything like he
Speaker 1: played last year when he went down, he was leading
Speaker 1: the NFL in passing yards, this Atlanta offense could just
Speaker 1: explode into a top five offense.
Speaker 3: Robinson might be, could be a juggernaut. It might be.
Speaker 3: We'll find out.
Speaker 1: Thanks Matt, tons of fun we get to watch watching
Speaker 1: real football guys and pads. Yeah got you know, well
Speaker 1: quasi reel the preseason games. I mean they never meant
Speaker 1: a lot before. No, now they're even Now they're even worse,
Speaker 1: you know, all thanks to Sean McVeigh. McVeigh proved you
Speaker 1: don't have to play your starters at all in the
Speaker 1: preseason and they can just roll right into the regular
Speaker 1: season and be just fine.
Speaker 3: Well. I think one of the things that has come
Speaker 3: out of that, though, is you kind of get the
Speaker 3: in depth look at the inner squad scrimmages, Like I
Speaker 3: know the Vikings are going to Cleveland to play the
Speaker 3: Browns and some scrimmages before their preseason matches.
Speaker 1: Every I think I think every team is now scrimmaging.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at least one for business, it is, And that
Speaker 3: way you can control the reps a little bit more.
Speaker 3: Your quarterback doesn't have to get hits on them, that
Speaker 3: kind of thing. But I think we can learn a
Speaker 3: lot from kind of seeing the video on Twitter slash
Speaker 3: x about what people are doing in those in those
Speaker 3: inner squad scrimmages. I think that those are probably more
Speaker 3: important right now than any preseason action that we're gonna
Speaker 3: find from baby.
Speaker 1: So maybe so all.
Speaker 3: Sounds sad, you know, it's just the preseas. I was
Speaker 3: always preseason defender.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, you know, okay, sure, I know
Speaker 1: the elitists just you know, all tune into the regular season,
Speaker 1: and you know, but I love football, and you would
Speaker 1: get to see your starters would play in the first
Speaker 1: preseason game would play like a quarter, and then the
Speaker 1: second preseason game like two quarters, and then the dress
Speaker 1: rehearsal the third preseason one was like three quarters, and
Speaker 1: then they all took the fourth one off, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: fine that you know that, I got long looks at
Speaker 1: actual starters, and you could you could glean some things
Speaker 1: from that.
Speaker 3: We can't glean anymore.
Speaker 1: It's very hard to glean. No, we're in a total,
Speaker 1: a glean free zone. Now that's the season. And every
Speaker 1: you know who loves to glean. Everybody, everybody, especially the NFL,
Speaker 1: has they've taken our glean.
Speaker 3: It's it's weird that you've got a tattoo that just
Speaker 3: says glean across your chest.
Speaker 1: Yes for just and now now I got to cross
Speaker 1: it out.
Speaker 3: It's also also weird that you're not where a shirt
Speaker 3: right now. Peculiar, but I got to show off my tattoo.
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, thank you, Matt. This has been a
Speaker 1: ton of fun. I appreciate listening everybody. Guillotine Leagues coming
Speaker 1: online for this season really really soon, maybe by the
Speaker 1: time you hear this. I don't have an exact date,
Speaker 1: but it's coming real soon.
Speaker 3: Now. I'm excited. Thank you.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you're in Guillotine. You're playing Guillot.
Speaker 3: I sure do.
Speaker 1: I play in Keillotine Leagues. We can't wait to turn on,
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