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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. What is up, ladies and gentlemen. It's me

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Speaker 1: Jason McIntyre joined by my main man, LaVar Arrington. What's happening,

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Speaker 1: Jane Matt. Yeah, we are filling in on the Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick Show live from Los Angeles. A gorgeous Tuesday is today?

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Speaker 1: Tuesday ones Nah day, July six. I'm feeling a baby,

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Speaker 1: I am. I had a great July fourth weekend. How

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Speaker 1: about you, LaVar? How was it? Yeah? Man, it was

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Speaker 1: really good, and you know it was actually good enough

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Speaker 1: day and time it is. I mean, feeling pretty good man,

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Speaker 1: happy to be on radio. Well, I'm not used to

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Speaker 1: the NBA Finals starting this late usually right now. You know,

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Speaker 1: we just sifted through NBA free agency and we're getting

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Speaker 1: used to like, oh, NFL camps are opening up. It

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Speaker 1: now everything's pushed back, So NBA Finals start tonight. Sons

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Speaker 1: and Bucks, We'll get to your interest level at a moment.

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Speaker 1: Uh LaVar Arrygon. I will start off by asking you

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Speaker 1: other than how your summer's gone so far, as I

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Speaker 1: just got back from Hawaii, which was very cool. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was a little aggressive on the Instagram, but it

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Speaker 1: was good to be good to be on a flight

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Speaker 1: and vacation again. I'll start with this. You know, like

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Speaker 1: the NBA Finals kickoff tonight. The Suns are heavy favorites,

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Speaker 1: Jannis listed as doubtful. What's your interest level? Man, Like,

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Speaker 1: are you like blocking off three hours tonight for the game?

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Speaker 1: Are you just like I'll pick it up in the

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Speaker 1: second half and see what's going on. No, I'm definitely

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Speaker 1: pumped up to see see the game. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think it's a great matchup. J Mac Listen, We've had

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Speaker 1: plenty of debates on Dispute and other shows that we

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Speaker 1: have done together, and you know, looking at how things

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Speaker 1: have unfolded in the NBA playoffs this year, I'm excited

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Speaker 1: to see some new faces, some new energy, some new fans.

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Speaker 1: You know. The approach to this finals is kind of

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Speaker 1: it just breaks the norm. And for that alone, I'm

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Speaker 1: really excited to see. I mean, I'm I'm a fan

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Speaker 1: of Booker. Um, we're seeing the emergence of Middleton. He

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Speaker 1: came up short last year when Jannis had an injury

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Speaker 1: take place, but then now you see the addition of PJ.

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Speaker 1: Tucker and Drew Holliday. It just changed the dynamic of

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Speaker 1: this team. There's a toughness about him that that was

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Speaker 1: not present last last playoffs year. So to see to

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Speaker 1: see the Milwaukee Bucks with a former two time back

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Speaker 1: to back MVP not even playing in the finals. Um,

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Speaker 1: and then obviously the Chris Paul story, along with with

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Speaker 1: Devin Booker and a few others, the emergence of Aiden.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just really excited about it. Mac. What

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Speaker 1: about you? Wow, Leavar. I gotta be honest, I'm a

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Speaker 1: little surprised that you, I mean, you went deep there.

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Speaker 1: I thought this would be like, you know, we'll see

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Speaker 1: what happens DeAndre Ayton ooh exciting. Uh. Man, Let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: this is the first time in a decade, LaVar that

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry or Lebron will not be featured in the Finals.

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Speaker 1: Wow a decade. Okay, We're used to greatness and the

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Speaker 1: legends and all time greats, and now we're settled for

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul versus Drew Holliday. I mean, come about Drew

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Speaker 1: Holiday got lit up by Trey Young for forty eight

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Speaker 1: points in Game one last series. Like, I just, it's

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Speaker 1: tough for me to think the Bucks have a chance

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Speaker 1: here without Jannis Um. I will watch obviously, Listen, I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna lie to you, guys. Um As someone who

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Speaker 1: bought into a soccer team recently, I'm very into Copa America. Uh,

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Speaker 1: The soccer has been phenomenal. Wimbled in a little less so.

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Speaker 1: But these NBA Finals are a tough sell for me. LeVar.

