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Speaker 1: Hello, baby, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did.

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Speaker 2: My name is Millie. I'm Danielle. Are we gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Sued by the by the ghost of Chummy Checker our

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Speaker 1: big bopper Boer?

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Speaker 2: I don't even know Chummy Checker's dead. I apologize. I

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Speaker 2: got the wrong person and the wrong state of.

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Speaker 1: Living Mandella affected Chubby Checker.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I did hard. But yeah, how you doing.

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Speaker 2: How's this week? I'm good, I'm fine.

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Speaker 1: Oh what a day I have to reveal a secret?

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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 1: Today is my birthday, second birthday and quarantine.

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Speaker 2: That just feels mean, God damn it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, dude, it's cursed. It is a fucking

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Speaker 1: cursed day. I will never have fun on my birthday ever.

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Speaker 2: Again. Can we change your birthday? Like it's the birthday

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Speaker 2: stays the same, like you were born on March twenty third,

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Speaker 2: but the day we celebrate your birthday is now in

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Speaker 2: like September. Just to be sure. I truly think.

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Speaker 1: I'm allowed that. I think I'm allowed to have a

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Speaker 1: different birthday because honestly, the past three years have been terrible,

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Speaker 1: Like the first year I was in the hospital or

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Speaker 1: recovering from near death literal near death. The second birthday

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Speaker 1: was last fucking year beginning of COVID, and this here

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Speaker 1: again COVID. I'm just like, come on, people, we're changing.

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Speaker 2: When we're changing it, you'll be like, yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: was born on March twenty third. We are celebrating now

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Speaker 2: on September first, because I will be pre all the

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Speaker 2: people going back to school, post holiday in the summer,

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Speaker 2: pre holiday in the winter. Like, I'm just gonna claim

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Speaker 2: that asthma day to celebrate.

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Speaker 1: Wait, so, what is September one? Astrologically? Is that like

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Speaker 1: a virgo or something? What one is that?

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Speaker 2: I gotta look at it. Oh it is it's a virgo?

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Speaker 2: Oh I am I don't know if that is me?

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Speaker 2: What is a virgo?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm good at I'm actually good at that.

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Speaker 2: What's an astrological sign that you enjoy that is not yours?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is a fucking perfect question for me.

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Speaker 1: I think about this all the time. Honestly, I probably

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Speaker 1: so I'm an aries if you didn't know about astrology,

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Speaker 1: like everybody should know, I'm an aries. But I have

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Speaker 1: a lot of air in my charts. They say we

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Speaker 1: get along so well triple because you're a triple Gemini,

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Speaker 1: which talk about being cursed.

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Speaker 2: I am sun moon rising Gemini. That is incredible.

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Speaker 1: And actually it's so funny you mentioned that because I

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Speaker 1: do have a friend who's like, he's real witchy, and

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Speaker 1: he when I told him that, he was like, holy shit,

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Speaker 1: I have to read her chart like asap. And I

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Speaker 1: was like, all right, I'll tell her, and then I

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Speaker 1: forgot to tell you. I'm sorry about that. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: apparently that's an incredible thing for you to be triple gems.

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Speaker 2: I mean, incredible could go either way good or that

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Speaker 2: it's incredibly good or incredibly bad or just incredibly you know,

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Speaker 2: it's what it is. But you do have a lot

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Speaker 2: of air in your chart, which is I do.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of my answer. Then I

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Speaker 1: think i'd probably be Libra nice like I would. I

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Speaker 1: would moonlight as a Libra maybe. I mean I like

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Speaker 1: interior design, so I guess maybe, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: And that is the symbol that the star chart for

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Speaker 2: the Libra is just like a paint brush and a

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Speaker 2: tape measure. Oh, like, isn't that one? Like in the

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Speaker 2: sky you look up and you're like, there's the tape

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's basically like that's that's pretty at a lease.

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Speaker 1: Our engineer they just told us that Libra is the

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Speaker 1: sister sign of Aries.

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Speaker 2: So there you go. I guess it is there it is.

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Speaker 1: What about you, though, what would you be?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I would be a Gemini threw and through. See

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Speaker 2: I would never never change these stripes. If you hate

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Speaker 2: me money and I hate it with like you know

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Speaker 2: how every once in a while, like every few years,

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Speaker 2: a Gemini. I can't even imagine being another another sign.

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Speaker 1: practical matters. But I'll also pop off.

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Speaker 2: You've been on you. You've seen a lot of my

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Speaker 2: pop off emails and voicemails and real life pop offs.

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Speaker 1: Actually, actually, if you're if someone's a virgo, it's you,

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Speaker 1: because virgos are like, we'll tell you exactly what they

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Speaker 1: think to your fucking face.

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Speaker 2: How dare you? But yes, I agree.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Now everybody hates us and we're gonna get one

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Speaker 1: hundred million emails from every sign saying fuck you, I

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Speaker 1: got it wrong. But anyway, but thank you for being

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Speaker 1: here with me on my birthday. Another this is literally

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Speaker 1: this join us podcast on my birthday is the greatest.

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Speaker 1: On top of that, the past few weeks, because I

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Speaker 2: Bracket, I mean, I mean, I don't even know what

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Speaker 2: to say. I love our listeners, It's all I can say.

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Speaker 2: From recommendation, from your submissions to your voting, y'all are wild.

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Speaker 1: And you know I here we were thinking we'll be

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Speaker 2: Like also universally insane. I don't know. The reception of

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Speaker 2: wild and y'all are hilarious, and I just very thank

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Speaker 2: you for sending in your very revealing submissions. There were

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Speaker 2: There's been a lot of bad movies out there made

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Speaker 2: under the guise of horniness, so I know we feel you.

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Speaker 1: We fail you, and we have about a week left,

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Speaker 1: right like give or take, So honestly, anything can happen

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Speaker 1: as we know, oh with Actually I don't know. Is

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Speaker 1: like I like a little sports, but I don't really get.

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Speaker 1: Lot about college basketball. I don't really know much about

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Speaker 1: the marchmaths. It's like, you know, I'm like the drama.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure are they picking teams? Is that what they do?

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Speaker 2: Like I don't even know how do they like switch teams? Like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you were a Nick and now you're a Seattle Supersonic

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Speaker 1: I think those are NBA teams.

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Speaker 2: Oh right, yeah, See that's where I am. That's where

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Speaker 1: Duke, that's the only college basketball team I've ever known

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Speaker 1: for two reasons. Christian Layton, Christian Yes.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Christian Lightner, and the Duke lacrosse scandal. We're

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Speaker 3: I swear to God, I love you more than ever

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Speaker 3: after you said that shit, because I was like, I

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Speaker 3: mean Jesus Christ, like that whole shit that was going on.

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Speaker 1: What was what year was that? Like that was like

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Speaker 2: It was definitely nineties because I was in high school

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Speaker 1: Like he is so Christian Lanner. I mean, if you're listening, Christian,

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Speaker 2: We he won't be listening. What are your nuts? Look?

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Speaker 2: Maybe he needs some movie Rex. He probably has kids

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Speaker 1: There was a brief period of time where Christian Laightner

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Speaker 2: That is the coolest ask But that is the coolest gift.

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Speaker 2: Like that you asked and your dad did it. You're

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Speaker 1: I'm like everyone's on their feet and they're like yelling

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Speaker 2: And that's exciting, Like all live sports are exciting. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But it was that thing where there was four

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Speaker 1: horn dog ass teenage girls in like the nosebleeded section

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Speaker 1: of the Omni, which was I think what I think

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Speaker 1: It was still the Omni in Atlanta and had not

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Speaker 1: changed over to Phillips Serena yet. And we were in

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Speaker 1: the fucking four hundred section with no one around us,

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Speaker 1: being like.

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Speaker 2: Christian, we love you.

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Speaker 1: We don't know anything else about this game.

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Speaker 2: And your dad was like sitting floor side and he's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: actually watch the game. I got myself one ticket.

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Speaker 1: If I know my dad, he was not even at

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Speaker 1: He was driving around the RITA.

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Speaker 2: That's how I know that, Like, that's what my dad does.

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Speaker 2: Let's read our mail bag. We can make that happen.

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Speaker 2: people have seen a lot of these movies. But then

435
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 2: we thought, well, if the purpose of our podcast is

436
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 2: to kind of open up the world of movies to people,

437
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 2: maybe they haven't and if we spoil it, then what's

438
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 2: the point of listening? And so it is very interesting

439
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: because I think I kind of live in a world

440
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 2: where if something has only been out for a month,

441
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 2: then don't spoil it because I still have a chance

442
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 2: of watching this new thing. But if it's been out

443
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 2: for a year or more, knock yourself out, like it's

444
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 2: my loss of I don't listen to it or watch

445
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 2: it or whatever. So that is I don't know, maybeh

446
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: we open it up to our audience. You would like

447
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 2: do like a poll of some kind, or.

