1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,120 Speaker 1: Well, we have come in. 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: To your city. I want to pay I gets saying 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: you a conscious will be desired and if you want 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: a little banging a yuni, I come along. 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: They refused to support previous requests from the President. They 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: said no to border agents, they said no to new 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: technology to fight fentanyl. They said no to additional troops. 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: That is what Republicans have done. 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 3: The Wall Street Journal poll was, you know, very very 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 3: dark in terms from a Biden's standpoint. 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: Uh, you know, job. 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: Approval down, ratings generally down, most of the comparatives with Trump. 13 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: Fredom is back in style. Welcome to the revolution that 14 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: we have. 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 4: Coming to your city, go way against and saying you 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 4: a conscious son. 17 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 5: Sean Hannity show more him the scene's information on freaking. 18 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 3: News and more bold inspired solutions for America. 19 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome back to Hannity. 20 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 6: This is Jay Secular. Logan Seculo is with me. We 21 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 6: head up the American Center for Law and Justice. To 22 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 6: see how a senior lawyer here. We've had a lot 23 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 6: of legal things to talk about because there's a lot 24 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 6: of legal things going on. We just talked about Supreme 25 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 6: Court of the United States. We took that case to 26 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 6: Colorado's where they took Trump off the ballot. By the way, 27 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 6: that effects at least fifteen other states right now. I 28 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 6: guarantee you by the first week of January that will 29 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 6: be up to twenty there are going to consider this. 30 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 6: So that's why the Supreme Court needs to react. We 31 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 6: did just get word that the Secretary of State of 32 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 6: Colorado has said that former President Trump will be on 33 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 6: the ballot, because we filed that case yesterday. 34 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: Now, Rick Renell's joining us. 35 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 6: He is a senior advisor to the American Center for 36 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 6: Law Justice, former director of National Intelligence, former Ambassador to 37 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,639 Speaker 6: the unbassador of Germany, and official at the United Nations 38 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 6: for the United States of America. 39 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: And Rick, there's another matter pending, and. 40 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 6: I know you're concerned about free speech, like I am. 41 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 6: Jack Smith, the special counsel, who has very convoluted theories 42 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 6: of the law, quite frankly, has now after losing last 43 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 6: week his attempt to get the court to skip over 44 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 6: the Court of Appeals and the challenge that the president's 45 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 6: lawyers have made to the issue right now, which of 46 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 6: course is that the president is immune from prosecution for 47 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 6: acts that were taken while he was president, which in 48 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 6: January sixth he was still president. They wanted to skip 49 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 6: over the Court of Appeals Court of Appeals, so they 50 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 6: went to the Supreme Court saying, hey, skip the Court 51 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 6: of Appeals. You take it right away. Supreme Court said, no, 52 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 6: we're not going to do that. That was a couple 53 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 6: of days ago. Then Jack Smith came around today or 54 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 6: yesterday last night and filed a new motion saying, quote, 55 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 6: through public statements, filings and arguments and hearings before the court, 56 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 6: the defense is attempted to quote inject into this case 57 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 6: partisan political attacks and irrelevant and prejudicial issues that have 58 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 6: no place in a jury. They go on to say, 59 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 6: and this is to me is the I think the 60 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 6: line of lines they talk about, they actually use the 61 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 6: word of all things. The court should not permit the 62 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 6: defendant to turn the courtroom into a form in which 63 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 6: he propagates irrelevant Ready for this, folks, disinformation, Bring back 64 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 6: Mss Jenkowitz. She'll be the disinformation clerk there at the 65 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 6: court and she'll decide what's good. 66 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: And what's not good. 67 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 6: I'm making a joke, obviously, but the fact that they 68 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 6: think they can do this rick and silence the president 69 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 6: from and his lawyers from putting on a defense in 70 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 6: court about the political nature of this when this is 71 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 6: a political case, should have every American outraged. 72 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, Logan will. What we have to remember is that 73 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 4: Jack Smith came to the United States from the Hague. 74 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 4: He had been a prosecutor at the Hague. Working at 75 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 4: the Hague means that prosecutors really get to do whatever 76 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 4: they want. Jack Smith put the president of Kosovo, who 77 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 4: I was negotiating with and President Trump was negotiating with 78 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 4: between Coastvo and Serbia. Jack Smith put him in prison, 79 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 4: indicted the president of Costavo in the middle of our 80 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 4: negotiations and put him in prison. Hassamfasi is his name, Hashamfazi, 81 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 4: the president of Kosovo is still in prison in the 82 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,239 Speaker 4: Hague two and a half years, almost three years later. 