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Speaker 5: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of This is the Owns,

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Speaker 5: This is the Omes.

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Speaker 3: I'm your girl, me and d B. I'm Weezy. We

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Speaker 3: have two guests today.

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Speaker 4: Don't get mad that it's not a solo episode because

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Speaker 4: you're gonna be very excited. If you're on the YouTube.

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Speaker 4: You got titties on the left and eyes on the right.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna introduce titties first, okay.

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Speaker 4: Because titties always confirsed.

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Speaker 5: Okay, we have we have Monica Simpson, who is the

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Speaker 5: executive director of Sister's Song, which is the Southern based

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Speaker 5: National Women of Color Reproductive Justice Collective.

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Speaker 3: And y'all we talked.

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Speaker 4: You got that, baby, because girl, I can read, you

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Speaker 4: don't know what I could read. I gonna hold you

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Speaker 4: reductious collective. The words were long, but I did it.

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Speaker 3: You did today. I was partner. You know our new

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Speaker 3: book I Feel Me. Andy says it really well.

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Speaker 4: But it's kind of worthy for me because I have

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Speaker 4: racist now a dual manifesto of sexual exploration. I'll just

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Speaker 4: be like way when you start laughing, I'll be like

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Speaker 4: Manifesto six that's what I've had crazy.

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Speaker 5: Well, let me introduce se y'all, because I feel like

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Speaker 5: y'all has kind of been introduced to him in life football.

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Speaker 5: But we have Kendrick Sampson, who was an actor, producer,

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Speaker 5: and activists who leverages his platform and storytelling to.

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Speaker 3: Shift culture for good.

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Speaker 5: You feel me, y'all may know him as Nathan from

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Speaker 5: Insecure or as Ethan in Prime's popular romantic comedy Something

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Speaker 5: from Tiffany.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I forgot about that was so cute? Was

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Speaker 3: that years ago? This was a while? Why did I forget?

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Speaker 3: This was a while ago? Okay?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he's like the first person to introduce bipolar

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Speaker 5: disorder to the black community.

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Speaker 3: But that's literally what his character did. Bro. You feel me.

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Speaker 4: I was like, dang, at least you wasn't the one

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Speaker 4: they hadn't introduced by sexuality because I feel like, let's

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Speaker 4: just say he was real in real life, he was straight.

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Speaker 4: I feel so bad for like characters that have a

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Speaker 4: super mask like a murder move and they gotta be like, damn, now,

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Speaker 4: I need to live in this and be like fucking

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Speaker 4: explain myself.

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Speaker 3: Shit, well shit.

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Speaker 5: Sharona sat Here introduced polyamory like, we.

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Speaker 4: Knows got it in him? Crazy a lot.

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Speaker 3: He's open for some horrible decision shows that when I thought,

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Speaker 5: By the way, I want to let y'all know too.

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Speaker 5: Kendrick also is the co founder of Bold Power.

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Speaker 3: And you do a lot of Bill. It was BLD

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Speaker 6: The best the best version of it was the dude

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Speaker 6: that's so crazy, and he was like really proud of

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Speaker 4: Two got together because I was saying earlier before cameras

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Speaker 4: a movie out, but y'all are literally doing social justice reform.

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Speaker 1: We live in a movie.

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Speaker 3: That's what America is.

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Speaker 7: In the United States of America, yeah, we were actually just.

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Speaker 7: We met, uh twenty seventeen, what's that twenty sixteen?

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Speaker 6: Yes, but did were you also at the Elizabeth Warren meeting.

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Speaker 3: In New Orleans?

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Speaker 7: No, No, it's in a minute, Like we've been in

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Speaker 7: a mallet ship, right, but elections, Yeah, okay, but we were.

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Speaker 3: That and it was in New Orleans. That's exactly where

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Speaker 1: When I That's where I was like, I need them

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Speaker 7: And then you created this really dope art Activism Exchange

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Speaker 7: And so we just started making these connections around like

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Speaker 3: And it's just been a powerful connection ever since.

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Speaker 5: It's been amazing, like looking up both of the platforms too,

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Speaker 5: like it looks like you all have such a strong team.

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Speaker 3: Like that, to see so many women on yours, to

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Speaker 5: I was just like Oh, this is really dope, and

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Speaker 5: I love that your team whoever did it, because we

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Speaker 5: was just making fun of how we normally don't respond

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Speaker 5: we haven't yet done or really touched on too much

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Speaker 5: We've talked about our stories, but haven't really talked about

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Speaker 4: Forward yet telling my abortion story to hell the people.

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Speaker 7: We thank you for that though, because you know how

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Speaker 7: many people are so scared to tell their stories still.

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Speaker 7: So storytelling is important, but I do understand like it's

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Speaker 7: like we're continuing to have to tell these stories over

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Speaker 7: rollbacks of all the things, and more bands put into

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Speaker 7: it does feel like why am I still telling the story?

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Speaker 7: But I just want to let you know and remind

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Speaker 7: you you are, because there's so many people who.

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Speaker 3: Can't I do.

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Speaker 5: I do want to you saying that is incredible because

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Speaker 5: I like, y'all are really boot a strap on the

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Speaker 5: like I want to know politicians whatever, you know what

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Speaker 5: I mean, We just.

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Speaker 3: Want show up to a parade, not a parade march,

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Speaker 3: see like politically like well bike ride.

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Speaker 5: I'm I don't think people would really consider us activists

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Speaker 5: for the movement by just sharing stories. But I love

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Speaker 5: that you said the more these conversations are had. And unfortunately,

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Speaker 5: I also feel like again the way your character Nathan

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Speaker 5: was able to bring awareness to bipolar disorder and navigating that.

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Speaker 5: I don't think in prime television and film we've seen

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Speaker 5: anyone navigating abortion. We haven't seen really people navigating outside

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Speaker 5: of handmade sales, which I know is kind of sci fi.

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Speaker 5: Sure it still doesn't touch on it doesn't touch on

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Speaker 5: the decision of abortion.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 7: I do, And I would agree with you to a

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Speaker 7: argument that's like, oh, we've seen some abortions and some

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Speaker 7: stories before, but I think that we haven't seen enough,

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Speaker 7: in my opinion, in black culture and the many different

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Speaker 7: stories around abortion. I think that sometimes people feel like

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Speaker 7: there's like one story you didn't want to have a kid,

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Speaker 7: so you had an abortion, or you are too promiscuous,

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Speaker 7: so you just what you were not being responsible and

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Speaker 7: so now you have to have an abortion.

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Speaker 4: Or you never see couples talk about the choice to

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Speaker 4: have an abortion. Absolutely married, I've.

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Speaker 3: Already got kids.

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Speaker 4: It's always we were in a situation that was mine.

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Speaker 4: We were in a situationship. But like that's a standard story,

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Speaker 4: I believe when it happens at a certain age. But

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Speaker 4: for some reason, I've heard even the thing like you're

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Speaker 3: Oh I ain't gonna lie. I tell that to myself.

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Speaker 5: That's why there's condoms in my kitchen, my bedroom and everywhere,

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Speaker 5: because I'll be like, I will tell a man like

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Speaker 5: you know, I'm I'm dating so one eight years younger

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Speaker 5: I'm too old to be having an abortion.

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Speaker 3: I'm responsible, you.

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Speaker 1: Know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like, wait, what we use condom? Do not do this relationships?

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Speaker 3: That is crazy if you.

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Speaker 7: But condoms are necessary?

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Speaker 3: Are having a new combo? Yes, I need.

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Speaker 4: Drew say boyfriend, he is my boyfriend, and baby, the

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Speaker 4: condoms are packed and the luggage for us being on vacation.

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Speaker 3: I know that he wants children.

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Speaker 1: I do not.

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Speaker 3: And so the conversation is well, baby, I don't want

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Speaker 3: to kill the baby. You won't. Oh this is so good, Kendrick.

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Speaker 3: You look shocked, but please share your thoughts. Oh where

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Speaker 3: do we go from? We do?

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Speaker 5: We start with condom? I would love to know a man's.

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Speaker 6: Perspective, Yes, the man's perspective on having sex with condoms

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Speaker 6: in a relationship or okay, because I touched on a

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Speaker 6: lot of things.

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Speaker 1: Literally, Yeah, so.

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Speaker 6: You're saying that it's not that once you established that

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Speaker 6: you're in a relationship, you now you.

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Speaker 4: Say you want to make sure he understands your perspectives.

