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Speaker 1: Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now.

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Speaker 1: Thanks everybody for being here with us. We are joined

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Speaker 1: by Louisiana Senator Bill Cassidy. Sendor Cassidy, appreciate you being here, sir,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Appreciate it very much. Let's start

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Speaker 1: with where you are on the DHS funding situation here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you want you want TSA funded,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not sure. I haven't checked in on New

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Speaker 1: Orleans Airport whether it's been affected at all. That would

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Speaker 1: obviously be a big deal in your home state that

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Speaker 1: you represent. But it looks like there might be a

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Speaker 1: turning of the tide here. You now have ICE helping out,

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Speaker 1: possibly even National Guard helping out. Do you think this

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Speaker 1: changes the calculation for Democrats or is this just going

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Speaker 1: to continue on this brinksmanship ship where the American people

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Speaker 1: who are trying to travel end up suffering.

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Speaker 2: I think Chuck Schuman thinks he's got to win an

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Speaker 2: issue and he's gonna ride that horse. And I am

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm a doctor, excuse the term, but I

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Speaker 2: am urinated off. I mean, we got people waiting five

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Speaker 2: hours to get through a line. We got TSA agents

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Speaker 2: trying to pay their bills and haven't been paid for

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Speaker 2: six weeks and most I think all the demands that

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Speaker 2: the Democrats had have been met, Okay, then they pull

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Speaker 2: back and say we want more. It's like the Iranians

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Speaker 2: a winning issue. They're going to continue to hold it

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Speaker 2: they don't care the cost to the American traveler, and they.

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Speaker 3: Don't care the cost to the person who works.

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Speaker 2: For TSA or FEMA or Coastguard. It is just man,

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Speaker 2: you just deserve to be angry.

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Speaker 3: Brother.

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Speaker 4: In your state, New Orleans, it has been among the

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Speaker 4: worst of all airports that we've seen. Not far from you,

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Speaker 4: Houston has also been bad. What are you hearing at

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Speaker 4: the New Orleans airport for people out there that are

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Speaker 4: at spring break. What are you hearing from people at

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Speaker 2: So, first, the woman I spoke to who is going

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Speaker 2: I talked to the airport administrator. Sunday and Monday are

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Speaker 2: in the afternoon. If you're in the morning, go very early,

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Speaker 2: particularly if you're on Sunday and Monday. But you know,

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Speaker 2: the very fact that we're having this conversation and Democrats

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Speaker 2: agreed to a deal months ago, and then they then

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Speaker 2: pulled back, and then they agreed again, and then they

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Speaker 2: pulled back. They don't want a deal, they want an issue.

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Speaker 2: And the issue that they want continues to evolve, which

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Speaker 2: makes me think what they really want as a political

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Speaker 2: they're the ones screwing it up. Hey, guys, just just

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Speaker 5: When do you think this gets resolved?

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Speaker 4: I mean, there seem to be a little bit of optimism,

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Speaker 4: but again, as we've mentioned, this is happening all over

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Speaker 5: We're hearing about it a lot.

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Speaker 4: If you had to guess, I mean it is a

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Speaker 4: political issue now Democrats have decided to make it one.

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Speaker 4: You may have heard we had the ICE suggestion help

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Speaker 4: Where is this going and how do we fix it?

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Speaker 2: Well, the President's going to try and you know for

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Speaker 2: those positions that an ICE or a National Guard could

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Speaker 2: President trying to get out there, get ahead of it.

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Speaker 2: I think we should. We're still going to have some problems.

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Speaker 1: Can you just remind everybody, Senator that what it is

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Speaker 1: of an executive branch agency, and they're just using this issue.

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Speaker 1: It's like they're taking travelers hostage, or at least their

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is remarkable. They don't want funding for ICE,

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Speaker 2: Working Family's Tax Cuts Bill, we actually Republicans anticipated they

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Speaker 2: so we can actually you know, navigate that. That's you

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Speaker 2: But they also want the They also want the ICE

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Speaker 2: they've got their street brigades who will then go out

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Speaker 2: follow them to their home. We know that because in Portland,

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Speaker 2: that's what the kind of radical left street brigade did

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Speaker 2: of the agents. Tom Homan says, Listen, we can put

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Speaker 2: someone behaves inappropriately. So the so I think what they

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Speaker 2: the White Houses said, we'll give you body cams. Will

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Speaker 2: be able to keep the film. We'll keep the film.