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Speaker 1: You know what I started yesterday. I broke out my

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Speaker 1: NFL depth charts and started going into every single team

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Speaker 1: I started in your favorite division, the NFC East. I'm

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Speaker 1: just like you know, listen, the finals are good, They're

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Speaker 1: gonna be fun. Hopefully we'll get some good basketball, but um,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe Kendall Jenner will show up to support

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Speaker 1: d Book in the valley h And I'm sure, you

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Speaker 1: know the networks will uh most entertaining part of the finals,

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Speaker 1: a kardashianum adjacent into the finals, come on, that's huge,

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Speaker 1: you know, and something some things will stay the same

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Speaker 1: then finals. Hey, you got to sell it to the

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Speaker 1: casual fan man uh And LaVar, I'm a big Devin

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Speaker 1: But when you touched in the Kendall general aspect, it's

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just it's very difficult for me to

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Speaker 1: they handle the pick itt roll of Chris Paul in

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Speaker 1: the light like you know? It's I don't, I don't know, LaVar.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not. I'm a big NBA guy. You

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Speaker 1: know that we've had many sparring battles on the NBA.

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Speaker 1: But LaVar, I'll keep it one hundred with you right now.

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Speaker 1: This is a Sun Suite. Mm. I don't buy it.

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Speaker 1: I don't, I do not buy it. I will say

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Speaker 1: this from my perspective, I do believe that this is

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Speaker 1: obviously Chris Paul's biggest opportunity to solidify a brilliant career.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't first see this being a yearly

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Speaker 1: thing for Chris Paul and the Suns. I think they're

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Speaker 1: ton of great talent on this team. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a very well balanced team. But it's just very difficult

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Speaker 1: to be a repeat team going to the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 1: And I just think that this if just for one series,

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Speaker 1: one season, the brilliance of Chris Paul's career is on

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Speaker 1: a tremendous entertainment value to that. But with that being said,

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Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Bucks, even without Jannis, could be the kryptonite

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Speaker 1: to a magical season for this Sun's team. So I'm

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Speaker 1: interested to watch because, you know what, you very well

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Speaker 1: could be correct. This could be a sweep series, but

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Speaker 1: you could very well be way way way off because

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Speaker 1: I think that there's something about this Milwaukee Bucks team,

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Speaker 1: by both teams. Matter of fact, I think all three

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Speaker 1: and the Atlanta Hawks that unfortunately for Hawks fans, it

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Speaker 1: came to a screechy hold in an end, but Milwaukee

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Speaker 1: earned that series. They won it without there there a superstar,

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Speaker 1: And to me, I think it goes without saying this

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Speaker 1: is going to be a super entertaining series. I don't

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Speaker 1: see it being a sweep. I actually see this being

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Speaker 1: a dog fight series. And and think about it again,

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Speaker 1: for the Phoenix Suns, what the last time they had

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Speaker 1: then the Milwaukee Bucks, what's been been since the seventies

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Speaker 1: since that they've had one and that's a title town.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget the Green Bay Packers are there. They're coming

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Speaker 1: years straight. So these are both fan bases that that

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Speaker 1: would love to see their basketball teams solidify a championship.

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Speaker 1: And I think there's a lot of cool little storylines

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Speaker 1: that are going to play outdoor serious. So Leavar, let's

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Speaker 1: be honest. I'm not being a hater, Okay, I'm just okay,

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Speaker 1: facts in reality here, Okay. I go see if Anthony

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Speaker 1: Davis just not go down to the Suns beat the

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Speaker 1: I see Okay, Okay, If Jamal Murray's around for the

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Speaker 1: Nuggets in the second round, do the Sun sweep Denver

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Speaker 1: he did in the bubble last year, carrying the Nuggets

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Speaker 1: If I did love the Denver Nuggets team to do

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Speaker 1: well before Jamal Murray went down, all right. Finally, if

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Speaker 1: Kawhi Letter plays in the series, and I love making

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Speaker 1: fun of the paper clips more than anybody else. For me,

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Speaker 1: in that series, I say, I say, the Utah Jazz

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Speaker 1: are in the NBA Finals, like I had so boldly

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Speaker 1: have And that's what makes sports so amazing, Jay Mack,

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Speaker 1: you know this, you know, and so for what it's worth,

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Speaker 1: that's why you play the games is because things happen

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Speaker 1: and competitive edges are everywhere and they come from everywhere,

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Speaker 1: and you get those opportunities every once in a while

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Speaker 1: I have a podcast Daily Straight Fire, and I didn't say,

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Speaker 1: sire they were healthy. You know what I said, LaVar,

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Speaker 1: The Suns had the easiest path to the finals in

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Speaker 1: NBA history. And of course Phoenix Suns hate my guts,

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Speaker 1: death threats on the Instagram DM. People just so angry

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Speaker 1: that you're being honest. And again, these are just the

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Speaker 1: facts about the Suns. Yes, hey, they're in the finals.