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Speaker 1: You're you're saying you use we just got I like

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Speaker 1: to call.

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Speaker 6: Saying wrap it up, okay, and you saying once you

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Speaker 6: in a relationship, NA pull it out.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So here's the thing. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: I'm on birth control, I mean, but yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's the only thing you got to worry about.

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Speaker 4: In my relationship, I mean my relationship. Like at some point,

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Speaker 4: I think everybody's got to make a choice when they

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Speaker 4: want condoms to be for the reality we together every night,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Now, in a non monogamous relationship,

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Speaker 4: you got to have those conversations too, which I do.

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Speaker 6: I think most I don't stay prayed up. I stay tested,

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Speaker 6: not on purpose. But most relationships are non monogamous, so you.

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Speaker 3: Only have sex. Wait second, kidd too, come.

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Speaker 6: Of the time, I'm wrapping the funk up. But when

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Speaker 6: you think that you don't know what somebody just.

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Speaker 3: In a community relationship.

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Speaker 1: Relationship, I know you ain't using them.

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Speaker 3: All the time.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I know a lot of people they refuse. I'm

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Speaker 4: I just find it sometimes jarring when like, I have

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Speaker 4: a married friend of mine, Oh, they're not watching thirteen years.

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Speaker 3: And may be using condoms.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes she'd be like, bitch, I'll be getting scared, and

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Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, totally get it.

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Speaker 3: She doesn't want to get on another form of birth control.

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Speaker 3: But I do get very.

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Speaker 4: Right because no, in this relationship, I'm not worried about

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Speaker 4: sexually transmitted diseases. We've made a choice to have sex

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Speaker 4: together with condoms, and when we have sex with other

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Speaker 4: people together, you get tested results whatever. Right, But what

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Speaker 4: you're saying is even in that committed relationship, you still.

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Speaker 6: Don't feel if y'all, you would have to establish a

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Speaker 5: I didn't want a baby and there was a reason

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Speaker 3: Right, I'm saying, though, like using the.

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Speaker 6: Condoms, Well, here's the thing, Like, you know, when you

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Speaker 6: do decide to not use a condom, it makes it

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Speaker 6: when you do, you know, that means that sometimes you

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Speaker 6: I don't expect you know, I'm coming from a completely

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Speaker 6: different perspective. I don't do relationships like that, and I

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Speaker 6: don't really.

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Speaker 3: That's why you had ninety nine.

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Speaker 1: Ninety nine point nine nine.

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Speaker 3: When is the point what happened? Zero zero one?

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Speaker 6: When I make a conscious, healthy decision to do so? Okay,

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Speaker 6: and see it because if y'all not mess. That's another

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Speaker 4: I have to be honest, don't like where this is going.

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Speaker 4: Not using condoms isn't unhealthy and safe scenarios and trust

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: But what I was literally about to say is you

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Speaker 3: Ship we talking about a condom?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm you don't know what nigga help and you

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Speaker 4: decided to make him your maid.

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Speaker 5: But especially not monogamous. What about a woman you pick

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Speaker 5: like not knowing who all they fucked with? Really, even

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Speaker 5: results like that's not a common conversation, especially with people

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Speaker 5: who aren't sex workers. Like I was dating a couple

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Speaker 5: because a lot of the casual people that are not

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Speaker 3: Let's be real, I mean, that is.

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Speaker 1: It, And everybody don't watch that.

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Speaker 3: Everybody at what was all last test?

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Speaker 7: My last test was Oh, I just went to the

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Speaker 3: My charge is January fourteen. Yeah, I was in January. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I found I do not engage with penis. Let me

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Speaker 7: I do not engage with Oh, you don't engage with peenia. No,

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Speaker 7: I've been off penis for about twenty years.

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Speaker 3: Oh you want to be good, let me tell you. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: not nine two thousands. Can I ask you what makes

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Speaker 3: me it's funny? Because this has been a.

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Speaker 5: This has been a conversation on Housewives recently on how

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Speaker 5: This happened, and Ronnie, it's happening in Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 5: What what makes you go from having it? If being

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Speaker 5: because Dick is beautiful, it's great, it looks.

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Speaker 3: Nice to them, just saying I think I was done

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Speaker 3: with it for twenty years. I don't think it looks nice.

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Speaker 3: Movie very clear. I always thought it was a very weird. Oh.

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Speaker 3: I never wished to you.

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Speaker 7: I'm just I was just like, this is a very

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Speaker 7: interesting looking thing. And I was very it was. It

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Speaker 7: once they realize that, oh I have some freedom, I'm

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Speaker 7: making my own money, I'm not depending on other people.

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Speaker 7: I can actually try some other things. Yeah, now I'm

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Speaker 7: gonna try to eat some pussy.

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Speaker 6: You know what.

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Speaker 7: I may like it, I may not like it.

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Speaker 4: I economic status may come into play with sexuality.

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Speaker 7: Because again I think it's about conditioning at the patriarchy.

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Speaker 7: It is about patriarchy at the end of the day.

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Speaker 7: So we still will live in the country, even though

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Speaker 3: And we've been taught.

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Speaker 7: I know I was taught, especially as a Southern Black woman,

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Speaker 7: y'all can make it.

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Speaker 3: But it doesn't.

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Speaker 7: It was never given to me that you could actually

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Speaker 7: going to be able to hold you down right, and

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Speaker 7: then you hold him down. And so I think that

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Speaker 7: And I think that it's taken these past maybe decade,

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Speaker 7: where people are starting to realize that I can actually

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Speaker 7: hold on to that very old school, very patriarchal, very

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Speaker 7: you knowternalistic way that we've been taught to actually be

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Speaker 7: enter into relationship, stay in relationship, what types of relationships

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Speaker 7: they want to be on be in, what types of

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Speaker 7: We're not taught that you could like really have fun

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Speaker 7: You have these kids. It's not about pleasure. We're not

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Speaker 7: taught about pleasure.

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Speaker 3: You're really like making me think.

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Speaker 4: I host a lot of HIV awareness dinners with Gilead

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Speaker 4: to pleasure.

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Speaker 3: It was and it really wasn't too deep.

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Speaker 5: It was just it was it's only that's how if

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Speaker 3: Either way. Now, I was gonna say so. I grew

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Speaker 7: We had abstinence only sex education all right in Florida,

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Speaker 7: and we were incentivized to not have sex on Prom.

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Speaker 7: They told us if you didn't have sex on Prom,

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Speaker 7: there was gonna give you this cupon and go to

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Speaker 7: Pizza Hut.

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Speaker 3: To get shut up pizza. Yeah, and I sent the

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Speaker 3: Pizza Hut pizza. But how long did they know?

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Speaker 5: How would they know I fucked on Prom?

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Speaker 3: Like that's yeah, pans sausage pizza. That ship was the

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Speaker 5: Hey, well you could go to Pizza Hut and they

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Speaker 3: Go, oh my god, Pizza Hut. Du fell pizza hut

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Speaker 3: still around. It's still around, but it's not the same. Oh,

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Speaker 3: I didn't know.

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Speaker 4: I just thirteen years iza. Have you heard Monica teld

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Speaker 4: the story of being incentivized to not fuck.

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Speaker 3: I was because I'm not gonna hold you. That's insane,

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Speaker 7: But so many people grow up with this story, like

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Speaker 3: But I started sucking at a very young age.

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Speaker 7: Why because nobody was teaching me about my body, and

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Speaker 3: Nobody was validating me.

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Speaker 7: If somebody would have told me that your first sexual

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Speaker 3: Girl, I don't I don't count mine.

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Speaker 4: Me and my my friends definitely dry humped and played

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Speaker 3: We were like.

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Speaker 5: We were dry humping, like we was. Florida is called hunching,

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Speaker 5: you wasn't.

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Speaker 3: I I was hunching with panties. Never we never like, actually, scizzard,

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Speaker 3: but I hunched a.

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Speaker 3: Grade. But I didn't hunt your girl in fifth grade.

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Speaker 7: But I'm just saying I didn't see that as like

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Speaker 4: Everything relationship, I know, the successful Like since we've been

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Speaker 4: and we make jokes about having a sexual experience with.

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Speaker 3: This dude and how we're like, oh, I love you baby.

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Speaker 4: We look at each other beach fixed my my wig

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Speaker 3: Gay man too, you'd be like, is that his home way?

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Speaker 3: Like I literally know, and I literally don't know if

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Speaker 5: In the book, there's a whole chapter on It starts

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Speaker 5: it puts you in the world that you be two

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: You remember a little fan fishing story, don't.