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Speaker 2: So the demands are being met except for the demands

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Speaker 4: We're talking to Senator Bill Cassidy of Louisiana. You are

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Speaker 4: working on a bill that is trying to get overall

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Speaker 4: the insider trading shutdown. This is something that is overwhelmingly

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Speaker 4: popular with our audience.

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Speaker 5: We hear about it all the time.

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Speaker 4: Certainly, Nancy Pelosi has had the greatest success of anybody

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Speaker 5: What is the likelihood of a bill getting passed? What

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Speaker 5: are you trying to do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're trying to restore faith in Congress. Full disclosure,

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Speaker 2: I'm running for re election. One of my opponents, Congresswoman Letlow,

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Speaker 2: has done extremely well in the stock market, including trading

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Speaker 2: a subcommittee upon which she serves. But this should be

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Speaker 2: about restoring the faith in the American people that Congress

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Speaker 2: is not a place you come to do well financially.

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Speaker 2: It's a place you come to do good for the

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Speaker 2: So the fact that Nancy Pelosi and her stocktrinating has

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Speaker 1: Senator, what are your thoughts on where the war with

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Speaker 1: Iran stands right now? I know there's ongoing negotiation. The

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Speaker 1: degrading Iranian capabilities. State of horror moves. Is it open?

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Speaker 1: Is it going to open soon? That's a big question.

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Speaker 1: People have gas price is obviously some concern there. Where

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Speaker 1: do you come down on all of this?

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Speaker 2: Clearly, the Iranians sending a ballistic missile twenty five hundred

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Speaker 2: So you put the two together. They were trying to

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Speaker 2: many of our bases are. So the President's decision to

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Speaker 4: We're talking to Center Bill Cassidy, Okay, chaos when it

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Speaker 4: comes to college athletics. I know that you have a

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Speaker 4: bill that you are working on. There a lot of

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Speaker 4: where Lane Kiffin is now the LSU football coach. Are

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Speaker 2: First? I know that Clay loves Lane Kiffen. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: you play just like as a poster of Lane in

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Speaker 5: I'll know that far.

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Speaker 2: So even people.

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Speaker 3: Put it this way.

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Speaker 2: Everybody, I think thinks that the athletes should have had

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Speaker 2: some revenue sharing. The universities are pulling in an incredible

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Speaker 2: Tommy Tepperville, former coach at Auburn, is on my committee.

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Speaker 2: He goes he had been pushing for revenue sharing for

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Speaker 2: some control over it. That sounds good. What's happened? And

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Speaker 2: there's an athlete back home college Temple. It's about seventy

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Speaker 4: You were just talking with Buck. I know how busy

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Speaker 4: you are. Do you expect you just said you're damn right. Uh, yeah,

436
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Speaker 4: you just said you're damn right. Do you expect that

437
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Speaker 4: TSA will be able to help you with ice arrest

438
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Speaker 4: people because and you tell me if I'm wrong here,

439
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Speaker 4: But what I think about is people are showing up

440
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Speaker 4: with IDs, we know exactly who they are. It seems

441
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Speaker 4: like it could potentially be a very easy place to

442
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Speaker 4: figure out if you're arresting the right guys or gals.

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Speaker 3: Oh you want to talk about talking enforcement offers? Absolutely, souse.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's got to show ninety come true and we can

445
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Speaker 3: you know, every specialation in year off so as a

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Speaker 3: at a cell phone with the capability of accessing our databases.

447
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Speaker 3: So yeah, you know this work. We're going to force

448
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Speaker 3: immer grace when we see it looks like table, we

449
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Speaker 3: get a lead or target lead, you know from TSA

450
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Speaker 3: saying we've got information on this one or that one. Yeah,

451
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Speaker 3: we're going to do We're going to do our job.

452
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Speaker 3: We're going to do, you know, open a criminal investigation,

453
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Speaker 3: whether you know, if we've got reasonal suspicion to question

454
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Speaker 3: someday or proper calls for rest somebody. That's exactly what

455
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Speaker 3: we're going to do. We're gonna work with our brothers

456
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Speaker 3: and TSA to keep the airport safe. And you know,

457
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Speaker 3: and and someone's transversion to the airport that not in

458
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Speaker 3: the country were can we find out about it? And

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Speaker 3: we have reasonal suspicion, you know that we're going to

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Speaker 3: we're going to take on enforcement. Actually, we're absolutely going

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Speaker 3: to do that.

