1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what with the Hall 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: of Famer Tim Kirkshen, I am his son, Jeff Kirkshen, 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: and Dad. We got to start by thinking. Tom Glavin 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: was so good on the podcast yesterday. If you missed it, 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: you got to make sure to go back because we 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: not only talked baseball, of course, we talked hockey. 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: We did it all. We talked golf. Tom Glavin hall 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: of famer in every way. Thanks for joining us. Add 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: to the list of Hall of famers we've had on 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 2: the show. 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: Jeff, Yeah, that's right. And Dad, for anybody who's watching, 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: they might notice my backdrop. And where am I? I'm 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: not at home. I'm on the road. I'm actually in Dallas, Dallas, 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: Texas right now, Frisco to be exact. And I'm here 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: for the Academy of Country Music Awards this week. 16 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: That's great. Now. Did do I understand correctly that you 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: went to Billy Bob's last. 18 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: Night the world's largest honky talk? Is that the one 19 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: you're talking about? 20 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: Yes? I have never been there, and I lived in 21 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: Dallas for almost ten years. Never been there. Did you 22 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: ride a mechanical bull? Yes? Or no? 23 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so I had texted our family group text and 24 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: I told both you and Mom. I said, hey, I'm 25 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: at Billy Bob's, thinking that maybe one or both of 26 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: you had actually been because you both lived here for 27 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 1: quite some time. My sister and I were born here 28 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: in Dallas, didn't stay long after we were born. But 29 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: and Mom immediately said ride the mechanical bull, which immediately 30 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: made me think I probably shouldn't because at a honky 31 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: tonk like this and I am working, I'm a country 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: music morning show host, and I was with radio people 33 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,839 Speaker 1: from across the country. I felt as if maybe wasn't 34 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: my place to ride the bull. But that got me 35 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: thinking that have you ever been on a mechanical bull? 36 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: Who do you think you're talking to here, Jeff? Of 37 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: course I haven't. I would never do that. I get 38 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: dizzy on a Merry Go Round with Carson, So no, 39 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: no mechanical bull for me. Although I did cover the 40 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: rodeo one night in Dallas in January of nineteen eighty 41 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: two working for the Dallas Morning News. I covered a 42 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 2: rodeo like I actually knew what I was doing, which 43 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: of course I didn't. And one of the rodeo riders 44 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: name was Charlie Sampson. I'll never forget. He was a 45 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: little guy. It was only just like my height, and 46 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: he was amazing on this bull. So he looks at 47 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 2: me after the interview, Jeff, I'm twenty four years old 48 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: at the time. I don't care what anyone says. I 49 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 2: don't care how self serving this sounds. I'm in the 50 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: best shape of my entire life. I've never been more 51 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: athletic in my life than I was at twenty four. 52 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: So Charlie Sampson looks at me and he goes, you'd 53 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: be a good bull rider. You're really small. He goes, 54 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: you just got to get yourself in shape and then 55 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: maybe you could ride a bull. Charlie, please, I'm in 56 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 2: the best shape of my life, and you can ride 57 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: a bull. And I'm not going to because I would 58 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: never do that. 59 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: Well, clearly, I guess rodeo cowboys shape and sports writer 60 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: shape and pick up basketball player shape are two very 61 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: different things, I assume, right. 62 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: But I did have a great time. Your mom and 63 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: I lived in Texas for parts of ten years, Jeff, 64 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 2: and they were great. I'll never forget my first day 65 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: of the Dallas Morning News. This was December of nineteen 66 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: eighty one. I just turned twenty four years old, and 67 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: I'm like three feet tall. I look like I'm fourteen. 68 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: So I walk in the Dallas Morning News newsroom. This 69 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: is my job. It's a major, great newspaper, and I'm greeted. 70 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: The first person I see when I walk in the 71 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: sports department was Heartless Wade, who I, of course, had 72 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: no idea who he was. I learned that he was 73 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: one of the great Texas sports writers. That what a 74 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: perfect name for a Texas sports writer, Heartless Wade. I 75 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: walk in. He stops me dead in my tracks. Again. 76 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 2: I've been in the newsroom for five steps now, and 77 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: he looks at me with that quizzical look on his face. 78 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: He goes, you must be the new guy, and I 79 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: said yes. He goes, you are the smallest goddamn yankee 80 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: I've ever seen in my life. There I am five 81 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: steps into the news room and he's trashing my height, 82 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: which is necessary, but where I'm from, smallest goddamn yankee 83 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: I've ever seen. So I said, Harless's nice to meet you. 84 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: Ended up having a great relationship with him and with 85 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: the city of Dallas. I really enjoyed our time there. 86 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: So I'm covering the Academy of Country Music Awards stats. 87 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: So after I get off with you, I'm going to 88 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: be interviewing so many country music artists. Yesterday I had 89 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: a chance. 90 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: To do that as well. 91 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: Last night at Billy Bobs, I saw Jelly Roll, Landy Wilson, 92 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: Drew Baldridge, Ernest like all these great country stars. When 93 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: you moved to Dallas, though, they asked you one question 94 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: about who the greatest country singer of all time is? 95 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: Right, Well, Randy Galloway, one of my mentors, said, who's 96 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 2: the greatest country singer of all time? Of course I 97 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: don't know any any of them, so I say, I 98 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 2: say Kenny Rogers, like you know, the Gambler. I didn't 99 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: know what else to say, and Randy Galloway yells at me, 100 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: goes tov and boy, if you're going to live in 101 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: the state, you've got to understand one thing. There's only 102 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 2: one great country star, and that's Willie Nelson. Don't ever 103 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 2: forget that. So Willie Nelson is the greatest country star 104 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: of all time, because Randy Galloway told me he was well. 105 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: And at Billy Bob's last night, I saw Willie Nelson's 106 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: hand prints on the wall because each each performer who 107 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: sells it out does handprints into like concrete kind of thing, 108 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: and then they get a slab and they put it 109 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: up on the wall. And then I saw his signature 110 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: as well. It was an amazing experience and I wanted 111 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: to show you something. Can you give me one second? 