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Speaker 3: I used to get off by reading. I'm thirty four

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Speaker 4: Back in the day, that's on my part of.

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Speaker 6: You'd be waiting for three hours and then somebody calling

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Speaker 6: trying to fact something.

445
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,480
Speaker 4: So much art that in the introduction of the book

446
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 4: I said they had. I went to a computer class

447
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 4: in school and the sound came on to like teach kids,

448
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,880
Speaker 4: you know, like the keyboard ship, and I started thinking about,

449
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,560
Speaker 4: like literally my brain was like, oh, we're about to

450
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 4: watch porn. That's how much that sound. At one point,

451
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 4: I remember Van Late told me this crazy shit. I

452
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,560
Speaker 4: wish we had talked about it with him when we

453
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 4: interviewed him, but he was like, bruh. When I was

454
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 4: writing my book, I would open up my computer and

455
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,159
Speaker 4: be like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna look at porn. Like

456
00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 4: we associate certain things with sex so much, and I

457
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,480
Speaker 4: kind of love that. Like in my childhood it was

458
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,400
Speaker 4: not so much in my face. I got to explore

459
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 4: pornography on my own, whereas right now.

460
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Speaker 3: Right now, you're going it's just everything. Twitter TikTok. TikTok

461
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:43,640
Speaker 3: is hellosexual.

462
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 4: I'm starting to see breastfeeding ship on my Instagram is

463
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:47,479
Speaker 4: a way to show titties.

464
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Speaker 3: Is that you said that's sexual? I was like, that's

465
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Speaker 3: not sexual.

466
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 4: Oh you ain't see the one I'm talking about. But

467
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:58,160
Speaker 4: there's like sexualized girls with bikinis on big titties that

468
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 4: pull the titty out, feed their kid and get the

469
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:00,919
Speaker 4: camera flirty.

470
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 3: Y'all ain't seen this. No, some people really know that.

471
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 3: I haven't seen this one. This one has.

472
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:16,679
Speaker 4: Why I'm not look okay, wait, I am listen to me.

473
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 3: I do have titties on my you page a lot, Okay.

474
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,399
Speaker 4: And so for some reason, the rest feeders started coming

475
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:22,959
Speaker 4: up and I'm like, is this real? And it's like,

476
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 4: that is crazy, It's crazy. I want to I know,

477
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 4: we've so crazytic. I want to get into our hypothetical

478
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 4: because you will be talking about reproductive justice and all

479
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 4: the things, and this is just to like get your

480
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 4: get your wheels turning.

481
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 3: Okay, what you would do in these scenarios.

482
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Speaker 5: Okay, So we're gonna start off like a little crazy,

483
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 5: then we're gonna get a little serious.

484
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 3: Okay.

485
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,880
Speaker 5: That's so the first one is, and I want answer

486
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Speaker 5: from everyone. Okay, if men could have babies, what do

487
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 5: you think would be the most outrageous baby shower theme

488
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,040
Speaker 5: that they'd want to throw.

489
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 3: Baby shower?

490
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 6: They were probably the most ridiculous. Is football with the baby?

491
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 3: That's what football? For me? I would like that would

492
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 3: be down there, like you don't care that baby?

493
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 1: What is that.

494
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 3: Ship? That's what he did that? Oh my god, that

495
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 3: is football.

496
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 7: Okay, now I gotta find out because he took football. Okay,

497
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 7: he took football.

498
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Speaker 5: What do you think would be the most outrageous theme

499
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Speaker 5: if men could play baby showers?

500
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 3: Oh? Man, I don't know. I don't know why. The

501
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 3: Kappas came in my mind for whatever reason, I don't

502
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 3: know why.

503
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 7: But I don't fraternity baby shower like I just see

504
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 7: imagine one.

505
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Speaker 3: I just listen. It would be like in a strip

506
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 3: club maybe.

507
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 7: But I just get Kappa's fall into my algorithm all

508
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 7: the time because in my mind I want to be

509
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 7: a Kappa, and only because I want to do the

510
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 7: little roll thing.

511
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 3: Right now, that's a born right. I do have too much.

512
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 3: I shoulders. It's all on the show, I know. But

513
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get it together.

514
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 7: But anyway, I think a fraternity thing one would actually

515
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 7: be the case because I could see like the Kappa's

516
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 7: doing like an all red and white situation, you know,

517
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 7: with little canes and ship like.

518
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 3: I could see it. I can see not a hookah,

519
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 3: it's like a last Hurrah like type things.

520
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 6: A baby shower, like I don't know before after the

521
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 6: child is born.

522
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 3: No, you're pregnant. If a man is pregnant, you pregnant

523
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Speaker 3: at the time.

524
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying, oh so you have it's before

525
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: the child.

526
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 3: Yes, look, men.

527
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 5: Don't even know when he like you before after the baby.

528
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 3: Kendrick said, I've been in no baby shower.

529
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 4: You remember that New York baby shower went to My

530
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 4: man is not Jerrying, so all his family is like

531
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 4: fire right, they're great.

532
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 3: But the friends k was getting the ski mask.

533
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 4: Them niggas had the chains on, just holding diapers coming

534
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 4: up the stairs, and I was.

535
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 3: Like, oh my god, key mask to a baby shower.

536
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 4: It was winter time, so you know what they are, bro,

537
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 4: it's a New York nigga part on baby shower. Why

538
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 4: three of them niggas knew me in there, and they

539
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 4: was just like, oh you easy and I'm just like,

540
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 4: oh my god, I'm so embarrassed, bitch. They sitting there

541
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 4: playing pop smoke. They doing this ship in his fucking

542
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 4: baby shower.

543
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 5: But they took the ski masks off right once they

544
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 5: got inside.

545
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 3: They just pull them down like neck. They just keep

546
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 3: them all yo. They had they fucking glasses on.

547
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 4: And then you see just like you know, the family,

548
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 4: like their parents looking all nice with the traditional African

549
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 4: where and I'm like.

550
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 3: This is so New York bro like men.

551
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 4: So anyway, she didn't have as many friends as he did,

552
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 4: and I got to see a man baby shop for

553
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 4: the first time.

554
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 3: It's kind of the same. They dap you out.

555
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 4: They be like, bro, it's it nigga you do upstairs smoking.

556
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 3: It's the same ship.

557
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, babies ain't gonna be there.

558
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 3: The pregnant though the dude is pregnant, he can't have baby.

559
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Speaker 7: I mean, there are some people, I mean, there are

560
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 7: some people who believe in marijuana doing pregnancy, So I

561
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 7: mean there's that, but anyway, that's.

562
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Speaker 3: So more a more thoughtful one.

563
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 4: By the way, I just think they're gonna have a

564
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 4: call of duty theme one because I just swear motherfuckers

565
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 4: like like they're gonna be drinking drinking baby milk from

566
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 4: like fake guns and stuff like, Okay, they gonna have mission.

567
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 4: They're gonna have mission set up. I like a little

568
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 4: water gun. Now I want that Vachel Rat party.

569
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 5: But oh my god, this next one is more thoughtful, right, Okay,

570
00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 5: So let's see in a world where men have babies. Now,

571
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 5: this is where they carry, this is where they do

572
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 5: the delivery AUTI things, how do you think the dynamics

573
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 5: of parenting would change between moms and dads? And what

574
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 5: dynamics do you think would change sexually? Because and I

575
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 5: thought about this so for me, I think, ironically the

576
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 5: conversation we just had earlier about the condoms, I think

577
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 5: men would be far more forthcoming.

578
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 3: So wrap it up, Brady.

579
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 5: They were the ones experiencing pregnancy as one of the symptoms.

580
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 5: I do think a lot of men don't be scared

581
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 5: of the STDs enough, But if they knew what fear

582
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 5: pregnancy has and so many people, I think they would

583
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 5: be more thoughtful in unprotected sex. Also in the dynamics

584
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 5: of parenting. No, I don't think STDs affects many people's

585
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 5: thoughts on sex just yet. The other dynamic that I

586
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 5: think would change between the parenting styles is again they

587
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 5: would be more thoughtful because then they would end up

588
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 5: the single daddy's and it would change a lot of

589
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 5: the less of the single parent household.

590
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I can dig it.

591
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 7: I think that this might be the way for us

592
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 7: to like take out patriarchy because I think if men

593
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 7: had to actually carry a child for nine months and

594
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 7: give birth to child, that it's going to.

595
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: Change them mentally. I think that's what's gonna shoop.

