1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,159 Speaker 1: Hey, besties, Hello Sunshine. 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 2: Today on the bright Side, Denise Richards is with us. 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: She's making her return to Bravo in her new docuseries 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: Denise Richards and Her Wild Things, where she's giving you 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: the real deal on her home, happiness and Hollywood in 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: the nineties. 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 3: It's Tuesday, February twenty fifth. I'm Siman Boyce. 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 2: I'm Danielle Robe and this is the bright Side from 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: Hello Sunshine. Denise Richards has been a familiar face in 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 2: Hollywood since she first burst onto the scene in the nineties. 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 2: She starred in films like Starship Troopers and The World 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: Is Not Enough as a bond girl, and then of 13 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: course in Wild Things and we Can't Forget That Unforgettable 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: Love actually cameo. You know her as an actress, a model, 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: and a mom, and now she's coming back to TV 16 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: with a brand new look at her life, her whole life. 17 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 4: Listen. 18 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: She would be the first to admit that she has 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 3: been through a lot, and she's done it all in 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 3: the public eye. So today we're getting the full story 21 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 3: from Denise Richards herself. 22 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's bring it in. Denise, Welcome to the bright Side. 23 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me and we're so happy to 24 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 4: have you. 25 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: Okay, So your brand new reality show debuts tomorrow, and 26 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 3: it has been sixteen years since we followed your life 27 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: in Denise Richards. It's complicated. 28 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 4: Has it been that long? Does it feel like it's 29 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 4: been allow? 30 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 5: It doesn't because and it's so funny because my older 31 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 5: girls they were turning three and four when we started. 32 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 5: It's complicated and now and then I Alois wasn't even 33 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 5: boring yet, so to now see us, the older girls 34 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 5: are nineteen twenty and Alois is thirteen. But then also 35 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 5: I did Housewives in between, yes, which the girls weren't 36 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 5: on very much. 37 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 4: But so how are things going to be different this 38 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 4: time from when we did the first reality show? 39 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? 40 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 5: Oh gosh. Well, when the girls were so young, it 41 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 5: was they, you know, had to do what I told 42 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 5: them to do. 43 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 4: Still need to do what you tell them to do. Well, 44 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 4: you'd be surprised. 45 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 5: It's very different because it's the dynamic of with two 46 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 5: teenagers and Sammy who's now twenty. It is a very 47 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 5: different dynamic. 48 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 4: And now I'm married. I wasn't married when we. 49 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 5: Did the first reality show, So it's blending the family 50 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 5: and seeing a lot of familiar faces on there. It's 51 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 5: a lot of fun. My girls have no filter. There 52 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 5: are times where I'm almost like, oh, I wish you 53 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 5: wouldn't say that, or maybe don't, but they are themselves. 54 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 4: What do you hope to convey this time? 55 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: Is there something that you want to get across to 56 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: the audience that maybe challenges the perceptions that have been 57 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 3: out there about you, either in the tabloids or in 58 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 3: the media, anything like that. 59 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 5: No, I've had so much stuff said over the years 60 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 5: about our family, about myself. This was an opportunity for 61 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 5: us to do a show as a family together, and 62 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 5: it was a big decision and we all talked about 63 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 5: it and just we are who we are. Not everyone's 64 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 5: going to love watching us. Some people will love watching 65 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 5: us hopefully, and we're just on this journey of raising 66 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 5: kids in Hollywood and them adapting to that too as adults, 67 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 5: and them sharing their experience and it's just, you know, 68 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 5: our family reality show. I you know, people will take 69 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 5: away from it whatever they can. There have been a 70 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 5: lot of stuff that's been written and said, But I'm like, whatever, 71 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 5: people won't believe in seeing whatever what they want. 72 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: Do you feel desensitized to it? 73 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 4: Almost at this point that I feel desensitized. 74 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 5: It's more about I used to be such a people pleaser, 75 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 5: and then when I went through my divorce with Charlie, 76 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 5: it really it was really difficult for me, and I 77 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 5: had to just kind of put myself on a bubble 78 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 5: from listening to stuff, and it really I was always 79 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 5: like cautious what I say in interviews and before my divorce, 80 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 5: and so after I thought, you know, I'm just going 81 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 5: to be my true, authentic self because I want to 82 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 5: be me people. It was the first time I went 83 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 5: through even having any bad press during that time, and 84 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 5: so I'm just gonna be myself, and so it's more 85 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 5: about being me, not everyone's gonna love you. Yeah, and 86 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 5: don't worry about all the negative comments. 