112 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: I think you'll like this. Yes, oh, Jeff, hopefully this 113 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: doesn't bring back any bad memories. I just put on 114 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: a cowboy hat. Yeah, black cowboy hat that you know 115 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: went in Texas, Right, Jeff. 116 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 2: You look good in a cowboy hat. Remember, for our wedding, 117 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: which you were not there for, Thank goodness, we gave 118 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 2: our groomsmen cowboy hats as present. So at the you know, 119 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: at the rehearsal dinner, everyone was wearing a cowboy hat. 120 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: And I could say this without hesitation, Jeff, No one, 121 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: and I mean no one looks worse in a cowboy 122 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 2: hat than me. Back soon after we got married, Mom 123 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: took me to one of these country western places and 124 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: bought me some tight jeans which looked ridiculous, boots, a 125 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 2: belt buckle the size of a frozen pizza, a string tie, 126 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: and a cowboy hat, and she told me how great 127 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: I looked in that. And I am so short, and 128 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 2: the boots are so big, and the hat was so big, 129 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: and the belt buckle I looked like you just put 130 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: a hat on top of a belt buckle on top 131 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: of shoes. You couldn't even see me. I looked so bad. 132 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: It was so awful, But so I was not. I 133 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: was not born to live in Texas, but I repeat, 134 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: I had a tremendous time living. 135 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: There well in spirit of and this is the last 136 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: thing I'll make you do in spirit of the Academy 137 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: of Country Music Awards in Frisco, Texas. Can I get 138 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: a yeehaw? 139 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: Yeehaw? That's a good ye yhah, that's a good yeehaw? Sun? 140 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: What movie is that from? 141 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: That's from City Slicker? 142 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: Yes, one of my favorite last day. I would have 143 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 2: been Billy Crystal in City Slickers if they had cast 144 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: me in the movie. Although he could ride a horse 145 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: at the end. As we know, I've been on one 146 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: horse in my life, and that was a complete disaster. 147 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: I thought we were going thirty five miles an hour 148 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: across that field. As it turns out we were going 149 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: three miles an hour. I just didn't know how to 150 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: ride a horse. 151 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,679 Speaker 1: We we're so glad that we can do this podcast 152 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: no matter where we are, and I want to jump 153 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: right into the takeaways on our Thursday edition of It's 154 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: just a Great Game or what what do you Have? 155 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: Well, the Ale West the Rangers play is a complete 156 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: free for All four teams can win it, including the 157 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: Oakland A's, which is quite a story given how terrible 158 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: they were a couple of years ago and even the 159 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: beginning of last year. But they have straightened things out. 160 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: They're a really interesting team. And Jacob Wilson, there's shortstop 161 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: who we talked about on this podcast multiple times. Jeff 162 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 2: is having an amazing season. He's a rookie. He's hitting 163 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: three forty one, six walks, six strikeouts in one hundred 164 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: and forty five played appearances. That's unbelievable. Now, Jeff, do 165 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: you know where he went to college. He went to 166 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: Grand Canyon University, where you wife saw him, a wonderiful wife, 167 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: Emily went to school. And he is the son of 168 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: Jack Wilson, who played shortstop for the Pirates for a 169 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 2: bunch of years. I used to love to watch Jack 170 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: Wilson play at this incredible release. He could really throw 171 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 2: on the run, and his son is going to be 172 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: even better than Jack Wilson, which is really saying something. 173 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: You know what they say at Grand Canyon University lopes up? 174 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 2: Oh? Is that what they do? 175 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:03,239 Speaker 1: They're the antelopes. 176 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: Oh, they're little sub I love those little things, you know. 177 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: I know Rich Dolly, my dear friend, those all sorts 178 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: of people who went to Xavier and they go like this. 179 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: X U you. 180 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: That is so cool. 181 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: I would you know the amount of times you did 182 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: that to your son in law's brother, Mike. 183 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: Yes, every time I see him, I go like this, 184 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: x you. I love it all right. So Jacob Wilson 185 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: also has has played in sixty three games. He has 186 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: three walk off RBIs already, including one just the other day. 187 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: So just for a little context there, It really doesn't 188 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: mean that much, but Want Soto and Corey Seeger together 189 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 2: have three walkoff hits in their career and Jacob Wilson 190 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 2: has three in his first sixty three games. That's pretty impressive. 191 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: That is impresably. 192 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: The other thing that happened this week that I really 193 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 2: enjoyed is that Brett Boone, our friend, we went on 194 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: his podcast former major league second baseman and a really 195 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: good one. Brett Boone is the new hitting coach for 196 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: the Texas Rangers. Before we get to Brett, Jeff, I 197 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: told you at the beginning of the season the Rangers 198 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: I think are the best team in the American League 199 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: because they're the best offensive team in the American League. 200 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 2: And as of the other day, they were the worst 201 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: offensive team in the American League. Only in baseball can 202 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: this happen. So Brett Boone takes over as the hitting 203 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 2: coach Tuesday night. Of course, they win the first game 204 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: six to one. They get a bunch of hits, so 205 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: maybe there's something there. Brett Brooke Boone. Jeff brings an 206 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: arrogance to the clubhouse, and you know that's a compliment. 