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Speaker 1: Who cares. They will look back and laugh, and LaVar,

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Speaker 1: you know this playing in the NFL. In the moment, yes,

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Speaker 1: the Suns had the easiest path. But five years from now,

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Speaker 1: in that series five years ago. Yeah, Anthony Davis went

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be is the Sons are NBA champs for

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Speaker 1: the first time in NBA Finals history. I believe the

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Speaker 1: Bucks have one chip with jabbar Um, but the Sons

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Speaker 1: um the Sons versus Jordan. I was rooting so hard

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Speaker 1: upset when Barkley could not pull it off. And thunder

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Speaker 1: Dan and Kevin Johnson, those were those were strong teens.

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Speaker 1: I'm an he was the MVP of the league. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: still do both? And I was like, oh, so yesterday

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Speaker 1: Kendrick Perkins was scheduled to go on the Jump with

425
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: Richard Jefferson. Side note, I know Richard Jefferson a little bit.

426
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: He owns a yoga studio out here. I go to it.

427
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: We talk, blah blah blah. So Richard Jefferson and Kendrick

428
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: Perkins appear, and all these people on social media, largely

429
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: African American fans on Twitter, are like outrage at them.

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00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: How could you go on that show with her and

431
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: not side with Maria Taylor? And now it's become like

432
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: a racial issue. So ESPN is back into a corner.

433
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: What do we do? And of course complicating matters Leavar

434
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Speaker 1: and you know and I know about contract talks. Taylor's

435
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: contract is up at ESPN and everybody has talked about

436
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: it a lot. Here is the apology audio right with

437
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: the contract talk coming up, New York Post is writing

438
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: about it. Here is the apology audio from Rachel Nichols

439
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: yesterday on the Jump. So the first thing they teach

440
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: you in journalism school is don't be the story, and

441
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: I don't plan to break that rule today or distract

442
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 1: from a fantastic finals. But I also don't want to

443
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: let this moment pass without saying how much I respect,

444
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: how much I value our colleagues here at ESPN, how deeply,

445
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: deeply sorry I am for disappointing those I heard, particularly

446
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: Maria Taylor, and how grateful I am to be part

447
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: of this outstanding team. M LaVar. I don't know, that's

448
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: almost I don't find the genuine, necessary nature authentic. Yeah

449
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 1: it comes out after the New York Times. Yeah it's

450
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: kind of whacked cheese, but but in in the end,

451
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 1: she's she's doing what she feels is professionally what she's

452
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: supposed to do. Um and and she's got to deal

453
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: with the repercussions of of what what happened. I mean,

454
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 1: that's just we're all held accountable for any missteps that

455
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: we may have. She didn't in the initial audio, she

456
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 1: didn't really bash Maria Taylor. She Jade was more ticked

457
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: off that she was losing her job to someone who

458
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: doesn't have the experience, hasn't done enough, Like I don't know,

459
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: you could quibble whether or not she earned it. But

460
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: that's what she was ticked off. She's like, I like Maria,

461
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: have her take someone else's job, not mine, right, So

462
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: it's not like she was bashing Taylor. But of course

463
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: you know how this is. I didn't still become like

464
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 1: a white black issue and females backbiting and like that

465
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: shows you how crazy, But that shows you how soft

466
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: and how just into like, there are a lot of

467
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: messed up things going on in the racial stratosphere of

468
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 1: our culture, and this isn't one of them. This isn't

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Speaker 1: one of them, because here's and the whole cast of

470
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: Stone deal. What I was getting at is, if if

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Speaker 1: we could listen to the conversations that these people that

472
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: are outraged with Rachel Nichols, what they say in their

473
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: private time, I'm sure that we would be able to extract,

474
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: extrapolate some some conversation that would be less than flattering

475
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: and probably racial racial undertone or overtones to what the

476
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: conversations are now. With me saying that that's not me

477
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: justifying Rachel Nichols getting caught out there talking trash, but

478
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: what I will say is is that when you look

479
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: at situations like these, it's now become it's now become

480
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: the trend to do cancel culture. So now all of

481
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like, call for Rachel Nichols job or

482
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: she shouldn't have the opportunity she's She's a brilliant She's

483
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: a brilliant reporter, brilliant uh you know analysts with what

484
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: she does. She hosts well, I mean I've been interviewed

485
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: by her. I think she does a fine job of interviewing.

486
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: And I look at Maria Taylor and I think that

487
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: she is an up and coming superstar in this business.

488
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,959
Speaker 1: So in the end, if somebody said if Rachel you know,

489
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: not if she said some things that weren't all flattering

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00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: about Maria Taylor, you know, for what it's worth, this

491
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: is still America. You can say what you feel, and

492
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: you have to be prepared to deal with the repercussions

493
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: of things that you may say. If it's so egregious

494
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: or so derogatory, or so hate driven that it core

495
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: you know, something new to happen, you know you're losing

496
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 1: your job. A lot of this has to do with ego, right,

497
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: of course it does. Rachel Nichols, she's been around the wild.

