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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Elizabeth Dutton Sarah Burnette, So good to see you,

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Speaker 2: really good to see you got a big smile on

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Speaker 2: your face.

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Speaker 1: To see it, I try and face the world with

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Speaker 1: this smile no matter what. So we're past the I

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Speaker 1: have resting smile face.

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Speaker 2: Do you the kind of do? It's nice? I like

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Speaker 2: that you do kind of. So are we past the

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Speaker 2: autumn of dark? Elizabeth?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think so. I'm keeping the lights

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Speaker 1: on as much as I can.

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Speaker 2: I like that. Can I just get a question while

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Speaker 2: we're at it? Do you know what's ridiculous?

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Speaker 1: Honey, Honey, I know it's ridiculous. Okay, So there's this company. Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, this comes from Rose aka the Envious

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Speaker 1: Moon on Instagram. And Rose gave me something.

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Speaker 2: Is Rose and antagonist to me? Is this going to

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Speaker 2: be a mashup?

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Speaker 1: No, it's not a mashup.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Rose is like beneficently giving us this. I just I'm

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Speaker 1: like high on this. I'm so excited for it. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So there's this company called Cremation Solutions Toro's Traditions, Live Love.

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Speaker 1: Remember I want to be cremated when I go. Remember

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Speaker 1: that's what it says. I want to be cremated when

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Speaker 1: I go. I used to want to like have my

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Speaker 1: ashes just left in a filing cabinet somewhere and forgotten.

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Speaker 2: But a folder or just a pile of a.

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Speaker 1: Cardboard box in a plastic bag inside of cardboard. Yes,

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Speaker 1: but I've just I've revamped that, and I think I

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Speaker 1: want to like be in various parts of you know,

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Speaker 1: beautiful places in California.

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Speaker 2: Ah, sprinkle little hair, sprinkle.

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Speaker 1: Sprinkle me, sprinkle me, sprinkle me's erin. Okay. So this

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Speaker 1: place they do like cremation earns, and they make cremation jewelry. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then yeah exactly, and then they have keepsakes. And

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Speaker 1: I saw this one where I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: Zera needs this. You have when I die, you get this, okay.

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Speaker 1: And it's it's small classic pipe. It's a little weed pipe,

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Speaker 1: a glass weed pipe, and they put the ashes in so.

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Speaker 2: Instead of like roll you haven't smoked me when I die,

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Speaker 2: it's turn into pipe and smoke.

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Speaker 1: And so I'd like for that to happen. And uh,

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Speaker 1: you know there are six color options. Anyway, that's not

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Speaker 1: the important part. Okay. So this company makes something called

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Speaker 1: the Loved One Launcher. Oh what an ash scattering cannon?

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Speaker 2: Wait what now I know? I know loved one launcher.

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Speaker 1: A loved one launcher three and ninety five dollars. Let me,

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Speaker 1: let me, let me show you a picture of what

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Speaker 1: this thing looks like. So this is a potato gun

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Speaker 1: pretty much.

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Speaker 2: It comes in a potato gun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it comes in either like rainbow iridescent kind of

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Speaker 1: shark or they have don't forget to ask about our

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Speaker 1: all new, all black, badass model for those who lived

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Speaker 1: a badass life. Okay, fine, can I read you.

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Speaker 2: The whole I was afraid you will?

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Speaker 1: Okay out with a bang, it says. The Loved One

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Speaker 1: Launcher is the ultimate way to send a loved one

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Speaker 1: out with the same passion they had in life. This

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Speaker 1: handheld scattering cannon is perfect for life celebration parties and

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Speaker 1: memorial services, allowing the earthly remains of any beloved human

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Speaker 1: or pet to be shot into the air to be scattered.

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Speaker 1: A life lived to the fullest is not something to mourn.

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Speaker 1: It warrants celebration, and the loved One Launcher is the

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Speaker 1: perfect way to easily and gracefully bid them farewell, I

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Speaker 1: have two more paragraphs. Oh my god, the sight of

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Speaker 1: blasting the ashes into the sky will bring to mind

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Speaker 1: feelings of celebration, happiness, and companionship. Sometimes it can be

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Speaker 1: difficult to express just how large and impact people can

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Speaker 1: have on others' lives. But nothing drives that home like

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Speaker 1: looking back on a life well lived. A hand, joy, laughter,

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Speaker 1: and most of all, love are the experiences in life

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Speaker 1: that we cherish, and it is those experiences we revere

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Speaker 1: as we come together to honor someone's passing. This is like, oh,

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Speaker 1: put this in the memorial service text. You can use this.

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Speaker 1: The loved one launcher is the only device of its

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Speaker 1: kind that will And then this part is in bold

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Speaker 1: of course, this is the shoot Earthly remains over seventy

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Speaker 1: feet into the air, allowing for a wide dispersal of

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Speaker 1: ashes that can be by all in attendance. To add

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Speaker 1: to the celebration. Ashes can be mixed with confetti or

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Speaker 1: even streamers for a dreamy visual effect. Streamers creating streamers

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Speaker 1: creating a beautiful, joyful scene that sets the perfect tone.

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Speaker 1: Really perfecting homage to a loved one's life is simple

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Speaker 1: and intimate, with what feels like a daytime fireworks display

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Speaker 1: their honor daytime fires. The launcher should not be aimed

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Speaker 1: at any structure or living things. As its blast is powerful.

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Speaker 1: It should only be handled and operated by an adult.

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Speaker 1: Avoid shooting into oncoming wind, downwind, or still air only.

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Speaker 1: End Note that it will take two shots to disperse

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Speaker 1: all the ashes of an average and adult. More shots

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Speaker 1: if more confetti is desired. The results in He's a

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Speaker 1: Big Boy, They'll vary depending on contents of cannon and

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Speaker 1: win conditions if any.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: So it comes with everything you need for two shots.

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Speaker 1: It uses two CO two cartridges per shot, so it's

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Speaker 1: like a shotgun you put yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, are they imagining this would be like a family

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Speaker 3: item that you would like hand down, because otherwise it

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Speaker 3: seems like more of a rental item than an owner.

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Speaker 1: Now this becomes the family shooter because you're going to

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Speaker 1: get the cannon and then you can buy packs of

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Speaker 1: CO two cartridges. Sell you a thirty pack of CO

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Speaker 1: two cartridges, and that's if there's like a you know,

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Speaker 1: tragic like you lose boat stings. There's biodegradable confetti, and

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Speaker 1: then there's standard confetti. Who are streamers? You can get

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Speaker 1: eight shots of streamers for forty five dollars out the door.

