1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Hi. I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson. 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationships and 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling, Railvalry, No, no, sibling. 4 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: Don't do that with your mouth, Vely, that's good. This 5 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: episode you're about to listen to is Amy Schumer and 6 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: Kim Caramelli sisters. And unfortunately I had influenza A, not B, 7 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: not Corona. Let's not get crazy here, but I had 8 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: influenza A. I was unable to make the trip and 9 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: I was actually super bummed out because I was I 10 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: was very excited to hang with these girls. But I 11 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: did find an amazing replacement. Her name is Goldie Hawn. 12 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: She happens to be my mother. And I don't even 13 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: know what I don't even know what the hell any 14 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: they've talked about. I haven't listened to it. I don't 15 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: I don't even know. Like, I'm sure it's going to 16 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: be great. My only fear is is that you guys 17 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: are going to enjoy my mother more than myself. And 18 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: there's going to be a petition on move on dot 19 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: org that is going to kick me out of sibling revelry, 20 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: and my mother will replace me. I really don't want 21 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: that to happen. I mean, I do hope she does 22 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: a really good job. Maybe not a great job, but 23 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: a really good job. So it's like, oh, that was 24 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: really fun, but you know, we still want all of her. 25 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: That that's what I'm hoping for. Anyway, I'm sure it 26 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: was an amazing Amy and Kim are amazing. I've known 27 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: Amy for a little bit now, but I'm actually just 28 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: as excited to listen to this as you guys are. 29 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: So enjoy I will be listening along with you. Careen, 30 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: Mellie one is in front of us, all I'm so 31 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: happy to be here. I'm so happy to be here. 32 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: You guys are here, I know. And it's so funny 33 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: because all ofver can't be here because he's sick. He's 34 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: got the flu, and so we come to New York 35 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: and I was saying, oh my god, this is mom 36 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: was going to be here, and I was so excited 37 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: because it was like this just worked out, so this 38 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: is so it's so sorry, Allie, I'm sorry about the flu. 39 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: But when I heard you of the flu, I was 40 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: so excited because I knew that meant Goldie was coming. 41 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: Amy shrieked out of the window in delight in our 42 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: cab and I was like, he's really sick. She's like, 43 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: I don't care. New York. It was like, yeah, it 44 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: was my first real New York. Yeah, it was all 45 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: you get in, both hands up into light. I thought, 46 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: kim Bey, you were saying that you you love this podcast. 47 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: You listened to it, and it was the moment with 48 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: Goldie you heard. So I was listening to one of 49 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: the episodes and Goldie you had you called in and 50 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, Mom's calling. And I don't think you 51 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: called in on purpose, No, you were, because you just 52 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: you kind of just got right to business. You were like, 53 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: where's body Like no, like hello, no, not just like boom, 54 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: where you know? Where's body at? And and you guys 55 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: were talking about how Goldie you had gotten a chef 56 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: for Oliver when he was in college, and I guess 57 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: you guys had some follow up questions about that, and 58 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: and the phrasing of the question was such that it 59 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,839 Speaker 1: was so delightful. So all of a sudden, you know, Mom, 60 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: when I was in college, you got me a chef 61 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: And you were like yes, and he said, why did 62 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: you do that to me? And you just burst out laughing, 63 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: as though it was this grave injustice that you caused him. 64 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: Why did you do that to me? Why did you 65 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: get that for me? Mom? And you just laughed and 66 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: laugh to laugh before you could answer, and I just 67 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: I had to pause it because I was laughing so much. 68 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: It was such a delightful. It was like, this is 69 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: my favorite concas all a setup. They set me up. 70 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: They sent you up. Oh yeah, we didn't. Oh I called, didn't. 71 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: I mean, well, yeah, you you all know. It was 72 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: one of those moments that was hilarious because we were 73 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: just talking about you and the phone ring and it goes, 74 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,559 Speaker 1: oh my god, it's mom. It was one hundred coins. 75 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: It was it was a happened on film, let's put 76 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: it that way. Yeah, it's so funny. But we're excited 77 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: to be here. So so what we normally do on 78 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: the podcast is we start from the beginning brother Jason, 79 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: half brother, and then you came along, then me and 80 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: then Kim okay, and so where did you guys grow up? 81 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: We grew up on Long Island, kind of in one 82 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: of the few towns that had few Jews, so we 83 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: were raised Jewish Jewishish. I know that you like, yes, 84 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: I can relate yes, like a like a hint, like 85 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: a you know, just a little like grandmother said, we're reformed. 86 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: We're reformed, that we're so reformed that we just say 87 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: bubbala once in a while, and that's the extent of 88 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: our Judaism, you know, it's once, oh yeah, yeah, Amy 89 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: bat mitzvah. But then by the time it was my turn, 90 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: like we were all kind of over it, and so 91 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: I didn't So Kim was like, I don't want to 92 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: do that, and I'm like, how come she's allowed to 93 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: not do that? But I still got like a party. Yeah, 94 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: really there was no downside for you. But I mean 95 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: that the without the reading. I went to Temple on 96 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: Friday night, I went to Hebrew School on Saturday. I 97 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: got to play soccer. But anyway, we grew up in 98 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: this town. It was like, you know, a ton of 99 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: Irish Catholic people and uh, yeah, we were kind of 100 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: like one of the jew families. Uh, explain kind of 101 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: the house in which you grew up in was I'm 102 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: actually writing and starring in the show for Hulu right 103 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: now about that we were we were our dad was 104 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: really wealthy when we were really young. Oh yeah, that's right. 105 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: And we lived in like kind of a mansion and 106 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: you know they he had like his own plane for 107 00:06:54,040 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: a little while and then lost every thing. And so I, 108 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: just because you can Google map anything, I looked at 109 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: the house we lived in, and then I looked at 110 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: the house we moved to, and it is shocking. And 111 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: that was until you were about nine and I was five. 112 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: Are you trying to plug the musical nine to five? Yeah? 113 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: Is that not? Is that not? What? We don't use this? Oh? Okay, okay, 114 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: well then wait, so you moved within the same town, 115 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: like literally from the mansion to it was riches, to 116 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: rags and to like a tiny and then we lived 117 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: in people's basements, and then we lived in and then 118 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: my mom and I were sharing a bed and it 119 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: was like a reverse Russian doll. I counted one. I 120 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: think we while I was in high school. I think 121 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: we lived in was it twelve different houses and apartments 122 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: more than every year? Yeah? Wow, we got smaller and smaller. 123 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: Do you remember it? Do you? I? Literally do I do? 124 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: I remember? I have like little flashes of it because 125 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: you're clothes but yeah, my clothes got pretty bad and 126 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: you let your hair go to ship and I stayed yeah, 127 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: and it stayed there and it's but yeah, it was. 128 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: Amy was about nine. I was about five, which I 129 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: had a joke about we start, you know, like because 130 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: when I think, when you first lose your money, like 131 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: a real housewife, you like still kind of live in 132 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 1: a mansion somehow, you know, you like one good credit 133 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: card and then and then you have to like face 134 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: reality and live in like a shoe. But I joke 135 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: that at my age, the only way that I really 136 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: felt the loss of money was in the quality of 137 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: my birthday parties, because like one year I had a 138 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: farm party and there were animals and it was a 139 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: big carnival. And then the next year the theme was 140 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: dancing on the ceiling and my dad just turned a 141 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: camera upside down and filmed us like dancing around a 142 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: light fixture, and it like we got a pizza and 143 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: everybody was like I had to chip in for the pizza. 144 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it was dark, but it's fine because we do. 145 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: We have home movies and so you really like we 146 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: get to watch like the progression of our downfall. We're 147 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: like here and then like so we get to like 148 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: really track, Okay, what was going on in the family 149 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: for all of this to happen. Our dad just like 150 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: lost the business. Well, our dad was diagnosed with MS 151 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: and then like right on top of that the bankruptcys 152 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: caused because they owned a baby furniture company where they 153 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: were importing baby furniture from Italy and so you know, 154 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: parents on the Upper East Side were like, we need 155 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: a crib from Milan today, and then other people started 156 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: doing it too, so it just wasn't you know, he 157 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: didn't have a monopoly on it, and so the business went. Yeah, 158 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: and you know, my, you know, our dad is so 159 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: deeply that there are pictures of Goldie all over his room. 160 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: He loves mommy. Yeah, yeah, I love him. You're so sweet. 