83 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 4: Think about that, this is the Hague values. This is 84 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 4: what works at the Hague, is not what works in 85 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 4: the American court. Keenly gets to take away people's rights 86 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 4: and do whatever they want. And so Jack Smith has 87 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 4: brought the Hague values, the Hague view of the law, 88 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 4: to the United States, and what he's finding out is 89 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 4: that the United States just doesn't play up with that. 90 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: Little known fact. 91 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 6: I have made two appearances at the International Criminal Court 92 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 6: in the Hague, not a lot of lawyers have in 93 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 6: the United States. In one case and involved the situation 94 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 6: what they called in the matter of Israel. In the 95 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 6: second one, it was in the matter of the Islamic 96 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 6: Republic of Afghanistan, where the United States was the target 97 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 6: of the ICC. And I will tell you this, we 98 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 6: do a lot of work in international tribunals. When I 99 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 6: sat and watched the first case that I heard before 100 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 6: the International Criminal Court, before I even argue the case 101 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 6: I was involved in Rick Watch. I went in with 102 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 6: Israelis by the way to watch one and they were 103 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 6: trying some African general warlord who I think was seventeen 104 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 6: years old and was obviously taken from his village with 105 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 6: the threat that his family was going to be killed, 106 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 6: the kind of horrible things that happened there. And they're 107 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 6: prosecuting this guy, and they're bringing in evidence, and then 108 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 6: the prosecutor was withholding evidence and the ended up getting 109 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 6: in trouble for that. To take those values and try 110 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 6: to put that in an American system US not right. 111 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 4: No, it's when you took on the evidence issue, and 112 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 4: that is probably the biggest difference between the Head Court 113 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 4: and the United States in that the evidence is just 114 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 4: not put to the same rigor. You can say anything 115 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 4: as the prosecutor. You know, the reality is, if any 116 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 4: listeners are interested, they should go and google Jack Smith, 117 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 4: Kosovo and all of the European media that are attacking 118 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 4: Jack Smith's tactics. He put people up, witnesses up who 119 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 4: have recanted their stories and said that Jack Smith put 120 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 4: someone in front of them that appeared be a CIA 121 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 4: agent who turned out not to be a CIA agent. 122 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 4: So the charges against Jack Smith's tactics are long and troubling, 123 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 4: and our media here in the United States should do 124 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 4: a better job of looking under the hood of Jack Smith. 125 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 4: I'll finish with this Jay. You know that I've said 126 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 4: this before. The Prime Minister of Albania, who is a 127 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 4: member of NATO, has a fantastic speech attacking Jack Smith's 128 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 4: tactics and telling Europeans who are listening to him while 129 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 4: he's giving this speech in Strasburg, telling them you are 130 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 4: hypocrites for allowing Jack Smith to put Hashamzashi, the President 131 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 4: of Kosovo, into a prison without a rule of law 132 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 4: that makes sense. 133 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 6: They don't have indictments. They don't have cross examination. I 134 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 6: mean CEC does a lot of this as well. We 135 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 6: deal with these international tribunals. We're accredited with the United 136 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 6: Nations and CEC. It is a whole for this audience 137 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 6: needs to understand. When you're talking about these international tribunals, 138 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 6: it's a whole different world. 139 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 5: Right, And it's just like Rick said, I mean, rule 140 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 5: of law, it's thrown out. You said, you know, they 141 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 5: don't have cross examinations. But what's funny is Jack Smith 142 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 5: has asked this court in the United States to not 143 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 5: let to limit even the cross examination questions of Trump's attorneys. 144 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 5: He has basically asked this court to say President Trump 145 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 5: does not get the right to defend himself. And again, 146 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 5: these are the Hague tactics. This is not what happens 147 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 5: in the United States court. 148 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 6: Here's the truth about Jack Smith. Okay, he's very good 149 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 6: at getting indictments, he's not so good on convictions. And 150 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 6: let me tell you. Let me give you up three examples. 151 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 6: Bob MacDonald, governor of Virginia, prosecuted by Jack Smith. Jury 152 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 6: convicts them, it goes eventually to the Supreme Court in 153 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 6: the United States. The Supreme Court in the United States. 154 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 6: I was involved in that case nine to zero. The 155 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 6: most conservative members of the court, the most liberal members 156 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 6: of the Court reversed, saying that Jacksmith's interpretation of honor services, 157 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 6: that's what was called honor services, and the Bribery and 158 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 6: Fraud Statute would if that interpretation was right, then governors 159 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 6: could never do their job. Let's take that was a Republican. 