498
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: She initially had to leave ESPN to go to CNN

499
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: to get her own show, and then she comes back

500
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: to ESPN and gets her own shows she couldn't have

501
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: one initially ESPN. So like she's been in the business

502
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: for a while now Maria Taylor has worked up Sideline

503
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: reporter or two wherever. She is now host of NBA

504
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: and other shows. And who cares how she's gotten there? Correct, Yeah,

505
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's because she's black and now

506
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: it's time to give black people more opportunities. So what

507
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: that's what she needed to use? Then use it? Yeah,

508
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: you know LaVar, how many people listening right now are like, oh,

509
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: LaVar's only on the because he played in the NFL.

510
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: And this McIntire guy, why the hell is he hosting

511
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick? What what has he done? And then you

512
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: know people, oh wait, he did do that, and okay,

513
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: got it, and like everybody's gonna make excuses why you

514
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: should not be there, but guess what you earned it.

515
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: You got there, You fought and claude and worked your

516
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: butt off to get where you are, and you don't

517
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: want to give that up, right, And I can understand

518
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: what Rachel Nichols is pissed. I and Jay MC. I'll

519
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: have moments where I might hate on another guy that's

520
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: in the business. I've never done that. I had I

521
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: of course I've done that everybody. We're human, man, Come on,

522
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: let me let's spin it for work at this I

523
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: work at this thing here. I worked my my my

524
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: tail off to be as good as I can possibly be.

525
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: And I you know, some people that I see get ahead.

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00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: You know, it's like they're not met in the work

527
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: that person putting in the work. So, LeVar, you are

528
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: president of ESPN for the next three minutes, Okay, you

529
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: have to just by this situation. How what is a

530
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: smart resolution or a resolution attempt? And again, ego is

531
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: the keyword here. I don't want to quote the salary

532
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: numbers that Maria Taylor is allegedly asking for. They've been

533
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: written about in multiple places, but they are probably numbers

534
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: that you made on your rookie contract with the Washington

535
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: Redskins at the time or in that ballpark, which you know,

536
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna rip her on the Dan patrickow for that,

537
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: but that's out there. What do you do as a

538
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: potential solution if you're ESPN, how do you resolve this? Well?

539
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: I think that you have to have already resolved it.

540
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 1: If I'm the president, I've already resolved it. I've already

541
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: had conversations with all parties involved, and we're moving forward,

542
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: upward and onward. This is not this is not a

543
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,479
Speaker 1: situation that is volatile enough to derail what's going on

544
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: at ESPN. I do find it to be very very

545
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: intriguing that the mission from Rachel Nichols actually kind of

546
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: highlights the pressure that they're feeling from, you know, for

547
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: using using black people. I would assume that's that's, you

548
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: know what it is. Um it definitely it definitely raises

549
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: a flag in terms of how are we looking at

550
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: Maria Taylor. You know, because in the end, if if

551
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: another minority is calling out another minority and the minority

552
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: being that it's a black woman, not just a woman

553
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: like she's already had to deal with some of the

554
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: same issues that Maria Taylor has had to deal with.

555
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: So for her not to have sensitivities towards it at

556
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: a higher clip, that says to me that she's looking

557
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: at this as a very real issue, that this is

558
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: why she got asked over or didn't get the job,

559
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: or got it taken away from her for this very

560
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: very real issue that's taking place in terms of race

561
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: relations and minority relations as it applies specifically to one

562
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: racial group. So if I'm the president of ESPN right now,

563
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: he had better have had the conversations with both both parties,

564
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 1: both Maria Taylor and with Rachel Nichols, because I don't

565
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: see this being horrible enough where you get rid of

566
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: Rachel Nichols for this, and if you do, you're setting

567
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: a very very dangerous precedence on how things are done

568
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: and how they're managed and how they're governed, especially in

569
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: the way that this audio was you know, how it

570
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: was captured. So I would say the only challenge of

571
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 1: that is we're in the middle of the NBA Finals

572
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: and obviously this is a heavy lifting for everyone involved,

573
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: and it's you know, you don't want to derail the

574
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: coverage by bringing them in and having some kind of

575
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: sit down, peace treaty if you will. You want to

576
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: know the bigger issue, though, Jay mac, what's a bigger issue.

577
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: The bigger issue is not what ESPN does. The bigger

578
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 1: issue here is because cancel society, cancel culture is running

579
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 1: so rampant, you gotta wonder and worry about what's going

580
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: to happen in terms of Rachel's reputation and how that'll

581
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: be handled well's And that's a big thing. The biggest

582
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: thing social media. And again I say I've been saying

583
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: this for several years, guys. I've worked with people who

584
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: let social media get to their head. And LeVar you

585
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: and I know this. You've got a family. At the

586
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: end of the day, when you're done talking about sports

587
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: and reading about sports, you go to your family and

588
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: you hang with them and you're not talking about sports.