207 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: That's what really good players do. He walks in, he goes, 208 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: you know, why aren't we hitting. Let's go, and I'm 209 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 2: sure things are going to be I remember once Jeff, 210 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 2: he had a home run in the second deck at 211 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 2: the Safeco Field in Seattle, and I called him on 212 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: the phone because I was writing something on him for 213 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 2: ESPN the magazine. So I'm on the phone with him, 214 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: so I'm not face to face, so I said, Brett, understand, 215 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 2: you hit a ball in the second deck yesterday. He 216 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 2: screams at me, Well, I do that every day in 217 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 2: batting practice. If you ever came out of here, you 218 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 2: would see that like that, And he was being playful, 219 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: but at the same time he's trying to make it 220 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 2: clear that he goes up there all the time. So 221 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: this is great. This is great. Jeff a podcast, and 222 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: his job before he was the hitting coach was he 223 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: had his own podcast. 224 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: So are you telling me there's a chance, Yes. 225 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: I'm telling you that. Eduardo Perez, our dear friend, has 226 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 2: told me multiple times he will manage in the big 227 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: leagues someday if he wants to. Edwardo's had a bunch 228 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: of opportunities, he said, someday, Tim, I'm going to get 229 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: a managerial job, he said, and you're gonna be my 230 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: bench coach. And of course he was kidding, so I said, 231 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to be your bench coach. At Edwardo goes, yeah, 232 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 2: you could tell a bunch of funny stories to the 233 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 2: players in between innings. That that would be my role 234 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: as the bench coach is to make the players laugh 235 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: with a bunch of funny baseball stories in between innings. 236 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: I did not know that's what bench coaches did. 237 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: That sounds more like the team jester or mascot, right, Bencott, I. 238 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: Would be much closer to a mascot than the bench 239 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: coach for sure. And speaking of the Rangers, Josh Smith 240 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 2: played first base Tuesday night for the Rangers. Josh Smith 241 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 2: is from LSU. He's a really good player. He can 242 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 2: play every position on the field, essentially another guy who 243 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 2: really throws so well on the run, and he's become 244 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: a pretty good hitter. So the other Tuesday night he 245 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: played first base, his third start ever at first base, 246 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 2: and they hit a line drive to him. And again 247 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: he's a great defensive player. They hit a line drive 248 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 2: to him, and that first baseman's mitt is so big, 249 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 2: and when you're a shortstop, third baseman and now you're 250 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: playing first base, it's a really uncomfortable feel. He caught it, 251 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 2: and then he didn't even realize that it would in 252 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: his first baseman's minute, he's looking around for the ball 253 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 2: and he looked at it and there it was. This 254 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 2: just shows you how precise these players are. They're used 255 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 2: to having a glove that fits so perfectly on their hand. 256 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: And now he's wearing a first baseman's mitt, which is 257 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: like having a tennis racket on your hand instead of 258 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 2: a baseball glove. And he didn't even know he caught it. 259 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: I'll never forget when Nomar Garcia Para. Of course it 260 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: was a shortstop grown up moved first base briefly. Occasionally 261 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: he would use his fielder's glove at first base instead 262 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 2: of a first baseman mitt because he didn't feel comfortable 263 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: having that big piece of leather on his hand. 264 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: I mean that it is a big change, but I 265 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: would be more scared to wear that at first base. 266 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: Well, he was just comfortable, this is my glove. I'm 267 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 2: gonna wear it at first base, and he did. And 268 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: speaking of shortstops, Jeff, I'm dazzled every night when I 269 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: watch games at the athleticism and the credible skill, especially 270 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 2: by our middle infielders. So through Tuesday, Nick Allen of 271 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 2: the Braves had played in twenty eight games at shortstop, 272 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 2: twenty six starts and had not made an error. Chef 273 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 2: twenty six straight games and shortstop without an error, and 274 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: he's one reason the Braves have made a comeback here, 275 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 2: as he has solidified defensively shortstop Mason Win of the 276 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: Cardinals through Tuesday, twenty six games at shortstop twenty five starts, 277 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: zero errors. Two guys who have started twenty five or 278 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: more games without an error at shortstop, Chef, there are 279 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: a lot of ways you can make it errors a 280 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: shortstop and Dansby Swanson, who's so so good thirty seven 281 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: games through Tuesday, thirty seven starts one error. So if 282 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: anyone doesn't appreciate the skill and the talent of our 283 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 2: middle infielders in the big leagues, you need to watch 284 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: a few more games, because those guys are amazing. 285 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: All right, Dad, let's jump right in the quirt gins 286 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: you have today. 287 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: Yes, So I was looking up a few things a 288 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 2: Tuesday night, and I found that four different teams do 289 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: not have a home run from a third baseman. And 290 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: we were to May the sixth. Last time we went 291 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: back as far as you know anywhere with four teams 292 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: not having a home run from the third basement was 293 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: in two thousand and seven. I called Frank from the 294 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: Elias and he confirmed that right away. By the way, 295 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: I've asked Frank from the Elias to come on and 296 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: be one of our guests, and he has agreed to do. 297 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: So that's a good idea, right dad. 298 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: So many people have messages us on social media at 299 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: great game or what saying, who is Frank from the 300 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: Alias and can we meet him? Right? Well, we are 301 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: going to as he's as mysterious as Tim the Toolman's neighbor. 302 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: All right, well we are going to get Frank on 303 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: the show soon. But the beauty of this curious question, 304 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: I asked the A's, the Rays, the Phillies, and the 305 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: Cubs through May the sixth, did not have a going 306 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 2: into May six did not have a home run for 307 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: the third basement. I send this to Frank and literally 308 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: ten seconds later, Alec Bohm, third basement for the Phillies, 309 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 2: hit his first homer of the season ten seconds later. 310 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: So I later messaged Frank, oh, thanks for the information. 