160 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 6: Now let's go to a Democrat, John Edwards. He was 161 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 6: running to be the Vice president of the United States, 162 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 6: John Carey, Senator from North Carolina. Jack Smith brings a 163 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 6: corruption case against him. The jury, I think was out 164 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 6: for you know, hours before they came back not guilty. 165 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 6: Bob Menendez, the Senator from New Jersey, in his first hearing, 166 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 6: was his defense lawyer was my friend Abbey Law, one 167 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 6: of the best from defense Laire's in the United States. Another 168 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 6: Jack Smith prosecution. 169 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: Not guilty. 170 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 6: So he has this history and now he's taking Ricky's 171 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 6: unbelievable stretches of the law, if you can even call 172 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 6: it that, and applying it to the leading candidate for 173 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 6: president of the United States. 174 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 4: It's all politics, we see it. And I have just 175 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 4: got to say that. I think this is the fight 176 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 4: that we're in right now in America. Law fair, the 177 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 4: weaponization of the courts, the weaponization of DJ They're coming 178 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 4: at Trump with everything they have, and I thank god 179 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 4: that Trump is the one who is taking these hits 180 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 4: because I know he can take them. He's got a 181 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 4: great legal team. And if somehow they can manipulate our 182 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 4: court system to get Trump, we are next. He is 183 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 4: standing in the way for what they're trying to do 184 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 4: to us. 185 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 6: Let me tell you about the legal side of this, 186 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 6: because we're involved in this Rich just mentioned. We're involved 187 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 6: in a lot of these cases, this one on executive immunity. 188 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 6: The idea that a president could face civil or criminal 189 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 6: suits for actions they took as president of the United 190 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 6: States would impact every single president. So the answer to 191 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 6: that should be no. The idea is CC just mentioned 192 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 6: that you cannot cross examin and witnesses. If you're saying 193 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 6: the political nature of this when this is a case 194 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 6: about a political event, if you want to call. 195 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: It that, Hey, this is not the way it works 196 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: in the United States of America. 197 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 6: But he was so desperate after being denied this expedited review, 198 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 6: jump over the Court of Appeals on the executive immunity claim. 199 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 6: He was so upset about that that he comes back 200 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 6: with this motion and then to make his matter, his 201 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 6: job more difficult. One of the January sixth protesters files 202 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 6: a petition for review just like we file for the 203 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 6: Colorado Supreme Court with the Supreme Court of the United 204 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 6: States on saying, you know that obstruction of Congress statute, 205 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 6: which is the big thing they're going after with all 206 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 6: of these people. Hey, that has been viewed as being 207 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 6: over brought and unconstitutional. Judge Katsis a Court of Appeals 208 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 6: judge dissented. There was two judges said nope, it's allowed. 209 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 6: One judge said no, he said it violates freedom of speech, 210 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 6: freedom to readdress government for grievances, freedom of association. And 211 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 6: shockingly to Jack Smith, the Supreme Court took that case too. 212 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 6: So Logan, when you look at all of this right now, 213 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 6: let me tell you what it looks like. They are 214 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 6: very desperate and they are running out of options, and 215 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 6: they're throwing everything they have against the wall right now. 216 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, and if anything is just going to make President 217 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 7: Trump stronger, people more infuriated, and look, it certainly doesn't 218 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 7: diffuse that is one of my friends who I was 219 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 7: talking to when this happened, and easily moderate, I'd say, 220 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 7: abodis is what a thing to do to help not 221 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 7: let the country heal, to not let us defuse sort 222 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 7: of everyone's this is actually just gonna make this so 223 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 7: much much more of a stressful moment going into the 224 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 7: election that you can't be honest, you can't have that 225 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 7: feeling right now because you're so pent up going this 226 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 7: doesn't feel American. 227 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: Well it doesn't. And Rick, the last thing here before 228 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: we got to let you go. 229 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 6: And that is like in this Colorado case where they're 230 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 6: basically saying, you know, we're taking them off the ball, 231 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 6: and we have the right to do it, and we're 232 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 6: obviously we've taken it too. The Supreme Quarter ready the 233 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 6: American Center for Law and Justice, because we've said this 234 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 6: is ridiculous. 