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Speaker 1: But I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.

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Speaker 2: But you're a guest in my home.

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Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no, guests,

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Speaker 1: your own presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff,

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Speaker 1: So how did you dare to surbey me?

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Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gift. I'm Brichard Wineger. Here

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Speaker 3: we are. I hope you're doing okay.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: The thing that's happening for me today as I was

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Speaker 3: driving back into the neighborhood and realized I hadn't taken

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Speaker 3: the trash out. All of my neighbors have taken the

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Speaker 3: You're watching my life spin further and further out of control.

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Speaker 3: Here's something. If you're trying to find parking right now

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Speaker 3: and you're having a difficult time, I'm just going to

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Speaker 3: release you. I'm going to say, stop looking, move to

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Speaker 3: another location, do something else with your day today. It's

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Speaker 3: your day to not have to worry about parking. I'm

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Speaker 3: letting you go drive out of the lot and reclaim

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Speaker 3: your life. And with that, I think we should get

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Speaker 3: into the podcast. I really adore today's guest. I think

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Speaker 3: she's so funny. I'm so excited to have her. It's

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Speaker 3: Nicole Buyer, Nicole, welcome to I said, no gifts.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Hi, Hi, how are you? Oh?

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Speaker 3: I'm all over the place the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 3: I have just been here and there, all over the place.

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Speaker 3: I was just telling on aalise that my morning just

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Speaker 3: halfway through, randomly, I was gardening, and then I was

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Speaker 3: forgetting to take the trash out. I cleaned my dishwasher filter. Oh,

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Speaker 3: the News told me to do it. I did it.

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Speaker 2: Was it gross?

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Speaker 3: It was a little gross. It was not as gross

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Speaker 4: So I pulled mine out a couple weeks ago because

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Speaker 4: I do have a nice lady who does She's my

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Speaker 3: I just got the feeling that unless you're like truly

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Speaker 3: I don't think that they catch that much stuff.

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Speaker 4: I could be wrong, I think so either. I usually

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Speaker 3: In, right, I like there's very little food left on

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Speaker 3: But for me, I looked in there, it didn't smell.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm just bragging, and it had probably been two

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, if you don't know you're supposed to

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Speaker 3: So exactly?

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Speaker 4: I think that's okay. You were talking about trash earlier.

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Speaker 2: Tell you about my trash time today?

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Speaker 3: I would love to hear about your trash time.

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Speaker 4: So last night I ordered delivery because I didn't feel

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Speaker 4: I ate half of it whatever, and I threw it away.

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Speaker 3: But they managed no question, no question, that was raccoons.

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Speaker 4: That is pretty wild to just be like, there's a

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Speaker 2: That's wild. Raccoons are wild.

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Speaker 3: They're wild with the Also, I love that they kind

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Speaker 4: She cooked up some scrambled eggs for this raccoon and

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Speaker 2: Thought it was so fucking cute.

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Speaker 3: See. I love a raccoon eating things, but I get

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they do have those little hands a grabby and

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Speaker 3: Have you noticed this on raccoon Instagram that it feels

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Speaker 2: I like that you're calling a raccoon an exotic pet.

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Speaker 3: It's in the same category as a tiger, a lion.

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Speaker 2: A mere cat, a raccoon.

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Speaker 4: I just love their little hands speaking up stuff, bringing.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and it's so cute, but also like take it home.

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Speaker 4: It wants to go home. It's making a dam in

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Speaker 4: And I don't know how you would. It doesn't stop

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Speaker 2: But ducks just shit everywhere. They just walk around shitting everywhere.

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Speaker 4: I have a dog named Clyde who's sleeping. You can't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he looks like a little fox. He's part Pomeranian,

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Speaker 2: He's so fucking cute, and he's really smart. And he's

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Speaker 3: Fucked Well. How have you been in general? What's been

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Speaker 2: How have I been in general? Pretty good? Can't complain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, life is good. How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good? I'm just realizing asking you this. I was

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 3: God bless God, bless us all. Yeah, it flooded.

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Speaker 2: The flood well.

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Speaker 3: Last year, it flooded in a horrible way. This year

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Speaker 3: I've made so many mistakes. Last year, we agreed to

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Speaker 3: That'll fix it. It didn't fix it at all. So

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Speaker 3: this time we were in the back. I was wet,

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Speaker 3: backing NonStop for days. It's now dry. We're trying to

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Speaker 3: look for a solution. I have had a parade, a

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Speaker 4: It's a back house in back of your like in

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Speaker 3: It's an attached back house.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and it attached back house.

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Speaker 3: If that makes any sense at all. It's like a

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Speaker 4: Doesn't so, Okay, it's on the same lot, but it's

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Speaker 4: Okay, I do believe that makes sense. You had a

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Speaker 3: That's anyone's guess at this point. I mean you you

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Speaker 4: It could be the ground, Okay, I'll ask another question.

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Speaker 2: Understand the architecture and what was done.

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Speaker 4: If this was unpermitted, it literally could be anything. It

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Speaker 4: You have to move back home. You you can't salvage,

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Speaker 4: I because I had a week in my office and

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Speaker 4: There was no water at the at the like at

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Speaker 4: So or they maybe did it unpermitted because the ground

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't I'm not sure.

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Speaker 4: But if it was permitted, you can get the plans

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Speaker 3: Now I am sweating. This has just opened up a

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Speaker 4: No nobody has said this to you. Now you can

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Speaker 3: No, that certainly has not been a part of any

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Speaker 4: That's insane, because that's what when you permit something. You

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Speaker 4: You can go ahead, we approve this, and then you

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Speaker 3: I mean, pray for me. I'll pray everyone quietly pray

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Speaker 3: Is just a non stop, quiet prayer for Bridger. That's uh.

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Speaker 3: I mean, do you know what's interesting, Nicole is this

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Speaker 3: you actually are kind of to blame for this entire situation.

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Speaker 3: You got me into this home with a problem.

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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's the interesting thing about unpermitted square footage. So

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Speaker 4: drain It's a whole thing.

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Speaker 3: Owning a home is very similar to my situation.

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Speaker 4: I think that's why I know a little bit. I

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Speaker 4: we'll open it up. Let's fucking do it.

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Speaker 3: I trust you more than I'm not kidding. Everyone that

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Speaker 3: I've spoken to I feel like is a call. I mean,

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Speaker 4: It's no there are a lot of And it might

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Speaker 2: God, I can't remember. I think it's copper.

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Speaker 4: Pipes were used a long time ago. Those aren't up

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Speaker 2: You're not talking to the right people.

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Speaker 3: Los Angeles. I will say there is no city on

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Speaker 2: The thing here is built for rain or anything.

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Speaker 3: So many obvious problems that just continue to be ignored

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Speaker 2: It could be It's just it's not.

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Speaker 4: I can't believe I've said. I am not a licensed contractor.