161 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: I mean every time, Well, what I learned more, you know, 162 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: I realized he was not an easy man. No, a 163 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of stuff. And I think that 164 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 1: what happens, which is so interesting because I've seen your 165 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: time with him, yeah, and your care for him and 166 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: your empathy for him and you know, taking him and 167 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: doing and you know all of it. Yeah, and it's 168 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: so beautiful because it shows, you know, we do have 169 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: a great capacity to forgive. Yeah, and you just love 170 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: your parents, and you love your parents exactly. Yeah, So 171 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: it just it's it's just a testimony. Yeah, you forgive them. 172 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: That's what I try to remind myself that too. You know, 173 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying to be so great during this time where Jeane, 174 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: he's ten months, he won't even remember. But I watched 175 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: the show Love After lock Up, where like the parents 176 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: are in jail and they get out after I need 177 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: to know what the show is. It's on Friday nights. 178 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: It's Love after lock Up. It's life after lock Up. 179 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: You know, when you find something so joyful, you have 180 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: to extend the brand, the story. So there's lots of 181 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: different versions. But you see these parents they get out 182 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: after like eight years, and the kids they're like, mommy, 183 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: you know there's no you love your parents exactly exactly. Yeah, 184 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: No matter what, it's not easy. It's not easy. It's 185 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: a constant negotiation and cycle. So mom and dad were 186 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: together for how long? Ten fifteen? Yeah, they were married 187 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: for fourteen years and then they got divorced. When we 188 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: went to this one to this yeah, so I was 189 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: eight and Amy was twelve, Okay, speake of my bangs. 190 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 1: I just have to also say, yeah, my bangs had 191 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: never been so frezzy. Our house was here, Amy's bangs 192 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: were here, so right at the time where you're all 193 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: of a sudden getting a body and your period, yeah 194 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: that you're also your family is craft falling apart. Everything's 195 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: falling apart. I mean, this is like very traumatic. I 196 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: loved it. It was a blast literally in your fundamental years. 197 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: You're saying that everything your whole life turned upside down exactly. 198 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: And your father, you wrote, was a drinker. Yeah, yeah, 199 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: he drank. Yeah. Now we didn't really know though, well 200 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: we didn't know until because our mom hid it from us. 201 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: But when you go out of hand, we were little. 202 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: I mean, there are things you can remember, like like 203 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: he would just be kind of passed out somewhere, but 204 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: you're just like, dad must be dying. It wasn't like 205 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: a negative drink, Like we never had like a bad 206 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: vibe from him at all. He wasn't like an angry 207 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: drinker or you know, he was just like like a 208 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: sleepy one. Then one day he showed up to spend 209 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: time with us, and he got off a bus and 210 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: like taking a bus on long Island is not like 211 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: typical for you know, yeah, and uh, we were like, 212 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: what are you taking the bus? What's going on? You know? 213 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: And he was like it turned out he had so 214 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: many DUIs that he could no longer drive, and we 215 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: a couple of times had to go visit him in detox, 216 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: which for like, probably no one knows anybody. Well, actually, 217 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: you guys probably know people, but most people don't know 218 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: anyone who's drinking to the point where they would need 219 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: to go to detox to stay alive. Yeah, so you know, 220 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: it's like that's serious. And he was so depressed. So yeah, 221 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: well that's sad. But look at us now, like we're 222 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: filled with so much character and charisma. I wonder if 223 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: if we don't have that, if you don't have that struggle, 224 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: do you think like you can still be an interesting, 225 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: full person. Challenges are important, but also resiliences, and I 226 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: think you're born with a level of resilience that you 227 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 1: can move through this. I mean, I know a lot 228 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: of people who are not resilient, who literally it does 229 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: affect in a very very dramatic way and negative way, 230 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: and you know, their life is not the trajectory of 231 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: their life is not that good. So I think she's 232 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: talking about Barbara stre Girl. She could sing your name's 233 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: really good. How much did you guys lean on each 234 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 1: other during that time? Well, I think it's also like 235 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: when I when I look back at like a bunch 236 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: of the like pretty dark, real real dark, middal dark days, 237 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: real dark days, like I never remember like Amy and 238 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: I kind of like crying with each other or anything 239 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: about it. I remember like the things I remembers us 240 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: like looking at each other like y, yeah, like this 241 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: is so bad, this is dark, and then like laughing 242 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: and then like doing something like really fun just the 243 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: two of us kind of about it. But yeah, we 244 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: clung to each We really clung to each other and 245 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: and just kind of not like actively not letting this 246 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: dark stuff around us kind of like affect our days. 247 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: There was one day where our dad was like, I'm 248 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: going to take your girls to see Rent. And we 249 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: had already seen a bunch like we loved seeing Broadway 250 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: shows and we loved Rent. We're Rent girls, basically, we're 251 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: Rent heads. And uh and so our dad is like, 252 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: we got tickets to the matinee and he ms is, 253 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: you know, a hell of a disease and it was 254 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: it had been in remission. He was coming out of remission. 255 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: He was like, you know, so it's like you don't 256 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: really understand ms. But he would walk really slow, like 257 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: it just slows you down. And so we get into 258 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: the Manhattan and we go outside the theater and and 259 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: he got the tickets and they were like these are 260 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: to the night performance. And he knew like he couldn't 261 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: he can't, he couldn't physically hang in the city hours. 262 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: So he sits down on kind of like a steam 263 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: pipe on the city. It was like like just kind 264 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: of takes the scene and just like just looking at 265 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: our dad knowing like he's just just taking a break 266 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: because he like kind of failed in some way. And 267 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: it was really sad and really dark. But we were 268 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: also at an age where we were like wheels are turning. 269 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: Were like, Dad, give us the tickets and we'll just 270 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: stay in Manhattan. Yeah, We're like you go, and you go, 271 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: and it's fine. And then we were like, you know, 272 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: pretty young and loose in the city and we're just like, 273 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: you know, we went. Yeah, we went to muse Natural History. 274 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: We got booze, we got white wine. It's like a 275 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: free white wine at a Chinese restaurant. You know, we 276 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: had to go see I mean, you know, so you 277 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: made the most of the most, made the most. You know, 278 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: it's really we have real dark images and memories and moments, 279 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: but followed immediately by like us just having like a 280 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: nice time with each other. There's nobody on the planet 281 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: that understands each other more than you two totally. It's 282 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: like the craziest bond. It's it's so awesome and and 283 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: I mean you guys are even working together, so it's 284 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: just stays and continues and it's like we loved working together. 285 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: We've had a really good experience. And I saw when 286 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: you work together yeah on Snatch, and it really was fantastic. 287 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: Yeah it was uh and you kind of finish each 288 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: other's sentences. But I'm always interested to know because there's 289 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: all there is sibling rivalry, which is revelry is to 290 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: play on on it. But in terms of that, what 291 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: kind of how do you argue? How do you like face? Like, 292 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: I don't get that our arguments do you just no? No, 293 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 1: I mean when we do it, but I just I 294 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: have to say like that I'll be like, you know, 295 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: we've a couple of times had an argument in front 296 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: of someone we're close to, like a friend, and after 297 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: I'll be like, I'm sorry to see that, and they're 298 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: like that was the tamost like highly therapized. Yeah, human, 299 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: oh yeah, It's like it's ridiculous. And I also, like, 300 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: I genuinely have never considered anything between us to be 301 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: like a rivalry whatsoever. I think because of our age difference, 302 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: Like we never overlapped in school, so there was never 303 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: any competition between us, like for friends or for guys 304 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: or for anything like that. So like I never like 305 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: we never went after the same things. Well also, everything 306 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: that I did, she would then do but better. So 307 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: I was like I was like pretty good at volleyball, 308 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:09,959 Speaker 1: and then she was like all state, you know, but 309 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: we weren't doing that at the same time like I was, 310 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: but we weren't like going after the same spot on. 311 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: There was no you know, there was no I know 312 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 1: her and like she does stand up like I'm not 313 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: and like I'm not like I'm not going for the 314 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: same roles. We're not going for the same jobs, you 315 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's really like I really 316 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: don't consider there to be any rivalry. She's my first 317 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: phone call when there's something exciting. Actually, she's my only one. 318 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: Isn't that funny? When you get good news, it starts 319 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: out that you're like you call all your friends, and 320 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: then over the years it's like there's like one just 321 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: text your sibly. When do you remember when you knew 322 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: mom was having another baby? Like, did you have that 323 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: memory or when she came home from the hospital. I don't, 324 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 1: but I do remember being really she was so adorable 325 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: that I was threatened and I knew I had to 326 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: start getting nicer to my dad. You know. I was like, 327 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: so you did have a moment of like, oh, oh geez, Yeah, 328 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: definitely I had that. You know, I'm glad you never 329 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 1: had that, but I did because she was so cute. 330 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: She was just as little Shirley Temple and I had been. 331 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: You know, you get used to being people thinking you're 332 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: an adorable little girl, and then all of a sudden, 333 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: it's oh and you're just like the older like you 334 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: know Ogre, you know that's like he's like, I'm going 335 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: through it right now, yeahie, you know, and like to me, 336 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: they're just like here, hold this for your sister, you know. 337 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: But then we yeah, we like had a rough start, 338 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: as you know, really young kids. And then and then 339 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: we like, actually you want to say the thing the note? Yeah, yeah, 340 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: I guess for for a while, for a while there, 341 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: I guess until we were about twenty two and how 342 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: old this is young? This is like you were probably four. Yeah, 343 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: I was like eight. I uh like Amy was like 344 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: not particularly too nice to be sometimes and I no, 345 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: I terrorized her. One time. My mom was like, she 346 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: woke up with a nightmare. And then my mom was like, 347 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: did you wanna go sleep with Amy? And she's like, no, 348 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: my nightmare is about her. But hear me out like it. 349 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: I watched The Exorcist and Linda Blair like her when 350 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: Amy was eight. I'm like, when Amy was eight, Linda 351 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: Blair and the Exorcist, it was there was some there 352 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: was some bang similarities, there's some overlap, there's some bang overlap. 