1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:04,479 Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna. 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Podcast, Welcome to you, and that's what really missed podcast 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: for a very special episode Achievement. 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 2: Achievement. Hey Jenna, Today we have the one and only Rod, 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: just Rod at Rod on TikTok. He got that. That's 7 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: his name, no one else's name. 8 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: He actually got that. 9 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: He's the only one that's a that's a good gut 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: he is. I feel like the resident nostalgia millennial king 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 2: of the Internet. And it's just so nice, so funny 12 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: and talented and really just I think if you are 13 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 2: a fan of his, and if you're not, you're going 14 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: to learn just like how open and honest and check 15 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: gantic gleek he is. 16 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: He's a really wonderful conversation And I really am honestly 17 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: I say this in the podcast like interview, but I'm 18 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: like grateful for these awesome TikTokers that we've been able 19 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: to interview who are luckily Glee fans so we can 20 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: get them on the show, who are advocates of mental 21 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: health and are so vulnerable and open, and I think 22 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: we need. 23 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: More of it. So and I do think there's a 24 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 2: really good perspective from someone who's our age, who didn't 25 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 2: grow up with social media in the way that gen 26 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: Z and jen Alpha are doing now and like to 27 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: hear his respective of it is very enlightening. Yeah, So, 28 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 2: without further ado, here's Rod. 29 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: Hello, welcome, nice to meet you. 30 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: It's nice to Jenna jenneral. 31 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: Nice to Meeji. Thanks for coming on. This is very exciting. 32 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, very excited. 33 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: This is one of my Internet friends. 34 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, mutuals, like we say in the industry. 35 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: Is that what you say? So one of our mutuals. 36 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 3: I think it's like just a social media. 37 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: I guess I don't have Internet friends. 38 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 3: I say friends. People are like, yeah, do you know them? 39 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: I'm like yeah, I mean I see a lot of 40 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 3: their lives on the Internet. 41 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: I feel like yeah. And also because of how, like 42 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: I've said before, when things are like algorithmically tailored to 43 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: you and you like you know what you guys like, 44 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: we know each other's interests in our sense of humors, 45 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: and like that's the best way to connect. I feel 46 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: like exactly, we automatically get along, we have shared interests. 47 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy that an algorithm like gives us content 48 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: that we want to see yeah, or that we need 49 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: to see. Sometimes sometimes I'll be on TikTok and it's 50 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 3: like I did not need to see this, but I did. 51 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: I was trying to explain I've kept my brother off 52 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: a TikTok. He's forty two and a professor, and I 53 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: feel like he would love it, but I've kept him 54 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: off of it because like, you don't, you're not going 55 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: to understand how to talk to people, first of all, 56 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 2: and second of all, you're never going to get off 57 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: of it because it is going to perfectly sum up 58 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 2: all of your weird interests. It's going to go from 59 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: like evolutionary biology to all these obscure comedians he and 60 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: I talked about and he' said, what it's like, It's incredible. 61 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: It's wild. It's wild, but uh, it's the world we're 62 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 3: living in. It's crazy too. You can see the generational 63 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: difference and like, because like I've been part of social 64 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 3: media or I don't want to cut an interview time, 65 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 3: but I've been part of social media from Zinga Zenga 66 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 3: to today. I don't know if you guys had got 67 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: Zenga was like free my space. It was like right 68 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: from my space, had a short stint. It was like 69 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: the vining of its era, like a year of popularity. 70 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: It was like MySpace without like brending. 71 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: And all of that. 72 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: Okay, I did not know Zinga, but it's. 73 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 3: Like a blog basically. But you I've seen it all, 74 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: and I feel like it's crazy to see the generational differences, 75 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: like because we grew up in a time where like 76 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: interacting wasn't part of like wasn't for an algorithm. It 77 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 3: was just like we liked content. But now I feel 78 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: like gen Z generation after knows that, like the creators 79 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 3: that they love and want to support, they know they 80 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: have to interact with the content in order for it 81 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: to go anywhere. And of course my content's all millennials, 82 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 3: so they're like, that's funny, and then they just keep scrolling. 83 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: Then lately my content hasn't been going anywhere because it's 84 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 3: like millennials like cool anyway, I follow them already, so 85 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: fair they don't understand like the interaction. I did the 86 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: most millennial thing when I downloaded TikTok because I was 87 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: obsessed with Vine too, and then I got on TikTok 88 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 3: expecting it to be Vine like twenty nineteen, like late 89 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, and that's when it was like the cliche 90 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 3: like dancing app, and they started to like incorporate more 91 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 3: comedy content and promote comedy con creators. And then I 92 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 3: got soberwhelmed. Though I deleted the app after I'd made 93 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: one video when I went viral, and then four months 94 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 3: later I started making videos again, and then that's when 95 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 3: I started growing. Like I would have stuck with it, 96 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: that would have been crazy, but I got soberwhelmed with 97 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 3: just an app. I'm like, ah no, thinks. Then I 98 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: deleted it because I didn't want to be seen or 99 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: perceived fair. 100 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: I mean also, yeah, the public's view also of people 101 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: on it, becoming known from that app has completely shifted. 