596
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 7: Okay, because what I don't think that men realize, and

597
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 7: a lot of people don't really really realize across the board,

598
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 7: is that whoever is carrying this child and then bringing

599
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 7: this child into the world, they now have this biological

600
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 7: chemical connection to this child. And so therefore you are

601
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 7: all in my opinion, I'm not a doctor, but in

602
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 7: my opinion, I feel like you are always going to

603
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 7: be more emotionally connected in a particular kind of way. Right,

604
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 7: So that means there's a more emotional labor that you're

605
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 7: putting into this, and I don't think that men take

606
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 7: that into consideration sometimes, that it's not just like, oh,

607
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 7: I'm carrying all things and I'm changing a baby, feeding

608
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 7: a baby, and everything. My emotions are connected to this

609
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 7: kid in a way that they I don't think they

610
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 7: would ever understand.

611
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 3: And so now if they have.

612
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 7: To hold that emotional type of weight, I think it's

613
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 7: going to shift them mentally, and I think that they

614
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 7: may be like, maybe this patriarchy shit is not.

615
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 3: Great you saying that.

616
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 4: It reminds me of like when I see like I

617
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 4: love like documentaries and reading like the crazy things that

618
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 4: happen in America.

619
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 3: So anytime I see like a mother.

620
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 5: Who's a bad mom, because those exist where they just

621
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 5: don't show up for their child, or even like the

622
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 5: Casey Anthony shit that was big when I was growing

623
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 5: up in Florida, and I'm just like, something ain't right

624
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 5: because the scientific connection that you do have with a child,

625
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 5: for them to abandon them or not want them around

626
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 5: always makes me a question like, maybe what the hell

627
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 5: is wrong with you that this hasn't formed a stronger connection? Yeah,

628
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 5: And I think that's what we don't think about enough

629
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 5: when because we can tie all this shit into like

630
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 5: the deeper conversations around like those people choosing to have

631
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 5: abortions and choosing not to parent just you see what

632
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like, everyone doesn't have the capacity.

633
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 3: I can't be a mama.

634
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 7: Everyone does not have a capacity divipers or a vacation.

635
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 4: Hell no, I want to hop on a flight.

636
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: Listen. And I don't think that we talk about that enough.

637
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 7: I think that there's been a couple of people, like

638
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 7: I've seen people come through my social media feed that's like,

639
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 7: fuck this parenting thing. I don't want to do it.

640
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 7: I don't want a responsibility. I don't want to do

641
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 7: all of that. And I don't think that we should

642
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 7: demonize those folks. I think that they're crazy for saying that.

643
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 7: I think that we should be commending people who are

644
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 7: like I realize now because A I don't want to

645
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 7: B because I know that I am managing other mental

646
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 7: health things. See, because I don't have the emotional bandwidth. D.

647
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 7: I don't have the finance whatever those things are, if

648
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 7: they have put deep thought into because I don't think

649
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 7: that that's the part that we take into account with

650
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 7: people's abortion stories, is that they have put thoughts and

651
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 7: to whether or not they are going to end a

652
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 7: pregnant and.

653
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 5: Maybe unfortunately sometimes that thinking has to happen fairly quickly.

654
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 3: They're done now with these laws, Let's have something testier.

655
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 3: I want you to answer this question.

656
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 4: Oh, we always hear or you know, sex and he's

657
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 4: my favorite comp for everything in life.

658
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: Okay, Miranda wanted an abortion? Yep. Steve was like, do

659
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: I get to say? What are your things?

660
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 4: Abortions could come back and be legal everywhere if men

661
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 4: and women both had to make the choice together, how

662
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 4: do you think things would end up? Do you think

663
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 4: men should have a say and whether or not an

664
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 4: abortion is happening?

665
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Speaker 6: So the first thing is not if it can come back,

666
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 6: we can get abortion legalized.

667
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 3: When it comes back. Let's work. We got this work.

668
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 6: When we have stronger protections in place right than we

669
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 6: had right because it was already fragile. If it could

670
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 6: be taken away like that, right? And no, I mean

671
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 6: if I'm not carrying it? Now, do I have an opinion?

672
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 6: You say, do you have a say? I'm guessing you

673
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 6: mean should I have any authority over that?

674
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 4: Well, I'm saying, like, this is all hypothetical world, right,

675
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 4: this is our hypothetical segment. So I'm thinking what if

676
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 4: they said, hey, much like a women had to sign,

677
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 4: you both have to sign that this is okay.

678
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: How do you think men and women would what do

679
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: you how.

680
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 4: Do you think that would shift? Do you think we

681
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 4: would see less abortions if men had.

682
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: To me? I don't.

683
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 6: I think having a signature if a man, if it

684
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 6: has to require a man's signature, it's still oppression. I'm like,

685
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 6: what's the better?

686
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because where's autonomy?

687
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, if that's it's even worse than I mean, yes,

688
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 6: but even worse than that. It's saying if I disagree

689
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 6: that you have to carry a child for nine months,

690
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 6: that's right.

691
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: I was going to say, I feel like the opposite.

692
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 4: I feel like women that want to carry and men

693
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 4: are necessarily like happy with it.

694
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: I would think we would see an uptick in abortion.

695
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: I really don't.

696
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 4: Feel that a lot of the scenarios we're seeing where

697
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 4: women choose to have a kid alone are necessarily their

698
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 4: own choice, Like you know what I mean, it's not

699
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 4: their fault. It is that this guy's like, yo, you

700
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 4: want to do that, It's up to you. We see

701
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 4: that scenario so many times. So when I think about

702
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 4: abortion in that way, I'm like, I wonder if the

703
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 4: shoe was on the other foot, where men had to

704
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 4: have the choice as well, are we going to have

705
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 4: this baby together or we're not?

706
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 3: Would we see it go up?

707
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 6: When we see it he has to stick around? Or well,

708
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 6: because what's the commitment there?

709
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 3: We go right, that man has to up? Is it financial?

710
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, so because we're I mean, if we dependent on

711
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 6: the American legal system, then we fucked all together. So

712
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 6: what is the contract you enter into with the person?

713
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 6: And then where's the accountability to that contract? Is it

714
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 6: the community? Is it you know, her dad and your parents?

715
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 6: Are they around? You know what I'm saying. Is it

716
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 6: the mom?

717
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: Is it?

718
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 3: Absolutely?

719
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 6: What is the accountability to that? So, I mean that's

720
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 6: why I'm saying. The difference between a say, you know,

721
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 6: I can't. I can't have an opinion. I want you

722
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 6: to have it. I don't want you to have it.

723
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 6: I'm not ready to be a dad. I'm ready to

724
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 6: be a dad.

725
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I was on the opposite end of that.

726
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 5: So in our book, my abortion story leans into the

727
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 5: fact that so I got pregnant and I knew my

728
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 5: body was off. I literally called him and this is

729
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 5: how young am. I said, how many times you netted?

730
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 5: Because I count nuts?

731
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 3: And he counted five.

732
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: I ain't count more than three in the same session.

733
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 3: Oh we was going, Yeah, I was sixteen.

734
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 6: I ain't never been there yet, right bless I mean everybody,

735
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 6: if you could do that, great congratulations.

736
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: But I love Brown. I love it. So I started

737
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 3: out the gate since the start.

738
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 5: So anyways, I called to him knowing like my body

739
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 5: felt weird, like I just felt it in my in

740
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 5: my soul.

741
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 3: And I share this story. How I call him.

742
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 5: I let him know that this happens, and I'm like,

743
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 5: I don't want to be a mother, so I need some.

744
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 3: Money for this abortion.

745
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 4: And and at the time my mom couldn't afford it,

746
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 4: so needed him.

747
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 5: My daddy said figure it out, like I So I

748
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 5: went to him, and I remember him being irate. Mind you,

749
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 5: we just had sex a couple of weeks ago. He

750
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 5: already had a daughter, or already had a son. He

751
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 5: was convinced I had the other sex of the baby.

752
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 5: So he was like, you about to kill my son,

753
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 5: You about to kill my.

754
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 3: And that was.

755
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 5: You said what She was convinced that I was carrying

756
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 5: the other sex that he wanted, like he wanted another kid.

757
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 5: And so when I told him, I was pregnant. He

758
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 5: was like, oh, I know you carrying my seat.

759
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 3: Like but he he was convinced.