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Speaker 2: Can you do like a mix and match? You loaded

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Speaker 2: up with color and you can kind of do like,

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Speaker 2: let's denounce the baby and takeodbye to Grandpa.

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Speaker 1: The limits, Darin, this guy is the limit. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: could be a gender reveal.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe, Yeah, it's like it's grandma.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, get the timings just right, save well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when you cremate someone, you can wait. It's

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Speaker 1: not like the beginning, so you just wait until the

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Speaker 2: I'm not thinking in the right term.

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Speaker 1: I mean they'll get you an earn for them anyway.

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Speaker 1: Cremation Solutions dot Com.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was ridiculous when like Johnny Depp and like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I think Bill Murray and a couple

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Speaker 2: other people like Benicio del Toro pulled their money to

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Speaker 2: like I think launch Hunter s Thompson's remains with the cannon.

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Speaker 2: Remember that he passed away, and I was like, wow,

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Speaker 2: that was like the peak of self importance. They gave

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Speaker 2: him his dream and they all like, these are such

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Speaker 1: Anyone anyone can be. They also do before sure, it's

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Speaker 1: they'll take a photo of your loved ones and you

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Speaker 1: can shoot that and no, let you just shoot at

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Speaker 1: it and then they like make the ink out of

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Speaker 1: the ashes in its canvas. This past ridiculous and I

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Speaker 1: love it so much.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of clearing a landing, Elizabeth, I've got something for you.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what this is ridiculous?

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you for indulging me in that.

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Speaker 2: Of course, an amateur pilot who's flying a homemade vehicle

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Speaker 2: that's built from a lawn chair in balloons. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's like a real life Disney cartoon. That was that

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Speaker 2: upper Yeah yeah, but this one was real and you

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Speaker 2: better believe it was ridiculous. Boy, This is Ridiculous Crime

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Speaker 2: A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers. Hi sand Comes.

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Speaker 3: It's always ninety nine percent murder free and one hundred

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Speaker 3: percent ridiculous. Oh, Elizabeth Zerin this fella I want to

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Speaker 3: tell you about today is a hero to amateur stunt

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Speaker 3: men such as myself, to amateur pilots in amateur inventors

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Speaker 3: and innovators and garage tinkerers and shade tree mechanics.

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Speaker 2: Okay, right, this man once accidentally blacked out a whole

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Speaker 2: long beach neighborhood. This man once won the top prize

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Speaker 2: from the notorious Bonehead Club of Dallas.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 2: This man once had George Plimpton travel across the country

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Speaker 2: to say about himself and about life. Elizabeth, I'd like

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Speaker 2: to introduce you to the Man of the Hour, Larry

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Speaker 2: Walters aka lawn Chair Larry.

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Speaker 1: Lawn Chair Larry.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we've been recommended this show in the past. I

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Speaker 2: believe it by a few people, So I would say

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Speaker 2: thank you to all the recommend nations. They were excellent.

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Speaker 2: This story is incredible, Okay. Born in nineteen forty nine,

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Speaker 2: a baby boomer ifever there were one. He grew up

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Speaker 2: Vietnam as a cook. He was a lifelong bachelor, never married,

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Speaker 2: had no children. Yes, lawn Chair Larry, though, had a

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Speaker 2: very fulfilling life, because one day this man did the

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Speaker 2: near impossible, Elizabeth. He made his lifelong dream come true.

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Speaker 2: How rare is that someone has a dream for decades

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Speaker 1: I love that for him.

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Speaker 2: You see in Elizabeth in nineteen eighty two, lawn Chair

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Speaker 2: Larry took to the skies and his homemade flying machine,

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Speaker 2: and he made history, aviation history. But don't take my

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Speaker 2: word for it, take the word of author George Plunton.

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Speaker 2: As I said up top, this chronicler of American culture,

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Speaker 2: he once traveled across our great country just to speak

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in person.

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Speaker 2: Yes. In nineteen ninety eight, five years after the amateur

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Speaker 2: pilot and aerospace inventor sadly passed away, George Plimpton publishes

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Speaker 2: a story in The New Yorker all about Lawnchair Larry.

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Speaker 2: Why was five years later? I don't know. Maybe I

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Speaker 2: ever finally got around to it. A lot to process, anyway.

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Speaker 2: He writes about traveling out to Long Beach to meet

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Speaker 2: the man and those who intimately know Lawnchair Larry, right,

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Speaker 2: George Plimpton, he wished to examine the legend because you know,

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Speaker 2: he's basically a novelist writing nonfiction, you know that creative nonfiction.

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Speaker 2: He's really trying to penetrate the man and get in

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Speaker 2: past the persona get to the real Larry. Right, So

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Speaker 2: who is this man who dared to fly in a

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Speaker 1: The inner nuggets of Larry.

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Speaker 2: You can't just be a beating heart of crazy cattle.

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Speaker 2: So obviously there are just so many questions to be asked.

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Speaker 2: So let's dive in Elizabeth. As Plimpton reports in his

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Speaker 2: New Yorker story, he goes and he speaks with Carol

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Speaker 2: actually okay, and she recalls to Plimpton about how, quote,

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Speaker 2: was going to take off from my backyard. I said,

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Speaker 2: no way, illegal. I don't want to be stuck with

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Speaker 2: I'm going to take off from your backyard. So this

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Speaker 2: so Carol, she's good people. I like her, good partner,

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Speaker 2: According to Carol, the OGU plan was two chairs side

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Speaker 2: So what kind of homemade flying machine are we talking about?

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Speaker 2: Can we get more weather?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, big balloons of that, big balloons and two clouds

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're in a backyard long beach filling up

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Speaker 2: You can pretty much tell like as we've heard before,

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Speaker 2: a commercial or a TV show, we're shooting a movie.

439
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 2: You know. They just s don't seem to ask questions

440
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 2: past that point.

441
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 1: This is for the hit ABC show nine one one exactly.

442
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:30,400
Speaker 2: Don't cups your eyes. We're busy, we're working here. We're

443
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 2: on the Golden Hour. Anyway. Beneath his four clusters of

444
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 2: weather BALLOONSA, they're four clusters, but they arrange into two

445
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 2: clouds right, so he's got a left, right, left, right,

446
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 2: and then they're two different flights separated by a guest.

