1 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: I am Mason, and I'm conducting the safety audit on 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Rainbow Road. I have never seen a place in more 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: desperate need of handrails. Why are the handrails here but 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: not here? 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: I mean, is this on purpose? This is a corner, 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: there's a booster right there, not to mention that the track. 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: Just abruptly ends. I mean, how are you even supposed 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: to Oh, the carts turn into gliders. Well of course 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: they do. Oh yeah, let's just put boosters on the 10 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: outside of the track, right where there's no handrails. Yeah, 11 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: that's a great idea. Can't see anything going wrong there. 12 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: Oh I almost forgot. 13 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: Why are we in space? 14 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: Who approved this? 15 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: Terms? If someone falls off the edge, they're just going 16 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: to be floating in the infinite void forever or burn 17 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: up in the atmosphere. What is this? 18 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: What is this? What is the point of this? 19 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: Oh, you've got a guy. 20 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 2: That sits in a floating cloud and just fishes people 21 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 2: out with a fishing rod and put him back on 22 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 2: the track. 23 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: Now, okay, well you've got that sort, then that's good. 24 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: Let's just say that Mario won't be having too many 25 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: parties once. 26 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: I'm done with him. 27 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunk's 28 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: Podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, December fourteenth, twenty 29 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 2: twenty three. I'm jay E Skeets here in the Classic 30 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 2: Factory and alongside me, as always, Task mellis. 31 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: My guest listeners. This is for you. 32 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 2: Next to him, it's the Bearded One, A touch of 33 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: hot Boy Trick Kirby Hey hey oh, and over yonder 34 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 2: the man making the magic happen, super producer jd. Hello, 35 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: there he is, and here we are. Shout out to 36 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 2: the stream team joining us live right now on YouTube. 37 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: Hit that like button, make sure you subscribe and comment 38 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: away there with each other. We got a lot to 39 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: talk about today. Oh my goodness, the NBA was on one. 40 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: Shout out to all the podcast listeners as well. I 41 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: always want to slip that in there. I leave your 42 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: boys a five star rating and review. But before we 43 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 2: get to everything, we did have another weggie, so that's good, 44 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: A bit of a weird one. Weggie number thirteen Anthony Davis, 45 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: you know, tipping up the defensive rebound there. 46 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 3: After slipping it looked like he may be injured. Their 47 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 3: first couple of minutes of the game. 48 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: It's scary. 49 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. But he came back and well 50 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: and we got another weggie. So we're on pace for 51 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: forty four. Starting to tick up here, which was really great. 52 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: Is the last couple of weeks. 53 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 3: I feel like all the announcers these days are calling 54 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: it wedgies. It's happening more and more. Bill Land on 55 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: the call there for this burst called it a wedgie 56 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 3: previous night. People are calling a weggie thanks to us. 57 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: That's true. I'll head on the back to us. Okay, 58 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: before we get to game ball gate. The NBA announced 59 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: yesterday that they have suspended Draymond Green indefinitely for striking 60 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: Suncenter use of Nurkic in the face in the face 61 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 2: during Tuesday's game. The league said Green will quote be 62 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: required to meet certain league and team conditions before he 63 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: returns to play end quote. He's expected to receive counseling 64 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 2: and work with the Warriors and the NBA while he suspended. 65 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: How surprising was this decision? Indefinitely? Yeah, suspended? 66 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: Have you heard such a thing? 67 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: I guess from Morant was sort of indefinitely Yeah. 68 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: The first one, yeah, but that wasn't an on court event. 69 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 3: That's why this indefinite. It's definitely the first time that 70 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: I remember talking about it since we started doing the 71 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 3: show for the last twenty years or so. So this 72 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: is definitely something the NBA wants Draymond Green to stop doing. 73 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 3: Stop hitting people. 74 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: Good luck with that. 75 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be difficult. 76 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure they want though, you well the works. 77 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, They're giving him a pretty long suspension. How long 78 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 3: is this going to be? This could be until January. 79 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: Could be five games, could be ten games, as long 80 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: as really he wants to make it well or as 81 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: short as he wants to make it. 82 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: I think the NBA is going to be the one 83 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: who puts the hammer down. Depending on what he does, 84 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 3: it's gonna be longer than five I think because he 85 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 3: had five earlier this year, I think it's going to 86 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: be longer. So he was sad after he did it. 87 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: I don't want to give him any credit or anything. 88 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: It's going to be a long one, that is for sure. 89 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 3: But does the indefinite label help out the Warriors for 90 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: the first time, being that it's a different suspension, make 91 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 3: them see it differently. I'm just trying to sort some 92 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: sort of solution for the Warriors this is obviously painful 93 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: for them. Yeah, this guy's good for this team. 94 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. I mean he was just suspended for 95 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: five games for a violent on court incident. That's exactly 96 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: what happened here, So it's got to be more than 97 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: five games. Yeah, they play on Christmas, that's seven games 98 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: from now. Does the NBA care to have Draymond back 99 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: for a game against the Nuggets. You probably want a 100 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: full strength Warriors team against a full strength champion team. 101 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: So I don't know if he makes it back in 102 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: time for that, but yeah, definitely surprising. I thought two 103 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: to three games is what would happen, just because Adam 104 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: Silver tends to be on the lighter side of things 105 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: with suspensions. But like you said, Skeets, this is kind 106 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: of a David Stern like suspension from Adam Silver, and 107 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: as we saw with John Morant, Silver doesn't like to 108 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: be embarrassed this quickly. The John Morant second suspension came 109 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: pretty quickly after his first in death one, and we're 110 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: getting Draymond doing a second similar thing as well. 111 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very clear the NBA is sick of dealing 112 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: with Draymond Green at all. This on core bullshit This 113 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 2: is like Silver telling Draymond, you know you can play 114 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 2: your type of basketball, your aggressive basketball, without hitting opponents 115 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: in the face, without stepping on people's chest, without hitting 116 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: people in the dick. You know you can do that. 117 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: I know people can do that because ninety nine point 118 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: nine percent of the league can do that. Why can't you? 119 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: So it obviously doesn't matter how many games we keep 120 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: slapping on you here. You don't learn your lesson. So 121 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: let's try something else. And I guess this counseling idea. 122 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 2: I roll my eyes at it. He's a grown ass man. 123 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 2: I don't think he's really gonna change how he goes 124 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 2: about playing basketball and playing that Draymond Green sort of 125 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 2: always on the edge. But they're gonna give it a go. 126 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: And you're right, it could be five games. It feels 127 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: like that's minimum. I'm with you on that task, but 128 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: probably will be more. But it will be how quick 129 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: and how well he takes to taking I don't know what. 130 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: We don't even really know what it is like anger 131 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 2: management classes, you know, sitting down with Silver, like, we 132 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: really don't know. 133 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not going to go through practices and see 134 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: if he hits people when he gets hit. 135 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, like they like poke the bear and see if 136 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: you get punch up. I mean, what is the what 137 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: are they gonna do? 138 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's obvious that they're just trying to give 139 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 3: something a little bit more strict than they used to. Yeah, 140 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 3: and then they have this season. We sat here and 141 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 3: it didn't look like that big of a hit, so 142 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 3: we all thought, go back to the old way. It's 143 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 3: gonna be one, two, three games at the most. But 144 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 