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Speaker 4: I've never really worked on a house. I watch a

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Speaker 4: there's like a YouTube channel of this man I can't remember,

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Speaker 4: but he'll like tell you things that he's like I

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Speaker 4: don't know, but he'll like give you advice, like advice

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Speaker 4: does things like here's how you fix a sink, you

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Speaker 4: don't have to call a plumber. Here's how you change

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Speaker 4: I could remember who he is, but he also has

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Speaker 3: I need to know who that is because I could

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Speaker 3: use almost all advice at this point. Yeah, that's and

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Speaker 3: It's amazing.

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Speaker 4: I mean, take it the grain of salt. But I

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Speaker 3: You've got to set me up with your contractor.

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Speaker 2: I will give you his information. I really do like him.

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Speaker 2: He's very very nice.

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Speaker 3: Okay, listener, I know you've loved this. Once I get

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Speaker 3: to you. This is kind of the Contracting Podcast. At

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Speaker 3: We all deserve to fix it.

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Speaker 4: Can I ask you a question because I also watch

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Speaker 2: Do you like that stuff? Are you an h TV person? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Do you like restored things or do you like ripping

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Speaker 3: I like a restored I like to see, Okay, what

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Speaker 4: I cannot stand modern architecture.

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Speaker 2: I think it's very homogeneous.

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Speaker 2: Why are we doing that? There's actual beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Well it's because of chip and Joanna Gaines they should

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Speaker 2: Ship lap is terrible. The barn door is awful. Straight

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Speaker 3: Painting brick why, let me ask you this is and

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Speaker 3: I think we're kind of putting this in our past

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 2: Let me close myself in. I don't want water everywhere,

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Speaker 3: I need to feel safe in my shower. I'm naked

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Speaker 4: And I am obsessed with art deco bathrooms, like those colorful,

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Speaker 2: Like, why, why, why are you really? It's pretty?

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Speaker 3: That happens a lot in La And they just paint

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Speaker 4: Yes, I hate that gray wood, that fucking gray lamb

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Speaker 2: It makes me so angry.

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Speaker 3: Oh oh, we all deserve than that. The yes, the

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Speaker 4: And I think we can understand why I love wallpaper.

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Speaker 2: I love color.

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Speaker 4: I mean, my aesthetic is very different than other people.

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Speaker 4: My aesthetic is like very nauseating.

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Speaker 3: fun thing? I mean, you've got a very fun pattern

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00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 3: behind you.

447
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 2: Like I put up this peel and stick wallpaper myself.

448
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:39,399
Speaker 3: You did that yourself.

449
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 2: It took sixteen hours and hour five. I was like,

450
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 2: I could have hired someone to do this, but I

451
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:46,679
Speaker 2: did it.

452
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 4: So every time I look at it, I'm very happy

453
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,919
Speaker 4: because I'm like, I did it, and I put up

454
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 4: wallpaper on the other side.

455
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 2: That's oh, it's so poorly done. I gave up. I

456
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 2: had to go around the TV that's mounted to.

457
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 4: The wall and hid the TV in a little wild

458
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 4: and then there's a credenza there that I couldn't move,

459
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 4: so there's no wallpaper at the bottom.

460
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 2: But I was like, I don't care. I like how

461
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 2: it looks.

462
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 3: By I really admire that. My sister just this morning

463
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,239
Speaker 3: sent me a picture of a wall she painted this

464
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 3: woman is seven months pregnant painted a wall. Wow, I

465
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 3: can't hang a picture? What is wrong with me? I mean,

466
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 3: this is something I've got to get into in therapy.

467
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 3: This is something I have to work on my fear

468
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 3: of doing things. I'm incapable.

469
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 2: You're not incapable.

470
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 4: It's just hard and I will do things myself and

471
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 4: then I'll go I did a bad job. Like I

472
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 4: hung some paintings over here and they're spaced so poorly. Again,

473
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 4: I could have paid someone to space them nicely. But

474
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 4: they're up and I'm happy and it doesn't actually matter.

475
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 4: Maybe you're a perfectionists and you have to get over that.

476
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that might be the problem. Do you

477
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 3: have a stud finder when you hang your pictures or

478
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 3: you just randomly puncturing holes in the wall.

479
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 2: I'm just putting holes in my wall.

480
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 3: I support that. That's kind of my method. I just

481
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 3: hope that it's not too heavy.

482
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, wish for the best. And it's a picture.

483
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 4: I don't think you need a studfinder for a picture.

484
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 4: Maybe like a curtain.

485
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 3: Or yeah, like a giant oil page.

486
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 4: Curtain rods myself. Wow, it didn't go well.

487
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 2: It was very hard and there's still a hole in

488
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 2: the wall from where I started.

489
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 3: Well, from where I'm sitting, you're in a beautifully decorated room,

490
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 3: and that's all that matters. Thang, Nicole, there's something else

491
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 3: I have to talk to you about. Yes, I was

492
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 3: obviously so excited to have you on the podcast. I

493
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 3: just think you're wonderful and I thought, Nicole will come on,

494
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 3: we'll chat for a while. I mean, I didn't anticipate

495
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 3: getting so much great advice, but that was just a bonus.

496
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 3: The listener got that for free as well. They didn't

497
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 3: even have to work for it. I'm working here, they're

498
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 3: just sitting there. They're circling a lot looking for parking

499
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 3: or what have you. But you know, I was excited

500
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 3: up until a point this morning, around ten am, there's

501
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 3: a knock at the door. Oh, I've just thrown on

502
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 3: an outfit. I'm ready for the day, but my hair's

503
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 3: still wet. Go to the door and there's someone standing

504
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 3: there holding a package. Oh. Yes, it's a small it's

505
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 3: probably about nine by six inches. It's in kind of

506
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 3: a beautiful plaid wrap.

507
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 2: Lindsay wrapped it, my wonderful assistant.

508
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 3: She was so friendly. I mean, she's really not. After

509
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 3: our fight, I should say that in a fight, you

510
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 3: might want to just keep an eye on Lindsay as

511
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 3: an assistant. Okay, okay, But now I've got this package,

512
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 3: and I tried. I finally was able to put two

513
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 3: and two together. I thought Nichol's gonna be on the podcast.

514
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 3: This Lindsay person was obviously sent to do her dirty work.

515
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 3: Gift for me?

516
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: It is. It is a gift for you.

517
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 3: Okay, Well that's fine, that's absolutely fine. I have no

518
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 3: problem with it. The podcast is called I said, no gifts,

519
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 3: not a big deal. I mean, it's now in my

520
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 3: home and Lindsay's not out nowhere to be seen. I

521
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 3: can't send it back.

522
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 2: No, you can't.

523
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 3: So sorry, Should I open it here on the show?

524
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 2: I would love for you to open it?

525
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: Okay, Well let's get into it here. I'm gonna put

526
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 3: the mic down and open it. Oh, this is a

527
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 3: very handy thing to have on head. Cough drops ekalah,

528
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,719
Speaker 3: cough drops. Uh huh.

529
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: Listen, you might get COVID, you might get a different

530
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: cough and I figured, I'm always like, fuck, I wish

531
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: I had cough drops, So I got you cough drops.