447
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: It's huge.

448
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 2: Right, So four ropes attach this group this clusters to

449
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 2: a standard sears Roebuck style.

450
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 1: Aluminum lawn chair god bliss.

451
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, as Larry puts it, it was an ordinary lawn chair.

452
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,919
Speaker 2: Waffle iron webbing in the seat, tubular aluminum armrests, aren't sturdy.

453
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 2: Little chair cost me one hundred and nine dollars. In fact,

454
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 2: afterward my mother went out and bought two of them.

455
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: They were on sale.

456
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: I love those chairs, by the way.

457
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was expensive. Now his design phase, Larry did

458
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 2: consider using more standard like the basket the other balloonists

459
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 2: seem to prefer. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, and now Larry finds

460
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 2: that a lawn.

461
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 1: Chair is better suited to his needs.

462
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 2: At the base for ballast Larry rigs up an arrangement

463
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 2: of thirteen five gallon plastic water jugs. I don't even

464
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 2: know why. Now for safety, though, he does bring a

465
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 2: life jacket. You see, his friend looked at a map

466
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 2: and was like, Larry, you could blow out over the

467
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 2: Pacific now, and if you crash far enough out, they'll

468
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 2: take you a while to reach it with the coastguard.

469
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 2: So he got a jacket. I thought you that sounds

470
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 2: like something libits Elizabeth might say. Now, Larry, he made

471
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 2: a last minute trip on the morning of the flight

472
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 2: to run down to a marine supply store and purchase

473
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,959
Speaker 2: his head life jacket. He was like, oh, yeah, it's right,

474
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 2: I need to get that.

475
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 1: He's just like in line at West Marine.

476
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 2: See, Larry was considering all the possibilities. He also brought

477
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 2: a parachute. Yes, life and a parachute. That's like the

478
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 2: surf and turf of emergency supplies.

479
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 1: Clever.

480
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: So his girlfriend Carol, she'd convinced Larry that he'd probably

481
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 2: want to bring a parachute because in case something goes wrong,

482
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 2: he could leap from his flying machine and you know

483
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 2: if he needs to ditch, right, But.

484
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: How why is imagining he'd get, Oh, just deploy quickly.

485
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, depending, well, just you wait, Larry. He goes out

486
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 2: to els Nor Flight School and takes a course on

487
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 2: how to use a parachute. He makes one successful jump

488
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 2: and he's like, I'm good. Yeah. So George Plumpton, he

489
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 2: asked Larry after hearing this, if the experience of jumping

490
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 2: out of a perfectly good airplane and flying through the

491
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 2: skies as he'd always dreamed, and then you know, pulling

492
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 2: the rip cord and parachuting he darts safely, if that

493
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 2: came close to scratching the itch he'd always had, and

494
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 2: Larry's like, oh no, no, no, no, no no no.

495
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 2: So having completed, of course, and he's taken hold of

496
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 2: him right, he is possessed of this. Now completing his

497
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:02,959
Speaker 2: one successful parachute jump, Larry considers himself a qualified amateur pilot,

498
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: so he buys a parachute for eight hundred bucks. Then

499
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 2: the big day arrives. He's there in Carol's backyard. He

500
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 2: arranges his bouquet of weather balloons, straps on his parachute.

501
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 2: He checks his supplies, he checks the ropes in the rigging.

502
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 2: Then he climbs into his launch chair and he calls

503
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 2: his flying machine Elizabeth. The inspiration one. Now, yes, he

504
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 2: assumes there may be an inspiration two or three. It's

505
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: a little bit bold, but anyway. He takes six full

506
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: grown adults and he asks them to hold the tether

507
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 2: ropes that keep the balloon of his flying machine in

508
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: place tied down while he's in the chair. Right for

509
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: his first flight, Larry plans, I thought, I told you

510
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,239
Speaker 2: to go about a one hundred feet all right, So

511
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 2: he's got a tether attached to his friend's car, and

512
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 2: his friends he's got a big car. It's a sixty

513
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 2: two Bonneville. Oh, He's like, that should do the trick.

514
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: That's more than a couple tons. It's at least maybe

515
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 2: a tony whatever, it's enough, it should do it the trick. Now,

516
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 2: this heavy ass car, Larry's like, inspiration should be safe. Okay,

517
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 2: let's go up, let's drive the viabil of my design.

518
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 2: And you know he's feeling good about this, right, But

519
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: you know, as I've told you, the math is a

520
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 2: little rough. Right, He's done a little bit bit of approximations,

521
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 2: like this should do that, this should do this. So

522
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 2: at this point, also I forgot to tell you, it's

523
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: July second, nineteen eighty two.

524
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: July second.

525
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 2: Man, I don't know why he didn't wait till July fourth.

526
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: This seems like a July fourth behavior, if ever I've

527
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 2: heard of one.

528
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: No, because July fourth is like first responder night.

529
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 2: Now in the morning he's doing this day.

530
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: People are blowing their hands off because there's like people

531
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: at the beach who would never go in the water

532
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 1: that are suddenly like, you know, that's.

533
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 2: A good point. So at this point he's in the chair.

534
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: The chair is tethered he's in his girlfriend's backyard. He's

535
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 2: got all forty two helium filled high altitude weather balloons

536
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: above him, and they're indeck of around like San Pedro,

537
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 2: California Long Beach. Yeah right, it's as it said, tether

538
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 2: to the sixty two Bonneville six friends holding the guideline.

539
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 2: Larry climbs into the sears Roebuck aluminum chair gets situated,

540
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 2: you know, so you can properly picture this design. The

541
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 2: lawn chair is till to back at about ten degrees. Okay,

542
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 2: it's just slightly reclined. Yeah, there's no seat belt, no

543
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 2: safety strap, nothing to keep him in this chair. Just

544
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 2: eat that ten degree angle of recline.

545
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to just keep picturing him on the

546
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: ground because, as you know, I don't do heights, well,

547
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: you do.

548
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 2: Not, sob He brings with him a two way radio

549
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: and altimeter so he can no altitude. He's got a

550
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 2: hand compassing know what direction he's going, flashlight in case

551
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 2: I don't know it goes till the dark, extra batteries

552
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 2: for the flashlight, a medical kit, a pocket knife, always

553
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 2: good to have a pocket knife. Yeah, package of beef

554
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: jerky case.

555
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: He gets hungry at you always have to keep beef jerky.

