1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff mom never told you? 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: From house Stop works dot Com. Well, and welcome to 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: the podcast. This is Molly and I'm Kristen. Kristen. Let's 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: start this podcast with strippers. Yes, the stripper guests. I've 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: been waiting for this. We're actually not going to talk 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: about strippers throughout the podcast, just we're gonna start with 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: a one study about strippers and exotic dancers that got 9 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: quite a bit of press a few years ago. Um. 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: It was about how women who were stripping made bigger 11 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: tips when they were ovulating. Yeah, there was a psychologist 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: named Jeffrey Miller from the University of New Mexico who 13 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: basically pulled strippers to find out where they were in 14 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: their menstrual cycles and essentially how fertile they were, you know, 15 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: whether or not they were ovulating, and then asked him 16 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: how much they were making off of tips. And they 17 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: found that dancers made about seventy bucks an hour during 18 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: their peak fertility a k a. When they are ovulating, 19 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: versus about thirty five dollars while men straining and fifty 20 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: bucks when you know, they're just hanging out in between. Yeah, 21 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: and it was he sort of made the suggestion that 22 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: if you're on the pill and you're a stripper, you're 23 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: really kind of hurting yourself financially. Because the women on 24 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: the pill had no sort of uh cycle like this. 25 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: You know, they never got as high at seventy. They 26 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: average thirty seven at all times, even during that sort 27 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: of period that you call it just sort of hanging 28 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: out when the other women were making fifty dollars. And 29 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: you know, the suggestion was made that because uh, hormonal 30 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: contraception basically fools your body into thinking that you're pregnant, 31 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: that men could somehow pick up on this. And no 32 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: one really wants to chip a pregnant stripper. I guess, 33 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess there. We'll let the listeners answer 34 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: that one, Molly. But he was just saying that, you know, 35 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: something happens when women opulate that makes them more attractive 36 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: to the opposite sex. And uh, this is a theme 37 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: that's been picked up and exploited in a lot of 38 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: different uh studies about you know, what sort of hidden 39 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: signs of population do women send out? Because it's not 40 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: like we're monkeys that sort of lift up our our 41 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: hind ends when we're in heat. I mean, we're sort 42 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: of the only mammal that doesn't do that, doesn't advertise, hey, 43 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: baby making time, we have concealed fertility. There's no yeah, 44 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: there's no outward sign. But the reason why we're doing 45 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: this episode on these subliminal messages, if you will, that 46 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: women might send out um around the time we ovulate. 47 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: It's because Molly and I go over so many studies 48 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: every week about women's behavior and also a lot of 49 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 1: it's linked to hormones and our cycles and all of that. 50 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: And you know, light bulb just went off and Molly 51 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 1: said the other day saying, whoa, we have like all 52 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: of these all this research just about these crazy things 53 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: that we start doing when we ovulate. So let's talk 54 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: about it. And I think that with this discussion we 55 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: should stay right up front to take all of this 56 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 1: with a grain of salt. Yeah, I mean, you basically 57 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: have to buy into the fact that when a woman 58 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: is ovulating, she wants to get pregnant, which an old 59 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: evolution you know, old days, Yes, evolution would have wanted 60 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: us to produce as many children as possible. Uh, to 61 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: have great reproductive success to continue the species. And now 62 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: we don't really have that same need. Yeah, I mean 63 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: some people do. Some people want to get pregnant when 64 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: they're ovulating. Not everyone does. And here's another issue that 65 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: I want to throw out upfront with these studies as well. 66 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: This is all assuming that women are looking to attract 67 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: men exactly, Molly man I say it, it's all very heteronormative. Yeah, 68 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: we were. We were really disgusted yesterday because we were 69 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: we were trying to they were talking about some of 70 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: these things that we'll get into about how there's female 71 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: and female competition. You're ovulating because you know, you want 72 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: to get all your enemies out of the way and 73 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: get that man all to yourself, and so we don't 74 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: really know. And science has really explained that if you're 75 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: trying to attract a woman exactly how ovulation would affect that, 76 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: because when you get female to female company, Actually, should 77 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: you know if I wanted to attract a woman, should 78 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: I avoid going on a date when I'm ovulating because 79 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: I would feel like she was somehow my rival as well? Like, yeah, 80 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: science still has to work some details out here. So 81 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: this assumes that women are trying to catch men and 82 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: trying to get pregnant, and that they are sending out 83 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: subliminal signs to do so. Alright, So subliminal sign number one, 84 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: you dressed to impress. Yeah, and you guys are probably 85 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: and girls have probably seen this some version of this 86 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: research out there before, because it comes up a lot. 87 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: And the idea is that when we ovulate, we without 88 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: thinking about it, we'll just put on our sassios outfits. 