102 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: I mean in all forms of entertainment. It's like, yeah, 103 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: you might have we might have looked down at that traditionally, right, 104 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: and now that wouldn't even cross my mind. Yeah, from TikTok. 105 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you guys have seen it, probably more than me. 106 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 3: But even just like people thinking that just because I 107 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: show like a little part of my life on the internet, 108 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: they need to know everything you know, and it's just 109 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 3: it's it's wild to be prepared. And there was even 110 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: a moment where I felt like I needed to do that, 111 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 3: and then I'm like I don't though, you know, like 112 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: I talk about like working and I talk about growing 113 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 3: up in the nineties two thousands, So I'm like, that's 114 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 3: the content I share and I'm just going to keep shying. 115 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:47,679 Speaker 1: That that's that's who. Yeah, on the on the gram 116 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: or on the tick the top, I'm really showing my age. 117 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: I know nothing. 118 00:05:55,279 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm a cool mam. But that is interesting though, because 119 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: because you are an advocate for mental health, you know, 120 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: like it's that fine balance of social media versus real life, 121 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: versus what you're sharing versus people feeling like they know you. 122 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: So what is it like now because you have so 123 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: many followers, so many views, Like people seeing you on 124 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: the street, did they come up to you and they 125 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: does it feel like they really like you're their best friend? 126 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 3: It's like polar opposite. It's either like TikTok guy, I'll 127 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 3: just have someone just point at me to a TikTok 128 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: guy and I'm like. 129 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 4: Cool, like that that's funny. 130 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 3: Or there would be like I was out with one 131 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 3: of my friends who's a therapist, and someone stopped me 132 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 3: on the street and it was like, oh, my God, 133 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 3: Like you saved my life in the pandemic, which millennials. 134 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 3: I talked to my therapists fat this week and like 135 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 3: we just like exaggerate and catastrophize so much. That's like extremes. 136 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 3: It's like you saved my life, not like your videos 137 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: were funny and made my day. But my friend, because 138 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 3: she knows I'm insecure, you know, and she knows that 139 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 3: I'm going through and so she like grabbed my face 140 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: and she's it's four and she's like five three, So 141 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: she like grabbed my face down and she's like, I 142 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 3: want you to hear what that woman just said to you. 143 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: It's okay, you saved her life, Like I really don't 144 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: think I did. 145 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: Millennials, don't discount what you're contributing to say exactly. 146 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 3: But no, it is cool to see. It's like I 147 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: never thought it was funny. I like always was a 148 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: consumer of content on the internet. Didn't expect any of 149 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 3: this to go anywhere, and then here we are now 150 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 3: talking to people from one of my favorite shows. 151 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: We'll get to that, that's right, we'll get to that. Yeah, 152 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: But when you started on the talk, what was the 153 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: I remember you? You talked you mentioned it earlier, but like, 154 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: what was the impetus like or the intent one you 155 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: were starting on the talk why you didn't think you 156 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: were funny? 157 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: I just kind of like a I did on Instagram 158 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: before or like Facebook, even throwing it back was just 159 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: like for people that I was friends with, because like 160 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: I had a couple of coworkers and the friends we 161 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 3: followed each other because we would send each other kiktok 162 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: strictlan on there rather than like texting them to each other. 163 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 3: And then I just like started making the videos and 164 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 3: then a ton of them didn't really take off. But 165 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: then once I made one that really leaned into like 166 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 3: using a throwback song, I used like a cascata every 167 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 3: time we touch I'm sure you all know that song 168 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: machic Yeah, Magic Ethereal sends me the space every time 169 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: I used that song one my videos. And then I 170 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 3: just kept going with that nostalgic collab of like working 171 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: from home content just you know, kept doing that. And again, 172 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: it was like October twenty twenty is when I started 173 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 3: doing that, and then it wasn't until like I started 174 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 3: re entering the world in twenty twenty one where I'm like, oh, 175 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 3: those like that number of like one point two million, 176 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 3: which was my following at the time, are real people, 177 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 3: because people came up and like started recognizing me and like, no, 178 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, I just like make silly little videos, you know. 179 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 3: And then you know, I started to embrace the fact that, like, 180 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: my videos are reaching a ton of people. 