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Speaker 5: We're talking to Tom Homan.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw, but Philadelphia's district attorney,

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Speaker 4: I believe his last name is Krasner said threatened to

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Speaker 4: arrest ICE agents at the airport. What's your reaction when

467
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Speaker 4: you hear Soros funded das making comments.

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Speaker 3: Like that, THAT'SO ridiculous And they know bottom minus fethereral

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Speaker 3: law always trump's local state laws. So you know, we're

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Speaker 3: reforming our duties as as an acted by Congress. We're

471
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Speaker 3: not making this up. We are enforcing immigration law, and

472
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Speaker 3: we're going to do it all the piloty. I mean,

473
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Speaker 3: I've been up on the hill negotiating trying to get

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Speaker 3: this governor back open, and they basically they said they

475
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Speaker 3: don't really want to bolish ize. They wanted to just

476
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Speaker 3: reform I know the language are proposing. They want they know,

477
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Speaker 3: they just want to shut it down. They want to

478
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Speaker 3: take tools away from ICE. So I'm not going to

479
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Speaker 3: do that. They've been hamstrung for four years under Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: Now they're finally doing their duty. They're upboarding. Oh, they

481
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Speaker 3: took their enforcing laws that Congress wrote and was signed

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Speaker 3: by President, and that's exactly what we're going to do. So,

483
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Speaker 3: you know, I'm frustrated. They obviously see some sort of

484
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Speaker 3: benefit on not funding the Department of Homeland Security. Right

485
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Speaker 3: We're in an elevated threat posture right now, and we

486
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Speaker 3: got people from you know, cybersecurity that aren't working. We

487
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Speaker 3: got people, you know, the Coast Guard that ain't being paid.

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Speaker 3: We got people with you know, TSA not being paid,

489
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Speaker 3: FEMA not being paid. These people are putting this country

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Speaker 3: at great risk during an elevated threat posture. It's just

491
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Speaker 3: unbelievable that they're not willing to come to the table

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Speaker 3: and meet with us. I met with them. They talk

493
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Speaker 3: about reform and immigration, but I've been explaining to them

494
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Speaker 3: the policies of enforcement has not changed in thirty years.

495
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Speaker 3: We had the same policies under Obama, under Clinton, under Bush,

496
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Speaker 3: one of Bush too. So it's not a policy issue.

497
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Speaker 3: It's an execution issue. And we fix that. And you know,

498
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Speaker 3: there were some problems in Minneapolis, and I went up

499
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Speaker 3: there and President Trump asked me to go up there

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Speaker 3: and address and we addressed a few issues. But most

501
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Speaker 3: of men and women ninety nine percent are doing the

502
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Speaker 3: right thing and we're on the right mission. But I'm

503
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Speaker 3: not going to sit there and negotiate taking authorities or

504
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Speaker 3: away from ice to enforce the law. It's just it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: I'm tired of it.

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Speaker 1: We're speaking to Tom Homan. Borders are for this Trump

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Speaker 1: White House, and Tom, can you speak to where are

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Speaker 1: we in terms of illegal removals, deportations one year and

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Speaker 1: change into this administration, and what are expectations, what is

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Speaker 1: on the horizon for deportations going forward, is there a

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Speaker 1: plan to ramp up?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: So basically, how far have we come to this point?

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Speaker 1: And where are we going over the next year.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, last year we got about, you know,

516
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Speaker 3: over seven hundred thousand removals between the patrol and nuts.

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Speaker 3: The closest year to that was under bomb administration in

518
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Speaker 3: twenty twelve when I was in euro we were in

519
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Speaker 3: moved four hundred and nine thousands. So we brew that

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Speaker 3: out of water, and uh, you know, I actually got

521
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Speaker 3: a Presidential Rink Award for that. You know how the

522
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Speaker 3: Democrats have changed. I got in the war in twenty

523
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Speaker 3: twelve or four hundred and nine thousand mules and and

524
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Speaker 3: you know, highest ward available. Now all of a sudden,

525
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Speaker 3: I can't. I'm not allowed to deport anybody. But you know,

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Speaker 3: if we have a seven hundred thousands, we're already making directly.