556
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: Always road map of californ And in a case he

557
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: gets lost camera, two leaders of Coca Cola, a BB

558
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 2: gun and for popping the balloons. And I've seen some

559
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 2: reports he brings up a six pack of beer.

560
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: Did he bring a pea bottle or is he just

561
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: gonna down it?

562
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 2: Just let it flow, just like airplants to do that.

563
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: Elizabeth, you're just like walking out to your car from

564
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: your house. Yeah, you is this horrible contrat.

565
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 2: The BB gun that he's bringing, that's for popping the woons.

566
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: Oh, he wasn't going to take pot shots as people

567
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: is it flying.

568
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 2: That's his way to get down shoot out the balloons

569
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 2: keeping him up.

570
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: And he said he had a two liter coke and a.

571
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: Six pack of beer in case he gets thirsty.

572
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: This is he's got a lot of car stuff.

573
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: All strapped up there. Yeah. So if you're wondering what

574
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 2: a man in a lawn chair and weather balloons need

575
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 2: to file a flight plan with the FAA, you would

576
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 2: be right.

577
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: Did he have like I'm fixated on the logistics. Did

578
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: he have like saddle bags on the side all this

579
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: stuff or was it all just in his lap.

580
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 2: Well kind of. Some of it's in his lap, some

581
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 2: of it's strapped to things, some of it's like balanced precariously. Okay, yeah,

582
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 2: so yeah, so picture, you know, lawn chair Larry. He

583
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 2: knows he needs to file a flight plan with the FAA.

584
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: Oh god, could you imagine contacting the FA and being like.

585
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: He's got a radio to do that, right, But his

586
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 2: plan first is this is a test flighter. He's going

587
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 2: to go up. He's Behinath right after half an hour,

588
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 2: so be like, oh, if this goes well, then release.

589
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: Me, okay.

590
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: But instead, Larry, you know, he's climbs into his homemade rig.

591
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: He instructs his friends to like let the teathers go

592
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: so he can kind of go up and just have

593
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: the Bonneville hold them to the ground. And when he

594
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: gives the signal and they let go, the rope just

595
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 2: snaps real quick.

596
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: Oh boy, oh yeah, he goes up, it.

597
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 2: Goes taut and then there's no slack. Right, he has

598
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 2: not planned this well and it just snaps. Sounds like

599
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 2: a gunshot going off, right.

600
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: Oh no.

601
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

602
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: Instead, so the teathers are released and he's going up now,

603
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: and Larry doesn't fall out, right, but his glasses fall

604
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 2: off his face, so he can't see very well. But

605
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: he's planned for this. He knows he's got to have backups.

606
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 2: He brings back up glasses, right, so he loses other

607
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: equipment though, the stuff he doesn't have backups for. It's

608
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: too late to worry about any of that. Now he's flying.

609
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

610
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: So Carol and she's got a daughter, right, and her

611
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: young daughter's watching this all, and she excitedly is waving

612
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: at Larry. He's drifting up into the sky. As Carol's mother,

613
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: the grandmother of this child, remembers it, because she also

614
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: spoke to George Plimpton, she said, and I quote she

615
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: kept waving until Larry in his chair were barely a

616
00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 2: dot in the sky.

617
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

618
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: Well, also, by the way, so when that inspiration won,

619
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: it jerked forward and he lost his glasses. Luckily he

620
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: didn't lose his altitude controller, the BB gun because that

621
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: would Yeah. Because it's also, as they told you, that's

622
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: his plan to get back down too far. So he

623
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: believes that by very carefully popping the balloons, you can

624
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 2: safely land and pilot his flying machine like steer it

625
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: as well. Sure solid plan.

626
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: If you ask me, I hope he brought plenty of

627
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: extra bebies.

628
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 2: No, I get the idea. You may not agree that's

629
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: a solid plan to shoot out the balloon.

630
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: Really, I mean it's pretty clever.

631
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: Shooting out balloons that are keeping you in the sky.

632
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: How could that feel bad? Well, anyway, that doesn't matter,

633
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: because the unthinkable soon happens. Larry's plan is. You know,

634
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: he's got all these prevailing winds blowing him around. They

635
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: start blowing him to the northwest, and he's worried about

636
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: going out over the Pacific Ocean. Then they change and

637
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: they blow him northeast and he goes inland towards the

638
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: Mohabi Desert. If all goes well, he's hoping he can

639
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: make it to the Rocky Mountains. That's his goal. Wait,

640
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: it would take a few days, he calculated. Thus the

641
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: twelve of the six pack of beer and the two gallons,

642
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: and the.

643
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: Beach and the jerked feet.

644
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: Obviously, none of that happens because his homemade flying machine,

645
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: the inspiration one, is still climbing high and fast and

646
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: has not yet found a lateral motion. So what's he

647
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: doing now, Elizabeth, Well, we know what he does because

648
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: there's a recording of Larry's Cbee radio chatter with Carol.

649
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: They recorded it, he recorded it, yes, no, So Carol

650
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 2: tells him, what, Larry, come down. You've got to come down.

651
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: You can't see come down.

652
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: Right, because this is when he first loses the glasses. Yeah,

653
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: And Larry tells her. He's like, don't worry, I got

654
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,959
Speaker 2: backup glasses. And he's trying to keep Carol calm, right,

655
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 2: And I got to say, I love that he's up there,

656
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: way up high, and she's on the ground. He's trying

657
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: to keep her calm. Yeah. Yeah, anyway, Larry's like, everything's

658
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 2: a okay, notify the proper authorities and et cetera. No, Carol,

659
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: she's a realist, right. She's worried about planes, which she

660
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: can hear on the sleeper radio right, and she's like,

661
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: oh God, keep talking, Larry. We've got airplanes. They can't

662
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: see you. You're heading for the ocean. You're going to

663
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 2: have to come down soon. And Larry's kind of our

664
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: with her that he's fine. He's not headed towards the ocean.

665
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: The wind's blowing him inland. He's like, but notify lax anyway, Yes, over.

666
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: You've got lax, I've got Santa Amma, Santa Monica, Yeah,

667
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: all these era. Yeah.

668
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: So when Larry reaches two thousand feet up, Carol tells him, Larry,

669
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: everybody down here says to cut him and get down. Now,

670
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: cut your balloons and come down, now, come down please.