353 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: So I so I like saw this, it was close, 354 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: and so I would have some nightmares and so so 355 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,719 Speaker 1: like Amy was a little bit mean to me and 356 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: so uh so one day but I thought it was 357 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: like my fault, you know, And I guess it was. 358 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: I was a good abuser. It was my fault for 359 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: being so cute, and so I wrote Amy, and not like, 360 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: you know, do you love it? If you love me, 361 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: you will you draw eyes on this pig. And I drew, 362 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: let's unpack that. And I remember reading that. I do remember, 363 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: I really do remember opening that note and seeing it. 364 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: And our dad had made a big deal about it 365 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: in the Mafia families. All that matters. That's like what 366 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: the lesson he used to tea, Just all that matters. 367 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: And I remember opening this, Yeah, and I look at 368 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: this little thing and it like broke my heart and 369 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: it completely changed the rest of our lives. And I 370 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: drew heart eyes on the pig, and I gave it 371 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: back to her and then we were inseparable for the 372 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: rest of you don't Yeah, well no, no, later, No, 373 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: we don't have that one. But but Amy did like 374 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: a callback to it, like a couple of years later 375 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: or whatever, like because we would write like you always 376 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: do that. We would write little like nice little notes 377 00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: love each other. We'd write each other loves that's what 378 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: sisters do. Yeah, I mean, And we have letters like that. 379 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: We would write all throughout high school and college and 380 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: it's really nice. Like we would send it back and 381 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: forth to each other and like one as like a 382 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: cat or whatever, like I'll always like draw eyes, you 383 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: little dummy. You're a dummy. But but when we fight. 384 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: Uh So, one fight I'm remembering was we were leaving 385 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: a comedy club together and I had a rolling bag 386 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: with me, you know, like why uh I think I 387 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: was getting changed there. And you know it was a 388 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: comedy club in a mall. It was in a mall. 389 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: I don't want a brag. I was doing a comedy 390 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: club in a mall. Great now, you know stands jealousy. 391 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,959 Speaker 1: Uh and and uh And Kim was like I've got it, 392 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: like I'll take the bag, and she wasn't rolling it. 393 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,239 Speaker 1: And we're walking the car and I keep going like 394 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 1: it's a roll you can roll it, like you don't 395 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: have to like lug it. It's a rolling bag. She's like, no, no, 396 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: it's fine. And I'm like, I feel like you're trying 397 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: to make it seem more difficult by not just rolling it. 398 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: She's like, I'm fine, it's fine. And then we get 399 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: in the car and we go home and our friend Kyle, 400 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: who was opening for me, I was like, I'm so 401 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: embarrassed that you saw that, like in my mind that 402 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: had been a really big and he's like, god, that's 403 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: this the lamest fight I've ever seen. He was like 404 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: more mad that we thought that was a fight. Yeah, 405 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 1: oh my god. No, we don't say anything that we're 406 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: gonna regret. I mean, you know, it stays pretty. It 407 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: stays pretty about the thing. But being the child of 408 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: an alcoholic, you know, I just think, also, you guys, 409 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: the way you grew up, I mean, you are you're 410 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: you know, you can't afford to lose each other. We 411 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: need each other. And I'll like, if you're a child 412 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: of an alcoholic, you are ready for like your whole 413 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: world to blow up all the time. So we'll get 414 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: in a fight and like an argument like nothing, and 415 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: I'll be like, well, obviously we're not talking for a while, 416 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: and she'll be like, yes, we are. We had a fight. 417 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: You're so weird. You're always like I'm always like, well 418 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: that's it. Obviously, I'll get my thing even and like 419 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: we got in a fight, and she's like, I mean, 420 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: I would like it if at some point you want 421 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: to be a part of Jean's life. I'm like, shut 422 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 1: the fuck up. I'm like, shut up. Well, she tries 423 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: to make me not go to her wedding, and I 424 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: was like, shut up, and I'm playing. Okay. She was 425 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: twenty two and she was last year, and she was 426 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: projecting her feelings about the relationship. I was in onto 427 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: what she thought. I thought about her husband. Yea. And 428 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: they got married in like a courthouse in Yonkers and 429 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: I was like her witness, you know. And the night 430 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: before was like, I don't think you like Vinnie, and 431 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: I was like, you're an idiot. You are an absolute 432 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: of course I love whatever. I was like, I'm coming. 433 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: Don't think this conversation ends. I'm coming to your wedding. Yeah. 434 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: Our full time job is like not letting each other 435 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: push the other one away. Yeah, it's really so important. 436 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: I mean, my God, at the end of the day, 437 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: and I'm way older than you are. Sisters are more important, 438 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: more valuable, you know, But who who is the most reasonable? 439 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: Do you think neither of us are? Oh you're crying 440 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: A sister. A lot of close girlfriends. I feel like 441 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: they're still not my sister. Sister. Yeah. Well, I'm happy 442 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: I have one daughter because I'm surrounded by boys. Although 443 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: now I have two granddaughters and so you know, you 444 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: have a daughter, but it is different bonds. It's a 445 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,719 Speaker 1: very different bond. It's a different kind of love. Yeah, 446 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: it's an ugly kind of love. Yeah. Well she doesn't 447 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: let me touch her. Oh really, Like I I'm very 448 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: affectionate and I want I'm aware that I'm wearing her 449 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: sweater and I'm upset about it. Yeah. I don't want 450 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: to be cold, but I don't want to be wearing 451 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: her things. But I just want to, like, like, you know, 452 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: hug her, and she's just like get awayfully. Yeah. Are 453 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: you like that with your Husbandian? No, it's Amy specific. 454 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: It's me really. I don't like drink after her. She's so, 455 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: she is, did you have you moved back or are 456 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: you still in Chicago? Oh? No, I moved back to Connecticut, 457 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: So I'm they moved a half hours away. How long 458 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: have you been married for I've been married for eleven years. 459 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy? Ye to Carmel got to skip the 460 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 1: whole dating all that? Yeah? Did you go to college? Yes? 461 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: And did you go to college? We both graduated from 462 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: college and I went to grad school. I was a 463 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: school psychologist and I went I'm been acting meiser two 464 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: year intensive. So when she left for college. How was 465 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: that for you? That was four years of it was 466 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: without your Like, you cannot imagine how bad it went 467 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: the most veriest bad? Really? Oh yeah, I tanked, Yeah, 468 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: and I like I could not believe I was going 469 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: that I was away. Oh yeah, no, it it like 470 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: ship went wild. How quickly were you out of the house? 471 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's kind of like how long did I 472 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: last in the house alone without her? A year and 473 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: a half. Yeah, a year and a half and then 474 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: and then I had to be I came home a lot. 475 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: I came home a lot also, and not because she 476 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: was asking me to come home, but I would just 477 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: come home a lot. Yeah, so we could be together 478 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: and I would like go like visit me. I would 479 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: like not be in school, and like it would be 480 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: like it's Tuesday, not on break, like what are you 481 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: doing here? Like? Yeah, it was it was real, real 482 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: rough separation anxiety and you weren't but you were close, 483 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: you were She wasn't too far away, right she was 484 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: in Maryland Baltimore. Oh yeah, no, it was a it 485 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: was a absconded. Yeah, no, I was. I was out 486 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: but you could get there. Yeah, yeah. I took a train, train, 487 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: and then when did you start stand up? When did 488 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 1: I become a star? I started stand up when I 489 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: was like twenty three, right right after school, righttty much 490 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: right after college. Yeah, and she's probably why that's a 491 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: great question. I mean it is. It's a very brave 492 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: thing to do. I mean, to stand up and be funny, 493 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: and you know, it's it's a masochistic thing. I was 494 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: gonna say, I'm going to take the leap. Yeah. I mean, 495 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: you're friends with a bunch of stand ups, you know, 496 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: like they're