1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,599 Speaker 1: It is time right now for the tire rack play 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: of the day. 3 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 2: I'm just going to take one play for the Cowboys 4 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: to snap out of this and get back in it. 5 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Tount his block. It is picked up in the fifteen 6 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: and loosen the end zone and mar Soon Niland will 7 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: cover it for a touchdown. Well, you're actual one play there, it. 8 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: Was then that was the one play the Cowboys had 9 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 2: and the one highlight they had all night. That was 10 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: courtesy of the Cowboys Radio Network. That is your tire 11 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: rackt play of the Day. 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I did think it was funny last 17 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 2: night when Drakeman was like, yeah, you know, Jerry Jones 18 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: talking about making a trade, But I don't know that 19 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 2: there's a trade that's going to be available. 20 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: It's going to help this team right now, It's just there. 21 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: They're not you get a pass rusher. Here's what I 22 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: don't get. 23 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 3: Jordan Schultzer reports that Mazzi Smith is a healthy, healthy, 24 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 3: inactive in preparation for potentially being on the trade block 25 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: right their former first round pick out of Michigan. And 26 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 3: I'm thinking to myself, like, wasn't it before the season 27 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 3: all it was all about getting Kenny Clark because they 28 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: couldn't stop the run. And that's why they got rid 29 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 3: of Micah Parsons because they want to pay him. And 30 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 3: you know that that whole narrative happened. Now you're getting 31 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 3: rid of a guy he drafted to it essentially clog 32 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 3: up the middle and stopped the run. 33 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: That even makes any sense. 34 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: They've also been linked to Trey Hendrickson, so they didn't 35 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: want to pay mic before the year. 36 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 4: But you're going to go trade for a pass rusher. 37 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 4: You got one of the premier pass rushers in the league, 38 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 4: and you go go trade for another one. 39 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 3: They would almost be paying Trey Hendrickson half of what 40 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 3: mic is making, so. 41 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 4: Well, they would probably get half of the time from 42 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 4: from from Trey. 43 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: Hey, no, I'm just saying how much old her? 44 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 5: Why? 45 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 4: Because he's white, that's part of it. But they black 46 00:01:59,160 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 4: don't crack. 47 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 5: But I'm just saying I'm just giving it to everybody today. Yes, 48 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 5: I'm saying how much older is he? 49 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 4: Then, Michael Parsons with your white as that that is 50 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 4: not what I'm talking about. 51 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: He's just older, That's all I'm saying. 52 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: Can we run with that as one of the headlines 53 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: on social media? Birst Can we just say LeVar Arrington 54 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: says Trey Hendrickson's inferior because he's white. 55 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: Just say that on it and see, uh see how 56 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: that plays. 57 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 4: Let's let's watch how that gets out and when it's 58 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 4: taken literally put out there out of contact. 59 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: Let's see the blowback. 60 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: I get on into some views a shoulder bump to Trandrickson, so. 61 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: Random people bumping me out in public? What well that 62 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: thing got like ten point six million views. 63 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's a dope little clip. Bruh, I 64 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 4: know it is. 65 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 3: This is what I don't underst I don't understand anything anymore. 66 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: I really don't. I don't understand anything. 67 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: So I think with that, I'll say this. 68 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 4: You got this tall, y'all good looking, strapping man who 69 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 4: hi hipp Rob Stone, who's doing an amazing drop and 70 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 4: teaser for for the show. And then you got little 71 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,279 Speaker 4: man like you got a little man in the background 72 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 4: who everybody knows and respects about the way anybody who 73 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 4: ever meets mark Ingram is like totally enamored by him 74 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 4: and loves his personality, loves hanging with him. And so 75 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 4: once you look at it in context, you seem like 76 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 4: making fun and doing things in the background, and it 77 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 4: is a trending dance, like that dance is trending. He 78 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 4: was smart for doing it because it hit the algorithm 79 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 4: of all these people doing that dance, like the football 80 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 4: players are doing it when they score touchdowns. People are 81 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 4: doing it randomly, like it's just it's it's the trend 82 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 4: that's the algorithm. You gotta pull it up to see it. 83 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 4: I've not studied it enough to know how to do 84 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 4: it. It's not in my spare time. 85 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: I didn't know that was a trending dance. It is 86 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: just having sex with the air dang. 87 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: I mean it is a gyration of the hips and 88 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: its like you know, but. 89 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 4: That's smart because that's what that's what people are paying 90 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 4: attention to. So then it just catches the algorithm on 91 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 4: people doing that dance, that trending dance, and people were 92 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 4: watching it and they like went through the whole process. 93 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 4: I said, like, oh, look at this dude, like he 94 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 4: just bumped him. Oh wow, that's the TV show, you know, 95 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 4: the one that they do before the games on Saturday, 96 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 4: like boom, they're putting all these dots together, which made 97 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 4: Jos's trending video way better than anybody else's trending video 98 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 4: unless it was like Shaquille O'Neill or somebody that's famous 99 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 4: doing the dance. 100 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: I mean as somebody who's a regular watcher and supporter 101 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: of Big newon Kickoff because I'm a loyal friend. Uh, 102 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: this is not the first time that they've messed with Robstone, 103 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: you know, and. 104 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: Now everybody's just sort of catching on to it. It's 105 00:04:59,160 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: just a. 106 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 4: Cool thing about knowing something that they've always done. But 107 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 4: you get an opportunity, like you explained it perfectly earlier. 108 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 4: Jona's like you get a guy that you don't think 109 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 4: really jokes around, you know, or or just like really serious, 110 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 4: like oh coming up next on the should at all, like, 111 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 4: oh for them to win today, here are the keys 112 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 4: to the game. And then they start going into all 113 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 4: of these details and it gets real, real detailed from 114 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 4: the details, and then it's like, oh wait, he's actually 115 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 4: a person, like he actually jokes around or he can 116 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 4: make you laugh like. 117 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: You're talking about Rob Stone. No, he's talking about you. Actually, Yeah, 118 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: Brady's a sloppy it's like the rest of us. But 119 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: nobody would know that scumbag to him. 120 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 4: Nobody would know that he's like a prankster and a 121 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 4: jokester with what he does. 122 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 3: When you know that, I try to mess with far 123 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: every time I get a chance, just get a rise up. 124 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: But that's the beauty of it. Like people don't know that. 125 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 4: So it's like when you get an opportunity to have 126 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 4: those moments, it hits way harder. 127 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: It just hits hard, if you know what I mean. 128 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 4: We get it on this again, ah, because it's just 129 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 4: you know, you should have got pivot over. 130 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: Pivoted from the racial comment he made a mountain tree Hendrickson. 131 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: That's what it was. 132 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 4: Well, it took a black man to make sure that 133 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 4: it went over ten million views, Like it took that 134 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 4: that flavor, that spice, that that added spice to what 135 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 4: was going on, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, 136 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 4: that's all. Yeah, speaking of if you want to throw 137 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 4: some spice on it, why not throw some Louisiana Hot 138 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 4: Sauce on that over ten million views. You know what, 139 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 4: it goes perfectly, great balance of peppers, vinegar and salt. 140 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: You could put it on ten million viewed videos. You 141 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: could put it on wings, nachos, burgers. It tastes good 142 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: on all of it. If you asked me that Tailgate 143 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: Food hit it with that bold, hand crafted flavor of 144 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: the original Louisiana hot sauce. That's Louisiana Hot about you 145 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: some We're hungry, We're hungry for more. Throw some hot 146 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: sauce on it. 147 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: So Chase Brown had those comments about the defense for 148 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals, speaking of Trey Hendrickson. 149 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: The white Guy, Levars Barrier, and Zach Taylor. 