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Speaker 3: But we just brought ten thousand more, well not quite

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Speaker 3: we got to you know, almost at ten thousand, but

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Speaker 3: we're hiring ten thousand more enforcement officers, which is going

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Speaker 3: to just increase those men and women in the street,

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Speaker 3: the sanctuary cities and all this all this crack going on. Yes,

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Speaker 3: it's less efficient. We have to work harder. We have

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Speaker 3: to work smarter because they won't give us access to

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Speaker 3: the jails. But you know, like when Minnesota, you know,

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Speaker 3: it was terrible up there. But you know, I went

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Speaker 3: up there and I sat down, the governor, sat down,

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Speaker 3: the ag. I sat down the mayor, and I explained

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Speaker 3: to them, you don't want, you know, on all three

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Speaker 3: thousand people in the street, then let me in the

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Speaker 3: damn jail, because one agent can arrest one by bad

541
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Speaker 3: guy in the jail, but when you released, I got

542
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Speaker 3: to send a whole few jacks team to find him.

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Speaker 3: And because of all the hate and the threats up there,

544
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Speaker 3: then we got to send a security team to back

545
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Speaker 3: up THEIRS team. So we got doozen guys out there.

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Speaker 3: They could have done the job with one person in

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Speaker 3: the jail. And we got unprecedented cooperation in the county

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Speaker 3: jails throughout the state. You know, we got state prison

549
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Speaker 3: system working with us. It made sense. It made sense

550
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Speaker 3: because less people are need to just do the job.

551
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Speaker 3: But you know, in the sanctuary cities, that's what it is.

552
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Speaker 3: Back in the day when I was an agent, we

553
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Speaker 3: had access to all the jails. One agent can rest

554
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Speaker 3: one bad guy, but they released them. Now we got

555
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Speaker 3: to send six or seven people for also, states are

556
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Speaker 3: reasons to find them. Find someone doesn't want to be arrested,

557
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Speaker 3: which is of course much dangers for the community, danger

558
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Speaker 3: for the more dangers for the aliens than anything that

559
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Speaker 3: happen is street. The rest of much dangerous for the agents.

560
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Speaker 3: But with ten thousands more agents will beat last year's number.

561
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Speaker 3: But you know things like that, we got agents at

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Speaker 3: the airport now and rather than on the street. And

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Speaker 3: but you know, the priority right now is get the

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Speaker 3: airport secure, move those lines through and help our brothers

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Speaker 3: and sisters TSA. But as soon as the shutdown ends,

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Speaker 3: and I think it's going to come out to reconciliation

567
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Speaker 3: because this negotiation was going nowhere. I mean, we give

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Speaker 3: it a little bit, they take away a bunch. It's

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Speaker 3: just it's just ridiculous. So when we hit the government

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Speaker 3: back open, then I can get out there and get

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Speaker 3: back to the main mission. But I might be clear,

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Speaker 3: we're going to leave a contingent at the airport because

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Speaker 3: we got human trafficking through the airport, we got currency

574
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Speaker 3: smuggling through the airport, We've got amily smuggling through the airport.

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Speaker 3: We've always had a small footprint there, but what we're

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Speaker 3: seeing now we may have a bigger contingent there to

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Speaker 3: enforce immigration loong there to them.

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Speaker 4: We're talking to borders are to Tom Homan, you told

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Speaker 4: us before that you thought there were twenty million illegals

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Speaker 4: in the country after Biden opened the border and let

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Speaker 4: everybody in. You just talked about I think the number

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Speaker 4: was seven hundred thousand. How many people do you think

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Speaker 4: are voluntarily leaving? You know, people out there who see

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Speaker 4: what's going on and just say, hey, maybe this is

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Speaker 4: not the place for me. Do you have I know

586
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Speaker 4: there's been numbers out there, but what kind of sense

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Speaker 4: do you have about voluntary departures?

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Speaker 3: Well, according to DHS data, it's over two million UH

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Speaker 3: at first year, and the Trump over two man either

590
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Speaker 3: through the home maps, VP home map or just leaving.

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Speaker 3: A CVP tracks a lot of people when they you know, uh,

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Speaker 3: they land in foreign airports, but we don't really know

593
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Speaker 3: who go south to the border travels south. But DHS

594
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Speaker 3: and through some independent studies said about two million. I

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Speaker 3: think the more and more. And let me let me

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Speaker 3: tell you something about ice operation, about the secure body right.