311 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: Alec Bom just hit a homer ten seconds after I 312 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: asked you, and he goes, of course he did. That's 313 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: how baseball works, That's why it's such a beautiful game. 314 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: He knew. Alec Bohm knew that you were talking about it. 315 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: He said, I don't want to be on that list. 316 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: Of course. Absolutely. So. Also Tuesday night, the Giants scored 317 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: nine runs I watched all nine of them in the 318 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: eleventh inning against the Cubs, So that's it. Wrigley Field 319 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: has been opened since nineteen fourteen, and that's the most 320 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: run scored in any extra inning in the history of ballpark, 321 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: which is now one hundred and eleven years old. Jevin, 322 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 2: don't forget. Earlier this year, the Diamondbacks and the Cubs 323 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: scored sixteen runs in the eighth inning, most runs scored 324 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: by both teams in one inning in the history of 325 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: Wrigley Field. So here we are now, we're at May 326 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 2: the eighth and two things have already happened at Wrigley 327 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 2: Field that had never happened there a ballpark that opened 328 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 2: in nineteen fourteen. That stuff just fascinates me. 329 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: Jeff, am I wrong, No, I think it's historic those 330 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: of Fenway Park, right, those of old Yankee Stadium when 331 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: things happen there that have never happened before, which we 332 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: shouldn't be saying anymore, by the way, because the game 333 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: has been around for a billion years and you've been 334 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: here for most of that. It just it really does 335 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: fascinate me. 336 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 2: It does a lot of things fascinate me. So Tyler Stevenson, 337 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 2: catcher for the Red struck out five times the other night. Jeffy, 338 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 2: you know how interested I am in high strikeout totals, 339 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 2: not to make fun of people, just to show o 340 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 2: people how difficult it is to hit in today's game. 341 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 2: So this is the fifth time this season that someone 342 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 2: has struck out five times in a game. So the 343 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: record for five strikeout individual five strikeout games before June 344 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: is seven done in twenty twenty three and six times 345 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen. I have a good feeling by the 346 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 2: time we get to June, we're going to have eight 347 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: players who have struck out five or more times in 348 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: a game. And I repeat, jee get different time, different era. 349 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: But Bill Buckner, one of the most underrated players ever, 350 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: and Mike Sosha never struck out three times in a 351 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: game and they were accomplished major leaguers. And we have 352 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: five guys this year who have struck out five times 353 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: in a game. 354 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: You know, Dad, I found on social media. So we're 355 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: going to get to from Ozzie to Oral a little 356 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,959 Speaker 1: bit later in the show. Today you're going to give 357 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: us the best number thirteen and the best number fourteen 358 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: of all time. But on social media, and I wanted 359 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: to just slide this into the cork gins to see 360 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: if you knew this, Did you know who shares a birthday? 361 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: Would stand usual? 362 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: Well, yes, Keith r. Nandez has the same No, Keith 363 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: and Nanda says, the same birthday as Mickey Mannon. No, 364 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: I don't know who shares a birthday with Stan. 365 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: Muzio Ken Griffey Junior. 366 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 2: Oh, that's they're both from DeNora, Pennsylvania, right. 367 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: And they're both born in the same town in Pennsylvania, and. 368 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: They're two of the greatest hitters of all time. 369 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: That is the only reason why I brought that up 370 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: is because we had somebody on social media said, I'm 371 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: not sure if this is a cork gin, but I 372 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: wanted to share it with you guys, and I thought 373 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: it was so cool because not only are they born 374 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: on the same day obviously like forty nine years apart, 375 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: but they're also from the same town, which is just crazy. 376 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 2: Right, and two of the greatest baseball players of all time. 377 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: Last thing, Jeff, we did not have a player named 378 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: Caleb play in the major leagues. Unusual first name twenty fourteen, 379 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: when Caleb Joseph made his major league debut for the Orioles. 380 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: Caleb Joseph, by the way, Jeff was the catcher in 381 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 2: the game in twenty fifteen in which there were no 382 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: fans allowed in the stands because of the rioting in Baltimore, 383 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: so they had to keep everyone safe. So they played 384 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 2: a major league game with no fans in the stands. 385 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 2: And I covered that game and Caleb Joseph was the catcher. 386 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 2: He's wicked smart, He is really funny, and we're going 387 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 2: to get him on the podcast one of these days 388 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: because he's that good. So he told me after the 389 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 2: game just how odd it was, how quiet it was 390 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 2: in the ballpark because there were no fans there. So 391 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: he says, I'm catching in the game and I can 392 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: hear the announcements in the press box, like attention press. 393 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 2: That was Chris Davis's first home run since whatever, you know, 394 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: since April the fourth or whatever it was. And Caleb 395 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 2: Joseph told me he's behind the plate in a major 396 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: league game and he can hear the announcements that he's 397 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 2: saying to himself, Wow, that's really interesting. I didn't know 398 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: that he's catching a big league game and he can 399 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: hear the public address Announoger Buck show Waalller in that game. 400 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: By the way, he told me that, he said, we 401 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 2: didn't even need the bullpen phone to call down to 402 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: get a reliever up. I just stepped outside of the 403 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: dug out of yell because it was so quiet in 404 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 2: the ballpark. The point of all this, Jeff, is we 405 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: had a Caleb Caleb pictures of Record the other day, 406 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: Caleb Fieldbar Caleb Ferguson where the pictures of record in 407 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 2: a major league game. So we didn't have a Caleb 408 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 2: until twenty fourteen, and now we have Caleb versus Caleb 409 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 2: in the pictures of Record. These are the. 410 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: Things waiting patiently. That is, like you had mentioned that 411 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: Caleb is a rare name. It's not like Braxton or something. 412 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's not that out there. We've had Caleb's around. 