89 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,239 Speaker 1: We will dress the nine, we will dress the nines 90 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: like I will put on my accessories. I'm gonna put 91 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: on my hot heels. Might get your hair did. I 92 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: might get my hair did, or you know, at least 93 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: shower every day. And I really appreciate it when you 94 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: all in hopes. Well I wish wish is that I 95 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: was always ovulating for that reason, all in the hopes 96 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: of having my egg um fertilized. Yeah, shall we um? 97 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: And the newest study on this, I mean there have 98 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: been several different studies on it. The newest one came 99 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: out just this week that we're recording the podcast or 100 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: the University of Minnesota was asking a hundred women at 101 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: different stages of their menstrual cycles to choose what clothes 102 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: or accessories they would hypothetically buy, and they found that 103 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: those that were most fertile, those that were ovulating, would 104 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: go for a very tight sweater, slinky dresses, lower cut tops, 105 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 1: things that society deems as sexy. And the whole reason 106 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: that this study was being done is because businesses are 107 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: going to try to exploit that, because if there's something 108 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: that can be exploited, they'll make us buy more clothes. 109 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: They're going to try and exploit it. And they were saying, 110 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: you know, obviously all women are ovulating at different times, 111 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: but you would just periodically send out your sexiest outfits 112 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: and just hope that you hit the woman at the 113 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: right time in the month, because she's gonna go craze. Yeah, 114 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: she's gonna want She might look through a closet and 115 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: not feel like there's anything in there that is sending 116 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: out the right kind of signals, so of course she's 117 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: gonna run to the mall and splurge on some new 118 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: many something or other. Um. And the interesting thing about 119 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: this is the study was not published in some kind 120 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: of health journal. It was published in the Journal of 121 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: Consumer Research. But it's how much companies want our dollars. 122 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: By the way, women, it's that they're trying to track 123 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: when we ovulate. Okay, but they're not the only study. 124 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: There was also another one where they had women take 125 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: one picture when they were just hanging out as Christian 126 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: but it uh not fertile, basically in an aludeal phase. 127 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: And then they had women in their most fertile phase 128 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: take a picture and the same one was taking the 129 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: picture twice, and they had people pick like, in which 130 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: picture is the woman trying to look more attractive, and 131 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: both men and women were able to pick out the 132 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: fertile picture as the picture when she was trying to 133 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: look most attractive. And you know, if you're going into 134 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: a lab twice being told you're gonna be having a 135 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: picture taking, you're not told why, but I mean you 136 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: would think that both times when we would put a 137 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: little extra effort into it. But it turns out that 138 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: even even knowing you're having a picture taken in a laboratory, 139 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: the fertile one fertile picture. I wish we could see 140 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: these pictures so because surely it's not you know, one 141 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: day you walk in when you're in your luteal phase, 142 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: if you will um surely you're not going to just 143 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: walk in and like, you know, overalls and a T 144 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: shirt and then all of a sudden you're ovulating and 145 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: you come into a cocktail dress. I'm really curious to 146 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: know how, um, how subtle these changes were. Well, let 147 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: me give you some examples from the study. One. Uh one, 148 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: some of the fertility pictures were marked by outfits like 149 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: tops with lace trim, wearing skirts instead of pants. One 150 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: woman added a fringing next scarf, and several women show 151 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: simply shed more skin. And this is from a study 152 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: that was in the journal Hormones and Behavior two thousand six. 153 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: And uh as with all our studies, I'll put them 154 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: up on the blog when this podcast air so you 155 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: can check it out yourself. But you know, they even 156 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: tried to exempt out women who might have showed up 157 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: dressed differently because they had a job interview or they 158 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: had class that okay, I mean they even allowing that 159 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: there was something else going on in the women's lives 160 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: that they were dressing for. These judges were still able 161 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: to pick out the fertile outfits. And apparently this is 162 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: all moderated. These clothing choices are all moderated. By each 163 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: individual's socio sexuality. In other words, the amount of I guess, 164 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: kind of sexual mojo that you want to project when 165 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: you are out in public, and apparently it shifts throughout 166 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: the menstrual cycle, and again and again with all of 167 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: these studies. Their explanation is female to female rivalry. You 168 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: want to stand out from the crowd. But uh, it's 169 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: not just physical, you know, making ourselves look good on 170 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: the outside. We also tend to project a different vocal tone, 171 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: which is kind of funny because you know, I've got 172 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: all these weird voices that I do my life, and 173 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: I would I would like a study done on myself 174 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: of my ovulating voice, because I bet it's nuts. Well, 175 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: you know it's funny. You know. Sometimes you guys will 176 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: write in your listeners and say something like, oh, we 177 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: really like the way so and so sounds, and I 178 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: think it'd be a really interesting study. I don't want 179 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: to be part of it, but I think I know 180 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: where you're going. I like this, but I bet that 181 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: there's some researcher out there trying to get money to 182 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: study different ways podcasters voices sound based on their menstrual cycles. 