181 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: It is a crazy thing, though, because when you do 182 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: have somebody literally in the palm of your hand watching 183 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: them every day and we are everyone was stuck at home, 184 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 2: and you do feel like you've become friends with them, 185 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: like immediately starting talking to you, let's say, like on 186 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: Instagram or something like. I feel like there was a 187 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: comfortability factor. So I can't even imagine, but I know 188 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: having been on like a certain side of it to 189 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 2: an extent of like, well, we don't actually know each other. 190 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: I don't want to be like creepy and weird and 191 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: assume like I know anything really about but I respect 192 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: their talent and humility and all that, and so like 193 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: going out into the public after that had to be 194 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: like a real awakening of oh, a year ago, this 195 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 2: was not my life, and now all of a sudden 196 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: everything has changed. 197 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 3: Everything, everything has changed. But yeah, it's funny you mentioned 198 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 3: that too, because I feel like it's what I realized 199 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,599 Speaker 3: to when you like meet people from social media or 200 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 3: even like when people come up to me, I feel 201 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 3: like that first layer is broken at least of like 202 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 3: getting to know you, because it's like what do you 203 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 3: do for work and all that stuff, because like you 204 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 3: already have that, or like it's almost like social media 205 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: is the mutual friend. Meeting people off social media? 206 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it is. I mean, I'm going to steal 207 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: that because my least favorite thing about sort of small 208 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: talk meeting people catching up with old friends is so 209 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: like what do you do? What are you up to? 210 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: That whole thing? And you're right, it does completely just 211 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 2: negate having to even go there, right. 212 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:49,599 Speaker 3: And I feel like if if I do like a 213 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 3: Q and A on Instagram or something and just like 214 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: random advice that I'm not qualified to give, absolutely not, 215 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: but I'll still do it just to do something fun 216 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 3: on Instagram, I get a lot of comments and like 217 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: how do I make friends as an adult? Or how 218 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 3: do I make new friends as an adult? And it 219 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 3: put into perspective for me too. It's like just like 220 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 3: what feels natural because I feel like there was this 221 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: time in my life where I felt I was forcing 222 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 3: so many friendships and I was like so surfaced with 223 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: so many of them. And now I feel like I'm 224 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 3: at a point where like the people that are in 225 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 3: my life are like in it and they've helped me 226 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 3: through some some really hard times, and I feel I 227 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 3: was I'm like I don't want new friends in the 228 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: sense of like I don't feel like making a new 229 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 3: like circle of friends. Yeah, like I'm totally for like 230 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 3: broadening the circle of friends I have now, like through 231 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 3: other mutuals and stuff and something organic captain's for sure, 232 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 3: But I'm not like actively searching out new friendships because 233 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 3: I just don't have the bandwidth there right now. Corporate word. 234 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 2: But yeah, it takes so much time and energy to 235 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: develop like meaningful and lasting friendship. So to sort of 236 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 2: it's like dating. If you've been in the long term 237 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: relationship and all the something happens and you break up. 238 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: I have to do this again. I have to like 239 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 2: go through all this getting to know you and. 240 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: Also around the surface ones, they're like the ones you 241 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: have the least amount of time for. You're like, why 242 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: is why am I even doing this? 243 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 4: Serving me? 244 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: Is you know, does it serve me. 245 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: You have to, Like I noticed to, it's harder to 246 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 3: break up with a friend sometimes than it is depending 247 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 3: how long you've been dating the person that it is 248 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 3: just for like a relationship totally, because it's like you 249 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 3: feel like an obligation because you've been there for each 250 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 3: other through all this stuff. But at a certain points, 251 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 3: if it's creating more stress for both of you, what's 252 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 3: the point it doesn't serve you. 253 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: I haven't had to break up with a friend in 254 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: a really long time. I don't either. 255 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, good, Kevin, Good. I think I just good people 256 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 2: around you. 257 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: That's why the same good people around you most I do. 258 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 2: See I have. I've had the same circle, and I 259 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: slowly broadened it over time. Yeah yeah, every now and 260 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: but but I have started to recognize just because I'm 261 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: a round someone frequently like new people frequently, doesn't mean 262 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: I want to be or have to be. That's happened 263 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: a lot time. I'm like, oh, like we're peripherally like 264 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: in the same circle, right like and like, oh, but 265 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 2: actually I don't. This is taking up some time and 266 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: energy that I don't want. I'd rather give it to Jenna, 267 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 2: you know. 268 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, it's like where you feel safe. Like 269 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 3: I did residential therapy in May for a month where 270 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: I like lived at a center basically just because I 271 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: was at a like a low I guess you would 272 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 3: call it. 273 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 274 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 3: And the first question that they ask when you're like 275 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 3: discharging or like re entering the world is like, what 276 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: right down ten people who are your safe space? And 277 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: so I've been working with my therapists and transition a 278 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 3: lot too, and just like who is safe? That's really 279 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 3: the friendships that matter, you know, And I feel like 280 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 3: once you lose that safety too, where you have to 281 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 3: learn to trust someone new if you canting someone news, 282 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 3: it was really difficult to gauge, right. 