87 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 4: It is what it is. 88 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: I can imagine that that time, like the bad press, 89 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: must have been so shocking, because when I was thinking 90 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 2: about your career last night, I was like, Okay, she 91 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 2: moved from Illinois. You were kind of naive, like you 92 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: had no I listened to your interview with Bethany Frankel, 93 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: like you said, you basically had no understanding of Hollywood 94 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: and the industry and it is a business, right and 95 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: you get here and you're very pretty, you know, and 96 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: so people take advantage. And I'm curious now that you 97 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: have three daughters that are in the industry with this 98 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: reality show, is there anything in particular that you really 99 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: want to shield them from. 100 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 5: I've been wanting to shield them since social media started 101 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 5: and trying to, you know, not have them on there 102 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 5: at all, and they would sneak and get on anyway, 103 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 5: and they figured out how to get their phone where 104 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 5: the parental control was often stuff. They're much smarter than 105 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 5: you think kids, but I wish actually my older daughters, 106 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 5: they are so much more confident, more savvy than I 107 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 5: was at their age, and I wish I had that 108 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 5: when I was their age. 109 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: Do you have any PTSD from those early years of Hollywood. 110 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 5: I wouldn't say PTSD. I think it's even through not 111 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 5: just the younger years. 112 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 4: Later too. 113 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 5: I've had stuff happen and go on, and I think 114 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 5: it's more about I can compartmentalize things and move on 115 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 5: and move forward. 116 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 4: It doesn't define who I am. 117 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,239 Speaker 5: It's just obviously there's such situations that I'm of course 118 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 5: very cautious or so I am overprotective of my daughters 119 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 5: and they even talk about it on the show. They 120 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 5: say it, but I it's because I know more than 121 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 5: they know, and I've experienced more than they have. And 122 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 5: so as any mom or dad with boys and girls 123 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 5: coming of age, it's really hard. 124 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: What would you say is the biggest thing that you 125 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 2: want them to take away from your experiences? 126 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 4: Well, just to always follow their gut. 127 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 5: And this is something my mom always told me, and 128 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 5: to listen to that guardian angel in that voice that's 129 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 5: telling you if something doesn't feel right to it. But 130 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 5: it is also such a different time than when I 131 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 5: grew up in the business. 132 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 4: I didn't there wasn't social media. 133 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 5: I feel that now there's just such you're so vulnerable 134 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 5: even if you're not in the public and you're on 135 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 5: social media and you're out there. But obviously having parents 136 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,239 Speaker 5: that are in the public eye and doing a show 137 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 5: like this, they're going to be more out there. But 138 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 5: just I don't think I'll ever stop worrying as their parents. 139 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 4: Comes with the territory. 140 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 3: In one of the episodes of your reality show, it's 141 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 3: actually the first episode, you say that your kids have 142 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 3: a lot of explaining to do about their parents. 143 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 4: Tell me what you meant by that. 144 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 5: Well, all I need to say, I think is their 145 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 5: parents are Denise Richards and Charlie. 146 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 4: She Okay, that's your kids. 147 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: You can't clump Denise Richards and with Charlie. 148 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 4: She I agree with you. 149 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 5: Thank you for saying that I did cover up a 150 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 5: lot of stuff for them, protecting them, And they now 151 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 5: are sometimes get angry at me that I why didn't 152 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 5: I share this? 153 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 4: Why didn't I say anything? Because they find out about 154 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 4: it on their area. 155 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, and but I've told them as they've gotten older, 156 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 5: if you ever have any questions or just come to me. 157 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 5: But when they do discover things and they're like, why 158 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 5: wouldn't you say anything? Why didn't you tell us that? 159 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 5: What am I going to say at your age? Like 160 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 5: certain things? 161 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: You know? 162 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 5: So I said, there's no handbook for this, like I 163 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 5: did the best I could going through it. 164 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: You were doing your best, And I mean you brought 165 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: up your ex husband, Charlie Sheen, and I remember watching 166 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: his very public downfall, and I remember feeling so much 167 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 3: empathy for you as a wife and a mother going 168 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: through that. 169 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 4: How is he doing now? He's doing good? Yeah, yeah, no, 170 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 4: he's doing good. He's Uh. 171 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 5: That was the journey he had to take to go 172 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 5: through everything he did, and obviously it was so public 173 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 5: and it was very humiliating and embarrassing later now for 174 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 5: him and also for his kids. You don't sometimes I 175 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 5: think the kids were so young. But still I don't 176 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 5: think he was in the headspace of what were my 177 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 5: kids think? 