532
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: You never have cough drops when you need them exactly

533
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 3: one of these things that you've got to have around

534
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 3: for when the cough strikes. And yeah, I feel like

535
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 3: the last time I bought cough drops was probably pre

536
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,719
Speaker 3: pandemic and those have got to be thrown away at

537
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 3: this point. I don't even know where they are. They're

538
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 3: they're rustling around in some drawer right right. But to

539
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 3: have a few of these at the bottom of your bag,

540
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 3: what a blessing. Yes, these are the original herb flavor.

541
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 3: I've never had this flavor of.

542
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,719
Speaker 4: You I have, and I do like them the best

543
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 4: because they're not super sweet.

544
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 2: They're just there to do the job. Do you know

545
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 2: what I'm saying? Like loudens, that's candy, that's candy to

546
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: lubricate your throat.

547
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 4: Hauls a little too intense sometimes with the fucking eucalyptus

548
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 4: coming through.

549
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: But Ricola recola just wants you to stop coughing and

550
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: have a nice time.

551
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 3: What I wonder what herbs they're using? Alpine Swiss alpine herbs.

552
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 3: What does that even mean?

553
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: Is it like an herby?

554
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 3: Are we talking oregano?

555
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: Uh?

556
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 3: Let's see here, herb mixture elder whorehound. I've never heard

557
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 3: of any of these things. Hiss up, lemon ball, Linden Flowers,

558
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 3: mallow mallow, that's what well mallow, peppermint, sage time, wild time.

559
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 3: This sounds like a real savory cough drop.

560
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: It's not super savory, but it's not sweet.

561
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 4: Okay, it's how do I explain it?

562
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: I mean it is rby.

563
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 4: This is I'm I'm literally just using the descriptors that

564
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 4: they have on the fucking bag.

565
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 2: I don't. I think it just feels comfortable and like home.

566
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 3: I love it. I mean it is candy. I love

567
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 3: a cherry cough drop. Do they make a lemon cough drop?

568
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 3: I think a lemon I can do. Lemon's nice. Just

569
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 3: those halls too much, I do like. Is it Menthol

570
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 3: they put in some of these that is truly just

571
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 3: burning through the back of your throat. Yes, there's a

572
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 3: little bit of masochism there that I enjoy. It's just

573
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 3: like the true just burn that you're dealing with. It's

574
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 3: not spicy. It's like it feels like you're cleaning a

575
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 3: toilet or something.

576
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 4: It's like it's like a Menthol cigarette. I did used

577
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 4: to smoke those. Those are my favorite, But I have

578
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 4: since quit.

579
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 3: When did you quit? Sucks?

580
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 4: Okay, so I quit January third last year, started again

581
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 4: last September, and then quit again January fifth this year.

582
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 3: Of this year. Yes, how this is an exciting development

583
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 3: for you.

584
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: Yes, although I do miss them, hence me bringing them up.

585
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 3: Nicola is lighting up right now.

586
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: I miss them so fucking much.

587
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 3: I do.

588
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: They're fabulous, but they're not good for you.

589
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 3: How long had you been smoking for I.

590
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 4: Had been smoking for a solid like twenty years, Nicole.

591
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I started smoked for twenty years. I mean

592
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 3: that's another point of pride. I suppose two decades of

593
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 3: doing anything, you know.

594
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: I was really committed to this. I was like, this

595
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: is ill.

596
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 3: I am who introduced you to cigarettes.

597
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 4: One of my friends in middle school, her mother smoked,

598
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 4: and she smoked Marboro lights, and she had them in

599
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 4: the cabinet with the booze, and she would put rubber

600
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 4: bands on the cabinet, and then we were like, oh,

601
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 4: we could just take the rubber bands off, and we

602
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 4: would like steal her booze and steal her cigarettes. Then

603
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 4: I had another friend who smoked Marble reds, and I

604
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 4: would smoke those with her, and then I had another

605
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 4: friend who smoked marble menthol lights, and I was like, ooh, this.

606
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: Is what I like.

607
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 4: I went through a phase where I smoked Virginia slims.

608
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 4: I smoked capris just like long skinny ones I do.

609
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't smoke, but if I were to smoke,

610
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: I would need it to be at least like nine

611
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 3: inches long. The cigarette's gotta.

612
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 5: Be huge, it's gotta be very Yes, when you smoke

613
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 5: your first cigarette, was it like a peer pressure situation

614
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 5: or was like, I I'm ready to light up?

615
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 3: Oh?

616
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: I was ready to light up.

617
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 4: I was one of those girls that was like, oh,

618
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 4: I'm I'll do almost anything to be considered cool. I'll

619
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 4: try anything once. But I didn't know that you had

620
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 4: to like inhale. And then I didn't know you had

621
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: to learn how to inhale. So then I took it

622
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 4: upon myself. I was like, I'm gonna learn. I'm not

623
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,959
Speaker 4: gonna be embarrassed again. So I practice. You have to

624
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 4: like learn how to smoke, and then you get addicted

625
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 4: to it.

626
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 3: And this is pre YouTube. There weren't tutorials on YouTube smoke,

627
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 3: nary a video to watch.

628
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: I had to learn all on my own in my garage.

629
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 3: How long did it take you to learn?

630
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 4: Probably like two weeks and then I was like, okay,

631
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 4: I know how to fucking do this now. And then

632
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 4: you know, you blow it out of your nose and

633
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 4: you could do Little O's.

634
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 3: Well, you are a real true blue smoker.

635
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I worked really hard at it.

636
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: What were you kind of a rebellious teen?

637
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, very much.

638
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 3: Did it manifest itself in other ways other than smoking cigarettes?

639
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 4: I smoked a ton of weed in high school. I

640
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 4: would drink with friends on the weekends. I liked staying

641
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 4: out late. I mean, just like typical things. I would

642
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 4: forge or like not forge. I would make my own

643
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 4: permission slips and I would tell my dad.

644
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I don't go to school today.

645
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 4: We're going to the city to see cabaret.

646
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 2: Can you sign this permission slip and give me cash?

647
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 4: And he'd be like okay, And then we would skip school,

648
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 4: go to the city and literally see matinees. So I mean, like,

649
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 4: I wasn't doing dangerous stuff, just real fucking nerd shit.

650
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: You were living it up.

651
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: It was like You're on vacation, living my best life.

652
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 3: But then you smoked for twenty years. Yes, and you've

653
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 3: just so your experience with quitting smoking. Is it painful?

654
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 3: Does it make you nauseous? Or is it just like

655
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: a little like nagging feeling every day?

656
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: It is a nagging feeling.

657
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 4: So when I first tried to quit, like two or

658
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 4: three or four years ago, I read half of this

659
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 4: book The Easy Way to Quit by Alan Carr, and

660
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 4: I got to like almost the last chapter and I

661
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 4: was like, wait, this really I really feel like I

662
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,239
Speaker 4: want to quit. So I stopped reading it because I

663
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 4: felt like I wanted to quit, so that I read

664
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,479
Speaker 4: it again and then I was like, oh, I'm ready.