283 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: Whoa deep stuff this is I think we've ever gone on. 284 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 2: I love it. 285 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: When you started on all of this. A lot of 286 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: your stuff was like about you know, work, right, complaining 287 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: about work or complaining about work? What does your work 288 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: think about it? 289 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 3: Oh my god? I was really nervous because the complaints 290 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 3: I was making about work we're former companies, because I 291 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 3: like worked for some toxic workplaces that if I mentioned them, 292 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: everyone know. But it was just like startups or fitness companies. 293 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 3: And one of my I was in sales too, so 294 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: it's like sales is like the grind right m And 295 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 3: one of my like my former companies, we had to 296 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 3: work till like midnight the last four days of every 297 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: month just to like make more sales, were signing up 298 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 3: people for a gym. So at the time when I 299 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: was making these tiktoks, I was working for a really 300 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 3: healthy company that treated me well. So that's what you 301 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 3: can see that at the beginning, I talk more about 302 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 3: my experience and like how I feel rather than like 303 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 3: how the company's treating me. But there was a moment 304 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,359 Speaker 3: where I got a counter invite just said you're tiktoks. 305 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: And again, this is like at that early stage where 306 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: I didn't think those people were real that were like 307 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 3: watching my videos, Like I knew they were real, but 308 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 3: it was just like, you know, I couldn't feel a connection. 309 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 3: And I got on that meeting and it was with 310 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 3: my boss's boss, so I was terrified. I'm like, this 311 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 3: is it. I'm getting fired. I don't like I looked 312 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 3: through my contract that I signed to see if there's 313 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: any social media clause, which I don't think there was 314 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 3: at the time, and he it was a guy and 315 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 3: again in sales, it can be a lot of toxic masculinity. 316 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 3: So he was like really stern, and I was really 317 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 3: nervous for him to slatd into me. And he goes 318 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 3: talk about your videos. I relate to a lot of them, 319 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my god. I thought I 320 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 3: was like getting fired. I thought this was this was done. 321 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 3: And he's like, I think that about our CEO all 322 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 3: the time. And it was just like a way. It 323 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 3: was like really funny because like we related to each 324 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 3: other and that's was like the content was for everyone, 325 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 3: even though it's marketed towards the specific someone. Wow. Yeah, 326 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: I wish I had a better story that I got 327 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 3: in trouble or something. 328 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: But no. 329 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 3: There were a couple of videos where I had a 330 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 3: manager send it to me to like be careful or 331 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 3: like you're going a line here. 332 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: Whenever I'm building a brand in a business, don't worry 333 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: about me. 334 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. 335 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that must have felt good though, you know, 336 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: just completely off taken off guard in the best way possible. 337 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: Right, Wow, Okay, now I'm getting a promotion. For sure. 338 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 3: There was a hard balance, so like because there was 339 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 3: moments where I felt like I had to make a 340 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 3: video like every hour or like every three times a day, 341 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 3: because that's what I was doing when I was first growing. 342 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 3: And now there's like two weeks, right, don't make a video, 343 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 3: And that's fine with me, because again, talking about mental 344 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: health is just like you know, it was a very 345 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 3: like traumatic experience going from like zero to one hundred, 346 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 3: while my personal life at the time was kind of crumbling. 347 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 3: So it's like very hard to balance it all. Just 348 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 3: taking time for myself to it, which would have done 349 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 3: that more early on, to a focus more on my job. 350 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard. It's like anybody. Everybody's looking for 351 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 2: success in some way and something right, and it's like, 352 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 2: all of a sudden you find this random success in 353 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: something and you know that it does on average take 354 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 2: like three videos a day to maintain that to build 355 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 2: some sort of following, and you're like, well, sure, I'll 356 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 2: let everything else all apart a little bit because it's 357 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: like a professional weird thing is happening for me. 358 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: Right. 