183 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: Do it on NPR? Yeah, because um, there was a 184 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: study that came out from u c l A about 185 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: how women who are ovulating say uh sentences in a 186 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: more high pitched way that it is deemed more attractive 187 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: by males because they had these udents record just a 188 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: simple sentence, I think they said, I'm a U c 189 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: l A student, and the guys were able to pick 190 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: out which women sounded more attractive, and by and large 191 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: it was the ovulating ones. And the researchers attribute this 192 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: to hormone secretions in the larynx. That's just how much 193 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: these hormones affect us from top to bottom that even 194 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: you know, even when we're in our ludial or our 195 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: UH or in our follicular high fertility phase, these these 196 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: hormones are somehow not only determining how we dress, but 197 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: also how we speak. And you know what's interesting with 198 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: all these studies, as usually they have the women who 199 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: are on hormonal birth control, like the birth control pills 200 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: serve as the control group because those women are not 201 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: subject to the same rise and fall of hormones that 202 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: can lead to pregnancy. Because as I said at the beginning, 203 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: the pill essentially makes your body think that it's always 204 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: pregnant and so um women who are on birth control 205 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: don't exhibit these same same vocal cues and they don't 206 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: dress definitely through about the month. So it's really a 207 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: subject for another podcast about whether you know that the 208 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: pill is totally blocking us off from you know, potential 209 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: mate finding expeditions. I guess that, well, you know, starting 210 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: with this with the stripper, like we said, like they're 211 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: they're getting the same, they're getting thirty seven dollars versus 212 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: seventy dollars. They're not going out of their way to 213 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: dress differently. Their voices, yeah, stay flat across the way. 214 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: And in terms of facial attractiveness, again, the women on 215 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: birth control are the control group, because there was this 216 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: study that came from the University of Newcastle saying that 217 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: female facial attractiveness increases during your fertile face. In other words, 218 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: you get prettier when you ovulate. Subliminal sign number three 219 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: is that your face changes in really small ways. And 220 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: again this was another thing where they had the women 221 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: come into the lab at different parts of their cycle 222 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: and take pictures and they put a few examples in 223 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: the in the actual research. And I will say that 224 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: in one of the sets. I did think that the 225 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: woman who was opulating looked a little prettier. I didn't 226 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: agree with the with the one on the examples though, 227 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: But apparently to men, these subtle differences are somehow a 228 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: visible cue that, hey, that lady needs to get pregnant. 229 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: Let me go get her, let me go get her number, 230 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: and again like possibly ask her to dinner. Like crist 231 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: And said, you have to take it with a grain 232 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: of salt in this day and age, because we're not 233 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: all constantly going around thinking pregnant, pregnant, pregnant, exactly. And 234 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: and I was saying this to Molly before before we 235 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: started recording, that the funny thing about reading all of 236 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: this is, while yes, it's all like pregnancy, pregnancy, fertility, 237 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: I would argue that for you know, the demographic mind 238 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: and Molly's demographic who you know, maybe we don't really 239 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: want babies right now. And I would say that maybe, 240 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: you know, the men we are seeing probably don't want 241 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: babies right now. You know, we have a little more 242 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: liberty to to try to plan things a little bit more. 243 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: So it's kind of like the opposite. We're sort of 244 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: working against nature, if you will. Yeah, because I mean, Uh, 245 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: they were saying that these women's their faces become more symmetrical, 246 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: and symmetry is always prized as this, you know, standard 247 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: of beauty that attracts the other gender. And uh, your 248 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: face becomes somehow more symmetrical during ovulation. But not only 249 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: do women's faces seem to change a slight bit, the 250 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: way women perceive men also changes, or at least the 251 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: kind of men that were attracted to. And this happens 252 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: whether or not you have a partner, right, And I 253 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: think you