665
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 4: And then you know, some days I'd be like, oh,

666
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 4: I want one, but then I'd be like whatever, and

667
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 4: then made it nine months without smoking.

668
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: Started again. But then every time I smoked a cigarette,

669
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't like this.

670
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 3: Oh it's not good.

671
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 4: They taste bad, like if you really break them down,

672
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 4: they're very bad.

673
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: So then I was like, why did you start again?

674
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: Let's just quit again. So then I didn't have to

675
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: reread the book. I quit again. Sometimes before bed, I go, hm,

676
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: but what if? And then I'm like, put on my eyemask,

677
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: take my very mild tranquilizer and go right to sleep.

678
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 3: Do you feel like any habit has kind of taken

679
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 3: the place of smoking.

680
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: No.

681
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 4: I try to, like take my dog for longer walks,

682
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,239
Speaker 4: but then he gets tired and I get tired. I

683
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 4: have no idea what would replace it, because it's not

684
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 4: even like a hand mouthed thing. It's not like I

685
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 4: need something in my mouth. Although I'm doing this right

686
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 4: now and it feels really good. I'm putting it down

687
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 4: with my two fingers to my mouth.

688
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: It feels really great.

689
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 5: I miss it.

690
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't replaced it with anything, though.

691
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 3: Okay, well, maybe you'll find something. I feel like finding

692
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 3: something will maybe like really be a firewall against starting again.

693
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: I'm really concerned for you. I don't want you to

694
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 3: start again.

695
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: Thank you, neither do any of my doctors.

696
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 3: Have you ever smoked in a casino? I feel like

697
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 3: if I was going to smoke, it would be in

698
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 3: a casino.

699
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 4: Yes, and it's glorious. I love smoking inside. I love

700
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 4: it like I'm from Jersey, and it took Jersey a

701
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 4: very long time to ban smoking. Indoors and smoking sections

702
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 4: are so funny because the whole restaurant smells like smoke,

703
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 4: but like.

704
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: Smoke in a diner. Oh, I love it. There's nothing

705
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 2: like it.

706
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: When did Jerseys stop the smoking sections?

707
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 4: I feel like in the early two thousands, Oh, maybe

708
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 4: like late nineties. It felt like it was a long

709
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 4: time because I feel like in base school you could smoke.

710
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: I might be wrong.

711
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 4: Someone's probably listening being like circling around looking for parking going.

712
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 2: No, I know that year. It was nineteen eighty sixty seven.

713
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it was the nineties.

714
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 3: Wow, very late to me. I have like foggy memories

715
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 3: of smoking sections. I think Utah probably banned them in

716
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 3: ninety five or something. You're from Utah, I'm from.

717
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 4: Utah from I was just in Utah for what Sundance

718
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 4: at Sundance. I was at Sundance for one day, and

719
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 4: I did not know how cold it was in Utah. Also,

720
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 4: I thought Utah was by Seattle.

721
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 3: It's not. I mean, it's close to Seattle than New York.

722
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I thought it was definitely north of California.

723
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 4: Instead, it's like east. It's like the real lateral move

724
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 4: from La.

725
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it.

726
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 3: That makes me feel so much better about my geographical

727
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 3: knowledge of the United States because the East Coast. I'm like,

728
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 3: it could be anything. I really don't know where states

729
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 3: are beyond Colorado. It's just like it's just a big

730
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 3: blur for me. I can kind of tell you where

731
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 3: things are. But now that you don't, or that you've

732
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: just learned you ties not next door to Seattle, I

733
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: feel incredible. I feel like we're one and the same.

734
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 3: We were in Park City.

735
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 2: Rocked my world. I was in Park City and nobody

736
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: else was interested in Zillo listings.

737
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 4: I was like, this is a cute, picturesque place. I

738
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 4: need to find out how much people pay to live here.

739
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 4: I found an adorable two bedroom, two bathroom historical home.

740
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 4: I think it was a church that was turned into

741
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 4: a home. It was for one point three million dollars

742
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 4: a two bedroom, two bathroom. I couldn't believe it, but

743
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 4: it was right off Main Street. Then I found a condo.

744
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: For nine million dollars. Do you want me to share

745
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 2: a wall? For nine million dollars?

746
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: How big?

747
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: You lost your mind?

748
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 4: I think it was like three thousand square feet or

749
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 4: four thousand square feet, so like a pretty big condo.

750
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: I think it was like the whole top floor, but

751
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: I just couldn't fathom.

752
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 3: Truly, unless you're in New York or Tokyo. You were

753
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 3: not paying nine million dollars for a condo. What are

754
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 3: we talking about here?

755
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. Blew my mind. But again, right off Main.

756
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 3: Street, you've got a easy access to shopping restaurants Sunday

757
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 3: that's when.

758
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: It happens once a year. But boy, oh boys, Park

759
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 2: City pretty.

760
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 3: It's beautiful, isn't it. It's really a pleasant place to be.

761
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 3: What were you? What did you do while you were there?

762
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: I had directed a short that was shown. Oh so

763
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: that was nice and that was fun.

764
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 4: I was only there literally for twenty four hours because

765
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 4: I was doing a weekend of shows in Irvine Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

766
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: Flew in Sunday, left Monday, real whirl wind.

767
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 3: Did you get any They give away so much great

768
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 3: free stuff at Sundance. Did you get anything for free?

769
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 2: No? I don't get anything, Nicole.

770
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 3: You've wasted, absolutely wasted your trip to Sunday.

771
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 4: I know, I just I didn't get a chance to

772
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 4: like go get the free stuff.

773
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 3: Oh my heart, you could have walked away with so

774
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 3: many beautiful items. They want people to take their luxury

775
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 3: items it's incredible.

776
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 2: They feel so foolish. I didn't realize I could get

777
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: all the free stuff. I love free stuff.

778
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: Well that's a little tip for next time. Did you

779
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 3: see any exciting celebrities or anything?

780
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: No, I.

781
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 3: Possible, I did.

782
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 4: I flew in, I had an hour to do my

783
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 4: hair and makeup, and then I had to go do press,

784
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 4: and then we did the screening, and then we did

785
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 4: more press, and then I had to go to a

786
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 4: dinner and then I promptly passed out. Because the show

787
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 4: on Saturday, I didn't get home till two am, and

788
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 4: then had to get picked up for my flight at five.

789
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 4: So I was like scared if I fell asleep between

790
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 4: two and five, I would just miss getting picked up

791
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 4: and miss the flight. So then I slept on the

792
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 4: flight for two hours, and I was just not okay.

793
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 4: People kept asking me questions. I'd be like, I don't

794
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 4: know one are these words? Well?

795
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: I don't know.

796
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 3: Well was the short well received?

797
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: It went over pretty well. I think the people they

798
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: laughed at the things I wanted them to laugh at.

799
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 3: So that was, oh fantastic. Is this the first short

800
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 3: you've directed?