150 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: The head coach, spoke about the difference in approaches from 151 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: one Jamar Chase, who said, I'm not going to come 152 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: out after anybody. 153 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: I don't want them questioning what the f I'm. 154 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: Doing, and Chase Brown, who basically called out the defense specifically. 155 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: Here was the Bengals head coach yesterday. 156 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 6: If you're not doing everything you can on your own, 157 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 6: you know, and I've pointed that out with Chase. You know, 158 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 6: there's two big plays that we could have done better 159 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 6: that would have led to points, And so I think 160 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 6: I liked Jamar a. 161 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: Little bit better. 162 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 6: I can tell Jamar is frustrated, but he didn't want 163 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 6: guys coming at him if he's had a poor performance 164 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 6: or something that he was disappointed in. So I trust 165 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 6: that that's a one time thing and what we'll learn 166 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 6: from that. That's not how we want to react. And 167 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 6: one of our best players, one of our highest character players, 168 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 6: I think, in a moment's frustration, said that, And I 169 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 6: don't expect that time again. 170 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: Wouldn't you say that? 171 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: Chase Brown doing that publicly and the way that game 172 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 2: played out, even though everybody acknowledges that the offense is fine, 173 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: but the fact that that happened is a bad look 174 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: for Zach Taylor. 175 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: And I just wonder. 176 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: If, for whatever reason, this continues down the path that 177 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: it's going and it doesn't appear like the defense is 178 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: going to get any better and they're just going to 179 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: be floundering and missing the playoffs again. I mean, is 180 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 2: Zach Taylor's job safe, because it feels like if that 181 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: job opens up, that's got to be maybe. 182 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: The most coveted job in the league. With Joe Burrow 183 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: as your quarterback. 184 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: I mean, so it's kind of a weird spot to 185 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: be in because, yeah, Joe Burrows hasn't been healthy for 186 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: Zach Taylor, but this season and that the way that 187 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 2: played out on Sunday, I don't know who else you 188 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: point the blame at other than Zach Taylor or who 189 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: else will be the fall guy. 190 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: Rather, I kind of listen to that, and I don't. 191 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 3: To me, it's not about Chase Brown. It's not about 192 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: his reaction. I think both LaVar and I would agree 193 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: like you, when you have an one side of the 194 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 3: ball that performs the way they have the last two weeks, 195 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 3: when you look at what's happened to that side of 196 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 3: the ball, Joe Burrow being out again, I mean, it 197 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 3: feels like it's a broken record if you're a Bengals 198 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 3: player who's been there with Joe Burrow with how much 199 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 3: time he's missed. And what's frustrating about it is he 200 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 3: is such a difference maker. 201 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: Like it could be one thing if he was like 202 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: kind of average, but he's not. 203 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 3: I mean, he's he's that talented of a player, So 204 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: it's even more frustrating that they can't keep him healthy. 205 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: He can't be out there. It's always something. 206 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 3: And then after you go through a period of time 207 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: where you don't feel like there's any hope. 208 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: Maybe with Jake Browning, you get Joe Flaccowan, and you've got. 209 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: A guy who's playing at as high of a levels 210 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 3: of Bengals quarterback maybe has and that includes, by the way, 211 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow. 212 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: If you look at what he's done in the. 213 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: Last two weeks, I mean, I thought that saw an 214 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 3: interesting stat Not to get off on a tangent, but 215 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 3: the sack percentage for Joe Flacco is like half of. 216 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: That that it has been with Burrow. 217 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 3: I mean, he against the ball at quicker, he's able 218 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 3: to kind of move that the change when not taking 219 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 3: as many negative plays. Not saying that they're gonna pick 220 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 3: Joe Flack over Joe Burrow by any means, just saying 221 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 3: it's even changed the dynamics of how the offensive line 222 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 3: is viewed because they're able to protect him better given 223 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 3: him getting the football out of his hand quicker. But 224 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 3: the general point is the frustration is understandable. What Pete 225 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 3: said yesterday Pete Prisco when he joined us, was that 226 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 3: you keep changing these coordinators and you keep kind of 227 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 3: getting the same results, you're not really maximizing it, and 228 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: eventually they're going to start pointing to the head coach. 229 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 3: And it's unfortunate because I think if Joe Burrow's healthy 230 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 3: for the entirety of his time with Zach Taylor, we're 231 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: probably never having this conversation because they're a perennial playoff team, 232 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 3: but because he hasn't been. If you look at it, 233 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 3: started looking at the coaching record, you start becoming concern 234 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 3: questioning it. And it's just the unfortunate reality of what 235 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 3: this has been. It's been a team that has gone 236 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 3: churned through coordinators. I mean some in the case of 237 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: Brian Callahan going to take a another head coaching job, 238 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 3: but you know, Louis and Rumo, he moves on. Cults 239 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 3: are looking looking good. Al Golden comes in, can't. I mean, 240 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: you're the You're the worst defense in the league and 241 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 3: in any category yards points, So I don't. I don't 242 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 3: look at this and I sit there and say, this 243 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 3: is purely on what Zach Taylor's done. It's been really 244 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: unfortunate how it's all worked out for him. But eventually 245 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 3: someone's gonna start pointing the finger at you, and they 246 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 3: just say, maybe we need a change to find someone 247 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 3: who can figure this out, you know, figure out how 248 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 3: to find more consistency from our defense or a little improvement. Uh, 249 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 3: you figure out a way of keeping Joe Burrow healthy. 250 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 3: You know, they're just they're they're looking for answers, and 251 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: eventually they start to point at the head coach. 252 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 4: I'm going to go back to Chase Brown for a 253 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 4: moment here and maybe put it in a little bit 254 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 4: of context, because I happened to have made multiples and 255 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 4: the mentality of a mommultiple that has a identical twin 256 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 4: brother that also made it into the National Football League. 257 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 4: Let's just say the mentality of a multiple is way 258 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 4: different than just a regular person. The ones that are 259 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 4: high achieving, over achieving multiples, their relationship dynamics are, I mean, 260 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 4: even with their other siblings, is staunchly different than somebody 261 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 4: who's just been by themselves or is a singular child. 262 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 4: So when you look at a Chase Brown calling out 263 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 4: something that's very obvious. He didn't call anybody out by name, 264 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 4: but what he ultimately was doing was he was voicing 265 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 4: his opinion. It was an obvious opinion. It was not 266 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 4: an opinion where like to me, if I was comparing 267 00:12:59,440 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 4: this to. 268 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: What Tua did, Tua took it. 269 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 4: In a lane where it was very very easy to 270 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 4: pick away from it and indict other players that are 271 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 4: on that roster. For Chase Brown to hold himself and 272 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 4: the rest of the team, because even though it can 273 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 4: be perceived that he was talking about the defense finishing 274 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 4: and making sure they need to do what they need 275 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 4: to do, saying that saying that we need at the 276 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 4: end of the day, we need to finish. If I'm 277 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 4: Zach Taylor, I don't choose sides. The level of accountability 278 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 4: that a twin has a multiple has they never been 279 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 4: by themselves ever, not one moment in their lives have 280 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 4: they ever been together even pre life they just well 281 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 4: maybe the minutes between them being born. But you know, 282 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 4: you're talking about a matter of minutes, like my twins 283 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 4: are ten minutes apart. But yeah, right, So the level 284 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: of accountability is different for guys like that. And again, 285 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 4: both of them are in the league, so you know, 286 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 4: you're more likely to get struck by lightning or win 287 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 4: the lottery than get drafted or play in the National 288 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 4: Football League. And two of them are in the league, 289 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 4: so they're high achieving people. So I think when you 290 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 4: have it in proper context, that these guys are like 291 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 4: competing at the highest of high levels to go from 292 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 4: where they came from to where they are. 293 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: Now in the league. 