671
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: Now that moves Larry, but it's not enough. He's waiting

672
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: twenty years for this, Elizabeth, he ain't stopping now. God,

673
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: George play, I wasn't going to hassle her because no

674
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: waigh in heck. You know, after all this my life,

675
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: the money we'd sunk into this thing, and just to

676
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: come down, no weigh in heck. I was just gonna

677
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: have to have a good time up there now, Elizabeth says,

678
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: the money weed sunk into this thing. He means Carol,

679
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: his fiance had a feeling three thousand of her own

680
00:31:54,960 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: dollars into his helium, gas and dollars, and she bought

681
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: the parachute.

682
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: Also, so eighty nineteen eighty two dollars.

683
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: Also, Larry can fly like he's dreamed to fly.

684
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: It was three hundred dollars, eight dollars, eight to nine hundred.

685
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: They say two numbers different times. Yeah, So she goes

686
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: by the way, he says. He tells David Letterman that

687
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 2: she went heavily into debt so he could realize his dream.

688
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: So if you asked me, she's the real hero. Yeah. Anyway,

689
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 2: Larry does exactly as he said. He enjoys the view

690
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: no longer support his dream. As lawn chair Larry remembers.

691
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: Like, if you have a dream, that's on you to

692
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: make it happen totally this leech yes, making her well, But.

693
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: I mean that's not he didn't put in anything. There's

694
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: no partnership, as I'm saying, like she could put in

695
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: some to help his dream, but he didn't do jack.

696
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: He looked like a perfectly healthy man to me. I

697
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: mean he could move a shovel, you know, he could

698
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: turn the.

699
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: Ring and they're shooting and popping, ye floating, Come.

700
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 2: On, lawn chair Larry, though, he tells George Plimp and

701
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: what it was like once he was up there climbing

702
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: two thousand and three thousand, four thousand feet five thousand.

703
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: The higher he said, and I quote the higher I went,

704
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: the more I could see. And it was awesome sitting

705
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: in this little chair and you know, look, wow, man,

706
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: unreal I could see the orange funnels of the Queen Mary.

707
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: I could see that big seaplane of Howard uses the

708
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: Spruce Goose with the two commercial tugs alongside. Then higher

709
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: up the oil tanks of the naval station like little dots.

710
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: Catalina Island in the distance. The sea was blue and opaque.

711
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: I could look up the coast like forever. At one

712
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: point I caught sight of a little private plane below me.

713
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: I could hear the b of its propeller, the only

714
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: sound I could hear. I had this camera, but I

715
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: didn't take any pictures. This was something personal. I wanted

716
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: only the memory of it that was vivid enough.

717
00:33:53,680 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: It is wild. My perception has shifted so hard when

718
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: I find out that he put zero dollars into this,

719
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: and then he made this poor woman who has a

720
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: child child, so she's.

721
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: Got bills to pay with her mother. By the way,

722
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 2: the house belongs to her mother, so she lives with

723
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: her mother with her small child. She's got this deadbeat

724
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: boyfriend who was.

725
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: I mean, if it was just him and it was

726
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: for that right, If it's just him and that's he

727
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: builds it, he pays for it. He floats up there,

728
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,479
Speaker 1: all right, Go go ahead, your little goofball, have your fun.

729
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: But no, this booger reader has her paying for the Well.

730
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: It's crazy because when you're when you're recounting from his mouth,

731
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: like what he said, yes, Like in my mind, I

732
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 1: flash back and forth between like knowing that she paid

733
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: for it and thinking that he paid for it, and

734
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: it's it's like two different stories.

735
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: Totally nuts. So at this point you'll be happy to

736
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: hear Larry develops a problem because he's getting up where

737
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: the air is thin and.

738
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: Is problem.

739
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: He likes that thick air, the air that's like thicker, right,

740
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: we all do a thick mixing heavy a lot of

741
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: nitrogen in that.

742
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 3: Now.

743
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: I think you know this, but just to remind you,

744
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: the higher you go, also the colder it gets.

745
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's true too.

746
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: So as Larry put it, when I got to fifteen

747
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 2: thousand feet, the air was getting thin enough of the ride,

748
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 2: I thought I better go in too, descend and level off.

749
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: My cruising altitude was supposed to be eight or nine

750
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: thousand feet to take me over the Angelus National Forests,

751
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 2: past Mount Wilson and out toward Mahabi. I figured I

752
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: need to pop maybe seven of the balloons.

753
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: Wait, what is he wearing, by the way.

754
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: Oh, just like July Day clothing, like he's wondering. Oh

755
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 2: my god, yeah, feet that's three miles, three miles aa

756
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: oh yeah, three mile high stadiums.

757
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: When people like are hiking, they bring oxygen kit. He's past, yeah,

758
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: like mountain climbers.

759
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: He's at sixteen thousand, right off the earth, and he

760
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: drifts into the traffic lanes of LAX. Two pilots, one

761
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: for Delta and one for TWA taking off from Lax.

762
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: They both spot him, and they call into the radio tower. Yeah,

763
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: the TWA pilot, he says, this is a TWA two

764
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: thirty one level at sixteen thousand feet. We have a

765
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 2: man in a chair touched to balloons in our ten

766
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 2: o'clock position range of five miles.

767
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: So somehow, oh my god, I wish they could hear

768
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: their conversation before they got all right, and that I.

769
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: Want to hear the whole thing. Somehow, the winds blow

770
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 2: Larry out of the path of these planes that are

771
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 2: taking off and landing at LAX, and he SI has

772
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 2: Producer D pointed out, still three miles up without any

773
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 2: real sense of control other than I'll shoot out the balloons. Yeah,

774
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: so let's take a little break on Liza. When we

775
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: get back, I'll tell you whether or not he shoots

776
00:36:46,000 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 2: out the balloons. And we're back, Elizabeth arn So my

777
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 2: man Larry Old launch hair. Larry. He was smart. He

778
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 2: brought a radio with him, as we pointed out earlier,

779
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: so he tries to reach out to the air traffic

780
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 2: controllers let them know, hey, I might be on your radar.

781
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 2: And he uses also a Cbee radio to reach out

782
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 2: to anyone on the ground who might be able to.

783
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: Help him break one about a couple.

784
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: Oh for real, a guy in Orange County was like

785
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: part of a CBE club. Because this is nineteen eighty two.