801
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: Technically?

802
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 4: Yes, I've done stuff through like UCB where like it

803
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 4: was a collaborative effort, but this is the first time

804
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 4: I was just like action, cut, do it this way,

805
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 4: and nobody else had to say.

806
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 3: You know, did you have a good time doing it?

807
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 2: I did.

808
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 4: I realized I really do like directing and like figuring

809
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 4: out a performance. A lot of the meticulous stuff like

810
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 4: what shoes should she wear? I'm like, I don't know,

811
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 4: whatever covers her feet and she's comfortable, you know what

812
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 4: I mean? Like I unless I say something specific, I'm like,

813
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 4: I don't really care.

814
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: Let's just do it. Let's go. You're just there for

815
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 3: the performance more or less.

816
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then that usually.

817
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 3: It's a complete mess.

818
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, everything else is messing the sound, can't hear a thing,

819
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 4: but we have those performances.

820
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 3: Well, I hope that you get to go. I'm sure

821
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 3: you'll be back to Sundance at some point, and hopefully

822
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 3: for an extended period of time. I mean, I've never

823
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 3: been there officially, and I've had a better experience at

824
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 3: Sundance than you. I've seen celebrities, I've gotten free items.

825
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 2: Who is the biggest celebrity you've.

826
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 3: Seen, let's see, I mean, probably Jennifer Aniston. I feel like,

827
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 3: okay there now. I mean, I'm talking this big game

828
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 3: and I have one person to name that it's kind

829
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 3: of I mean, let's just say there is just a

830
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 3: There are so many big celebrities. I can't even remember

831
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 3: just celebrity after celebrity. I did see. I believe it

832
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 3: was Reba McIntyre's assistant screaming at someone on the phone

833
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 3: about having to clean a walk in fridge. So that

834
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 3: was more. That's better than a celebrity siding for me.

835
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 2: I love it.

836
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 4: I love that Riba has a walk in fridge near her, like,

837
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 4: that's like, what for what?

838
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 2: Reba?

839
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 3: And I think the walk in fridge was in Park City,

840
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 3: so she was probably it's probably not even her home.

841
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 3: She renting a place that has a walk in fridge

842
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 3: and runs.

843
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 2: Man, get chilled.

844
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 3: Have you ever worked any food business?

845
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 4: Yes, I was a hostess at a restaurant that has

846
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 4: now gone. It was in Union Square called Chat and Chew,

847
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 4: And then I was a server at a place that

848
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 4: has also gone called Pernima.

849
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 3: Did you ever have access to the walk and fridge?

850
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 4: I would never go into the walk in fridge because

851
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 4: they were fucking nasty. Really New York restaurants are fucking gross.

852
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 3: What are just like? What is.

853
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 4: The one in the Indian restaurant that I worked at,

854
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 4: It was like an Indian restaurant slash Irish bar slash

855
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 4: cabaret room. It was the wildest place, perfect combination ever been.

856
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 4: But there was like roaches and shit and rats.

857
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 2: It was gross.

858
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 3: Oh no, I don't like to hear that. All of

859
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: my walk in fridge experience at work has been pristine.

860
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: It's just this lovely little cave. You get to go

861
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 3: inside and you're hot from work, so you you really

862
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 3: take your time in there. There is the worry that

863
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 3: it's gonna get sealed and you're going to be trapped

864
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 3: in there, which must have happened with somebody at some point.

865
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: Thirty degrees, right, that's that's what isn't that? Yeah?

866
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 3: Probably thirty reason refrigerator. You're not gonna die, Actually no,

867
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 3: it can't. That would be below freezing and all of

868
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 3: your food would freeze. What is the temperature of a refrigerator?

869
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: Forty A freezer must be below Oh on a lease

870
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 3: is forty one? You're on it? Forty one? Forty one

871
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 3: is the temperature you want for a fridge.

872
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, You're not going to freeze to death in

873
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: a refrigerator. It'll just be a little chilly.

874
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 3: And I guess you're not gonna starve to death either. No,

875
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 3: it actually might be a perfect scenario.

876
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, just drink the shit in there, eat some stuff whatever,

877
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 4: you know, some fruits, vegetables.

878
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: You'll probably like be healthy by the time you get removed.

879
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 3: It's a little vacation to like a wellness center essentially

880
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 3: what it is. Your skin probably looks beautiful coming out, right. Oh, well,

881
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: we love a walk in fridge. I've got my cough

882
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 3: drops here. Have you had COVID?

883
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 4: Oh I've had it, I think three times officially too. Okay, okay,

884
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 4: I think I got it the end of twenty nineteen.

885
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 2: I'm one of those people. I'm it was like, I

886
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: think I had it. Of all everybody, I'm the coolest.

887
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, I was in Portland.

888
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 4: I was doing shows and I thought I was tired

889
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 4: from doing shows, but I also had this horrific cough

890
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 4: that like would keep me up at night.

891
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 2: My chest hurt.

892
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 4: And then I gave it to my friend and when

893
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 4: I left, she was like, whatever the fuck you had

894
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 4: was brutal, And I was like sorry about it, and

895
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 4: then COVID came around.

896
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit, I think I had COVID.

897
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 4: And then I got it May of last year because

898
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 4: I went to upfronts and then I got it in December, and.

899
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: I don't know how I was being careful.

900
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 3: One was a mystery. Mm hmm. Well, I feel like

901
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 3: we're all, yeah, we're just now getting it from all

902
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 3: over the place, so there's there won't be any pinning

903
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 3: it down at this point.

904
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: No.

905
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 3: I mean I had a similar look. I'm not trying

906
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 3: to I guess this isn't one upping, but it's kind

907
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: of a mirror of your experience. Early twenty twenty I

908
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 3: go to Omaha to see my boyfriend. I come back,

909
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 3: I have horrible cough, the fever of a lifetime, the

910
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 3: sort of fever where you're so you get the chills

911
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: so bad that you just lie down in the shower

912
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: and almost never get out, just wanting to boil yourself.

913
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 3: All of the you know, telltale symptoms, but there was

914
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 3: nothing to really call it at that point. H And

915
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 3: then here comes COVID. So there's that first experience. Second

916
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 3: experience was Christmas twenty twenty two. Had all of the

917
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 3: symptoms tested negative. Every time gave it to my boyfriend,

918
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 3: he tested positive. So there's that situation. And then I

919
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 3: had it more recently, and of course at that point

920
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 3: I had been vaccinated and boosted and blah blah blah.

921
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: So it was you had a December twenty twenty two,

922
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 2: and then you.

923
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 3: Got it Recember. Anywary, No, we have to back up

924
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 3: December twenty twenty one.

925
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: Oh, I see, I see it.

926
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I misspoke, I've uh it's okay. Yeah, So yeah,

927
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 3: it was. Essentially we've had it every year and it's

928
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 3: getting better and better and I'm having the time of

929
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: my life.

930
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 4: Last time I had it, I was like, I don't

931
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 4: want this again, because it wasn't terrible, but I would

932
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 4: have a conversation an our long phone call and then

933
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 4: be like, I better lay down.