597
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Speaker 3: We have the most secure border ever. We got to

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Speaker 3: give a lot of credit to what's happening, what ICE

599
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Speaker 3: is doing in the streets right now, because we send

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Speaker 3: a clear message there is no longer free ride if

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Speaker 3: you're in this country legally, we're looking for you. When

602
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Speaker 3: the whole the whole world sees ICE out there doing

603
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Speaker 3: massive operations, that sends a strong message, don't give you

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Speaker 3: life stavments to the cartel because you're not going to

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Speaker 3: be released from the border like the Bidamin station did.

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Speaker 3: If you happen to get by the Bordatrol, we're looking

607
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Speaker 3: for you. No more free ride. So I think because

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Speaker 3: of what ICE is doing nationwide is a big factor

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Speaker 3: and why we have the most secured border in the

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Speaker 3: history of this nation.

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Speaker 5: Tom Homan, Borders are. We know how busy you are.

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Speaker 5: We appreciate you anything we can say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to say something real quick, Tom,

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Speaker 1: thank you for what you're doing, you know, and thank

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Speaker 1: you for representing the men and women of ICE and

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Speaker 1: DHS so well with all the nonsense the Democrats have

617
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Speaker 1: been trying. I just was watching some TV show last

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Speaker 1: night totally maligning Ice. You're a true professional, you're serving

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Speaker 1: your country and you know, thanks from me, from Clay

620
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Speaker 1: and from the whole audience, we really appreciate you and

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Speaker 1: all the men and women of ICE were doing their

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Speaker 1: job under the constitution of this country.

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Speaker 3: And let me add one thing that I appreciate those words.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. But you know, God bless the men women

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Speaker 3: of Ice and boarders. I was a borgislation. I know

626
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Speaker 3: they're dealing with. I wasn't Ice ating for a long time.

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Speaker 3: I know they're dealing with. I wish these members of

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Speaker 3: Congress rather than vilifying the men and win of Ice

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Speaker 3: and call them the Nazis and the secret pleach, which

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Speaker 3: just increases the threats against them, increases the violence against them.

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Speaker 3: You know what, girls, set put a badge on your

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Speaker 3: put a badge on your chest, put a gun on

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Speaker 3: your hip, and come out with us. See what they're

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Speaker 3: dealing with, and see what you have caused from the

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Speaker 3: constant negative rhetoric and comparing them to the Nazis, which

636
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Speaker 3: increases a thread against them, which increases the doxing against them,

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Speaker 3: which has increased assaults over fourteen so revenue sitting here,

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Speaker 3: call us names, Strap a gun to your hip, put

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Speaker 3: a couple ar best on and come do what we

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Speaker 3: do and see if you can staying on the line,

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Speaker 3: I guarantee you none can.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely God bless Tom to you and all those that

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Speaker 1: you're you're representing out there.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Late, Yeah, thank you too. Borders

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Speaker 4: are Tom Homan. Look homeowners. Certain parts of your house

646
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Speaker 4: don't do well with delayed maintenance. One of those the roof.

647
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Speaker 4: When your roof needs your pair, you're on a time clock.

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Speaker 4: Get ahead of it with a free roof and ine.

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Speaker 4: Use this time of year to have an expert inspect

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Speaker 4: Welcome back in Loose and up shop on the program

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Speaker 4: our thanks to Tom Homan. You're damn right, he said

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Speaker 4: when asked if they would arrest people at airports that

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Speaker 4: may ricochet around a bit. David's been waiting a long

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Speaker 4: time from Utah. Fire away question here, gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: Both of you are superb history nerds and analysts, and

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Speaker 3: I want to be accurate if I continue to refer

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Speaker 3: to Jimmy Carter's Forever War is being brought to a

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Speaker 3: conclusion by President Frump. Do you have any book titles

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Speaker 3: or authors you would recommend on the history analysis of Iran,

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Speaker 3: the Iatola's things leading up to the current conflict.

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Speaker 1: So you got The Persian Puzzle by Kenneth Pollock, that

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Speaker 1: would be a good place to go. As a little older.

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Speaker 1: You got King of Kings by uh Anderson.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to think, I gotta I got a This

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Speaker 4: is not my this is not my wheel of of

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Speaker 4: expertise here. So I'm letting you spend, by the way,

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Speaker 4: Iran's Ministry of Intelligence, a concise history that's by Ward.

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Speaker 1: Also that's new, by the way, that's just out this year.

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Speaker 1: So do Persian Puzzle, Do Iran's Grand Strategy by Nasser