the most delightful, mentally ill people, you know, 497 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: probably I uh, I was funny, like I was a 498 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: funny kid and all that. You know, when you just 499 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: have a little something that people just laugh when they 500 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: see you. And uh, I mean, no one has it 501 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: more than you, Goldie, because you know it's crazy on them. Well, 502 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: I would be real about it and do a stand 503 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: up though, because you didn't even have to talk. You 504 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: just stood there and everyone was hysterical, laughing and loving you. 505 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: But I feel like I had that little thing. And 506 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: then so I tried to improv and that was not 507 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: for me. And then one of the girls the improv troupe, 508 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: one of the girls she was like fifty. She did 509 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: stand up and I went to see her. She's really bad, 510 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: and I was like, well, I think I could do 511 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: better than that. I just tried it. Just delusion and 512 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: you know your first stand up experience were you Was 513 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: it scary or was it in your mind just sort 514 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: of okay, let's let's see what this is. It was 515 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: physically scary, yeah, it was like, you know, it wasn't 516 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: the stage right of people looking at you, but it 517 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: was okay, like you know, you just get up and talk, 518 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: you know. And so I wrote a little set and 519 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: it wasn't good, but I was likable enough that it 520 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: went okay. Were you there? I don't know if I 521 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: at your very first. I don't know if it was 522 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: at your very but you you say that like a lot, 523 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: that it wasn't very good or whatever or that like 524 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: you were like not good right away, Like I think 525 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: you were so good because you love me. No, I 526 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: think I mean you're like, no one's good. You were 527 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: so funny and like you're like the things that you 528 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: were talking about were funny and like people laughed right away, 529 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: and some people get up. Some people get up and 530 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: it's crickets, like you got up some people and you're 531 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: literally like why are you doing it? And then yeah 532 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: and they and they go, I'm not gonna sorry. You 533 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: know what, I'm going to your life ever said you 534 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: were funny. I don't even think you're the funniest one 535 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: of your friends, right right you You got up and 536 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: people were like, like, they laughed, they liked me, but 537 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: I wasn't good. But you don't get good at stand 538 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: up for years. It's not that. Yeah, you weren't good 539 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: at stand up, but you were funny up there, and 540 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: you had like funny things to talk about, like like 541 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: I think I think you're selling yourself short. No, your nice. 542 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: It was bad. I remember one show in Central Park 543 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: summer stage where you were there right three out doors, yes, 544 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: but okay, like three to five thousand people and I 545 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: went up real ready to just destroy and it was, 546 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: you know, a showcase. So I was doing fifteen minutes 547 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: and I could hear out of those thousands of people 548 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: just my mom laughing, you know. So it wasn't even 549 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: like I think the acoustics is the trees. I could 550 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: hear just my mom trying to get everyone to laugh. 551 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I have bombed significantly what happens to you 552 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: after you bomb? No one will make eye contact with you. 553 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: You know, you look to people to be like, was 554 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: that as bad as it felt? You know, and everyone 555 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: just kind of looks at the floor. I've been with 556 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: Amy twice when she's bombed, and this was not at 557 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: the beginning. One is Buffalo, right, or was it you 558 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: bombed in Buffalo? I've bombed. We've all bombed in Buffalo. 559 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: And one was like a private bond. Was that at 560 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: a countrymt a huntry? Oh? This was the first time 561 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: our dad was ever gonna see me do alive, you know, 562 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: because he's like in a wheelchair. You can't always. I 563 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: have seen I have seen Amy like at like a 564 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: sold out arena, like people crying, laughing, just like like 565 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: a stadium erupting and laughter. And nothing compares to the 566 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: feeling of elation that I feel when Amy has just 567 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: just just fully room people who are just like no 568 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: and no. And then she gives me, and she gives 569 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: me on stage when she knows she's bombing, and and 570 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: I mean, we're we're dying laughing a moment and Kim 571 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: Kim always goes like this, she dances to the side. 572 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: I look over at her and she's going like this, yeah, 573 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: just it's just it's a moment where it's just like 574 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: and like, what are you gonna do? You gotta stay 575 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: out there, just stay out there. There's nothing you can do, 576 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: because it's also like she knows it's not her fault. 577 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: She's not doing like there's nothing you can about it, 578 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And just but I mean, 579 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: the funny thing is we're still gonna have a lovely evening, 580 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,719 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, we're gonna have a nice evening no 581 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: matter what. It's going to get off stage, it's gonna 582 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: be fine. But just in that moment where I know 583 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: she's got another like twenty two minutes, oh yeah, and 584 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: like you know how those minutes go vibe But comics, 585 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: you know, if if I if you see your friend 586 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: try a new joke and it just bombs, like there's 587 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: nothing funnier, you know, you know, no, exactly, friend Kyle, 588 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: our friend Kyle, who yeah, Kyle, get for a We 589 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: like have made him do this one joke that we 590 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: know is gonna bomb. It's convince him, like no, it's 591 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: so fun. You have to do, please, you have to 592 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: do you have to do it. And he'll not good. 593 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: It never gets long, this crowd like trust you have 594 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: to do it was the crowd like you have to 595 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: do And he'll get on stage and he'll do the 596 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: joke no and it ruins the set and he'll look 597 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: over to us, so we'll be like yeah, and we're 598 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: like it's the best feelings. Oh my god. You know. 599 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: The one thing I have to say about comedians and 600 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: particularly stand up but you know that moves into acting 601 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: as well whatever, is that there's a lot of tragedy 602 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: and sadness in their life and it part of what 603 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: makes us survive is how we laugh at certain stuff 604 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: that literally other people would look at and go, how 605 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: did you get through it? Well? Because we have some 606 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: weird sense of humor about life and it's always been there. 607 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: But that's why I said, like with all the stuff 608 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: you know from our childhood, truly, like looking back, it's 609 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 1: never like I never remember us like collapsing into each 610 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: other in sorrow. It's always it's always like how we 611 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 1: were just like yikes, and we move on. You know, 612 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: you're so thet THET You're so lucky. I mean to 613 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: have that because it's even like what you're saying like 614 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: you're up there bombing, you're laughing, your asshole, you're looking 615 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: at me through and she's it and the reality is 616 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: is like okay, like we've been through so much more exactly. 617 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: There were times I've been doing stand up for fifteen years, 618 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: and you know, probably in my first ten there were 619 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: just some and a heckler would come at me and 620 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: I would go, I think you guys have seen me 621 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: do stand up? I feel like I did I lose it. 622 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: I did anything happen where I'm okay, no, But you know, 623 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: because other people the professional thing that's nice for the 624 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: audience is to say something that gets a laugh and 625 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: move on. But it triggers me. It has triggered me 626 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: in a way where I'm like, what you know? And 627 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: then it just gets ugly. Have you gone at someone 628 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: to the point where I felt bad later? Have you 629 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 1: ever seen me like? I mean, I don't. I mean, 630 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say you'd feel bad later. I think I 631 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't qualify with that. A couple of times I felt 632 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: bad later. Really yeah, I don't think you should up 633 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: for years. I think they should shut right on the 634 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: fuck up. Remember that show and Chicago and that girl, Tatiana, 635 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: it's not the time and night girl. Yeah, I think 636 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: about the bats thing all the time. This girl's in 637 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: the front row in Chicago. That's how I get out 638 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: of it. And she was. It was like toward the 639 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: end of the show. It had been a really good 640 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: show and the audience was happy and I feel good, 641 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: and this girl, I think, just got real drunk by 642 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: the end and was like like yelling for me to 643 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: like show my booth or my vagina or something like. 644 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: She's like like it was just really dark, and I 645 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: tried to get her to be quiet and she wouldn't. 646 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: And then I was like, when's the last time you 647 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: saw your dad? Oh my? Oh yeah, oh yeah, I 648 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: mean I went and I don't that sounds awesome, that 649 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 1: sounds great. But you know what Chris, I know, but 650 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: Chris says Chris Rockets a quote. He's like, if ignorance 651 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: is bliss, then what's the opposite of that. It's you know, 652 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: comics see or performer, you know, you see everything, like 653 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: it's our job to read other people, and so that's 654 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: it's the opposite of bliss. It's like kind of a hell. 655 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: But god, I haven't heard that quote. Oh the best 656 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: like dramatic performances that I've seen recently have been by 657 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: like people who are typically like comedic actors, And I 658 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: just think that it's like that, like kind of like 659 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: what we were talking about, how like comedians and people 660 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 1: who are really funny have this way of handling dark 661 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 1: things and kind of perceiving darkness and doing something with 662 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: that that I think translates to drama in such a 663 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: distinct and clear and beautiful way. The best comics are 664 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 1: really vulnerable, I think, yeah, and really kind of gets 665 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: to the crux of things. And that's why I think that, 666 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 1: you know, like like Odin Kirk's performance on Better Call Saul, 667 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm just like I'm blown away by it so much, 668 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 1: and like he's so funny, and I just I really 669 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: like this trend of seeing like these like really comedic 670 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: people being cast in these dramatic roles, and I just 671 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: I think it's like such an exciting thing. Well, it's 672 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: the other side of comedy. Yeah, and we you know, 673 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: you possess the darkness, you know. I'm you know, I've 674 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: gone out there and I've been funny most of my life, right, 675 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: even though my mother didn't think I was funny. But 676 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: well that's why. Yeah, no, exactly, they're not that funny. 