178 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 4: But that's what addiction does to you, ack right. 179 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he's definitely in a much better place 180 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 5: now than he was back then, and it was difficult 181 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 5: on all the kids. 182 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 3: Well, we can't talk about family without talking about your 183 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 3: current husband, Aaron. You've been married since twenty eighteen. How 184 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 3: has this marriage healed you? 185 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 4: Well? I think I was keelled before I got married. 186 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 5: Otherwise I wouldn't have been in the place to get married, 187 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 5: and I didn't. I was never the type that had 188 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 5: to have a boyfriend, even when I was younger, in 189 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 5: my twenties and when I started dating, I was never 190 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 5: that girl. And so when after my divorce, which was 191 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 5: incredibly painful, and it wasn't just like the divorce was 192 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 5: done and over, it was we still were and art 193 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 5: in each other's lives because we do have kids, and 194 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 5: a lot of stuff actually happened after our divorce that 195 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 5: I was trying to help Charlie with, and especially during 196 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 5: the time when all that stuff was so public, and 197 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 5: so I wasn't in a place to be in a relationship. 198 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 5: I was so consumed with taking care of our kids, 199 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 5: and there was a period when I was helping take 200 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 5: care of his kids. So that's where my focus was 201 00:09:54,760 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 5: so as time and me just you know, healing from 202 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 5: all of that. I think that's when I was in 203 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 5: a good place to attract a man like Aaron, who 204 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 5: is very opposite from my ex and in a very 205 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 5: different and so this is no disrespect to Charlie. 206 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 4: He was different when we got married, but. 207 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 5: He's been such a wonderful, you know, person and human 208 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 5: and husband, and he's a great step dad and a 209 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 5: great dad to Eloise. 210 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: Does Charlie give you credit for all that? 211 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 2: Like hearing you just say you took care of his 212 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: kids at some point like that's you have to have 213 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 2: a lot of space in your heart for that. 214 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 5: I think there have been a couple thank yous over 215 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 5: the years, but not in death, not enough. It sounds 216 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 5: like we didn't have that sit down conversation like Hay, 217 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 5: but that's not Charlie. 218 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 4: I think it's actually probably hard for him too. 219 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 5: He's not the warm and fuzzy I was always the 220 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 5: warm and fuzzy person. 221 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 4: And I'll joke around with him more. 222 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 5: He jokes around too, but it takes a little bit 223 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 5: for us to get on the loosen ofp of it. 224 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 5: He and I do, though, have a sense of humor 225 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 5: about yeah, because it's so bad that we have to. 226 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 3: That's huge, having a sense of humor and marriages everything. 227 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 4: We laugh at it. 228 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: So but where did that come from for you? Like, 229 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: if you're not doing it for thanks, which it's clear 230 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: you're not. 231 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 4: I think it came from my mom. 232 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 5: My mom was such a great woman that she was 233 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 5: always so fair about everything, and a lot of my 234 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 5: ex boyfriends before she passed, they would still call her 235 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 5: for advice and she just was that woman. And so 236 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 5: I've learned a lot from her and from my dad. 237 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 5: And my mom was always a big advocate of doing 238 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 5: things for the kids. Sometimes people would judge me so 239 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 5: much when I was trying to help Charlie and be there, 240 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 5: But it's truly I want him to be the best 241 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 5: version of himself for our kids and for his kids 242 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 5: because I have such an amazing relationship with my dad, 243 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 5: and I want that for all the kids. 244 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: You know, do you ever have a longing for that, 245 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: like to give your kids the upbringing that you had, 246 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: which was this very like quintessential simple Midwest upbringing and 247 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: like you guys have had a whole different life. 248 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 5: When my kids were really little, right after Lola was born, 249 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 5: my mom, I'll never forget her saying this, she said 250 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 5: to me, you need to let. 251 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 4: Go of the white pick of unds. 252 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 5: She said that, she said that, and I was like, Okay, 253 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 5: she goes, it's never going to be that. It's don't 254 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 5: try to have it's not. You know, your kids are 255 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 5: growing up very differently, and it's okay. But I will 256 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 5: say pre pandemic. A couple years prior to that, I 257 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 5: did want to move out of California. But it's hard 258 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 5: with our job to move out of state. And in hindsight, 259 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 5: I really wish I did. I wish I raised my 260 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 5: kids somewhere else. You grew up in Illinois. Grew up 261 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 5: in Illinois, I. 262 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 4: Was born here. I moved around all all over the place, Denise, 263 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 4: But okay, don't count I'm joking. Yeah, a Miami. 