359 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 3: If I didn't have a video go viral, I would 360 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 3: like stay up like until like nine on the app, 361 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 3: which is like trying to make something just lost my 362 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 3: life doing that. 363 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: It's like trying to get like your fix of right, Like, 364 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 2: you know how. 365 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 3: Viral video is just crazy. 366 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: So how do you how do you now balance that 367 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: for your mental health? It sounds like you've obviously taken 368 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: that as the priority versus the social media or the 369 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: you know, the the views, So like, how how long 370 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: did it take you to get there and what did 371 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: you do? 372 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was that moment of realizing that 373 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 3: I looked at my profile and I was like, wait, 374 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 3: there's one point six million people here who follow me 375 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 3: who can't engage my content. That's like your brain has 376 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 3: the capacity of knowing a thousand people, you know. So 377 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 3: that was wild to me that that many people followed me. 378 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 3: And then I'm like, why the reason I kept posting? 379 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:49,959 Speaker 3: Posting because I wanted to grow. I wanted to grow 380 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 3: because I thought it would stop. And then once I 381 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 3: realized that I didn't need any more than that, because 382 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 3: I didn't even need a thousand. If my content reached 383 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 3: five pep, that's all that mattered. I had that moment 384 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 3: of introspective where I realized that I am making this 385 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 3: just for the community, and if I'm not well, if 386 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 3: I'm like not living by what I'm trying to say, 387 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 3: even just like as a joke, then what's the point 388 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 3: of doing it. So just like if I think of 389 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 3: something funny, I'll post it. And you know, I do 390 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 3: have to be methodical a little bit if I don't 391 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 3: want my whole feed to be like branded content, and 392 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: I do you know, need to have branded content to 393 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 3: earn money to do with whatever, and so I do 394 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 3: have to regularly post for that, but just not as 395 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 3: much pressure like I would even research like the best 396 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 3: time to post on TikTok and like, that's so weird 397 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 3: that I was like living by. 398 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm pretty sure I've done that too. 399 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's admirable because I think a lot of people 400 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: do feel like like a slave to the to you know, 401 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: social media in a way, especially when you're making money 402 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: off of it and it's part of your livelihood, so 403 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: it can be really hard to balance it. But yeah, great, 404 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: good on you. I mean, really very admorable, truly. Okay, 405 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: let's talk about me a little bit, because you know 406 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: podcast tell us about when you first saw Glee and 407 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: and kind of your journey with the show, because I 408 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: know you've watched a few times now. 409 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 3: Yes, I vividly remember I went to like I went 410 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 3: to a religious college where it was like very strict 411 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 3: and even like there, it wasn't I wasn't not allowed 412 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 3: to watch Glee, but I remember if I was there, 413 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 3: definitely would have been some judgment because you like, you know, 414 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: you guys were posting about things that like oh yeah, 415 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 3: like you were like the episodes are going live about 416 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 3: like against what I was being. 417 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: Totally yeah Ryan every single week. 418 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you used to it, but I remember I 419 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 3: was in my dorm room my roommate with my roommate 420 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 3: got swine flu. I don't know if you remember swine flu. Yeah, 421 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 3: And the show premiered my first year at this college, 422 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 3: so I actually had like the whole dorm to myself 423 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 3: basically the entire semester. So I like locked the door 424 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 3: and I remember like scheduling it to watch it live 425 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 3: and then yeah I watched it opening day. 426 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, day one crazy? What made you want to 427 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 2: watch it? 428 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 3: Like? Man, I was a theater kid. I was in Yeah, 429 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 3: I was in musicals even throughout college, and that really 430 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 3: caught my eye. My school didn't have show choir, but 431 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 3: I remember I had some friends from my youth group 432 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 3: that were in show choir, so to go watch them 433 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 3: in show choir. And so I was just love music 434 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 3: and found it fascinating. So I was caught from day one. 435 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: So it sounds like the music was the thing that 436 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: kind of kept you right. 437 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 3: The music, but then the writing just kept me going 438 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 3: to Like I still you know how people like watch 439 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 3: fine compilations, your TikTok compilations. I watch gleek compilations when 440 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 3: I need a lot or just something for background noise, 441 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 3: just actually see. 442 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 2: It's like me watching the America's Got Talent compilations. 443 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 3: Like the like the Golden buzzer. 444 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: Yes, just before we got that's what I was doing. 445 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: I've been crying. 446 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 3: My eyes. 447 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: I looked a mess. My eyes were bloodshot before I 448 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 2: got on here, Like I have to go get my 449 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: life together before I see someone. 