413 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, just go look at the just go look at 414 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 2: the pictures the pictures of record every day, and just 415 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 2: go look at the names that we see today. They're 416 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 2: the most bizarre names ever. It's just tremendous. 417 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: Are you sure you're able to judge with a last 418 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 1: name like what we had. 419 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: Well, first name last last names are different. First names, yeah, 420 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 2: first names are a little bit different. We had a 421 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: guy named Lion Pitch the other night, Lion Richardson, and 422 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: we had a guy named Lake Pitch the other night. 423 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 2: And they're their first names. So that's great, Dad. 424 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: What do you have from on this date in baseball history? 425 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: Okay, nineteen ninety two, Butch Henry, a pitcher for the Astros, 426 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 2: got his first major league hit, and it was a 427 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 2: home run, a three run homer, and it was an 428 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 2: inside the park home run. So here he a pitcher, 429 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: gets his first hit. It's not just a homer, it's 430 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: an inside the park home run. And of course it's 431 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: the only home run that he ever hit in his 432 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 2: major league career, and it was an inside the park. 433 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: And if I'm not mistaken, each Duro never hit an 434 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: inside the park home. 435 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: Run except in the All Star Game exactly. 436 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: I was gonna say that was a little you have that? 437 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: Did I interrupt and take a good note out of 438 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: your pocket? 439 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: I did have that. That's okay, But you know who 440 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: has hit an inside the park home run? Each Euro 441 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: hasn't in a regular season game, but Prince Fielder did. 442 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: How did you know that? Jeff, you are now completing 443 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 2: my sentences. I have corrupted you so badly. You're starting 444 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 2: to think, like me, that's not good. 445 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: Jeff. Well, when JT. Real Muto hit an inside the 446 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: park home run during the playoffs a couple of years back, 447 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: I got very curious about inside the park home runs, 448 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: and that's when I started kind of diving down the 449 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: rabbit hole to see those facts. So there we go. 450 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: Wait to go, Jeff, I'm really proud of you. And 451 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 2: the other thing was, and I've never actually finished, I've 452 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 2: never actually followed up on this story. But in nineteen fifty, 453 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 2: Lloyd Allen Pitcher was born. So Bobby Valentine told me 454 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 2: once that his best friend, Bill Buckner, whose name has 455 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 2: come up twice now in this podcast, Bill Buckner was 456 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 2: always resentful that Lloyd Allen got picked ahead of him 457 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 2: in the draft. So Bobby and Buck are best friends 458 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 2: and they're playing in a minor league game and Lloyd 459 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: Allen is pitching, and boy, I hope I've got this right, 460 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 2: Bobby told me. So I'm just quoting him. I never 461 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 2: called Lloyd Allen and I never asked Bill Buckner about it, 462 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: but I trust Bobby. Bobby said that Bill Buckner said, 463 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to hit a line drive off this guy's 464 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 2: head because I'm so mad that he got picked ahead 465 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 2: of me and then he hit a line drive and 466 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: hit Lloyd Allen right in the head. Now, Lloyd Allen 467 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: was fine, So we're not trying to make fun or 468 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: pull fun at somebody's injury. We never do that. That's 469 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 2: what Bobby Valenti told me about Lloyd Allen and Bill Bucker. 470 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 2: So every time I see Lloyd Allen's name, that's the story. 471 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 2: I think he was born on this date in nineteen fifty. 472 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: And coming up next on is this a great game? 473 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 2: Or what? 474 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: Dad? You're gonna give us number thirteen and number fourteen 475 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: the best players to wear those numbers from Ozzie to Oral. 476 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: We're also going to go into the best of all Tim, 477 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: so our Brewers fans out there are going to hear 478 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: who my dad thinks is the greatest brewer of all time? 479 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: A special I am a seam heead and then team 480 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: Tim versus Team Jeff. More of that. Coming up next 481 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: on is this a great game? 482 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 2: Or what. 483 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: Welcome back to? Is this a great game? 484 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: Or what? 485 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: Let's die right in? From Ozzie to orl the best 486 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: players to wear each number. We start at number thirteen today. 487 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 2: Right now, this was not easy. I picked Alex Rodriguez, 488 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: who started his career wearing number three. Three. He was 489 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: a better player at three than he was at thirteen, 490 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 2: but he was pretty darn good at thirteen. Won two 491 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: MVPs in the twelve years that he wore number thirteen. 492 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: So hesitantly I am choosing him above Omar Viskel, Dave Concepcion, 493 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 2: and Manny Machado, who I think at this time next 494 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 2: year I'm going to have to replace because he will 495 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: then have played fifteen years in the league wearing number thirteen. 496 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 2: But I'm going with Alex Rodriguez. Now, he was a 497 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: great player, Let's forget all the other stuff he did. 498 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 2: But Jeff, when I went to England a couple of 499 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 2: years ago to cover that game in England, Michael Kay 500 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 2: is doing the play by play and Alex Rodriguez is 501 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 2: the color guy, and I'm the dugout reporter. So one 502 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 2: of my jobs the day before the game was to 503 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: do the man about town kind of thing. And this 504 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: is probably the best moment I ever had with Alex Rodriguez. 505 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 2: All Right, So I'm interviewing people on the street and 506 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 2: I asked him I have to ask question, like you 507 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: ever heard of Alex Rodriguez? And like all the people 508 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 2: that like, first ten people have never heard of Alex Rodriguan. 509 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: So I get to the tenth person, I say, have 510 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 2: you ever heard of Alex Rodriguez? And he looks at me, 511 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 2: he goes, of course I have. Everyone knows who Alex 512 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: Rodriguez is, gives his whole background, and he goes started 513 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 2: his career with the Oakland A's, which of course he 514 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: didn't do. But this guy was so certain. So when 515 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: I told this story on the air to Michael Kay 516 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 2: and Alex Rodriguez, that is the most genuine laugh I've 517 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: ever gotten from a rod that this guy on the 518 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 2: street in London thought he started his career with the A's. 519 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 2: It was just beautiful. 