677 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: But you know, like my favorite author, my favorite poets, 678 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: my favorite thing are dark you know, will Go for instance, 679 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: you know, and I just I'm much more attracted to 680 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 1: that sort of the underworld, what what really is going on? 681 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: Where does pain come from? And it is it's just why, 682 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: it's like the it's like the clown, you know, it's 683 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: like the gestures Gesters court gestures, knew everything. You know. 684 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: I personally think that it's much harder to be funny 685 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: than it is to be oh my god. Yeah, I 686 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 1: mean it's much funnier. And and by the way, when 687 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: Amy Schumer cries, so do we same with all all 688 00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: u ho's I mean seriously sort of when we cry us. 689 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: But but you know, in a movie like and I've 690 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: told you this before, but How to Lose a Guy 691 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,439 Speaker 1: in Ten Days, like that is such a classic, amazing 692 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: comedy that I feel like I have, you know, taken 693 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: so much from uh and like I don't know, it's 694 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 1: like a classic, it's like a it was on the 695 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 1: other day when I was getting my nails done, brag, 696 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: got my nails up. Everyone. It's just like everyone loves 697 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: that movie and it's hilarious. It's hilarious and you're also 698 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: heartbreaking it it makes you feel good and it's relatable. Yeah, 699 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: I mean I love that movie. I love it too. 700 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 1: I loved making that movie. Yeah. It was also really 701 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: fun because that was one of those movies where we 702 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: wrote every you know, you had your set pieces, but 703 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: I really like in order for them to come to life, 704 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: there was a lot that had the ad libbing and 705 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: everything that I don't sell it. No, everything I was 706 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: doing was it wasn't written. You know. It set me 707 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: up for like the best my favorite kind of stuff, 708 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: which is just like going you know and proper. It 709 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: was also like kind of like revolutionary because it was like, 710 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: you know, I just felt like as women, we were 711 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 1: just all supposed to like you want to try to 712 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: get a guy and you know, do a good job 713 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: and don't be too loud and don't be you know, 714 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: just be pretty and whatever. That's just like what it 715 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: felt like society song is to do. And then it 716 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: just felt kind of revolutionary to see a woman like 717 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: breaking all the rules, like I'm going to go so 718 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: far into that lane, you know, just yeah, because I'm 719 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: because we're just as smart as you. We're smarter, you know. Yeah, 720 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: that makes me feel good. Oh my god. How often 721 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 1: do you guys talk a day? Every probably every day, 722 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: especially every every day. Then sometimes not for a couple 723 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: of days. But we talk a lot, yeah, depending on 724 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: like I mean sometimes like there's just like a lot 725 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: going on. We are like who like I call it. 726 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: I was like, can I complain for like thirty minutes? 727 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: And she's like definitely clean. Yeah. And then also we 728 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: have an app called Polo like Marco Baro Yeah, which 729 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: is just which is just so good because sometimes you know, 730 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 1: like like we don't maybe have like little video yeah, 731 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: like enough to say to have like a full like 732 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: conversation or whatever, but it's just like quick things or 733 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: whatever where like I need her to see Like she's 734 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 1: like I got a new plant that she needs me 735 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: to see, and I need You're gonna need to see that, yeah, 736 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: And I'm like yes, and then you know, but it's 737 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: always keeping in touch. This is what I feel like 738 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 1: is like a beautiful part of our sisterhood. A couple 739 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 1: of years ago, I called her at like five PM 740 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: and I complained about some you know, some shit for 741 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 1: like twenty minutes and it's five PM, and she goes, 742 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: it's my birthday. No, this so so this is okay, 743 00:41:55,200 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 1: it's this is my favorite. This is my favorite conversation. Okay, 744 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: it is five, it is five twenty two. We talked 745 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: for such a long time. She's just like talking to 746 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 1: him like yeah, like oh my god, totally and she's like, okay, 747 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: I have to go. I'm going this thing whatever, what 748 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: else is going on? What are you doing tonight? And 749 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 1: I went, well, it's my birthday, so and then both laughing. 750 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,959 Speaker 1: We laughed for so and it's just like, but that's 751 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, and it's like and you see like you 752 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,839 Speaker 1: see in like movies and shows or whatever where it's 753 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: like that would like cause a fight or something like right, 754 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: but that's also not our language of love. We're not 755 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 1: like gifts are not our Oh what is your language 756 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: of love? I love this act of what I did 757 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,720 Speaker 1: not know how you were going to finish that. Okay, okay, 758 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,240 Speaker 1: a service, really acts service that your number one actually 759 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,479 Speaker 1: acts of service is probably my number one. I don't 760 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 1: know what. And that's my husband's number one too, And 761 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: it's so funny because wait, you don't know what this 762 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: is at all. Oh okay, you like figure out your 763 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: love language, like sort of how you express I love 764 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:09,879 Speaker 1: words of affirmation. But Chris doesn't. My husband doesn't care, 765 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: like like it does nothing for him. So I'll be like, 766 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 1: you are such a great husband. I'm I feel lucky 767 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: every day. I love you so much. You're such a 768 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,919 Speaker 1: good dad. And he's like, can you turn the lights off? 769 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: Like he doesn't care, He doesn't, it doesn't it does 770 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: nothing for him. I hear that, And I don't have 771 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,760 Speaker 1: to see you for a week. Yeah, Kim's physical touch. No, 772 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 1: that was an act. I know. I'm gonna barn this. Okay. 773 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: Will you tell the story about how you guys started 774 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: working together? Oh my god, yes, So I was. I was. 775 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 1: I was working as a school psychologist in Chicago. And 776 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: Amy head she was very good at it. It was 777 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: very Yeah, it was a kids loved an act, like 778 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:05,800 Speaker 1: an act to functioning there, I know. And and Amy 779 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: had just like Comedy Central had just like been like 780 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 1: you're you know, given her a TV show and she 781 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: called me and she was like, I want you to 782 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: come and write for the TV show And I was 783 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: like no, it was like I'm busy. I was like, 784 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that, you know, because like 785 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,839 Speaker 1: I just like started a new school, a new job 786 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: or whatever. I was like, if you get picked up 787 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,359 Speaker 1: for a second season, I'll come to it. She never 788 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: thought that would happen, really, because every you get picked 789 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 1: up for a year, and those are words of affirmation. 790 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: I was good luck with your comedy. Yeah I was. 791 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 1: I was fully bluffing. I was like, you know, like 792 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,879 Speaker 1: catch you back at waiting tables. And then it's kind 793 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,320 Speaker 1: of like when she got picked up for a second season. 794 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: I could hear it in her voice, like I knew 795 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: you didn't think I was going to make this. She's like, 796 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 1: yues what and she called me. I think she actually said, 797 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: like guess what, bitch. And she was like I got 798 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 1: picked up for it, and I was like yeah, okay. 799 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 1: And so I went in to ask for a sabbatical 800 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: because I was like, okay, I will come for to 801 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 1: write the show with you for six months and then 802 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 1: I'm going back to my life as a school psychologist 803 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: in Chicago. And so I asked she thought I was 804 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: going to make it six more months in the business 805 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 1: six Well, no, because I just I was coming, you know, 806 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: like I was going to just try it. I was, 807 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,359 Speaker 1: you know, and so I asked for a sabbatical and 808 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: uh and my principal was like, yeah, I'm sure the 809 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 1: school board will be fine with that, like you know, 810 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 1: you're you're great, we love you here. And the school 811 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 1: board was like no, And I was like, oh, I 812 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: guess I quit and they're like oh. I was like 813 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 1: all right, bye, and so I I quit, you know, 814 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: I quit. Yeah, And so I had to like but 815 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, like when really it wasn't like this was 816 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: a career change at all. It was like I am 817 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 1: going to just like go and like try this thing. 