448
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we'll do a pole. Maybe we'll do it

449
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 1: after the bracket is over, just because there's a lot

450
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: going on on Instagram.

451
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: But we can do a pole, Okay.

452
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: So I'll give you my quick assessment of it, which

453
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: is that I don't give a shit about spoilers ever.

454
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: Like I'm that person where I'm just sort of like, oh,

455
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: do you just walk literally walked out of promising young woman.

456
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 1: Do you want to just tell me what it's about

457
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Speaker 1: because I'll still see it.

458
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 2: I don't care.

459
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: That's my attitude towards it. And plus, like you said,

460
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Speaker 1: I mean when it comes down to it, like a

461
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: lot of times with older movies, I mean, if a

462
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: movie's been out for one hundred years, I think it's

463
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Speaker 1: okay to talk about them ending. And I also feel

464
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 1: the way about things that happened in real life. So

465
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: like things that are based on like news, true crime, whatever.

466
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Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, that happened in the news, Like, you're

467
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: not gonna spoil Ititania because I know what Ititania is about.

468
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Speaker 1: I mean, just as an example, exactly, you know what

469
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Speaker 1: I mean. So it's that thing where I'm like, I

470
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Speaker 1: don't care, but I know some people get really upset

471
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: by it, and I've gotten into several arguments with good

472
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 1: friends of mine about it, and so I don't know

473
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: everyone's different, But yeah, maybe we will open it up

474
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 1: and see, because you know, I don't know. It's like,

475
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: like I said, it's very rare that we hear the

476
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 1: opposite opinion of like, play spoil the movie, So I'm

477
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: very intrigued by the possibilities here.

478
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's it's I don't really care so

479
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: much about spoilers because again, like I think a lot

480
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 2: of the movies that I watch are not affected by

481
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 2: knowing the plot, Like, I still want to see how

482
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 2: it's crafted and how it's done and what people going

483
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 2: to it. So I agree with you, but but yeah,

484
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 2: let's open it up, because what we don't want is

485
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: a bunch of email saying I can't believe you spoiled

486
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 2: the ending of Citizen Kane and me being like, first

487
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 2: of all, we would never even talk about that movie,

488
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 2: how dare you? And second of all, everyone knows that

489
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 2: Rosebud was the fucking sled. It came out five hundred

490
00:25:58,760 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: years ago.

491
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Speaker 1: Actually that is not the ending. The real ending is

492
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: that a robotic police officer that was built by a

493
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: corporation comes and blows up Xanadu and the sled.

494
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Speaker 2: I'm kidding. I don't what a Citizen Kane was just

495
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 2: the prequel the RoboCup. Yeah, exactly. Your questions and feel

496
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 2: free to email us any questions you have about film

497
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: or themes at I saw what you did pot at Gmail.

498
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Speaker 1: I think it's funny that my birthday has sucked for

499
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: many years, but you know, it is nice to be like, oh, well,

500
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: you get a little something.

501
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 2: You get to talk.

502
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: About a person that I love and I would love

503
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: to talk about. And also sort of a recurring theme,

504
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: I believe, because we definitely want to do this again

505
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 1: with different people. And why don't you give us the

506
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Speaker 1: name of the theme, Danielle. Our theme this week is

507
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: Cissy spacek is the fucking best, plain and simple, just there.

508
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: It is.

509
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: It is. It is that fact.

510
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have.

511
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, like, I don't know about your thoughts

512
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: about her. I know that we've already seen and talked

513
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: about one Sissy SpaceX movie so far three women on

514
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 1: an early episode, but also too you know, I think

515
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: that there are so many of her movies that we

516
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: would put in episodes just because I mean, I know

517
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna do at least one more in the next

518
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: couple months. But she's just.

519
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: Such a to me.

520
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: She's I mean, she's my favorite actress of all time.

521
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 2: What is it about her that makes her your favorite

522
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 2: actress of all time? Like, is there I know there

523
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: are movies that you love about her, but if they're

524
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 2: like a particular way she acts or things that like

525
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: what was the first thing that you saw her? And

526
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: where your life? I absolutely love Sissy Space.

527
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 1: Well, honestly, it's the film that you're going to talk

528
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 1: about that was definitely something I saw very early on

529
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: in life and thought, holy shit, like who is this woman?

530
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: And Three Women certainly another movie where I just was

531
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: like completely mesmerized by her. I mean, honestly, I think

532
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: for me is that I just love her vibe. She's

533
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: so interesting to me. She has this like amazing ability

534
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: to seem both like.

535
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 2: Old but then really young. Yeah when she wants to be. Yes,

536
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about that for sure, because in

537
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: my film, she was twenty five playing this teenager the

538
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: seventeen year old and fully fit the bill, but the

539
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: same in Three Women, where she morphs into from this

540
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: young girl into this adult woman with very simple, subtle

541
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: moves that not very many people can do.

542
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: I also really like her because she's got this naturalness

543
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: to her that I love, like it's almost like a

544
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: raw kind of earth equality to her that I think

545
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: actually makes her kind of relatable in spite of like

546
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: the roles that she plays, especially early in her career,

547
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: that are like very you know, complex and weird and

548
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: kind of strange. Because honestly, I think that the earthiness

549
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: comes from the fact that she's kind of a country gal.

550
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: I mean, she's from Texas. That to me, I mean,

551
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: I'll go but I'll go into that in a second,

552
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: because I really do think that the reason why I

553
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: like her so much is tied to my southernness. And

554
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: you can hear like a little bit of that, like

555
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: Texas twang and her voice when she acts, and I

556
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: love that. And you know, I'm from the South.

557
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:37,239
Speaker 2: You know.

558
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: I think people probably know that by now, and I

559
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: think that that is like a part of why I

560
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: like her so much. I moved to South Carolina when

561
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: I was five years old and basically lived between South

562
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: Carolina and Georgia until I was almost forty, so I

563
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: lived many many years in the Deep South. I like

564
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: her because, you know, she seems like a Southern gal.

565
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: She seems like somebody that I can kind of identify with.

566
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: And you know, and I will say that the Deep

567
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: South and Texas it's similar but also very different. Like

568
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: there's a difference between being from Alabama and being from Texas. Okay,

569
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: but I love people from Texas. Like some of my

570
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: favorite actors and actresses are from Texas. Not just Sissy spacek,

571
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: but I mean I love women from Texas. Did you

572
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: see The Righteous Gemstones? Did you watch that show? Naturally? Okay,

573
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: the woman who plays Judy Jemstone, Edie Patterson, she's from Texas.

574
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: I knew it from the moment she started talking. I

575
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: was like, she's got to be from Texas. And I

576
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: looked it up. And that's totally true, because honestly, like

577
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: I feel like Southern actors see for some reason, I

578
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: feel like they see more authentic. And there are a

579
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Speaker 1: lot of times there are character actors, which of course

580
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: you know I live, but honestly, it's that when you

581
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Speaker 1: watch movies and TV. You always hear so many bad

582
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: Southern accents, right, and you could always tell when someone

583
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: is a real Southerner because you can tell the accent,

584
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Speaker 1: like Edie Patterson, like even like Danny McBride and Walton

585
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: Goggins or like Owen Wilson something like that, like you know, Okay,

586
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: these are people from the South, because this is a

587
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: real Southern accent.

588
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: It's not a fake TV And it's not like over

589
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: dramatically emphasizing the Southern because I don't think people think

590
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: there's subtlety that exists in the South because of these

591
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: bad stereotypes. So it is like a totally different experience

592
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: to hear someone from the South speaking.

593
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's way more kind of baked in than you

594
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: know whatever, like fucking Green Acres shit that people knew.

595
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: But I'll to get into a little bit of backstory

596
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: about Sissy's spasic. I mean, she initially wanted to be

597
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: a singer, and when she was eighteen in the late sixties,

598
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: she recorded a song that was called it's actually online.

599
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: You can listen to it right now if you want to.

600
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: It's called John You Went Too Far This Time, which

601
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: is a great title, but it's basically, this like sunshine

602
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: pop song about John Lennon and Yoko Ono posing naked

603
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: on the cover of that album two Versions or whatever,

604
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: where they're just like totally naked head to toe. She's like, yeah,

605
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: but she didn't have a ton of success as a singer, unfortunately,

606
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: so she eventually switched to acting, honestly, thanks to some

607
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: help from her cousin, who is Rip Torn. I don't

608
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: know if people really know that, but ripped Torn is

609
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: her cousin. I love Rip Torn too. He is amazing,

610
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: was amazing because he passed away sadly, but I just

611
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: think it's incredible that they're related.

612
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: But you know, at the.