might have touched on this in our Adultery 254 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: podcast talking about how even if a woman is married 255 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: or has a boyfriend or girlfriend, they still feel attracted 256 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 1: to different people. And you might, if you're in a relationships, 257 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: start seeing at the times when you feel more attractive 258 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: to a person can be tracked to your ovulation, because 259 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: science would say that it can. Yeah, because supposedly when 260 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: you ovulate, you are more social in general, You're you 261 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: tend to want to go out more and be around 262 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: more people. You also get more flirtatious, and you also 263 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: get more flirtatious specifically with very masculine looking men. Yes, 264 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: masculinity apparently is the key attraction factor And what was 265 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: interesting about these sets of studies about mate preference in 266 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: opulation that we were looking at is that it's only 267 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: in the short term exactly. These are not long term threats, 268 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: which is how they're explained that these women can be 269 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: married and still attracted to the idea of a fling 270 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: with this guy who looks really masculine, got the square jowl, 271 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: because that's what do we what do we mean when 272 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: we say masculine. It's like then, according to the pictures 273 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: in the study, it was, you know, a softer jawline 274 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: versus the more angular, stronger jawline. And I think there 275 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: was a difference with lips. I mean, we you know, 276 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: in certain behaviors. It was the way they conducted some 277 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: of these studies is they would have the men pretend 278 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: they were competing to win a dinner date. So they 279 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: would do things like asked the men to you know, 280 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: convince the woman that they should take him on the date. 281 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: And they it was, you know, they make factors out 282 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: of whether he trashed the other guy, whether he was 283 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: very confident in himself, or whether he was more just 284 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: like self deprecating, and you know, they took all these 285 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: factors and kind of assigned them to variables, and that's 286 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: sort of how they got this idea of what masculinity was. 287 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: But you know, sort of confusing and some of these 288 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: things we've talked about over the course of the podcast, 289 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: christ and about how women are looking for the guy 290 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: who will actually stay there and raise the children. You 291 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: would think that they would want that sort of long 292 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: term person, but they were actually more attracted to to 293 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: guys who in the short term could give them the 294 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: genes they needed him to have the best possible baby, 295 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: and they were less concerned about who would be there 296 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: to actually help them raise it. I guess that's a 297 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: whole another study entirely. And while all of this is 298 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: going on, apparently with you know, with women maybe having 299 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: a little bit more of a wandering eye in our 300 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: follicular phase of our menstrual cycle. Uh, men react to 301 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: this subliminately as well by mate guarding or they've noticed 302 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: that couples will tend to fight a little bit more, 303 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: men become a little bit more jealous, and you know, 304 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: watch I mean well, I mean because it makes sense, 305 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, if all of a sudden, for a couple 306 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: of days, like your your lady friends seems to be 307 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: talking to other dudes. Um, but there does seem to 308 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: be you know, the male innate response to this, and again, Molly, 309 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I got to come back to it again 310 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: and again. Like with all of these studies, it makes 311 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: the assumption that women and men are you know, want 312 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: to get together as opposed to women and women or 313 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: men and men. And also you know that it's all 314 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: driven by this need to reproduce. But you know, you know, 315 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: we're already up to I think some subliminal sign number 316 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: five or six of of all these things. We found 317 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: of ways that women exhibit these things and how men 318 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: somehow pick up on them, and it is really interesting 319 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: to see that, you know, for people who do fit 320 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: into that that um, male female chase or ways that 321 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: we do pick up on each other's bodies. One study 322 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: that we're not even talking about because there were so 323 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: many studies about this behavior was how you know, men 324 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: could sniff the women that were opulating and the women 325 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: who were ovulating smelled better to them. Yeah, they would 326 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: just they had women where um and it was kind 327 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: of the reverse of another study that we've talked about before, 328 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: but they actually had women wear undershirts I guess without 329 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: like any additional Deodora in her perfume, and then had 330 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: men smell them, and the women who had been opulating 331 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: while wearing these shirts smelled better to the guys. So 332 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: it's on so many we talked about site, We talked 333 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: about sound of voices, scent, it's everything, and um, while 334 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: women do tend to be more flirtatious, there is also 335 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: a flip side of this behavior where um, women become 336 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: a little more self protective at the same time, right, 337 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: And this is a phenomenon I became uh familiar with 338 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: when I was looking at one of our listener sites. 