934
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 2: I feel so so tired and lighted, and I'm like,

935
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: I don't want that, and then it takes too long

936
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 2: to get back into the swing of shit.

937
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 3: Right, And it just is so unbelievably inconvenient. It's just annoying.

938
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 3: It's being sick. It's just no one wants to be

939
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 3: sick with anything. I mean, strep throat flew. There are

940
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: so many different horrible things that can happen.

941
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wear my little mask on the plane

942
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 2: and people look at you funny. But Naomi Campbell was right.

943
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 4: She had a video before COVID where she was literally

944
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 4: like in a hazmat suit, wiping down everything, and she's like,

945
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 4: it's my health, and I was like, you know what,

946
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 4: You're right me and I don't.

947
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to breathe these other people's there unless

948
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: it's filtered through something.

949
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 3: And what was she doing that before COVID, like way before, way.

950
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 4: Before, And people would look at her funny, and she

951
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 4: would be like, I don't care. I don't care, but

952
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 4: I'm on board with her. I wipe down everything because

953
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 4: nobody cleans on planes. Planes are really fucking disgusting. But

954
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 4: I have yet to get sick after being on a flight,

955
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 4: and I used to get sick all the time after flights,

956
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 4: So I do think there's something to it.

957
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 3: The mask is helping a little.

958
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 2: It's doing something.

959
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 3: I mean, hopefully it's doing something. There's got to be

960
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 3: a reason for it.

961
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,479
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, like surgeons and stuff where

962
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: them and they haven't stopped, So like I think there's

963
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: a little some to I.

964
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 3: Don't know they have some knowledge about that that area.

965
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 3: I don't know. Well, I think we should play a game.

966
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 2: Eh, okay, I'll when.

967
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 3: We'll see about that. We're gonna play a game. Let's

968
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 3: play gift or a curse. This feels I mean, you're

969
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 3: coming in with this big, winning energy and we're just

970
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 3: gonna see. Okay, but first I need to number between

971
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 3: one and ten from you eight. Okay. I have to

972
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 3: do some light calculating. So while I'm calculating, I'm gonna

973
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: be away from the mic. You're kind of home alone.

974
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 3: You've got the mic chat with the listener. Recommend something,

975
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 3: promote something, do whatever you want to probably right.

976
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: Okay, recommend something, promote something.

977
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 3: Okay.

978
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 4: So I have a show called Grand Crew, and that

979
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 4: premiere is the second season premiere is March third.

980
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 2: The first season is on Peacock or Hulu.

981
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 4: If you've like live television or something, I think you

982
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 4: can watch it. But I'm really proud of this show.

983
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 4: I think it's really funny. I think you'll enjoy it.

984
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 4: The first season really revs up and the last couple

985
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 4: episodes are like so fun. And then season two starts

986
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 4: out the Gate, super super fun and I think it

987
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 4: gets better and better. It's like a real rom com sitcom,

988
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 4: if you will. I also have other podcasts. I have

989
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 4: Why Won't You Date Me? Where I try to figure

990
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 4: out why I'm single? And then I have best Friends

991
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 4: with Si Years and Naida where we're just like ha

992
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 4: ha ha tihihiing.

993
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: It's truly wild. It's very fun. And then Newcomers with

994
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 2: Lauren Lappiz that's a real treat and a dream.

995
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 4: And then ninety Day Bay where me and my friend

996
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 4: Marcy talk about all things ninety Dight, Beyonce and Darcy and.

997
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 2: Stacy all that stuff.

998
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 4: Also I have nailed it and then wipe Out so

999
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 4: you can watch all that shit is.

1000
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 3: Fun, perfectly done. Thank you really you nailed it. It

1001
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 3: was so sweet and Grand Crew is such a funny show.

1002
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 3: People should be hole to look out for you. I

1003
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 3: really love that podcast. Okay, well, this is how Gift

1004
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 3: or a Curse works. I'm going to name three things.

1005
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 3: You're going to tell me if they're a gift or

1006
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 3: a curse and why? Okay, and then I'm going to

1007
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 3: tell you if you're right or wrong, because there are

1008
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 3: correct answers. People have lost the game. You could lose

1009
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 3: the game. You could win big two. So just try

1010
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 3: your very best. Promise me, you'll do your best.

1011
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 2: I'll do my bestie promise.

1012
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 3: Okay. First up, this is a listener's suggestion from someone

1013
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 3: named Liz Gift or a curse. Restaurant specials.

1014
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 4: Restaurants specials, I think are a curse because I've already

1015
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 4: looked through the restaurant's menu in my own leisure at

1016
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 4: my home, so I would be adequately prepared to order

1017
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 4: what I wanted to order, and I wouldn't hold up

1018
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 4: the ordering process because I am a very indecisive person.

1019
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 4: But I've already chosen and I don't need a curveball.

1020
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,479
Speaker 3: Oh my god. That is if I had written down

1021
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 3: my answer, it would have been what you just said.

1022
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 3: Of course, it's a curse. I can't have this random

1023
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 3: element coming in at the last minute for me. I

1024
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 3: have to do, you know, I have got to do

1025
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 3: my homework before I get to the restaurant or everyone's

1026
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 3: going to be screaming at me. Yes, And sometimes the

1027
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 3: restaurant special is a little bit tempting, but not tempting enough,

1028
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 3: and then I I'm second guessing everything. I recently went

1029
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 3: for a restaurant special and was deeply disappointed. I should

1030
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 3: have just gone with what I wanted.

1031
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: What was a special?

1032
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,439
Speaker 3: It was Wavos rancheros, which I usually love.

1033
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 2: This.

1034
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing with a lot of specials, if

1035
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 4: it was actually special and good, it'd be on the

1036
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 4: menu full time.

1037
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 3: What a good point. That's very true. If you're if

1038
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 3: you're that excited about the dish, print it on the

1039
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,240
Speaker 3: menu for me, don't put it in the dry erase marker.

1040
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 4: The only place that has a special that's worthwhile is

1041
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 4: Little Doms. Friday night, they have lasagna, and I love

1042
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 4: their lasagna, so I try to get it to go,

1043
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 4: and now they've decided you can't order it to go.

1044
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 4: You have to go in, sit at the bar and

1045
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 4: order it there and then bag it up.

1046
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: And I don't understand.

1047
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 3: Why do you go sit at the bar, order it

1048
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 3: for there and then say, oh, I'm like take a

1049
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 3: bite and be like, oh I'm fin Could I get

1050
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 3: a bag to go?

1051
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: Listen, she's busy. My assistant does it part of her job.

1052
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 3: Now. I noticed she was covered in sauce when she

1053
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 3: showed up at my house because she was waiting for

1054
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 3: fucking Lasagnia.

1055
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 4: But I also tell her to get dinner for herself

1056
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 4: since she has to go in.