786
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: He later told a reporter, this guy broke into our

787
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 2: channel with a may Day. May Day. He said he

788
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 2: had shot up like an elevator to sixteen thousand feet,

789
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: was getting numb before he started to shooting out some

790
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: of his balloons. Now, remember his plan to get down

791
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 2: is shoot out the balloon. So obviously he does start

792
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: to shoot out balloon. And that would have been a

793
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: good idea, right that's been as George Plimpton called it,

794
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: an inspired idea. I would say it was just like

795
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: you know, a good idea. But anyway, as he recalls it, Larry,

796
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: we did all these tests. I wasn't even sure a

797
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 2: babie shot would work because the weather balloon's rubber. It's

798
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 2: fairly thick, but you can pop it like with a pin.

799
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: Now three miles up, starting to freeze, darting to lose

800
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: consciousness do the lack of oxygen, Larry decides it's tige

801
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: time to test his theory and shoot some balloons. So

802
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: so I took out the air pistol, pointed up and

803
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 2: I went pow pow pow, pow pow pow pow, and

804
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 2: the balloons made these lovely little bangs, like a muffled pups.

805
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: And then they fell down and dangled below my chair,

806
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: and I put the gun in my lap to check

807
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: the altimeter. Then this gust of wind came up and

808
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: blew me sideways. Remember he has no seatbelt, nothing to

809
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: keep him inside this launch chair. Well, Larry, he didn't

810
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: fall out, but unlucky for him, his BB gun does

811
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 2: fall out. No, the chair tilted forward and the gun

812
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 2: fell out of my lap. So watches his BB gun fall, Elizabeth.

813
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 2: He watches it fall until it disappears, and he says

814
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 2: it was a terrifying sight. I thought, oh, you've done

815
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 2: it now, why didn't you tie it on? I had

816
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 2: backups for most everything. I even had backup peebies in

817
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 2: case I ran out, backups the two cylinders for the gun.

818
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: It never dawned on me that i'd actually lose the

819
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 2: gun itself.

820
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god.

821
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: I've been there in this moment. That's why I'm laughing

822
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: so darkly. No, in the moment of like, I did

823
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 2: all this preparation except for the one thing that actually mattered.

824
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, wait, you did a long.

825
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: But unthink of what happens as lawn chair Larry recalls

826
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: quote to this day. I can see it falling, getting

827
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 2: smaller and smaller down towards the houses three miles down.

828
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 2: I thought, I hope there's no one standing down.

829
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: There, right, just like you're watching TV, that comes through

830
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: the roof.

831
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it kills your neighbor in the.

832
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: Movie, killed by an air.

833
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 2: Gun dropped from who knows where?

834
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: Did someone shoot him? Know it fell from this.

835
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 2: Guy you're seeing the movie Bridge on the River Kway. Yes,

836
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 2: there's this scene where there's a British commando officer, and

837
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 2: he tells William Holden's character, there's always the unexpected, isn't there.

838
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: I always think about that. I give that mind in

839
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: my mind all times. So at this point, he's about

840
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: three miles off the surfa of the Earth and his

841
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: plan is progressing badly. The air was very thin. I

842
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: was breathing very deeply for air, about fifteen seconds away

843
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: from hauling myself out of the chair and just dropping

844
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 2: down and hoping I could use the parachute properly, hoping

845
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 2: I could use the parachute properly. Now, the FA would

846
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: later estimate if lawn chair Larry he didn't act when

847
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 2: he did, he would have been carried all the way

848
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 2: up to about fifty thousand feet, where he would have

849
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 2: been turned into a human popsicle. Fifty Yeah. Yeah, it

850
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 2: was cold up there where I was. The temperature about

851
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 2: two miles up is about five to ten degrees. So

852
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: my toes were going numb.

853
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a huge flip from let's imagine it.

854
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: He was.

855
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: He was flip flops, board shorts, T shirt, Garfield T shirt.

856
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: Garfeld T shirt. Of course it is so at this

857
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 2: point I don't think he's going to break into the

858
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 2: six pack of beer he brought or the two liters

859
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: of coke. Right, he's probably not chewing on the beef jerky.

860
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: He's just hoping, like Helly gets back down to earth. Yeah,

861
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 2: So the FAA and the emergency services at this point

862
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: they get involved now that he's up like threatening the

863
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: you know, flights of planes, right, like, who is this bozo?

864
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 2: And they get I'm on the radio and he's like,

865
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: I'm not poso, and then they talk about what risks

866
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: he posed to himself and others, and Larry's fully aware

867
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: of this, and he's like, you know, he's not too

868
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 2: proud to ask anyone for help, but he doesn't really

869
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 2: want everyone to think of him as a dumbass right

870
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: too late. So local emergency services they contact him on

871
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: the radio, and their conversation also recorded, Elizabeth. I listened

872
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 2: to it, Yes, four posterity. You can hear the person

873
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: from like emergency rescue services go what airport did you

874
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: take off from? And then there's no answer, and he

875
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: repeats himself, what airport did you take off from? He

876
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 2: asked this like four times. After a long wait, Larry's like,

877
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 2: my point of departure was sixteen thirty three West seventh Street,

878
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 2: San Pedro, as in Carol's mother's house near Long Beach.

879
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: So the guy from Emergency Services like, say again the

880
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 2: name of the airport? Could you please report? So he's

881
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: like on a radio. The wind's blowing. He's he's using

882
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 2: a handelt, right, so it's super loud. It's not like

883
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 2: the quiet airport cockpit.

884
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 4: Right.

885
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: So this point else he doesn't want to answered. He

886
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: doesn't want to say that he's doing this because he

887
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: knows what he's doing is illegal. Right, Because if you're

888
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 2: wondering where the crime is, Elizabeth, this is totally So

889
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 2: Larry reluctantly confesses to Emergency Services radio operator. This one

890
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: from ground control. The difficulty is, this is an unauthorized

891
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 2: balloon launch, and I know I'm interfering with general airspace.

892
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure my ground crew has alerted the proper authorities,

893
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 2: but could you just call them and tell them? I'm okay.

894
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 2: So something the FAA breaks in on the same frequency, right.

895
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 2: You got to hear this, It's it's amazing way they're

896
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: focused on finding out if Larry has a flight plan,

897
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: if you can control a flight plane, there's none He's

898
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: just drifting in the wind. And they quickly established this, right.

899
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: So then the FA guy's like, okay, well what color

900
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: are the weather balloons?

901
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: Right?