760
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 5: I was like, well, I'm not having it, and he

761
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 5: chose not to help me at all. And what's crazy

762
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 5: is made the best decision of my life because the

763
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 5: week I even went niggaphone like kept going dead, talked

764
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 5: to his friend.

765
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 4: He got locked up. He was a game banker named Almo.

766
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 4: Shouldn't have been fucking him anyway.

767
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 3: But this is also my fault.

768
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 4: This is a weezy's fault, for sure. We were steam

769
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 4: we were sixteen.

770
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 3: And we went over to Tampa.

771
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 4: But he had a friend, as he had a friend.

772
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 4: The friend the friend was Almos. Because why was it

773
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 4: because he was a blood? He was a blood?

774
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: I mean, you know that's to me street. I also

775
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 3: just want to add, we are great the game. We

776
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 3: are a good people. Game bankers.

777
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 4: Oh I did that one game making years ago, but

778
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 4: that was a one two time thing and I was

779
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 4: in la happened.

780
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 3: Game bankers are good people too.

781
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 5: I'm just saying my decision to get an abortion with

782
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 5: a man who ended up being locked up while I

783
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 5: was pregnant in my first drama, I'm just glad that

784
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 5: it ended up that way. But I say all that

785
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 5: to say I was in that predicament where it was

786
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 5: my choice. I wanted to do it, despite the fact

787
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 5: that he actually wanted me to keep it, and because

788
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 5: of my decision, he said, I'm.

789
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 3: Not helping you pay for it. I'm against this, and.

790
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 5: He literally I remember him yelling at me, you're killing

791
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 5: my child and that that happening at such a young

792
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 5: age might be why I'm so pro kind of now

793
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 5: and don't want to experience it again.

794
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: I was.

795
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 3: I was fucking.

796
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 5: Distraught because it was a decision that I had to

797
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 5: make where both my parents also couldn't financially help me.

798
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 4: So I'm going into my junior year of high school.

799
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 4: I can't afford this. He got locked up.

800
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 5: So my friend who worked at Colt soon literally shout

801
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 5: out to Kita literally had to help me pay.

802
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 3: From her cold.

803
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 4: Shout out to abortions.

804
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 7: I hope they line. But you know, I think the

805
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 7: other thing that what comes up from in your.

806
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 6: Story, but what comes up from your story is this.

807
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 7: It's about this, you know, because we hear this a

808
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 7: lot in the stories and the work that we do

809
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 7: around reproductive justice. A lot, and it's like we've been

810
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 7: trying it, which is why you know it's work with

811
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 7: Kendrick has been so dope, is that we're trying to

812
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 7: bridge this gap between like men coming into this conversation

813
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 7: and where do their stories really fair to?

814
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 6: Right?

815
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 7: But I think that what I've heard continuously is that

816
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 7: these men saying, well, I wanted them to have this baby,

817
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 7: and so I interrogate that a little bit. Right, It's like,

818
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 7: when did you have the conversation with this person that

819
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 7: you're choosing to have sex with, telling them what your

820
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 7: reproductive desires were, that you actually want to have a kid.

821
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 3: Because most of the time, a lot of these dudes.

822
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 7: Are choosing women who are beautiful because I know you

823
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 7: was fine, He's just still fine, so you fine. They

824
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 7: see these women, they give them the look that they want,

825
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 7: and they want to create these babies with these women

826
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 7: that look a particular kind of way that can continue

827
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 7: their seed and make them look really dope and all

828
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 7: these other kinds of things.

829
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 3: And that's actually very manipulative.

830
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 7: It is to go into sexual connection with somebody like

831
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 7: that if you know that you want a kid and

832
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 7: you know the person that she was with don't.

833
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 3: Then why are you? And we didn't have that conversation.

834
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 5: I was I was young and done with the belief

835
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 5: you just started having sex.

836
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not gonna get pregnant in your one, you know,

837
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: like I was just like Stone fact here. Not only

838
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 3: are they involved in politics.

839
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 4: Okay, the owner of Coldstone, Doug Doosey, is a Republican politician.

840
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 4: She was a governor of Arizona, also backing Trump, supporting Trump.

841
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 3: Well you know what the owner juicy, you paid for

842
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 3: my asp.

843
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 4: Futhored bikell So.

844
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 5: Speaking of Republicans and all the things, normally they play

845
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 5: a clip for our reactionary okay, and I need your

846
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 5: uh Kendrick specifically because he was unaware that this was

847
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 5: a thing. So so back in January, of course, immediately

848
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 5: following Trump getting in the motherfucking office, Mississippi decided to

849
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 5: introduce a bill that would find unprotected sex. So it's

850
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 5: the bill is around contraception begins at erection. So so

851
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 5: Sippy got is embarrassing.

852
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 3: They might be more embarrassing in Florida.

853
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 4: Okay, some Bible is big and on the bill, listen,

854
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 4: the niggas said, don't even get a hard.

855
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 5: So a bill to a band unprotected sex without the

856
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 5: intent of procreation has been filed. Here's the surprise by

857
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 5: a Democrat in the Mississippi Senate. The bill is called

858
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 5: Counterception Begins a Direction Act, and while the bill has

859
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 5: caused snarky jokes to be jabbed, the bill's author acknowledge

860
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 5: the intent is to get a political rise, of course,

861
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 5: but also for people who are against abortion to finally

862
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 5: have reasons as to why the fuck they're planning.

863
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 3: These stops on women.

864
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 5: So I went into this and it says that basically

865
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 5: they would introduce bounty hunters and give incentives to women

866
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 5: who are having sex with a man who maybe hasn't

867
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 5: talked about their needs and desires to procreate, and a

868
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 5: woman could go and pretty much submit him to be

869
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 5: arrested because his intent was to have sex with her

870
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Speaker 5: without the purpose of procreation.

871
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: Now, when he was reading into this, we were.

872
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 5: Like, okay, so can a man jack often like, is

873
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 5: a man able to ejaculate also without the desire to

874
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 5: have sex. I don't know if it went as hard

875
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 5: as the jack off part.

876
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: But that's what the that's what the language was.

877
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 4: But the language was around you can't ejaculate unless you

878
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 4: want to have a baby.

879
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, which then he's like.

880
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 1: Tough, But it's.

881
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 3: So about the birth of a nation. That's what it's about, brod.

882
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 3: Have you ever retained your semen?

883
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: Absolutely?

884
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 3: What was what was the reason? What? What was you

885
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 3: retaining seamen for? Okay? Look, that's oh, it's pleasure.

886
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 6: It's pleasure, and sometimes it's exhausting. You come and you're like,

887
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Speaker 6: I'm ship. I don't want to do nothing after that.

888
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 4: I want to tell you some tea of that. I

889
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 4: dated an actor in La that I never had sex with.

890
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 4: For a few months.

891
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 3: We dated. He's great too, you know, and we didn't have.

892
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 4: You're gonna be like, really, he didn't want to have

893
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 4: sex because he was doing steamen retention because he had

894
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 4: a role coming up.

895
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Speaker 3: I was like, nigga, you're not a fighter in the movie,

896
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 3: Like this is a love story. What the fuck? Dog?

897
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 6: I was so fucking maybe you wanted to really, Look,

898
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 6: I ain't gonna lie to you anything. I mean you

899
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 6: you'll have men about to take a test, you know,

900
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Speaker 6: I mean like in school and for real, for real.

901
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 6: It is it encompasses your whole focus when you when

902
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 6: you can't when I can't when I want to fuck,

903
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 6: I want to fuck, and I don't.

904
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: I can't focus on nothing else. And if I want

905
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: to put.

906
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 6: Everything into whatever a goal, you know, something that I'm

907
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 6: trying to achieve and be productive, because if I don't,

908
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 6: then ain't nobody gonna want to fucking.

909
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 3: Your hard dick in the bed And you can't.

910
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 4: And then, oh my god, Kendrick, I swear to god,

911
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 4: one day this production house was like, listen, we want you,

912
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 4: we want to do a rewrite. Oh we fucking you

913
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 4: rewrite that motherfucker, and we fucking you ain't got but no,

914
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 4: I do.

915
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 5: It's and maybe this is where I know we get

916
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 5: into like the gender war topic of it all and

917
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 5: how men women are different, but you may actually be.

918
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 5: Maybe that's like a chemical thing with men, because like

919
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 5: back in the day when I was dealing with athletes,

920
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 5: oh playoffs, I got no dick, they were spoken rings.

921
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: They want, they want there to stop, they.

922
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 4: Need, they need their legs to work. But have you

923
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 4: ever had sex? And try a few weeks ago, shout

924
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 4: out to trip house.