294 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 4: They're not taking anything for granted. And I think that 295 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 4: sometimes it should be said, like, let's not take this 296 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 4: for granted, just us having the opportunity to be here 297 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 4: and put these uniforms on and play the game. And 298 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 4: if I think, if it's put in the proper context, 299 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 4: like that's part of knowing who your personnel is. Like, 300 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,239 Speaker 4: if I'm Zach Taylor, I say it like he's a multiple, 301 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 4: you know what that dude had to go through in 302 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 4: order to make it to where he is right now. 303 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: I have to go through. 304 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 4: Tell us far I don't know being a multiple, Well, 305 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 4: he's making it from being a Canadian Canadian kid, So. 306 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I mean, he's probably still pissed 307 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: off about the Blue Jays losang. 308 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's the possibility you gotta finish probably 309 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 4: addicted to maple syrup. I mean, if you think that 310 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 4: their maple syrup is is definitely the lick right out, 311 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 4: just put that joint right in the tree, and just 312 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 4: go ahead and plug it, and and and and get 313 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 4: a hold of it. Put it right on your pancakes 314 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 4: right there. 315 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 5: You used to Canadian women, you know, I mean in 316 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 5: the States, there's these one uh group that's called cave 317 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 5: Verdi's cave Verdians who anyway, uh look that up. 318 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, bruh Uh. It's a very very unique. 319 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 5: Uh. 320 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: You're gonna go down. You're gonna go down. Levar's you know, 321 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: rabbit hole. 322 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 4: Who mess up the rhythm in a in a good way. 323 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 4: I just I just think that these are the moments 324 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 4: where when I talk about having a healthy culture, understanding 325 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 4: who your. 326 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: Guys are, how they're wired, why they do things, don't don't. 327 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 4: It one by an indict one by saying I side 328 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 4: with this one, like it's like, why would you take 329 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 4: this one? Jamar Chase and said, I liked his approach, 330 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 4: and I hope this one over here doesn't take that approach. 331 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: Again and falls back. While I can understand what he's. 332 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 4: Saying, manage and minimize like exposure or anything like that. 333 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 4: You've ultimately made it a choice between the two players, 334 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 4: and it didn't necessarily need to be that you can 335 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 4: make sense of what Chase Brown said because it's very true. 336 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 4: Finish out, finish like, let's finish out. That is not 337 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 4: an indictment if it is the obvious truth. Finish out 338 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 4: like the kid is a competitor. Like he's right. Maybe 339 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 4: we can keep it a little bit more internal with 340 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 4: what he said, but he's right, like we all got 341 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 4: to hold ourselves a little bit more accountable and we're 342 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 4: still in this thing to make this thing work. 343 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: Boom, moving on, Jamar. 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He's out indefinitely, 380 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 2: and the question afterwards was about, you know, why was 381 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 2: he in the game at that point, and you know, 382 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 2: should he have been taken out of the game earlier 383 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 2: with it being such a wipeout and risking his health, 384 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. Well, Dan Quinn, the Commander's head coach, 385 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 2: UH spoke yesterday and accepted responsibility for that decision. 386 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 8: I know many of you have been asking about the 387 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 8: thought process of Jayden being in the game in that situation. 388 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 8: I get that I've been thinking about honestly NonStop too. 389 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 8: And you know, for me, the answer is, man, I 390 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 8: missed it, but I would you know, I'll fill you 391 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 8: it on my thought process. At the start of the 392 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 8: fourth Core, I guess it was probably like twelve and 393 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 8: a half minutes left in the game, and that was 394 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 8: gonna be the last drive for a couple of guys 395 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 8: Jayden and Zach and Debo and LT and so we're 396 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 8: gonna have any read run plays and meaning no carries, 397 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 8: you know, for the quarterback on a run. And honestly, man, 398 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 8: that's where I missed it. Of course he could scramble. 399 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 8: It's Jaden, It's what he's special at. And that is 400 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 8: one hundred percent that's on me. 401 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 4: So that's what he's specialized scrambling. Well, yeah, to me, 402 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 4: that's the bigger that's the bigger point of all it is. 403 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 4: You don't need to take the blame for a player 404 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 4: that got injured doing what they're special ad doing what 405 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 4: am I and I get the conventional wisdom of saying, Okay, 406 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 4: the game's out of reach, like pull your starters out. 407 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 4: I get that, but he didn't. He played his starters 408 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 4: like it's always going to be an easy point of 409 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 4: reference and contention if something like this happens. Like, but 410 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 4: I mean, the man's a coach, he's got to coach 411 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 4: his team. 412 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 3: What So, So let me ask you this because this 413 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 3: was kind of what like went through my head watching it. 414 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 3: And then even though as you talked a little bit 415 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 3: about yesterday, we didn't have time to fully discuss just discuss, 416 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 3: but we talk about taking out your starters. 417 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: You can only take out so many like we do this. 418 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 3: In preseason two, or react like oh, yeah, the backups 419 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 3: are all in. Well, okay, your roster size is a 420 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 3: bit bigger then, but once you get to the regular season, like, dude, 421 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 3: you dress forty six. 422 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: You can't pull everyone. 423 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 3: There's not some sort of whole change, like all the 424 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 3: backups are in, Like you don't dress that many guys. 425 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 3: So I do wonder as a head coach when you 426 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 3: look at where Washington's been, where they've struggled offensively, and 427 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 3: some people had said, well, maybe there's the thought of 428 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 3: trying to get them into a rhythm, or maybe there's 429 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: the thought of just trying to get him one decent series, 430 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 3: get a touchdown, trying to get something going out of 431 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 3: that game because they played so poorly. But I also wonder, 432 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 3: like in the locker room, you got other starters are 433 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: going to sit in there and have to battle and 434 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 3: have to finish. 435 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: Out the game. 436 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, huh, Like, how do you view it, like if 437 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 3: your starter comes out, how does your mindset change? Because now, 438 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 3: as a defender, like there's probably not many chances, like 439 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 3: many opportunities where you're sitting there thinking to yourself, I 440 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,239 Speaker 3: need to protect myself to make sure I get out 441 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 3: of this game healthy, because clearly We're throwing in the 442 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 3: white towel, but I'm still out here. 443 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 4: You're told to fight for sixty minutes. You're told to 444 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 4: lock in and dial in. If we were to look 445 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 4: around the league we talked about last week prior to 446 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 4: this one, how how not can non competitive? These games 447 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 4: were and teams were getting beat by multiple possessions. How 448 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 4: many of those quarterbacks finished the game? You know, it's 449 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 4: so easy to stop and flash a big light on, 450 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 4: oh my gosh, this coach left their. 451 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: Player in, he ends up getting hurt. What are you doing? 452 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: You should have pulled him out? Like, look around the league. 453 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 4: How many quarterbacks that had two possession games, two possession leads, 454 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 4: you know, deficits that they had to overcome, finished out 455 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 4: the game. 456 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: I don't think we need to even. 457 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 4: Overthink it, the idea of saying, oh, you should have 458 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 4: pulled him, you should have pulled him, Like it's season, 459 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 4: we're in season. 460 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: He's playing the game and he hasn't played that much. 461 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: I don't even care if he hasn't. 462 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 4: If anything, if he hasn't played that much, I'm be like, Okay, 463 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,239 Speaker 4: maybe he's tired. Let me give him, let me give 464 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 4: him a play count. Because he could be tired, let 465 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 4: me inch him back in. But if he's up and 466 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 4: running and he's full go, why would you, as a 467 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 4: coach even give that too much thought of We're going 468 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 4: from whistle to whistle for four quarters. It's the regular season, 469 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 4: it's not preseason. So why do I have to be scrutinized. 