1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Four seven, Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 2 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: Welcoming to the drive by'm Dale Lalli. He is Matt Williamson, 3 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: and we are live once again at Steelers training camp. 4 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, but this will be a last one for a while. 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 3: This number twelve today, I think it's twelve. Sounds right, 6 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 3: sounds right. 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: But Steelers practicing here at Saint Vincent College, last practice 8 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: before their first preseason game. I heard from Mike Tomlin 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: earlier today said that basically everybody who's healthy is going 10 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: to play. And he was asked, you know, if Kenny 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 2: Pickett needs more playing time than say a typical starting quarterback, 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: and he said, yeah, he's like a second year starter. 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 3: Yes, it's that simple. Yeah. 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we get the ones versus the ones. Here 15 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: looks like a little first and ten action here. The 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: offense breaks the huddle, picket going under center with nausea, 17 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: Harris behind him, trips to the left. 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 3: And we got no motion, no motion at all. That's 19 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 3: outside zone run and it got blown up. 20 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, they tried to run that right and that just didn't. 21 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: Go, not even a little bit. Yeah, So who made 22 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: to play though? That was coolholcom and very very much 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 3: saw that coming. 24 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was Darnel Washington. They ran towards Washington's side 25 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: and well it just didn't didn't happen, didn't develop at all, 26 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: ran right at TJ Watt to then. Yeah, never the 27 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: best idea, speaking of what you know, we had sort 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 2: of suspected that this might be a take it light 29 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: not padded type practice, but no, not the case at all. No, No, 30 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 2: he's Mike Tom the challenging. You know, we got Kendrick Green. 31 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: He's lined up in the backfield. Nine motions to the 32 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: left wing with Jaylen Warren in the backfield. Pick it 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: again under center and they hand the ball off that 34 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: to that side. 35 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: And very similar to zone run left. It didn't go 36 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: hardly anywhere. 37 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: It's a little bit of a game there. 38 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, maybe two or three no motion again. I 39 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: wonder if they're doing a static period or something, or 40 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 3: maybe it's just two in a row. It's pretty odd 41 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 3: not to see some sort of pre snap action right 42 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: in this offense. Yeah, we just gotten so accustomed to 43 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: seeing that without question. Yeah, so, uh, new personnel coming 44 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 3: into the game. Uh saw Washington's firemouth come in. They 45 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: take some of the other smaller I see Deontay Johnson 46 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: came off to white out there. Looks like with Alan 47 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: Robinson's the other wide receiver. Two tight ends. Robinson goes 48 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: in motion. There's your motion from rank to follows. Yeah, 49 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: how about that, But doesn't play man, this guy's taking 50 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 3: that flat? 51 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: Nice Yeah, Now maybe the defensive back there, Yeah, Slevia 52 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: Wallace was on the the outside guy that they hit 53 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: the trail guy coming across and there's a guy clearing 54 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: that out deep and Wallace came up on that. He 55 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: probably needs a chance to break that up if if 56 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: that's our real live play. But nice touch on the throat. 57 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: They're getting it over the guy in the flat here 58 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: as well. They tight end in the flat. Say three levels, yeah, 59 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: staggered him, you know, three level, three level route concept there. 60 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: He picked with twenty you like best, preferably the deeper 61 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: one obviously, and that's what they hit. So what we 62 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: got here heavy the right again? Yeah, Johnson back on 63 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: the field here, nag Harris back in the backfield A 64 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 2: little step there on that. 65 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: TJ beats up on Green on that play. Yeah, gets 66 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: in the backfield real quick. 67 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: That's the one thing so for Kendrick Green playing that 68 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: full back slash that h back role kind of Yeah, 69 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 2: he's not used to being out on the edge like 70 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: that against an athlete like TJ. 71 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: Watt. That's what I'm saying. Asking him to be an 72 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 3: offensive tackle isn't necessarily good. I mean, maybe he's better 73 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 3: than a tight end at doing it, but I don't 74 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: want a tight end blocking TJ. Watt either, you know 75 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: what I mean? Like I want the best guy. I 76 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: want my best right tackle, maybe with help blocking Watt 77 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 3: or Garrett or Bosa or Crosby or whomever. And sure 78 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: Green might be better than a wide receiver. Am I better 79 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: than any of the skill position guys, But it's not 80 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: close to what he does. 81 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: It's not what you want. Yeah, he motions this time 82 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: from right to left again on the wing. 83 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: Asked him to kick slide from an edge position really 84 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: is much more unnatural for him than playing fullback. 85 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: The defense, the defense a little fired up today. 86 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've kind of noticeding that trend. 87 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: As a little birdie told me they were not happy 88 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 2: about how they got handled yesterday and the shag stuff. Okay, 89 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 2: and Cam Hayward was in particular, was not happy about that. 90 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: And I'm sure that defense the other defensive. Guys all 91 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: got an earful probably. 92 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, probably yeah. Yeah. By the look of the meals 93 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 3: at dinner last night too, offense definitely won yesterday and 94 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: that we weren't just suspecting that there was proof in 95 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: the lobster and steak. But I love that. That does 96 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 3: not settle well at all with the folks in the 97 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 3: yellow jerseys right now. Yeah, and they're tackling to the ground, 98 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: they're playing physical. They're bouncing right up and bouncing around 99 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 3: the d looks great, Yeah, they're we. 100 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: Got somebody down. Slow to get up here? Who is 101 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: that seventy one Clark that maybe no turbick and they herbig, 102 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: a little slow to get up there. But he looks 103 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: like he's okay. 104 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think they're even taking him off the field. No, No, 105 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 3: he was just he got in the middle of the pile. Yeah, 106 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 3: caught at the bottom of that pile. Right now, Is 107 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: he coming off now? Maybe they take him out? Yeah, 108 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 3: he's slowly going off now. Yeah, it looks like he's 109 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: okay though. No, that was sixty eighth that came out. 110 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: He's staying in there. So yeah, William duncle was going in. 111 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: I think it is Herbec's backup and Perbec's now get 112 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 3: out of here. 113 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. 