264 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 3: Miami is like where I spent my childhood. It was 265 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 3: actually a great place to grow up. 266 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 5: But it's it's different here, and I always would try 267 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 5: to defend, Oh no, it's you know, the family you 268 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 5: make while you're here. But if they were younger, I 269 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 5: would have moved them out. But they're doing good. They 270 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 5: actually have a huge They have a good head on 271 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 5: their shoulders, much more than I did when I moved here. 272 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: That's awesome. 273 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 4: I was so naive. 274 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: I was too, I guess I think that's why I 275 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: asked you that question. 276 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 4: Moved here. I was twenty two, okay. 277 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: And I think I asked you that question about like, 278 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: do you have PTSD from moving here? 279 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: Because I have a little bit of it. 280 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 4: I think you do. 281 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean not in the like diagnostic sense, but 282 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: just it's different. It's so different, and I I didn't 283 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: understand people's intentions, and I like, I remember the guy 284 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 2: that was cutting my hair tried to sleep with me 285 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 2: and I called my mom crying, and I was like 286 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 2: even the hairdressers like has weird morals. 287 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: It was just like so disorienting. 288 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 4: It is different. 289 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 5: And for me what I remember because we moved here 290 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 5: when I was fifteen, my dad got a job trends 291 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 5: or he used to work for Illinois Bell, which was 292 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 5: a long time ago, and the girls were just so mean. 293 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 5: I'm sure and they are. And when we say we're 294 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 5: going to meet someone for dinner or lunch, we're there 295 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 5: five minutes early, or we don't just not show up 296 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 5: at all, and like, oh, I didn't know we were 297 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 5: still going. Well, we said we were going, Why do 298 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 5: we need to also confirm like five minutes before. 299 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: Totally. 300 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 5: That was the thing that was hard for me to 301 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,239 Speaker 5: get used to moving to California. 302 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: People I'm sure would like cancel your meetings the day out, and. 303 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 5: You didn't know sometimes because it wasn't re re reconfirmed. 304 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 5: So now I know we have to re reconfirm everything. 305 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 3: We've got to take a quick break, but don't go anywhere. 306 00:14:53,720 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 3: We'll be right back with Denise Richards. And we're back 307 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 3: with Denise Richards. Well, you also started working in Hollywood 308 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: in a very different time. I mean this was pre 309 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 3: me too. This was free fall of Harvey Weinstea and 310 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 3: all that stuff. Did you ever experience that dark side 311 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: of Hollywood? The stuff that came to light? I didn't 312 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 3: me too. Movement in what content you I've never. 313 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 5: Really talked about it publicly because I made the decision 314 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 5: to not, especially when all that stuff came out with 315 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 5: me too, to not. I didn't want to mention names 316 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 5: because they have families and stuff, and I just didn't 317 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 5: want to do that to their families, which is and 318 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 5: some people will be angry at me for not, but 319 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 5: I made the choice even though I felt vulnerable and 320 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 5: it was a different time. But I made the choice 321 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 5: now being more of an adult, to not only because 322 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 5: of there are situations. 323 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 3: Well, it's also it's your story and you get to 324 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 3: decide if and when you're ready to share it. And 325 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: that's a very you know, I don't know the details. 326 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 3: I've experienced some sexual assault and sexual harassment myself, and 327 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 3: so I have the utmost respect for anybody who has 328 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 3: experienced that and you don't have to share it. 329 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 5: I think you would be hard to find a woman 330 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 5: in this industry who didn't experience anything at all. Correct, 331 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 5: you know, it's uh, I don't know. Especially when I 332 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 5: started out, it was just a different time, Yeah, very different. 