613
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: Same time too, as she was sort of like moving

614
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: out of singing and going into acting, she had a

615
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: brother that passed away from leukemia, and from you know

616
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: what she's told, it changed her life. Like basically it

617
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: was like a wake up call for her to say that,

618
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: you know, she should do the things that she wants

619
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: to do and be fearless. I think it explains a

620
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: lot about the kind of actor that she eventually became

621
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: and why we kind of love her. Her first movie,

622
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,719
Speaker 1: I mean was honestly, this is pretty insane, but like,

623
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: her first movie was an Andy Warhol movie, and she

624
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: was kind of like a part of the factory for

625
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: a little while. She was in Women in Revolt. She

626
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: was just an extra, but she was modeling and all

627
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: this stuff. And her first credited role besides Women in

628
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: Revolt and some other extra stuff, was that she was

629
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: in Prime Cut, which is this absolutely insane movie where

630
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: she's basically naked the entire time, like top and bottom,

631
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: and it's like this crazy Lee Marvin Gene Hackman movie.

632
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't even tell you, it's insane. But

633
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: her breakout role, though, was in bad Lands, which is

634
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: an amazing film. You know, obviously it's about the true

635
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: crimes of Charles Starkweather and Carol Ane Fuguet and it's

636
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: her and Martin Sheen.

637
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 2: We all probably know and love it.

638
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: It's a Terrence Malick movie, so it looks beautiful. But yeah,

639
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: that's where she met her husband, Jack Fisk, who was

640
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: the production designer on the film, and you know, and

641
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: they are still together. I mean, they've had this like

642
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: kind of amazing Hollywood you know, adjacent sort of marriage

643
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: and they're you know, they have two kids and one

644
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 1: I guess I think one of her daughters is also

645
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: an actor. Now I don't know if both of them are,

646
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: but one of them is. And she just has had

647
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: a incredible career and she's been in so many good

648
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: movies that you know, we would love to talk about.

649
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: She was in tons of television and she's still working

650
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: and I just I just love her. I think she's

651
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: beautiful and awesome and intriguing, and you know, I'm just

652
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: glad that you know, you've given me some space to

653
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: like really go off on her. But I can't wait

654
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: to talk about our movies.

655
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 2: Honestly, she is amazing to me. And did you ever

656
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: watch Bloodline on Netflix? No?

657
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: No, I haven't.

658
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: She plays the mom in that, and it is good.

659
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it is good if you're looking for another

660
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: series to get into. But I get excited when I

661
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 2: see her on screen, Like I didn't know what she

662
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 2: was going to be in that. I didn't like read

663
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 2: too much about it before it came out, So when

664
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 2: she came out of this house, I was just like,

665
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 2: oh is this space? Act Like you just know you're

666
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: going to see something good when she's around. She's a

667
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 2: phenomenal actress and also just seems kind of like she's

668
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: one of these these actors who doesn't seem to have

669
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: been affected negatively by her Hollywood experience. So I don't

670
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 2: know if that's because she pull that is because of

671
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: maybe part of her southernness that she pulled back enough

672
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 2: to like not raise her kids in Hollywood and still

673
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: live in Texas, and you know, she really maintained a

674
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 2: sense of self that I think a lot of actors

675
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: of her time lost by being kind of sucked into

676
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: the system. So there's some kind of strength in her

677
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: that I can identify with with seeing her on film,

678
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: because you need a lot of strength to kind of

679
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 2: resist that temptation totally.

680
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, like I'm compelled by older women who

681
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: are in films now. I mean I have always been,

682
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: but I definitely am now. And when I see somebody

683
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: like Sissy Spacek, when I see like Francis McDorman in

684
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: No Manland, when I see women who are kind of

685
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: just sort of like working, they are not afraid to

686
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: look their age, it is compelling and I love it. It

687
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: gives me kind of a hope that maybe, like one

688
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: day we'll move out of the youth obsessed, fucking grid

689
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: that we're living on and you know, especially yeah, considering

690
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: like where I'm from and sort of like what the

691
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: type of woman that the South made me. I think

692
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: it makes me feel like I could identify with her

693
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, And I'm I don't know

694
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: if I'm necessarily one hundred percent right about everything, but

695
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: I do feel like I just feel connected to somebody

696
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 1: like her, and I just love her. I just think

697
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: she's great.

698
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: I love that I love them. Gets talked about her

699
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 2: on your birthday, that's really specially special. Forget Christian Latoner.

700
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 2: If anyone knows Sissy's face, I could tell her that

701
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: next year for Millie's Virgo birthday, we're going to her house.

702
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: She would shoot us off her porch so fast. She

703
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: would have like an old double barrel shotgun, like the

704
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: old hunting rifle, and just be like I said, get

705
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: off my property. I don't care if you host a podcast,

706
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: you got to get the fuck out of here.

707
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: And she'd be saying it to your corpse, because she

708
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 2: would shoot first and ask questions later.

709
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: I'd pull up along John's and go running away like

710
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: an old hillbilly cartoon.

711
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 2: Well, I'm excited to talk about her and these films

712
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: and the movie that I'm going to talk about first

713
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: is a movie from nineteen seventy six called Carrie. It

714
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 2: was directed by Brian de Palma. The original story is

715
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 2: written by Stephen King. The novel and the screenplay is

716
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: by Lawrence Cohen. The girl who lives in that creepy

717
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: house commen with her crazy mother.

718
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: Help the woman to see the cinema. Days and Ways

719
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: show him that if she had remained Symtoms, the curse

720
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: of blood would never come on.

721
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: The girl with the strange power. If I concentrate on

722
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: I fucking move things. Oh my god, you pick.

723
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: You picked the movie of all movies.

724
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: I mean, this is People throw this word around far

725
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: too much, but this movie is truly iconic. I cawmic

726
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 2: for several reasons. So the premise, of course, is that

727
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: Carrie White, played by Sissy Spacek, is a young girl

728
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: in high school who's kind of a She's on the

729
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: out she's an outcast, she's on the outskirts of her

730
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 2: peer group, and she has a very domineering, incredibly religious mother, who,

731
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: as we come to find out through the course of

732
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: the film, the whole town kind of knows about like

733
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: everyone kind of knows what's going on with the Whites,

734
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: but what they don't know is that Carrie has developed

735
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: the power of telekinesis, so she can move things with

736
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: her mind, and once she finds that out, all hell

737
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: breaks list. Ah. I love this movie because my uncle

738
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 2: loves this movie. So when I was younger and watching

739
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 2: like Heathers all summer long, he would be watching Carrie

740
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: all summer long. Like he loaned this movie. This is

741
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 2: a classic movie in my house. And so I I

742
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 2: saw very young, and I found Sissy Spaceic mesmerizing in

743
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 2: this movie because she does have kind of an eerie

744
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 2: beauty to her where she can really amp up this

745
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 2: kind of translucent factor in her face. But she was

746
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: just mesmer like I could not take every time she

747
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 2: was on the screen, I'm like, what is she going

748
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 2: to do next? I could not take my eyes off

749
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: of her. And this film really it's it's kind of

750
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: about the cruelty of children, of course, but it's really

751
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: about the cruelty of misunderstanding and of not being open

752
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: to people in general. So we have this incredible cast

753
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 2: of character as her mother, Margaret is played by Piper

754
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,479
Speaker 2: Laurie Oh other iconic role.

755
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: Okay, real quick, on a scale of one to ten,

756
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: how terrifying is Piper Laurie and Carrie Go eleven? Yeah,

757
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: I was gonna say like two hundred and seventy.

758
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 2: Fives, like much more accurate, because she's also doing some

759
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 2: subtle stuff with her face that is like, oh, is

760
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: she really unhinged? Like when I was growing up, I

761
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,439
Speaker 2: thought I did not know Piper Laurie was acting. Let's

762
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: put it that way.

763
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy because like, honestly, like I think not

764
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people you would have to go pretty

765
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: far back to know like about.

766
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 2: Her and the hustler and all that stuff like that.

767
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: But it's that thing where like if you're just a

768
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: child and you don't know the actor's history or somebody,

769
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: you're like, this is a real life monster in a

770
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: human form, and she is so scary. I mean, and

771
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: maybe that's another I mean, I don't know if that's

772
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: a Southern thing too, but like deeply religious, like do

773
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: you remember Flowers in the Attic When they did the

774
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: movie adaptation of Flowers of the Attic and the Louis

775
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: Fletcher would play the deeply religious grandma and they're always

776
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: wearing these like cloaks and it's like very intense eyes

777
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: and I mean, dude, I was so scared of Piper

778
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: Laurie do this. Even when I rewatched it, like for

779
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: this podcast, I was like, yeah, holy shit, this shit

780
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 1: still hits.

781
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 2: Man Like Piper's coming. She's got that creepy ast Jesus

782
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 2: that looks just like her. There are something that's something

783
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 2: that I even picked up on as a kid. I'm like,

784
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 2: that Jesus statue looks like her. And then when you

785
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 2: get to the end of the movie, you're like, oh, damn, damn,

786
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: because Jesus statue is a little I mean, it's crucial

787
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 2: to the plot in a lot of ways, but like

788
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: it was scare re. I mean, I think that that

789
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: Christianity is one hundred percent single handedly keeping the cloak

790
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: business in going. They're keeping the cloak business going. Cloaks

791
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: and capes, y'all.