1057
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 3: Oh that's very nice of you. So fucking dumb, but

1058
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 3: that the special you're describing is kind of a special

1059
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 3: you can count on. You know it's not. I mean,

1060
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 3: it's the Friday night special. We all we know it's

1061
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 3: always going to be there, So that one I can

1062
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 3: kind of get behind. But these ones where it's just

1063
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 3: like the chef had a flight of fancy. Here it is.

1064
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't deal with it. It's a curse

1065
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 3: excellently played right there. Okay, so number two this is

1066
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 3: for a listener, suggested a listener named Madeline. Let's let's

1067
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 3: give credit. Madeleine suggested gift or a curse. At the

1068
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 3: end of a performance, when the performers gesture to the

1069
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 3: audience and clap for them.

1070
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: That is a curse. I didn't you anything. I came

1071
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: to enjoy.

1072
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 4: And also I don't want to be recognized as an

1073
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 4: audience member.

1074
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 2: There's a fourth wall for a reason.

1075
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 4: I want to enjoy what I watched and clap for you,

1076
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 4: and now you're telling me to clap for me.

1077
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, I don't like it occurs.

1078
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 3: Oh, Nicole, I hate to hear it. So I hate

1079
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 3: to hear it. It's a gift I love. There's nothing

1080
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 3: I love more than suddenly the actor watching an actor

1081
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 3: do that or a performer is the corniest thing you

1082
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 3: could possibly see and look it kind of bring you know.

1083
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 3: It shows they have a weakness, It shows their flawed.

1084
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 3: They're as flawed as I am, and it puts me

1085
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 3: on a level with them, and I love to see it.

1086
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 3: I can't get enough of it.

1087
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 2: Wow. Do you like when people clap when planes land.

1088
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 3: To let people clap for whatever they want to clap?

1089
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 3: They're saying that little.

1090
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 4: Plane clapping story that has ever had happened was we

1091
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 4: were delayed for two hours and they finally closed the

1092
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 4: boarding door. The flight attendant was like, I couldn't say

1093
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 4: this before, but I'm saying it now. The boarding door

1094
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 4: is finally closed and we are ready for takeoff, and

1095
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 4: everyone started clapping, and without like skipping a beat, the

1096
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 4: planet goes. Since we've been sitting here for two hours

1097
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 4: with the engines on, we need to refuel. We're not

1098
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 4: going anywhere for fifteen to twenty minutes. And I was

1099
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 4: the only one who laughed. It was like the darling.

1100
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 4: Oh I should have clapped for that. That would have

1101
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:31,479
Speaker 4: been great.

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00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 3: That's a beautiful story. No, look, it's uh when people

1103
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 3: clap on a plane, I'm let's be very clear, I'm

1104
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 3: not joining in, But you know, whatever, clap, do whatever

1105
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 3: you want, as long as you're minding your own business.

1106
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 3: I mean, clapping at the end of a movie, we're

1107
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 3: crossing a line. It's like, who are we clasping?

1108
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 2: I did clap at the end of Megan.

1109
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 3: Well, that's kind of that's true. You mean I saw Megan.

1110
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 3: We've got a clap for.

1111
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 4: Mean in a theater full of gay people, divas and preteens.

1112
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 4: We clapped at her entrance. We clapped at the first

1113
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 4: bad thing she did. We sang along when she sang

1114
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 4: a haunting rendition of a song that I don't want

1115
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 4: to ruin. If you haven't seen the movie, it was fabulous.

1116
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 4: I had the best.

1117
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 3: Time at that fucking movie Megan. I mean, my only

1118
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 3: complaint is there's not enough Megan. It should have been

1119
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 3: all Megan. She should have next movie, let her carry

1120
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 3: the show. Maybe maybe it's about Megan dealing with another Megan.

1121
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 3: So it's just pure robot dolls.

1122
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 2: Megan and Meghan.

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00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 3: I mean, Megan is spelled with like a three, isn't it. Yeah,

1124
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 3: it's like M three G. I wonder if they're gonna

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00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 3: use a four in the next one. What's a name

1126
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 3: with the four? Can kind of be an? H Is

1127
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 3: it Heather?

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00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 2: Maybe it's Heather.

1129
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 3: If the next movie is called head, I would be

1130
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 3: telling Heather.

1131
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, Megan and Heather.

1132
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 3: Oh please, I'm reaching out to Hollywood. We need Heather.

1133
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 3: We've got to get the Heather moving in production. Okay,

1134
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 3: so you've gotten one out of two so far. So

1135
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 3: now the wheels are coming off a little bit. Let's

1136
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 3: see if you can get it back on track. Finally.

1137
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 3: Someone named Bailey has suggested gift or a curse silent discos.

1138
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 4: I feel like you might say it's a gift, but

1139
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 4: I think they're a curse. There's nothing dumber than people

1140
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 4: with headphones just dancing. And how are you interacting with anyone?

1141
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 4: To dance with anyone? Are you all listening to the

1142
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 4: same thing?

1143
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. Why not just have the music play

1144
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 2: on a speaker?

1145
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 3: Like?

1146
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: Am I old? Am I stupid? I don't know. I

1147
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 2: hate it.

1148
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 3: You are absolutely correct. I mean, come on, what are

1149
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 3: we talking about here? But it just feels like it's

1150
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 3: being done for novelty's sake. It's a gimmick. Yeah, it's yes. Also,

1151
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have to bring hardware to the dance. The

1152
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 3: dance should be there for me. I bring my body,

1153
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 3: my moves, that's all I should have to supply. I agree.

1154
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 3: And I also get concerned about like everyone's rhythm being

1155
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 3: slightly off, and like the timing of it all. It

1156
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense to me. I mean, I've never

1157
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 3: done it, so maybe doing it would change my experience.

1158
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 3: But I don't know. Headphones are I don't want a

1159
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 3: big bulky pair of headphones on, or air pods in

1160
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 3: or what have you. And then how you don't talk

1161
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 3: to each other. I don't know. It feels very strange

1162
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 3: and unnecessary for me. I don't know what's Yeah, not

1163
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,479
Speaker 3: for me either, it's a curse. Well, you got two

1164
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 3: out of three not a bad play, and you've got

1165
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 3: the first one so unbelievably correct that, I mean absolutely

1166
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 3: swept me off my feet. I'm so proud of you.

1167
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1168
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 3: Okay, So now This is the final segment of the podcast.

1169
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 3: It's called I said no emails people right into I

1170
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 3: said no gifts at gmail dot com, Nicole. I don't

1171
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 3: know about you, but my listeners, their lives are in

1172
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 3: turmoil NonStop. It's a it's a tough bunch. They're having

1173
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 3: a hard time at every turn, and so they you know,

1174
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 3: they look to me to answer their questions. Would you

1175
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 3: help me answer a question?

1176
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

1177
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 3: All right, let's dive into the dock here, let's see. Okay,

1178
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 3: here we go. Great, Hello Bridger and esteemed and slash

1179
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,439
Speaker 3: or infamous guests. Okay, so they're kind of playing both

1180
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 3: sides there with you. I don't know what their plan is.