333 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: I have this written on my whiteboard at my house 334 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: and it says the universe keeps the score and so 335 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: so true. Sometimes you don't always have to be the 336 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: one right if it doesn't feel like you need to 337 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: ring the best. 338 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 5: I think the truth comes out eventually, yes, But for me, 339 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 5: I will eventually talk about the actual experience, but won't 340 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 5: say names. I think eventually I will my daughters know. Wow, 341 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 5: you know I've talked to them about it. 342 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: Why was it important to share it with them? 343 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 5: Because they're at that age of getting into the industry 344 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 5: and I want them to know that because they see 345 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 5: me as strong, because I can be a hard ass now, 346 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 5: but they don't know what I was like back then. 347 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 4: But also during the year certain things and. 348 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 5: Even though you're older and more wise, you still can 349 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 5: find yourself in different situations. But just to make them aware, 350 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 5: like this did happen to me. And this is why 351 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 5: I'm also overprotective, because sometimes they would get angry at me, 352 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 5: like Mom, I'm like, no, I want you to know 353 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 5: because these things did happen to me, and if it 354 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 5: could happen to me, it could happen to you. And 355 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 5: I just want you to be more aware and have 356 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 5: a voice and stand up for yourself. 357 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: That's really I think admirable that you said something to them. 358 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 4: I feel like I had to. They're women, and they're young, 359 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 4: they're beautiful, and they're so vulnerable. 360 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 3: Do you feel like you're able to be open about 361 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 3: some of the experiences that you had with other actors 362 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 3: who came up alongside you during that time. Do you 363 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 3: feel any sense of sisterhood with some of the actresses 364 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 3: that you were in the same circles with. 365 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 4: Yes, that's good. Yeah, definitely. I think there's so much 366 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 4: power in that too. 367 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 5: There was something about the nineties. When it was good, 368 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 5: it was good. When it was bad, it was real bad. 369 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 4: There was some bad things, but when it was good 370 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 4: it was good too. Yeah. 371 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 2: Well, that's actually cool to think about because you really 372 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: were in You were in it in the. 373 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: Heyday of Valleyway. 374 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 375 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 5: My kids are so jealous. They're like, wish I had 376 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 5: the nineties and it's so funny. 377 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 4: Totally. 378 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: I think we always have nostalgia for a simpler time 379 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 2: or what we think was a simpler time. 380 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 4: And the movies were so fun and different, so good. 381 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 3: Yes, I have so much nineties nostalgia for the soundtracks, 382 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 3: all of it. Yeah, so good, characters, everything. 383 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,239 Speaker 2: Have you had this like sort of guiding philosophy as 384 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 2: you've been navigating everything like Hollywood, reality, TV, public scrutiny, parenthood. 385 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 2: Do you have a guiding philosophy through it all? 386 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 4: Just following what I want to do? 387 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 5: And also when I did start out acting, you were 388 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 5: either you either did movies or you did TV. When 389 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 5: you did a talk show or an interview, you were 390 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 5: there was a mystery because you needed people to see 391 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 5: you as that character. And I love, actually, though that 392 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 5: it's all that we are more connected with fans and 393 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 5: be able to have that interaction because that's why we 394 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 5: all have a job, and it's nice to have that. 395 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 5: But I think I love though that the business has changed, 396 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 5: and I love that we're able to do like doing 397 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 5: a podcast, doing reality, doing a TV show, doing movies. 398 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 5: It's all entertainment, and so I love that there's just 399 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 5: such so many more platforms to be able to express 400 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 5: yourself creatively. 401 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: Speaking of entertainment, Denise, you did a reality show called 402 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 2: Special Forces on. 403 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: Fox Entertainment at its finest. 404 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 4: I love that show so much. 405 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 5: Same I don't know why I did it, So why 406 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 5: did you do it? Okay, I don't know. They asked 407 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 5: me for a while and I finally decided to do 408 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 5: it to take myself out of my comfort zone, and 409 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 5: I figured this would be something I will never ever 410 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 5: have another opportunity to do this. And I did briefly 411 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 5: touch on what you were talking about, Yeah, sexual assault 412 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 5: and stuff like that. And the reason why I did 413 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 5: even bring that up on that show is because when 414 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 5: I did decide to make the commitment to do the show, 415 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 5: I wanted to do what I could get out of 416 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 5: it because these men, I have so much respect for 417 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 5: the military and what they've gone through that I really 418 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 5: I didn't want to just be shut down and I 419 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 5: wanted to be myself on it. Yeah, afterwards, I was like, 420 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 5: oh gosh, why did I say certain things and whatever? 421 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 5: But I'll tell you it was one of the craziest 422 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 5: experiences I've ever gone through. 