818 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: So I like talk to my husband and it was 819 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 1: it wasn't like we're moving in New York. I was like, 820 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna like go do this thing for six months, 821 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: like you stay here and like work and like be 822 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: with the dog, and I'll like fly home every other 823 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 1: weekend for what was supposed to be. We rented Jake 824 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:27,280 Speaker 1: Jillenhall's apartment and try baca and did you find anything 825 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 1: weird inside of his Oh? We we try that place 826 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 1: closet we got we got a phone call about like 827 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 1: shoes one day. Who We're like, yes, like there was 828 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 1: just no evidence of him at all, Like, yeah, I 829 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: mean the only thing that was left was a frozen 830 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 1: birthday cake in his freezer, which when I would get drunk, 831 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: I would not. And then we eventually made a video 832 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 1: like where I was pretending like I was at the 833 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: party where the kid had as his guest and I'm like, hi, Jake, 834 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like too, I think it was something. Yeah, yeah, 835 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,279 Speaker 1: but we had a great and we went we went 836 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 1: to Berry's boot camp. Really skinny. I've never been to 837 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 1: Berry's boot camp in Night, Maryland. I feel like it 838 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: might be kind of fun. It's good if you're young 839 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 1: and you've never experienced trauma. Yeah, but no, it's I 840 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 1: mean depending on like my body. If I did it, 841 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,280 Speaker 1: I would need to be fully taken out to stretch. 842 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,840 Speaker 1: It was. It was great. That's cool, but it is fun. 843 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 1: It's hard. It's hard, and then you feel you feel great. 844 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, so you can't. I slept with our instructor. Well, 845 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 1: then it was awesome. I want not only don't take 846 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 1: that out, I want that twice. Can you do? Can 847 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 1: you play it and then play it again? Lucky girl? Please, 848 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm proud that you you started working. So I came 849 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 1: and then like it was kind of like we realized that, like, oh, 850 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 1: like you're actually doing I'm actually doing this, and like 851 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,359 Speaker 1: I was like like good, and and then it was 852 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 1: like I was going to just be there for the writing, 853 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 1: and then it was like, oh, like I should also 854 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 1: be here for when we're shooting this, because like that 855 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: would be good too, And then it was going to 856 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 1: be like right from there, Amy was going to go 857 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 1: and start like working on train Wreck, and she was like, hey, 858 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: like can you also like come and do this as well? 859 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 1: Then this idiot's living in l A. And then so 860 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 1: those apartments called the oak Woods. Then it's looking like 861 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 1: this is what we're going to do. So then I 862 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,279 Speaker 1: and I was like hey, and then they gave him 863 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 1: a fucking sabbatical. I was like, your people gave you 864 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,240 Speaker 1: a sabbatical. And so so he and my my dog 865 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 1: and we all like went to l A. And and 866 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:59,320 Speaker 1: then that was you're here and I'm in Connecticut. Yeah yeah, yeah, fun, 867 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,840 Speaker 1: and then I need to be back. I'm so happy 868 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 1: to be back. Oh my god. It's been so nice 869 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 1: because I just like I come here. I'm here probably 870 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 1: like once a month on average more. Yeah, it's it's 871 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:15,399 Speaker 1: been it's been so nice you're at that close proximity. Yeah. Well, 872 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: the day that Jean, that that Gene was born, I 873 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 1: was I was here or whatever. And then because he 874 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: wasn't going to be here to the next week, I 875 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, see next week, and I went home 876 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,360 Speaker 1: and then Amy Collin was like hey, actually, and I 877 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 1: was like okay, and I came right back. You know, 878 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,240 Speaker 1: if I was in Chicago, I know that couldn't have happened. 879 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,479 Speaker 1: You know. It's just it's it's so nice being this close. 880 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 1: I love it. It's you run on everything by each 881 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 1: other pretty much. No, no, no, not really, it's no, 882 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 1: we're it's nice. We were We do run a lot. 883 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 1: I run a lot of Is this behavior I did unacceptable? Yeah? Yeah, 884 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 1: you know I'll say, you know what we That's what 885 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,720 Speaker 1: we do with each other. We go like was I wrong? 886 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 1: It's a lot of was I wrong? And she will 887 00:49:55,040 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 1: most of the time say you were wrong? Yeah. For Sigmatic, 888 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:08,880 Speaker 1: for Sigmatic. 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That's third love dot com slash sibling for 940 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:24,399 Speaker 1: fifteen percent off today. Is there any part of you 941 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 1: when you're thinking about parenting or after having the baby, 942 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 1: after having gene go, you know, I'm going to do 943 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 1: something very differently than how I was raised. Does that 944 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,320 Speaker 1: Is that an active thought for you? Yeah? An active 945 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,960 Speaker 1: thought for me is you know, I'm like I've never 946 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 1: I haven't yet like spent the night away from him, 947 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 1: and I have a hard time leaving and even for 948 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 1: a couple hours for work, just leaving the room. You know, 949 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 1: that guilt and the shame and the and I have 950 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 1: been teaching myself like you're not that important, you know, 951 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,719 Speaker 1: like just a mom is very important. But it's like, 952 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,879 Speaker 1: don't make him, don't make yourself this important to him. 953 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 1: In your mind, and don't you know. I still want 954 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 1: to be present and be a great mom, but I 955 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,920 Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want like, I don't want 956 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 1: to make myself his life. You don't really say things 957 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,319 Speaker 1: like Mama loves you or like you know, stuff like that, 958 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 1: like like, yeah, you don't really put yourself in sentences 959 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 1: about him or whatever. It's more like like what do 960 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,759 Speaker 1: you want? And what do you what are you doing? 961 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 1: And everything like that. Yeah, you don't really make it, 962 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 1: which like no, I just want him to be his own. 963 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:45,799 Speaker 1: But I have the same thing. I mean with Ryder, 964 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,759 Speaker 1: I didn't leave until he was two, almost two and 965 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,799 Speaker 1: a half for the first time. I mean I had 966 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,840 Speaker 1: a full on because you want them to feel so 967 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,359 Speaker 1: low secure and it was my own and and and 968 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 1: he I mean, yeah, it was obviously great for him 969 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 1: to have that kind of attachment. And I went everywhere 970 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,239 Speaker 1: with him. I didn't leave. It's called security, right. The 971 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 1: studies have shown that a child who has secure attachment 972 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 1: does very well in life. Yeah, children that don't, their 973 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,799 Speaker 1: trajectory is not very good. Yeah, So theres attachment, and 974 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:19,080 Speaker 1: then there's the other level. Well, then there's there's a 975 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:23,720 Speaker 1: different thing then there's Munchausen. Yeah, yes, but it's between 976 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 1: it's between you know, zero and like two and a 977 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,480 Speaker 1: half years old. That's when that that's when it and 978 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be a mom, that's that's who 979 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,160 Speaker 1: like the learning of Like, you know, he loves his 980 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 1: nanny Jane, and Jane loves him so much. This sounds 981 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 1: like I'm doing Tarzan and Jane. Jane loves Jean, but uh, 982 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,800 Speaker 1: and to not feel weird about that because he loves 983 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,759 Speaker 1: me too, you know. It's like I want him to 984 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 1: love the person, yes, and you want him to know 985 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 1: what love is because that's really important. Yeah. I know 986 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 1: that there's a lot of gals who will have babies 987 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 1: and they become jealous of their nanny and then the 988 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,239 Speaker 1: baby wants the nanny and doesn't want the mommy. Yeah. 989 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:13,600 Speaker 1: I remember thinking that child is learning how to love. Yeah, 990 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,759 Speaker 1: and as many people as this kid, my babies can love. 991 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,719 Speaker 1: It's the greatest thing ever more fearlessly love. Yeah, you know, 992 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,239 Speaker 1: and I never felt like that because you always know 993 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 1: the child is always going to love you. Unfortunately, no 994 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,840 Speaker 1: matter what, you can't shake them right, you know, like 995 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,320 Speaker 1: they would feel better if you were there all the time, 996 00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 1: but just making sure it's not about me. I also 997 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,759 Speaker 1: try to remind people too. It's a funny thing because 998 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,279 Speaker 1: when people go, oh, you you know, have nannies or 999 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:47,279 Speaker 1: helpy whatever. I always say, people don't realize that we 1000 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,680 Speaker 1: weren't supposed to do this on our own. Like we were. 1001 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:55,479 Speaker 1: We were all in a tp together raising each other's children. Work. 1002 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 1: We had to work, we had to farm, we had 1003 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 1: to everybody chipped in. Everybody was ya. I was always 1004 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 1: were always helping each other with our with childberry was 1005 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 1: what we did it. For some reason, now one woman, 1006 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 1: one woman is supposed to be everything to all the children, 1007 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 1: and it's impossible. You know, it's impossible. You're you're asking 1008 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 1: the impossible of it goes against it. I don't even 1009 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,080 Speaker 1: know what's based instinct. Was there like a time in 1010 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 1: consumerism where there was like that woman that were I mean, 1011 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,320 Speaker 1: it's it's such a lie. I mean, I I don't, 1012 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 1: I mean it had to be. I mean, I'm sure. 1013 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,640 Speaker 1: I remember I did this film Swing Shift right yea, 1014 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,920 Speaker 1: and that movie was all about what happened during the 1015 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,320 Speaker 1: Second World War, well with these women and we all 1016 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,440 Speaker 1: went in and it was Rosie the riveter, and they 1017 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,520 Speaker 1: became they got jobs right, and they suddenly became sort 1018 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 1: of actualized and in many ways sexualized, and ways that 1019 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 1: they could fix their own toaster, and they became independent. 1020 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,560 Speaker 1: And what was interesting about the notion of the movie 1021 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,000 Speaker 1: is is that they had all the propaganda about the 1022 00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:59,520 Speaker 1: end of the movie, which it shows is that they 1023 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 1: have new shwashers, they had no washing machines, and they 1024 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 1: brought women back into the kitchen. They wanted to bring 1025 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,720 Speaker 1: them back in and this was sort of the theme 1026 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,680 Speaker 1: of the movie. It's the theme of messaging and no exactly. 