470 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 4: I mean, you get why scrutinized. It's the profession, it's 471 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 4: part of it. But you don't have You didn't have 472 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 4: anybody else coming out and rage, Oh my gosh, they 473 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 4: had the starter in at the end of the game 474 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 4: and they weren't. They clearly had no chance of winning 475 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 4: the game. 476 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 2: Well, remember it was Carson Wentz last week who defended 477 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 2: the Vikings and defended Kevin O'Connell and them and said, no, 478 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: they did not. This is not on them. I wanted 479 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: to stay in the game. I knew what the risk 480 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: that comes along with this. It was my choice to 481 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 2: stay in. I was in pain and basically defended the 482 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 2: organization because there were some people who are like, well, man, 483 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 2: he's clearly in pain. Why is he still out there? 484 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: And then he had up having season ending surgery, you know, 485 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: the a few days later, the part that bugs me 486 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: about this, and I'm not surprised to. 487 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 4: Say what My next point was, I hope you say 488 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 4: what I think it is good? Well I say, and 489 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 4: say it with your chest. Well, yeah, it's not going 490 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 4: to be what I'm pretty sure. 491 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 2: I don't like that dan Quinn basically caved to the 492 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: soft narrative that was put out because of Jaden Daniel's injury. Like, 493 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: I don't like the fact that dan Quinn had to 494 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 2: come out. And I'm not surprised because I know he's 495 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 2: a stand up guy and he's a good dude. But 496 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: the fact that he came out and accepted responsibility for 497 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 2: a quarterback getting injured in an NFL game, why because 498 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 2: people were asking, well, what is he still doing in there? Well, 499 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: he hasn't played that much. They're trying to get some 500 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 2: sort of a rhythm on offense. I know it's a blowout, 501 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 2: but he's got to get some reps and he's got 502 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: to he's got to get back into the swing of 503 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: things somehow. Marshaun Lattimore LaVar brought this up yesterday. He 504 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 2: tore his ac. I mean, is that dan Quinn's fault too? 505 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: Like it is, are guys getting injured in the fourth 506 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 2: quarter of games that are out of reach. Is that 507 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: the coach's fault because they get injured or is that 508 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 2: just the fact that it's football. It's it's basic sanction violence, 509 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 2: and you're gonna fall and land awkwardly from time to 510 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 2: time and bad things are going to happen. The fact 511 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: that dan Quinn had to come out and apologize and 512 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 2: accept response or take responsibility, I think it's a bad 513 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 2: look and I think it kind of presents him as 514 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 2: a Hey, if you uh, if you talk loud enough 515 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 2: and you uh and and you make enough noise, he's 516 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 2: going to cave to the narratives out there and have 517 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 2: to speak on it out. 518 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 4: Can I ask you guys one serious question? Absolutely not okay, 519 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 4: never mind rushin, Okay. Why is there no scrutiny on 520 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,719 Speaker 4: the decision making of Jaydon Daniels in this situation the 521 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 4: game is out of reach. Yeah, you clearly cannot win 522 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 4: the game. 523 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 5: That's that's the narrative that that is driving that outrage 524 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 5: in the backlash of the decision. 525 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 2: Making of the head coach, because if he doesn't play hard, 526 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 2: then he gets the Cam Newton treatment and he never 527 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: lives down the fashion. 528 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 5: So if he throws the ball away, I'm if he 529 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 5: if he throws the ball away or hands the ball off, 530 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 5: because if I recall my recollection from what dan Quinn said, 531 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 5: it was usually he hands the ball off in this 532 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 5: situation or throws it to the flat. 533 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 4: So if it's throwing it to the flat, he can 534 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 4: easily throw it away. It's garbage time. Hand the ball off. 535 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 4: I don't care if you lose five yards running hand 536 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 4: the hand the ball off. 537 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,479 Speaker 3: I get it, like I understand what you're saying, and 538 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 3: I think that comes with playing more and like time 539 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 3: in the League of maturity, where there's a saying like 540 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 3: live to play the next down, because you will not 541 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 3: survive if you keep trying to play outside the pocket 542 00:26:58,880 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 3: for so many plays. 543 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: Eventually you'll get hurt, either via a hit here, either via. 544 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 3: Just unfortunate unluck, you know, not being lucky enough to 545 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 3: be able to get down or side, whatever the case is. 546 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: Bad things happen outside the pocket. 547 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 3: In the pocket, enough bad things happen, but at least 548 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 3: you're protected, so defenders know and they have to let 549 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 3: up to some degree, and they have to hit you 550 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 3: a certain way to some you know, so it changes, 551 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 3: but eventually that comes. The hard thing about what you're saying, 552 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 3: LeVar is you don't want to take out that competitiveness 553 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 3: in him. And again, he hasn't played that much, so 554 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 3: there's an element two of him wanting to get back 555 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 3: out there and play the way he's accustomed to. So 556 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 3: it's it's complicated. You could see it from both sides. 557 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 3: But I do hate the fact. 558 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 4: Upset at I don't and I'm not. I'm not attacking 559 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 4: Jaydon Daniels for it. All I'm saying is is if 560 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 4: it was clearly important enough for Jaydeon Daniels to scramble 561 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 4: and pull the ball down in that minute in his 562 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 4: mind to create what he was going to create, what 563 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 4: do people have a problem for, Like, I haven't heard 564 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 4: one person really sit there and be like, why do 565 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 4: you pull the ball down and start scrambling. It's not 566 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 4: that it's his fault, it's you don't have to come 567 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 4: up with justification. 568 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: He was doing his job. It's fault he was doing it. 569 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 3: It's just football. It's what I said yesterday. It's it's football. 570 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 3: We can dissect this whole decision from Dan Quinn, from 571 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 3: Jane Daniels. It's football. Correct injuries happen. Correct injuries are 572 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 3: going to happen, and that's unfortunate that it happened. It 573 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 3: was grotesque, It was upsetting to watch it take place. 574 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 3: It's your franchise, guy. 575 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: I get it. 576 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 4: But if that, like we said, you said Marshaun Lattimore, 577 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 4: if that was any other player on that field doesn't 578 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 4: get this type of attention, does it get this type 579 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 4: of vitriol coming back from it? 580 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: If that's the case, and then you'll wonder why the 581 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: culture is. 582 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 4: And then you heard Dak Prescott touching on it because 583 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 4: they're one of those types of franchises that that's the 584 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 4: way the media covers. Like people may not understand this 585 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 4: because they may be so far removed from the old days, 586 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 4: but the media was actually supposed to be your conduit 587 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 4: to market, advertise and promote the product. These guys used 588 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 4: to go out after games, smoke jacks together, drink beers together. 589 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 4: Sometimes you drank too much, I'll drop you off. Hey, 590 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 4: get say hi to the wife by first name. 591 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:38,959 Speaker 1: Get them in. 592 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 5: Maybe it's the local police officer. He drops both of 593 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 5: you off. You guys are at the local pub having 594 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 5: some pops after the freaking game and y'all had a relationship. 595 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,959 Speaker 1: There was an unwritten. 596 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 4: Rule that the relationship between the media and the players 597 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 4: and the organizations was imperative to the health of the 598 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 4: of the game. Not to tear them down, not to 599 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 4: look for these angles that are so polarizing and just 600 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 4: so sensationalized that you're actually destroying. You're destroying the reputation 601 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 4: of the coach, You're destroying the reputation of the organization. 602 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: You to apologize, that's not what this is for. You 603 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: know what they should have been saying. 