450 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 3: There's nothing better too than when someone gets the golden 451 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 3: buzzer and they just look underwhelmed, and like, do you 452 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 3: not really You're more excited than they are. 453 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 2: There is golden confetti. Heidi Klum loves you. 454 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 3: How do you clume hit that buzzer for you? Yeah, 455 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 3: the cannon's right there. 456 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: I don't believe you. You used to go watch show choir, 457 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: like your friend was in show, Like, I have no 458 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: knowledge that show choir existed pre being on the show. Yeah, 459 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 2: that was something. 460 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 3: The suburb I grew up in had a really intense school, 461 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 3: Like the choir performed at the Grammys, Like it was 462 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 3: very very musical school, very much like Audio Adrenaline, but 463 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 3: it was it was uh yeah, so I would go 464 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 3: and see the perform It's really good. But yeah, very 465 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 3: knowledgeable in the show choir world. 466 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: Is it true that you're on your fifth rewatch? 467 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 3: It could be One thing about me is I I 468 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 3: will never watch a new show. I have two types 469 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 3: of shows that I watch. I have shows that I've 470 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 3: seen multiple times it's really Happy Endings, not sure if 471 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 3: familiar with that show and a New Girl. And then 472 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 3: I watch shows that ended way too early, like shows 473 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 3: that have one season even and I just feel like 474 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 3: this is the worst, like happy Endings. I just watched Reboot. 475 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 3: That is a new show I watched and that ended 476 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 3: after one season, Like why do I get hooked on 477 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: and I don't even know? I like, look like one season, 478 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 3: I look when season two happening, it's like it ended. 479 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, great, it's because you have good taste. Those 480 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 2: are like all the great sort of obscure comedies that 481 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: we're very good and absolutely disa to have more. 482 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 3: Amazing writing, just like we ahead of their time, ahead 483 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 3: of their time. 484 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: Okay, I have a couple of favorites, and I don't 485 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: know if you can give us off the top of 486 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: your head, but no pressure. Okay, what was your favorite. 487 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 2: Season? 488 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: Season threeh my god, we just started season three. I 489 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: don't remember anything from it, so I'm really. 490 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: Use that's what people keep. 491 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 3: Saying this rewatch. I started on season three, the first 492 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 3: two but and I you know, I think that transition 493 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 3: starting in season four was like beautifully done. And obviously 494 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 3: you know less of some cast members than others, but 495 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 3: you know, that's what I look forward. 496 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: To when I do my rewatch. Wow, what about season 497 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: three is the one for you? Is it because some 498 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 2: of them are graduating? It is that like gross thing? 499 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 3: Or yeah, it's like the final you know, it's like that. 500 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 3: It is really nostalgic for me because it brings me 501 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 3: back to high school truly, and I think, you know, 502 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 3: after watching it, you know what happens at the end 503 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 3: of it. But just like the road to Nationals is 504 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 3: always inspiring to watch give me chills. 505 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: It feels like season six. 506 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the season with My Cup, right. 507 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: My cup with season two? 508 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 3: Was that really? Yes? 509 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 2: We were surprised as well. 510 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 3: That is one of my favorites. 511 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 2: I said you had good taste, right classic good. 512 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 3: Season three? 513 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 2: Right? Yes? 514 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and that's one okay cool. 515 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 2: When we do my cup is when we're trying to 516 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: write I. 517 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: Remember that, ye, mister, like you guys write it. You guys, 518 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: go ahead it right, no plan, good luck? Okay, next one? 519 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: And what is your favorite if you had to pick 520 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: a favorite episode and and mash up? Do you have 521 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: a favorite mash up? 522 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 2: Oh? 523 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, My favorite mashup is when the walking on Sunshine 524 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 3: Halo this vitamin. That's the vitamin the episode right, yes, 525 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 3: which is probably one of my favorite episodes too, just 526 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 3: because it's such like an out there concept really, but 527 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 3: I love every Brittany episode too, you know, just like 528 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 3: growing up with Britney Spears and then doing all the 529 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 3: cover songs, and then the Michael episode is always good, 530 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 3: like Naya doing Smith Criminal Smooth Criminal. 531 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: Wasn't saying it was going to be one of my favorites. Yeah? 532 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, what is in your opinion is the most unhinged 533 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: story line. 534 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 3: Oh my god, so many to choose from there are 535 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 3: I think everything was Sue, but I think Quinn in 536 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 3: a wheelchair, well, yeah, I'm sorry seeing that a wheelchair, 537 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 3: and I think it's just there's a line that Sue says, 538 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 3: either in season five or season six, about like how 539 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 3: easily it is for the grade just to come back. 540 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 3: She's like, I don't know how you're funding your teleportation 541 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 3: back here, But that's always a crazy storyline to me. 542 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 3: The graduates just like show up, I don't know, nowhere. 