235 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 2: But if if we lose the right to vote, we've 236 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: lost it all. 237 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 8: Yeah. 238 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 4: Look, I'm old enough to remember a time when reporters 239 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 4: would hold the court, politicians, newsmakers to account. If they overreached, 240 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 4: they would be mocked by the media and the New 241 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 4: York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, and others. They would 242 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 4: they would be pushed to moderate, to not be so 243 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 4: part of them. The problem right now is that the 244 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 4: reporters are allowing this to happen. They're cheerleading it, and 245 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 4: so there are no consequences for people like Jack Smith 246 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 4: to bring the Hague values to America and try everything 247 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 4: he can to change our courts and manipulate and politicize 248 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 4: them because the media are not pushing back on him. 249 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 4: So there's consequences for him. He's going to continue doing it. 250 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 4: It's going to get worse. 251 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, But let me tell you this, We're fighting at 252 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 6: every step of the way. We're at the Supreme Court 253 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 6: in the United States right now in Colorado. We're going 254 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 6: to follow a brief in the case involving the executive immunity. 255 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 6: I argued a similar case for President Trump at the 256 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 6: Supreme Court three and a half years ago. We know 257 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 6: what this is, folks, and Rick, we are not going 258 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 6: to let the hag become the values of the United 259 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 6: States of America. 260 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: Thanks for being with us. We appreciate it. 261 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 6: Rick Cornell, Senior advisor to the American Center for Law 262 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 6: and Justice. 263 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 2: We've got a lot more on Hannity ahead. I do 264 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 2: want to remind everybody. 265 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 6: We are if you're just joining us J Secular, Logan 266 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 6: Secular ccile all from the American Center for Law and Justice. 267 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 6: We're guest hosting for our friend Seawn, which we really 268 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 6: appreciate because we're sharing with you the kind of work 269 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 6: we're doing. It happens to be our case is right 270 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 6: now are the news. We are in the news. 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As we are sitting 286 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 7: in for Sean, So we appreciate you doing that and 287 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 7: letting us come in and talk to you at the 288 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 7: work of the ACLJ and our new movie that's out 289 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 7: right now, sort of our last push for the movie 290 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 7: as it is the end of the Christmas season, last 291 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 7: push for. 292 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: The year, we come back to movie and he's the 293 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: co executive producer. 294 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 7: Co executi producers in the movie. Multiple times we're all in. 295 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 7: It has a great cast, I said, John Schneider and 296 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 7: James Storm and Eric Roberts and just an amazing group 297 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 7: of brad Stein, incredibly talented people, snl Lums, Jim Brewer, 298 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 7: Toria Jackson. And it's available right now on Jingle Smells 299 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 7: Dot Movie, which is Rumble Voodoo and also available. 300 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 6: On d Yeah, we encourage you go to Jingle Smells 301 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 6: Dot Movie great, especially in between Christmas and New Year. 302 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: It's a great uplifting it's it's funny, it's serious. 303 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 6: It talks about the issues we deal with, cancelation culture 304 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 6: and all of this supporting our troops. It's a great movie, 305 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 6: Jingle Smells Dot Movie. I want to get into the 306 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 6: next segment. We're talking about what's going on in the 307 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 6: Middle East because uniquely the American Center for Law and Justice. 308 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 6: We have an office in Jerusalem, So Jeff Ballamon, who's 309 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 6: our senior counsel for that office, is going to be 310 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 6: joining us now. We have already done a lot of 311 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 6: work on hostage families that we're representing. We're also doing 312 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 6: a lot of work at the United Nations. Really quickly here, Ceci, 313 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 6: What did you were working on something just the other 314 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 6: day where we filed actually on the UN issues. 315 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 5: Yes, So we have the working group on Enforster in 316 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 5: Voluntary Disappearances that we've filed with the ten Families recreage 317 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 5: hostage families. 318 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 7: Yes. 319 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 5: And then we're also working on submissions to the Commission 320 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 5: of Inquiry on hamas and their criminal actions. 321 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 6: So we're not letting we even though these institutions are 322 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 6: hostile folks, and the UN as a hostile institution, we're there. 323 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: I call it the ministry of presence. 324 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 6: You've got to be there and fight this out, whether 325 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 6: it's comfortable or not. Same thing when you're fighting, you 326 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 6: make sure that your client's on the ballot in Colorado 327 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 6: or for a school board hearing in Nevada. 