792
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: Y'all, y'all still fucking with cloaks and capes.

793
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: People hardcore And what I love about this So she

794
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 2: she is terrifying and I truly did not know she

795
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 2: was acting when I was a kid. I thought she

796
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: was just scary. But then you also have Amy Irving

797
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: who plays so Snell, who kind of starts out like

798
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: a real bitch but then gets like a sense of

799
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: she gets her humanity back. Tommy Ross played by William Katt.

800
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: William Katt talk about him.

801
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: In this movie was just all teeth and hair and

802
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 2: just youth and vibrant, a little bit of a hubble

803
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 2: from the way we were feeling.

804
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: Oh, I have that written down on my paper, I said,

805
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: tell me about it. He is the hubble gardener of

806
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: this movie. Look's attitude wants to be a writer. Why

807
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: did I never pick up on that.

808
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 2: Before me either because I'd never seen the way we were,

809
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: But now that I have, I'm like, wait a minute,

810
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 2: why and why did the seventies work so hard to

811
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 2: try to make us think that all of these athletes

812
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 2: were like sensitive writers. Which is why I loved when

813
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 2: later in the film he's like, I didn't write that

814
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: thing there that he read out in class. This teacher

815
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: who was off his rocker read out in class. That

816
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 2: teacher is like a bit much.

817
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: There's a great Sidney lassic like stone cold freak.

818
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: Uh. I was like.

819
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: There was a moment too of the of Carrie where

820
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: the William cat character was like you know, She's like,

821
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: why is this so important to you that you you

822
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: want to go to PROMI with me, And he's like,

823
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: because you liked my poem. I was like, bitch, that

824
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,959
Speaker 1: is hubble hubble to a t to, a tactic fuck

825
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: boy behavior classic. But it's like, it's funny because I

826
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: was Actually I got a big crush on William Cat

827
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: because I was obsessed with the Greatest American Hero. Yeah,

828
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: and so when I saw him in Carrie, because obviously

829
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: I saw a Greatest American hero first and then went

830
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: back and saw Carry, and then I was like, oh,

831
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 1: he sucks, suck him.

832
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had a normal childhood. If you had had

833
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: the Carry experience first, you'd be like, then you'd watch

834
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 2: the Greatest American Hero, you'd be like, he's not a

835
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: good guy. Like what, I guess people get better? Yeah,

836
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: I guess people get better. He was a lie. It's

837
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: a lie all around, no matter how you look at it.

838
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 2: But then we also have in this film Betty Buckley,

839
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: who plays the very attentive gym teacher, attentive and really

840
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 2: into corporal punishment, like she is slapping people left and

841
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 2: right in this movie.

842
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: Listen, I want to slap Nancy Allen too. Let's get serious.

843
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: She had a coming.

844
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 2: This was John Travolta's first movie too. He'd only been

845
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: in Welcome Back. Caught her on TV and then this

846
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 2: was his first his first film role.

847
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got. It's so funny because I noticed this

848
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: time around that there the whole thing with Nancy Allen

849
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: John Travolta.

850
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I know, it's.

851
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: Interesting just because Nancy Allen was married to Brian de

852
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: Palma and they did blowout and all that stuff. So

853
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: it's just funny to go back and see Carry and

854
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: be like, wow, look at these two ding dongs. She

855
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: is the perfect bad girl. Like she is the like

856
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck about school, and I want

857
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: to give a fuck about Carrie White. I just you know,

858
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: Carry White eat shit. Yeah, and you know, I'm just

859
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: gonna go out with my like hot boyfriend and you know,

860
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: do a bunch of bad stuff and tell off my teacher.

861
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: The epitome of that. She really played that to a

862
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: te perfect. And this is this is a film about

863
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 2: high schoolers, Like these are all kids in high school

864
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: and the prom is coming up. I did read an interview.

865
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: There was something I read on mental Floss, and I

866
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 2: think it was fifteen Creepy Facts about Carrie by Jennifer Wood.

867
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 2: This was Stephen King's first story that was made into

868
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: a film. Sissy's basic was twenty five when she made

869
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: this movie, which I just find fascinating because I fully

870
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 2: believe she was a teenager. But Stephen King was basically like, yeah,

871
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 2: Brian DePalma.

872
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 4: He took a more.

873
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: Artistic approach with this film than I would have taken,

874
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: because the beginning is like basically soft porn. It's like

875
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: teenage girls and a Jim shower and you're like, what

876
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 2: am I watching? And the music is like lilting and

877
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: very like dude.

878
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: Like I said, it's like I said in the Three

879
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: Women episode, I love a psychotic flute and a psychotic

880
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 1: seventies flont And that's exactly what happens in the opening credits.

881
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: And this is for a scene that has so much

882
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: now horror, because what kicks this movie off is the

883
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 2: terrifying ordeal of Carrie, who's been raised by a purely

884
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: religious parent, getting her first period in the gym shower

885
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 2: and she thinks she's dying, so she's just bleeding, doesn't

886
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 2: know what a period is and then just kind of

887
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: crawls out in this creepy crawl out of the shower

888
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 2: and starts grabbing at people with her bloody hands. So

889
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: now like Amy Irving Sous now has like bloody handprints

890
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: on her fucking smock shirt for the rest of the day.

891
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: And there's a scene where the gym teacher is talking

892
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 2: to the principle about what happened. Oh man, she's got

893
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 2: like a bloody handprint on her white jim shorts and

894
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 2: he keeps like looking at it, like, oh, oh my god,

895
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 2: it's so funny.

896
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: I have that written down too, because I was basically

897
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: like I love that. That was a moment to show

898
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: of this like old stupid man who's like, ew, period blood.

899
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: I fucking hate women's periods.

900
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: You know. It's just that.

901
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: Moment of like a guy just been like I don't

902
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: know and I don't care leave out of it.

903
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 2: He was also one of these dudes who would fully

904
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: have just called it menstruation and like pronounced every syllable

905
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: she's menstruating.

906
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was like funny, there.

907
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: Was a way to open a movie, boy, let me

908
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: tell you. And I also feel like her telekinesis she

909
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 2: does blow out a light with her telekinesis in this

910
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 2: moment because she's so worked up and the gym teacher

911
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: trying to calm her down. I feel like that telekinesis

912
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 2: could have come in handy and just like zip some

913
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 2: Maxi pads over, like zip something, zip, zip something over

914
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: to help you out in that moment. But instead you

915
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 2: have the cruelty of age and these teenagers who are

916
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: just throwing tampons and pads at her, to the point

917
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 2: where Amy Irving just like rips the cover off of

918
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 2: the pad dispenser on the wall. She's like feral and

919
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 2: they're just throwing pads at her and telling her to

920
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 2: plug it up. So this is what kicks off this film, Like,

921
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 2: you know, she's an outcast, you know that she has

922
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 2: not had the same education culturally that a lot of

923
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 2: her peers have had, and that now she also has

924
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: this power and she's what's interesting about this to me

925
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 2: is that she also, in discovering this power, she doesn't

926
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: instantly know what it is like she has to go

927
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: to the library and kind of read about it and

928
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 2: read about the mysticism and read about the miracle of

929
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 2: what she's able to do. But then she goes home,

930
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 2: and let me tell you about going home to the

931
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 2: White House. If you get your period and you live

932
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 2: in the White House, you're going to be locked in

933
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 2: a closet with Jesus.

934
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: That creepy Jesus closet. Holy shit, and your mom.

935
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 2: Just imagine anyone out here who's ever gotten a period,

936
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: Just imagine going home and your mom. You're like, hey, mom,

937
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 2: school not so great. Got my period in school? You

938
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 2: should have told me about that. And her instant retort

939
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 2: is the raven was called sin and you're tempted by

940
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 2: the Antichrist, and don't you like imagine that? And I'm

941
00:49:58,440 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 2: sure something you don't have to that could have been

942
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 2: experience in a religious household. I don't know, but this

943
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 2: is what level she's on, where she doesn't speak in

944
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 2: normal human sentences. She speaks in scripture. Yes, And so

945
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: she's not connecting or relating to this kid at all.

946
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 2: And she drags her and locks her in a closet

947
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 2: and it's just like homegirl, let's red tent this shit.

948
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 2: Maybe you come out in a week when you've thought

949
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 2: about what he So this is where we're starting. The

950
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 2: only good thing that came out of the scene, is

951
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 2: that at least everyone got detention, like the gym teacher

952
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: had had it. And she's like, I really wanted to

953
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: take away your ability to go to the prom, but

954
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: instead you're gonna do a week of Jim detention with me.

955
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna have you I heard doing Jumpin' Jackson

956
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: the Hot Sun. How do you like that? And they're like,

957
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 2: we hate it, and she's like, too bad. So this

958
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 2: is where Nancy flips out Nancy Allen. Yeah, So this

959
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 2: Chris Harginson character is like, I'm not doing Jim detention.

960
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 2: You can suck my fucking dick. I'm out of here.