3: they're obviously trying to send a message. And I do 145 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: I do hold a little bit of hope that Draymond Green, 146 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,119 Speaker 3: after he receives a longer suspension, it's gonna be whatever 147 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: it is into I think it's gonna be into twenty 148 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 3: twenty four, that this will reset the Warriors a little 149 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 3: bit into Okay, this dude has to calm down, and 150 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 3: this will change our focus. But if anything, because it 151 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: is so different, because we've sat here for decades, literally decades, 152 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: this is how long we've been doing the show, We've 153 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: never heard such a such a term suspension. And he 154 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 3: did get off the bench or get you know, off 155 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 3: the court and say I'm sorry. If that means anything, 156 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 3: I think it did. 157 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: Sitting here yesterday. Yeah, because, like you said, we were thinking, yeah, 158 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: sort of three games. You know, he okay, he clocks 159 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: him in the face. It's reckless, it's unnecessary, hence getting 160 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: tossed from the game. But you could maybe be convinced 161 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: yourself that it was somewhat inadvertent. He didn't make a 162 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: stink when he left the court. He did apologize right away, 163 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: and so we thought, okay, they got to hit him 164 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: with something because he keeps hitting people. But we thought 165 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: it would be Yeah, five games are left, maybe three, 166 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: and instead they're like, it's open ended. I mean it 167 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: could here's the thing, it could still be three to 168 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: five games. I think it's possible that he could return 169 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: if he does all the stuff they want him to, 170 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: but could be much longer if I don't know, he 171 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: doesn't want to cooperate. Is the other part right, Yes, yeah, exactly. 172 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: But I mean the fact that he apologized right afterwards 173 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: and said, hey, I don't apologize, but I got to 174 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: apologize here makes you think he will at least try 175 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: to buy in so that he can get back to 176 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: the Warriors and try and help him out. Now's a 177 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: decent time for Draymond to get suspended. I think the 178 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: Warriors have the Clippers, Nets Blazers, Celtics, Wizards, Blazers coming 179 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: up before they play the Nuggets on Christmas Day, so 180 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: some winnable games in there even if Draymond is missing. 181 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: But I can't imagine he will be back in time 182 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: to play against Jordan Poole. I don't think that's happened. 183 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: I think they will keep him out at least for 184 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: that one. Yeah. 185 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: Probably Tim Kewakami of The Athletic He noted that however 186 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: long this suspension lasts, the league seems to be setting 187 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: up a potential season long suspension the next time Draymond 188 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 2: Green crosses the proverbial line. I think there's some truth 189 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: to that. Like this is like we've gone like obviously 190 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: a couple of games, and then it's five games with 191 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: choking go bear, and then this one is indefinitely you 192 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 2: need help. And then if like he returns and he 193 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: will at some point be it at the end of 194 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: this calendar year, maybe in twenty twenty four, you do 195 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: it again and he will probably uh, you are looking 196 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: at a severe suspension if we get to that. That's 197 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 2: I think makes a lot of sense here. So it's 198 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: it's a very very hard sort of slap on the 199 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 2: wrist here, and you're penalizing your team, as we've talked about, 200 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: like Ken the Warriors even saved this season. I mean, 201 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 2: you're right, cushy schedule, but it's not like they're like 202 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: they can't beat anybody right right problem, And then you 203 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 2: get into like, oh, are they gonna start are they 204 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: gonna blow this thing up? Like is that actually the 205 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: move here? With with what Draymond's doing, with how Clay 206 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: is played, Wiggans and Looney, and like do you lean 207 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: into the into the youth movement? Obviously you still have 208 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: Curry playing at an elite level, but those are the 209 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: questions you're going to be sing and hearing for the 210 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 2: next couple of weeks. 211 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 3: They're not as good without him. They're three and six 212 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 3: when he doesn't play this season, and there are some 213 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 3: winnable but there are definitely some losable games in there. 214 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 3: Adam Silver doesn't like punching to the face. I think 215 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 3: we have yeah, and the NBA in general is growing 216 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: since we used to see punches in the face happened 217 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 3: a little bit more often. It's been a minute, it's 218 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: been a while but this is real, and I think 219 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 3: it's going to be far longer than five games, just 220 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 3: because of what they've done, because they could have easily 221 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 3: just said, you know, three four, and because they handed 222 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 3: out a five gamer. This is serious, yeah for Draymond Green. 223 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: What's interesting though, is the National Basketball Players Association. They 224 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: don't typically approve of this type of approach, right because 225 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: this is this is leaving a lot of power in 226 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: the hands of course Commissioner Silver, and this uncertainty for 227 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: the player of like when like when am I coming 228 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: back and to the team, So like interested to hear 229 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 2: what they think about this type of suspension the indefinite here, 230 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: because that's not usually what they would want to go 231 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 2: to bat for with their guys. It is the players Union, 232 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: so I don't think we've heard really anything from from 233 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 2: that side yet. So maybe they're even up. 234 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: To Madala is the leader of it too, right? 235 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:07,239 Speaker 2: Uh? 236 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 3: He was? Is he still? 237 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, the executive director now that he's retired, 238 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: so obviously he'll be on Draymond's side. I assume they'll 239 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 1: file something, you'd think so, but that'll take time to 240 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: get sorted out too, So he's still gonna be missing time, 241 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 1: all right? 242 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: Anything else on Andre mung Green there. 243 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: When he get suspended for well, he didn't even get 244 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: suspended when he punched Jordan Poole in the face. Didn't 245 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: even miss a game because that was an indefinite suspension 246 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: as well on the Warrior side. But he had like 247 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: a TV special on Opening Night m with Turner. 248 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, well he's employed by them, or at least exactly. 249 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: I deal with something similar going to happen here, like 250 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: Draymond's gonna have a special about I'm not punching people 251 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: in the face anymore, Santa Mont. Yeah, maybe that's a 252 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: good question. I would vote no on that person. That's 253 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 1: a bad look, be a horrible look. I did it 254 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: last time though. 255 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's certain trickle down the fact 256 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: that Adam Silver and the NBA gives a different type 257 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 3: of ruling here. I think it's starrying to trickle down. 258 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 3: You can't hit dudes anymore, and it's it's going to 259 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 3: trickle down to the national broadcasters like TNT. I think 260 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 3: I think they will have to have some sort of 261 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 3: whether it's a sit down with Draymond maybe, but it'll 262 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 3: be for him apologizing. I think I think it they'll 263 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 3: go that direction. 264 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: Oh do you think this is setting up for the 265 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: Draymond Green you know, apology Tour and like redemption Tour 266 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: after he pretends to learn from all this. 267 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, possibly right. I think if there's if there's anything 268 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: that will help the Warriors, I think it is just 269 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: changing the way he gets his wrists slapped. If anything 270 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 3: that they can reset change their focus, even though they 271 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 3: freakin won so many championships, just to help them out 272 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: here in the last hurrah for them, this could help them, 273 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: but it also could help Yeah, Draymond have some some 274 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: moments on TV where he apologizes more, can't wait to 275 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 3: that camera, into that camera. You know, there's gonna be 276 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 3: a TV. There's gonna be a TV. 277 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a TV. 278 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: This is gonna be a TV. 279 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: All right. 