589
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: You're talking about life and what's on the schedule and

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00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: how you have to take somebody to swim practice and

591
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: that normal life stuff. If you don't have that outlet,

592
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day all you're doing

593
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: is reading social media and you're on Twitter and you're

594
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: on Facebook and all this crap leavart that gets in

595
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: your head and I'm getting people's head. Yeah, you end

596
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: up thinking that it's everything in the world that a

597
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: bunch of jabronis with uh no avatar, you know, an

598
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: idiot phase seventy three on Twitter, that's their handle. They're

599
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: bashing you like that matters. It doesn't mean a damn thing.

600
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: And you've really got to put the social media away.

601
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: And I'm hopeful. I know Maria Taylor's pretty young. I

602
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: don't know how many if Rachel Nichols says kids or whatever,

603
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: but if you don't have an outlet at the end

604
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: of the day to get away from this nonsense, it

605
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: is really bad news. I see trash about it and

606
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: talk trash about Yeah, I'll talk trash about you all

607
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: the time. I'm talking of that. I got it, you know,

608
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: I know. I've worked with the massive trash talkers. You

609
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: know it's it's it can be a nightmare, but ultimately,

610
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: like I know, you're a good guy, and you know

611
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: you've got to listen. We gotta have thick skin. We

612
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: got in this business man. You know it's media. It's

613
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: me your high pops when you're when you're hosting one

614
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: of the biggest radio shows. Because we are right now

615
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: in country, I've got to be ready to open social

616
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 1: media in an hour because I'm not doing it now. Somebody,

617
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: those guys suck people. You're the word you suck and

618
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: they spelled you're wrong because you know that's what these

619
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: people do. Um. But anyway, I know some people will

620
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: be like, what do you guys, how is that even

621
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: a topic? LaVar? I think that is one of the

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00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: spiciest topics in sports right now. Oh and we're talking

623
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,959
Speaker 1: about it. And you know what, you're the host, I'm

624
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: co hosting with you. You're driving the show. You can

625
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: choose what you want to talk about. And you know

626
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: what they can do. They can choose whether they want

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00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: to listen or not go from there. That's how this

628
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: whole thing's out there right now in the radio or

629
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: not great that big said coming up next. You know

630
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Did you hear what Aaron Rodgers said about

631
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers? I mean it's recent. I think

632
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: he'd happened in the last couple of hours. He's he's

633
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: doing golf. I guess he's playing golf Today's is he

634
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: playing golf today? Swoll I'm gonna start calling you LaVar

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Speaker 1: swoll Arrington because I know TJ. Housveinzada has been getting

636
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: at you to get after and all of a sudden,

637
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 1: now you start showing up on the Graham just jacked. Yeah,

638
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: I'm getting it in man. You know, all my kids,

639
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: we're all in the weight room, so they got me

640
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: going now. Aaron Rodgers not in the weight room, but

641
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: he's doing something else's offseason to help his rift with

642
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: the Packers front office. We'll tell you about that next

643
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: here on The Dan Patrick Show. Nice. Thanks for listening

644
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Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch

645
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six

646
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can

647
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 1: find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream

648
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 1: us live on the Peacock app. You know, it's fun

649
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: to disagree, right, We often disagree. Sometimes we'll be in lockstep.

650
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: Sometimes we both hate something, but we are I think

651
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: at heart guys who like stuff, and it's being seeing

652
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: others be successful. You know when LaVar, when my friends

653
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: level up, I don't see it as oh they're doing

654
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: better than me. I see it as I like that.

655
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: I like to be around people who are trying to

656
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 1: do better and improve their station in life. You know, ah,

657
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: stopping at all? Come on like you like if you

658
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: were to get ahead right now and they were like,

659
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: you know what, we're going to take Jason McIntyre, I'll

660
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: be like, why they take j mac? Come? Why not me?