1027 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 1: So it was like luring them back into that world 1028 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:22,360 Speaker 1: of service and not any the self sparkly a sparkle 1029 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 1: and a lovely a lovely little apron, lovely Apron. But 1030 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 1: we're only just coming out of the that now. I 1031 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 1: feel like these last couple of years where everybody's eyes 1032 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:37,400 Speaker 1: are really open to how insane we got used to 1033 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 1: being treated. Oh yeah, everybody felt like it was okay. 1034 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 1: I feel like it's still really well. I have to 1035 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:48,280 Speaker 1: say too, when you came on the scene and the 1036 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 1: things that you were talking about, and I remember the oh, okay, 1037 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 1: so this is going to change the dialogue of how 1038 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 1: women talk about themselves. And I think you had a huge, 1039 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,760 Speaker 1: huge part in that because you were the first woman 1040 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,680 Speaker 1: to be accepted who really came out and was like, 1041 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,360 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to actually just talk about 1042 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 1: how it really is for me as a woman. And 1043 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,240 Speaker 1: and I think Vagina was in there somewhere. Vagina was 1044 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 1: But you know what, I need to throw it back 1045 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,960 Speaker 1: to you and say that I think that I was 1046 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,840 Speaker 1: really inspired by a lot of your work, like just 1047 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 1: that's the truth. That would nobody like to take a 1048 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,640 Speaker 1: compliment and and and you know you weren't at all 1049 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:33,080 Speaker 1: in any way and influence. So I'm sorry about that. No, 1050 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 1: but I mean that's really cool because that's exactly how 1051 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 1: I feel. But you, but you did make it okay 1052 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 1: for a lot of women to feel like, oh I 1053 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,920 Speaker 1: can be more truthful like a human. Yeah. Yeah. The 1054 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,880 Speaker 1: audacity of ye trying to be treated like a yes, 1055 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 1: well gosh, the audacity of just deciding that you wanted 1056 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,919 Speaker 1: to make a movie that you know you had to 1057 00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,800 Speaker 1: figure out how to be the leader and you say 1058 00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:02,240 Speaker 1: I want to produce, yeah, produce, yeah, just st right. 1059 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,760 Speaker 1: It really was a double edged sort and these women yesterday. 1060 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,520 Speaker 1: I just you know, this is where it's like. But 1061 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:15,320 Speaker 1: these women are from this uh they're the you know, 1062 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:19,280 Speaker 1: they grow tomatoes, they harvest the tomatoes in Florida. They're 1063 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:24,120 Speaker 1: like this the Mocholy Coalition, this tribe and these women 1064 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 1: from from Guatemala. Like what if I was like the 1065 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 1: person who tried to say it right from Watemala, Like 1066 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,960 Speaker 1: I just hit it hard anyway, and you're like, oh, 1067 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 1: they But anyway, they're these farm workers and they make 1068 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 1: about thirteen grand a year, you know, and they fought 1069 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 1: and eighty percent of these workers get assaulted in the field. 1070 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's sexually assault in the field, starting at 1071 01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:58,720 Speaker 1: fourteen years old. Anyway, they got together and they came 1072 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:02,640 Speaker 1: up with the Fair Food Act. So just there's oversight 1073 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 1: and so you can you know, and so the tomatoes 1074 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,440 Speaker 1: on this burgers that you get from McDonald's or Burger 1075 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,800 Speaker 1: King or all these places signed on for the Fair 1076 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,240 Speaker 1: Food Act, so you know that those workers are protected. 1077 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 1: And then there's some places like Wendy's or Publics or 1078 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,000 Speaker 1: Kroger's that are like, we're not signing on to that. 1079 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:26,640 Speaker 1: But like these women band together and made this change, 1080 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:31,440 Speaker 1: you know, and just seeing another woman act like a 1081 01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 1: human and demand to be treated just like bare minimum 1082 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 1: like a human, it really inspires other people to do that. 1083 01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,120 Speaker 1: And I felt that from you guys, you know, and 1084 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,040 Speaker 1: hearing that you guys felt it for me. It's cool. 1085 01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:48,800 Speaker 1: I think it's the dialogue. Everything is happening, but there 1086 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 1: still is this little part of me that every time 1087 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,000 Speaker 1: I walk into a room, you know, it's a little 1088 01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:02,080 Speaker 1: bit like, don't don't now, just be this one thing right, 1089 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:03,960 Speaker 1: And you're like, I'm not trying to be rude, but 1090 01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,560 Speaker 1: I created all of these jobs. I mean, you are 1091 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:11,240 Speaker 1: essentially a job creator. Yeah right. I'd be doing like 1092 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,280 Speaker 1: an arena. I'd be like about to do you know 1093 01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,840 Speaker 1: where the basketball teams play and the people backstage it 1094 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 1: would be like square Garden, baby, and it's like, oh, 1095 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,560 Speaker 1: do you you need this? You complain about that the 1096 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:28,000 Speaker 1: music is not loud enough or whatever. I'm like, yeah, 1097 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,160 Speaker 1: yes I am. These people are here because I'm here, 1098 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:35,439 Speaker 1: you know, like you treat the guys. I sometimes sit 1099 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,720 Speaker 1: very quietly and I watch some of my male peers 1100 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:43,360 Speaker 1: do certain things, and I do clock them, like if 1101 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:47,480 Speaker 1: I did that, I did that, I did that that 1102 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:53,840 Speaker 1: would ever go over say it would be pop it 1103 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:58,040 Speaker 1: happened anyway, not saying it doesn't even like occur to them, 1104 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,360 Speaker 1: Like there's not a moment before they say something that 1105 01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:05,000 Speaker 1: they're like should I? Maybe not like there's no Yeah, 1106 01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,840 Speaker 1: this is a little That's what is so fascinating to 1107 01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,160 Speaker 1: me that they're not like should I. It's just like 1108 01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 1: thought here it is, you know, I'm just like that's 1109 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:18,120 Speaker 1: why I love in like a Beyonce documentary or Nicki 1110 01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,880 Speaker 1: Minaj or just or tailors but whatever. There's those moments 1111 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,840 Speaker 1: where you see them stand up for themselves and it's like, oh, 1112 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:28,200 Speaker 1: it's a little alarming to see, but I know. But 1113 01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,920 Speaker 1: it's also like, can you believe we actually have like 1114 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,440 Speaker 1: it's been as bad as it has. Yeah, well, by 1115 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:39,720 Speaker 1: the way, I mean, have you been here in this generation? Yeah, 1116 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,120 Speaker 1: it's we like to think that the needle has moved, 1117 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:47,880 Speaker 1: but very slowly. Yeah, I mean it's just the way 1118 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:52,160 Speaker 1: it is, you know, every single relationships as well. Yeah, 1119 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 1: and part and wealthy in a relationship. Yeah. That's another one, 1120 01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,400 Speaker 1: which is like you want to feel like a girl, 1121 01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 1: you want to be sexy, you want to be this 1122 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,120 Speaker 1: and that, you want to figure out how to make 1123 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:07,200 Speaker 1: it all right, And it's very tough to be really 1124 01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:11,400 Speaker 1: successful and in the world and hold a relationship. I 1125 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:13,680 Speaker 1: very much. But for you, it's like you were the 1126 01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:18,520 Speaker 1: epitome of adorable and bubbly and giggly, and it must 1127 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,480 Speaker 1: have been so hard for people to also accept you 1128 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:30,120 Speaker 1: as as a smart human business intelligen Like, really, if 1129 01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,439 Speaker 1: I get if I laugh at all and amating, it's 1130 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:37,320 Speaker 1: just I go right back to zero air ahead. It's 1131 01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:41,280 Speaker 1: like you have to make a choice, you can exactly. Yeah. 1132 01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,720 Speaker 1: I figured if I walked in like showing my teeth 1133 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,919 Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be upset. You know. See I never 1134 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,160 Speaker 1: got brasist, so I would have that like see the 1135 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,760 Speaker 1: bottom here, Like, yeah, I would have that very intimidating 1136 01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:59,960 Speaker 1: bottom row. Our sponsor is locks. Okay. Advice sisters who 1137 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:05,760 Speaker 1: want to work together? Oh do it? That's it. Good advice, Okay, 1138 01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 1: do it. One word to describe the other? One word 1139 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:22,720 Speaker 1: fat the other? Oh sorry, less fat? No? Uh hilarious, funny. 1140 01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:30,960 Speaker 1: Who's better at following rules? Me? Yeah, kim? One word 1141 01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:45,720 Speaker 1: to describe each other at twelve? Who texts the other more? Me? Yeah? 1142 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:52,880 Speaker 1: Maybe you text more? I call him more. Favorite book 1143 01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:57,800 Speaker 1: Harry Potter your favorite book TV? Yeah, I love it. 1144 01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:03,280 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen it? I've turned on television? Yea, 1145 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:12,080 Speaker 1: Oh god, who's an easier person to make laugh? Oh? 1146 01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:16,120 Speaker 1: She's a really good laugh Mom is the easiest to 1147 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:20,000 Speaker 1: make laugh for us? And oh? Really? Yeah? Then I'm 1148 01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm second. I think, yeah, I bet who can come 1149 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:30,680 Speaker 1: up with a better punchline? Amy Kim the closer on 1150 01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:32,800 Speaker 1: our TV show because she would always think of the 1151 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:37,040 Speaker 1: closing punchline, which is the hardest. And I'm just good 1152 01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:41,360 Speaker 1: at like little like he laughed, Like you're reading a 1153 01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,400 Speaker 1: book that's funny. Isn't it interesting? Though? Because sometimes a 1154 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:49,280 Speaker 1: punchline is just a look and those are the best. Yeah, 1155 01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,440 Speaker 1: it's so cool. Who is more likely to suggest taking 1156 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:56,800 Speaker 1: a photo? Me? Oh yeah, yeah, well I was gonna 1157 01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,040 Speaker 1: say that. We don't really. We both like proof of life, 1158 01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,840 Speaker 1: you know, like if we're having a nice moment, like 1159 01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:04,880 Speaker 1: we don't want it to end, it's like, somebody take 1160 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,400 Speaker 1: a picture of this, like you want to look at 1161 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:13,600 Speaker 1: it later. Most disagreed on topic. Most disagreed on topic. 1162 01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, like like traveling, Like 1163 01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:21,600 Speaker 1: what do you guys disagree? I would say I want 1164 01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:26,600 Speaker 1: her to travel doing things like activities, and she thinks 1165 01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,560 Speaker 1: that I should like teach our dog how to go 1166 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:35,480 Speaker 1: to the bathroom outside. I have, I have, I have 1167 01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,400 Speaker 1: been pretty firm on that, and I just don't see 1168 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,160 Speaker 1: that for her. I don't see that for her, And 1169 01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:47,520 Speaker 1: by the look she doesn't, she's not. I had a 1170 01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,200 Speaker 1: little one too, and I think it's also just a 1171 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,760 Speaker 1: lazy parent. Because I had a lot of peepee pads. 1172 01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,320 Speaker 1: I was like, no, she's fine, she's pads all over 1173 01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:01,720 Speaker 1: and that if the peepee pads old, we're fall We're 1174 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,640 Speaker 1: taken as a suggestion. No rugs are the new pepe 1175 01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:08,920 Speaker 1: pad is just rugs. I close my bedroom door here. Yeah, 1176 01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:13,360 Speaker 1: who has a better poker face? Amy? What? Oh? I poker? Me? 1177 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,600 Speaker 1: But in life? Amy in life? Me in life? Me. 1178 01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,679 Speaker 1: But she's actually at actual poker. He's an actual better 1179 01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,240 Speaker 1: poker face. If but okay, if they had to eat 1180 01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:27,679 Speaker 1: one fast food forever, what would it be. We're just nothing. 