925
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: Coming and.

926
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Speaker 3: I know.

927
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,959
Speaker 5: You know what Kendrick did say, you ain't never being young,

928
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 5: So nigga, you might just be talking.

929
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Speaker 1: From an old man. I am, I am.

930
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Speaker 6: I got herniated this that let the jacket do look

931
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 6: see Manicus is new and trendy.

932
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Speaker 3: Yours look like vintage.

933
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Speaker 1: It is.

934
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is a lot of dick. Can

935
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 3: we talk? Can I ask you as much as and

936
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 3: I guess there's.

937
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Speaker 4: What happened the headline, Oh no, no, no, Well I wanted

938
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 4: to go from that to actually asking both of you,

939
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 4: especially because this is what y'all do. Are there any

940
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 4: laws that have been passed that actually do stop or

941
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 4: hinder a man from having autonomy of his decisions with

942
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 4: his body?

943
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 5: Like I'm curious to know, like knowing that this was passed,

944
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 5: but also just to get an uprise, but also knowing

945
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 5: Roe v. Wade was like like was reversed, knowing that

946
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 5: it's kind of easy right now for them to say

947
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 5: women can't do this, women can't do that. Is there

948
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 5: any law that exists that does limit a man's decision

949
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 5: with what he does?

950
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 7: I honestly don't know, and because but what I do

951
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 7: know is that we have been trying to track and

952
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 7: find where people are trying to flip.

953
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 3: The script in some of it, some of these ways.

954
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 7: But What is also very real about the different state houses,

955
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 7: because a lot of these things are happening at the

956
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 7: state left, at the state line right. What's true about

957
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 7: these state houses is that they are still very much

958
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 7: overwhelmingly ran by white men, right, And so to move

959
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 7: a bill that would put any pressure on.

960
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 3: Them is damn near impossible.

961
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 7: In the state of Georgia, we're trying to move like

962
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 7: progressive maternal health, and that's still impossible, right. Like it's

963
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 7: still an uphill battle to even get midwives credentialing, like

964
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 7: our community based midwives together, Like, I mean, all of

965
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 7: those fights are still hard. So to think about trying

966
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 7: to do something that we know is going to like

967
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 7: put them on the defense, it's damn near impossible to

968
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 7: think about because the legislatures are not set up that

969
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 7: way and most of our most impacted states right.

970
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 5: Now, I ain't gonna hold you. I signed this bill.

971
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 5: I want it past Kiddrick, would you would bother you

972
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 5: at all?

973
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 3: Oh?

974
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: So here's my thing.

975
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't encourage any more incarceration, anymore policings.

976
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 6: I don't I don't encourage anybody to encourage bounty hunters

977
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 6: to do anything. I would not I don't want to

978
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 6: give the state any more power than it has to

979
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 6: do the damage that it does. So I don't believe

980
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 6: you believe in police. I don't believe in prison. Like

981
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 6: to be real, I think all that, But you.

982
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 3: Don't believe in any prisons police.

983
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: I am abolitionists.

984
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 6: Oh wow, I think that you know there there's not

985
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 6: accountability in it. If there was an accountability in this

986
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 6: legal system, then somebody would have been held accountable for slavery.

987
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: We can't, I believe, don't want to make prison.

988
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, so you you trust the racist ass Let me

989
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 6: tell you, I don't trust anybody.

990
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. But but to me, it's no, no.

991
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: What you're saying is that you're likerus.

992
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 6: You trust the death, which means who's killing people and

993
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 6: who's making that choice.

994
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: Who's making that choice.

995
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 6: So I'm not saying I'm not saying, I'm not saying

996
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 6: I'm not a non violent person, right, Okay, So let

997
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 6: me make it clear. I don't trust white supremacist institutions

998
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 6: to have the responsibility to do anything and to have

999
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 6: the yes or no over anybody's life. And I believe

1000
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 6: that these state government and the federal government is very

1001
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 6: much a system steeped in white delusion and violence and

1002
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 6: created by white supremacists people white people who were I

1003
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 6: don't like saying supremacists because that power, it makes them

1004
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 6: feel supreme or like that we think that they're supreme

1005
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 6: when we don't. We know that they don't, they're not,

1006
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 6: and we know that it's delusion.

1007
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: It was Sonya and Nate Taylor white delusion.

1008
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 6: And so you know when when I'm thinking about that bill,

1009
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 6: it seems more like satire. It seemed like an Onion

1010
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 6: article where they trying to say, like, you know what

1011
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 6: if we criminalize men the same way that we add

1012
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 6: you know, a violent or harmful consequence to women for

1013
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 6: a choice that they should have.

1014
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 3: You know how, actually if you just not as much

1015
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 3: as satire, but.

1016
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 5: Y'all to get an uprise and have these conversations at

1017
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 5: if you flip the script, because so many people can

1018
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 5: look into like the Bible for reasons and all these

1019
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 5: other reasons and just how women have been perceived throughout history, right,

1020
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 5: but to actually say this is a bill I want pass.

1021
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 3: What it does is it creates the conversation like these.

1022
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 6: That's why I think is good you know, I think

1023
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 6: it's it's good to I don't necessarily I'm not saying

1024
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 6: that I don't know the Democrat. I don't know who's

1025
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 6: who's doing. I don't know their intention and who they're

1026
00:48:58,840 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 6: connected to and who.

1027
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 7: They're because these types of things, if you're trying to

1028
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 7: insert some type of cultural intervention as I like to

1029
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 7: call them in the work that I do, but or satire,

1030
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 7: whatever it may be, then you have to be connected

1031
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 7: to the people, right, and so we don't.

1032
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know if this Democrat either, So we.

1033
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 7: Don't know if, like, if they're connected to community, have

1034
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 7: they talked to people about this?

1035
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 3: Because if you're going to like create some funding paro, like,

1036
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 3: we just don't know.

1037
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 7: So if you're if you're if you're trying to put

1038
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 7: something in the community to like cause some level of disruption,

1039
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 7: then what are you doing to ensure that when you

1040
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 7: cause a disruption, that you're creating some level of safety

1041
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 7: around those that are gonna inevitably the one inevitably, inevitably

1042
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 7: be the ones who will be impacted the most. Because

1043
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 7: that's what's going to happen in this type of bill.

1044
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 7: It's not going to be the white supremacists or white delusionists, right,

1045
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 7: that we are going.

1046
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 3: To get caught up in this.

1047
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 7: Potentially it will be our black brothers, it will be

1048
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 7: queer and trans people, it will be those people that

1049
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 7: they are going to try to demonize more it doesn't

1050
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 7: work in our favor.

1051
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 6: Always going to use it against this, And I do

1052
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 6: think that, you know, I agree with you that I

1053
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 6: think it's useful. I do in conversation to say, hey,

1054
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 6: you know, this is the impact that it's having on women.

1055
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 6: This is the impact it's having specifically on black women.

1056
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 6: This is the disproportionate or whatever however you want to

1057
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 6: frame that around the truth, right, But you know, if

1058
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 6: you have the same accountability, And I don't want to

1059
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 6: call it accountability because it's not really it's just a threat.

1060
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 6: It's violence, it's it's harm, you know, it's it's in

1061
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 6: it's not proportionate to what is happening, right, It's making

1062
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 6: something a crime. I don't like using these big words

1063
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 6: like criminalization. It's making something a crime. It's not a crime.

1064
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying to have a hard Yeah,

1065
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,479
Speaker 6: well I was talking about abortion, but but yeah, but absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1066
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 6: if I get hard, you know, and I come. I

1067
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 6: mean I would have got I would have got arrested yesterday.

1068
00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 6: But you know, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, so you know.

1069
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,319
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Speaker 5: Can I ask you a question with what you're doing

1090
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 5: with having these conversations with the organizations, with making headway,

1091
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 5: how important is it for men to also be in

1092
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 5: these conversations, for them to join these groups, for them

1093
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 5: to be marching like I know.

1094
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 3: As women.

1095
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, I do feel like our voices are still stunted

1096
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 5: in so many areas. I mean, from us being vocalist

1097
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 5: for sexual liberation, were immediately shut down because men are like, well,

1098
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 5: nobody cares about you holes. As soon as holds have

1099
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 5: a goddamn opinion, we don't give a fuck. How important

1100
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Speaker 5: is going to Oh no, they when we went on

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Speaker 5: the breakfast club, just are the way we want to

1102
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 5: be ethically non monogamous. The voices from men were so

1103
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 5: loud and their views on us, How you're gonna be honest?