520 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: That is incredible. That's your number thirteen, number fourteen, the 521 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: best player to wear that number. Who do you got? 522 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 2: Wow, this isn't even closes. It's Pete Rose four thousand, 523 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty six hits. Jeff just I know 524 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: this is a cliche. Now, if he played twenty years, 525 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: got two hundred hits a year, he would still be 526 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty six hit short. Of what he 527 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 2: finished with. He played twenty four years, more at bats, 528 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 2: more played appearances than anyone in Major league history when 529 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: the Rookie of the Year won an MVP. And you know, 530 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 2: you could say what you like about Pete, but there's 531 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 2: never been anybody quite like Pete. So in the mid eighties, 532 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: I'm working for the Dallas Morning News, right around the 533 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 2: corner from where you are right now, and Pete comes 534 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 2: in for a baseball card show and I go to 535 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 2: interview him because Pete Rose is in our town. So 536 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: I'm with him for like thirty seconds, and I sit 537 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 2: down and explain who I am and what I'm doing, 538 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 2: and he looks at me and he goes, I bet 539 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 2: you didn't know that I played in more winning games 540 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 2: than Joe Namaggio played in games. He had looked that 541 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 2: up on his own. Again, Debagio played thirteen years, Pete 542 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: Rose played twenty four. But still that was the stat 543 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 2: he came up with. And I'm going to tell this 544 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 2: story again, Jeff, but the only story you need to 545 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: know about Pete Rose is that he went to prison 546 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 2: for tax evasion, was in prison for four months. He 547 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: comes out, He's forty seven years old and his son, 548 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: Pete Junior, comes to pick him up at the prison 549 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: and he says to Pete Junior, first thing he says 550 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: when he gets out of prison. He says, is they're 551 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 2: bat and cage near here, And his son goes, yeah, 552 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 2: there's one right down the street. So they go to 553 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: the batting cage. Pete goes to the proprietor and says, 554 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 2: what's fast machine you have here? And he goes right 555 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: there eighty five miles an hour. So Pete gets in 556 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 2: the cage. At this point, everyone at the batting cage 557 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: recognizes the hit king is in the batting cage. So 558 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: forty seven years old, incarcerated for four months. First thing 559 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: he does, go to batting cage. First pitch at eighty 560 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 2: five comes in and he whistles the line drive right 561 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 2: back at the pitching machine, absolute textbook swing. He looks 562 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 2: at all the people gathered around the batting cage. He 563 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 2: takes his bat, throws it to the ground, says some 564 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: things never f and change, and then he walks away. 565 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 2: So amazing. That's all you need to know about Pete 566 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: Rose is that's what he could do, even at age 567 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 2: forty seven. 568 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: Every single Thursday we do the best of all. Tim 569 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: we stop at each organization and Dad, you give us 570 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: the best player to play for that team, and today 571 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: the Milwaukee. 572 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 2: Brewers, right, so the Brewers the greatest player. And I'm 573 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: not sure this question about this, with all due respect 574 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 2: Paul Molder, who was so great, but Robyn spent his 575 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 2: entire twenty year career with the Brewers. Jeff, he was 576 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: an everyday shortstop in the big leagues at age eighteen. 577 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 2: You could barely tie your shoes when you were eighteen. 578 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 2: He was a big league shortstop. He won two MVPs. 579 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 2: One is a shortstop. One as a center fielder, had 580 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 2: three thousand hits. He's one of the great players that 581 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 2: I was ever around. And Jeff, I'll never forget. Dan 582 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: Pleazax is a very funny guy, but a really good guy. 583 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: Teammate of Robygnet once and he told me this story. 584 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 2: He says, before a game, Robyn has a bruise on 585 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: his leg. That is the most hideous thing he's ever seen. Please, act, 586 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 2: tells me. And he says, well, there's no way Robin 587 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 2: is playing tonight. So he sees the lineup card and 588 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 2: Robyn out is in there. And Dan, please act during 589 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 2: infield or in this case shagging balls in the outfield, 590 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 2: says to robign Out, why are you playing today? You 591 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 2: are too injured to play. And Robgnut looks at Dan 592 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 2: please act and says, when you were a kid, did 593 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: you ever fake an illness? So you got to stay 594 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: home from school? And Dan please, that goes yeah, you 595 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 2: should do that all the time. And robyn Out said, 596 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 2: remember how much easier it was the second time after 597 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 2: you did it correctly the first time, And Dan please, 598 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 2: that goes yeah, it was a lot easier to fake 599 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 2: it the second time. So Robgnett looked a him and said, 600 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 2: don't ever do it the first time. So that is 601 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 2: a great reminder of the durability that it takes to 602 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 2: play in the big leagues and the discipline it takes 603 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 2: to play in the big league. So never ever forget 604 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 2: what a gamer on every level Robignyanut. 605 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: Was, Dad, I am a seam heead We do this 606 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: every single week every Thursday when we bring somebody who 607 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: claims to be a seam head. And you can send 608 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: us your audio portions. You can email me Jeff at 609 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: great Game or dot com just a voice memo, end 610 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: it with your name, and I am a seam head 611 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: and I'm excited to bring in friend of the show, 612 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: Susie Hunter. She's the Rockies reporter for Gorilla Sports. You 613 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: can follow her and she has her own podcast, but 614 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: you can follow her as well for all her baseball 615 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: covers at the Susie Hunter on all platforms. Dad our 616 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: first female seam ahead, and she's got quite a story 617 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: to tell. Let's listen. 618 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 3: Baseball is by far my favorite sport because it has 619 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 3: a chaos factor that other sports just can't give you. 620 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 3: It's the ballpark. It's the ultimate cathedral of sports, but 621 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 3: literally every field of play across the game is different. 