961
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 2: And so she does get her prom privileges suspended, and

962
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 2: in order to rectify what's happened and in a way

963
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 2: that she takes no responsibility for it whatsoever, she decides

964
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 2: to get back at Carrie because Carrie is clearly the

965
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 2: one that caused this, you know, the throwing the tampons

966
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 2: at her is what got them all in trouble. So

967
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: she and her boyfriend decide to go and get a

968
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 2: bunch of pigs blood, fill up a bucket with it,

969
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 2: and then rig the whole prom so that Carrie wins

970
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 2: prom queen and gets this bucket of blood dumped on her.

971
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 2: That's kind of the iconic imagery that you see in

972
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 2: the iconic moment. But the way that all happened, I thought,

973
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: I didn't really appreciate that. They try to make me

974
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: feel like Amy Irving's character Sue and William Kat's character

975
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 2: Tommy were like good people after all bullshit. We saw you.

976
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,280
Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate that.

977
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, because here's the thing. Carrie is

978
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: an incredible, iconic film. I love it despite anything, pretty much,

979
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: even the fact that I truly forget, and I've seen

980
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: this movie many times, I always forget that they are

981
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: supposed to not have known about this shit, right. And

982
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: that's the thing about the film that I don't actually

983
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 1: think it does a really great job of is making

984
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: Amy Irving.

985
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 2: That character like.

986
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: The only real way that you know that she is

987
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: in any way contrite about the shit that they did

988
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: in the locker room is that she basically tells Chris

989
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: to shut up during that gym sequence where she's like,

990
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: come on, everybody, let's overthrow the gym teacher, and she's

991
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: basically like, shut up. That is really kind of the

992
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 1: only clue to know that maybe she's having a change

993
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: of heart, because the other thing is that like she

994
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: just doesn't like even the moment where she's like trying

995
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 1: to tell Tommy like hey, ask her out, there isn't

996
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: even really a lot of that that felt believable to

997
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: me where she was just like listen, I you know,

998
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: there's this girl that everybody picks on and we did

999
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: a shitty ass thing, and I'm tired of hanging out

1000
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: with these other mean girls PJ Souls and Nancy Allen

1001
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: suck and I want to Heather's them okay, and do

1002
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: me a solid and just like take her instead of me,

1003
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: because you're also a good person too. Write like they

1004
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: don't set up their goodness enough when the prom happens.

1005
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 1: I'm always like, oh, yeah, I forgot that they don't

1006
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: know about the.

1007
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 2: Pig's blood exactly. Yeah, because I thought they were all

1008
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 2: in on it. Like my memory was like, oh, they

1009
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 2: were all in on it with their friend and they

1010
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: all set her up. So I totally space that part out. Yeah,

1011
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,479
Speaker 2: they don't do enough to set up the goodness, which

1012
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 2: might be more believable because I don't think that people

1013
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 2: are instantly remorseful when they realize they've done something wrong

1014
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 2: at that age. So it did feel a little bit

1015
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 2: believable that like she'd be like, all right, let me

1016
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 2: just try to smooth this over in my own way,

1017
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 2: which is my own way is kind of not being

1018
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 2: obvious or saying anything about my role in this, but

1019
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 2: just trying to fix it without actually admitting I did

1020
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: anything wrong. So that feels a little bit weird to me.

1021
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:30,439
Speaker 1: But yeah, she fixes it with essentially another plot that's

1022
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: destined to fail. Like That's the thing that I also

1023
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: don't get is like she heard her much. She's like,

1024
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: you know what, let me just get my boyfriend to

1025
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: ask her out. And the funny thing is is that

1026
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: the Betty Buckley character is actually saying like, okay, what

1027
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: are you all up to? Its stupid, And they're both

1028
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: having that moment where they're like in the office and

1029
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: they're like, well, we just thought it would be a

1030
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: good idea, and Betty Buckley is like, you listen, all right,

1031
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: don't be these assholes, like don't what are you like nuts?

1032
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: Like leave this poor girl alone and don't ask her out.

1033
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 2: Miss Collins has had it, She has had it, and

1034
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 2: even in that scene. That scene is really wild because

1035
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 2: they're kind of like laughing through it and like what's

1036
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 2: the problem, Like, we're just doing a nice thing. So

1037
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 2: I didn't even believe them. I'm like, you're not making

1038
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 2: this believable enough that you're gonna give Carrie a good time.

1039
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 2: But she does, like Harry, kind of goes on to

1040
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 2: have the time of her life. But she's also freaked out,

1041
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: like she's asking tons of questions, like constantly, like why

1042
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 2: are you asking me? And what do you like? I'm

1043
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 2: surprised there wasn't just like a mess of pencils and

1044
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 2: notebooks flying telecanese sissing around her head the whole time

1045
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: because she was bugging out. But then she finally gets

1046
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 2: into it and has the night of her life, the

1047
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 2: night of her young life. She's having fun, she's doing

1048
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 2: her thing. Then here come these assholes, fucking Billy Nolan

1049
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 2: and Chris Harginson, and they just exact the worst kind

1050
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 2: of revenge. So Carrie covered in blood is the moment

1051
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 2: that even if you haven't ever seen this film, you've

1052
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 2: seen this scene because she kicks into overdrive and essentially

1053
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 2: before she sets fire to everyone in the school, she

1054
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 2: hoses them down. There's like this kind of six snake

1055
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: like hose that comes out, and she's hosing people down

1056
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 2: and she's getting her revenge by just looking at things

1057
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 2: and lighting them on fire. And then she walks out.

1058
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 2: And then the coolest scene in the world to me

1059
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 2: as a kid is when Billy Nolan and Chris escape

1060
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 2: and so does Amy Irvingles. She's not in the building

1061
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 2: when it's on fire, but Chris tries to run her

1062
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 2: down while she's walking home, because what do you do

1063
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 2: when you're covered in blood and you've just killed all

1064
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 2: your classmates? You just go home, you know. And you

1065
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 2: know what, a fire truck just breathed, right bire, Like

1066
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 2: no one's stopping for the teenage girl covered in blood

1067
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 2: in the seventies, are just gonna let her go. So

1068
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 2: she's going home. Chris is trying to run her down

1069
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 2: in this car and Carrie just kind of stops and

1070
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 2: pulls this pose and the car flips and she kills them.

1071
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 2: Like the car just flips and rolls, and I'm like,

1072
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 2: that is so cool. I don't know what. I really

1073
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 2: was attracted to the weirdest parts of movies when I

1074
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 2: was a kid. But there was something very cool to

1075
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 2: me about the fact that they fucked around and found out. Essentially,

1076
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 2: this whole movie is they fucked around and found out.

1077
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: Well, and that is I think why people love this

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00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: movie so much is because, first of all, I think

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Speaker 1: the fear of the film comes from this idea that Carrie,

1080
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: for maybe the first time, is trying to trust somebody

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00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: and and trusts her vulnerability, you know, and her trauma,

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00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: and they fucked her over and maybe you know, now

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00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: that I'm thinking about it, I'm like, yeah, maybe it

1084
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: is sort of more compelling at the end of the

1085
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: day to make the Amy Irving and William Kat characters

1086
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: a little bit more vague, because you do question whether

1087
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: or not they were authentic and wanting to like give

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00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: this girl the night of her life, right if they

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00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,439
Speaker 1: weren't also just trying to like pull some shit on her,

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Speaker 1: or even if it's consciously or unconsciously. You know, but

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00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: it's that thing where like the payoff of it is

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00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: fucking cathartic for the shit that they put her through,

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00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: for all the humiliation, and you know, it's just sort

1094
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: of like that thing where you're like, yes, absolutely, torch

1095
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: this place. Yeah, you know, I don't know if the

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00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: good ethicle, but do it, bitch, like we love you,

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00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: We're behind you.

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00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 2: There's no redeeming qualities in anyone in this building except

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00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 2: Ms Collins maybe, but she also beats up a student,

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00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 2: so maybe not even.

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00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: I say that's deserved, honestly.

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Speaker 2: And what's really wild is like she goes home and again,

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00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 2: here's where we have to have this conversation about whether

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00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 2: or not we talk about the ending. But I will

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00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 2: say this, any moment you walk into your house and

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00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 2: your mother has lit a candle, every candle in town

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00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 2: is inside your house, including two pillar tapered candles on

1108
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 2: the bed, like on the mattress. You know, some shits

1109
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 2: about the pop off. She had every candlelit in that

1110
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 2: goddamn house. Carrie comes home and it's like washing the

1111
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: blood off of her. And I won't spoil the ending,

1112
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 2: but I will say that Sissy Spasik in this fifteen

1113
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 2: Facts about the Carrie movie that I read on Mental Floss,

1114
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 2: Sissy Spasik was so game to scare people. And there's

1115
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: a moment at the end of this film where she's like, no,

1116
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 2: I gotta do that myself, and it is great. It

1117
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 2: is great, great, great, great great. And I love the

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00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 2: ending of this movie because Sue the doctors were kind

1119
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 2: of like, you know, she'll be all right, you know,

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Speaker 2: it'll be fine. And then she has this dream essentially

1121
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: where she's going to Carrie's house to put flowers on

1122
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 2: her her because Carrie's died at the end, and Carrie's

1123
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 2: arm reaches up and snatches her, and you snap back

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00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: to reality and Sue is not going to be okay,

1125
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 2: and you're like, you know what, all right, S's not alright,

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Speaker 2: She's not alright, and maybe she deserves to live with that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, And that's the thing too, is that very rarely

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Speaker 1: in horror you see like the mental health check after

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01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: the traumatic event, right, Like, it's usually just like end

1130
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: of traumatic event. Who knows what happens to all of

1131
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: these scarred individuals.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I love this movie. This is one of those

1133
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 2: movies that is it is a classic for a reason.