114 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good to see he's competing too. The situation 115 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: like that night ten times you come out. Got Roger 116 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 3: Jones at left tackle too. Yeah, you got the second 117 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 3: line in there. Get McFarlane shifting the shotgun here, he 118 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 3: shifts from the left side to the right side of 119 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: Miss Trubisky. A little fake hand out there and they 120 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 3: flip it out. They faked the handoff to the left 121 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: and flipped it out to the right there to Hayward 122 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: on the screen. That was Hayward the screen right. I 123 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 3: think so I was watching the defensive player that made 124 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: the play there, and I think that was It was 125 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 3: really good pursuit by the Yeah, that was Leal And 126 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: it makes perfect sense because he ran like a smaller 127 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,679 Speaker 3: athletic d tackle and a very Cam Hayward like fashion 128 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: tracking down a screen across the other side of the field. 129 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: Play by Leo. 130 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: I know he didn't test as well as I think 131 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: I thought. 132 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: I just don't think he's a good tester. 133 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have him. 134 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: Not seen a guy who's on athletic at all. No, 135 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: I mean he was a five star recruit. I mean 136 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: the way he played tod, A and M, especially early 137 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 3: in his career, there as an edge as an interior dude. 138 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: Athleticism is not a problem with him. Yeah, maybe he 139 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 3: just didn't. 140 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: There were a lot of people in the like if 141 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: you looked at the pre season draft stuff the year 142 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: he came out, Oh, he was just like a Yeah, 143 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 2: he was the number one defensive tackle in that CLIs Yeah. 144 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. He had a lot of pedigree. Yeah yeah 145 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: at A and M, and nobody questioned his athleticism. Yeah. 146 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: And then he goes out and he tests him. Well, 147 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 2: he doesn't run well, he doesn't jump well. 148 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, and he's also a bit of a tweeener 149 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 3: for a lot of defenses. 150 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't even know about that anymore. Everyone use everybody. Yeah, 151 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 2: they listen them. At two hundred ninety pounds, that's plenty 152 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: big enough played defensive tackle. I'm pretty much every team. Yeah, yeah, 153 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: you know, unless you're. 154 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 3: You know, I think he was lighter than that of 155 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 3: his combine. 156 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,239 Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure he did that to get faster. 157 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, and that that experiment didn't work 158 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: great for him. So the Steelers get him maybe a 159 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 3: round later than you would have. 160 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, pre snapped a nice kickout block, couldn't you, Rochet. 161 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 3: There was some immediate pressure to force that into the 162 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 3: teeth of the d Yeah, he did a nice job there. 163 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 3: I'm trying to concentrate more on the defense, and like everybody, 164 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: I get guilty of looking at the motion and Kendrick. 165 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: Green right right right. 166 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 3: But the way the defense is playing today, I think 167 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: they deserve a lot of credit. 168 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: They'll fired up. Yeah, they'll fire it up. 169 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: They're getting up blocks harder, they're tackling to the ground, 170 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: they're bouncing up, and I mean they're they're praid to play. 171 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, which is what you want to see. You know, 172 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: if I made mention you mentioned the cafeteria yesterday, as 173 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: I was in line at the cafeteria, saw Alex Heismith there, 174 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: and as you mentioned, there was a delineation between the 175 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: offense and defense. What they can have for dinner? 176 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: Right right? There was a reward. 177 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: It was a reward. And I said to to Alex, 178 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: I'm my coach, did you guys a little dirty here 179 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: on the defense? I said, you guys won seven shots 180 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: and that stuff all last week and then the day 181 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: that the day that the offense wins it and it 182 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 2: was decisive. It was six to one. Yeah, that that's 183 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: the day he decides to have the offense gets the 184 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 2: the winner of that event gets you know, the the 185 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: better meal. 186 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: And he goes, yeah, man, that's your probably do us 187 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 3: a little dirty there. It's a pretty good point. 188 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: But again it's a motivating factor without question. You know, 189 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: when you see all your you know, you see all 190 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: the the offensive guys having steak and lobster and you're 191 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 2: eating chicken and potatoes. Not that it's not good chicken. 192 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 3: There's good stuff there, trust me. The soup, salad bar, 193 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: everything's just fine by me. But it's not staking lobster, right, 194 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a status thing, you know obviously. 195 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 3: I mean it's pride, it's pride. Yeah, it's competition, that's 196 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 3: all it's all about. Coach is great at creating competition 197 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 3: and it goes a long way. And just keeping these guys. 198 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 3: You hear a lot of national folks. I mean, Daniel 199 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 3: Jeremiah comes to mind, but there's plenty that I respect 200 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 3: that come here once a year and go oh, I 201 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: kind of forgot that they run practices a little different 202 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,119 Speaker 3: than everybody else. That there's constant talk, there's constant challenges, 203 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: you know, the competition, tackling to the ground. I know 204 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 3: it's not Joe Green, you know too a days in 205 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 3: the hot sun, but by today's NFL standards, these are 206 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 3: pretty intense practices. 207 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got two pollers there. 208 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 3: That another nice play there by the defense there that was. 209 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 2: Sifting through that. There were two blockers coming through that. 210 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: I thought that was gonna be a big gainer, and 211 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 3: he split the two and I don't think any of 212 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: them did anything wrong. He just read that perfectly and 213 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 3: split that scene and was able to nullify what would 214 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 3: have been probably a big game. 215 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, some of that. Maybe you know, it's one 216 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: of the the you know backs who are a little 217 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: lower on the Yeah. 218 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. 219 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 2: I gotta believe if like Jaylen Warren hits that, it's 220 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: you know, bigger any of the top three probably. 221 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah. Really, there's a lot of running roup 222 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 3: in terms of uh going to special teams now yeah, a. 223 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: Little special teams actually happening now here. 224 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 3: So uh have you got Mike, I'm sorry, you have 225 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 3: you got word? How they might end practice today two 226 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 3: minutes or any of that good stuff. 227 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: I would imagine that they usually you two minutes in 228 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: this situation. 229 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 3: I thought, so, yeah, you know, particularly you might want 230 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: to get uh, you know, Tanner. I was wonderful Morgan 231 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 3: would get some standard Morgan maybe a two minute situation 232 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 3: in case he's going to finish that game. I would 233 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 3: think you get Mason Rudolph one here as well. So 234 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 3: maybe you have Pickett to one and Rudolph or something 235 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: like that. Maybe Trubisky gets the short end of the sea. 236 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 2: Right, you just say, hey, Mitch, you're not going to 237 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: be in there at the end of a half, right, 238 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. Uh. Mike Tollman was asked about, 239 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 2: you know, playing his starters in the pre season, and 240 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: he said, look, I firmly believe it's just something I believe. 