622 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 3: You hit a ball one way and it's an out, 623 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 3: and another ballpark gets a home run. I'm obsessed with 624 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 3: the concept of the ballpark that in the summer of 625 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, I drove to all of them, legit 626 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 3: one season, all thirty ballparks. Seeing the Mahal back to 627 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 3: back to back was surreal because they're really all a 628 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 3: world of their own. And after seeing all of them, 629 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 3: I ended up staying in Colorado. That high elevation air 630 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,719 Speaker 3: it sends the ball flying and disrupts pitches. It knocks 631 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 3: the wind out of anyone running the bases. Every game 632 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 3: at Corus Field is a chance to see one of 633 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 3: the weirdest games of your life. And that's baseball. Even 634 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 3: when you think you know what to expect, the game 635 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 3: gives us so much unpredictability. My name is Susie Hunter, 636 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 3: and I'm a seatmad. 637 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: Every single Major League baseball stadium. Dat pretty cool, right. 638 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really great, jem And she's not the only 639 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 2: female seat I've met a bunch of them, and it's 640 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 2: so good to see. I told you. I was at 641 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 2: the Safe Way a few years ago and one of 642 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 2: the housewives from the neighborhood came up to me and 643 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 2: like tackled me in the frozen food aisle and said, 644 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, it's you. She said, I love the Nationals. 645 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: She's fifty five years old. She says, I love the Nationals. 646 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 2: I can't do anything now but watch the game. I 647 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 2: never miss a pitch. I finally got it, she said, 648 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 2: I love it. I can't miss anything. Then she looks 649 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,720 Speaker 2: at me and she goes, this is how you felt 650 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 2: your whole life, isn't it? And I said, yes, this 651 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 2: is it. Not the point. The point is I love 652 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 2: what Susie has done here. And I did a speech 653 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati at Moeller High School in January, and I 654 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 2: met a fellow who had been one hundred and sixty 655 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 2: seven stadiums in his minor leagues, of course, and he said, 656 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 2: he's the kind of guy that he and his buddy 657 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 2: will see that there's an independently stadium opening, you know, 658 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 2: six hours away, and they just jump in their car 659 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 2: and go see it. Susie's absolutely right. The beauty of 660 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 2: all of this, Jeff, is every stadium is different, every 661 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 2: ballpark plays differently. And that's the difference between the NBA 662 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 2: and the and the NFL. I mean, you don't have 663 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 2: to go to all the NBA arenas to get the 664 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 2: character because all the arena floors and all the NBA 665 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 2: NFL fields are the same size. They have to be. 666 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 2: But the beauty of baseball is walking around in a 667 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,720 Speaker 2: new stadium and looking for all the nooks and crannies 668 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 2: and all the odd little things there. So Susie, we 669 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 2: love you, And to anyone who wants to send in 670 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 2: a steam head, believe me, we need you more than 671 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 2: you need us. We need help on this because I 672 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 2: know there are a zillion seam heads out there. Just 673 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 2: send something to Jeff and we'll get it on the air. 674 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: Dad, I love this. Email me Jeff at Great Game 675 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: or what dot com. Susie, thank you again for being 676 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: a part of it. Dad. We're bringing back our strap 677 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: sims for this week because last week on our Thursday episode, 678 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: I kind of out of nowhere said, wow, we got 679 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: to do a best of all Tim team Tim and 680 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: best of all Jeff team Jeff. So, Dad, you and 681 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: I put together our own teams. First name Tim for 682 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: your team, First name Jeff or Jeffrey for my team. Dad, 683 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: do you want to go through your team? 684 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,439 Speaker 2: Yes, Tim, I'm gonna do this quickly because we don't 685 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 2: have all day. My catcher is Tim McCarver at Trouble 686 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 2: at first base. Tim Corkoran's my first baseman, Tim Toughel 687 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 2: at second, Tim Wallach at third. He was a really 688 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 2: good player. Tim Anderson, former Batting champion at shortstop, Hall 689 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 2: of Famer, Tim Rains. In the outfield, Tim Salmon, who 690 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 2: also went to Grand Canyon Universe. 691 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 1: GCU two matches for the Lopes Up Right. 692 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 2: Lopes Up XU. Tim Lecastro is one of my outfielders. 693 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 2: I just love him. He's gets hit by a pitch 694 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 2: more than when we miss him in the big leagues. 695 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 2: At the moment, Tim Keith Hall of Favor from the 696 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 2: eighteen hundreds is my first pitcher. I've got Tim Hudson, 697 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 2: by the way, Jeff Tim Hudson the first two eighteen 698 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 2: inning games in the history of the postseason, first two, 699 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 2: the only two. We're both started by Tim Hudson. They 700 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 2: think about that, how could that happen? Tim Linscombe pretty 701 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 2: darn good. Third started for my team. Tim Wakefield, the 702 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 2: late Tim Wakefield started more games as a more games 703 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 2: for the Red Sox than any starting pitcher in the 704 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 2: history of the franchise. That's unbelievable. And Tim Belcher, who 705 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 2: I covered for a long time my bullpen not as good. 706 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 2: Tim Stoddard, Tim Herron now with the Guardians really good. 707 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 2: Tim Burke pitched for the Expos, had a very odd delivery. 708 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 2: That's my team, Tim. 709 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: I'm going to take you through Team Jeff, and then 710 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: we're going to go into the strat sim of who 711 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 1: would win with their team in a seven game series. 712 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: So my catcher's Jeff mathis right. Jeff Bagwell Hall of 713 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: Famer at first. Jeff Kent is my second baseman. Third 714 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 1: base is Jeff Cirillo. Shortstop is Jeff blauser, Jeff Burrows 715 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 1: in the outfield Jeff Frank Corps former guests of the show. 716 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 1: Had to put him in my outfield, of course, and 717 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: Jeff Conine also an outfield. Jeff Leonard is Jeffree Leonard. 