1181 01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,640 Speaker 1: We're just both going pasta it's both just yeah, we 1182 01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,800 Speaker 1: would skip the best food. This is fun. It is 1183 01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:38,920 Speaker 1: so fun. One thing you can do your sister can't, Oh, 1184 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:47,320 Speaker 1: make a man orgasm. I haven't I've been googling. I 1185 01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:51,519 Speaker 1: read a book. No, that's why I don't have any kids. 1186 01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:58,320 Speaker 1: I can do. I can open a bottle of wine. Yeah, 1187 01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:03,200 Speaker 1: make like a cocktail. Yeah, you can function in society. 1188 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:10,160 Speaker 1: Now what can you do that I can't? You can't. Yeah, 1189 01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:15,360 Speaker 1: I have I have better like long term Wait, you 1190 01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:18,200 Speaker 1: have a really good memory memory? She tested my I 1191 01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,759 Speaker 1: Q once. Yeah, she's a school psychologist, and I tested 1192 01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,840 Speaker 1: in some categories as a true genius, and then in 1193 01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:29,160 Speaker 1: some categories as if I no offense to anyone, but 1194 01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,160 Speaker 1: like as if I had down syndrome. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1195 01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:35,240 Speaker 1: but it's not a dig. That's the numbers. It was 1196 01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:39,440 Speaker 1: numbers of statistic But what your your my my word recognition, 1197 01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,840 Speaker 1: like if I read if I read a list of words, 1198 01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,439 Speaker 1: I'll have full confidence, but I'll read them wrong. Yeah. Yeah, 1199 01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,960 Speaker 1: so your short term memory and my memory is good. 1200 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,640 Speaker 1: Your long term memory is great. But her ability to 1201 01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:54,040 Speaker 1: attend and focus on something is like it's almost non existent. 1202 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,400 Speaker 1: So that's something that I can do. Really, she has 1203 01:09:56,439 --> 01:10:01,799 Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, who gives better relationship advice? Probably you? 1204 01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:06,080 Speaker 1: Probably me career advice. I think it's it's just it's different. 1205 01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,639 Speaker 1: I mean we both have such like narrow we're both 1206 01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,479 Speaker 1: not good at navigating like the business now. We just 1207 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,000 Speaker 1: both like writing and whatever. Yeah, we're both like we 1208 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,639 Speaker 1: could both use a lesson. Yeah yeah, but I mean 1209 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,240 Speaker 1: we're not good at it. But you know because a 1210 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:21,960 Speaker 1: lot of people, a lot of the business in LA 1211 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,000 Speaker 1: it's like people pretending to give notes or something. We're 1212 01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,320 Speaker 1: like fucking idiots and walk out. Yeah, and then they 1213 01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:32,080 Speaker 1: probably they destroy you that they destroy you. My favorite 1214 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,800 Speaker 1: note I ever got on a movie was I just 1215 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:41,040 Speaker 1: don't like bows, and I went, I can't change that. 1216 01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:46,519 Speaker 1: You mean like both like like little Bo's no like 1217 01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:50,160 Speaker 1: bows like on clothes. She didn't like how did they 1218 01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:53,320 Speaker 1: get in any room? We know you're not talking about Pascal. 1219 01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,240 Speaker 1: Play that twice. Play that one twice. If you could 1220 01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:03,479 Speaker 1: do another job, what would it be? A tugboat captain. Oh, 1221 01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,120 Speaker 1: you'd be great at that. I trained in it for 1222 01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,720 Speaker 1: a little while, you know, driving boats. I'd like to 1223 01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:09,599 Speaker 1: do that. I'll do that with you. I can talk 1224 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:14,919 Speaker 1: about your hell people talk about like no, but likes 1225 01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:18,400 Speaker 1: incredible A boat that's incredible, like one like right, and 1226 01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:23,439 Speaker 1: that's really cool hard. I'll just do that with you, guys, Okay, 1227 01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:25,160 Speaker 1: you're going to be able to talk about Yeah, I'll 1228 01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:28,160 Speaker 1: help out on the okay. So our last question is 1229 01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:32,519 Speaker 1: always a two part question and and and each person, 1230 01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:37,160 Speaker 1: each we ask what is it about your sister that 1231 01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:41,320 Speaker 1: is something a characteristic that you wish that you had 1232 01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,120 Speaker 1: more of in your life? And then what is one 1233 01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:49,720 Speaker 1: characteristic that you kind of wish or or sort of 1234 01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,639 Speaker 1: anxiety or something that you wish you could alleviate from 1235 01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,320 Speaker 1: your sister because you knew it would be good for her. 1236 01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:02,559 Speaker 1: Amy is the bravest, most straightforward person I know, and 1237 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:08,679 Speaker 1: I think that that would It's almost like there's something 1238 01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:12,800 Speaker 1: just so unquestionable about how she lives her life that 1239 01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:17,479 Speaker 1: I think would alleviate such anxiety in mine. Like she 1240 01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:22,599 Speaker 1: if there's something, if there's some injustice going on, there's 1241 01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,960 Speaker 1: not even like a question if it's going to be addressed, 1242 01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,360 Speaker 1: Like there's no should I shouldn't I address it or 1243 01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:30,880 Speaker 1: take care of it. Like we were on our way 1244 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:34,240 Speaker 1: home yesterday from something and there were there was like 1245 01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,000 Speaker 1: two guys on the street about to get in a fight, 1246 01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:40,880 Speaker 1: and like she didn't like check in with me about 1247 01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,000 Speaker 1: this or anything like this. She just went and rolled 1248 01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,599 Speaker 1: the window down, she went, cops are coming, the police 1249 01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,720 Speaker 1: are coming, you know, and immediately just like like got 1250 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,679 Speaker 1: it because like a delivery guy was being yelled at, yeh, 1251 01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,720 Speaker 1: And it wasn't even a thought like should I interjeck 1252 01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:59,400 Speaker 1: should I interceed? If if she sees something that's not right, 1253 01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,639 Speaker 1: nothing else fucking matters, She's going to address it and 1254 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,599 Speaker 1: do whatever she can to fix it. And I wish 1255 01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:11,720 Speaker 1: that I had that, Like I'll like I could like 1256 01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:16,680 Speaker 1: I'll probably eventually arrive at some semblance of like the 1257 01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,160 Speaker 1: brave thing to do, but like it's not, It's just 1258 01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,240 Speaker 1: it's just part of her and I have always and 1259 01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,519 Speaker 1: it always has been, and I've just respected that so 1260 01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:29,040 Speaker 1: much and I wish that I had that bravery of myself. 1261 01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:34,439 Speaker 1: And the thing that I would like alleviate from her, 1262 01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:43,519 Speaker 1: I don't know. I have to think about that. I 1263 01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:46,679 Speaker 1: don't know. Can I think for for a hot sec? Well, 1264 01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:53,800 Speaker 1: I'll start with what I would alleviate, which is is 1265 01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:59,720 Speaker 1: holding on to some anger, you know what I mean, 1266 01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,680 Speaker 1: Like I feel like I'm better at like getting rid 1267 01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:06,840 Speaker 1: of my anger, and you know, yeah, like just that's 1268 01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:08,960 Speaker 1: what I would alleviate, Like just a place for you 1269 01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:15,120 Speaker 1: to put your deserved, deserved anger. And what I would 1270 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:26,760 Speaker 1: love to have possessed that Kim possesses is like, I 1271 01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:30,760 Speaker 1: don't know, she has this cool shirt that I really like. 1272 01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:37,080 Speaker 1: It's probably your shirt I stole from you. No, she 1273 01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:43,519 Speaker 1: has a real capacity to love and enjoy people. Like 1274 01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,519 Speaker 1: she doesn't love a lot of people, you know, she 1275 01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:49,960 Speaker 1: doesn't let a lot of people get close to her. 1276 01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:53,080 Speaker 1: But if you are one of the few people that 1277 01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:58,639 Speaker 1: she knows she loves, it's like you feel like you're 1278 01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:02,000 Speaker 1: you're safe and you're gonna you'll be okay no matter what. 1279 01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:12,240 Speaker 1: And she has like made me understand that that we 1280 01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,840 Speaker 1: have each other for life in a way because of 1281 01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:18,799 Speaker 1: you know, being a little older than her experiencing our parents, 1282 01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:23,760 Speaker 1: Like it's pretty incredible that I can even have that. 1283 01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:31,720 Speaker 1: And yeah, she's just really selective and like we can 1284 01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:38,320 Speaker 1: love endlessly in a way that I wish I could more. Anyway, Well, 1285 01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:46,600 Speaker 1: if you should choose to forego your room, come to 1286 01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,680 Speaker 1: the bachelor's suite with me, that's so funny, don't tell 1287 01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:53,360 Speaker 1: us what happened. Were still alleviate thing is actually like 1288 01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:56,679 Speaker 1: a bizarrow twist on the anger thing. Oh, oh my god, 1289 01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:58,880 Speaker 1: you wish I would get more anger. I think you 1290 01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:00,960 Speaker 1: should cut the people out of your life who aren't 1291 01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:05,240 Speaker 1: fucking totally great good to you, and who don't only 1292 01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:09,040 Speaker 1: bring you good positive things. All right, fine, Goldie, get 1293 01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:12,920 Speaker 1: write out note that that really is that? Really? Is 1294 01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,360 Speaker 1: that really is a suggestion that I like that. I 1295 01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:18,920 Speaker 1: really do think that. I think that's actually that's a 1296 01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:23,760 Speaker 1: great certain people anyway, have people in your life cut 1297 01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:25,719 Speaker 1: them out? I think there are a lot of should 1298 01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:29,960 Speaker 1: keep letting it happen. I've cut some out a lot 1299 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,720 Speaker 1: when Jean was born, but I go a couple of 1300 01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:37,000 Speaker 1: and I'd like to be the one. I have moments 1301 01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:38,680 Speaker 1: in my life where I'm like, I do I think 1302 01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:40,479 Speaker 1: about that all the time. I'm like, why am I 1303 01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:45,519 Speaker 1: still in this? Yeah? What? What am I? Yeah? What 1304 01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:47,799 Speaker 1: is it? When people show you who they are? Believe? 1305 01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:53,320 Speaker 1: I believe them. I love you, guys. I love you though. 1306 01:16:53,720 --> 01:17:01,320 Speaker 1: I love you guys. This was so amazing, Oliver. Sorry 1307 01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:07,720 Speaker 1: for your influenza a even though I'm grateful that he's okay. Yeah, 1308 01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:11,920 Speaker 1: but thank you for doing this coming over. I love you, 1309 01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:19,040 Speaker 1: I love you. Sibling Revelry is executive produced by Kate Hudson, 1310 01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:22,920 Speaker 1: Oliver Hudson and sim Sarna. Supervising producer is Alison Presnik. 1311 01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:27,760 Speaker 1: Editor is Josh Wendish. Music by Mark Hudson a k a. 1312 01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:28,840 Speaker 1: Uncle Mike,