328 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: You gotta be there. You got to show up. We 329 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: do that at the ACLJ. 330 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 6: Check us out at the American Center for Law and 331 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 6: Justice ACLJ dot org. And if you want to support 332 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 6: our efforts, we're nonprofit organization, go to ACLJ dot org. 333 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 6: Any amount you donate to the ACLJ right now is 334 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 6: going to be tripled by other donors. So ACLJ dot org. 335 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 6: Mora Hannity coming right up. You can't always get what 336 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 6: you want, but you can get Sean Hannity online at Hannity. 337 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: Come. Hey, welcome back to Hannity everybody. This is Jay Secular, 338 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: Logan Secular. 339 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 6: We're hosting for Shawn cc house, Senior counsel for our organization, 340 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 6: the ACLJ. American Center alon Justice is with us. By 341 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 6: the way, if you like the music you're hearing, that 342 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 6: is from the band I'm in. And we actually have 343 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 6: a concert that's going to be on Rumble, YouTube, Facebook 344 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 6: and ex Twitter on New Year's Eve at about was 345 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 6: it eight o'clock Eastern time or seven o'clock Eastern time? 346 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 6: I think eight eight eight Eastern time, And you go 347 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 6: to any of those sites you can see it live. 348 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: It's about a two hour concert. You're gonna want to 349 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: do that. 350 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 6: We have an office the American Center for on justin 351 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 6: I want to focus on the Middle East for this 352 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 6: next segment. In Jerusalem, We've had it there for a 353 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 6: number of years. Jif Ballaban's senior lawyer for US at 354 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 6: the ACLJ runs that office. Jeff is with us on 355 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 6: the phone, and Jeff, you know, I'm looking at headlines 356 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 6: and we follow this horrible situation that took place on 357 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 6: October seventh. We're doing a lot of legal work for 358 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 6: the families. But you look at the headlines. Turkey's Ertawan 359 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 6: says Israeli Prime minister and yeah, who no different from Hitler. 360 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 6: CBS News Israel warns about Lebanon border hostilities. The hourglass 361 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 6: for a political sentiment is running out. These are the 362 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 6: headlines NBC second American hostage and gods that declared dead 363 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 6: as Israeli ministers warned the war could expand. Fox News 364 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 6: nearly eight thousand strong. That's another matter. But let's focus 365 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 6: on the Israel situation here. You just got back. I 366 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 6: know you're returning. Where do you see things right now? 367 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 8: Well, Jay, it is in fact the multi war front. 368 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 8: And I don't just mean in the south of Israel, 369 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 8: in the North of Israel, potentially their largest, most dangerous 370 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 8: and vulnerable border, which is with Jaday and Tamara and Jordan, 371 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 8: and in the Middle they have a lot of citing 372 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 8: authority controlled areas which are pure teriff havens. And so 373 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 8: it's a multi front war. But then there's the multifront 374 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 8: war in terms of lawfare around the world which we 375 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 8: work on, in terms of the political dynamics that the 376 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 8: incredible pressure Israel and Israel alone is never allowed to 377 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 8: defend itself. Israel and Israel alone is called genocidal when 378 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 8: it just seeks to defend itself from actual genocidal maniacs. 379 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 8: And that's what's happening. It's a multi front war against 380 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 8: the existence of the Jewish state and now against the 381 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 8: distance of the Jewish people. 382 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 6: I said to you, You and I had a conversation 383 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 6: the other night, late at night. I said, this is 384 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 6: an existential threat to the Jewish state of Israel, to 385 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 6: Jewish people. I said, it is an existential threat because 386 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 6: as world opinion quickly changes, which is what happens in 387 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 6: these in these conflicts with Israel, and the atrocities were unbelievable. 388 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 6: People are already forgetting about the horrific atrocities that took 389 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 6: place here. 390 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 8: One hundred percent. I mean, it's almost as though the 391 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 8: only significant pocket of support for decency, humanity, morality is 392 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 8: in America, a little bit in some of the states 393 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 8: in Europe, but otherwise the world has gone mad. There 394 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 8: out there you saw there wasn't even a breath to take. 395 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 8: It was immediately after the most disgusting massacre really in memory, 396 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 8: a horrific act, and they started becoming in public and 397 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 8: people are out in the streets. It's so good about 398 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 8: the Arab world's to good about the Muslim world in 399 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 8: the West, on the side of the genocidal maniacs calling 400 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 8: for the jerradication of the Jewish state and indeed calling 401 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 8: gas the Jews not destroyed as well gas the Jews, 402 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 8: kill the. 403 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 2: Jews, the anti Semitism. 404 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 6: We've represented students that are facing horrible acts, but we're 405 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 6: also operating at the United Nations. I need to say 406 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 6: this are we have an office in Strasburg, France, are 407 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 6: European Center for Law and Justice. Just ten days ago 408 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 6: finished a family delegation with multiple families of hostages. They 409 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 6: were at the European Parliament, they were at the Council 410 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 6: of Europe. They met with government leaders to tell the 411 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 6: story so people don't forget. Now the hostage situation is 412 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 6: looking grim. I'm going to be the first woman. There 413 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 6: was a report today that another American hostage was actually 414 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 6: killed on October seventh. They thought they were a hostage. 