1104
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 3: You thought it was a lot of women too. Yeah,

1105
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 3: I think women.

1106
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 5: We could talk about inequitably being paid in the workplace.

1107
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 5: We can talk about people not wanting us to live

1108
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 5: or be sexual being But if.

1109
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 4: Many were doing what we were doing on the breakfast

1110
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 4: club that day, talking about being healthy, being an ethical,

1111
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 4: non monogamous relationship, enjoying, sharing sexual story.

1112
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 3: How they're demonizing NEO right now?

1113
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 4: They're not demonizing KOFE though, yes they are. No, I

1114
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 4: don't see that. I don't gonna tell you yes, Kofe

1115
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 4: was able to answer talk about his life in an

1116
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,240
Speaker 4: eloquent way. When Neo's sitting there kissing three bitches posting

1117
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 4: it for content, It's different when you're For example, the

1118
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 4: threat pole I was in worshiped us, talked about us

1119
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 4: like we were goddesses. Was excited to share what we

1120
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 4: were doing in our lives and having a different type

1121
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 4: of respect for us, something I even talk about in

1122
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 4: the book.

1123
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 3: I feel like we dropping a book too much. I

1124
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 3: don't we got something to say. Noel's bar a dual

1125
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 3: man effects on sexual exploration. You get it.

1126
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 4: Now, make sure you support your independent black owned bookstores

1127
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 4: by purchasing that. I feel like I'm going to press

1128
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 4: relation and so Noah. So we were out to eat

1129
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 4: and this dude was like, yeah, I see you. You got

1130
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 4: two bitches, and he was like what. Nigga starts blacking

1131
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 4: and was like, yo, I really don't like that. I'm

1132
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 4: showing affection at the same time, and Nigga's just looking

1133
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 4: at me like I paid for some bitches on with

1134
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 4: two hoes, Like this is not my reality. And I

1135
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 4: don't think you have a lot of those men. I

1136
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,479
Speaker 4: don't know if Neo's that guy. I don't think Neo

1137
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 4: is presenting himself as that guy. I think a lot

1138
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 4: of the ways that his relationship seeing it doesn't even

1139
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 4: seem like all women are together all the time, Like

1140
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 4: I get it's your dating rich nigga, But to me,

1141
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 4: I'm not seeing the same cadence as Kofe had and

1142
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 4: people that have the language about ethical nominogamy as what

1143
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 4: Neo's doing.

1144
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 3: Not that I give a shit hope it is. I

1145
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 3: guess this is my question to.

1146
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 5: Ben back to, like men being a part of the

1147
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 5: speaker and a part of these voices, Kendrick, when you're

1148
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 5: around your homeboys, when you're in spaces where whether you're

1149
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 5: playing cards, whether y'all drinking, whether you're just hanging out,

1150
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 5: are there ever any conversations about abortions? Are there conversations

1151
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 5: about at the goal non monogamy? Like are these actual

1152
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 5: conversations happening with men that you know?

1153
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 3: And it's and I ask if there are men.

1154
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 5: That you know, because it's visible that you are out

1155
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 5: here and that you're fighting for the rights.

1156
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 3: I want to know how hard it is.

1157
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 5: To bring just the people that you know into what

1158
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 5: you're what you're fighting for.

1159
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 1: So shout out to Kofe. What's up? Man? I know,

1160
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: I love you, brother. I don't know. I ain't know

1161
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: nothing about the conversation, but I don't know what. Yeah,

1162
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm so, I don't know what. Yeah.

1163
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 6: But but as far as me so, I have and

1164
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 6: we have an organization called Build Power Build not bald,

1165
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 6: not not both, but building, you know, we build and

1166
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 6: ship up. And in one of our programs that are

1167
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 6: in compartner to heal, it's just a song is called

1168
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 6: Black Pleasure and it's centered around Adrian Murray Brown's you

1169
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 6: know access you know, pleasure activism and those types of

1170
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 6: conversations where we understand, like you were talking about earlier,

1171
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 6: that pleasure is tied to in this country, especially race, economy, right,

1172
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 6: economic status, and it makes it seem like the ultra wealthy,

1173
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,919
Speaker 6: like you know, the Musks and the and the all

1174
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 6: these other abusive and evil fools. Billionaires, multi billionaires are

1175
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 6: the ones that can afford and deserve access to pleasure

1176
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 6: as if they work so much harder than people in

1177
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 6: factories and shit, right, and that you did a vacation

1178
00:56:54,040 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 6: or traveling or whatever it is, that pleasurable life is

1179
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 6: is unaffordable, and it's something that needed to be bought

1180
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 6: and it has a monetary value to it. And so

1181
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 6: if you don't have big money, then you don't have

1182
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 6: big pleasure. And that's just not how it should be.

1183
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 6: Pleasure is part of health. And if like we're sitting

1184
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 6: here talking about abortion being the baseline of our rights

1185
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 6: and sexual liberation, we're just we're stuck on harm and

1186
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 6: how people are criminalizing folks. We can't ever get to pleasure,

1187
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 6: which is the place that we should be a healthiest

1188
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 6: right and living a pleasurable life, that's what we deserve.

1189
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 6: And black people specifically, even in the you think about

1190
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 6: black pleasure, you think about taboo, you think about blackness,

1191
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 6: you think about you know, how negative healthy, But how

1192
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 6: healthy is blackness? How deep is blackness? You know what

1193
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 6: I'm saying, How the darkest is good? You know what

1194
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 6: I'm saying. I love the night time too, you know,

1195
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 6: you know, And so we talk a lot about that.

1196
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 6: And even in my family, I've got I've got people

1197
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 6: in my family transitioning, questioning their genders. There's different racial

1198
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 6: makeups and they're trying to understand who they are and

1199
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 6: what they believe about it. And I also have like

1200
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 6: really harmful people in my family, you know, people who

1201
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 6: are you know, super homophobic, super republican.

1202
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: You know.

1203
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 6: I have all types of you know, points of view,

1204
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 6: and usually I'm the one that they come to to

1205
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 6: talk about the difficult conversations and yeah, and my homies.

1206
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: And I've been like that for a while.

1207
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 5: Do you find it easy to have these conversations with men,

1208
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 5: specifically men?

1209
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 6: And they don't want to have it for me? Men

1210
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 6: will come to me to have the conversation.

1211
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 4: Need more men, Nendricks right, Like, we have to create

1212
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 4: a safe spaces I have.

1213
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:58,479
Speaker 6: I'm talking to a lot of people right now, men

1214
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 6: who are considering their their partner, you know, is thinking

1215
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 6: about opening up their relationship. They're thinking about opening up

1216
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 6: a relationship. They don't want to open up the relationship.

1217
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 6: They do want, you know, whatever it is. And and

1218
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 6: it's been like a recurring thing because people's consciousness are

1219
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 6: really starting to focus, especially right now because everything is inflation,

1220
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 6: Everything is is so chaotic that we're starting to think about, Oh,

1221
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 6: I was on the I keep telling this story. I

1222
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 6: was on the I was on the stage with you

1223
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 6: and we said when when Dominique and all them backstage,

1224
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 6: and I said, Bill, power is about building we talk

1225
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 6: about building power around things that are most important. And

1226
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 6: everybody was like, and I was like, why why is

1227
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 6: that so profound? I'm like sitting there thinking like why

1228
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 6: is that? I thought I said some real ship before this,

1229
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 6: this the first story, and so I was like, we're

1230
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 6: building power, I mean, and we think we have two

1231
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 6: other programs around state violence and labor and mental health

1232
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 6: as well, but we're talking about what's most important, right,

1233
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 6: And I was wondering. I said it again because I

1234
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 6: got that reaction. I was like, we built power around

1235
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 6: things are the most important, and they're like, I think, no,

1236
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 6: it's because all of the systems that we have are

1237
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 6: built around things that are not important.

1238
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: They're all built around harmful shit.

1239
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 6: They're all built around it's so much easier to get

1240
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 6: unhealthy shit than it is to get healthy shit. You

1241
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, in economy around it should be

1242
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 6: built around that. We like, you know, I can need

1243
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 6: to take a bit, I need to eat, I need shelter,

1244
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 6: I need you know, those are the things that we

1245
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 6: should be building economy around.

1246
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,919
Speaker 1: So I think insects and sex literally.