604 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 5: This is a team that was one game away from 605 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 5: getting to the super Bowl the year before. The Clearly 606 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 5: the approach that dan Quinn has brought to a team 607 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 5: that has struggled and suffered for many many moons before 608 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 5: he got here, it's clearly something that's working. Focus in on. 609 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 4: Okay, it's unfortunate that he got hurt, But dan Quinn, 610 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 4: this new ownership group, they seemingly brought a new energy 611 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 4: that has rejuvenated the organization and the franchise. Why are 612 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 4: you slipping back into your old ways of how to 613 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 4: cover and how to do these things? And then now 614 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 4: it turns into an adversarial relationship. Between the media and 615 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 4: the organization. Why do you think damn Quinn did it 616 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 4: get you have to put that much apologize. Well, because 617 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 4: it's the nation's capital. That's the way they bro They 618 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 4: like the only the only media market that's worse on handling. Well, 619 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 4: it could be Philly too, but but New York is 620 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 4: is unforgiving and that's just But you go into it 621 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 4: understanding that's what you signed up for. The Washington DC media, 622 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 4: I'm telling you, they handle it like it's a White 623 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 4: House address. 624 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: I've seen it firsthand. I lived in it, I was 625 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: a part of it. 626 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 5: They covered the Washington football team like they covered the 627 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 5: president and apolitics. Up to the podium next, please heal 628 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 5: Hello everyone, Hello, Hello, good evening to you all. 629 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 3: He's the chair of the Talking Smack Hitstick Talking Committee. 630 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 4: I would certainly never go into the details of the 631 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 4: exchanges nor verbal contact that I've made with my opponents, 632 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 4: but I just like to say, respectfully, they played a 633 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 4: wonderful game. They you know, for us, we can stand 634 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 4: to get better. I mean, how amazing were they? Like 635 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 4: you just have to be unassuming give the other team 636 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 4: credit for what it is that they did it. 637 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: And even if they didn't do it. Still give them credit. 638 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 4: Underplay under under deliver yourselves and keep it moving. And 639 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 4: it's so generic and it's so bland, but it's necessary 640 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 4: because these cats look for these weird ass angles to 641 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 4: be able to present the team. 642 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: Can I be honest with you. 643 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 3: One of the most disheartening things as a competitor, though, 644 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 3: is having to play out a game where you know 645 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 3: you cannot win. Like you get to a point where 646 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 3: you're like, we're not able to score that many times 647 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 3: with this amount of time left, and you know that, 648 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 3: unfortunately was the position. 649 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: That they were in. It's it's terrible to be playing 650 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: out of the game that way, right. 651 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 3: It's like you know, like like you're watching this this 652 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 3: death come at the at the end, you know it's coming. 653 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 3: You can't stop it. There's nothing you can do about it. 654 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 3: And like I remember we played Baltimore on Monday night 655 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 3: football and we got to a point where we you know, 656 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 3: we weren't gonna able to come back. There was just 657 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 3: like two little time left. We're down by a couple 658 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 3: scores or a few scores, and our play caller at 659 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 3: the time had called in a play that you would 660 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 3: kind of run more like a two minute situation and 661 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 3: I'll never forget. I was like, I think I even 662 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 3: told Josh Cribs this. I was like, please, Josh, just 663 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 3: get down. I was like, just don't you know, because 664 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 3: Josh Cribs was the type that whether he was a 665 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 3: special teams returner or as a receiver, he was so 666 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 3: good to yards after contact, yards after the cash, just 667 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 3: trying to get, you know, something more out of it. 668 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 3: And I think I said in the huddles, I just 669 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 3: get down whatever, just get down. Do not try to 670 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 3: extend this. And sure enough, like it was one of 671 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 3: those kind of like throw the slant kind of pitching around. 672 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 5: That where he got like put to sleep. Now, I 673 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 5: was like a kick return. I think it wasn't. There 674 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 5: was another one. 675 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 3: This wasn't a kick return. This was on This was 676 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 3: on Monday, the football RISUS Baltimore. I think I just 677 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 3: remember like the whole play plan out and I was like, man, like, 678 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 3: this is worst case scenario. 679 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: Because he gets injured. You lose one of your best players. 680 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, who knows, you know, how 681 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 3: severe it is, what's happening, and like it wasn't necessary. 682 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 3: We could have just ran the damn ball. And I 683 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 3: kept thinking in my head, I should just check to 684 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 3: a run, like there's there's no point in that case. 685 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 3: But the problem is as a coach, like you know, 686 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 3: they're at a tough spot too, like if they basically 687 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 3: a knowledge defeat, regardless of what point it's at, he's 688 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 3: gonna be up at that podium talking about something else 689 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 3: that's going to involve like his job and all of that. 690 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 4: The angles, that's the angles. Adversarial cover, that's the angle. 691 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: And when you lose, it doesn't matter. 692 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 3: At the end of the day, there's always gonna be 693 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 3: something they're gonna they're gonna try to target and talk 694 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 3: to you to pick at. 695 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: It's always gonna be about how you lost. Everything else. 696 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 3: I can't tell you how many times we won and 697 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 3: I came back like, yeah, but I should have done 698 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 3: this or we should have done this, and the media 699 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 3: never asked about it. They don't ask about those like 700 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 3: critical mistakes. You actually made it a win, it's only 701 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 3: in a loss. And so that's the hard part about 702 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 3: even this whole, this whole conversation is dan Quinn was 703 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 3: gonna have to answer to something if it wasn't Jaden 704 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 3: Daniel's injury, it'd be something else. Maybe it would have 705 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 3: been a lot of Moore's injury. Maybe they would have 706 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 3: you know, pivoted to him. Maybe it would have been 707 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,919 Speaker 3: something else that they did or didn't do. But that's 708 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 3: ultimately too. The other issue with all this is that's 709 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 3: what you sign up for as a head coach. You know, 710 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 3: when you lose, it's there's always gonna be a critical 711 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 3: angle and no matter what, nothing you have done is 712 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 3: gonna be the right decision because everyone's looking with twenty 713 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 3: twenty vision, because they've got the ability to look at 714 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 3: a hindsight and judge every decision you made. And the 715 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 3: unfortunate reality to football to life is that's not how 716 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 3: decisions are made. 717 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 1: You know. 718 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 3: Obviously dan Quinn wouldn't have made the decision if he 719 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 3: knew he was gonna get hurt. 720 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: That's easy to say. 721 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 3: Now, That's that's part of my issue with all this 722 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 3: is like it's an easy position to be in the 723 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 3: media and then have to continually like Harp on this 724 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 3: point when it's a tough position for dan Quinn to 725 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 3: be in the second he pulls out Jane Daniels, they're 726 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 3: admitting defeat the second he pulls out Jane Daniels and 727 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 3: someone else gets hurt. 728 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: It's like, well, why don't you pull that guy out? Why? 729 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 3: Why don't you pull all the guys out? You know what, 730 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 3: why don't you just ask the end of the game 731 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 3: with ten minutes left in the fourth quarter? You know, 732 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 3: it's like, it's like you're in such a no win 733 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 3: position as a head coach, and that and that in 734 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 3: that particular scenario you can't win. 735 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 4: You shouldn't have to tell your kid if there is 736 00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 4: a fire fireplace that's lit, don't stick your hand in 737 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 4: the fireplace. 738 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: You'll burn your hand. 739 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 4: You shouldn't have to tell your kids things that common 740 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 4: sense wise, you just don't do. You stay away from it. 741 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 4: If you're at the end of a game and you're 742 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 4: getting blown out. This is something that you learn in 743 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 4: pee wee league. This is something that if you didn't 744 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 4: play pee wee league, you learn a high school level. 