241 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: I see. I understand other teams don't do it. They 242 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: don't play any of their starters. They sit those guys, 243 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: he said, But I believe that you have to do 244 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 2: that to get ready to play. He said, you know, 245 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: if you're a boxer, you got a spar. 246 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand the logic behind it. I mean, I 247 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 3: think I'm not sure there's a right or wrong answer. 248 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 3: To be very honest with you, and I think a 249 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: lot of it is knowing the pulse of your team. 250 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: When he kind of said that too, he said, look, 251 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 2: every team's different exactly. You know, there's I don't you 252 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 2: don't go in this with a hard fast set of rules. 253 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 2: So well, we always play these you know, these guys 254 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: play the first quarter of this game. They played the 255 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: four you know, full half the second game. It depends 256 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 2: on your team. 257 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and even in the Ben era, you know, when 258 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 3: he was in his prime, it wasn't like he played 259 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 3: just one quarter every year. I mean every year was 260 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: a little different, depending on situation, depending on the guys, 261 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: no doubt about it. And the other thing about it, 262 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,599 Speaker 3: like people don't look at this, but when when's the 263 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 3: first game? I mean three weeks from now, right, Okay, 264 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: in three weeks every offensive lineman and Kenny Pickett is 265 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 3: going to play every snap for the first time since 266 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 3: last year, you know, against Bosa and Hargrave and Fred Warner, 267 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. So even if you play quite 268 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 3: a bit in the preseason, it's not an every snap game, 269 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 3: you know that week one for every play in right, right, 270 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 3: you're not rotating like you can on defense or at 271 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: wide receiver or running back. So those six guys are 272 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: playing every snap and that's you know, taxing. 273 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, I still thought it was interesting. He said. 274 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: He was asked about the new kickoff rule, and he said, 275 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 2: you know, we're more interested in any chance, any opportunity 276 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: we get to have a return. We're going to do it. 277 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: Any opportunity we have to get a kickoff and watch 278 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: those guys run down. We're going to do it because 279 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: I'm not He's He's like. 280 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 3: He's not just talking about the preseason. Yeah, okay, No, no, 281 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 3: he's talking about the preseason. Okay, I'm not worried about 282 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 3: seeing how that rule works. Good, good, I'm worried about 283 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: I want to see what my coverage units look like. 284 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 3: I want to suit my return units look like. I'm 285 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 3: sure Danny smith Is doesn't need his kickoff. Her team 286 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 3: holding his hand in the air catching a kick, and 287 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 3: then everybody just drogs the sideline. Right, what you learned 288 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 3: from that? Right? 289 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 2: You know it's different in this preseason game. If you 290 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: see whoever they put back the return kicks, Uh, he 291 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 2: catches the ball eight yards deep in the end zone 292 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: and brings it out. 293 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 3: That doesn't mean to do it. Yeah, they want to 294 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 3: see some stuff. Yeah, yeah, every team should do that. 295 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 2: They want to see it surprises me. It shocks me 296 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: every year when that doesn't happen. 297 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 3: It shocks me every year when any team on purpose 298 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 3: in the preseason kicks the ball, Like, what are you doing? 299 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: I mean, this is an opportunity to get better. 300 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 2: Because the problem is is as it works special teams here, 301 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,119 Speaker 2: you can't really go live with that stuff. 302 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 3: Kind of you're don't have eleven guys run down the 303 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 3: field and collide and blow up a returner. Yeah, I 304 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 3: mean that's looking to and that's why they're changing these rules. 305 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 3: That's stuffs dangerous and whar's the out? So punts are 306 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 3: a little different. I mean, I'm telling my punt returner, 307 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 3: unless you're in danger, return to kick. But I don't 308 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 3: need you taking one in the chin just to try 309 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 3: to impress me with the air, you know what I mean? 310 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: Like if you will say this, I mean I can 311 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: remember when Stefan Logan made this roster in the preseason 312 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: with a return like that. 313 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: Okay, you know I shouldn't have. 314 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: He had a couple of big returns and it's like, 315 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 2: oh okay, So you know if if you're a guy 316 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: so gunneral Chefsky's backer taking this punch right now, he's 317 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: back there with with Calvin Austin. 318 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 3: Like birds a perfect example. And yeah, I got to 319 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 3: get two of these all preseason. I'm gonna make it. 320 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna make it. I gotta make the most of it. 321 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I hear you. And and 322 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 3: that's there's a lot to be said for that. But 323 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 3: don't put yourself in danger, especially if you're Calvin Austin 324 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 3: in the situation. But right, but those guys have to 325 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 3: what's interesting about the preseason in general is every one 326 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 3: of these players, well I guess not the Cam Haywards 327 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 3: of the world. Well, I guess everybody has to look 328 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 3: at every play from a team perspect but also an 329 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 3: individual perspective too. You know what's best for me? How 330 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 3: do I make this team? How do I get the 331 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 3: week one in the best case possible to help the team? 332 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: You know. 333 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 3: So everyone is a little bit different agenda because they're 334 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 3: all different human beings. But over all, the coaches I'm 335 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 3: sure are going to say go as live as possible 336 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 3: on special teams, I mean, kicking out of the end 337 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 3: zone makes me bumpers. 338 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I see it every preseason and I'm like, I 339 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: don't get what's what you're gaining out of that. I 340 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: would want to see what my return guys can do. 341 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 3: I mean, you're really protecting your kickoff return team that 342 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 3: much you don't want them getting hurt. I mean that's 343 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: the only logic I could hear, and I just don't 344 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 3: get that. 345 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: In and I don't know that you can see what 346 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: you need to see. Well, they all ran down in 347 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: the right lanes. Well, yeah, because the ball wasn't coming 348 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: out because they could see it was. 349 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 3: Kicked out, and then they jogged the last It's easy 350 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 3: to see. 351 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: Oh they you guys all, good job. You stay in 352 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: your lanes. 353 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 3: Right. 354 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: Well, now, what do you do when the ball's coming 355 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: back out at you and. 356 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 3: There's a guy changing the direction? You go to get 357 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 3: him on the ground and defeat blocks and all that stuff. 358 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 3: Right that we kind of did in practice, but not 359 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 3: really right we repped. 