1247
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 3: Sounds great, get us a little healthy, you know what

1248
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

1249
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 7: And I think for us, this is why this is

1250
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 7: important for us. You know, we do this reproductive justice work,

1251
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 7: and I know that might be a newer way of

1252
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 7: people hearing this work because a lot of people are

1253
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 7: productive health and rights and they think planned parenthood, they

1254
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 7: think of like you know these other organizations that have

1255
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 7: that have historically been white lead organizations, right which, no

1256
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 7: dis to them, they're doing their job.

1257
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 3: No this, but reproductive justice was created by black women.

1258
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 7: I love that in nineteen ninety four, y'all, So thirty

1259
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 7: years ago, black women were sitting at a table saying,

1260
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 7: how do we ensure that bodily Atonian human rights are

1261
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 7: at the forefront?

1262
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 3: Right?

1263
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 7: And so that does mean that we want to make

1264
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 7: sure that we have the human right to not have children,

1265
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 7: and we need to make sure abortion access is not

1266
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 7: just a federal right that only gave us a small

1267
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 7: portion of what we needed because access was not guaranteed,

1268
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 7: but that we have it to the fullest extent. How

1269
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 7: do we make sure that we can have the children

1270
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 7: that we want and the ways that we want?

1271
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 6: Right?

1272
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 7: Where are our midwives, where are our birth workers? Where

1273
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 7: are the people outside of.

1274
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 3: This Oh there you know. I was like children, wait a.

1275
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 7: Week, Yes, because I think most people think the only

1276
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 7: way you can have a baby is you go to

1277
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 7: the hospital and you have a baby.

1278
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 3: And that's not true. No, right, it's not having in

1279
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 3: your living room wherever you want. You know what I'm saying.

1280
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 3: You can have so many in Feenians about that girl.

1281
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 7: Oh I'm so excited to talk about it. But also,

1282
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 7: I mean, we are dying, We are dying.

1283
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 4: Actually want more douelas, just more requirements. My experience, what

1284
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 4: I've been hearing about duelas is that people that are

1285
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 4: citing to be at home and have complications that Duela

1286
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 4: is not as experienced.

1287
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 3: And we have a lot of people that.

1288
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 4: Are popping up from that spiritual realm of I'm going

1289
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 4: to do this bathroom work, crystals whatever. I really want

1290
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 4: more kids to be born at home. I think we

1291
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 4: just need a little more of a requirement.

1292
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 7: I agree, I think you got to really make training,

1293
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 7: but I think you need to think about where you're

1294
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 7: getting a doula from. Are you just getting a sister

1295
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 7: who is selling crystals at this owner, which there's no

1296
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 7: diss that maybe you're a dope ass doula, but are

1297
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 7: you actually going to people who have been trying ancient song?

1298
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 3: Doula Services is right here in New York City.

1299
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:50,479
Speaker 7: This is a black woman led organization, Chanelle Portie, who has.

1300
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 3: Been training duelists for years. There are so many.

1301
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 7: Different places right that we are actually training people.

1302
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 3: Absolutely got to look. No, no, not all duelers. But

1303
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 3: I will tell you this.

1304
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 7: So we have our national Let's Talk About Sex Conference,

1305
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 7: which is the largest sexual and reproductive justice conference.

1306
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 3: In the country.

1307
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 7: It is next year, come on, so y'all will be

1308
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 7: in the building. And last year Kendrick was there. We

1309
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 7: had some really dope folks and Phil Kim came through.

1310
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 7: It was dope we had, but we I do was not.

1311
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 7: Midwives were in the room. Georgia has has has had

1312
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 7: the longest standing grand midwives in the country. These are

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Speaker 7: midwives who've been catching babies for over forty plus years.

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Speaker 7: We exist in our communities. So I do think that

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Speaker 7: you need to be very clear about who you are

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Speaker 7: getting to take care of you and one of the

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Speaker 7: most precious, sacred moments of your life.

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Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, I feel like Erica could

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Speaker 4: talk to me because yeah, but yeah, I think but

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Speaker 4: she was trained.

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Speaker 7: By Shaphia Monroe, who is over the International Center for

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Speaker 7: Traditional child Birth Right, so she don't catch that baby,

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Speaker 7: so she's gonna do what she gotta do. Yeah, who

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Speaker 7: is a grand midwife.

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Speaker 6: So I think that there's like so when we were

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Speaker 6: talking about like mental health, state violence, and sex and

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Speaker 6: build power, it was it I thought of those as

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Speaker 6: the areas if you think about sex, politics and religion

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Speaker 6: that we're taught not to talk about, right, And they're

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Speaker 6: also the areas where we think of where we really

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Speaker 6: reveal our values. Right the most that's where you're intimate,

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Speaker 6: and you don't when you your vote is your personal

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Speaker 6: you know, belief, your so you don't talk about politics.

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Speaker 6: Sex is between whoever you're in the room, but then

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Speaker 6: it's supposed to be intimate space, so we don't talk

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Speaker 6: about that. And that's also where you show how you

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Speaker 6: really treat people when they're in their most vulnerable state.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 6: And then religion same thing, Right, Like when you think

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Speaker 6: about mental health and you're thinking about religion spirituality, that's

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Speaker 6: where you get your values right, and that's playing out

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Speaker 6: on a national level with this foolish Christian nationalism, whit.

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Speaker 7: Take us out every single day, and we don't we

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Speaker 7: don't want that to happen.

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Speaker 6: But I think if you have, if we have more

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Speaker 6: assists and support and community centered around those things around sex,

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Speaker 6: you know, then you would have more support for the

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Speaker 6: system the doulas that already there's their strong you know,

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Speaker 6: networks of doulas that already exist. And I don't necessarily

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Speaker 6: think it's much more about training as support community wide

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Speaker 6: for that, for the thought of that, you know, for

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Speaker 6: people's minds to be open.

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Speaker 7: To tell y'all, I this work that I do. I'm

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Speaker 7: in rooms with like civil rights leaders. I'm in rooms

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Speaker 7: with folks who are you know, working to abolish all

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Speaker 7: all the things. I'm in all these different rooms, and

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Speaker 7: in every and a lot of these rooms that I'm in,

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Speaker 7: it is still difficult for people to have the conversations

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Speaker 7: like this, Yeah, right.

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Speaker 3: And so we want to talk about voting rights, which

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Speaker 3: we have to.

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Speaker 7: We want to talk about the economics of a thing

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Speaker 7: because we have to, But what we are not talking

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Speaker 7: about is how bodily autonomy is something that runs through

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Speaker 7: all of these issues and we want to run away

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Speaker 7: from it. And so I get sometimes in those rooms

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Speaker 7: and it's like here comes the lesbian ass girl talking

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Speaker 7: about did and pusses again, and as you talk about abortion,

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Speaker 7: like I'm that person in the room which sometimes ostracizes me,

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Speaker 7: you know, from my community. But I'm committed to making

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Speaker 7: sure that if we are all fighting for black liberation,

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Speaker 7: which I think that that's what our civil rights leaders want.

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Speaker 7: I think that's what all of our folks working across

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Speaker 7: these different movements want. If we are trying to abolish

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Speaker 7: these systems of patriarchy and the white delusion and all

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Speaker 7: the things right, then we cannot do that without centering

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Speaker 7: bodily autonomy, sexual health, pleasure, sexual freedom, all of that,

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Speaker 7: because what we will do is will create a world.

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Speaker 7: But we can vote right, and we can have the

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Speaker 7: money that we desire, but we will still be locked

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Speaker 7: up in all of this trauma around our bodies and

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Speaker 7: all the things that we were taught or not taught,

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Speaker 7: or told or not told, and we would then recreate

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Speaker 7: the same thing that we just tried to break ourselves

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Speaker 7: away from. So if we don't know center that, we

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Speaker 7: have to center that. So if you were talking about voting,

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Speaker 7: if you're talking about civil rights, if you're talking about,

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Speaker 7: you know, human rights and all those different things and

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Speaker 7: climate any of that. You have to bring it back

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Speaker 7: to the center of bodily autonomy, being able to make

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Speaker 7: our own decisions about our bodies, our families, and our future.

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Speaker 3: And that's a may draw right there.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 3: That's it draw, Monica Kendrick. Yes, thank y'all forgot Dan

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Speaker 3: joining us. Thank you for I know that you'd have

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Speaker 3: took us to school.

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Speaker 6: you know my birthday coming up. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 6: I mean your birthday and it's about My birthday is

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Speaker 6: on International Women's Day, so it.

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Speaker 1: Is about.

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