1134
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 2: I think that generationally people will always be able to

1135
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 2: find something to love about this film.

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Speaker 1: I think everybody likes Carrie, everybody. It is one of

1137
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: the most ultimate portrayals of teen angst and the hardships

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01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: of teenage life. I mean it's so iconic. She is

1139
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: the reason why it's iconic. I mean, honestly, how many

1140
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: times has that image of her in the dress that

1141
01:00:55,640 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: she made covered in blood been you know, parodied. She's

1142
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: an icon for that reason, and I'm just so glad

1143
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: you picked it. My only regret is that Amy Irving

1144
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: and William Kat's characters didn't live and have curly haired children,

1145
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: because they're all gonna have curly hair.

1146
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 2: Oh, the naps, the naps, the instant dreadlocks kid would

1147
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 2: be born. Oh yeah, these.

1148
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: Are two curly people.

1149
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 3: And they dated.

1150
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 2: In real life before they filmed this for like a

1151
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 2: little while, and I'm like, wow, I didn't know that. Actually, wow,

1152
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 2: that is a choice. I love this movie.

1153
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: Could have picked a better movie, absolutely, you know what.

1154
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 2: It starts with blood and water and it ends with

1155
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 2: blood and water, and I kind of love that book end.

1156
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: Are you sure you're not a film person, because honestly

1157
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: you are.

1158
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 2: I'm just astute. I'm just a very astute observer. All right.

1159
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: We got a second Sissy, by the way, her name

1160
01:01:54,640 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 1: is her full name is Mary Elizabeth Space, but she

1161
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 1: goes by Sissy, which I feel like never happens anymore.

1162
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: Like anybody named Mary Elizabeth is either going to be

1163
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: Mary Elizabeth Beth Liz, but not a lot of sissies.

1164
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 2: I wish they were more.

1165
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do like it. I think it's I think

1166
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 1: it sounds very Southern. Okay, so my choice for this week,

1167
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: our Queen Cissy Spacek is the fucking Best. Is a

1168
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: movie from nineteen eighty It's called Coal Miner's Daughter. It

1169
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: was directed by Michael Apton.

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Speaker 2: Young Lady Number one, Baby, they're out there waiting on you.

1171
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Speaker 3: Now.

1172
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 4: You don't want to let them know.

1173
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 2: Don't tell me about letting them The first lady of music.

1174
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 2: Things is moving too fast and mother t Us breaks up.

1175
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 2: I'll quit successful people don't quit, baby.

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Speaker 1: So I know I didn't mention this in the intro,

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01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: but you know she Sissy Spacek has been nominated six

1178
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: times for an oscar and she's only won one so far,

1179
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: but it's for this movie. So this was the one

1180
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: she won. And it was based off of the autobiography

1181
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: of the country music sayer Loretta Lynn. Essentially, she grew

1182
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: up in a holler in Kentucky, which I'm sure everybody

1183
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 1: knows this by now, but basically, holler means hollow in

1184
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: the parlance of that part of.

1185
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 2: The South, which I only learned about from watching Justified.

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01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 2: I'm being completely honest.

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01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: I completely understand, because I think a lot of people

1188
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: did to be honest. But you know, the real life,

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Speaker 1: Loretta Lynn grew up in a in Butcher Holler, and

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Speaker 1: she was in a coal mining family, which is also

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Speaker 1: very typical of that part of the South and also

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Speaker 1: a big part of Justified, which, by the way, we

1193
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: talk about Justified a lot because it's fucking great.

1194
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 2: It's so good. It's so good.

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01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: I used to call it my straight guys because I

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01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 1: love it so fucking much. Like I stand, I'm a

1197
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: Justified stand So.

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Speaker 2: Every season is better than the last, and you can't

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Speaker 2: believe it because there are things that they bring up

1200
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 2: in one season that you're like, how they're gonna get

1201
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 2: themselves out of this, and then they do and then

1202
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 2: they elevate it and it's incredible.

1203
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I told myself I was going to rewatch

1204
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 1: that show for Quarantine, and I never got around to it,

1205
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: So that shit's happening starting tomorrow anyway. Well, first of all,

1206
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go too too much into Loretta

1207
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 1: Lynn's background, but in general, she's an amazing bad ass.

1208
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: Like she's tough, she's beautiful. I love her music. I mean,

1209
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: there is like a reason why I want to go

1210
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: around calling literally everything I do fift city.

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Speaker 2: I never heard that song fist city. That's my karaoke song.

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01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 4: Yes, the best two words put together the lyrics of

1213
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 4: this song, you better close your face and get out

1214
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 4: of my way.

1215
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 2: I want that tattooed on every inch of my body.

1216
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, listen, we should call this podcast this city.

1217
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 2: All right.

1218
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can do that now, but

1219
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: we should have called it that. We were dumb to

1220
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: have not thought of it. But honestly, like, Loretta Lynn

1221
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: is an icon as well. I mean there's actually there's

1222
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: this great episode of the podcast Cocaine and Ryan Stones

1223
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: that Tyler does about Loretta Lynn and one of her

1224
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: songs that I encourage, like everybody to check out. I

1225
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 1: think it was from the last season. I just heard

1226
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: that he's doing a new season, so that's it's very

1227
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: exciting because I love that podcast. But the Loretta Lynn

1228
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: episode he did was amazing. So the director of Coal

1229
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Speaker 1: Miner's Daughter is Michael Aptid, who I mentioned before and

1230
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 1: he just passed away this year in January.

1231
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:46,959
Speaker 2: And he has a.

1232
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: Huge, huge filmography, both film and TV. And he's best

1233
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: known for directing the Up series. And I'm sure a

1234
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: lot of people know him for that.

1235
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 2: When don't we get in sixty three up in the States?

1236
01:05:56,720 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I never know about the when

1237
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: this happens for TV as well, like when British stuff

1238
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 1: comes to America. Like I'm like, how when does that happen?

1239
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 1: And like how does that work? If anybody who works

1240
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 1: in British TV wants to write us, I saw what

1241
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: she did. Pot at gmail dot com. Give us the inside,

1242
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: just send.

1243
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 2: Us a link to sixty three up and explain how

1244
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 2: it takes so long to get shit here because I subscribed.

1245
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 2: I subscribed to BritBox. Okay, I should have it.

1246
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always been a mystery. But so Loretta apparently

1247
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: picked Sissy to play her based on a photograph that

1248
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: she saw. She had never even seen a movie of hers,

1249
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: and then you know Sissy Spacek. I think initially was

1250
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: from what I've read, she was kind of choosing between

1251
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 1: a couple different things, like she wasn't necessarily sure she

1252
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 1: wanted to do coal miner's daughter. But then eventually she said, yeah,

1253
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: she went to Loretta Lynn spent an afternoon listening to her,

1254
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: like telling stories, recorded them so she could get her

1255
01:06:56,560 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: accent and her singing voice right. And honestly gotta say

1256
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 1: it's amazing, Like does she did an incredible job.

1257
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 2: I know that that's what this movie is known for.

1258
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 2: But you know, but I didn't realize that she sings

1259
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 2: all the songs because I thought she sounds so much

1260
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 2: like we redda Lynn. That has to be redda Lynn singing.

1261
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, her and Beverly D'Angelo sang, which is another

1262
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: point of why I think people really like this movie,

1263
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 1: because you know, they do all their own singing. And

1264
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 1: the funny thing is is I read that Sissy Spacec

1265
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 1: pitched the idea of singing simply to not be in

1266
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: the movie. They thought, oh, if I pitch myself to

1267
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: sing the songs, they certainly won't hire me. And then

1268
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 1: I get him out, but they were like, actually, you

1269
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 1: did a really good job, so now you have to

1270
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 1: be in this movie.

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01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 2: Sorry, it backfired.