360 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: It, but you know, sure, so that kind of drives me. 361 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: I'm also interested. You know, so the Baltimore Ravens have 362 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: won like twenty one consecutive preseason game. Yeah, right, right, 363 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: that's not a fluke it's not a fluke. But I 364 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: don't know that it matters either. 365 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 3: No, I don't either. Preseason record means very very little 366 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 3: to me. They seem to be the only team that 367 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 3: truly cares about it, you know, I mean deep down, 368 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 3: and every coach will be like, oh, it's a good win, 369 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 3: or you know, oh, we got to work on it. 370 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 3: We lost, we'll learn something. But deep down, I don't 371 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 3: think anyone cares what your preseason record is, including the building, 372 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 3: I mean, including the locker room. 373 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: No, it's about getting the good work in what you 374 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: put on film. No, obviously, you don't want to go 375 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: out there and play poorly. No, it doesn't. That doesn't 376 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: you'd rather win. Yeah, I mean you're gonna play a game, 377 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: you'd rather win it. But sure, you know the idea that, oh, 378 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: twenty one consecutive wins, that's that's impressive. It really isn't. 379 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 3: No, it really isn't. I mean, if it means you're 380 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 3: keeping your twos in in the fourth quarter against fours, 381 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 3: that's you know, that's not a great accomplishment, you know that. 382 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's Alabama beating up Alabama State and in 383 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 3: week one, right, Okay, great, you should win all those Yeah, 384 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 3: but what was I gonna say on one of those lines. 385 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 3: I don't remember it dawn on me later, something brilliant, 386 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 3: I'm sure, I'm sure. Right. 387 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 2: Steelers still working on some special teams here as they 388 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 2: get ready to play preseason game number one on Friday, 389 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: that is down in Tampa. We'll see, uh see what 390 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: kind of how many Steeler fans come in for that one. 391 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 3: I mean it'd be a good, good spot here. It's 392 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 3: a fun, fun location. 393 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, you see the guys on the other side here 394 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 2: is we're getting some of the gunners over there and 395 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 2: they're gonna work on the they get the soccer balls, 396 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: they're gonna keep out the ball, Yeah, keeping the ball 397 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: out of the end zone. Get you don't have a 398 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 2: bunch of guys standing around. Obviously, the linemen kind of 399 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 2: can't do much here. 400 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 3: No, they're not doing a hold out right now. 401 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, I do like how they make you proper 402 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 2: use of all this time, just to make sure you 403 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 2: get a little bit of time on everything. 404 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, and what's funny is they have to use a 405 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 3: soccer ball because footballs don't exactly bounce, right. Yeah, you 406 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 3: just want to be able to go up the football 407 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 3: with because if you notice, with this drill, they start 408 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 3: with their back to the ball, so they got to 409 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 3: find the ball instantly. Really working on your eyes a 410 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 3: great deal, flipping your hips around, just trying to knock 411 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 3: this thing out. 412 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, the little matrix style there can tort your body 413 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 2: and get the ball out of the end zone. We're 414 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 2: gonna take a break. He is Matt Williamson. I am 415 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: Dale Lowlly. 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He is Matt Williamson, 424 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 2: and this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and 425 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 2: ESPN nine seventy are live ongoing coverage from Steelers training 426 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: camp practices here at Saint Fencing College. You get a 427 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 2: little eleven on eleven third down work going on here 428 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 2: and the the offense going a little. 429 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 3: Bit better in this yeah, i'mso the nice play while 430 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 3: we were break he did. Yeah. 431 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: Again, he's he's looked good. 432 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 3: I worried that he might be hitting the point of 433 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 3: his career where he's a slow twitch kind of position, 434 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 3: old man game. But he moves around here a lot 435 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 3: better than I expected, to be very honest with you, 436 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 3: it comes in I his breaks after the catch, you know, 437 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 3: so that was a really good example. He kind of 438 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 3: did a Maverick move there and slammed on the brakes, 439 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: let everybody kind of drift past him, and you know, 440 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 3: broke the inside. So he's still a pretty good player. 441 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, he's said crafty and knows how to 442 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: get opened and knows how to Again that the catch 443 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: that he had, the run after the catch that he 444 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: created right right, you know, that was. 445 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: That was that translates to real Sunday football. 446 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, absolutely, So. I think he's going to 447 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 2: be a good addition. You know. I know some people 448 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 2: are concerned about something maybe a little bit of the 449 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: wide receiver depth. I don't know what the Steelers are. 450 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 3: I don't either. I mean, I think Pickens is becoming 451 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 3: a more complete receiver in front of our eyes. I 452 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 3: think he's getting more separation riding, you know, running a 453 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 3: wider variety of routes. Deonta's Deontay, And. 454 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 2: You could see the difference with like they had receivers 455 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: running routes. They had two quarterbacks throwing on different sides. 456 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 2: They'd split the field down the middle, and so they 457 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: had received it on one side running a route receiver 458 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 2: on the other side, they were running the same route. 459 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: And you watch Deontay run the route, yeah, like a 460 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: mirror drow. It was like a mirror drow. And you 461 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 2: watch Deontay running, you watch the guy who was whoever 462 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 2: was opposite him running. It was like, oh, that's the difference. 463 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, you watch anyone here, frankly, anyone in 464 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 3: the stands, if they would focus on Deontay, Ver's any 465 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 3: of the other receivers, including Pickens, run routes, it's just 466 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 3: a little different. Just sharper breakdown. He's smaller than Pickens, 467 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: of course, but I mean just a simple out route 468 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 3: or a comeback. I mean he's just sharper and it's 469 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 3: really rare change direction. He's a very very good route runner. 470 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, But I look at that wide receiver room 471 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 2: and you know, you start looking at maybe who's going 472 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 2: to be the fifth or six guys there, and they 473 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: get a lot of a lot of guys in competition 474 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 2: for that. 475 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 3: And frankly, just because Austin and Robinson are here, that's 476 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 3: two every week contributors that he didn't have last year. 477 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 3: Yeah right, you know what I mean. 478 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, he kind of remade that a little bit. I 479 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 2: do think so. Mike Tomlan said it again today. Yeah, 480 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: he stuck that one in there. Yeah it was Mitch 481 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 2: and yeah, Gunner ol Chefsky, he's done some good stuff 482 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 2: here too. 483 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 3: He is deep in breaking route right inside the numbers there. 484 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: I like to, you know, this area of the field 485 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 3: day attack there about twenty yards downfield. 