718 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,280 Speaker 2: But we're gonna give you Jeff Leonard. He was famous 719 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 2: as Jeffrey Leonard, but he was a really good player 720 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 2: and he's on your team. Good call. 721 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: I thought you weren't going to catch. That's why I 722 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: said at the beginning, all. 723 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,479 Speaker 2: Tim Jeffrey, Yes, it's all good. 724 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: Jeff Weaver is my first starting pitcher, and then we 725 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: have Jeff Samarja right, also a starting pitcher for me. 726 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: Jeff Francis, Jeff reardan Jeff Brantley in my pen. And 727 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: are we ready for the results That. 728 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 2: The smile on your face is telling everything. I thought 729 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 2: these teams were pretty well matched, pretty evenly matched, and 730 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 2: I thought I had a chance to win based on 731 00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 2: the strength of my starting pitching. 732 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: What do you got so our friends at Stratumatic, they 733 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: are the market leader in sports simulations. They have taken 734 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 1: these two teams and they have put them against each 735 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 1: other in a seven game series, and he says, which 736 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 1: team is better Tim or Jeff? And this is ultimately 737 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 1: what happened, Dad. In six games, team Tim is victorious. 738 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 2: I told you, Jeff, you challenged the master on the 739 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 2: stupid team Tim lists and you lost. Now what do 740 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:29,959 Speaker 2: you have to say to your dad? 741 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:31,320 Speaker 1: I'm sorry? 742 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 2: All right? Who was my star? Tim Rains? 743 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: Who was Tim McCarver. Tim added four hundred in the 744 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: six game series with two home runs three RBIs Tim Anderson, 745 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: six RBIs over the series. And your late addition, Tim Corkoran, 746 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 1: you did have a different first base. 747 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 2: I had Tim Tolman, I had a couple others, and 748 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 2: I've changed Tim Corkoran at the last minute. 749 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: Three sixty four, two home runs, five RBIs a great 750 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: addition to the team. I don't think you're winning that game. 751 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,280 Speaker 1: I don't think you're winning the s. 752 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 2: Without Tim and a last minute change. How about that? 753 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: Tim Keith, your starting pitcher, won both of the games 754 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,240 Speaker 1: for the four point nine to six ERA. On my side, 755 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: Jeff Burrows, Jeff former. 756 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 2: MVP by the way of the American League. 757 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 1: Batted three eighty nine, Jeff kent two home runs in 758 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: the series, seven RBIs batted three oh four and uh, well, 759 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: we had a Jeff Brantley eleven and a third innings 760 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: pitch only gave up three hits, zero runs in five games. 761 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 1: So Jeff Brantley out of my pen really locked it down. 762 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,879 Speaker 1: But it doesn't seem like I was able every game. 763 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: Dad was very very close, but ultimately you did pull 764 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: out the series win. 765 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 2: All right. So Jeff Brandley was my teammate at ESPN 766 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 2: for a long time. Loved working with the Cowboy. He 767 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 2: now does play by play and color on Reds games 768 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 2: and he's tremendous. Grew up Jeff as a big baseball player, 769 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 2: but he also loved broadcasters Mel Allen, and he's become 770 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 2: a really good broadcaster. So again, year years ago, I 771 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 2: think we were in I think we were I don't 772 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,760 Speaker 2: know where we were, but we were on a big 773 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 2: postseason trip and all the pas from ESPN were there, 774 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 2: and Jeff Brantley's taken all the young people out for 775 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 2: a night on the town because he's a former player 776 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 2: and he's the most generous man of the world. So 777 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 2: about halfway through the night, he looks at all the 778 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 2: assembled PA's and says, I need to borrow three thousand 779 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,800 Speaker 2: dollars from you guys because we're they're gambling, so they 780 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 2: like say we don't have it or whatever. So somehow 781 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 2: he scrounges up three thousand dollars and then goes to 782 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 2: like a casino and wins like ten thousand dollars. This 783 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 2: is so classic. Jeff Brantley, the ultimate cowboy, the ultimate gambler, 784 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 2: one of my all type favorite people, and a really 785 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 2: good addition to the all Jeff team. I'm sorry that 786 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 2: my team won, Jeff, but I again that starting pitching 787 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 2: was pretty good. 788 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 1: It was pretty good. And that was where at locked 789 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 1: down Dad. That is today's episode. We'll be back with 790 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 1: you next week with three two episodes Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. 791 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: Our guest for next week on the Wednesday episode will 792 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: be Steve Russian for end of the show. And I 793 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: think one of the greatest architects of the English language, 794 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: would you agree? 795 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 2: Look, Jeff, I tend to exaggerate. I'm not exaggerating here. 796 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 2: He is the greatest writer of all time. He is 797 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 2: my least, my favorite writer of all time. He is 798 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 2: maybe the smartest and the funniest person I've ever met 799 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,320 Speaker 2: in my life. At the same time, how many people 800 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 2: can you say that about? I don't think very many. 801 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 2: Steve Russian will be our guest and we're going to 802 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 2: keep him for an hour. I texted him yesterday about 803 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 2: joining an Ego's great. He says, total nonsense and a 804 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 2: million laughs. That's what it's going to be like with 805 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 2: Steve Russian. Total nonsense and a million laughs. 806 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: Oh, hold on, I just got an email out. It 807 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: looks like Stephen King has canceled due to your comments 808 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: about Steve Russian being the greatest writer of all time. 809 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: So Stephen King no longer an option as a guest. Dat. Sorry, 810 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: I'm just messing with you. 811 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 2: I know you're messing with me. Jeff, Look, I'm sorry, 812 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 2: all due respect. Steve Russian is a better writer than 813 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 2: Stephen Keaton. Sorry, Steve a better writer than anyone. 814 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: It's true. It's true. Well, Dad, I'm excited. I'm going 815 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: to wrap up things here in Dallas. The ACMs are 816 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,240 Speaker 1: on Thursday night, which is really cool on Amazon Prime, 817 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: so I'm going to be chatting with all the artists 818 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: and it's going to be a great time. Dad. I'll 819 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 1: see you next week. 820 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,320 Speaker 2: I see you next week. Ride that mechanical bull before 821 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 2: you come home. Otherwise, don't bother coming up, all right, 822 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 2: you got it. 823 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening, It is always. Thank you for 824 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 1: being a part of our family.