661
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: That's the thing I know I know you're kidding, but like,

662
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: think about it. All those guys who are like I

663
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: need this, I want this, and they chase it once

664
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: you get it, are you ready? Do you know what

665
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: they do? You know, this media race, it feels like

666
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: a rat race, and you know you don't want to

667
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 1: just be that guy who's comparing himself to others. Because LaVar,

668
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: we we've both seen other people get their own shows,

669
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: whether TV, radio, podcast, whatever, and you know, obviously you

670
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 1: know they're getting ahead, and maybe you're a little upset,

671
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: But the reality is those folks who get ahead probably

672
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: weren't ready for it. And you've seen them wash out

673
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: of the industry and they're gone. Just as quick as

674
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: they passed you, they're gone. And guess who's still in

675
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: the game. You are. And in college sports right now,

676
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: you're going to see a lot of athletes profit off name,

677
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: image and likeness as they should. I'll be honest, LaVar,

678
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: I had never heard of these twins from Fresno State

679
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: basketball cavenders. Okay, I've never heard of them. I see

680
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: they're sponsored by boost Mobile. I said, what, that's not

681
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: the local pop and mom and pop shop or that's real.

682
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: I looked them up. Of course, they have a lot

683
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: of followers on Instagram. They are, you know, attractive blonds

684
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: who are in college, and LaVar, let's be really, you

685
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: gotta look a little hard to find out what sport

686
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: they play if you go to their ig page. But

687
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 1: that's just that's life, right, And guess what, who cares

688
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: because they have something like five million followers on TikTok

689
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: between the two of them, right, and now you're looking

690
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: at boost mobile folks, that's not like three four figure money.

691
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: That's probably five and possibly even six year pay days

692
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: for college kids because they have large Instagram followers. And

693
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: I love this. I love everything about it. Not everybody's

694
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: gonna make the same quarterbacks, defensive stars, skill position guys,

695
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: point guards, they're gonna make a lot. And of course

696
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: a lot of the young female athletes are going to

697
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: clean up, you know, because that's how social media works.

698
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: People love to follow attractive athletes for their exploits on Instagram,

699
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: and LaVar, I love all about this. Let me give

700
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: you the big one that just popped here in the

701
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: last few hours. You know, there's an MMA fighter academy

702
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: called American Top Team, and they have forty four gyms

703
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: in South Florida and all over the world. And they

704
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: have a deal with every Miami Hurricane scholarship football player,

705
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: all ninety of them. They're going to be offered. Are

706
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: you ready for this? Five hundred dollars a month up

707
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: to six k a year to endorse American top team

708
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: just training academy for MMA fighters, as long as they

709
00:41:54,600 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: do it through social media, personal appearances and whatever. LaVar Arrington, Yeah,

710
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: I love it. Get that paper, guys, now, it's gonna

711
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: be tough. Not every scholarship player can negotiate the big deal.

712
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: If you're the quarterback or a social media guy with

713
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: you know, twenty five thousand followers versus five thousand, you're

714
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: gonna make more money and more power to you. But LaVar,

715
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: I love everything about this. I think with all of

716
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: the positives that come with this new rule, change with

717
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: the as it applies to the naming and you know,

718
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: what's the I part identity? What is it name? Image

719
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: and image, image and likeness. I think for all of

720
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: the positives you you probably would be best served to

721
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 1: figure out what the negatives are and work from there.

722
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: And the reason being is is that there's probably a

723
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Speaker 1: very small percentage when you take take it all into

724
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: account for all athletes and athletics in college, when you

725
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: take it all in to account, there's going to be

726
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: a very small percentage that truly profit in an impactful

727
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 1: way from this rule change, it's still in a way

728
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: going to profit everybody else other than the athlete. And

729
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: now that may catch people off guard and make them

730
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 1: think like, oh, well, why is that. Like they should

731
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Speaker 1: be able to make money. Yes, athletes should be able

732
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: to make money off of their hard work. Yes, athletes

733
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Speaker 1: should be able to control their their name, their image,

734
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Speaker 1: and their likeness one hundred percent. Here's where the problem

735
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: takes place is the education and when you think about

736
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Speaker 1: the education aspect and the component of where we are

737
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Speaker 1: now about to enter into in terms of the business

738
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Speaker 1: world of college athletes. I am not I am not

739
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: a guy who says don't pay the athletes. In fact,

740
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: I've always been one who has championed figuring out a

741
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: way to pay athletes in college, because if you pay

742
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: them in college, then they can focus in on their grades,

743
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: they can focus in on playing ball, and and ultimately

744
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: they can focus in on graduating. You know, because most guys,

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00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 1: most most athletes especially in the big the major sports. UM,

746
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: if if there's no farm league like you know, baseball

747
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 1: or hockey, UM even in basketball. Really guys are out

748
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: of there, and they're out of there because they are

749
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: chasing the American dream, which is the ability to be

750
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: able to generate a profit off of what their their

751
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 1: their talents have been able to create for them. It's

752
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: no different than the person that is super super smart

753
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: and they're going to college for uh, you know, some

754
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 1: type a degree in aero dynamics, aero you know whatever, dynostics,

755
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: data DA, data DA, those people that are splitting atoms

756
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 1: and doing brain surgeries. It's you know, it's so weird

757
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: how how athletics is so minimized in terms of respect

758
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 1: as it applies to brilliance to be able to do

759
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: the things that these athletes are able to do in

760
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: the blinking of an eye. Like, think about how brilliant

761
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: you have to be for your mind to be able

762
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: to to generate and give the orders to the rest

763
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: of your body to do some of the things we

764
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: see these guys do. Now you take that same brilliance

765
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: and somebody's applying it to something different and their view differently.