486 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: But when Mike Tomlin and he said it again today 487 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: at his press conference, make the routine plays routine? 488 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? 489 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 2: Did you know everybody thinks that football is all about 490 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 2: the highlight plays and things of that nature. Sure, I 491 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: immediately thought, is he talking about George. 492 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 3: Pickens, I say, yeah, we've been doing this too long. 493 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 3: I immediately thought, boy, the highlights stuff's great for him, 494 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: but is he making the routine routine. I'd have to 495 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 3: study every route, but it looks better than they used. 496 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 2: To Yeah, so, you know, I think that's a big 497 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: part of it. Mason Rudolph out there now taking the 498 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: snap here in a shotgun and he drops back flips 499 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: across the middle there too. Keem Butler another one of 500 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 2: those receivers who is battling for a spot. 501 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 3: Here that's in the mix. 502 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to see. That's why the special team 503 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 2: stuff is so important. No, No, that can help settle 504 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: who's that fifth receiver, who's that sixth receiver? Because these guys, 505 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: you know, you watch them run routes out here and 506 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 2: things of that nature. I see, I see a lot 507 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 2: of good stuff. I see some bad stuff, you know, 508 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 2: maybe a drop or something here, they didn't get good separation, 509 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 2: whatever it may be. But that spot comes down to 510 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 2: which one of you guys can play special teams, which 511 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: way contributes on that group the most. 512 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, when they when they meet for final cuts as 513 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 3: a team, maybe the wide receiver, coach, offensive coordinator, and 514 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 3: head coach all say, Butler and boy can are about 515 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 3: the same to me. Yeah, So Danny, who you like better? 516 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 3: Comes down? 517 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: Okay, you know, Danny, which one of these guys can't 518 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: you live without? 519 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? 520 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: Or which one of them does more for you, and 521 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 2: but it's never that easy. 522 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 3: Usually it's one of them is a six out of 523 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 3: a ten, the other ones a five out of ten 524 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 3: on offense, but the five out of ten is a 525 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 3: better special team er. Now, how much do we weigh 526 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 3: X versus Y? You know what I mean? It's rarely 527 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 3: as easy as that is. 528 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: One of these guys one of your core special teamers. 529 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said, can you live without him or 530 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 3: can you live with this other guy? Yeah? Right, you 531 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 3: don't quite like as much like I don't know if 532 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 3: I can live with them, coach. 533 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough. I mean, that's all part of it. 534 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 2: It really is difficult. 535 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 3: And if a guy like Butler ends up on the 536 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 3: practice squad, there's a good chance he at some point 537 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 3: you see him during the season. 538 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Rudolph going back to take the shotgun snap again, 539 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 2: it we get some motion from left to right by 540 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 2: the tight end there and takes the snap. Good pass, 541 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: us should pass rush right. Connor Hayward laid out on 542 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 2: that one. That wasn't Connor Hayward, who is it? No? No, 543 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: that's a eighty seven. Again, he almost got his hands 544 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 2: on it, but he couldn't hold it. 545 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 3: In there. 546 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 2: Mus came up the middle just totally touch oh just yeah, 547 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 2: just he came flying up the middle. But yeah, Rodney 548 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 2: Williams just couldn't haul that one in. He he had 549 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: sat down and well Rudolph had to get rid of 550 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: the football because yeah, yeah, hit scream the middle of 551 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: the space. Okay, get the h again. The shotgun here 552 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: about third and seven, gets motion from H left to 553 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 2: right and defense shows blitz again, they're coming again. Paul 554 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 2: get held up nicely, and. 555 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 3: Yeah he did. He was able to hold the ball 556 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 3: and pat it for a second before getting it out, 557 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 3: but still incomplete. 558 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was uh, the diminutive Jordan Bird who could. 559 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 3: Not hold that. I'm sorry, and frankly I might picking 560 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: on Jordan Bird, but the SAME's true for Calvin Austin 561 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 3: if he's in probably complete. 562 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, your catch just isn't as big. And that's one 563 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 2: of the problems with the little lot receiver, right right, 564 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: I mean, the quarterback has to be super precise. You know, 565 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: your your arms aren't as long, your hands aren't as big, 566 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 2: You're just not as big a target. And that was 567 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 2: one that was just slightly outside the strike zone. That 568 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: if it's pickings or somebody like that would have been 569 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 2: in the catching ratio. Okay, it looks like we're going 570 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 2: back to some first and intent action here offense versus defense, unless. 571 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 3: This is a more ones versus ones live. 572 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 2: I wonder if this is a two minute situation. Good 573 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 2: question where it is where they're placing the ball. They're 574 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 2: putting it at the thirty nine. That's usually right in 575 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 2: that area where they do a little two. 576 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 3: Minutry, right right, It's about that portion though. 577 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, well no, if they start moving the the change 578 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 2: here on this one. 579 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and plus how they handle things, they huddle and 580 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 3: all that good stuff too. 581 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 2: Definitely got ones against ones here. Oh he's got a 582 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 2: nausea in the flat. If he wants them there, it is, 583 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: it takes it and that would have been a nice 584 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 2: about an eight yard game. 585 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, if not more, maybe he drags them for the 586 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 3: first down. But see if they move it here. Yeah, 587 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 3: they flip, they flipped at the seconds, but they start 588 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 3: keeping the ball there. 589 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're just doing some situational stuff here. Okay, 590 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 2: so then they're making that second and five. 591 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,719 Speaker 3: Okay, so maybe they scripted out the down and distance beforehand. 592 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 3: No matter what the play result is so this is 593 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 3: not too minute. 594 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: This might be some of you just to hey, here's 595 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 2: some base stuff. 596 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 3: We're gonna run in the game, and they're not tackling 597 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 3: to the ground apparently, Yeah, yeah, especially ones ors just one. Yeah, 598 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 3: well you. 599 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 2: Got Gunner out there too, Cody White, Gunner and Cody 600 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 2: White with Alan Robinson. 601 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 3: Now yeah, it's just not the top receiving. 602 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 2: Nausea Harris in the backfield, get a little inside motion 603 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 2: there by Robinson, and then a run by nausea Harris. 604 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 3: I wonder if Back Canada scripted this out like first intent, 605 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 3: I want to try this on second and five. I'm 606 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 3: gonna try this. This is gonna be first and ten again. 607 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 3: They're going back to first and ten now right right? 