1272
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: So I also want to say this too, because there's

1273
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: this really interesting thing about movies in the late seventies

1274
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 1: and early eighties in that there was a lot of

1275
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: movies in this time period about country music. And you know,

1276
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure why that is. Probably because of

1277
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 1: Urban Cowboy. Maybe it's like a holdover from like this

1278
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: sort of smoking the Bandit deliverance type of stuff that

1279
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: was happening in the seventies. Or maybe there was just

1280
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 1: also like a spike in the popularity of country music

1281
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 1: in like the late seventies early eighties, or maybe just

1282
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 1: like a lot of like focus on southern life. I

1283
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 1: don't know, but you know, there was a lot of

1284
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: movies in this time period that were about country music.

1285
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 1: So it was it was not just Cole Matter's Daughter

1286
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 1: an urban Cowboy. It was like honeysevill Rose, The Night

1287
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:37,440
Speaker 1: the Lights Went Out, Georgia, Ryan Stone, Tendor, Mercy Songwriter.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is when Dolly.

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Speaker 2: Parton was in all the movies, Chris.

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Speaker 1: Chrostopherson, Jerry Reid, like Willie Nelson, like people were acting

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Speaker 1: in like motion pictures. And you know, as we talked

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Speaker 1: about last month for Black History Month, I'm always interested

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Speaker 1: and why suddenly do we have this proliferation of some

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Speaker 1: kind of genre or some type the film you know,

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01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 1: it's obviously because something made money and now they just

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Speaker 1: want to keep making money until it.

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Speaker 2: Stops, right exactly.

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Speaker 1: It's just very interesting. But you know, the funny thing

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Speaker 1: is is that you mentioned that Sissy was in her

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Speaker 1: late in her mid twenties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she was caking when she didn't carries, so she

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Speaker 2: would have been like twenty nine, twenty twenty nine when

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Speaker 2: she did this. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well basically when it came out, she was thirty one.

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Speaker 1: But in the beginning of this movie, she's playing Loretta

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Speaker 1: Lynn at fourteen years old.

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Speaker 2: Yep. That is fucking incredible. Hell and it's believable.

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Speaker 1: Imagine making thirty one and being like, yo, you can

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Speaker 1: pass for fourteen.

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Speaker 2: That's I mean, yo, the rage.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are women in Hollywood right now that

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Speaker 1: are like, fuck, I wish I.

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Speaker 2: Could do that. They're good and men and men because

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Speaker 2: they're like I could have been in high school musical

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Speaker 2: if I could to pass her fourteen. I can sing

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Speaker 2: like a motherfucker, but I look like seventy five.

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Speaker 1: Exactly. So Colemner's Daughter is basically about Loretta's life. She

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Speaker 1: grows up a butcher Holler with her family many brothers

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Speaker 1: and sisters, her mom and dad. Her dad was played

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Speaker 1: by Levon Helm, who at the time of this movie

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Speaker 1: he was only nine years older than Sissy, but that

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Speaker 1: is her dad, right. I absolutely love Levon Helm, like fantastic.

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Speaker 1: He is so fucking cute to me. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if anybody's seen The Last Waltz, but he's adorable in

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Speaker 1: The Last Waltz.

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Speaker 2: Such a crush on him, and you.

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Speaker 1: Know, honestly, I think that this movie was the first

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Speaker 1: time that he was acting outside of, you know, being

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Speaker 1: a musician, and I actually.

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Speaker 2: Think he's a great actor. He was great, and The

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Speaker 2: Last Waltz is my favorite concert film, I think, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's so good. Also, Van Morrison has never been funnier.

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Speaker 1: Doing those las kicks, those kicks in.

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Speaker 2: That sausage tight ass suit from the seventies. Like I

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Speaker 2: he's the best unintentional comedian of his age.

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Speaker 1: So good, so good. I'm so glad that you love

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Speaker 1: it too. But he was great in this Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, a little bit of a brief synopsis. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: she's in Butcher Holler. She meets her future husband, Doolittle

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Speaker 1: named Do for short, who is played by Tommy lay Jones.

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Speaker 1: He is older than her, and you know, in real

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Speaker 1: life and in the movie obviously, and he was kind

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01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 1: of this wild man when she meets him, and she's

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01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,719
Speaker 1: obviously very like smitten with him because he just seems

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Speaker 1: kind of like fun and crazy and it's very romantic.

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Speaker 1: And in this movie, Tommy Lee Jones has died.

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Speaker 2: I guess it's like died blonde or like orange hair.

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Speaker 2: But it's kind of cute to me.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what's going on here, Like suddenly I'm like

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Speaker 1: lusting for Tommy Lee Jones, like bad hair, ed eye, a.

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Speaker 2: Box of Clara Hall. It's all it takes, don't I

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01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 2: don't know who's dream boat.

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Speaker 1: But you know, in the movie they meet, you know, obviously,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like she's expected to marry him and

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Speaker 1: have a bunch of his kids, and you know, she

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Speaker 1: ends up They end up moving to Washington State. She

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Speaker 1: starts singing and learning how to play guitar that dude

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Speaker 1: gives her, and he's very encouraging of her initially. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and she starts a music career despite the fact that

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Speaker 1: she has had four kids by the time she was nineteen.

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Speaker 2: I fourteen to nineteen a kid every year.

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Speaker 1: I can't even remember being nineteen at all. Like I

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Speaker 1: can't even I don't even know what I was doing.

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Speaker 1: I was definitely smoking like four packs of cigarettes a day.

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Speaker 1: I was like running around town being an idiot, trying

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Speaker 1: to sneak into concerts and stuff. I can't imagine being

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Speaker 1: a mom, let alone having four kids at nineteen different time,

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Speaker 1: I understand, But you know, that's that's the reality.

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Speaker 2: And that's part of the reason that like the fact

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Speaker 2: that she has a career at all is a miracle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh totally, because that's what the movie is essentially about.

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Speaker 1: It's about trying to get famous, playing at the Grand

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Speaker 1: Old Opera for the first time. You know, the epicness

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Speaker 1: of that, Like in the country music world, like that

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Speaker 1: is like the end all be all, the pressures of

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Speaker 1: eventually becoming famous, trying to balance this entire life. What

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Speaker 1: happens when like this is happening. Your dad passes away,

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01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 1: your marriage is strained, you have a nervous breakdown, you quit,

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Speaker 1: wonder if you'll ever go back. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 1: a lot of that, a lot of the pressures of

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Speaker 1: wanting something, wanting an artistic endeavor, wanting it to be

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Speaker 1: your career, but then having kids, a husband, a husband

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Speaker 1: who initially was very supportive but then suddenly is like,

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Speaker 1: well that you're famous, and I don't really know what

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Speaker 1: to do with that. How does that affect me? Tale

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01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:02,719
Speaker 1: as old as time?

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Speaker 2: And that's where fist City comes in. It's a true

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Speaker 2: miracle that she in this landscape where you know, men

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Speaker 2: still really dominated, Like, you know, there were women in country,

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Speaker 2: obviously Patsy Klein, and you know there were women in

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Speaker 2: country who made it big, but it was still very

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Speaker 2: male dominated. Feel oh absolutely, Yeah, she had kids and

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Speaker 2: the whole deal that she was really beholden to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and I will definitely want to talk about

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Speaker 1: Patsy Cline because honestly, Patsy Cline, who's in the movie

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Speaker 1: played by the wonderful Beverly Dangelou. Quite honestly, I wish

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Speaker 1: the entire movie was about Loretta Len and Patsy Cline

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Speaker 1: hanging out.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the tag team do what we deserve.

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Speaker 1: When Doolittle starts acting out over Loretta being famous, and

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01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: Patsy is like, girl, let's go like I'm like, yes,

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01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 1: I know that. Like Felman, Louise doesn't happen for another

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01:14:56,680 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 1: like decade, but this is the origin story of this,

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01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: Like I want the fucking Patsy and Loretta on the

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01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:07,799
Speaker 1: Run Road movie.

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01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 2: Same, same, same, and they have such a sweet friendship.

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Speaker 2: When Loretta first meets Patsy Cline, it's in a hospital.

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Speaker 2: She's singing at the Grand Old Opry and Patty Cline's

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Speaker 2: husband comes down and it is like, Patsy wants to

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Speaker 2: meet you, so he takes her to the hospital and

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01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 2: her first thing is like, are you mad at me?

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01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 2: Because I sang your song and it's just so sweet,

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01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:27,640
Speaker 2: and Patsy Cline's like, hell no, you're better than me.

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Speaker 2: Get over here, let's be friends.

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Speaker 1: I know when Patsy Cline winks at Loretta off stage

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01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 1: at the Opry, I want to cry. I'm just like,

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Speaker 1: I fucking love this shit so much, and honestly, if

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01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:42,680
Speaker 1: you want to get down to brass tacks for me,

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01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 1: I wish there was a coal Miner's Daughter Cinematic Universe

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01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:51,759
Speaker 1: where they had their own spinoff show on like HBO

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Speaker 1: Max or some shit like I need Patsy and Loretta

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01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 1: like Warped History fucking Cinematic Universe spinoff show. Yes, okay,

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01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 1: I love it so much. I love it so much.