766
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: It's always been extracurricular, you know what I mean, It's

767
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: always been after school. And the idea of it to

768
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: me is now, now we're going to see a situation

769
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: where athletes are actually going to be put in a

770
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: lot of ways in the same and the same conversations

771
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 1: as some of these other other you know, I guess

772
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: categories because there is a little bit more freedom and

773
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: what it is that they're able to do. Jay Man,

774
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 1: I saw it a little differently, only that I'm thinking

775
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: back to my college experience, and news flash, I did

776
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,959
Speaker 1: not play college sports. Cyclavar Arrington who was a top

777
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: flight recruit, and I'm sure agents were beaten down his

778
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: door from the time he was sixteen. That being said,

779
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: when I was in college, the amount of downtime I

780
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: had was enough to play video games and drink three

781
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: four nights a week and chase girls around and do

782
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: other fun stuff that too, right, So here's my thing.

783
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: If instead of play video games and mess around on

784
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: this thing called the Internet, which kind of popped when

785
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: I was in college, I was able to build a

786
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: following and make money. I think I would have gone

787
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: to build a following and make money route as opposed

788
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: to just goof around and maybe, you know, take a

789
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: couple of bong hits and you play video games. LaVar.

790
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: These guys can make businesses now like it's and again

791
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking big picture. You zoom out and you say, okay,

792
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: right now, it's nice to do. Take some sponsorship money.

793
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: Pretty cool. I can make five thousand dollars awesome. If

794
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: I can make fifty thous awesome, LaVar. You know what

795
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 1: the next step is. It's the American dream. It's entrepreneurship.

796
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 1: It's wait a minute, I can make this a business

797
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: instead of my homie who's gonna go with me and

798
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: goof around all the time in college because we've got

799
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: all this time on off our hands to have fun. LaVar.

800
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: Hey man, why don't you help me build this business.

801
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 1: I've got the big social media following. Let's work together.

802
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: You go wrangle me some opportunities. I'll sit through them

803
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: and we can just stack paper and LaVar. Next thing,

804
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: you know, these four or five figure paydays right now

805
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: turning six, seven, eight figure pay days in five ten years,

806
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: Like if they can, if the athletes can focus on

807
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: this while crushing school and crushing sports, because obviously you

808
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: still have to stay on the sports team and do well. LaVar,

809
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: the sky's the limit. I just maybe I'm being too

810
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: optimistic and pie in the sky. I don't. You're not,

811
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: You're not. But again, I guess what I was trying

812
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: to get at with my first point, and I got

813
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, off off the rails attached bit.

814
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: But the idea of it is is that the can

815
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: of worms that look at it from this way, let

816
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: me just go straight to it. Now, money managers, agents, handlers,

817
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: they are now all going to open season on eighth graders,

818
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: seventh graders, sixth graders. Wasn't that already happened maybe in

819
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: some sports, maybe in basketball, yes, but but well even

820
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: in yes, it does happen. But now you don't have

821
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: to be on the dark. It's a dark market. It's

822
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: a it has always been a dark market to cultivate

823
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: talent at such early ages, because it's considered to be

824
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: this this thing called uh, what what's that called when

825
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 1: when you take advantage of someone in there? Oh? Yeah, exploitation,

826
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: that's right, that's what it is. So the idea of

827
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: exploiting talent, you know, we started, we started having conversations

828
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: about early offers, to college. Kids are in the seventh grade,

829
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: eighth grade, and they're getting the offers to colleges for

830
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: full rides. And it's not it's not real, but it

831
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: is real. It's not the things could change within the

832
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: next year, two years, three years, But in that moment,

833
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: they're offering scholarships to these younger kids, and they're like,

834
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: you know, everybody would the whole After a great conversation

835
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 1: with the coach, I'm blessed to announce that I've got

836
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: my first scholarship offer year in the eighth grade. Yeah,

837
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: but now it's kind of like it's the wild it

838
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: will become the wild, wild West. And I said this

839
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 1: on another show. It could almost turn into the same

840
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: type of impact on communities that drugs had. And it's

841
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,959
Speaker 1: a big statement. And I know a lot of people

842
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: would be like, man, shut up, you sound crazy, But

843
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: if you really think about it, drugs became something that

844
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: people were more focused on than even themselves or their