608 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 3: Scripted out is all like it doesn't matter what the 609 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 3: result is. I'm gonna pretend like it's second and five. 610 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, just put them in those situations, and 611 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 2: for the defense, you have to know the situation as well. 612 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 2: You're gonna play second five much different then you're gonna 613 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: play first and ten. Of course, of course, so lots 614 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: to be a glean. There's pet Friarmouth comes off. Who 615 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: we got in there? Okay, you get Pickens, you get Robinson, 616 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson on the upper side. 617 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 3: There, we got a big dog, a bunch package out there. 618 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: Is that Hayward behind lined up behind? 619 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 3: I think so, yeah, just body type, Yeah, yeah it is, 620 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 3: it is And they run into him that one that 621 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 3: Watt fellow blew things up again. 622 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 2: But even after that, so the play would have been. 623 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 3: A sack, but right been a negative player pick He. 624 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 2: Continues with the play. Deontay Johnson comes across the field 625 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: in that drag route about about a fifteen yard drag 626 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 2: route with two guys trailing him, and Pickings dropped it 627 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: in there, rolling. 628 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 3: To his left, right right. I mean, it's still an 629 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 3: impressive play by both Johnson and especially Picket. But what 630 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 3: blew the thing up? You know what I mean, as 631 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 3: he often does. So what we got going here? I 632 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 3: think I think I's a Kendrick Green out there. 633 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: Looks like it's about second and seven here in the 634 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: battlefield behind him there in the yeah, straight full back 635 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 2: action here, get a little motion from firemouth from the 636 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: outside to the inside that makes that a strong side 637 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 2: and they run that way decent hole there. 638 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 3: And yeah, I was keying on Green and you know 639 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 3: he was a pure lead fullback on that one. He 640 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,479 Speaker 3: was in a full back position but offset and they 641 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 3: ran right behind him and the hole was pretty nice, 642 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 3: and Green couldn't find anybody to block, you know, he's 643 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 3: just looking looking for uh. 644 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 2: Post and got the kickout to steal the outside and 645 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: and Dan Moore got the kick inside to seal that. 646 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: And Green's kind of like okay. 647 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, just kind of no man's land, just running around. 648 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: That's what you want to do with you. 649 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 3: That's great, that's great. 650 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: Everybody did their job. 651 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 3: Now. I know it's not live, live, you know, true 652 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 3: game action, but friar Mouth looks like an improved blocker 653 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 3: both he passed in especially run blocking to me. 654 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: That he does he's gotten stronger his legs. My goodness. Yeah, 655 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: you see him up close? Who I mean, there're tree trunks. 656 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 657 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 2: We get the second team in there now, Roderck Jones 658 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 2: at left tackle. We get a little motion there from 659 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 2: Calvin Austin. He gets ended to him on a jet 660 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: sweep and a nice job over there by Barku. 661 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 3: I believe that, Yes, he's stayed at home, made the 662 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 3: play that had been a short game. Yeah, keep him 663 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 3: honest with us you gotta hand it off once in 664 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 3: a while on the jet. 665 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: Sweep Barcoo does a little something every day, every day, 666 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: every day. 667 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 3: Not bad first day or two. I'm okay, I guess 668 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 3: I should pay attention to him. And he's not making 669 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 3: him you know, he's not making the team. Blah blah blah. Yeah. 670 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 3: Now it's like he might be an injury away from 671 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 3: making the team. Yeah, with a good preseason. 672 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: With Corey Trice right, you know, going down that opens 673 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: up a spot there. And he's running with the second 674 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: unit right now opposite James Pierre. So obviously the coaching 675 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: staff thinks he's doing a pretty good job as well. 676 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm checking out his height and Wade. I just 677 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 3: want to he is, uh not a small corner. I 678 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 3: say he's more of an outside guy. I didn't know 679 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 3: how heavy he was. 680 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: Okay, throw yeah, good throw there. 681 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 3: White in the millfield. 682 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 2: Dotson, Uh looks like he's playing right guard there on 683 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,239 Speaker 2: this one and he get out to the outside there 684 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: that they had it. There was an outside rush there 685 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: and he came out to pick it up from the 686 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: guard spot. 687 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 3: So well done bringing in Gunner and Boycoen number two. 688 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 3: Oh line, that's. 689 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 2: Really what I'm kind of intrigued to see. I know 690 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 2: everybody wants to see Progerick Jones in the first preseason game. 691 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 2: That second offensive line is get a lot of starts 692 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 2: on there. 693 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I meant to say this before that with three 694 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 3: experienced NFL quarterbacks and two NFL offensive lines, you know 695 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 3: what I mean, like guys that are going to make 696 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 3: the team, I would expect the second half of preseason 697 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 3: games to really favor the Steelers offense. 698 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 2: See there's that was that one right there. So they 699 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 2: did a little jet sweep motion across the formation and 700 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: then he saw Trubisky hand the ball off and Warren 701 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 2: took it to the right, and then Trubisky ran to 702 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 2: his left as well, and it froze the outside linebackers. 703 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 2: And that's what you're trying to do with that jet 704 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 2: sweep motion. 705 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 3: Because we see so much roll out. You know that's 706 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 3: you You're trained to see that too. Yeah. So I 707 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 3: don't know if that was the best example because I 708 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 3: was watching other things. To be honest, you watched that 709 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 3: play a little closer than I did. Offensively, but they 710 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 3: do so much motion and quarterback waggles and boots and 711 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 3: stuff like that. That that can work the same way 712 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 3: as play action without taking that half a second to 713 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 3: stick the ball in somebody's belly and vake it, you 714 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 3: know what I mean. 715 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 2: Right, And your quarterbacks are athletic enough to do that, right. 716 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 3: Right, They definitely don't want statues back there now. 717 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: So we get the base three four Tribisky under center 718 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 2: here fakes the hand up. 719 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 3: There's the waggle. Yeah, well played by two eight. 720 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 2: Killer Brew and Hayward was not happy about being tackled 721 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 2: to the ground on that one. Yeah, kind of tossed 722 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 2: the ball at Killer Brew at the end of that play. 723 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, a little. It was a little aggressive by Killer Brew, 724 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 3: I will say. Yeah, that play was dead pretty much 725 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 3: from the start. Is a short completion, but for little 726 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 3: or no gain. 727 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Calibrew closed on that quickly. 