745 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 4: If you played in college, you know in the college level, 746 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 4: if the game is out of reach, do not subject 747 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 4: yourself to injury. And if you do, because you want 748 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 4: to be considered the effort guy. Air quotes, you are 749 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 4: the effort guy who gives it there all on every 750 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 4: single play. There's nothing wrong with you being that type 751 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 4: of player. There is nothing wrong with it. But you 752 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 4: should not have to tell a player in this scenario. 753 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 4: Make sure you're careful with what you do. That's not quitting, 754 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 4: that's not being a lack of a competitor. That's being 755 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 4: wise about the scenario. It was a handoff or a pass, 756 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 4: there's no reason for you to try to extend to 757 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 4: play none, and that should be the If you're going 758 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 4: to focus on that one play, why are you scrambling 759 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 4: with a game that's out of reach. So you're basically 760 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 4: saying you need a handler. We're I mean, we make 761 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 4: these bold claims that, well, quarterbacks are the most intelligent 762 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 4: beings on the football field. If you're so intelligent, then 763 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 4: you understand and you know in this scenario. In fact, 764 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 4: let's be clear, look at the way they call these 765 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 4: games anymore. On any play, I don't care if it's 766 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 4: the first play or the last play, your thought process. 767 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: Should be, don't get hit. 768 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 4: The game structured for you to be protected and not 769 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 4: be hurt by hits like the one Jaydon Daniels took 770 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 4: that maybe ended his season. Don't take those types of hits, 771 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 4: not now, not ever, not any time period, and that's 772 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:19,720 Speaker 4: the end of the story. 773 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 1: Something that he does very well. He did it. 774 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 4: He pulled the ball down, started moving, moving out of 775 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 4: the pocket, and he got caught. He got caught. Done, 776 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 4: case closed. You don't have to sit there and act 777 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 4: like a grown ass man has to be babysat by 778 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 4: his goddang head coach. That man is coaching the game, 779 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 4: and he has other players that he's got to worry 780 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 4: about as well. Okay, it's your franchise quarterback. 781 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 5: I get that, no shade, but I'm just saying, handing 782 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 5: the freaking ball off case closed, throw throw the incomplete 783 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 5: throw the flat you didn't get in the yard. 784 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: So what he is incomplete? So what what mess with 785 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: your QB are? So what? So? 786 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 9: What? 787 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: Like routine play shouldn't even be a conversation. 788 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 4: And then you're right, Jonas, he should not have come 789 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 4: out and apologized for it. He said he ran it 790 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 4: in his head. Okay, great, you called the play fifty times. 791 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 4: He said, what fifty times out of fifty times you 792 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 4: run this play? It's a handoff four throw? Come on, man, 793 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 4: throw to the flat, which is quick throw to the flat. 794 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 4: Which is quick, same old commanders. I mean, that's what 795 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 4: it sounds like. At least they trying, they trying to 796 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,280 Speaker 4: have them vibes. 797 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 7: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 798 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 7: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 799 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 7: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific. 800 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 2: It's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio, 801 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 2: LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knocks. Jonas coming up in 802 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 2: about twenty minutes from now, We're gonna have another edition 803 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 2: of The Leftovers right here on FSR, but right now 804 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 2: the ones we go to our man, Dean Blandino, Fox Sports, 805 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 2: NFL College Football Rules Analyst. Now you're doing You can 806 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 2: get him on X if you dare at Dean Blandino, Dean, Dean, 807 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 2: what's happening now you're doing? 808 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 4: Dean? 809 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 9: How you guys going your mother? Dean? Hey, don't talk 810 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 9: about my mother? Why? 811 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,919 Speaker 4: Why is that always part of the greeting, like, Hey, 812 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 4: how's your mother? 813 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: How's your mom? Makes me? 814 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 9: Pillow? Will Set not the guy that hit the game 815 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 9: winning home run in the World Series given id either? 816 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 9: Not that Will Smith? Right? 817 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, keep my Mama's name out to mouth. 818 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 2: Dean, was there was there anything from this weekend NFL 819 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 2: or college? Uh that that sort of irked you. Maybe 820 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,280 Speaker 2: a player or a call. 821 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,359 Speaker 1: Or a rule they went one way or the other 822 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 1: that you look at and go not not a big 823 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: fan of that anything. Jump out to you. 824 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 9: Well, Brady's back right, I'm here, brother, thank you. We 825 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 9: missed you last week. Miss you know you you you 826 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 9: were there. I believe, I mean I saw you. 827 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 3: Like bullying, you know, everyone everyone who takes that approach, 828 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 3: I think didn't understand. It was all trying to distract 829 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 3: Rob so you wouldn't see Mark in the background. 830 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 9: Got it, got it? 831 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 1: Got it? 832 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,879 Speaker 3: He gets very He always want like passed the buck 833 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 3: to market. It's like, now we gotta let Mark do 834 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 3: his thing and you just be a professional and do 835 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 3: your job. But like then Rob gets you know, he 836 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 3: just stops what he's doing. It does just like get 837 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 3: the camera to look at Mark. It's like, it's funnier 838 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 3: if you just do your job and then let Mark dance. 839 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 9: In the background, and then let Mark. But yeah, no, 840 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,959 Speaker 9: I get it. I get Rob. Robs used to doing 841 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 9: like big events, like Rob does bowling, like Rob like 842 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 9: that's you. 843 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 3: You know, God, do you really want me to get 844 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 3: let me get off on a quick tangent here on 845 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 3: that on that moment. So he comes down to South 846 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 3: Florida to do an event. I think it was up 847 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 3: there like del It was up in del Ray or 848 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 3: Boker somewhere, and he goes, oh, you should bring the family. 849 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 3: I said, okay, So we make signs. You know, we 850 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 3: got like ham Bone, Rob Stone, and who do you 851 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 3: think you are? I am like, we have all these 852 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 3: like for Pete and Pete Webber. We have all these signs. 853 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,959 Speaker 3: And we get there and our girls are excited. They're 854 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,839 Speaker 3: like yelling and stuff, and everyone kept having the calm 855 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 3: to keep being quiet. Apparently it's like golf, like they 856 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 3: don't like people yelling while they're bowling. And in fact, 857 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 3: we were down more towards like the middle to end 858 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 3: of the lane and we were holding the signs up 859 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,240 Speaker 3: because but because the lighting, apparently one of the bowlers 860 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 3: thought there was like a glare, so they walked over 861 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 3: to our family, but like, can you please tell your 862 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 3: kids to put the signs down? So at this point, 863 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, why did Rob invite us to this? It's 864 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 3: like it's not a family friendly event. They don't want 865 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 3: us to hold signs up for him, for any of 866 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 3: the players. Like, the whole thing was a disaster. So 867 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 3: that was my rob Stone Bowling Star. I'll never go 868 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 3: back to another bowling event again after that. 869 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 9: I didn't realize that that bowlers were that because you know, 870 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 9: my my brother bowls. He's a big bowler, and he 871 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 9: bowled at two ninety eight. One time threw eleven strikes 872 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 9: to brow and the whole bowling alley stopped because it 873 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 9: obviously hit the twelve one year Bowl three hundred game 874 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 9: and he got an eight, and it was like, and 875 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 9: this is in Long Island, like you know, you remember 876 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 9: the Ryder Cup, Like those are my people, Like we 877 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 9: just everybody was heckling and screaming, and so I didn't 878 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,479 Speaker 9: realize bowling was was that that type of that type 879 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 9: of dean. 880 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: I actually did the opposite. 881 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 2: I did eight and a spare and then eleven straight 882 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 2: strikes for a two ninety I swear to god, yeah, 883 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:49,240 Speaker 2: true story. 