280 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: Let's move on to Yannis scoring sixty four points in 281 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 2: Milwaukee's one forty six revenge win over Indiana. Career high 282 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: Bucks record sixty four points from Yannis. This guy was 283 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 2: at the free throw line all game. Obviously was dominant 284 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: from the field, but after the game, the Pacers allegedly 285 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: took the game ball, intending to give it to rookie 286 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: Oscar shebwe who, Yes, Oscar rookie, rookie Oscar Shebwey, who 287 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: scored his first NBA points sort of, he scored. He 288 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 2: scored in the ist finals. Really the worst time, it 289 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: doesn't count, it doesn't count. So the Bucks were not 290 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 2: happy about this development, some of them including Giannis, you know, 291 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 2: chasing the pacers into the tunnel, leaning into the locker 292 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: rooms there looking for that damn ball, and you know, 293 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: the dispute spilled in of the postgame interviews. It was 294 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: all very weird, so very funny. And again this was 295 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 2: in a game where Yannis goes for sixty four points 296 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: and it's like, yeah, okay, who cares. It's all about 297 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: getting this game ball and who had it? And how 298 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 2: many game balls are there? It doesn't matter which one 299 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 2: you get. 300 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: Yeah there are two though balls apparent. 301 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so yeah. 302 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: And three claims on the game ball. We got Ji's 303 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: career high, Oscar Sheebway getting his official first point and 304 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: of course Damian Lillard passing Kyle Korver on my all 305 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: time three point list. What Giannis was lying about saying 306 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: that's why he was going after the ball. We don't 307 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: believe you. 308 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 2: You think you wanted it for himself. 309 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do consider he took it home. 310 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, And then he said in the press conference, I've 311 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 3: got a ball. I don't think it's the game ball. 312 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 3: It feels a little stickier, like if it felt different 313 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: than the one he just scored sixty four points with. 314 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 3: I'm definitely giving it to my mom, he said, no 315 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 3: matter what a careerh weird. 316 00:14:55,720 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 2: It's it's hard to remember seeing Yannis that upset though 317 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: after the game lad Gate. Yeah, he was upset of 318 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 2: the ladder gate too, but the guy with the lady 319 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: good point. I think he was more upset here though, 320 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: and he was like he's like yelling at Haliburton and 321 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: Lloyd Peers and obviously screaming to the back like where 322 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: is this ball? Give me this ball back? And all 323 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: the footage is coming out now you see videos of 324 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: the Pacers, I get s Miles Turner and don't give 325 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 2: it back to him and get that ball, and uh 326 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, all the other like clips are seeing 327 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: and again the quotes. But I mean, it's fun. It's 328 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: fun in the sense that it feels like a nice 329 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: little rivalry here building over the last couple of weeks 330 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: because let me go through it. Tyrese does the Dame 331 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: time celebration when he hit the dagger in the IST 332 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: semifinals against the Bucks. 333 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: It was great. 334 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: You know, they knocked him out. Jannis, he talked about 335 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: getting some revenge. He sure as hell does go and 336 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: get it. He scores sixty four points last night. He 337 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: dropped a sh into Tyrese Halibert. He leveled him in 338 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: this game, so he his course, is looking for some 339 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: sweet revenge. Later in the game, you know, Giannis is 340 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: running up to score here in his points. Nei Smith 341 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: hard fouls him underneath the rim, you know, around the shoulders, 342 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: around the neck, brings him down, tries to pick them 343 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: right back up, but that pisses off everybody. Bobby Portis 344 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: and his laser eyes are going nuts. He gets tossed 345 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: the Nassis, Giannis's brother held back by Crowder. I mean, 346 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: it looked like he was gonna come out there and 347 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: probably get a couple game suspensions for whatever he was 348 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: about to do. But he's held back. And then after 349 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: the game we get the yink of the ball here 350 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: and who's got it. It's like hot potato with whatever 351 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: the game ball is. And again this goes even into 352 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: the postgame press conference. I think I summed it up there. 353 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 354 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: Wow. 355 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 3: And the fact that Turner dunked on Yannis's head the 356 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 3: last time they played, yes, too, so that was a 357 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 3: part of it. This was definitely a revenge game for 358 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 3: the Bucks. They lost in the semifinal. So this Pacers team, 359 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 3: they've lost to them twice this season already before this game. 360 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 3: So yeah, it wasn't just a game ball gate which 361 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 3: followed up the ladder gate. This this was real. Even 362 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 3: though it was fake, it was real, and it just 363 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: it seems so weird because Damian Lillard took that Buzzer 364 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: three ball. At the end, Bucks assistant got the ball, winning, 365 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 3: a Bucks assist winning got the ball and handed it 366 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 3: to another person who every everybody on Twitter was doing 367 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 3: the video work. Yeah, and I thought, who is that 368 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 3: guy that the Bucks assistant handled it handed it to. 369 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 3: Must be must be a PACER's guy. But it was 370 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 3: another Bucks guy. 371 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 2: Yea, it came from that side of the Yeah. 372 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, so what's what is happening that they're fighting about 373 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 3: a ball? 374 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 2: Okay? Well, Zilla had a funny theory about all this. 375 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 2: He says it could be that the Bucks did have 376 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: the actual game ball initially, but they got word that 377 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: the Pacers took a game ball. Again, there are multiple 378 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 2: game balls, which was the backup ball, and then after 379 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 2: all the drama, the Pacers actually gave Jannis the ball 380 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 2: they took, thinking it was the real game ball, but 381 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 2: it wasn't because the Bucks already had that real game ball. 382 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: So when Yanna says it didn't feel like the game ball, 383 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 2: the one that he was touching after all of this, 384 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: it wasn't because it was the backup ball, but the 385 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 2: Bucks even had the real game ball, so that ended 386 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 2: up with maybe both of them. That's a decent theory. 387 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 3: Decent theory, good theory, but. 388 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 2: I mean I was explaining this to my wife Nora 389 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: this morning, like going through these clips and you know, 390 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 2: Yanna's getting upset and going to the back and some 391 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 2: of the postgame press conferences and the hard foul and She's. 392 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 3: Like, what is good? 393 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 2: This is like a real Healthswives episode. There's more drama 394 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: in this these grown men over a ball than one 395 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 2: of those episodes. I was like, some truth to that, 396 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 2: but a very funny, weird moment in the NBA with 397 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 2: the with a superstar. 398 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, like the face of the league. Just go score 399 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: sixty five next time. This wasn't even that impressive of 400 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 1: a sixty four point game. It took thirty two free throws. 401 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: Nobody wants to see thirty plus free throws. It only 402 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: happened thirteen times in NBA history, mostly Wilt Chamberlain the 403 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: last to do it, though Andre Drummond in twenty sixteen. 404 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: I think he scored seventeen points and took thirty plus. Yea, yeah, 405 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: but petty stuff from both sides. I will say so 406 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: good going forward. Hopefully they meet in the playoffs exactly. 407 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 2: How could you not love this? I mean some real 408 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 2: beef here. 409 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 3: They hate each other. And Yanni's is so good against 410 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 3: the Pacers. They played each other three times. He has 411 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 3: scored one hundred and fifty five points in three games, 412 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,479 Speaker 3: so he's averaging over fifty in those games. He can 413 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 3: punish those Egan just score on them. And he doesn't 414 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 3: like Myles Turner. Miles Turner dunked on him earlier this 415 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 3: season in the semifinals, and he dunked on him before. 416 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 3: He's got a good little dunk Montage two on Yannis, 417 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 3: one time on Tristan Thompson, one time on Gordon Hayward 418 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 3: are fantastic fans after we said that's the best dunk 419 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: of his career. When he dunked on Yannis in the semifinals, 420 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 3: threw those ones out, So he's got some good ones. 421 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 3: But Jannis likes to score on these guys. Five fifty 422 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 3: point games this season in the NBA, Yannis already has 423 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 3: two of them. I know people don't want to give 424 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 3: him the MVP or I've putting so many more guys 425 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 3: above him, like Tyres Haliburn, who had a good game 426 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 3: in this one. And I love the way the Pacers 427 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 3: play at home, so it was fun. But yeah, the 428 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: Bucks want to keep beating these dudes. You know, seventy 429 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 3: points in the paint, he keeps they just score in 430 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 3: the paint. 