902
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 2: And Larry's like, oh, the balloons are Beijing color. I'm

903
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: in a bright blue sky. They should be highly visible

904
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 2: because they're trying to like cue pilots into being able

905
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 2: to see. Because he goes into like an engine, the

906
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 2: whole thing's going down, right, So anyway, what about the size?

907
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: The guy's asking it from the FAA. It's like, how

908
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 2: big are these things? Like approximately seven feet in diameter?

909
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 2: I probably have a thirty five left over. Now the

910
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: FA guy, you got to hear him, his voice cracks

911
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: like a teenager. He's like, did you just say you

912
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 2: have a cluster of thirty five balloons? And he's like flabbergasted. Right,

913
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 2: And then this is like it's madness to this man,

914
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: is what he's describing his madness. So he answers like

915
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 2: all the FAS questions, and Larry says, over, just tell

916
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 2: Carol that I love her and I'm doing fine. Please

917
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 2: do over right, and they're just like I would love

918
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: to see their faces looking at each other in like

919
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: that control room. What are you kidding me with this.

920
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 2: So at this point he's directly over Long Beach Airport,

921
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: like directly over Long Beach Airport, still about ten thousand

922
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 2: feet up right. The only good news for Old launch

923
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 2: Hair Larry since he's lost his BB gun is that,

924
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 2: you know, he's starting to lose some altitude. Yeah, so

925
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: there's more good news because the high altitude weather balloons

926
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: that were filled and tied off by amateurs, his ground

927
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 2: crew who did an amateur job, which means the weather

928
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 2: balloons are starting to leak helium. That's why he's losing heights, right,

929
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: So that's good. Normally that would be terrible, but this

930
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: is like awesome guys, way to do it, rappy job,

931
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: save Old Larry's life. So his homemade flying machine, the

932
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 2: inspiration one starts to descend. Right. It was close to noon.

933
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 2: I'd been up oh about an hour and a half,

934
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 2: and as I got nearer the ground, I could hear dogs, barking, automobiles, horns,

935
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: even voices, you know, in a calm, casual conversation on

936
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: cheer Larry, he's enjoyed a mixed bit of luck, why,

937
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 2: one might say, so far, but do you think his

938
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: good luck can hold out and he can successfully land

939
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 2: on the ground without hurting himself. I don't Larry in

940
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 2: his lawn chair flying machine. Can he go up to

941
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 2: sixteen thousand feet and get back down, Elizabeth? Right now,

942
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 2: he's about two thousand feet off the ground.

943
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: At this point, you know he may bubble his way

944
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 1: into a safe landing.

945
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: He whips out his pocket knife. Shout out to pocket knife,

946
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 2: and he slashes the ties that hold the five gallon

947
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 2: buckets of water. Right, so he starts dropping those like

948
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 2: an amateur bomber. Now Larry keeps going down. He's not

949
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: safely down intersection, just like hoping not to hit cars.

950
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: I guess in houses. Since the landing is the most

951
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 2: important part of any flight, Elizabeth, I'd like to take

952
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: you there. I'd like you to close your eyes. I

953
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: like you to picture it. It's a warm afternoon morning

954
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 2: in July, and you, Elizabeth, are sitting pool side in

955
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: your backyard, stretched out on a chase lounge chair, enjoying

956
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 2: some quiet time as you read your morning paper. You're

957
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: about halfway through a column about President Reagan's recent comments

958
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 2: on the Soviets when you notice something out of the

959
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 2: corner of your eye. Are those balloons, and is that

960
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: a man in a lawn chair beneath the balloons. You

961
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: don't set your paper down, but you keep looking at

962
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: the strange sight in the sky. The man in the

963
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 2: lawnchair is about one thousand feet above you and coming

964
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 2: down rather fast. You cannot look away. Your dog begins

965
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 2: to bark as the man in the lawnchair grows closer

966
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: and closer. He's now down to about five hundred feet.

967
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 2: A moment later, he's about maybe four hundred feet. Then

968
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: you guess three hundred feet. He's had it right for

969
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: your backyard. He's planning on landing in your pool. You wonder,

970
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 2: the man in the lawnchair, with the clusters of weather

971
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 2: balloons tied above him, is now just about two hundred

972
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: feet off the ground. You can see his face, you

973
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: can see yours. He looks surprisingly calm. You look perplexed.

974
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 2: You tell your dog to stop barking. He complies. Then

975
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: you and your dog watch the man in the lawnchair

976
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: kareem and sort of scrape across your roofline, and then

977
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 2: the ropes attached to the lawn chair to the weather

978
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: balloons kind of wraps against the power lines above your backyard.

979
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: The ropes, though, don't electrify the aluminum chair. You estimate

980
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: that if you would have come in just a little

981
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 2: bit higher, maybe like eight feet or so, you would

982
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: have seen a barbecued Darra double in your backyard. You

983
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: still don't move, though. You struggle to believe this is

984
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 2: really happening, that you really just saw this. You stare

985
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: at the man in the lawnchair dangling from the power lines.

986
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 2: He stares back at you this strange silence. It lasts

987
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 2: for about in fifteen seconds. Then you hear yourself acts

988
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: out loud, Hey, do you need any help? Lawn chair.

989
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: Larry is so happy to be back safely on earth,

990
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: just hanging out above about six feet off the ground

991
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 2: that he started at grins and says, would you mind

992
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: Elizabeth crash lands the earth. The ropes kit, as they said,

993
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 2: entangled in the power lines, and as you saw happen

994
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 2: that blacks out the power in the Long Beach neighborhood,

995
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: lapd Though they use the weather balloons to locate Larry.

996
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 2: Then they come and rescue him from your backyard. Now

997
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 2: his flight obviously big news. National news. National papers cover

998
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: the story. The next day of the local Alley Times.

999
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 2: They have a political cartoonist who draws a picture of

1000
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 2: President Ronald Reagan in a lawn chair with balloons and

1001
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: a caption like another nut in California. Yes, Now, as

1002
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: for his punishments, they know you are always interested in that.

1003
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 2: With these crimes, a regional safety inspector for the FAA

1004
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 2: claim that we know he broke some part of the

1005
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 2: Federal Aviation Act, and as soon as we decide which

1006
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 2: part it is, some type of charge will be filed.

1007
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: He had a pilot's license, we'd suspend that, but he

1008
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 2: doesn't the book find something in here for this, this nonsensory.