884 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: Yeah never came again. He long, Oh yeah, sir. 885 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 9: The Caleb downs play right, like that's targeting. It's targeting, 886 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 9: and this we've kind of like sometimes it's it's frustrating 887 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 9: for me because I work with the college and the 888 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 9: replay officials and all that, and I think sometimes we 889 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,839 Speaker 9: go overboard and making something that isn't targeting targeting, Like 890 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 9: you know, the running back and the linebacker and they 891 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 9: meet in the hole and they both lower their heads 892 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 9: and then we end up throwing the linebacker out because 893 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 9: he dropped his head. But this is like everybody in 894 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 9: the world down leaves his feet, he launches, it's borderline late. 895 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 9: He hits him in the head neck area, and it's like, 896 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 9: we're finding a way to make that not targeting. And 897 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,799 Speaker 9: that was one where if you if you want to 898 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 9: put that in a in a textbook for what is targeting, 899 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,840 Speaker 9: what it looks like. That was it, and that should 900 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,280 Speaker 9: have been should have been confirmed. 901 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,800 Speaker 3: What I found interesting about is I looked at it 902 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,800 Speaker 3: and I thought, oh, that's that's targeting. He's gonna be ejected. 903 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 3: I'll miss the first half of next week's game. And 904 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 3: then they took it off, but they kept the penalty, 905 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 3: and Clatt's like advocating for this, well, you know, the 906 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 3: intent and all the stuff. I'm like, dude, he was 907 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,280 Speaker 3: defenseless like that, that's not like subjective in this case 908 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 3: with the circumstances of that particular play, but he kind 909 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 3: of applauded it, and I thought, like, this is not 910 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 3: the right direction. 911 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 9: We're not that's not the play. And I agree with 912 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 9: Joel on there are plays where because of for circumstances, 913 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,240 Speaker 9: that it should be fifteen and not an ejection. 914 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 1: Right, that was not one. That was not one. 915 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,800 Speaker 3: He was dead wrong. And I don't know why he 916 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 3: supported that. But again he'll be calling some more high 917 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,399 Speaker 3: state games later on. Maybe that's something to do with it. 918 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 3: You Know what's funny is this segment has become one 919 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 3: in which we now get people who reach out via 920 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 3: social media with questions. And I think one of the 921 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 3: questions and one of the frustrations for NFL fans Dean, 922 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 3: is like what does a. 923 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 1: Hip drop tackle? 924 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 3: Because we feel like there's a loose interpretation, that's a 925 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,319 Speaker 3: ridiculous call. Well, but again, like, could you help us 926 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 3: define it, help us understand what the officials are singing, 927 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 3: how you guys go about looking for that? 928 00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 9: Yeah, well, it's the definition of a hip drop tackle 929 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 9: is you you wrap up the ball carrier, you leave 930 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 9: your feet, you basically drop the in the rule book 931 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 9: it says unweight, which is like, I don't know, that's 932 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 9: just stupid. It's just you drop to the ground and 933 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 9: you you land on the legs or trap the legs 934 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 9: of the runner, like that's that's the hip drop. And 935 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 9: we've seen, you know, we've seen some pretty you know, 936 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 9: I think it was I don't know if it was 937 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 9: now going on on on three years. It was in 938 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,360 Speaker 9: the playoff game the running Backs of the Cowboys. He 939 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 9: he boke, his leg collared, you know that that was 940 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 9: you know, it's a dangerous when it's when it is 941 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 9: an egregious flagrant on it, it can lead to pretty 942 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:48,840 Speaker 9: significant injuries. But this this Frankie Lulu thing was like 943 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,359 Speaker 9: crazy because I thought last night somebody texting me, Hey, 944 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 9: they suspended Frankielul. What did he do? It was the 945 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 9: repeated violations of the hip drop. And then I watched 946 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 9: the play from the game, something like what the one 947 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 9: like that, that's not what he's momentum taking him like 948 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:06,880 Speaker 9: he's just trying to make it tackle. 949 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 4: It happens so fast too, bro, the angle, the angle 950 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,280 Speaker 4: of which he came to make contact. If he lets 951 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 4: go so he doesn't hip hip drop, he misses the tackle, 952 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 4: it'll go down as a mistackle. But if he makes 953 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 4: the tackle, you've now labeled it a hip drop, Like 954 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 4: it doesn't necessarily make it a hip drop because he 955 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 4: he his momentum was going forward. 956 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 1: He makes contact with the shoulder pads. 957 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 4: If you're pulling the guy down by his shoulder pads, 958 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 4: you're supposed like you try not hip drop or dropping 959 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 4: your your level. It's like cow cow staer bulldogging right, 960 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 4: like you gotta drop your weight, you gotta like, have 961 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,800 Speaker 4: you seen what these guys squat? 962 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 1: Like? Did you see what Saquan squads? 963 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 9: You? 964 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,279 Speaker 4: Have you seen Derrick Henry's stiff arms and the things 965 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 4: he does in the weight room on in a season, 966 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 4: Tell me, please explain to me how Lulu gets a 967 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,839 Speaker 4: guy down if he's thinking about, oh, you can't hip 968 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 4: drop or you got to follow a certain type of 969 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 4: way when you make contact with Sakwan Barkley or Derrick 970 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,919 Speaker 4: Henry or any of these guys out, How does that work? 971 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 1: How does that work? 972 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 9: It doesn't work. And this rule they put in and 973 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 9: this is health and safety, you know, the health and 974 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 9: safety people of the NFL. And look that's important. We 975 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 9: get it it's it's really important. You want to protect 976 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 9: the players from unnecessary risk. But this to me is like, 977 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,959 Speaker 9: this isn't. This isn't Roy Williams back in the day 978 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 9: with the horse, it was intentional. It was I'm going 979 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 9: to grab your collar and I'm going to drop and 980 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,280 Speaker 9: I'm going to you know, and this is just trying 981 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 9: to make a play and that I mean, it's to 982 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,480 Speaker 9: have a suspension and this does not get called. This 983 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,840 Speaker 9: has been called twice all year because it's such a 984 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 9: hard play to officiate. So they told the officials, you know, 985 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 9: you better be a thousand per cent sure to throw 986 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 9: a flag. And the two times they've thrown it, it's like, 987 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 9: you know, is that a foul? Is that not a foul? 988 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 9: So they're just strictly doing it during the week on 989 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 9: on tape, and you've got the you've got the health 990 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,320 Speaker 9: and safety people, you have the compliance people. John Runyon, 991 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,320 Speaker 9: you know he used to play for the Eagles, know LeVar, 992 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 9: you know he I love John. 993 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 1: But nasty. It was nasty, I mean him. 994 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,479 Speaker 9: Back in the day. So it's it's you know, it's hard. 995 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 9: I get it in terms of they want to protect 996 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,399 Speaker 9: the players, but that's a tough one. When you see 997 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 9: that and you say, Okay, he had a couple of 998 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 9: others and now we're suspending him, that's crazy. 999 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 4: I think it's crazy to say we're protecting the players. 1000 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 4: Here's two reasons why. One I got to keep I 1001 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,359 Speaker 4: got to keep pulling this one out and and keep 1002 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 4: getting clarity on it. And then the second one is 1003 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 4: what it is the chip block. You are a defenseless defender. 1004 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 4: When a guy hides behind something, he hides behind somebody 1005 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 4: and and and comes out and hits you, that is 1006 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 4: a defenseless defender. No different than Okay, I know if 1007 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,359 Speaker 4: I'm going across the middle and I have to catch 1008 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 4: the ball, I know I'm going to get hit eventually. 1009 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,320 Speaker 4: If I'm pass rushing and I'm a good pass rusher, 1010 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 4: I know that there's probably gonna be somebody who tries 1011 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 4: to block me along with this guy eventually. But if 1012 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 4: I cannot see you and I am engaged with someone 1013 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 4: else trying to get around someone else, you have to 1014 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 4: by rules say it's the same exact thing. He is 1015 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 4: a defenseless defender. And then another thing, the second one 1016 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 4: that I'm seeing. I'm sorry, I'm speaking with so much 1017 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,839 Speaker 4: passion because I'm sitting here seeing guys get yoked up, 1018 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 4: jacked up, and we're talking about player safety. It's the 1019 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 4: tight end crack, the tight end crack, like he is 1020 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,840 Speaker 4: not detectable. And if he is actually cracking down on 1021 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 4: a pass rusher from a from a blitz, I mean 1022 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,279 Speaker 4: from a shift or from a motion, that is a 1023 00:51:58,520 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 4: defenseless defender. 