431 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 2: The funny part is coming into this game. I think 432 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 2: a lot of people, at least myself, thought, oh, this 433 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: will be the Dame revenge game. I mean, he will 434 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: be the one that really sort of tries to send 435 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 2: a message to Halliburton and the Pacers for what they 436 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 2: did and the selly and all that. But no, Johanna says, 437 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: I got this. I'm gonna go dunk on these guys 438 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 2: and go non stop at the rim until they have 439 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: no point or nothing else to do but follow. 440 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: Me, follow me, follow me, and Dave. I was feeling 441 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: for Dave during the confrontation. He's like, Man, I don't 442 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: care I passed Kyle. Yeah, nobody cares. I'm not first Halliburton. 443 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 2: With them, Yeah, Middleton, Lillard, Beasley, Like everybody is like, 444 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: are you okay? 445 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 3: Man? 446 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: Like, what's like? He was really fired up about that ball. 447 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: It takes a lot so you can get under Giannis's skin. 448 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: It goes back to his first playoff appearance with the 449 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: Bulls when he just completely shoulder checked Mike dun Levy 450 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: after the Bucks were getting sent home in the first round. 451 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 3: Okay, moving on, Yeah, well, I and and he only 452 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 3: got to that sixty four point total because the Pacers 453 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 3: closed the gap pretty quickly. He came back in the game. 454 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 3: It was nineteen points with three twenty four left. He 455 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 3: goes and sit down, but that's when Oscar she Wait 456 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 3: went off and Ben Sheppard, who Ben Shephard went off 457 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 3: for the Pacers and made it a close gap. So 458 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: he came back into the game with two minutes and 459 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 3: four seconds left and then scored and scored and scored 460 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 3: and scored again. That's the only time. That's the only 461 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 3: reason I should say that he got to sixty points. 462 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 2: Ben Shephard can't wait for the nester she way, she way. 463 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 464 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 2: I love that that plot twist that he already had 465 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 2: scored in an NBA game, but it was the final, 466 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: so it didn't count. There's something so funny about that. 467 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 2: All right, Moving on here, uh Phoenix Big Three debut 468 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: Booker Durant bal They all played in the same game, 469 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 2: didn't matter. The balanced Nets beat them one sixteen, one 470 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 2: to twelve, and he takeaways thoughts on either the Big 471 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: Three and how they looked or the Nets continuing to 472 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 2: play really, really good basketball. 473 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: The megan takeaway I had about Phoenix is that it's 474 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: a good thing Bradley Beal is finally back because they 475 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: got a lot to figure out. It did not look 476 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: like they had ever played together to me, and I 477 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: thought that Beal in particular was kind of a bystander 478 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: in this one. He got a basket off a baseline, 479 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: out of bounce play, he got a basket on a 480 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: fast break. I think he finished six for nine from 481 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: the field, but he only took three shots in the 482 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: second half. He took one shot in the fourth quarter. 483 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: Chimezi Metu was more involved in the offense than Bradley 484 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: Beal was, as was Nurkic, and I gotta say just 485 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: too much Nurkic, honestly, just he's involved in way too 486 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: many plays for this team because he's the main big 487 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: guy out there, so they all want to set a 488 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: screen with him, but it ends up with Nurkic taking 489 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of shots for your team, and when 490 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: he's got it going, he can make him by the 491 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: everything should be distributed a lot more differently. I do 492 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: think going forward, it's tough to be the third guy 493 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: in general when you're in a big three, But that 494 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: third guy is usually a big guy, Kevin Love, Chris Bosh, 495 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: They're used to their shots going down. I don't know 496 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: if that's gonna be the case with Bradley Beal. He's 497 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: just standing there and waiting. He's basically just catching shoot 498 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: guy at this point. So we'll see what they figure 499 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: out further on going down the line. But I wasn't 500 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: super impressed their first game out there together. 501 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the bigger problem is was they're just 502 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 3: their their whole rotation was different in this game, and 503 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 3: that Chimezi Metu started for some reason because there were 504 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 3: some injuries mister Eric Gordon out and Grayson Allen out, 505 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 3: so they decided to start Chamezi Metu. And you're right 506 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 3: about going to Nurkic a little too much. Drew Eubanks 507 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 3: got pulled real quick in this game, so I think 508 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 3: they have to figure out the rotation. I'm surprised they 509 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: didn't start Jordan Good and so when Devin Booker was 510 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 3: on the floor they kicked ass. He was a plus sixteen, 511 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 3: but when he was off the floor, they were minus twenty. 512 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 3: So I think it was just more of a rotation, 513 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 3: like you said, figuring things out. And because the guys 514 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 3: like Tim mez he Met Tonsir Little just weren't guarding 515 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 3: the three point line, the Nets just started raining down. 516 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 3: They hit too many threes in this game. And it 517 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: was the mckal bridges and Cam Johnson. Hey we came home, yeah, 518 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,719 Speaker 3: and we're gonna start raining down ourselves. So they did 519 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 3: a great job of that. 520 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: They just got contributions from everybody. This how the Nets 521 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 2: are winning all these games. I mean, you're right, Bridges 522 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: and Cam led the way. It was cool like reception 523 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 2: they got from the Sun's crowd. I'd love to see that. 524 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 2: But Clack's into good game six of ten, you know, 525 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 2: did whatdy six of eleven? Cam Thomas shown a lot, 526 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: but that's what he does. But hit four threes, got. 527 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 3: To the line. 528 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 2: He had twenty four points and then guys that come 529 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: off the bench. You get just enough from like your 530 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 2: O'Neil's and your Finney Smiths and even Watford. So really 531 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 2: good win. I mean the Nets have a better record 532 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: than the Suns thirteen and ten. Sons are thirteen eleven. 533 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: I know they're in two differ conferences and all that, 534 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 2: but that's an I mean, they've surprised a lot of people, 535 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 2: Brooklyn has. I think people didn't know where to put 536 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 2: them coming into the season. It was like, yeah, I mean, 537 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 2: are they gonna still be decent or are they gonna 538 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 2: be like a playing team or out of the play 539 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 2: in picture? And you know, they're squarely in the middle 540 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 2: there in the Eastern Conference, and I don't see why 541 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: they would sort of fall out. They're just like sound enough. 542 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 2: I don't love them in a playoff series. I think 543 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: that'll be an issue when the game gets a little different, 544 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 2: but they should be there, I would think in the end, 545 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 2: either coming in through the play in or even making 546 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: an actual first round series. 547 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: Basically, everybody on their team except for centers, can shoot three, 548 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: so they're third in makes per game, they're third in percentages. 549 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: Last night it was fifteen to nine from three, and 550 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 1: that's really the difference because the Suns they're gonna take 551 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: a lot of twos. And yeah, I don't really have 552 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: a high ceiling for the Nets. It feels like their 553 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: team is full of guys we used to talk about, 554 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: like when Kevin Durant was on the Brooklyn Nets, Nick Claxton, 555 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: he was in the next for all defense. Now you 556 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: never hear about him. When Royce O'Neill was on the 557 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: Utah Jazz, we heard about how he's one of the 558 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: best defenders out there. Now you never hear about him. 559 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,479 Speaker 1: But they're still decent role players and they can all 560 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: make threes, so they'll give an effort defensively and then 561 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: they'll make some shots on the other end. You're in 562 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: the mix for a lot of games there. 