423 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 3: Why how so, like, what what are the moments that 424 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 3: kind of stick out in your mind? 425 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 5: The first moment when we got pushed off a boat 426 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 5: and have to swim, and we didn't have our phones 427 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 5: and we were swimming in the Irish Sea, so I 428 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 5: wasn't able to google, like, we didn't know we're being 429 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 5: pushed off. Oh my god, So we were. I was 430 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 5: in the front of the boat, so it was so noisy, 431 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 5: you couldn't hear. They would pick us up, like walk 432 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 5: us to the back, but you can't hear because our 433 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 5: heads are down where. 434 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 4: I haven't seen the show. By the way, I don't 435 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 4: watch it. You haven't watched it back. 436 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: It's traumatizing for you or what? 437 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 4: Well? Both? First number one, I don't like to watch myself, 438 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 4: and it's hard to watch yourself. It's hard for me 439 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 4: to even listen to myself. 440 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,479 Speaker 5: And I hated that we had no glam selfishly, we 441 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 5: really truly did not get to have any. 442 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: On Special Forces and you have an epic LAMB team. 443 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 2: I know that is an iconic glayard. And I couldn't 444 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 2: even bring mascara. They would have taken it from me. 445 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: So I was like, I'm not why would I want 446 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 2: to watch myself? And also what I shared too, I 447 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: was like, I didn't want to watch that back. But 448 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: it was a combination of things. But yeah, I think 449 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: from the moment everyone meets all of us getting in 450 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: the water, and then when we had to jump on 451 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 2: the helicopter and the water, we didn't have a I 452 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: didn't have my phone to google, like is there a 453 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 2: shark in there? 454 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 4: Is there? 455 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 5: Which is probably good thing that I didn't know what's 456 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 5: you can't see anything? And yeah, I was kind of nervous. 457 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 5: What's down there? Yeah, and I'm afraid of heights. So 458 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 5: but I'm proud of myself that I did jump off 459 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 5: the bridge because I am terrified of heights. 460 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 4: So I can't believe I did that. 461 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 3: Sounds like an exercise and trust in a lot of 462 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 3: ways or stupidity. 463 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: Have your girls watched it? 464 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 5: They can't watch it, they won't watch it. They did 465 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 5: not want me to do the show. I actually gotten 466 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 5: an argument with. 467 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 2: Them, really, yes, because they were scared for your safety. Yeah. 468 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: I would be for my mom too. 469 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 4: I know, I get it. 470 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 2: It's time for another short break, but stay with us. 471 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: We'll be right back with Denise Richards. And we're back 472 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: with Denise Richards. 473 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 3: I need to go back to an earlier part of 474 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 3: the interview, okay, because I love the nineties so much, 475 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: and that's. 476 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 4: All you've been thinking about. So I talk about Special Forces. 477 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 3: You're like, no, But your iconic film Wild Things came 478 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 3: out in nineteen ninety eight. 479 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 4: What I'm glad you know the year. I don't even 480 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 4: know what was it like to be Denise Richards in 481 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 4: nineteen ninety eight. That's so funny. Okay. 482 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 5: So Starship Troopers came out and four months later it 483 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 5: was Wild Things, so two completely different movies. It was 484 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 5: very surreal walking into a grocery store and seeing myself 485 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 5: on the cover of a magazine or you know, I 486 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 5: did a lot of covers and a lot of sexy 487 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 5: stuff and labeled a sex symbol, and here I am 488 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 5: and jeans and a T shirt and like people could 489 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,239 Speaker 5: only see me on my real life. It's surreal, and 490 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 5: it's you know, I always say it's people say sometimes 491 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 5: it's overnight. It's not. What's overnight? Is that one job 492 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 5: that changes your career. That part's overnight when you do 493 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 5: get that one job. You could get rejected all these 494 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 5: years and do different things that no one sees. But 495 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 5: the one job that people recognize you for and all 496 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 5: of a sudden people come up to you on the 497 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 5: street or as for your autograph or stuff like that 498 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 5: or a picture or whatever. That part I felt, and 499 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 5: I say, is like overnight. And that's a thing that 500 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 5: was such an adjustment for my family to deal with 501 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 5: because I. 502 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 4: Don't come from a Hollywood family. 503 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 5: I came from my mom who was a stay at 504 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 5: home mom and my dad who worked at a phone company, 505 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, their daughter is they have 506 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 5: neighbors asking and things like that. So that was a 507 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 5: big adjustment I think for my family. 508 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 4: How do you reflect on the sex symbol label now? Now? 509 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 4: I'm like, well, shit, I wish I embraced it more 510 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 4: now that I'm older. That's all how gom I was 511 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,239 Speaker 4: kind of shy. I was, really, yes, I was. 512 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 5: I was much more shy and awkward and uncomfortable when 513 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 5: people would say stuff, even on a red carpet. I 514 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 5: would get embarrassed when people would take photos. 