415 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 6: They apparently were not. But I want people to understand 416 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 6: that you've got to keep this at the forefront. 417 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 2: And C. C. 418 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 6: Hiles with us, who heads up a lot of our 419 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 6: work at the United Nations, and we have taken an aggressive, 420 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 6: aggressive action at the UN on behalf of Israel. 421 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, and what's important to note is at the United 422 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 5: Nations there are more resolutions condemning Israel than any other 423 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 5: member state. And our ECLJ, which is an NGO at 424 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 5: the United Nations, we always stand up and we always 425 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 5: fight for Israel because they do have a right to 426 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 5: self defense. But with this hostage situation and what happened, 427 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 5: the horrific acts that happened on October seventh, we filed 428 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 5: with the Working Group on enforcedter in Voluntary Disappearances, which 429 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 5: is a working group body within the United Nations that 430 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 5: handles hostage situations, and we did so on behalf of 431 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,959 Speaker 5: ten clients. And we've done letters to the Commission of Inquiry. 432 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 5: We've done submissions to the Commission of Injury, We've done 433 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 5: letters to the Secretary General demanded that they condemn the 434 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 5: horrific acts of Hamas against Israel. 435 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,719 Speaker 6: You know, Jeff, that attack I think, you know, I 436 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 6: never like using a Holocaust examp, you know, comparison, but 437 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 6: it has that exact feeling. 438 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 8: Jay, I mean, we share a certain family history here. 439 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 8: You know, my family, My mother is a survivor, her 440 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 8: parents were killed, and the entireity essentially the White paths, 441 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 8: and I will do not heditation. What's going on now 442 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 8: is worse. It's worse because number one of the world 443 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 8: knows that genocide of the Jews has always been on 444 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 8: the agenda, and they saw it. Could claim to have 445 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 8: been shocked in the last world. They cannot claim to 446 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 8: be shocked now, number one. Number two, the amount of 447 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 8: support across Palestinian world dwarfs the support that Hitler had 448 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 8: among the Germans. Number three, the amount of support run 449 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 8: the world for this dwarfs. What was he then? This 450 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 8: is potentially worse. And you know what, in our day 451 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 8: and age, there's nowhere for Jews to run and hide 452 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 8: because of monern technology. What we're seeing now is in fact, 453 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 8: as you just said, an existential threat for the State 454 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 8: of Israel, but also for Jews Jewish populations everywhere on 455 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 8: the globe. That's why, by the way, what we're doing 456 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 8: is so important on so many levels day everything you're 457 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 8: talking about where HLJ is confronting it, there's really no 458 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 8: limit to the fronts in which it has to be confronted. 459 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 8: And it's amazing that HLJ is really dairy place. 460 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been doing it for a long time. 461 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 6: Logan, I was gonna ask you this because I know 462 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 6: you've got a friend that are your age or in 463 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 6: your late thirties. 464 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 2: Is this issue resonating it did initially? What about now? 465 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it is resonating. Sadly, I'm not sure 466 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 7: if Israel's winning the pr war, and that's the problem, 467 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 7: and I'm spending a lot of time I feel like 468 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 7: talking about this and trying to explain it to people, 469 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 7: because you do see images, the images that are posted 470 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 7: and out of Gaza and out of juday As Samary you, 471 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 7: it's hard not to talk in your heartstrings, just as 472 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 7: that did back in October six, So it's hard not 473 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 7: to have those conversations and then you have the problem 474 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 7: is is there there's what feels like a technological bot 475 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 7: war happening. 476 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: Uh, if you post something it's pro Israel. 