563 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 3: And usually the Sons are pretty good at defending the three. 564 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 3: But as I said, about the sort of the rotations 565 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 3: and timezy Metu starting, and then he's the backup center 566 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 3: when Nurgic went to the bench because Drew Eubanks wasn't 567 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 3: good enough for Frank Vogel. They're like twenty third in 568 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 3: terms of defensive three point percentage allowed, so that's the 569 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 3: other way twenty they're actually eighth in the league. So 570 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 3: it's a pretty solid percentage for them. Even though Cam 571 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 3: Johnson had that video with Neil deGrasse, Tyson, did you 572 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 3: see that space draft? 573 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 2: But yeah I did. I sent that to our friend Paul, 574 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 2: who loves space in basketball. He said, I'm the perfect person. 575 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 2: This is like my ven diagram overlapping here. Yeah, it 576 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 2: was a great video. 577 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: It was a great vite. 578 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 3: I know Cam Johnson liked space so much. 579 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very very cool. 580 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 3: That was cool. And then he came on and hit shots. 581 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: Any other games you want to touch on from last night? 582 00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 2: I know we're leaving a lot left on the table here, 583 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 2: but anything else gout your eye. 584 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: Solid mid off in Toronto last night between the Raptors 585 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: and the Hawks. Both teams came in on a four 586 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: game losing streak. You know, I think they both had 587 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: nine wins coming into this game. But yep, the Raptors 588 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: kind of handed it to the Hawks. I thought. Five 589 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: straight losses now for Atlanta, and that's what sticks out 590 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: to me. They've lost seven of their last eight. Basically, 591 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: once Big Johnson went down, the team completely went down. 592 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: They were eight and seven when Jalen Johnson was playing 593 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: one and seven. Since they're twenty eighth in defense right now, 594 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Hawks are the only teams below them are 595 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: the Wizards and the Hornets, So you can say that 596 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: the Hawks are lasting defense if you really want to. 597 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: They're trying to win, they're trying to make it to 598 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,959 Speaker 1: the playoffs right here. But there's just nothing. I mean, 599 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: Trey Young had an incredible first half. I think he 600 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: is the first player this season to have twenty points 601 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: in ten assists in the first half of the game. 602 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: But he went cold, I thought in the second half. 603 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: And once that was the case, the Raptors caught fire 604 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: from three and it was basically all wide open three 605 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: point shots in the third quarter. The transition defense for 606 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: the Hawks exist that if you set a screen, somebody's 607 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: gonna be wide open and maybe it'll take three passes. 608 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: But it was usually taken one for the Raptors to 609 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: get good looks. Last night, one hundred and thirty five 610 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: points for Toronto. Yeah, that's a team that doesn't score 611 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: a lot. 612 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: No to hit eighteen threes for this Raptors team. I 613 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 2: mean that has not been happening a lot this season. 614 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: But Siakam hit five, Oji hit a couple, Barnes hit three, 615 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 2: Shrewder hit three, Gary Trent Junior off the bench hit four. 616 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 2: And that's how you get up to eighteen of thirty 617 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 2: four shooting from distance and third. I mean, any team 618 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 2: in this league is gonna look a lot better when 619 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 2: you can hit at least your three pointers with some consistency. 620 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 2: I'm not saying the Rap's got to shoot fifty three 621 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 2: percent from deep every night, but he got to be 622 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 2: flirting above average. And they just had so many games 623 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: tasks where they were ice cold from deep, and some 624 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 2: of that was the Hawks just being nowhere close to them. 625 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if that was the game plan. I 626 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 2: don't know, if you know, Quinn was like, they can't 627 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 2: shoot threes, just let them shoot it, but it got 628 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 2: them last night. 629 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the Sadik bay effect when he enters the 630 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 3: starting lineup for DeAndre Hunter, who's out that's big for them, 631 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 3: and Jalen Johnson who's out for them. They have lost 632 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 3: two good teams, but their defense overall is just pretty poor. Yeah, 633 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 3: that's a problem. I wonder how deep they're going to 634 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 3: go into making a trade happen at somewhere like that 635 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 3: small forward wing position to help some of their defense, 636 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 3: because it's it ain't good. 637 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break and when we come back, 638 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 2: we've got a bunch of interesting headlines in is this news, 639 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: don't go anywhere. We got the stream team fired up 640 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 2: because we did not mention Joel Embiid going for what 641 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 2: thirty and ten plus They're in the first half against 642 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: the Detroit Pistons, who have now lost twenty one consecutive games. 643 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: They are two and twenty two. So yeah, monster game 644 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: from Embiid, And we had the Pelicans crushing the Wizards. 645 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: They continue to suck. We had the Lakers beating the Spurs. 646 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: Good game from Wemby, but Spurs continue to suck. Rockets 647 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: beat the grizz He beat the Hornets, and I jing 648 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: the Knicks. I just pointed out they haven't lost against 649 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 2: bad teams. You know teams with the sub five hundred record. 650 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 2: They lose in Utah last night, So there you go. 651 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 2: I think that's all the games. 652 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 3: Now got to them. I think the Pistons having to 653 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 3: start Isaiah Stewart at center because Joan during is hurt, 654 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 3: and then James Wiseman was the backup center. Those are 655 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 3: two guys that Joan Beacon score against. 656 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 2: You can score against anybody, but definitely those guys. Just 657 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: crush them, just crush them. All right, let's get into 658 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 2: some is this news? Yeah, we got some interesting headlines 659 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,719 Speaker 2: here for you guys today and everybody joining us live 660 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 2: and all the podcast listeners. First one though, brought a 661 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 2: smile to my face. New York Post Nix bring back 662 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: Taj Gibson to help Phil Mitchell, Robinson Void Trey Kirby. 663 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: Is this news, Ah, it's news because I was surprised 664 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: to see that Taj Gibson has now signed five content 665 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: with the Knicks. That's like his third stint, but sign 666 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: today's contracts with the Knicks unbelievable to me. I was 667 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: looking at his basketball reference page. Two nicknames so far 668 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: for Toaj Gibson, hard Hat and lunch Pale. I got 669 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: a new one for him teenager's cell phone in the 670 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: nineteen nineties, because I hope he's for emergencies only. We 671 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: gotta play Sims. We gotta play Hartenstein and Tom Thibodeaux. 672 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: It's nice for you to have a veteran in your 673 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: locker room. It used to be Derreck Rose former ball, 674 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: but now he's on the Memphis Grizzlies. So with Mitchell 675 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: Robinson out, needed some veteran ship there, and apparently Taj 676 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: got the call again again. 677 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, contracts and to Gibson and Tom Sibodo reunited for 678 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: the fourth time in the NB Bulls Days, Wolves Days, 679 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 2: and now two go arounds here with the Knicks. 680 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 3: A good thing he brought up the cell phone in 681 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 3: the nineties because this is the only man now in 682 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 3: the Knicks that was born in the eighties. The oldest 683 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 3: guy who plays is Julius Randall. He's twenty nine, so 684 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 3: I think they just want an old guy. Yeah, for 685 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 3: the floor because Mitch Robinson is hurt and they don't 686 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 3: want to start Jericho Simms, but also just to be 687 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 3: in the locker room. They don't want anybody talking trash 688 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 3: to Tom Tibodaux like they have recent there's been a 689 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 3: couple of guys that have been disappointed in their roles 690 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 3: and Josh Hart Quintin grimes recently, and so I think 691 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 3: he's just there to shake some hands. This man is 692 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 3: old for for the NBA. 693 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 2: Now, do not be surprised, though, if Tis plays, this. 694 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 3: Guy always gonna start. 695 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: If he starts a ridiculous crazy No, I don't think 696 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna start, but he'll see it, he'll see the floor, 697 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: he'll get an opportunity. 