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01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 1: And then you know, obviously the death of Patsy Kline

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01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 1: in the film is very sad moment, and obviously that

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Speaker 1: at that moment, I'm like, oh God, I don't want

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01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 1: to watch the rest, but of course I do because

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01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 1: it's the movie is incredible. But when it comes down

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01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 1: to it, like for me, it's one of the best

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01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 1: movies about a real life person, let alone country music.

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01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 1: You know, Like I said, lots of movies about country music.

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01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if people who actually know that, but

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01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: there is and I and when it comes back down

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01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 1: to it, I keep coming back to southernness and movies

1435
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 1: about the South.

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Speaker 2: You know, Kentucky I think is.

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01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 1: Different than Georgia for sure, you know, because there's this

1438
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 1: whole history of the coal mining there and the hallers

1439
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 1: and whatnot that doesn't really totally exist in Georgia as

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01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 1: much as it does there. But you just know, like

1441
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 1: when I see Coal Miner's Order, when I see a

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01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 1: movie about the South, when I see Justified, I'm like,

1443
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: you know what, like it reminds me kind of of home.

1444
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 1: Like the scenery and the pacing and the lifestyle. I mean,

1445
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 1: fuck it, man, Like I love a pie contest and

1446
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 1: people riding around in jeeps with like no doors and

1447
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: no tops and flowery fucking wallpaper, like whatever you got,

1448
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm here for that. And I don't know. Sissy is

1449
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: so sweet and so wonderful in this movie. I just

1450
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 1: love it. And like I said, it's she won an

1451
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: oscar for a reason. The singing is great, the story

1452
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 1: is great, and I just love the vibe of it.

1453
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 1: I love like her little nit cap and her curly

1454
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 1: hair and it's just so cute, and it just this

1455
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 1: movie puts me in a good spot, I think, and

1456
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 1: you know to me, like there's many movies we could

1457
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 1: have picked, but I think that we both picked good ones.

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01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, Like I think that it's maybe the

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01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 1: two that she's best known for.

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01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 2: To be honest, And it's pretty expansive. Like I really

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01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 2: love Cold Minu's daughter, and I'm someone who did knock

1462
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,639
Speaker 2: her up listening to country music. Even though my grandma's

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01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 2: favorite band, one of her favorite bands is Alabama. I

1464
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 2: cannot explain it.

1465
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 1: She and me in sixth grade would have gotten along

1466
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 1: real nicely.

1467
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:10,919
Speaker 2: She goddamn loves Alabama, like when they would win awards

1468
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 2: at the Grammys. And shit, She's like, that's my guys,

1469
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 2: And I'm like, how I've never heard a single song

1470
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,759
Speaker 2: of theirs in this house? What are you talking about?

1471
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 2: But I did feel like kind of a I felt

1472
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 2: like I was kind of kept at arms distance from

1473
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 2: country music for a long time because of that stereotypical

1474
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 2: perception of the South. So when I started listening to

1475
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 2: things like again through my Grandma, like the Juds, or

1476
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 2: you know, listening to things like Fist City, or like

1477
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 2: hearing this whole different way of getting into the storytelling

1478
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 2: element of it and the narrative, I'm like, oh, yeah,

1479
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 2: I get this, like I get this now. And I

1480
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 2: think that one thing that really stands out to me

1481
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 2: about this film. It's about a woman who's strong, but

1482
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 2: not overly tough, Like she gets through her shit. She does,

1483
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 2: she lives her life, but she's not like obtuse about

1484
01:18:55,840 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 2: it and she's not like a hardened, changed person by it.

1485
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 2: So she's really able to like enjoy her success and

1486
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 2: really feel the depths of her sorrow and she's a

1487
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:08,879
Speaker 2: full person, Like she has had a lot of tragedy

1488
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,560
Speaker 2: in her life in real life. But to see this

1489
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 2: relationship with her and do there's a scene at the

1490
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 2: end that just like brings me to tears every time,

1491
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 2: because they kind of have this little you think they're

1492
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 2: having an argument, but then you realize that's the way

1493
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 2: they communicate. And then when they leave in his jeep

1494
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 2: because he's always with a jeep, and her hair's kind

1495
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 2: of flying around and she's smiling at him and he's

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01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 2: smiling at her, and I'm just like, this is their relationship.

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Speaker 2: Like they're not sugarcoating this shit. There's hard times, there's

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01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 2: tough shit. It's not like that stand by your man

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01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 2: kind of thing, but it is kind of like I'm

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01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 2: a human being who has opinions and I'm going to

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01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 2: tell you about yourself sometimes and we can still get

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01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 2: through this shit.

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01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 2: I just thought it was beautiful.

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01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 1: I won't say that this is inherent to Southern women,

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01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 1: but it's certainly a trait of certain women that I've

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01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 1: known from the South, which is that I think that

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01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 1: there is this sort of like resilience quality. I think

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01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 1: a lot of it too, though, is that they're tough

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01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 1: and they're resilient, but they still have a sort of

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01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 1: like grace to it. Like there's not, like you said,

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01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 1: she could have had a machine gun and just like

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01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 1: blown everyone to bits like Rambo three style for all

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01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 1: the pain and shit that she endured, but she's willing

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01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:25,679
Speaker 1: to sort of like work through it, knowing that like, hey,

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01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 1: the same perfect but you know, I'm trying to make

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01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 1: the best of it. Like I love my husband, I

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01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: love my family, I love where I'm from, and like

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01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 1: I you know, I'm just gonna try to do as

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01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 1: much as I can the best way that I can.

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01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I love that, And I think

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01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 1: that's kind of like what I see in Sissy spacek

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01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 1: is what I see in women like Loreta Lynn and

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01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 1: like kind of something that I hope I hoped one

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01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 1: day be that kind of woman, you know what I mean.

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01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 1: It's just sort of like a lot of bad shit happens,

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01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 1: and you can still, you know, have a little bit

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01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 1: of a sense of humor about it, or at least

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01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 1: have some grace, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I think that's beautiful. I yeah, I love that. I

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01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 2: love that so much. And I do think she played

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01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 2: the fuck out of this character. It cannot be easy

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01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 2: to step into the life of a real person, a

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01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 2: real person you admire, a real person who's still alive,

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01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,679
Speaker 2: Like it cannot be easy to step into that role

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01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 2: and then to sing their songs and to kind of

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01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 2: mimic and inhabit their life so fully that you can't

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01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 2: even tell that it's not the real person singing. I

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01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 2: just thought she really brought something to this that I

1540
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 2: don't think an actor who is who wasn't from the

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01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 2: South could have brought to this. Yeah, I agree with that.

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01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 1: I know that we're both fans of hers, and honestly, like,

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01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 1: you know, you made my birthday real nice.

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01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 2: Well that's truly all I wanted, because I'm definitely a

1545
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 2: fan of hers, but I'm a bigger fan of yours.

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01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: Oh God, birthday.

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01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 2: Oh do you want to tell these folks that we're

1548
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 2: doing next week? Because it is not birthday related, but

1549
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 2: it is still dove as hell?

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01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I would love to tell you the

1551
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 1: for next week. Okay, people, next week? Our films are

1552
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 1: Coffee from nineteen seventy three and Jackie Brown from nineteen

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01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 1: ninety seven.

1554
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 2: Guess the theme. Just guess, just yes, just guess it.

1555
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 2: Come on, try just try do it. Well, look, keep

1556
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 2: having fun with the bracket. We've got the quarterfinal and

1557
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 2: semifinal coming up next week. You've got till the thirty

1558
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 2: first to vote, and then on April third, on Saturday,

1559
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 2: six pm Pacific, nine pm Eastern, we're going to read

1560
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:39,719
Speaker 2: the results live on Instagram Live IG live.

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01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 1: So when you see us pop up, when you see

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01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 1: the icon pop up, you know, don't let go. Oh

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01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 1: someone I know is doing another IG live.

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01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 2: You'll actually don't do what we do, actually watch it.

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01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:55,719
Speaker 2: Oh lord.

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01:22:55,840 --> 01:23:00,879
Speaker 1: Well, thanks again for being you, Danielle, thanks to everybody listening.

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01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 1: Thank you, Sissy Spacek for being who you are.

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01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 2: And happy birthday. Thank you.

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01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: It's been the best one so far in many recent years.

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01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 2: You're a virgo. Now it's fine, Christian late a Sissy Spacek.

1571
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 2: We're gonna have the party of a decade. When this

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01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 2: is all.

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01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 1: Over, I am buying cardigans for everybody.

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01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:34,639
Speaker 2: Bye bye. This has been an exactly right production. Our

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01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:38,759
Speaker 2: producers Alexis Amorsi, our engineers Annalise Nelson. Our social media

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01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 2: manager is Tarreen Maza. Our theme songs by Tom bry Foegel,

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01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 2: artwork by Garrett Ross. Our executive producers are Georgia hart Stark,

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01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 2: Karen til Gareth and Danielle Kramer. Follow us on Instagram

1579
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1580
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,360
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