477 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, and I noticed it last week on Christmas Eve, 478 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 7: Stephen fry who's the British commentator and speaker, and uh, 479 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 7: you know, he posted a whole Christmas message and it 480 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 7: was about growing up. First a half was about growing up, 481 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 7: you know, being unsure of being you know, openly gay 482 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 7: and in Britain and how that that was something that 483 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 7: he had to deal with. But he never thought about 484 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 7: being openly Jewish and that being a concern and now 485 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 7: that's the number one concern as we've progressed. But look 486 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 7: at the comments on that. They to turn the comments 487 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 7: off on YouTube. Really they had to look at the 488 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 7: response mass boycotts of Stephen Frye. Again not exactly the 489 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 7: voice of conservatism, not exactly the voice of anything that 490 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 7: probably this audience would would appreciate other than maybe his work. 491 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 2: So you see that, and it. 492 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 7: Is pretty shocking because you watch it as a what 493 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 7: would could be considered a normal American or a Westerner, 494 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 7: and you watch it and go, how could anyone have 495 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,719 Speaker 7: any problems with this, But you look at the comments 496 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 7: and it's all, well, you know, you're ignoring the genocide happening, 497 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 7: and sadly that's what's happening in Western society. Sure a 498 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 7: lot of it is bots. Sure a lot of it 499 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 7: is going through and saying okay. Which again also remember 500 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 7: because I think it's easy for us to kind of 501 00:24:55,480 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 7: connect Gaza and the connect Hamas was almost like a 502 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 7: Taliban or even a you know, like it's easy almost 503 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 7: like put those two together. Yeah, but this is technologically, 504 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 7: you know, they're working all these things to where there's 505 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 7: massive response. There's massive digital response, Yeah, in a way 506 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 7: that frankly Israel does not have. 507 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, Jeff, we taught you and I 508 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 6: talked about this. The messaging from Israel needs some help. 509 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 8: I agree, Jah. You know, part of the problem is, 510 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 8: you know, Logan's expressing concern of what he sees at 511 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 8: their response is Stephen Fray's beautiful message, very simple message 512 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 8: about just goodness and brotherhood, and that's what's happening. Israel 513 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 8: unfortunately projects the humanity onto the world, not recognizing that 514 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 8: for much of the world, maybe even most of the world, 515 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 8: they few jus is evil. There's something the loudest ones. 516 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 8: I don't know if it's most of them, and so 517 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 8: Israel things it's going to be judged by its behavior. 518 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 8: And on that stand, it is the most moral army 519 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 8: in the world and it's waging a war actually shockingly 520 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 8: low civilian lateral death count, shockingly low according to every 521 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 8: military expert. But according to the world, you know, it's 522 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 8: pure evil. And that's what Israel's never understand. They're not 523 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 8: being judged by their behavior. They're simply being just evil 524 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 8: for being Jewish. There's nothing more complicated than that. And 525 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 8: that's the reality. 526 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 6: We Rick Brannella on earlier and we were talking about 527 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 6: the International Criminal Court in the Hague and I've been 528 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 6: to the ICC the office of the Prosecutor dealing with 529 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 6: the matter involving Israel, and we resolved successfully, but it 530 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 6: was it kind of tells you the nature this. Jeff, 531 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 6: we appreciate you being with the thanks for taking the time. 532 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 6: Jeff Balban is a senior counselor for the ACLJ out 533 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 6: of our office in Jerusalem. 534 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 2: We appreciate that. 535 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 6: But I'll tell you the other aspect of this that's 536 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 6: important is you've got to be there you've got to 537 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 6: fight these fights. So, like I said, we've got an 538 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 6: office in Jerusalem. Jeff's heading back there now. We're fighting 539 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 6: at the United Nations right now. Our European Center for 540 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 6: Law and Justice just had families of hostages throughout the 541 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 6: European Parliament and the Council of Europe. In the United States, 542 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 6: we just had our govern Affairs team with the American 543 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 6: Center for Law Justice hosted a series of families to 544 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 6: meet with Lee's of both Republicans and Democrats at the 545 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 6: House of Representative Ccnward In Israel, I mean Israel, and 546 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 6: an event for Israel just last week with representatives from 547 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 6: South Korea to show the support that they're getting there. 548 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 6: But you've got to keep this at the forefront because 549 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 6: people do forget. 550 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 5: Absolutely and you have to be we have to be 551 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 5: the voice that supports Israel, because again at the United 552 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 5: Nations and throughout the rest of the world, Israel gets 553 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 5: wrongfully painted as the bad guy and they are not. 554 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 5: They have a right to self defense. They were horrifically 555 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 5: attacked by Hamas on October seventh, and their response has 556 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 5: been very much legal and appropriate and proportional, and yet 557 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 5: they still get painted as the bad guys. So we 558 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 5: have to be there. We have to be defending, we 559 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 5: have to be speaking the truth. And the ACLJ is there. 560 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and our European Center for Law and Justice affiliate. 561 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 6: We sent a letter already to the ICC prosecutor saying, hey, listen, 562 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 6: you said you wanted to talk to families. Where we 563 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 6: represent families, and these families have had their loved ones 564 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 6: killed in a horrible, horrific incident. 