698 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 2: Maybe it'll be because another injury or something, but Tod 699 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 2: Gibson will be out there by tips, tips to Taje. 700 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 2: I wish I knew how to quit. Yeah, loves this guy, 701 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: but look, he's a VET. He's gonna he's not gonna 702 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: hurt you. But you know you're not gonna get a 703 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 2: ton of corpse from Tode Gibson at this point in 704 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 2: his career. But nice to have him back in New York, 705 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: all right. Next one here from the Athletic Wizards and 706 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 2: Capital's owner Ted Leonsis plans to move teams from DC 707 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: to Virginia. 708 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: Is this news? 709 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 3: That's this huge news. This is going to hurt Washington 710 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 3: fans big time, even though as ted Leonsis said, it's 711 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 3: only four miles away. 712 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 2: Across the river. 713 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, across the river hit the Potomac. That hurts. That's 714 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 3: going to be a problem for Washington fans. They're moving 715 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 3: the team to make more money. That's clearly what this 716 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 3: maneuver is. They're going to build an entertainment district around it. 717 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 3: That's what it's all about. We saw it here in Atlanta. 718 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking when I heard 719 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 2: the news, and then within the article it actually points 720 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 2: it out the battery here in Atlanta, which is north 721 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 2: of the city. You know, similarly aged I believe arenas too, 722 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 2: both in Washington and then the one the Brave Stadium here. 723 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 2: But it's this idea, you're right, tass of, like build 724 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 2: the performing arts venue and the new practice facility for 725 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 2: the Wizards, in a new studio for Monumental Sports Network, 726 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 2: just all this stuff that then they'll all have control 727 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 2: of and make more money off of, not just the arena. 728 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 2: But still sucks. It's unfortunate. Did you guys ever go 729 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 2: to a game in Washington, d C. You ever been 730 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 2: to the Verizon Center, the Capitol One Arena, the whatever 731 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 2: else it's. 732 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,280 Speaker 3: Called yeah, I wish I saw Vein. 733 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 2: That's right, and it's it's it's the great I'm one 734 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 2: of the best things going for honestly is the location 735 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 2: in a city like that, like where it was like 736 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: sort of in a sort of the Chinatown Penn Quarter district. 737 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 2: It's like right there amongst all your like landmarks in Washington, 738 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 2: d C. So, yeah, it's not going far, but you know, 739 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 2: it's going to North Virginia now, I mean, if this happens, 740 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 2: it's not a done done deal, but it's going to 741 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 2: because ted Leonsis wants to make more money yep, like 742 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 2: all these billionaires do. 743 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they make more money off the businesses around 744 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 3: it that set set up their way, set up their 745 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 3: offices at But at the same time, even though there's 746 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 3: some ridicule of Washington Wizards fans in the past, doesn't 747 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 3: mean that there's gonna be a ton of fans in 748 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 3: the stadium or the arena. It's just a trickle down effect. 749 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 3: The same thing happened yet to the Braves, where it 750 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 3: used to be really easy to get to the games. 751 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 3: People get on public transportation get there. Now it's hard. 752 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 3: Now it's a little bit more difficult then David Aldridge 753 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 3: does a great job of writing the history of of 754 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 3: what's going on there on the Athletic. 755 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: So, yeah, it hurts, it hurts. 756 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 3: There's some people who protested here in Atlanta. Didn't happen. 757 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 3: I had a great a great doctor who just looked 758 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 3: at my my orbital break, the break of my orbital bone, 759 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 3: and says, oh, did you got hit by a car 760 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 3: outside of the Brave Stadium. I protested for years. I 761 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 3: used to be a seasoned seat holder at Turner Field. 762 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 3: I protested for years that that stadium ended up being 763 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 3: occupied by the Braves and all the businesses surrounding it. 764 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 3: It's it's unfortunate, but you know TVD, there will be 765 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 3: protesters to try and keep it in Washington, I'm sure. 766 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. In I guess the Athletic article, it does say 767 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 2: that monument officials who sort of like owns the whole 768 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 2: thing here, they said in a statement they're excited about 769 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 2: the potential opportunity to update Capitol One arena like the 770 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 2: arena where the Wizards play right now, and the Capitals 771 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 2: to be the future home of the Washington Mystics. So 772 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 2: maybe the WNBA team will actually slot in there and 773 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 2: play there, which you'd like to see, but still sort 774 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 2: of wild. It'll be I guess what it's like A 775 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 2: Is it a fifteen to twenty minute drive? Depends on 776 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,760 Speaker 2: the traffic of course, across the bridge to Northern Virginia. 777 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 2: For this new area that they're looking at, which at 778 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 2: least has mass transit, I'm told to get there, unlike 779 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 2: the Atlanta situation. Yes, yes, which is insane that you 780 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 2: have to drive to get to the actual game. But 781 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 2: again no sign deal could in theories still fall apart 782 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 2: because I think Washington, DC was like trying to make 783 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 2: like a last pitch effort, like, hey, we'll give you 784 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 2: more money. We'll give you money to stay here and 785 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 2: do the upgrades and all that. But very unlikely, I 786 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 2: would say, when they're doing press conferences about the idea. 787 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: Of moving, Hey, yeah, exactly right. Uh, downtown arenas are cooler. 788 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: Ain't no way other ways they're cooler and you get 789 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: a better crowd. But I don't know. The Braves have 790 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 1: been good since they moved to the Battery. The money 791 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: that comes in, if the owner actually will spend it 792 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: on the team, it can be beneficial and maybe then 793 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: you'll actually see some Wizards fans out there. 794 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're seeing American cities see that, see what 795 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 3: happened to Atlanta and try and copy it. Yeah, replicate 796 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 3: it for sure, exactly because of all the businesses around it. 797 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: Uh. 798 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 3: Well. 799 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 2: In other arena news, here's the other headline. Oklahoma City 800 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 2: voters approve a sales tax for nine hundred million dollar 801 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 2: Thunder arena. Is this news, tricker? 802 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: I think this is news because part of this is 803 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: that it means the Thunder are going to be staying 804 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: in OKC until twenty fifty. That's a long time from now. 805 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 1: Apparently they're going to get a new arena by twenty thirty. Yep. 806 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: So I do like that. I really like that the 807 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: Thunder is staying. Since they're a team that has already 808 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 1: left a city once, they shouldn't be leaving again. But 809 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 1: also now the people of Oklahoma City are paying taxes 810 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: to build an arena, and I love that. Yeah. 811 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 2: Hey, hey, the Thunder's ownership group is gonna throw in 812 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 2: fifty million. 813 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: There we go, there we go. We got you for that. 814 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, that's what this one percent sales tax for, 815 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 2: you know whatever, five or six years here to help 816 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 2: fund this new downtown arena. Now, they did put it 817 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 2: to vote, and it was a pretty resounding yes. I believe. 818 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 2: I think it was around seventy five percent of the 819 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 2: people that went out and voted in okay, see that 820 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 2: that they want this, that they're okay paying the sort 821 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 2: of the penny tax, their tasks to keep a team. No, 822 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 2: you we can get into like I'm with you trailing. 823 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 2: Should the people have to pay for these arenas? No, 824 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 2: it should be the billionaires. And like Balmer, to his credit, 825 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 2: it's what he's doing with his new you know, shit 826 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 2: dome where all the toilets you can put in there, 827 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 2: and uh, I guess the Warriors similar. I believe that is, 828 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 2: you know, funded by them. But we see this a 829 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 2: lot here with some of these cities, especially these especially 830 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 2: these cities that are sort of held hostage to it. Right, 831 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 2: that's the issue. It's like, do this approve this, pay 832 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,240 Speaker 2: for this arena, or we might be going it sucks. 833 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 2: But I mean that's that's where we're at with these 834 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 2: billionaire owners. 835 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, seventy one percent said yes, I want it, twenty 836 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 3: nine said do not want it. Although there is this 837 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 3: little line here the sales tax will begin April first, 838 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 3: twenty twenty eighth, when the current sales tax ends, so 839 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 3: the city's sales tax rate will remain unchanged. 