515 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 4: I just was. 516 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 5: It's funny because I was more comfortable playing a part 517 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 5: than presenting an award at an awards showing myself. I'd 518 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 5: be so nervous and I would just have to tell myself, okay, 519 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 5: just pretend like it's a role and you're walking out there, 520 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 5: because it's so daunting and nerve wracking. But it's a 521 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 5: it's just a different thing and different feeling of all 522 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 5: of a sudden people seeing you in a way. 523 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 2: So right now, people if they're interesting, and it's particularly 524 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 2: famous people, they just dm somebody to go out on 525 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 2: a date. But in nineteen ninety eight, you blow up, 526 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 2: You're on the cover of magazines. What is your life 527 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: like in terms of dating? Is everyone asking you out? 528 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: Is no one asking you out because they're intimidated our 529 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 2: agents setting you up? 530 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 5: Usually they will ask their publicist to ask the other 531 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 5: publicist if someone's interested. 532 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 4: That's how it usually was. 533 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: Is it still like that? 534 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 5: Well, I'm married. I've been with my husband for god 535 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 5: over eight years. 536 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 4: So yeah. 537 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 5: Prior to that, I don't know, because I wasn't interested 538 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 5: in dating. No, it was like the Raya or whatever. 539 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 5: I think that's ry or whatever. I don't even say 540 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 5: it right, I don't even know the name of the 541 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 5: fricking sit. 542 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 4: Is that still popular? Yeah? 543 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: I think it's on the decline, but it is still popular. 544 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: What's the new ones? 545 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 2: You know? 546 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 4: Are you thinking? Am? Okay? So not that you're on it? 547 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 4: If you will, I am? I out? Okay? Which ones 548 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 4: are you on? 549 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: I'm on? Well? 550 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 4: What's the what's the best one? 551 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: There's Bumble, there's Hinge, there's Rayah. It's not an app girl, 552 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 2: I like an in person. 553 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 4: So how do you meet people? 554 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 5: I don't So do you not meet anyone on the 555 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:16,479 Speaker 5: the apps? 556 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 4: Yeah? 557 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 2: They're usually just pen pals, and I'm not a great texter, 558 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 2: so it ends up. 559 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 6: Physicing texture even in the friend zone. 560 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 4: That's actually really cute. It's true. So is it because 561 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 4: you don't want to go out with them? Or oh 562 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 4: this is good. This is a great question. 563 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 5: Today because value, I mean, you can cut whatever you 564 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 5: want to cut. You have control over this interview. I 565 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 5: bet a lot of you all would love to know 566 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 5: this because it's a big thing with dating. 567 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: No, it's a big thing. Okay, So I will tell 568 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 2: you when I go other places. When I'm in New York, 569 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 2: I get asked out a lot. In LA No one 570 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 2: really asked me out. And I don't know if it's 571 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: the energy I'm putting out or I think the culture 572 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: of conversation here is like nobody really chats. 573 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 4: New York is so different. 574 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 2: It's really different. I like a more like I think 575 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: aggressive guy. 576 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 4: I mean to me, you seem like New York vibe. 577 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 2: I am wearing a leather coat today and it might 578 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 2: be yeah, K look extra New York today. 579 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 4: Yes, your hair pulled back, very sleek. 580 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 3: But you don't really you tried kind of living in 581 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 3: New York for a little bit and you were like, 582 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 3: I don't know if this is for me. 583 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: Well, by day I really love New York. 584 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 2: And by day three I got into a fight with 585 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 2: a FedEx guy over two dollars, and I thought I 586 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 2: did too. 587 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: Much therapy and have lived in LA too long. 588 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 2: I was so calm to have yelled at a fed 589 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: Ex man over two bucks. 590 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 4: I gotta get back. 591 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 5: Well, people are a little bit more straightforward there. Yeah, 592 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 5: but being from Chicago. The weather in New York is 593 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 5: a little tough too in the winter. 594 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: I would your girls ever move or they're LA for. 595 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 5: They would move, I don't know if they would move 596 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 5: to New York. We have talked about Tennessee. I think 597 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 5: that they possibly would go to Nashville, but I don't 598 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 5: know if they would. I don't think they'd moved to 599 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 5: Chicago because it's just so damn cold. Yeah, you know, 600 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 5: as much as I love it there. 601 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 4: Do your girls keep you in the loop about their 602 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 4: love life? Oh? Yes, okay, so you guys have that open, real, 603 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 4: very open. Okay, thank you my advice? Yes, my husband 604 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 4: gave some advice. 