1181
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 3: My husband and I have gotten fairly good at selecting

1182
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 3: gifts for one another over the course of our relationship,

1183
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 3: but our gift picking styles are very different. While I

1184
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 3: keep a running spreadsheet of gift ideas for all the

1185
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 3: folks I need to buy or based on small hints

1186
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 3: and conversations with them, and intentional brainstorming session Oh my god,

1187
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 3: what is this person doing? And intentional brainstorming sessions months

1188
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 3: before I actually need to present a present. Oh, this

1189
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 3: is like a doctor Seuss poem. What are we talking

1190
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 3: about here? My husband stresses himself out near the last

1191
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 3: minute trying to think of the absolute perfect gift. When

1192
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 3: it's an occasion where he's going to give me a gift,

1193
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 3: I am privy to the process. He ends up picking

1194
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 3: great stuff, but I don't like to be the cause

1195
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 3: of worry and stress being so type A about this

1196
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 3: sort of thing. I'll try to help him think of

1197
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 3: ideas for gifts for me, but he always rejects my

1198
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 3: suggestions because, according to him, if he uses any of them,

1199
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 3: it's no longer a surprise and no longer his idea.

1200
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 3: I'm not really sure why he's imposed these rules on

1201
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 3: this process, But is there a way I can more

1202
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 3: subtly hint to him what I would like so he

1203
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 3: doesn't get so frazzled? Or do I just need to

1204
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 3: let him stress? Love the show? Okay, Now they're trying

1205
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 3: to win me back very respectfully. Emily in North Carolina Emily, Okay,

1206
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,959
Speaker 3: So what this boils down to Emily's type a? She's

1207
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 3: you know, planning, gives way in advance, She's being thoughtful

1208
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 3: non stop, she's doing brainstorming sessions. Her husband's the opposite

1209
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 3: he needs ideas for her, but he won't just listen

1210
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 3: to her. When she gives him ideas he rejects. He

1211
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 3: wants it to be a secret surprise. What I'm I mean,

1212
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 3: just from from the moment I'm hearing this, I'm hearing

1213
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 3: that Emily's husband wants her to start keeping things from him.

1214
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 3: He wants her to I'm going to encourage Emily to

1215
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 3: start hiding. We'll start with gifts, but then maybe personal things.

1216
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 3: And you know, suddenly she's living another life that her

1217
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 3: husband's not even aware of.

1218
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 4: I think that's great advice because this is a non problem.

1219
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 4: I hate to tell Emily that she wrote into this

1220
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 4: podcast to brag that she has a husband and that

1221
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 4: she has the means to buy presence enough bandwidth, have

1222
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:06,439
Speaker 4: a spreadsheet that she continues to update, and spends time

1223
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 4: with her husband and watches him trip out over buying

1224
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 4: stuff with his own money that he earns because they

1225
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 4: have a dual income.

1226
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 2: She's got a great life.

1227
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 4: I'm sure she's got a picket fence and a fun

1228
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 4: dog and maybe a kid if that's what she wants.

1229
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 4: Emily has a perfect life, and she called to brag,

1230
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 4: or she wrote in to brag.

1231
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 3: Her life is reigning gifts. She's throwing gifts of people.

1232
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 3: People are throwing gifts at her. I mean, to be

1233
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 3: able to run a spreadsheet, I have no idea. I mean,

1234
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 3: that would help with my docs, and I've got all

1235
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 3: these docs open and they are a mess. They are

1236
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 3: an absolute swamp of information.

1237
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 2: What's excel Emily?

1238
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, Emily. And that's why I'm thinking the husband has

1239
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 3: kind of given her this hint keep things from me.

1240
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 3: I feel like she's headed towards a Gone Girl type situation. Oh,

1241
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 3: you know, I can't remember exactly what the plot of

1242
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 3: Gone Girl was, but I feel like there was some lying,

1243
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 3: some deceit.

1244
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: Yes, the girl was gone.

1245
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 3: The girl was gone. And then she's cutting her hair

1246
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 3: in a big lots or something. I can't remember exactly

1247
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 3: what happened like that, and then she's trapped by Neil

1248
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 3: Patrick Harris. But I feel like that's what Emily's life

1249
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 3: is headed towards. You know, she is in paradise, but

1250
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 3: maybe there's some trouble brewing, and I encourage that.

1251
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 2: I agree. I encourage the trouble as well, because her

1252
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 2: life is too perfect.

1253
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 3: It's too perfect, and she's she's gonna get bored at

1254
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 3: some point, and then that's gonna be an even bigger

1255
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 3: problem for her.

1256
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 4: Imagine the news headline woman gone girls herself after listening

1257
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 4: to podcast.

1258
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 3: That is the type of press this podcast needs. That's

1259
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 3: all I want this pod. I need this podcast to

1260
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 3: be the spark of multiple crimes. I just want my

1261
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 3: all of my listeners to turn to crime. So if

1262
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 3: we can get the word out in that way, I'm

1263
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 3: happy to do it. And we start with Emily.

1264
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 2: Yes, Emily, start your crime.

1265
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 3: Spree, Nicole. We answered the question more than perfectly. Emily

1266
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 3: can't complain, and if she does, that's, you know, on her.

1267
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 3: There's only so much I can do. There's only so

1268
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 3: much you can do. And we just hope that Emily

1269
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 3: finds what she's really looking for. I hope so, Nicole.

1270
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 3: I've had such a terrific time with you here. I've

1271
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 3: now got these cough drops which I can kind of

1272
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 3: sprinkle throughout my bag and they'll just be kind of

1273
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 3: shuffling around down there for when I get some disgusting

1274
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 3: cough and then I can pop one in and be

1275
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 3: slightly under control.

1276
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, you're welcome.

1277
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 3: Yes, I can't thank you enough, and thank you for

1278
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 3: being here.

1279
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

1280
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 3: What a real treat listener. The podcast is screeching to

1281
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 3: a halt. You know the tap has been shut off.

1282
01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 3: The drip will slowly end and you will, of course

1283
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 3: move on. So I'm excited for you. I'm encouraging you

1284
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 3: to commit crime or do whatever you need to do

1285
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 3: with your day, whatever it takes to fill your life.

1286
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 3: I love you, goodbye, I said, No Gifts is an

1287
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 3: exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Annalise Nelson,

1288
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 3: and it's beautifully mixed by Leona Squilatchi. And we couldn't

1289
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 3: do it without our guest booker Patrick Kottner. The theme song,

1290
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 3: of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Mann.

1291
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 3: You must follow the show on Instagram at I said

1292
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 3: no gifts. I don't want to hear any excuses. That's

1293
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 3: where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous

1294
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 3: gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures

1295
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 3: of the gifts?

1296
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 2: But I invit, did you hear.

1297
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: Funa Man myself perfectly clear? But you're I guess tomer

1298
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: come to be empty? And I said no, guest your

1299
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 1: own presence is presents enough. I already had too much stuff,

1300
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: So how do you dare to surbey me?