339 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: Diana Fleishman, she's written in before because she does research 340 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: on this um about ways women protect themselves from sexual 341 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: assault when they are most furtl Because you know, if 342 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: you're walking, if you have to, like, for example, take 343 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: out the trash at night, you probably don't think, oh, gosh, 344 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: i'm ovulating. I shouldn't go outside because if I get raped, 345 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: I'll get pregnant. But apparently subconsciously we do that we know, oh, man, 346 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: this is this is the time I need to guard 347 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: myself from my beloved for the best firm donor I 348 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: can find, and I don't want to put myself in 349 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: any danger at this risky time. And so other researchers 350 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: have done studies that show that women will adapt more 351 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: so called non risky behaviors like staying in and studying, 352 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: or maybe sticking with groups of people instead of going 353 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: out alone. Like women tend even though they are being 354 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: so flirtatious and sending out all these signals, they don't 355 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: do things like invite a strange man into their home 356 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,479 Speaker 1: just for the sake of being pregnant. That we still have, 357 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: thank God, some ability to discern good versus bad choices. 358 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: And so they've done a few studies where they show 359 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: that women, uh, you know, if they're going out to 360 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: a club like christ And said, they'll stay with a group, 361 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: where if they're going to bar, they'll go with a group, 362 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: and they won't walk at night alone or go jogging 363 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: in the park at night. So it's it's really interesting 364 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: how women do protect themselves despite the fact that studies 365 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: have found that were more mobile, that we are out there, 366 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, mingling and wearing this clothing and do dads, 367 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: that we still are a protective of ourselves. And I 368 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: think and I feel like this this study is a 369 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: nice balance to all of these you know other things 370 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, were you know, our eggs dropping 371 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: our filopian tubes and now we're just going boggers and 372 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: buying things and wearing freely dresses all of the mew, 373 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: when did I start wearing lipstick? I don't know, you know, 374 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: it's it's nice to know that we are like practicing 375 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: some you know, some self protective behaviors as well, and 376 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: that maybe we do have a little bit of control 377 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: over this whole um apparent pregnancy drive and not to 378 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: and and I should also say we're not Molly. And 379 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're trying to disparage the quest for 380 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: having a child at all. It's just this constant theme 381 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: in all of these these studies that at the end 382 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: of the day, the only driver is reproducing um. And 383 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: let's talk about how women walk, yes, because this is 384 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: another interesting sort of self protective thing that we do. 385 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 1: And this was unexpected, you would think with you know, 386 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: when we put on our fancy duds, our fancy duds 387 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: and we go out because we want to be social 388 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: and for some reason we just have an itch to 389 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: talk to some masculine faced men. You think that we 390 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: might shake it a little bit, you might amp our 391 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: sontera maybe, you know, give him something to look at 392 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: while we walk away. But they actually have done a study, 393 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: uh two thousand eight in the Archives of Sexual Behavior, 394 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: where they turned the lights out and just did like 395 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: h light points on the women's bodies that the men 396 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: could just watch how the lights moved, and uh, the 397 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: men found the least sexy walks, you know, just the straightforward, 398 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: not not hippie walks the most attractive. Yeah, and that 399 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: corresponded to the women and who were ovulating. So while 400 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: we are doing ourselves up, apparently we're just all about business. 401 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: You know, we're not thinking about having some catwalks, saunter 402 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: whatever through the party or the bar down the street. 403 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: We are, um, we're walking a little bit differently. We're walking. 404 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: I mean, we we have done things to garner sexual attraction, attention, 405 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: but we don't want the unwanted sexual attention. Again, it's 406 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: a protective thing where we can modulate who is going 407 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: to pay attention to us. And finally, while all this 408 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: is going on, just to throw one more subliminal behavior 409 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: into the mix, apparently we are so busy getting ourselves 410 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: done up walking in a very straightforward manner that we 411 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: don't even have time to eat. We eat much less 412 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: when we were opulating. Yeah less. Yeah, a lot of times, 413 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: you know when women will talk about gaining a little 414 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: bit of weight of feeling bloated around their period and 415 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: it's awful. But the good news is girls, when you ovulate, 416 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: you just gonna drop that weight right off, so don't 417 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: worry about it. Yeah, And this work comes from Daniel Fuessler, 418 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: who is our old friend from the foot Size podcast. 