605 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 5: I won't say which daughter because I don't want her 606 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 5: to get mad, gave some advice the other night, and 607 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 5: it was good. They are very open, much more open 608 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 5: with me than I was more open with my mom 609 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 5: as I got older, but not at their age. I 610 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 5: was much more private because I'd be really a good girl, 611 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 5: so I couldn't tell my mom certain things. But we 612 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 5: definitely have that communication, which is great. You're trying to 613 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 5: get off the subject of her dating. 614 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 2: No, I. 615 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 4: Won't put you on the spot. 616 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, Denise, you want to play a little game 617 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 2: with you in honor of Wild Things, your new show, 618 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 2: We're going to play around of wild or mild. 619 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: So this is basically true or false. 620 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 2: We're going to give you some rumors that we've heard 621 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 2: about you to see. 622 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: You about me. 623 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 2: Okay, this interview took a turn to see if it's mild, 624 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 2: if it's false, and excuse. If it's true, it's mild, 625 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 2: and if it's false, it's wild. 626 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 4: Okay, Okay. 627 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: Wild or Mild Denise has three town homes, one house, 628 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 2: four dogs, three daughters, and one husband to manage. 629 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 4: Mild mild Okay. 630 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 3: Wild or Mild Denise is known to crash a Hollywood 631 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 3: party uninvited. 632 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 2: Wild Denise had to replace her breast implants after jumping 633 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 2: off a bridge. 634 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 4: Mild Okay, I need more details. 635 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. 636 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 4: First of all, painful. 637 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 5: They're getting replaced to I haven't had the downtime to 638 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 5: do it, so it's coming up when I'm down with 639 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 5: thought my press. But yes, when I jumped off the bridge, 640 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 5: the harness, the pressure because it wasn't like a bungee, 641 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 5: it was like a rope that kind of stopped you 642 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 5: in It ruptured every thing on me was painful. 643 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 3: At that point, I've been thinking about getting one, but 644 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 3: I have been don't get them, don't get them. 645 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 4: I've been reading terrible. If I could do it all 646 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 4: over again, don't get them. Nope, just be a flat 647 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 4: jested battie. Yeah, okay. 648 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 5: My oldest daughter got them, and I try to talk 649 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 5: her out of it, okay, and she many reasons. It's, 650 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 5: first of all, the saint just my second set coming in. 651 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to replace them every ten years, right. 652 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 5: When things go sideways, you replace some. But they do 653 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,479 Speaker 5: say ten years. But and when you're I got them 654 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 5: at nineteen. When you're nineteen, you don't think you're like, oh, 655 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 5: ten years is so far away, But the older you get, 656 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 5: ten years isn't so far away. Yeah, But it's just 657 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 5: a constant thing. And plus they're not the healthiest. Yeah, 658 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 5: but my oldest daughter, she's I think she's wishing she 659 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 5: kind of didn't soothe. 660 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 4: She wishes she listened to me. But you don't get them, 661 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 4: don't get them. Okay, all right, Denise. 662 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 5: You know what they're coming out with so much technology 663 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 5: where you could hold off. 664 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna wait until yeah they perfect that fat 665 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 3: injection process. 666 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 6: Wait, okay, all right, what's the other wild mild? Okay, okay, 667 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 6: we have a couple more. Okay, Wilder Mild. See Denise 668 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 6: likes the game now, Okay, Wilder Mild. Denise is a 669 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 6: pasta pro and about to release her first cookbook, wild 670 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 6: I wish it was true. 671 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 5: I'm trying to be a pasta pro, and I know 672 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 5: I am so far from having my own cookbook and 673 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 5: be like what not to do in the kitchen? 674 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 2: Okay, the last Wilder Mild Denise will forever be an 675 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 2: unfiltered queen. 676 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 4: Oh Mild, perfect way to. 677 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: End, Denise, Thank you so much. 678 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 2: We can't wait to see all of your new adventures unfold. 679 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 2: And thank you for joining us on the bright side. 680 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me the girls are 681 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 4: so fun. 682 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: You're fun too. 683 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 4: You're fun too. Thanks for rolling with our crazy games. 684 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 4: I love it. 685 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 2: Denise Richards is an actor and reality star. Her new docuseries, 686 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 2: Denise Richards and Her Wild Things, premieres on Bravo on Marsh. 687 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 4: That's it for today's show. 688 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 3: Tomorrow, It's well this Wednesday, we're talking all about the 689 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 3: surprising superpowers of the mommy brain with clinical psychologist and 690 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 3: author doctor Nicole Pensac. 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