728 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 3: He rerote that he read it all the way. 729 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 2: And again that's you know that some of the It's 730 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: also the value of having veteran backups as opposed to 731 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 2: a bunch of rookies or young guys. You know, like 732 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 2: he's seen he's probably seen that play a thousand times 733 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 2: in his career. 734 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 3: Right, I mean, safeties have keys, they have rules, and 735 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 3: he knows them. Like the back of his hand because 736 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 3: he's been doing it forever. 737 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 2: That's a blitz. 738 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 3: That came opened up. Yeah, that was Duke Dawson on 739 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 3: the slot. That definitely would have put pressure on the quarterback. 740 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 2: Another tackle to the ground here. Do you guys do know? 741 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 2: They play a game in two days? 742 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 3: Right? No one seems to be too concerned. 743 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 2: About that today. 744 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 3: Hey, I get it. 745 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 2: I mean, Mike Toman is this is a physical camp 746 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 2: as you will see. 747 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 3: In the NFL. Yeah, it's definitely true. You mentioned Cam 748 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 3: Hayward and company weren't thrilled with the defense today. Weren't 749 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,239 Speaker 3: not yesterday. I bet the head coach wasn't either. By 750 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 3: the sounds of this practice, I think. 751 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 2: He was pretty happy though, Like he was challenging guy. 752 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 3: He likes to push those buttons. Now he's a master 753 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 3: at it. 754 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 2: He likes to push those buttons and you know, basically 755 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 2: tell the offense. Hey, you guys, you guys want it yesterday. 756 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 2: You think Cam's gonna be happy about that? He's gonna 757 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 2: be mad. How are you gonna handle him? So, Mason 758 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 2: Rudolphin company in there now with the third group, We're 759 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 2: gonna take a break here. Matt Williamson. Yeah, I am 760 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 2: Dale Lawley. You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers 761 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy are live ongoing coverage 762 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 2: from Saint Vincent College, he Steelers training camp. They're taking 763 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 2: part in practice number twelve today. Did I say it 764 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 2: was I've lost? I think so, yeah, but we're gonna 765 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 2: take a break. We'll be back with more right after 766 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 2: this some time. 767 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: The Black and Gold live here twenty four to seven. 768 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: This is is Steelers Nation, Lady Pittsburgh. 769 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 2: Welcome back, guy and Dale Alli. He is Matt Williamson, 770 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 2: and this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio in 771 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 2: ESPN nine seventy And you know, Matt, we get we 772 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 2: get out there at training camp and I missed completely, 773 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 2: like the real world, what's going on now? Pulling back 774 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 2: the curtain here in my dorm room. I don't have 775 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 2: a TV. No, I don't either, so I, you know, 776 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 2: I sit and listen to music while I'm working when 777 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: I'm off the you know, off the air here. And 778 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 2: I didn't realize that the town of Lahina in Maui 779 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,720 Speaker 2: and there were the huge wildfires in the Hawaiian Islands 780 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 2: right now. 781 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 3: I had no idea I'm not particularly good about knowing 782 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 3: things outside the NFL, no matter what my circumstances are. 783 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 2: This makes narrow things in. 784 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 3: My friends make fun of me. It's just Matt's world 785 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 3: and I don't know anything else in the world. But 786 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 3: usually people tell me such things, and nobody tells you 787 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 3: those things when you're here. 788 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I mean, I went on vacation there 789 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, and in his couple of 790 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 2: years ago. Now it was last year, last year, I 791 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 2: think it was last year, last year, and you know, 792 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 2: we had had drinks in on our last day there 793 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 2: and watched the waves come in, watch the surfers, and 794 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 2: you were just describing it, and I was sitting there thinking, 795 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 2: practice is nice, but I watching twenty five foot waves 796 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 2: and surfers with a island drink in my hand would 797 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 2: be better than it was great. 798 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great. 799 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 2: We found a nice spot with a balcony, there's pizza 800 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 2: pizza joints, and just watched the surfers go crazy. 801 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 3: I could do that. Yeah, we'll sneak over there. 802 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 2: Well, well it's not there anymore, right, let's not the 803 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 2: best destination, probably not. Yeah, but our you know, thoughts 804 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 2: go out to those people who are dealing with that. 805 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 2: I mean I guess they had to like evacuate the 806 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 2: whole city, and. 807 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, especially since you were just there and saw it 808 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 3: all and it probably hits home a little bit. 809 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful. 810 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 3: It's funny you mentioned though, like you know, our dorm 811 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 3: rooms are not exactly our living or like, yeah, not 812 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 3: exactly our lazy boy at home and the big screen 813 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,720 Speaker 3: and surround sound and all that. But there is internet. 814 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 3: You know, we are under a rock. Yeah right right, 815 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 3: I mean it's times are changed, but it's just a mindset, 816 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 3: like you're just not at home. You don't think about things. 817 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 3: There's a groundhog day mentality, even for you. 818 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 2: I said to somebody, I feel like a hamster on 819 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 2: a wheel. Yeah. 820 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, the restaur up. 821 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 2: I do the same thing over and over again. 822 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 3: I check what day it is over and over again. Tuesday, Wednesday, 823 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 3: Thursday are really all the same. 824 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 2: If I wasn't traveling tomorrow, I wouldn't have no idea, right. 825 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 3: Right, I think about it like I think today's garbage 826 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 3: day at home. I better tell the kids to drag 827 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 3: it out or no, that was two days ago. 828 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 2: I missed that up right, Yeah, just so it didn't 829 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 2: get done. 830 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 3: I'm sure there'll be eighty pounds of garbage there for 831 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 3: when I get home. Someone dragged this to the street. Uh, okay, 832 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 3: I'll get it. 833 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 2: Save that for dad. I was surprised my grass got 834 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 2: so the first day we went back. After being out 835 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 2: here a week, I went back. We were off on Monday. 836 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 2: I go back. I mode the grass this time. I 837 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 2: went back. At the end of the second week, I 838 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 2: went back and somebody had mowed the grass. 839 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 3: What a pleasant thought that I was. 840 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 2: I was all prepared to get home. In fact, we 841 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 2: got home, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna get home. I'm 842 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 2: gonna have to get up tomorrow and more grass. I 843 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 2: got home, I saw somebody mode the grass. It was 844 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 2: just it was such a relief. 