1009
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 2: Eventually the FA did. They charged Larry with violating controlled airspace,

1010
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: flying without a balloon license, and operating a non airworthy craft.

1011
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 2: I be charged of that before. Now they came with

1012
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: a fifteen hundred dollars fine. Now, I know, okay, I

1013
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 2: didn't give you the before, but you love numbers. Nineteen

1014
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 2: eighty two, Elizabeth. That would have been five thousand dollars

1015
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: forty nine hundred.

1016
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: Dollars, and I'm sure the one who has to.

1017
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 2: Pay Carol's gonna get a hit. Yeah, not too anyway,

1018
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 2: launch a hair, Larry would have held the altitude record

1019
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 2: for flying a helium filled cluster balloon aircraft, except he

1020
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 2: couldn't qualify because he wasn't a licensed pilot. Now, however,

1021
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 2: he did get applause when he did Letterman, So yes, okay.

1022
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 2: The other guest that same night, James Brown, that must

1023
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 2: have been a show.

1024
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: Oh the Green Room.

1025
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: The Dave was on point that night. I watched the

1026
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 2: episode and you got to see Launchair. Larry explain to

1027
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 2: Dave how I call it American ingenuity. I had confidence

1028
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 2: myself and the craft. I really know what I was doing.

1029
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 2: And now Dave Letterman had like peak, like snarky Dave

1030
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 2: letters when you took off there, you actually lifted off prematurely.

1031
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 2: Now the audience enjoys that. And then when Larry says

1032
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 2: he had his complete control of his craft right, and

1033
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 2: then Dave's asked launcher Larry, why a launch Air, and

1034
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: Larry's like, why not? Then actually He's like, American ingenuity,

1035
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 2: That's Larry's answer, and he brags it went through the

1036
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 2: Larry torture test and I knew it could fulfill my dream.

1037
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 2: So lawn chair Larry. Also he did the tonight show

1038
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 2: The Real Deal the o G. Johnny Casey. Yeah so,

1039
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 2: and he also got to be a spokes bottle and

1040
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 2: a TIMEX ad. Now you know, I wear time X

1041
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 2: watches and once it takes a lick in, it keeps

1042
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 2: on tickets exactly. So I was like, man, he got

1043
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: a TIMEX on it, as he.

1044
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: Had a TIMEX on when he went up.

1045
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 2: I don't even know if they just want to say

1046
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 2: that he did. Lastly, we give the final word to

1047
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 2: old lawn chair Larry to speak to his legacy of

1048
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: this amateur flight, Like what did he make of his

1049
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: successful misadventure in the sky? He told Letterman he achieved

1050
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 2: inner piece. Yeah. Years later a reporter asked him what

1051
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 2: he like, like what made him want to fly in

1052
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 2: a lawn chair specifically and balloons, and Larry, of course,

1053
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: being earnest, he says, man, can't just sit around. It

1054
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: was something I had to do. I had this dream

1055
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: for twenty years and if I hadn't done it, I

1056
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 2: would have ended up in the funny Farm. Since I

1057
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 2: was thirteen years old, I've dreamed of going up in

1058
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 2: the clear blue sky in a weather balloon. By the

1059
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 2: grace of God, I fulfilled my dream. But I wouldn't

1060
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 2: do this again for anything. Now, after you attain your

1061
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: life's dream of Elizabeth, what is there left to do

1062
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: after that?

1063
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, he could have just gone

1064
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: up to like he could have gone up to Sonoma

1065
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: and gotten in a balloon. Yeah, hot air ballooned it.

1066
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 2: That was lan chair Larry tells Plimpton. Life seems a

1067
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: little empty because I always had this thing to look

1068
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 2: forward to, to strive for and dream about. You know.

1069
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 2: It got me through the Army and Vietnam and just

1070
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: dream it about it, you know, one of these days.

1071
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 2: So there you go, Elizabeth, a short but successful flight

1072
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 2: of airspace pioneer. Lawn Chair l what's our ridiculous takeaway here?

1073
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: What do you have a life's dream? I was thinking

1074
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: about it. I don't have like a life's dream.

1075
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, to see the end of capitalism. It's not really

1076
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: a very specific dream, but that's my dream. I went

1077
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Speaker 2: out last capitalism. Okay, so it makes me want to

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Speaker 2: live a long long time. But so that's what I'm

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Speaker 2: doing it for.

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Speaker 1: All right, This sounds good. Yeah, I just too, No,

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Speaker 1: I don't have one. And I was just thinking, like

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Speaker 1: as I was as he kept talking about it. I

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Speaker 1: don't think I have like a specific life's dream of

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Speaker 1: like an action that I need to perform.

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Speaker 2: Or Yeah, you don't, like there's nothing, nothing you ever

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Speaker 2: wanted to see? Nothing everyone to do, nothing, everyone to

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Speaker 2: feel or experience. It's like something to'd be like if

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Speaker 2: I don't do this, I'd feel like I missed out.

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Speaker 1: No, I've done a lot of this stuff I wanted.

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Speaker 2: So you've already achieved a lot of your life dreams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know if they would be I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I think zaren. I think I need to

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Speaker 1: really sit and think on that.

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Speaker 2: Well, Elizabeth, good news is my ridiculous takeaway. Thanks for asking. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: whatever lawn chairs Larry closing quote. It tells me that

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Speaker 2: you've got to always be dreaming of something bigger, right,

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Speaker 2: something grand, or something more difficult or impossible to pull off.

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Speaker 2: That is how you stay fully alive. So I think

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Speaker 2: you need to be fully alive. You need to get

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Speaker 2: yourself a dream.

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Speaker 1: Girl, I do. I'm not fully alive. I'm like fifty

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Speaker 1: to fifty over here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I got something may help you out? Yeah, a talkback?

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Speaker 2: Sure can? How about this one? From August twenty seventh.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, I went get.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Elizabeth and Zeron. I just got done listening to

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Speaker 4: the newest episode with the football Mayonnaise clone, and I

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Speaker 4: had such a visceral reaction through that knowledge that it

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Speaker 4: was enough for my boss at my work to send

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Speaker 4: me home for being sick. Thanks for for a day off,

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Speaker 4: all right, love you guys, catulator respect.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I'm glad it played in your favorite

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Speaker 1: I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad to help you miss it day work as well.

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Speaker 2: You didn't mess you up.

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Speaker 2: you can do a talkback like we just heard. So

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Speaker 2: you go to iHeart app, download it, record one and

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