845
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: loved ones, and and it became an infatuation and obsession

846
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Speaker 1: and and it destroyed families. And that was not just

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Speaker 1: in the black communities, but it's prevalent in in in

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Speaker 1: low income imparvished communities. That's just what it is. This

849
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: has the makings of the same exact thing, because the

850
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: highest bidders are going to destroy these families because they're

851
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Speaker 1: going to be able to come in and they're going

852
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: to be able to buy parents, they're going to be

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00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: able to buy kids, and they're going to be able

854
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: to buy opportunities long before we even know who they

855
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Speaker 1: are as as a let's take this. Let's try for

856
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: a real world example. Okay, little Johnny Nincompoop is an

857
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: awesome football player. He is in ninth grade. So the

858
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Speaker 1: kid take the kid that dad the Super Bowl commercial

859
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: little Bunchie, I don't know. Okay, that's fine, but Bunchee

860
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: was the kid that if you were calling the Super Bowl,

861
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Speaker 1: uh that that was running. He made like Sports illustrated,

862
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: like he was all over the place for how fast

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Speaker 1: he is. And he colors his hair a different color.

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Speaker 1: He's from out here in California. Okay, so he's a

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Speaker 1: football player, So go ahead. So he's a football player,

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Speaker 1: and um, I don't let's just say he's in ninth

867
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Speaker 1: grade and you're an agent, you come to him. What

868
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 1: are you selling the mom and the dad and the kid?

869
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Speaker 1: Right now? You don't have to sell them anything. All

870
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Speaker 1: you got to do is bring a bag. But that

871
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: was already happening, LaVar, wasn't that. I don't understand what changes. No, No,

872
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Speaker 1: because now it's legal. Now it's legal. What you're saying

873
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: is correct, but there had to be First off, you

874
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: could get in some serious, you know, some serious the

875
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Speaker 1: Cam Newton story at Auburn, right, I mean that's been

876
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: dragged out a million times. Right, Allegedly people are giving

877
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Speaker 1: his dad money for a church or church, right, but

878
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: they were really giving it to him. Now that's alleged.

879
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 1: I don't want people yelling either way. You could get

880
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 1: into some serious shale time trouble right now, you don't

881
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Speaker 1: What are you saying now that they come to a

882
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Speaker 1: little munchee and say, yo, hey, bunchee, we're gonna give you.

883
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Speaker 1: You know, you have an Instagram account with one thousand followers,

884
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Speaker 1: but we're going to give you five hundred thousand dollars

885
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: you need you go to the University of Texas or

886
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: wherever the school is. Right is you're saying that will happen, right,

887
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Speaker 1: I mean even worse than that, because they're not going

888
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: to tell you what school to go to They're just

889
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: going to own your rights. They're going to be buying

890
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Speaker 1: people are going to be but I mean the parents

891
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: have to be able to sign that deal where they're

892
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: going to give away their kids, right, do you understand what?

893
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Speaker 1: Like That's why I compared it to the dope game.

894
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 1: You don't have to give an imparverished person too much,

895
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Speaker 1: Like how much do you have to really give? I'll

896
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Speaker 1: give you two thousand dollars a month for the next

897
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Speaker 1: thirty forty years. Just give me your son, give me

898
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Speaker 1: your daughter. Yeah, Well, like people are going to start

899
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: going like the highest bidder is going to start start

900
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Speaker 1: monopolizing on cultivating talent. And they're not even going to

901
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: cultivate the talent in terms of developer the talent. They're

902
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: going to see the talent and if it's not somebody

903
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: from a strong, stable situation, and even in those situations,

904
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 1: people are still going to leverage those situations. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: just I think it could be I think for all

906
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Speaker 1: the great things that can come out of what this

907
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Speaker 1: this this is going to create for the opportunities for

908
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Speaker 1: college athletes, it's going to become even worse. It's going

909
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: to become a disgustingly ugly situation. At lower levels it

910
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: sounds like and by lower level you mean like maybe

911
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: imposible communities people don't sense or the means to reach

912
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: out to incredible people and say, hey, is this I

913
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: think this is even worse than than that, because it

914
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Speaker 1: transcends him, It transcends being imparvished, because you can if

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Speaker 1: I'm if I'm Microsoft, if I'm Apple, if I'm PlayStation,

916
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Speaker 1: and if I'm Greyhound, if I'm Mercedes Benz, I don't

917
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Speaker 1: have to go and imparverished areas. I can go into

918
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Speaker 1: affluent areas as well. Affluent people want their kids. In fact,

919
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Speaker 1: they'll pay more right because they can't. They'll pay for

920
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Speaker 1: their kids to have these usc scandal in the rowing

921
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