845 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 3: See, I'm I'm a bad father because as a sixteen 846 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 3: year old, I was an expert mower, and I made 847 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 3: a lot of money on the side mowing in the 848 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 3: neighborhood and all that good stuff. And my son's not 849 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 3: so great at sixteen. So we have like this upper 850 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 3: lot that no one ever sees that I hate the mow. 851 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 3: Mike go do that. I do the spots where like 852 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 3: the rest of the world can see, because I don't 853 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 3: want splotches of misspots all over the place and dead 854 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 3: grass all over the neighborhood. So I'm sure that doesn't 855 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 3: get done when I'm gone. But I do send texts 856 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 3: from here like, hey, make sure the upper lots mode. 857 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,439 Speaker 3: And I think it is, you know, and doesn't even 858 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,879 Speaker 3: matter if he stinks at it. Yeah, so there's that. 859 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 2: I've been to your house several times. I've ever been 860 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 2: to the upper lot. 861 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 3: There's nothing to see though. It's just a giant waste 862 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 3: of space that used to it with an old trampoline 863 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 3: and a shed. Anyone wants a trampoline, come and get it. 864 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 2: Anyways. The Steelers taking part in practice here at Saint 865 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 2: Fencing College. You're working little punt stuff right now. It's 866 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 2: more for the return. Again, these are important things to 867 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 2: go over one last time here. 868 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 3: Before you got a game coming up. 869 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 2: Before the game, go over your blocking schemes and those 870 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 2: kind of things. 871 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 3: It's a bad look even the preseason when you blow 872 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 3: a blocking scheme in the punt game or you know 873 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 3: they'll communicate yea topless You don't. 874 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 2: Want to see that kind of stuff happen. Right and again, 875 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 2: a lot of these guys haven't done this stuff. 876 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 3: No, a lot of these guys have not done this stuff. Again, 877 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 3: so many of these dudes were huge fish in a 878 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 3: small pond at college. Some of them were huge fish 879 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 3: in a huge pond, you know. And they just don't 880 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 3: play special teams. It's new to them. And then probably 881 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 3: none of them or not none, but very few played 882 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 3: in high school. 883 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean, you just didn't have to do 884 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 2: it a whole long shit did it in like ninth grade? 885 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 3: I mean, like, look at the the quote offensive line here. 886 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 3: Those guys aren't offensive linemen. 887 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean they're all wearing yellow denoting. 888 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 3: The fact that they've never passed set in their life, 889 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 3: and now they have to pass set for a tick 890 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 3: and a half and then turn and run down and 891 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 3: make a tackle. The turn and run make a tackle 892 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 3: part is okay for the defensive players, but pass setting 893 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 3: in against NFL semi pass rushers, I mean, they don't 894 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 3: have any clue what they're doing now. 895 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 2: Not so much in a situation like this in a 896 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 2: preseason game, but I know for a fact, during regular 897 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 2: season games, Danny Smith will study that tape and try 898 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 2: to find out where's the weak spots are at. 899 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 3: That's all they do. 900 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, he puts the opposing specially. What he does is 901 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 2: he puts together his Saturday tape, right, and he gives 902 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 2: that to the players on Tuesday, I believe it is, 903 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 2: gives them their Saturday tape. They're expected to watch it 904 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 2: several times, and then they go over it again on 905 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 2: Saturday night before the game again highlighting some of those Okay, 906 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 2: we might be able to take advantage of this. They 907 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 2: do this when they line up here, this is where 908 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 2: they're kicking the ball and that kind of stuff. 909 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 3: Oh, there's huge tendencies, just like offensive defense. And just 910 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 3: talk about that punt team. That quote offensive line is 911 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 3: five guys, there's a long snapper and four non offensive linemen. Well, 912 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 3: Danny might look at the left guard for the Niners 913 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 3: in that situation, be like this, dude's a really good tackler. 914 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 3: That's why he's on the punt team. He can't protect 915 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 3: the saving his life. 916 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 2: Ye, he's a two hundred and forty pounds linebacker, right, 917 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 2: he's not protecting. Like if we put somebody over top 918 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 2: of him with some quicks, he's not blocking. 919 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 3: Them or a bull. I mean, he can't handle a 920 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 3: bull run or you know, whatever it is or I'm 921 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 3: gonna quote blitz both his gaps and make him think 922 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 3: about it. But boy, he can tackle, you know. So 923 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 3: there's a reason he's out there. But a lot of 924 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,800 Speaker 3: these guys I'm sure have discernible special teams weaknesses. 925 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of a lot of that kind of 926 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 2: stuff going on here. Now they're doing a little field 927 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 2: goal blocking here. This has more guys than white shirts 928 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 2: on it. 929 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, he's are big people like but we say 930 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 3: O Line and d Linman never get their jerseys dirty 931 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,879 Speaker 3: and special teams, that's untrue because field goal protection, field 932 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 3: goal block they do. 933 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is where they step out there. 934 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 3: Louder Milk is going to be up there with his 935 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 3: giant arms trying to swat things and you kind of. 936 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 2: Now, I know you say that the punt block or 937 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 2: punt protection, the punt protection team, Yeah, shows that you're 938 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 2: probably going to make the team. I'm looking here at 939 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 2: what about field goal protection. I've seen a lot of 940 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 2: guys on that unit that Okay, they probably got a chance. 941 00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. I mean there's some one don't any starting 942 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 3: offensive lineman, but like on this team in particular, I 943 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 3: haven't given it much thought who the field goal protection 944 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 3: team would be, but I did think and correct it. 945 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 3: That's by looking at it now. Washington and Gentry are 946 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 3: going to be your two outside dude. Yeah, absolutely, walking reach. Yeah, 947 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 3: they're perfect for that where some teams might have to 948 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 3: put a a Hayward or a you check or somebody 949 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 3: like that. There. You know, they have two six eight 950 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 3: dudes massive as big as a tree, right, so they're 951 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 3: perfect for that. 952 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 2: Absolutely, we're gonna get the break again. Here. He is 953 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 2: Matt Williams and I am Dale Lollie. We are live 954 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 2: from Steelers' training camp here at Saint Vincent College where 955 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 2: they are going through their final practice here, their final 956 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 2: open practice before they go and head to Tampa tomorrow. 957 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 2: They'll have a walk through tomorrow morning and then leave. 958 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 2: Oh it was nice, right, yeah, really nice throw there 959 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 2: by Kenny Pickett. They're on nine on seven here. Now 960 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,280 Speaker 2: that was Deontay Johnson. 961 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 3: Oh he can catch toughens. Oh wow, right now, I'm 962 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 3: about to Hey, Betty, he doesn't catch zero this year, 963 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 3: but I bet right not as well. 964 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 2: But we're gonna take a break. We'll be back with 965 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 2: more right after this. 966 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: Let's go play some ball, Always talking black and gold 967 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: football on SNR