840 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,280 Speaker 2: So you'll be paying for it in the future. 841 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: Well, they're already paying for renovations. It's for the current arena. 842 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 3: That's I thought it was a sales tax. Just sales tax. Okay, 843 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 3: so you're paying for it now, you're going to keep 844 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 3: paying for it in the future, which you. 845 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: Don't want to be Seattle. It's basically what the funder 846 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: are saying. Remember what we did last time. 847 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so it is unfortunate for them that they're 848 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 3: going to have to pay. I wonder being that Oklahoma 849 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 3: City is obviously not losing this team, if this is 850 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 3: just a quick step, a smaller step into expansion and 851 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,479 Speaker 3: when that happens in the NBA, because at some point 852 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 3: it's going to happen. And if you're locking in thirty franchises, 853 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 3: then that leads you to know that things are more 854 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 3: secure in those cities and we can eventually get to 855 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 3: this chatter about Seattle, Vegas, Mexico City, Canadian cities in 856 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 3: Montreal and Vancouver. 857 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to make this clear. I'm very excited 858 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 2: for Oklahoma City Thunder fans, and I think most people 859 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,879 Speaker 2: are that the team is going to stay through twenty fifty, 860 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 2: They're going to get a new arena. They obviously have 861 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 2: a young, up and coming, exciting team like I fired 862 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 2: up down to Dunk yesterday. Andrew Schlecht, our guy the 863 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 2: OKAC Thunder podcast, they're over the moon. Of course they 864 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 2: would be like they're like, yeah, I'm okay paying this 865 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 2: very small sales tax because I want the team to 866 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 2: be here. Of course, he does a podcast about thee 867 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 2: that makes sense. He's a huge basketball fan. But at 868 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 2: the same time, I think a lot of people and 869 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 2: you're seeing a lot of the resentment, like here we 870 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 2: go again. This happens, you know in Nashville and Buffalo, 871 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 2: and it's this public private ownership model, which you know, 872 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,760 Speaker 2: the taxpayers pony up the cash to build the arena. 873 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 2: Then they pay more taxes to go to the damn 874 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 2: arena and it's like profiting for the owners. Like that sucks. 875 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 2: We can still be upset with that, but it is 876 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 2: what it is. And it went to a vote. You 877 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 2: let the residents decide how much do you want a 878 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 2: professional sports team here in your city, and do you 879 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 2: believe it'll have positive economic impact. A lot of reports 880 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 2: say that's bullshit. I actually think it's maybe more true 881 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 2: for a place like Okay. See, but you know, they 882 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 2: voted on it, and what happened we saw in Seattle 883 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 2: a lot of them wish they still had a team, 884 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 2: of course, and hopefully they get one back, but similar 885 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 2: circumstances for sure. When it comes to the arena part 886 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 2: of it all. 887 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. This ownership group knows how to get an 888 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: arena belt. Somebody else pay for it. 889 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the part that sucks because they're like, well, 890 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 2: you pay for it or I'm gone. So then you're 891 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 2: left going, well, man, I really like a team here. 892 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: Oh we got you till twenty fifty. 893 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, Well, let's hear from everybody on that one. 894 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 2: Final one doesn't have to do with arenas well, it 895 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 2: does sort of does. Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen headlined 896 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 2: the inaugural class for Bull's Ring of Honor. Yeah, that 897 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 2: Ring of Honor. We'll go up in that in that 898 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 2: stadium there in Chicago's is by way of NBA dot com. Trey, 899 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 2: my guy, you see the graphic there. Well done, is 900 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:33,479 Speaker 2: this news. 901 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 1: This is minor news. 902 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 2: You know. 903 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: I don't think we're aware of all the Rings of 904 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: honor that are out there. Didn't know the Suns had 905 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 1: one until last night. It was like, oh cool, Yeah, 906 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,800 Speaker 1: kind of like the mid tier level of honoring for 907 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bulls. If we're being quite honest, we've talked 908 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,479 Speaker 1: a lot of times, like about Joe Quem Noah, about 909 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 1: Derek Rose. Well, they ever had their jerseys retired by 910 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 1: the Bulls. I thought no, because they don't retire a 911 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: lot of jerseys. They only got four. Basically, you gotta 912 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: win some championships or be really really old. They didn't 913 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: do either. So now they've got this. And the main 914 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 1: requirements are that you have to have spent at least 915 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: three seasons with the team, be retired for three years, 916 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: and you have to have either an award or an 917 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: NBA championship. So I like Derreck Rose, you're an MVP, 918 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: you will be in the Ring of Honor. Jokim Noa, 919 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 1: you've got a Defensive Player of the Year, you will 920 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: be in the Ring of Honor. If I'm Horace Grant, 921 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: I'm feeling some type of way that Tony Kuk coach 922 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: and Dennis Rodman are getting honored from the second three 923 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: peat teams, but I assume he'll get his call eventually. 924 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: Gonna be weird though. See Michael Jordan, Scotti, Pippen back 925 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: together for this. That will be interesting. 926 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 2: I hope they leaving the families at home. So you 927 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 2: think this is just a slick way by the bulls 928 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 2: here to eventually honor those guys like Rose and joking 929 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 2: Noah by having the Ring of Honor, and you don't 930 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 2: have to worry about like, yeah, they didn't bring us 931 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,800 Speaker 2: the championship, so we're not gonna put their their actual 932 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 2: jersey up in the rafters. 933 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,360 Speaker 1: There's something for the franchise favorites, yeah out there, and 934 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: it allows you to keep your standards high for the 935 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: ultimate honor of having your jersey retired or perhaps even 936 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: having a statue built if you're one of the all 937 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 1: time greats. But you still get your name and recognition 938 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 1: throughout history. But it's pretty funny. This is gonna be 939 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's fourth time being honored by the Chicago Balls. 940 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: He's got his jersey retired, he's got a statue, He's 941 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: gonna be in the Ring of Honor and they're inducting 942 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,439 Speaker 1: the ninety five ninety six Bulls as a full team 943 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 1: for this one. 944 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 2: Well okay, yes, yes, that's true. The seventy two to 945 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 2: ten Bulls are also being included in this Ring of Honor. 946 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that'll happen actually during a Golden State Warriors matchup. 947 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 3: So Steve Kirk, oh, come on over here, you go 948 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 3: you play? Oh yeah, nice, so that'll happen. But yeah, 949 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 3: I loved hearing Charles Barkley's comments about Pippin and Jordan, 950 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,839 Speaker 3: and Charles said, I gotta go, I gotta go. I'm 951 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 3: just gonna sit back in the corner and stare. I'm praying. 952 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 3: Please don't have it on a night when I gotta work, 953 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 3: because I want to go there and be a fly 954 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 3: on the wall. They shouldn't do it on the same 955 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 3: night because that's the only way they're going to get 956 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 3: a crowd is on the Ring of Honor night. They 957 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 3: should spread it out. He also said, okay, okay, but 958 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 3: he wants to see Jordan and Pippen. Shout out to 959 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 3: the Dan Patrick show that had Charles on to talk 960 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,280 Speaker 3: about Jordan and Pippen. 961 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bulls plan to add to the Ring of 962 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,840 Speaker 2: Honor every two years, so the next class would be 963 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 2: inducted in twenty twenty six. I don't know if it's 964 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 2: mandatory that somebody has to go into the Ring of 965 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 2: Honor every two years, but that's what they said in 966 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 2: this little press release here. So yeah, Michael Scottie, Dennis, 967 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 2: Phil Jackson, Jerry Krause, Artist Gilmore, Jerry Sloan, Tony Kok coach, 968 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 2: Bob Love, chet Walker, Johnny red Kerr text winner, and 969 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 2: who can forget Dick Klein. Those are your names going 970 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 2: in the inaugural class here, but no hors good point. 971 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: I got to connect four for you. There's not five 972 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 1: of these players, so it's just to connect four, all right, 973 00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:01,240 Speaker 1: Tony Kuk coach, Yeah, Bill Walton, Kevin McHale, Bobby Jones. 