565 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 2: But what I want to tell you is the American 566 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 2: Center for Law. 567 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 6: And Justice, our organization, the ECLJ, the European Center for 568 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 6: Law and Justice, the aclj's office in Jerusalem. All of 569 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 6: those offices are working together, and those officers are supported 570 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 6: from people like you because we're a nonprofit organization, and 571 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 6: what that means is we're support We have donors from 572 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 6: around the country that support our work and logan. 573 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 2: People need to understand that we don't charge for our services. 574 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 2: We do this. 575 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 6: Everything's pro bono. Everything's free to the clients. We obviously 576 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 6: we have to pay our staff and our lawyers and 577 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 6: our media people, but your support of the ACLJ makes 578 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 6: a huge difference. 579 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 7: That's right, and right now we're in the ACLJ faith 580 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 7: and freedom year in drive. It means it wraps up 581 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 7: in just a couple of days and we've been able 582 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 7: to unlock a three times match right now. And look 583 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 7: when you hear those conversations coming out of Israel and 584 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 7: our offices there, I mean, this couldnot be a time 585 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 7: that's more important to support the work, not just what 586 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 7: we're doing, but also to get yourself involved. Maybe you're 587 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 7: feeling maybe you're feeling the world is on fire, I mean, 588 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 7: and you don't know what else you can do. This 589 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 7: is a good way to really start the process helping. 590 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 7: I was at a Christmas event and you know, the 591 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 7: lead singer, maybe Michael W. 592 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:10,959 Speaker 2: Smith was performing. 593 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 7: You know, it's the most wonderful time of the year, 594 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 7: and he at least had to stop himself sort of, 595 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 7: you know, halfway through their performance, not the song, but 596 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 7: of this show and say, you know what, we can't 597 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 7: just sit around here. They'll pretend everything is okay. You know, 598 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 7: the world is on fire. It is something that we're 599 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 7: dealing with right now. And he was like, I'm not 600 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 7: gonna get political, but we kind of all know where 601 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 7: where we stand. And I feel like this is that 602 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 7: moment that this feels that way, it feels like a 603 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 7: very dark time. It looks like a lot of dark 604 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 7: time for people. They need hope, they need something. So 605 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 7: we have to be there for him and really be 606 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,239 Speaker 7: able to support and look, this a good, good way 607 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 7: to do it. 608 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, And so if you're looking at your ugiving to 609 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 6: a nonprofit organization, you get the tax deduction ACLJ dot 610 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 6: org And as Logan said, we're our faith in Freedom's drive. 611 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 6: But for the first time in our history, it's a 612 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 6: triple match. 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Support the work back with more 622 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 6: Hannity in a few minutes. 623 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 7: Welcome back to Hannity Logan, Seculo J, Secular, and CCIW. 624 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,719 Speaker 7: And we are going to keep talking about the work 625 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 7: of the ACLJ, but also talk about obviously the cases 626 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 7: that are going on with President Trump. 627 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: Philly's involved in a. 628 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 7: Lot right now, really and you maybe at this audience 629 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 7: needs to know sort of a a level of importance. 630 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 7: What do they need to be paying attention to. 631 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 6: So I think number one is your right to vote, 632 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 6: and that's the Colorado case that is now at the 633 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 6: Supreme Court. And then the request for expedited review. The 634 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 6: other side even agrees that needs to be expedited. I 635 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 6: was watching some of the commentators. That's our case of 636 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 6: the American Center for Law and Justice. We represent the 637 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 6: Colorado Republican Party. So that's a huge case. The executive 638 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 6: immunity case at the Supreme Court of the United States, 639 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 6: well not yet, it's at the DC Court of Appeals. 640 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 6: Jackson try to, you know, basically hijack that case and 641 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 6: move it to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court said, 642 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 6: not so fast. You got to go through the Court 643 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 6: of Appeals. That was a big rebuke to Jack Smith. 644 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 6: That's a big one. And then you've got these state 645 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 6: challenges in with the like Colorado in fifteen states right now. 646 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 6: So there's a lot going on, and all of these 647 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 6: affect your ability to. 648 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: Vote for the Canada of your choice. 649 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 6: But let me tell you about this Colorado case and 650 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 6: why I think it's the most important one. Folks, we 651 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 6: live in a constitution republic. If you do not have 652 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 6: the right to vote, you have no liberty. 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