419 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: He looked at all these other studies that you know, 420 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: the researchers had reported that the women were eating less, 421 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: but didn't make the connection as to why they might 422 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,239 Speaker 1: be doing that. And he thinks that if you go 423 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: back to our hunter gatherer times, which all this does, 424 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: back when we were hunting from mates and gathering babies, 425 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: um that because food was a scarce commodity back then, 426 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: if you only had this very small window to get 427 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 1: pregnant and continue the species, you would have somehow your 428 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: body would have adapted so that you had more attention 429 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: to getting pregnant then, more than the attention that would 430 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: have been necessary to you know, go hunt or gather 431 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: berries it was just a way to keep you mindful 432 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: that this is a pregnancy time, not a sit by, 433 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: sit by a fire and eat dinner time. There's no 434 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: timber romantic. And they've done similar studies in female baboons, monkeys, dogs, pigs, scouts, sheep, 435 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: dear uh. Suffice to say it happens in animals too. 436 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: When animals, female animals go into heat, they tend to 437 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: eat less. And they've done studies trying to figure out 438 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: kind of the biochemical reason why this is happening, and 439 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: they found that a certain molecule in our gut that 440 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: tells our body that it's had enough to eat. Basically, 441 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: it signals us that, um, you know, we're satisfied, we 442 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: don't need to eat anymore. When estrogen concentrations go up, 443 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: the amount of this satisfaction molecule, if you will, drops, 444 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: and even it still does that, even though now we 445 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: live in a time of plenty where you know, it's 446 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: not like you've got to worry about going out and 447 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: hunting your own food. So he's saying, this is a 448 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: pretty strong instinct that the body has to make you 449 00:23:55,080 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: focus on getting pregnant. So that's a lot of subliminals 450 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,479 Speaker 1: signs that it's baby making time. Yeah, and if we 451 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: want to know, uh listeners thoughts on this, because like 452 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: we've said, I mean, it's kind of take it all 453 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 1: with a grain of salt. But the most amazing thing 454 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: that you just might not believe is the amount of 455 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: research that's been done. Because we're just talking tossing out 456 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: different examples, but a lot of these examples are comprised 457 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: of multiple studies from multiple researchers at different institutions. People 458 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: are very interested in how women act when we opulate, 459 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: like really interested. So you might as well get in 460 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: on that that goodness of abundance of writing about it 461 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: if you're a researcher and you need to grant apparently 462 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: like opulating women is the way to go. Already giving 463 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: you that one idea about podcast voices, Yeah, so until 464 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: he needs us, all right, let's hear ma'am. I've got 465 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: one here from Liz. She writes, this is about the 466 00:24:55,160 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: penis sized podcasts. She's very controversial podcast. Well, this was 467 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: one of the funniest emails I think we got. She writes, 468 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: I worked in an ice skating rink for the last 469 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: two years and part of my job was handing out 470 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: rental skates for the public skate sessions. Every session, the 471 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: higher size men's skate sized swellman up would always run 472 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: out much sooner than the other sizes, even though I 473 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: could tell that the renter was only a nine or 474 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: a ten. These men who rented too big sizes were 475 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: always the ones with pretty girls on their arms, and 476 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: they were obviously trying to impress their dates by ordering 477 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: large sizes. I have heard that you know what they 478 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: say about men with big feet jokes? So many times 479 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: I could scream, but then these men would spend the 480 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: whole night falling on their butts and looking like idiots. 481 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: Every session I would have to wrap at least one 482 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: ankle just because Mr Macha Man was ashamed to meet 483 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: his shoe size in front of a girl. What do 484 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: you think is a better date skating with your man 485 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: or sitting on a bench and applying icy hot to 486 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: his ankle? So a question for the ages, a real 487 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: problem for men who try to exaggerate. Um, well, I've 488 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: got one. Here is sort of along the same lines. 489 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: This is in response to our Condoms podcast. Uh and 490 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: this is coming from Tracy, and she says, since I 491 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: don't tolerate hormonal birth control well, and I'm also allergic 492 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: to sperm acide. Condoms are pretty much the only option 493 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: for my husband and myself. I did notice that while 494 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: you mentioned sheef skin or animal membrane condoms, you left 495 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: out a very important piece of information. Animal membrane condoms 496 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: only protect against pregnancy. They don't protect against most STDs, 497 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: including h I V. I think it's important for people 498 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: to be aware of that if they choose animal membrane condoms, 499 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: and they should do so only if their partner is 500 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: monogamous and has been recently tested for STDs. So thank 501 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: you Tracy for the little public health announcement, and if 502 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: you have anything you'd like to share with us, feel 503 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: free to shoot us an email. It's moms Stuff at 504 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: how stuff works dot com. 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