974 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 1: What do they have in common? There's only four of them, 975 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 1: only four or four. I couldn't even get to five. 976 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 1: So this is just like the actual game click class. 977 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 2: Six man something six man and it's not six man 978 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 2: in titles in the same season. 979 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 1: Ooh good. One was the only four guys that have 980 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: won sixth Man of the Year and the NBA title 981 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,319 Speaker 1: the same season. Tony Kuk coach still the last guy 982 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety six. Prior to that, Walton with the 983 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,800 Speaker 1: eighty six Celtics, Michale eighty four Celtics, Bobby Jones eighty 984 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,919 Speaker 1: three Sixers. Wow, it's a curse, the coup coach curse. 985 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 1: You don't want to win six Man of the Year, 986 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: You're not win a championship. 987 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 3: Wow. 988 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 2: When did lamar Odin win six Man of the Year 989 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,320 Speaker 2: the year after they won the Yeah? Yeah, twenty ten eleven? 990 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 2: Good point? Uh good one? 991 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 1: I like that. 992 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 2: All right, that's just this news. Let's talks about arena. 993 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 2: We gotta take one more break when we come back. 994 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 2: Trey has tweeted the night, all right, from Tudd to totn. 995 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 2: Let's get to tweeted the. 996 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 3: Night read wowwa I talked about a little smideroo earlier. 997 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,280 Speaker 1: Twenty one straight losses. Now for the Detroit Pistons. Shout 998 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 1: out to Lee Ellis and shout out to Richie Beno 999 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 1: two in twenty two. It's not great stuff, but some 1000 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 1: good sadness from Piston's fans last night after the twenty 1001 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 1: first straight loss. It's just worth checking out at kofe's 1002 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,880 Speaker 1: Twitter account. See all of the memes he was posting, 1003 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 1: but this was the one that really caught fire. Our 1004 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 1: jan Hunt thirty six tweeted out, this is getting out 1005 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,959 Speaker 1: of control. Even the youth is disappointed in this team. 1006 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: And we've got slow moo shots of sad Pistons going 1007 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 1: straight into two young Pistons, fans punching each other in 1008 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 1: the arms, and a parent coming into saying please stop, 1009 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: please stop. Apparently. There was also a kid crying shown 1010 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 1: on the jumbo tron at the game last night. That 1011 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 1: brother needs help, That's all I could think. How about 1012 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,720 Speaker 1: that kid's old, He's gonna get pounded. Bad stuff. Brothers 1013 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:04,799 Speaker 1: fighting brothers the worst. 1014 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 2: Oh man, it's so bad. The Pistons just need to 1015 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 2: like just get one win here and get the hell 1016 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,840 Speaker 2: out of the way, because the Spurs insane losing streak 1017 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 2: and the Wizards are basically just as bad despite having 1018 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 2: a tiny bit record. I mean, just one win for 1019 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 2: dey Troit year and like all attention shifts to like, yeah, 1020 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 2: San Antonio or Washington, but it's just because they're they're 1021 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,919 Speaker 2: leading the pack here in terms of futility at twenty 1022 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 2: one straight. I mean, it's in play tests this all 1023 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,320 Speaker 2: time losing streak record of twenty six games within one season. 1024 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 3: Well, luckily they have the Hawks coming up, who have 1025 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,319 Speaker 3: struggled defensively, and then the Jazz right after that, who 1026 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 3: are quite injured and have a bad season. Because jon 1027 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,439 Speaker 3: Biid with his thirty and ten assists in the first half, 1028 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 3: can do that against the Detroit Pistons, no problem to 1029 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 3: throw out a six to eight guy to guard him 1030 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,240 Speaker 3: right now because of their injury, they throw out Isaiah Stewart. 1031 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 3: Jonan beats a lot bigger than Steward. He's undersized, he's 1032 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 3: undersized for the four spot. Then you start them at 1033 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 3: the center spot. That ain't gonna work. But they play 1034 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 3: them again right now on Friday. 1035 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, they gotta catch them sleeping Sixers fans. I'm not 1036 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,360 Speaker 1: happy to see that on the schedule. Please not. 1037 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 2: It's a ropodope. That's what they're doing here. 1038 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 3: Maybe bid gets a rest game because that's a back 1039 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 3: to back with maybe for well, for the Pistons back to. 1040 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 2: Back, I should say yes, Friday night. 1041 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 3: Friday night exciting they get back to back. Well, it 1042 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 3: is it is a Pistons Hornets back to back for 1043 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,239 Speaker 3: the Sixers, so maybe they take it and and b 1044 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 3: take a seat. He is one star that has been 1045 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 3: getting a little tiny bit of rest this season. But 1046 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 3: the Sixers. Yeah, then they get it back to back 1047 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,840 Speaker 3: with the Box. They play the Bucks on Saturday, so 1048 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 3: two losses coming up for them for the Pistons. 1049 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 2: So it's nice to see, uh, Kelly Ubray Junior have 1050 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 2: a really good game. I know it's against Pistons, so 1051 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 2: barely counts, but seventeen points, seven to nine shooting, Kelly 1052 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,319 Speaker 2: sort of working back into the rhythm that we saw 1053 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 2: earlier before the uh you know, the the accident where 1054 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:06,800 Speaker 2: he was hit by a car when he was on 1055 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 2: his bike. 1056 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,279 Speaker 1: So I think the only game the Sixers have lost 1057 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 1: with Kelly youu bray in the lineup was Opening night. Wow, 1058 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,400 Speaker 1: they lost by one, and then there are eleven and 1059 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:16,280 Speaker 1: one with him. 1060 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:17,240 Speaker 3: In the lineup. 1061 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 1: Okay, that's pretty good. 1062 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 2: Hell, he's the secret sauce here, all right, Come on, Detroit, 1063 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 2: you can do it. Catch catch Philly sleeping on a 1064 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 2: Friday night. I don't know, man, Well you thought for 1065 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 2: a little bit that the that they were gonna surprise. 1066 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 1: But now I was just all I could see from 1067 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 1: Pistons fans last night was saying we better not get 1068 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 1: the thirty straight. They're just fast forwarding the next time. 1069 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I had hope, I had hope. The Pacers, man, 1070 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 1: they could have done it. They didn't do it. They 1071 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 1: couldn't do it. Actually, Tess is right. 1072 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 2: Pistons fans are like simulating the season here already just skipped. Yeah, 1073 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 2: oh boy, all right, well that's tweeted the night. That's 1074 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 2: hopefully another classic here. Some crazy topics there with the game, 1075 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 2: ball Gate, Draymond's indefinite suspension, some other action, all that 1076 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 2: Arena news area talk. Can you tell us though? Leave 1077 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,800 Speaker 2: your boys a five star rating and review, hit the 1078 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 2: light button, make sure you subscribe. Hey, if you're a 1079 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,399 Speaker 2: Survivor fan, we're jumping on at one pm Eastern over 1080 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 2: at No Bus to talk about the penultimate episode, episode 1081 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 2: twelve of Survivor forty five. We're down to the final 1082 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 2: five and you're seeing three of them right there on 1083 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 2: your screen. So we'll be talking about that episode, who 1084 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 2: went home and who's gonna win this damn game? Because 1085 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:38,080 Speaker 2: next Wednesday night is the eight hour finale of Survivor. 1086 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:43,280 Speaker 2: Just kidding, it's three hours. It's chunky, It's a chunky 1087 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:44,400 Speaker 2: are you here on Thursday. 1088 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 3: By the way, next week I'm on a helicopter just 1089 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:53,959 Speaker 3: like our friends Survivor. Okay, Christmas cheers. 1090 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a crazy Thursday here in the factory. 1091 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 2: That's okay, But again, thanks for joining us. Join us 1092 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 2: at one pm if you're a Survimber fan. Until then, Clipper. 1093 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,359 Speaker 1: Rose, you heard it here first. Have a great time, 1094 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:05,840 Speaker 1: turn up. Love you guys. 1095 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 3: Awesome, Thanks for joining us. I remember everything is better 1096 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 3: in threes. So the Bucks dramas, Ladder Gate, game ball Gate. 1097 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 3: What's the other Bucks big drama over the year or 1098 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 3: one that's coming either one, say, I'll take anything. I 1099 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 3: hope there's gotta be another one. I think the Bucks 1100 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,840 Speaker 3: play the Pacers five times this year because they do 1101 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 3: They've had to play them in the semifinals, so they 1102 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 3: got a couple more games. They hate each other. There 1103 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:31,920 Speaker 3: could be another gate. 1104 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 2: They play early in the New Year. I think maybe 1105 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 2: January fourth, something with I don't know, something with New 1106 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 2: Year's Resolution Gate. We'll figure it out. 1107 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,320 Speaker 3: Let us know, let us know in the comments. 1108 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 2: Figure it out, all right, Embrace the day, people,