543 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 3: Remember when I was freshman supper year of college, I 544 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 3: could barely fly home on a forty five minute flight 545 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 3: from mine Chicago, you know, like, how are you coming 546 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,479 Speaker 3: back from New York so easily? 547 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 2: Everyone's just next door, you know, New York and Ohio? Yeah, 548 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 2: very close, close, Yeah right. 549 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 3: I think growing up in the Midwest maybe appreciate Lee 550 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: because my dad's from Ohio, so I've been in Ohio 551 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 3: many times, but just very you know, similar to the 552 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 3: suburbs schools that I grew up. 553 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: Grew up. Did the show feel like the Midwest to you? 554 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 3: It did? 555 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 2: It did? 556 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 3: Yeah? Because I knew I didn't know anything about the 557 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 3: industry even until I started making content. So it's just 558 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 3: like I thought you all filmed in Ohio, you know, 559 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 3: like that's how naive was to this whole. Yeah, for 560 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 3: most of it, and then you know, obviously learning more 561 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 3: about the industry, learn that sets exist. But it did 562 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 3: feel very Midwest. 563 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 2: From Chicago, Okay, what's up? 564 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Ryan Murphy also not from Chicago, but from the Midwest. Yeah, 565 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: and then in Chicago, so yeah, that's a little bit 566 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: more glamorous season four or five. 567 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 3: Right, right, I did. I actually did like the second 568 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 3: round of casts two, like yeah, Unique and Marley Rose 569 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 3: doing blow Me for the Grease Audition is one of 570 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 3: my favorite performances too. We love but yeah, they're good, 571 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 3: kitty and like watching and I forgot how upset I 572 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 3: was that, like we didn't get a closure to them. Yeah, 573 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 3: in the final season. 574 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 2: Totally was a bummer for me. 575 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: Totally. 576 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love how this You appreciate them, Oh, you know, 577 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 4: unsign heroes, they're all great. Yeah, but we was very 578 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 4: formative for me. 579 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: All right, so we leave, We ask everybody at the 580 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: end of the episode, what is the feeling that Lee 581 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: leaves you with? As somebody who's potentially watched the show 582 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: five times. What what is the feeling that Glee leaves 583 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: you with? 584 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 3: It does leave me with nostalgia, I think. I I've 585 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 3: been talking a lot with my therapist too, because its 586 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 3: creating nostalgic content, Like why is nostalgia so important? It's 587 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 3: I could transport you, transport you back to a time, 588 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 3: even if it was a stressful time, like I did 589 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 3: not have great years, you know, in college, but it's 590 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 3: not the time that you're in now. And I've been 591 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 3: going through some stressful stuff now, so it's like been 592 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,719 Speaker 3: nice to have that nostalgia and the music and you know, 593 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 3: kind of calculate it encapsulates, like my high school experience. 594 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 3: So watching that replay through through your characters is always 595 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 3: a nostalgic feeling for me. 596 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: You are nostalgia. You are my nostalgia on your step. 597 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: You are nostalgia. Please do, please do. 598 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,239 Speaker 3: And you're inspiring trampoline too. I want you to know 599 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 3: I listen. I don't think I can do the weight 600 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 3: limit for the one I could have in my apartment. 601 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: You can't, and you can't nobody. 602 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 2: Jenna, Jenna, You're an inspiration. 603 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: I did it I do it. 604 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 2: If you do it, I can't. I am terrified do it. 605 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, he doesn't want to do it. 606 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: The way you can kick your own face with your shin. 607 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: I don't. I can't even toes. I don't know. 608 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. 609 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 3: You did sit in the chair for years. 610 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, I have that. Yeah. 611 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: I've always been pretty flexible, So it's it's not something 612 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: that I, you know, had to work hard at. 613 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 2: Maybe she's born with it. 614 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 3: Maybe she's born with it. 615 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. Rod. 616 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here, and obviously I 617 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: would open up the floor if you have any questions aboutly, 618 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: We're happy to answer them. 619 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 3: I did have one. I think, okay, go for it 620 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 3: for one moment. Also for Rachel sending Sunshine to the 621 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 3: crack house while we send me, I. 622 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: Mean, it's just so bad. 623 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think so. One thing I noticed too 624 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 3: at the beginning is, you know, with Naya and Heather, 625 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,719 Speaker 3: the pilot obviously pilots changed to once they get picked up, 626 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 3: but like they're just seeing like background characters. It was 627 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 3: so interesting to see them become like main characters of 628 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 3: the show like you two were. So was that the 629 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 3: plan all along, like from episode of one, Yeah, because 630 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 3: it was singing. 631 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: And exactly say a little crayer, how there was a dancer. 632 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: I was hired as a dancer by Zach and so 633 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: Zach actually was the one who pushed Ryan to see 634 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: her for another Greek Club member. And then Brittany Espierce 635 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: was born from Heather essentially and Ryan of course. 