1024 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 1: How is a tight end able to crack a. 1025 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,720 Speaker 4: Guy on the line of scrimmage if we're talking about 1026 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 4: player safety, if he's getting up the field, then he 1027 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,959 Speaker 4: should at least you should at least have a rule 1028 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 4: that says that defender must be able to see you 1029 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,920 Speaker 4: before you make contact with them. I mean, isn't that 1030 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:24,719 Speaker 4: kind of the courtesy that we're giving receivers no question and. 1031 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,239 Speaker 9: Look on the chip block and that's like that's a 1032 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 9: version of a blindside block. You don't you know you 1033 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 9: could talk about Okay, you know there are rules you 1034 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,799 Speaker 9: could put in and say, if I'm engaged, we know 1035 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 9: a chop block, right, if I'm engaged high, you can't 1036 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,719 Speaker 9: go low. Well, if I'm engaged and my focus is 1037 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 9: on the guy in front of block and somebody just 1038 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,400 Speaker 9: ear holds me from the side that that should be 1039 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,440 Speaker 9: a foul. That should be whether it's a it's a 1040 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 9: version of a chop block, or you have the blindside 1041 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 9: block rule already. And you know they did look at 1042 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,040 Speaker 9: this a couple of years ago. They try to outlaw 1043 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 9: that that you know, that whatever you want to call it, 1044 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 9: the wham block whatever. And if you're going outside in, 1045 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,240 Speaker 9: like if I'm and I'm a receiver and I'm outside 1046 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 9: the top two yards at least two yards outside the tackle, 1047 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 9: and I come outside in, I can't go low. If 1048 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 9: I'm in motion going back toward the ball, I can't 1049 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,360 Speaker 9: go low. But if I'm part I if I'm the 1050 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 9: tight end and I'm part of that, I'm part of 1051 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 9: that interior, I can come across and I can go low. 1052 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,799 Speaker 9: Or if I cross the center, I can go low. 1053 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 9: So and like you said, for those who are going 1054 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 9: to be the defensive player can't see it, and then 1055 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 9: that could lead to injuries. So I know they looked 1056 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 9: at that. And actually when I think it was the 1057 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 9: Jets and that was I know Robert Solo, that was 1058 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 9: a big thing for him when he was with the Jets. 1059 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,720 Speaker 9: They proposed it. It didn't get a lot of traction. 1060 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,320 Speaker 9: But I agree with you when we're talking about player safety, 1061 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 9: those seem like things that are more, you know, as 1062 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 9: an intentional block, where this loving thing, he's just he's 1063 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 9: making a tackle and the bodies just go that way 1064 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 9: as they go to the ground. 1065 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 2: Dean Blandino with us here on Fox Sports Radio. Dean 1066 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,239 Speaker 2: watching the Bengals Bears game, there was a moment and 1067 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 2: I don't know when this rule changed. I think, you know, 1068 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 2: Adam Archiletta and Sparrodidas were also kind of confused by 1069 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 2: it as well too. But andre Yosi Vash caught the 1070 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,360 Speaker 2: ball for a touchdown on what was thought to be 1071 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,799 Speaker 2: a touchdown, but it was ruled that he stepped out 1072 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,919 Speaker 2: of bounds and he was the first player to touch 1073 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 2: the ball after coming back in bounds. I was always 1074 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,800 Speaker 2: under the impression that that was a penalty. Apparently it's 1075 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 2: just an incomplete pass. They just ruled an incomplete pass 1076 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,400 Speaker 2: and they picked the flag up. What is the rule there? 1077 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,399 Speaker 2: And did that change recently? And maybe we just didn't 1078 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 2: know about it. 1079 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,880 Speaker 9: So the rule is if the receiver goes out of bounds, 1080 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,880 Speaker 9: either on their own or through legal contact, they can't 1081 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,359 Speaker 9: they can't come back inbounds and be the first to 1082 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,800 Speaker 9: touch and you become back inbounds when you re establish 1083 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,799 Speaker 9: with both feet. So he goes out a bounds, then 1084 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,279 Speaker 9: he gets both feet back inbounds and he touched it. 1085 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,239 Speaker 9: That's a foul. If he doesn't reestablish and he touches it, 1086 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,359 Speaker 9: it's just an income complete pass. So that's what they 1087 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 9: ruled that he did. He didn't re establish with both 1088 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 9: feet before the ball was touched. And uh and they 1089 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 9: and so they just picked up the flag made they 1090 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,200 Speaker 9: did in complete pass versus versus the penalty when you 1091 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:17,719 Speaker 9: actually touch it after getting both feetback in. 1092 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 3: Interesting one more thing from that game, Dean, have you 1093 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 3: ever seen a challenge where a team is hoping to 1094 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,840 Speaker 3: get a touch back and results in the opponent getting it? 1095 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 3: Is that the first time we've ever seen that in 1096 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:28,719 Speaker 3: a coach's challenge. 1097 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 9: It's happened before, It's happened before, and it's it's kind 1098 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,240 Speaker 9: of like, oh my god, not not in a while. 1099 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,479 Speaker 9: It's I remember play, Oh man, this is going back 1100 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 9: where it was. It was both it was it was 1101 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,960 Speaker 9: the Steelers and the Ravens, don't want to say, and 1102 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 9: it was a it was a it was a catch 1103 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 9: rule to catch at the goal line, and they rule 1104 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,479 Speaker 9: to catch. Forget it was on defense. The defense wanted 1105 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 9: to challenge that it was incomplete. The offense one of 1106 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 9: the challenge that it was a touchdown, and so the 1107 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,400 Speaker 9: defense ends up challenging that it's incomplete and they end 1108 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 9: up saying no, it's a catch and gets what it's 1109 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 9: a touchdown. So it's one of those It's one of 1110 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,880 Speaker 9: those deals where it's like, Okay, coach, I got some 1111 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 9: good news and I got some bad news. Like what 1112 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 9: do you want? You want? You want the challenge? 1113 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:22,799 Speaker 3: But is that to you in your position or just 1114 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,359 Speaker 3: having knowledge of all this kind of on the guy 1115 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 3: up in the booth or the box, who's got that 1116 00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 3: TV that he's looking at, who's should be giving his 1117 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,359 Speaker 3: head coach better, better instruction and direction at that point? 1118 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 1: Is that who it falls on? 1119 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:35,319 Speaker 8: Yeah? 1120 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,919 Speaker 9: Yeah, and those guys that they have a tough job 1121 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:42,239 Speaker 9: because you know there the coaches got you know, they 1122 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,839 Speaker 9: want that information right away. They've got they've got a 1123 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,320 Speaker 9: video they've got a video screen, and they've got some angles. 1124 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,399 Speaker 9: They can't really control any of the angles, but they're 1125 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,279 Speaker 9: watching what the replay booths is queuing up, and yeah, 1126 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:58,440 Speaker 9: that's on that person to say, Okay, we you know, 1127 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 9: we don't want to challenge this because this this could 1128 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,600 Speaker 9: end up going the other way and this would be 1129 00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,319 Speaker 9: this would be obviously a bad deal. And that's that's 1130 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 9: what happened. But those guys have a tough job because 1131 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 9: it's so you don't have a ton of time to 1132 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:11,759 Speaker 9: make those decisions. 1133 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 1: Dean, where are you at this weekend? You got a 1134 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 1: going on? 1135 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,920 Speaker 9: Were Well, we were supposed to be this little little 1136 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 9: background of on on how the scheduling works. We were 1137 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,440 Speaker 9: supposed to be in Washington for Detroit to the Lions 1138 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 9: and the Commanders, but the commanders have lost everybody and 1139 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 9: and so now we're we're switched to what we think 1140 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 9: is going to be hopefully a better game the we're 1141 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,320 Speaker 9: doing Seattle at the at the Niners. 1142 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 1: Nice. Wow, should be a good game. 1143 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, j Dean always fund Fox Sports College Football rules. 1144 00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 9: Yeah, Rams at the Niners. I got my week's Rams 1145 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 9: at the Niners. 1146 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, which okay, Yeah, good game, good battle. 1147 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 9: Somebody at the Niners. Somebody at the Niners could be 1148 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:56,320 Speaker 9: could be the Jaguars, I don't know. 1149 00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,160 Speaker 2: Ye have fun the side of the Super Bowl, so uh, 1150 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 2: you know, have fun up there. 1151 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:05,640 Speaker 1: Dean. There is the Great Dean Blandino with us here 1152 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:06,920 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio