1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Welcome back, happy our listeners. I'm Backapoofer and and I'm 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: Michelle Young and man, things just really never stop around here. 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: We are so extended to be back with you this 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: week to talk about this crazy premiere episode of Bachelor 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: in Paradise. And I honestly cannot believe that we're already 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: back on this beach. I must say, though, watching this, 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: I am so glad I am watching it from my 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 1: couch at home with Tommy and not actually on the beach. 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: Once again, I'm telling you, Becca, I cannot believe are 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: we really doing this? Are we really? Are we really 11 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: doing this? Like the sandy beaches of Paradise, They're back open. 12 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: Are you ready to go? I'm deciding I don't know 13 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: if me too well. I have to say I am 14 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: a little under the weather. I'm not feeling the hottest 15 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: right now, which is why my voice sounds like a 16 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: fourteen year old boy going through puberty. So I apologize, 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, Michelle, I don't know. I mean, I feel 18 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: like they're just banging out season after season. We didn't 19 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: even get a break from from Gabby Rachel's season straight 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: into this. It's just such a quick turnaround. But truly, Becca, 21 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I'm ready for this. It's been 22 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: it's been a wild it's been a while a few weeks, 23 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: and we have so much to talk about. But what 24 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm most excited to talk about is we will have 25 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: Lace Morris today. She was on Ben Higgott's season of 26 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: The Bachelor and Bachelor in Paradise season three, so she's 27 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: she's kind of like a veteran and she got engaged, 28 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: so we're like last time she's on Paradise. So we 29 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: have a lot to talk about, but like you said, 30 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: we have more to talk about to catch up on 31 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: before we even interlace you. Yeah, Michelle and I were 32 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: just chatting before we started recording. I was like, holy crap, 33 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: we haven't even talked about the Bachelor announcement yet. There 34 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: was so much that happened and did not happen on 35 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: the finale last week that let's chat about Zach as 36 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: Bachelor because he was obviously announced on the stage, he 37 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: already met five of his suitors. What are your overall 38 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: thoughts on Honestly, what is so weird is that I 39 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: feel like I don't really know Zach that well, and 40 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: I feel like going into like the Bachelor. I guess, honestly, 41 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: probably the way people felt about Clayton coming becoming the Bachelor, 42 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: where like you don't know a lot about them except 43 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: for for me, Clayton was on my season, so it's 44 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: like I felt like I had all this like information, 45 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: I kind of you know, had interacted, but now it's 46 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: it's almost like a disconnect, I guess, And maybe that's 47 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: because with other things going on, But I don't know. 48 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: I just I don't even know if I would have 49 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: wanted any bachelor from Gabby and Rachel's season. You know, like, 50 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: do you feel like if this was the season, do 51 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: you feel like if this is the season to like 52 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: pull a bachelor from or like contestant from a previous 53 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: season with the season to do that, or do you 54 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: feel one thousand percent? But also at the same time, 55 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes I always feel very iffy, and 56 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: then once we get started, it's like you learn more 57 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: about them, you connect with them, and you're invested. I'm 58 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: waiting to see if I'm going to be invested. I'm 59 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: gonna say this right now, and I'm gonna I'm not thrilled, 60 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: and I will give several reasons why I and I 61 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: want to start this by saying, we've had Zach on 62 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: the podcast. He is a lovely man, very kind, so sweet. 63 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: I was actually convinced that he and Rachel would end 64 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: up together. I was like, he's going all the way, 65 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: like he's the one, So obviously I was a little 66 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: shocked that that didn't pan out, not that he's the bachelor. 67 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: I'm not thrilled with the choice. And that's not dissying 68 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: Zach as a human. I think he is a nice person. 69 00:03:54,880 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know if he has the charisma or 70 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: the charm right now to carry a season. And yeah, 71 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: playing off of what you just said to add on, like, 72 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: I think this is the perfect opportunity in this franchise 73 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: to you know, still work towards being better and having 74 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: much more diversity, and pulling somebody from the past that 75 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: people actually know, like can relate to, like a Mike Johnson, 76 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: like I would. You know, We've been saying this for 77 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: a while now. I just yeah, and I don't think 78 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: that there was really anyone from the current the most 79 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: recent season that could have done this well. So I'm 80 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: going to be completely honest, I'm not really excited going 81 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: into the next season and having to recap the season. 82 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: I would love to be proven wrong, and I would 83 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: love to be blown away, and I would love to 84 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: be entertained and excited about it. Right now I'm not. 85 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: That's so yeah, And it's just I think part of 86 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: it too, is just the Okay, so when you jump 87 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: from season to seasons, we talk about what is it exactly? 88 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly what it's called, but like bachelor 89 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: fatigue or you know, Bachelor seasonal, like fatigue, whatever it is, 90 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: and you're sox but like when you're really excited about somebody, 91 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: then that kind of surpasses that. But I think just 92 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: after everything and how everything has taken place within the franchise, 93 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: you know, the controversy, the emotional roller coaster, I think 94 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: it's just it's hard to not necessarily be as excited 95 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: as you want to be excited about. But I am 96 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: really happy though that we have paradise in between you know, 97 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: Zach's season and here, just because I feel like the 98 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: cast there's a lot of different personalities. I know there's 99 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: a lot of drama on Clayton's season between you know, 100 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: Chaney and some of the girls. I know that there's 101 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: some guys from Gabby and Rachel's season, So there's a 102 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: lot of things that even talk about before we get 103 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: to Zax season, so we do have a little bit 104 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: of time to warm up for him, you know. Yeah, Honestly, 105 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: I feel like the Castle is going to have to 106 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: bring it on Zach season. There's gonna be a lot 107 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: of drama, I think with just the women, which I 108 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: hate to say, and I don't necessarily love to see drama, 109 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: especially between women, but that's but that's gonna have to 110 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: be the case because he's Zach's like not like a 111 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: super wild out there, you know, crazy lead that we've 112 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: seen with some people in the past. So I think 113 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: it's going to be very interesting. I mean, like, if 114 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm being completely honest, when he was meeting the women, 115 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to be standing right behind him to be like, dude, 116 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: talk to them, remember their names, asked up for their names, 117 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: hug them, like get in there. And you weren't there, 118 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: obviously I wasn't there, and so like I didn't even 119 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: see the I didn't even see those interactions of how 120 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: it went, so you do have it. It was cringey, 121 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: it was, I mean, it is a lot to step 122 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: into It is a lot to step into, it is, 123 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: and I'm sure he'll got some coaching in the meantime 124 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: and we will have a lot of Bordone sparkling wine 125 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: to get us through the season while we watch and 126 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: do our recaps. We truly are wishing Zach the best 127 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: of Like I know that he starts filming this week 128 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: and so it's gonna be a lot, But you know, 129 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: I hope that he can enjoy this journey and really 130 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: embrace all that this lead role has to offer. And 131 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's going to meet some incredible women, some 132 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: crazy women. So we will get to all of that obviously, 133 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: you know, when the time comes. But in the meantime, 134 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: let's chat a little bit about Paradise because oh no, 135 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna be stuck in my head. I'm going to 136 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: the airport today. It literally is going to be almost 137 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: like walking through security. Oh my gosh. But where we're 138 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: back at the beach, baby, it's open. And what were 139 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: your overall thoughts standout moments from last night's episode? Oh, 140 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: standout moments are not standout? What do you consider stand out? Becca? Um? Okay, 141 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: stand out? Everyone? Does anyone trigger any reactions and you 142 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't see them and you're like, oh, that's my ex. 143 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: This is weird. Honestly, still deciding it is a little bit. 144 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: It is a little bit weird to see like Brandon 145 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:22,559 Speaker 1: walk down the stairs because it's honestly not so much 146 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: weird for me to watch, um, but it is weird 147 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: because I know that the public is gonna just pick 148 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: everything apart, and it is weird to see like, oh, 149 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: like when you're watching and they like recap like I'm 150 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: from Michelle's season and then they like flash your face 151 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: up there like the breakup, and I'm like, oh, like 152 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: I forgot that I was gonna have to be like this. 153 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, good, dang, I already put in my time, 154 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: let me go, damn. But it is, Yeah, it is. 155 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: It is pretty. It's just different, I guess, um, But no, truly, 156 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: I think I think I'm I'm very excited. I feel 157 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: like the cast is already very connected. Like I really 158 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: do feel like everybody knows each other already, well everyone 159 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: besides Lace, which we will get into it. Yeah, truly 160 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: to me, but it's like everybody already knows each other. 161 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a good thing or a 162 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: bad thing. But it seems like there's been some relationships 163 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: pre show with um who is Romeo Jill and Kira Romeo, 164 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: Jill and Kira, Like like there's just always so much 165 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: already there, And I'm curious because for me, I'm in 166 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation or I'm just you know, we're in the 167 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: Bachelor World right, We're in the Bachelor Family, so we 168 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: are constantly hearing just different things that are going on, gossip, drama, updates. 169 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: But I know way too much, too much. It's kind 170 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: of Yeah, it's really like annoying. But I'm very curious 171 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: if the audience or the viewers who are watching if 172 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: it they're going to be confused or not, because it's 173 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: like they're missing a whole part of a story that 174 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: we know when we're watching, we have that context, but 175 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: like other people, they don't have it. So it's like, well, okay, 176 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: So for that situation in particular, I was what I 177 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: was thinking the entire time in the back of my 178 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: head is like we've seen this on several seasons before this, 179 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: where people know each other, they're talking and it happens 180 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: they go to the beach and it never works out 181 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: for them, And I'm thinking like, holy shit, if Joe 182 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: was on this beach this season, they would already be gone. 183 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: He would already have sent them home some way, somehow. 184 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,599 Speaker 1: We called him the what do we call him, like 185 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: the terminator, the exterminator because he just like I don't 186 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: even know how he did it because I wasn't here. 187 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: I wasn't there half the time. But he would cut 188 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: people off of the island. Basically it was like a 189 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: survivor with him. We're talking about grocery store Rob Correct, 190 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: grocery store Joe. Yes. So I'm interested to see if, like, 191 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: since they all already knew each other and had some 192 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: sort of connection, there was already something that went down 193 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: with Romeo and Kira. Obviously they had alluded to a 194 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: kiss at the very least, So I'm like, why is 195 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: no one calling them out? Like we've seen this storyline 196 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: before playout, So I will be interested to see what 197 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: happens because they're not the only ones. There's a lot 198 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: you see who else no say? And you have to 199 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: tell me already too much, way too much. Andrew and 200 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: Teddy had already chatted. It seemed like do you I 201 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: didn't know, run around this question, what are your no, 202 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: but I'm actually your thoughts because times are changing, right. 203 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: It used to be like let's exile them if they've 204 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: like talked before and like make a plan to to 205 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: whatever it is on the beach as unfair as somebody 206 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: who's stepped on the beach. What is like you're genuinely 207 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: like like not necessarily when you were on paradise, but now, 208 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you're on that. I think it 209 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: depends on the context that somebody was talking, because in 210 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: this day and age, social media is always around. Yeah, 211 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: everyone I'm sure has DM or like liked a photo 212 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: or something like that. To me, is fine. I think 213 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: the issue comes up when people have already been talking 214 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: seeing each other in some capacity, and then try to 215 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: scheme on the beach to get more roses and stick 216 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: around and so to kind of have this scheme of 217 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: like I'll give you my rosy tweak if you give 218 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: me your rose, and like let's stay together to the end. 219 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: It's like, if you truly want to date and be 220 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: with somebody and get to know them, do that outside 221 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: of the beach, Like do that in real life. Obviously 222 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: you wouldn't get paid at that point, But then it's 223 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: like what are your intentions for coming on the beach? Correct? 224 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: And that's where I think it rubs people, especially other 225 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: contestants so on win when they know people have already 226 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: been dating, hooking up, seeing each other whatever, and then 227 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: they come on the beach to just try to scheme 228 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: and like keep roses week by week to stay how longer? 229 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: And then it's like, it's really this weird. I feel 230 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: like somebody always slips up in these situations, Like everybody 231 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: feels like they're able to come on the beach and 232 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: like almost like pulling over because it's like, Hi, how 233 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: are you doing. It's nice to meet you finally, and 234 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: it's just like mmmm, like you to write, like pretend 235 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: to reintroduce yourself. It's weird. It's just I don't know. 236 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: I don't too much. Next question, No, I'm you know, 237 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 1: I'm going to get this out of you after we 238 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: report today. I'm giving you a break. I'm giving you 239 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: two days. But I feel like I already know who 240 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: you're talking about, so I want to confirm it first 241 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: with you. But I'm sure we'll see more similar situations 242 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: like this come out as the weeks go on. I mean, 243 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: this is just right one and it's like watching it 244 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: back now. I was actually watching it with Thomas, and 245 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: it's so fun for us because to be with this 246 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: man that I love, that I met on this beach 247 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: and brings back so many memories. It's so nostalgic, Like 248 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: we're watching it and we're like, that's our day bed 249 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: that we had all of our conversations on it. So 250 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: when we see other couples go, they're like, don't go 251 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: to our bed, don't taint it. And it's just like 252 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: it's like somebody had mentioned the tacos and I was like, 253 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,239 Speaker 1: oh my god, I would go back just for the tacos. 254 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: Thomas is like, I want to go back and just 255 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: take you there and be at the resort because we 256 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: have so many good memories there, and so it's fun 257 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: to see the places of like where my love story 258 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: and so many other love stories have unfolded. And that's 259 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: why I love watching Paradise is because the opportunity for actual, 260 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: real relationships to form is so much greater. Obviously that 261 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: comes with a lot more druma as well, but I 262 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a fun season. I mean, we've 263 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: already seen so many different personalities walk down. That's just 264 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: going to grow week by week. I think it'll be 265 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: fun on it. I feel like I want to know 266 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: like all these inside scoops of like your memories, Like 267 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: let's take a trip down to Thomas and Becca's like, 268 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: oh my god, time on Paradise. Maybe we'll have to 269 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: have Thomas on some time if you need like a whatever, 270 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: like yeah, come on and have you guys like talked 271 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: through how okay? So even just like with Paradise and 272 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: everything starting you walking in or you meeting Thomas and 273 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: the whole just false reputation of him and you like 274 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: overcoming that, right, who do you think on this season 275 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: looking at episode one, who is somebody that's going to 276 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: completely refresh the reputation. Oh that's a great question. I 277 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: would say Chaney definitely, And we already saw I think 278 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: say will redeem herself a little bit, and we've already 279 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: kind of seen it. Because and this is why I'm 280 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: actually excited to have Lace on, because out of all 281 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: of the women, I didn't expect Chaney to be the 282 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: one to go to Lace when she was down in 283 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: her bunk and try to pull her out and come 284 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: hang out, you know, because but I will say, if 285 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: you go back to Clayton season, the same thing kind 286 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: of happened. She felt alone, she felt ostracized, like no 287 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: one wanted to talk to her and be with her. 288 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: And so the fact that I think she could relate 289 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: to Lace made her much more empathetic to be the 290 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: one to go get her. But yeah, I think her. 291 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of the men um. I was 292 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: really shocked to. Okay, so Casey, I like Casey. He 293 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: is Casey is I honestly I am. I'm a Casey fan. 294 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm a huge too, because he has like these really 295 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: like he has these really funny, like quick witted moments 296 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: that just like the things that he said says are honestly, 297 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: can be dry humor, can be dad humor. But I 298 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: just remember, like even just tuning in and if you 299 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: pay attention to just the things that he says, like 300 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: he's just I don't know, like simply hilarious. But I 301 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: would love to have Casey on the podcast rubbing what 302 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: is it bastin Nation's own back Shepherd, Let's go o 303 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: case But he was funny, like he's edgy. Two Like 304 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: let's go to the boom boom room I'm like, what, 305 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: Please tell me you caught the part where he was 306 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: talking about all of the nipple rubbing and then he 307 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: My favorite part of the entire episode was Casey picking 308 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: up his coffee glass and with two hands and drinking 309 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: his coffee cup. I'm like, what is this kid doing? 310 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: You like a six six two man, you don't need 311 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: two hands to hold your coffee cup. Hi, I am 312 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: already a fan of Casey. I will say Thomas is 313 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: already a fan of Casey. I would love to have 314 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: him on the podcast, so hopefully we will be seen 315 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: much more of him. But before that, we have to 316 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: bring on Lace. She was there day one. She's actually 317 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: the only one so far on this cast list that 318 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: has done Paradise before. So, as you said, she's a 319 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: vet great to pick her brain about, like the past 320 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: versus the present. So everybody, please welcome Lace to Happy Hour. 321 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Batch your happy hour relays. We have not 322 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: seen you since Paradise three, so fill us in. How 323 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: are you, first of all, and how has it been 324 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: rewatching yourself now on the big screen. It's been a while, man, 325 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: six years, that's a long time to take a break 326 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: from Bachelor and just come back. I had been out 327 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: of the show for several years before I went back 328 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: to Paradise, and it's it's such a jarring experience, Like 329 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: you go from living your normal life to doing whatever 330 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: you want, so then having to be back on the schedule, 331 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: it's a lot to take it. No, but I'm actually 332 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: in the six years, I'm doing really good. I took 333 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: the time for myself and I feel like I've grown 334 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: up a lot. I'm a lot more wise, I'm definitely 335 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: more chill. So seeing myself on the big screen, it's 336 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: gonna be a little scary because I remember just like 337 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: not knowing what to expect, and it's all back. So 338 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: there we are the TV anxiety of watching yourself and 339 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: bach nation. Yeah. But honestly though, I love that that 340 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: you've taken time for yourself to work on yourself. That's amazing, 341 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: and just even going into Paradise hopefully like being in 342 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: a good head space, but before you hit those beaches, Like, 343 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: I know you working on yourself, but how do you, like, 344 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: were you dating beforehand? So I actually got into a 345 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: very serious relationship like two and a half years after 346 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: Great and I got broke up and that didn't work out. 347 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: So I decided after that it was just time to 348 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: take a break from dating, because that's all I've ever done. 349 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: So I have actually been single for the most part 350 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: since then. I've done like dating, you know, a couple 351 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: of months here and there, but could not get past 352 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,479 Speaker 1: like three months with someone. So I decided to just 353 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: be single and just kind of date and it's been 354 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: actually amazing for self growth. I love that. I mean, honestly, 355 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: I think it's so important to take some time for 356 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: yourself and to have the self awareness to recognize that, 357 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 1: like I need my own time, my own space for 358 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: a bit to be potentially better for someone in the 359 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: future is so important, right thing that it kind of 360 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: like I'm trying to put myself back in your shoes 361 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 1: of like going back on to Paradise after taking a 362 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: few years off. And obviously when you were on Paradise three, 363 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: to just give all of our listeners a quick recap, 364 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: you dated Grant, you got engaged during the finale. How 365 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: long were you both together at that point, Grant are 366 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: you talking about? Yes? Sorry, Grant and I were a 367 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: total of six months, like including Paradise, gotcha, Okay, So 368 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: you know that the process can work. You can genuinely 369 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: fall for someone. Is that mainly the reason why you 370 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: said yes to going back now? On season eight, you 371 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: were like, this could work again. I'm going to give 372 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: it a shot one hundred percent. I mean, I figured 373 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: third times a charms, we'll get people'll try. But I 374 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: knew that Grant and I could, but we were not. 375 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: I don't think Grant and I were in a space 376 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: for either of us to try and continue making it work. 377 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: But if two people are willing to, you can it 378 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: can happen. Real world just hits after you leave Paradise 379 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: and you know the jury, So it just depends on 380 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: if people are willing to put the work in. But 381 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: if you're with your mindset of that and like how 382 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: everything took place, and like you said, like you went 383 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: through that experience, you got engaged, you know, didn't work out, 384 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: and then you said, you've done so much growth. Has 385 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: your mindset or did your mindset change as you were 386 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: walking into Paradise from the first time you walked into Paradise, 387 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: Like what what was the biggest um you know, just 388 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: the thing that you were thinking about or the biggest 389 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: part of you that had been different for this next 390 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: time around. Yeah, that's a really good question. Actually, um, 391 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: it definitely was different in the sense, well, I know 392 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: it can work, but I think I knew things that 393 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: different this time that I could do better myself, and 394 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: maybe just kind of someone looking at someone a little 395 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: differently and being a little more open minded and just 396 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: kind of steering away from anyone like Chad Okay on 397 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: that season. So being open in mind, is there anything 398 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: looking like you looking for somebody in a man or 399 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: in a partner that changed because you said you will. 400 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: You said that you wanted to be open minded to 401 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: some other people, right, more open minded? Is there like 402 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: a trait or a characteristic that you wanted to look 403 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: for and men that was different that maybe you weren't 404 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,479 Speaker 1: open to before. I don't know how to answer it, 405 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: just because I know all these guys are on the 406 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: show for love, right, But I thought I thought Grant 407 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: was too, you know. So I guess it was more 408 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: of a me thing and hoping that there was a 409 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: guy ready for love. But only I can only control 410 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: my side of it. I guess for a guy I 411 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: just really wanted immature family, I open. I don't know 412 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: it looks wise I was open, right, But I was 413 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: just just I don't know I was there. Was there 414 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: anyone when you were cutting down you really were excited 415 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: to see that you thought would be there, And then 416 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: once you were there, was there anyone who kind of 417 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: pulled at you a little bit that you were besides 418 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: Logan because we saw that conversation which we will get into, 419 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: but besides him that you were leaning towards, like, oh, 420 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: he could be a great partner. Yeah. I mean, I 421 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: thought a lot of the guys coming possibly coming were hot, 422 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: but I know for sure that I wanted to meet everyone. 423 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: Probably wanted to meet Brandon, but I'm like, Brandon's so 424 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: good attractive. But I think Rodney was a big one 425 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: that I was really interested in meeting because I've heard 426 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: what a great guy he is. And I didn't really 427 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: watch too much of your episode the show, actually, but 428 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: I've heard good things about him, so he was kind 429 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: of on the top of my list. Okay, did you 430 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: once you got down there, did the men at that 431 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: point exceed expectations or did they not exceed the expectations? 432 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: And I got down to the beach, I was kind 433 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: of in shock. I'm like, well, there's no one here 434 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: for me, But no. I mean there was a couple. 435 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: Everyone was attractive, but I was like, I don't know 436 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: these are my type. I'm not sure. You know who 437 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: surprised me with Andrew. Andrew was very attractive a person. 438 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, he's cute. But I almost got shy 439 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: and coming back six years later because I didn't know anyone. 440 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: So I was so scared to talk to anyone, and 441 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, I gotta step my game up here. Yeah, 442 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: that's gotta be like intimidating. Were you fairly nervous walking 443 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: down those stairs, like knowing that you know that it's 444 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: just been a minute. Yeah, the producers that were with 445 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: me and Mike, can I please just back out now? 446 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: I do not want to do this. I thought I 447 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: was ready, and then I got from the stairs and 448 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: I was like shaking. I'm like, what am I getting 449 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: myself into? Oh? I feel that girl? One thing that 450 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you. So there was one girl, 451 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: I think it was Haley. After you had walked down 452 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: the beach and introduced yourself to everyone, she made a 453 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: comment of like, six years later, why are you back? 454 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: Your time is up? Like and it really rubbed me 455 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: the wrong way because First of all, you and I 456 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: are the same age. I'm also thirty two. I don't 457 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: know if you're actually thirty two with your fake birthday. 458 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: I just want to ask you about that. One's really 459 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: but but but the comment just really rubbed me the 460 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: wrong way. And in my mind, I'm like, everyone is 461 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: already putting their lives on hold to come back on 462 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: the show. They're putting everything on the line to potentially 463 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: find a partner. It's a lot to take it and 464 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: a lot to handle. And obviously everyone is here because 465 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: it hasn't worked on in the past, so why not 466 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: try it again? And so when she said that, I 467 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: was I got the ick and I was like, oh, 468 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: I don't like what she just said. That really rubbed 469 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: me the wrong way. How do you feel knowing that 470 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: that was like the sentiment? And how would you if 471 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: she would have said that to your face, how would 472 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: you have addressed it? Yeah, I'm actually glad you brought 473 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: this up because I'm already struggling with the fact that 474 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm coming back six years later. And I was like, 475 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: am I going to be the oldest one? I don't know, 476 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: but I just and you know, how the world is 477 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: right now? It's like, if you're thirty two and single, 478 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: it's a problem, you know, and it's hard to date 479 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: as it is, so um, coming back at thirty two 480 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: is already scary enough. The comment just isn't necessary. So 481 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,239 Speaker 1: had she said it to my facehook, I say something like, 482 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: why do I have to be here? Why can't I 483 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: come back? Why can't I get a second chance that love? 484 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: Just like you guys like I didn't find it, that's 485 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: okay if I come back. Um, yeah, I think it's 486 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: kind of a BS comment too. Um. I deserve love 487 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: just as much as anyone else. So who cares? If 488 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: I was six years ago loud of for the people 489 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: in the back and I was scared, I was. I'm 490 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: scared because you know, I saw Grant got engaged, you know, 491 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: so I feel, oh gosh, I'm still single six years later? 492 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: Is it me and I a problem? But I can't 493 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: think like that. I thought, it's not. It's just hard 494 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: to date in this world now, and I accept that. 495 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: And I'm everyone's timeline different and mine's just a little 496 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: slower as far as love, And that's okay, that's okay. 497 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: You got to be patient and do not settle. Yeah, yeah, 498 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: I said, I love that. I really do love that. Okay, 499 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: so that first day, you're done on the sand and 500 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: it's not going how you wanted to go, right, Like 501 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: you already said that, you have all these other things, 502 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: like you have all these things going through your head, 503 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: you have all these emotions, these things that you're personally 504 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: dealing with because of the experiences you've been through, and 505 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: it was it really was kind of a rough first 506 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: go at it with you right for you anyways, it 507 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: was just you felt like a complete outsider I did. 508 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that was what I was scared of, is 509 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: I don't know anyone, they don't know who I am, 510 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: and hopefully everyone's nice because there could be some really 511 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: bitchy people on there. But yeah, the girls were really nice, 512 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: but everyone was kind of stand offish. I think they 513 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: were nervous to you, and I didn't put that into 514 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: account when I was there, so just kind of like, 515 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: whid I came here? This is stupid. I just needed 516 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: a breather. But I just I did the thing where 517 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, my season was more exciting. But it was 518 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: too soon to say that, I think, because you know 519 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: how the seasons go, anything could happen, but I kind 520 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: of just got in my head a little bit and 521 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: I just felt uncomfortable. Yeah, so we saw the part 522 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: where you were up in the bunk doing your own thing, 523 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: Like I was like, she's going to tap out, she's 524 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: going to go home, but then Shaney comes up and 525 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: tries to pull you out to go have a drink 526 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: on the beach and get you out of the shell. 527 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: Which and I was saying this to Michelle before you 528 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: were on. I was out of anyone there. I was 529 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: surprised that it was Shaney because she had such a 530 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: bad on her season on Clayton's season, and so I 531 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: was genuinely surprised, but in a great way that she 532 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: was the one to come to you. I feel like 533 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: she could really relate because she kind of felt ostracized 534 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: on her season two. So did you expect anyone to 535 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: come get you and were you surprised when it was Shaney? No, 536 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,479 Speaker 1: I just was taking a breather. I didn't care if 537 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: anyone did or not. I just had to take a 538 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: step away because I did not want to make a 539 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: bad move or do something stupid like previously. So I 540 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: just needed to step away from the situation. She was 541 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: definitely the last person I thought maybe a producer would 542 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: come up and talk to me if they did. Um. 543 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: But that's kind of where her and I bonded, and 544 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: we were related a little bit because we both were 545 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: kind of I guess Bella's previously, but yeah, she kind of. 546 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: She was really sweet and came up to me and 547 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: had a really good talk and she's just get down there, 548 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: And so I thought about it for a minute. I'm like, 549 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: I should don't be stupid. You're just being kind of 550 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: selfish and insecure. We're not. That's not why we came here. 551 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: We came here to be confident. So yeah, I got 552 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: I got my bet up. And when you're down, you confidence, 553 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: so so much confidence. When the idea arise of let's 554 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: just tell everybody today is my birthday, which honestly I'm alive, 555 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like some people might do 556 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: that now, like people. Yeah, the tactic it worked, but 557 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: where like where did that come from? Yeah? So I 558 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: came back down and I was like, well, you might 559 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: as well do something entertaining. And there was something said 560 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: about a birthday I don't know, and so I was like, well, 561 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: let's go with it. It's my birthday, and I'm like, 562 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: let's take some shots and systems like it is your birthday, 563 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: let's take shots. And it just was a whole thing 564 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: and everyone jumped on board. I was surprised how many 565 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: people were excited about a birthday, and so I ran 566 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: with it. And there was a lot of times where 567 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: people would talk about the birthday and then I would 568 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: get confused because they'd ask me my sign and I'm like, oh, 569 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: I don't know the sign for this. You're a leoh. Shoot. 570 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: So that's time you had birthday cake, Like Logan brought 571 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: you birthday cake, you asked him to sing you happy birthday. 572 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: That led into that conversation I want first, I want 573 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: to know this. We'll talk about the Logan conversation here 574 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: in a second, but did anybody call you out like 575 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: or when it plays back, is this going to be 576 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: the first time that people are learning that it's wasn't 577 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: your birthday? Um? I won't say too much, just because 578 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: there's a whole season to still No, everyone till the 579 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: end of the season thought it was my birthday. I 580 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: think there was like still the day I lacked, people 581 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: were like, um, isn't your birthday? Wasn't it your birthday? 582 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: So no one, no one caught on that it was 583 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: my birthday. I feel like everyone was very naive because 584 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: I'm a bad liar, and everyone went with it, so 585 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: I would have boiled. Well. I will say having a 586 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: birthday in Paradise can be very hit or miss based 587 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: upon the history of the beach. Like last year, I 588 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: think it was Kenny's birthday. Somebody made him a cake, 589 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: there was a fight, it was sort of in the fire. 590 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: Tammy went home on her birthday. So that was a 591 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: ballsy move to be like, this could either go swimmingly 592 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: or it could sink real fast. So the thing about 593 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: that is, I feel like no one knows me, so 594 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: you know nothing about me. You don't know me, so 595 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: I can do my birthday. You have no idea when 596 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: my birthday is. So when when is your real birthday? 597 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: It's actually coming up on November three, so I think 598 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: even will be airing Wow my birthday, Yes, okay, so 599 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: we will have a second celebratory shots slash cake for you. 600 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: Getting into that Logan conversation, he's seeing to you. The 601 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: conversations going fairly well, it seems like, and then he 602 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: says the wrong name. Was it in that moment that 603 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: you knew Logan was not going to be the one 604 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: for you? I still cannot get over that. I think 605 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: this name haunts me to this day. When he called 606 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: me the wrong name, I'm like, we're done here, you 607 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: don't even know my name. I'm good. And I think 608 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: it's because he's twenty six too. And I was gonna say, 609 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: did the age have anything to do with it? Because 610 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: when you found out he was twenty six, your whole 611 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: demeanor kind of change. You're like, you're a baby. You're 612 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: a baby, and he called me the wrong name. We're done. Yeah, 613 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: you don't even need three strikes in your body. Names 614 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: are so important. Though he called you loose of all names, 615 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: do you know that how many different directions loose can go? 616 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: Like this is really embarrassing. Also, it's like attentive, Like 617 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: I know that the first day is a lot, but 618 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: it's like paying attention and like attentive to detail and 619 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: you want to you know, know that somebody's paying attention 620 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: and it's like okay, but most get past. In his defense, 621 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: I dated Jason Tarnick on my season for a good 622 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: couple weeks and forgot his name on a date, so 623 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: it can happen. That is true, and I tru dating 624 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: that many people. Actually, I did call somebody the wrong 625 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: name on the first night. To never mind, I can't 626 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: even talk here. We've all done a complete wrong name. 627 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: We've all done it, so I mean that's different. You 628 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: guys had a ton and there was just a few 629 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: of us though, So is it a deal breaker or no. 630 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: It was a dealbreaker for Logan, Okay, yeah, but if 631 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: anyone does it again, I might be traumatized. So it's 632 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: a deal breaker. You know, even j Palmer has done it. 633 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: We've all done it. Um. Okay, Before we get into 634 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: our last question that we ask everyone here, we need 635 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: to know. I mean, obviously it's only been night one. 636 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: There's still so much that happens on that beach. But 637 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: can you give us a little teaser of what's to 638 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: come this summer? You know? I have to say, even 639 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: though I was kind of pouting and I was sad 640 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: and thinking that this season was going to be kind 641 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: of lame compared to mine, because I did have a 642 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: really great season, but they really fooled us. And there's 643 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: a lot of twists and turns and a lot of 644 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 1: crying and anger. Did you expect any different? No, which 645 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: that's crazy of me to think that's you're in for 646 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: a wild bread. I didn't see half the stuff coming, 647 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: and I'm like, why did I come back? Yeah, well, 648 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: we know a little bit of what's to come, and 649 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: it does sound wild. There are, as you said, twists 650 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,959 Speaker 1: and turns of that. I am very intrigued to see 651 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 1: Pano because I would not have expected it. It sounds 652 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: like it's going to be good. All right, lace not 653 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: loose lace. It is time for our rose and thorn. 654 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: And then we're also going to add our additional piece now, 655 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: a resource or something that has been helping you out. 656 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: So if you want to start with your highlight, your rose, true, 657 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: my rose. I just think it's the confidence of coming back. 658 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 1: It has to be. Um, it was a wild ride. 659 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: But I just I'm really proud of myself for coming 660 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: back and putting myself out there and being vulnerable enough. 661 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: My thorn getting called loose important? Hey, um resource. I 662 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: just think we all need to be educating ourselves fully. 663 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: I love reading personally, Um, readings might go too. I 664 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: think there's so many books out there. People love podcasts, 665 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 1: There's plenty of podcasts as well. But I just think 666 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: people really need to start educating themselves more on just 667 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: diversity and mental health, all of it, because mental health 668 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: is such an issue these days, and you know, even 669 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 1: going on the show for some of us can really 670 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: affect us after and all of the stuff that comes 671 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 1: with it and your past comes out. So I really 672 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: just think it's education for ourselves and treating everyone with 673 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: kindness because you don't know where they're coming from. There's 674 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: one I'm reading right now. I have it right here. 675 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: It's the power of positive thinking. I think that's a 676 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 1: huge one. That's what I'm reading right now, and it's 677 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: already changed my mindset so much. I also think the 678 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: power of love is huge for people. There's a million 679 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: books out there that are amazing. I guess are all right, Michelle, 680 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: you want me to go or do you want to 681 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: take it away? Um? Take it away? Becca? Okay. So 682 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: this is going to be so interesting due to Rose 683 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: and Thorne just for like one episode. But I'll say 684 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: my Rose, I think it is just watching Paradise back 685 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: with Thomas and seeing all the places where we had 686 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: our story begin and where we started to fall for 687 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: each other, and so that's that was just a little 688 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: walk down memory line, which was really nice for us. 689 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: My thorn, Oh my god, didn't know. I also have 690 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: to say, though, Casey's cup holding with the glass the 691 00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: two handed drink was my favorite. It's just I don't 692 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: think it's such a character. Here's hilarious. So that's another 693 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: little that's a bud on my rose, I would say. 694 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: And then the thorn is probably I think, honestly, I 695 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: would say that thorn has seen Haley say that about 696 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: you coming down because I felt very much in your 697 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: shoes last year and how you somewhat felt coming down, 698 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: and so it really robbed me the wrong way. So 699 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: that's going to be my thorn of the week. And 700 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: then a resource is I shared several on my Instagram 701 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 1: story last week after Michelle and I had our follow 702 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: up conversation to the podcast, But I was doing some 703 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: more digging around because I had shared Thirteenth, which is 704 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: an incredible documentary, but I found another one that I 705 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: haven't watched it. I want to do it this week 706 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 1: and we can obviously talk about it next week if 707 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: you want. But it's called More Than a Month, Michelle, 708 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: have you heard of it? Briefly, it's basically about this 709 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: filmmaker goes around the country and you know, February is 710 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: Black History Month, and he kind of goes outside of 711 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: the box a little bit and not like petitions, but 712 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: like starts this thing where he's like, we should end 713 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: Black History Month. And it's it pushes people off their 714 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: rubbed the wrong way. But I think it's because he's 715 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: trying to make it more of like, well, black history 716 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 1: is American history and it shouldn't just be condensed to 717 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 1: these twenty eight days. And so I am. I watched 718 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: the trailer for it. I think it's on PBS, I believe. 719 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 1: So that's one that I think will be a good 720 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: resource and just thought provoking. So I'm excited to check 721 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: that one out. So that's the one I'm sharing today. 722 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: I like that. Becca. We should actually we should try 723 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: to check that one out together. Oh my gosh, do 724 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 1: you want to do a little let's do it. Yeah, 725 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: I'll come, I'll come to you. Yeah, oh my god, 726 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 1: I would love I would love that. But um okay, 727 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: so my Rose would probably be just changing it up 728 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: like Chance for finally on Paradise. I really do genuinely 729 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 1: like watching paradise because there's more than one love story 730 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: taking place. It's also kind of cool to watch because 731 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: I know majority the people who are stepping on the 732 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: beach and like you've met them, so it's like, I 733 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: don't know, it's a little bit different, which is cool. 734 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: Um My thorn would probably have to be. Oh, probably 735 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,399 Speaker 1: have to be just like the discomfort of like it's 736 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,959 Speaker 1: just awkward, awkward to watch xes walking on a beach, 737 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: right Like, whether however deeply you connected with them or not, 738 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: it's just odd. I don't know, So it'll be different. 739 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 1: Already watched one with Clayton. Now I'm watching like how 740 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: many three at the same time right now, and it's 741 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: probably gonna get more here we go. My resource would 742 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: have to be. Um. So there's a podcast called Still 743 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: Processing and it's this amazing just kind of talks about 744 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: all these different social issues, but specifically the episode Kaepernick 745 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: because you know, taking a knee during the national anthem, 746 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: and it talks about how Nike um sponsored and brought 747 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: him on board after that whole thing took place, and 748 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: so it gives really good insight of just you know, 749 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,240 Speaker 1: that whole situation, and I think, um, it's an awesome, 750 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: awesome episode to listen to after everything that had happened, 751 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: um with just with with this racial controversy going on 752 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: and is there's just a lot of different similarities and 753 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 1: so um that one you can find on I think 754 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts. It's on Spotify as well, and so yeah, 755 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: I'll make sure to tag it. But Lace, thank you 756 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 1: so much. It's been so so awesome having you on here. 757 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: It's been a long time coming, but we are happy 758 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 1: to see a familiar face and we know that this 759 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: opens up a whole new world of you having to 760 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: watch yourself on the screen again. Wait butch fingers crossed 761 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,919 Speaker 1: that it goes well for you, and like you said, 762 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's going to be a wild ride. Yeah, 763 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 1: thank you for having me. Honestly, this is fun. I 764 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: was excited to talk to you. Guys have about you. Really, 765 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: we loved having you. It's always good to see a 766 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:08,280 Speaker 1: familiar face. And honestly, I kudos to you for finding 767 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: the strength to come back to put yourself out there 768 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: once again. It's not an easy feat and so I'm 769 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: glad that you did it and we get to see 770 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: more of you. So thank you for hopping on today. 771 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: Not ah, we will all right, well, Michelle, welcome to Paradise. Hey, 772 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: first season in Vadis. Let's go, we are in it. 773 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: I'm so excited that this is the first time we're 774 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: doing Paradise together. It's going to be very fun. I 775 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 1: can't wait to see what happens. It sounds like it 776 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: is a crazy banana bonker season, so it'll be very 777 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 1: exciting to watch. Why Donna give me a mic sometimes. 778 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 1: But Michelle again, thank you for being here. Thank you 779 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: for sharing your resource. I can't wait to check that 780 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: podcast out. And to all of our batch are happy, 781 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: our listeners. Thank you for being here each and every week, 782 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: because we'll kind of be doing this without you and everyone. 783 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,800 Speaker 1: Don't forget that. You can catch new episodes of Boucher 784 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: in Paradise every week on ABC or Hulu, and make 785 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: sure to hit us up on social. You can follow 786 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 1: us at Bachelor Happy Hour on Instagram and from there 787 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: you'll find everything you need to know to follow us 788 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: on Twitter and TikTok and Boucher Happy Hour is available 789 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, or wherever you listen, and 790 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: you can always listen ad free when you subscribe to 791 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: Wondering Plus in Apple Podcasts or the Wondering App. Thank 792 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: you everyone, and see you next week. Audios