636 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 2: It was sort of like n I started to get 637 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 2: any line or song and she was behind the scenes 638 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 2: such so funny. Yeah that Ryan was just like, Okay, 639 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 2: we need more of that. And I think just because 640 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 2: they're both amazingly talented, they just started writing for them. 641 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think like The Boy Is Mine was like 642 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: one of the first kind of births of Santana and 643 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:44,239 Speaker 1: especially her and Mercedes because Ryan saw them like we 644 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: were at our cast chairs and they were doing the 645 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: impressions and so he put it in and you're like, 646 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: oh and then they like show up you know what 647 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: I mean on screen as well. 648 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 3: So it was I think when she did when she 649 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 3: had her solo and the Gods, which one it was 650 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 3: that's like the first time you wrote bad Romance. Yeah, 651 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 3: it was the first time, like you heard her voice solo. 652 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 3: I think right or one of them, and I was 653 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 3: just like, damn. 654 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 2: Got it. We were sort of like the guinea pigs. 655 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 2: I think for the wider audience, it's like if we 656 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 2: liked it and then Ryan liked it, then he'd put 657 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 2: it in and then like the public sort of responded 658 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 2: to it just how we were, like this needs to happen, 659 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 2: she's so good, put this in, or like Heather is hilarious, 660 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 2: listen to this, like bitch, she has right, and then 661 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 2: it just you know, people responded with it just like 662 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 2: we did. So maybe we were the taste makers. 663 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 3: Ye, that's a whole coin, I think. Besides you, like, 664 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 3: the only other show that's done that with like making 665 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 3: like growing the cast and like creating background characters throughout 666 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 3: the series is The Office. But it's like such a 667 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 3: big cast, but everyone's so notable, you know, totally. 668 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 2: Very I think when everyone is so specific and everyone 669 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 2: comes to the table with like their unique abilities, how 670 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 2: can you can't It's unavoidable because you're filling out this 671 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 2: really beautiful ensemble where there wasn't sure the were leads 672 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 2: of both shows, but it was very much a team effort. 673 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 3: Yeah right, Yeah, that's awesome to know that's my question. 674 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: Well, we're grateful you came on, and we're grateful that 675 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: for what you share on your on your social channels, 676 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: and you know all the good, good things you're doing 677 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: and saving people's lives. So thank you so much for 678 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: really nice to meet you. 679 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 3: Nice to meet you too. You want to get my trampoline? 680 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 2: Please do those are the new videos. 681 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: Please do it. 682 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 2: When we're in the same town, you and I can 683 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: take a trampoline class together. 684 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 3: We'll just go to like those bounce houses. 685 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: You're the best. Thank you so much. 686 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: Thank you What a sweet sweet lad man. Yes, really great. 687 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,280 Speaker 2: Very calm, very calm. 688 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: I enjoyed his energy. 689 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel very tranquil now, Like I just want 690 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 2: to sit and hear him talk all day. I gotta say, Rod, 691 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 2: thank you for being so just honest and open about 692 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 2: your journey, your mental health journey, your journey through TikTok 693 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 2: and social media in general. I also think that's the 694 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 2: sort of the key to his success, isn't it is 695 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 2: that he there is no sort of false pretense or 696 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 2: made up shtick. He is just who he is and 697 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 2: it is relatable and you're drawn in by him. You 698 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 2: just want to hear from. 699 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: Him absolutely, and it's like his integrity and like intention 700 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: behind posting for not to be famous, not to get 701 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: jobs from it, but to like really just reach people. 702 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: You can really feel that it's very honest. 703 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's refreshing, and I do feel like there is 704 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 2: absolutely space for that and space to be successful at that. 705 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 2: And it's nice to see that that's happening for him 706 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 2: in that way. And also what thoughtful well considerations about Glee, 707 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 2: you know, he like we all have that show, like 708 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 2: you and one of my best friends justin like watch 709 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 2: Friends or west Wing every single night to fall asleep 710 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 2: or like it's their comfort show. And to meet people 711 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 2: who like Glee is sort of their comfort show or 712 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 2: they've watched it that many times and know it Like 713 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 2: you can't even put a number to how many times 714 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 2: rewatched it because you're just always sort of running in 715 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 2: the background or watching compilations or something. That's wild to 716 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 2: like be on a show that is that for people. 717 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,760 Speaker 2: That sort of breaks my brain a bit. People. 718 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, no, for sure, agreed. Agreed, Well, thanks 719 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: for joining us. Hope you guys enjoyed the episode and 720 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: join us next feed. 721 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 2: And that's what you really missed. Thanks for listening, and 722 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 2: follow us on Instagram at and that's what you really 723 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 2: miss pod. Make sure to write us a review and 724 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 2: leave us five stars. See you next time.