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Speaker 1: This is a fun game.

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Speaker 2: Let me preach out, pick count unt, let me putch out.

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Speaker 3: You want thatfl experience, and this is the show for you.

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Speaker 2: Third Law with LaVar airy Ten as a defensive guy.

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Speaker 4: I'm just bringing the viewers into how grown men in

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Speaker 4: the locker room, Like I don't play with some dude.

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Speaker 2: That you disrespect them anyway, it didn't matter who it

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Speaker 1: You and Blaxico Burrut they.

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Speaker 2: Are the same person, the same exact quarterback.

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Speaker 1: It's a show with three.

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Speaker 3: I'm the best to ever do it on and off

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Speaker 3: the field. And now live from the Fox Sports Radio studios,

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Speaker 3: here's Silver Bowl champion Blaxico burres Man sitting in for

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Speaker 1: Here's Dan Fire.

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Speaker 4: It is that time of year, welcome in. Not only

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Speaker 4: is the start of training camp, but this is the

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Speaker 4: second annual Plaques and buyer reunion. On up on game.

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Speaker 4: Let's go. How you doing? Oh man?

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Speaker 2: Everything is great, man, It's a lovely Saturday morning man

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Speaker 2: almost coach. The purpose not not as good as California,

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Speaker 2: but uh, it's a good morning so far, so there's

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Speaker 2: a great start, man, and football is in the air.

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Speaker 2: I can smell the hot dogs in a Hamburger burning

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Speaker 4: All still a couple hours away for us here on

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Speaker 4: Is this the time of year that you love or

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Speaker 4: is this the time of year that you dread because

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Speaker 4: it's training camp? Because I was never a back to

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Speaker 4: I didn't want to go to class, didn't want to

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Speaker 4: do any of that. So I get the excitement of football.

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Speaker 4: But which is it for you? Love it or hate it?

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Speaker 4: As training campus here, you know what, it's a love

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Speaker 4: hate relationship. I really have to say that. I have

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Speaker 4: to say that it's fifty to fifty because when you

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Speaker 4: you know, everybody's expectations of themselves going into the season

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Speaker 4: to play for a World championship. But at the same time,

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Speaker 4: it's like schools around the corner. So I go back

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Speaker 4: to being a full time dad. My birthdays in a

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Speaker 2: Going to start. But also you know that you have

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Speaker 2: Now the practices seem like a little bit piece of cake.

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Speaker 4: Somebody being burned to clutch a big name in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: It is funny you talk about school though, do you

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Speaker 2: What the hell is teacher trip day? They're taking trips

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Speaker 4: kind of like NFL training camps are. Let's dive into that.

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Speaker 4: Your former team mentioned Tom Coughlin. Obviously, the New York

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Speaker 2: You know what, I completely understand it. I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 2: So I think with that decision being made, it gives

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what plaques is not off base because

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Speaker 2: being being the fourteen quarterback just like you said, and

436
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Speaker 2: that they're lower on wide receivers and sometimes he's throwing

437
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Speaker 2: to equipment guys and things things like that. The position

438
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Speaker 2: that he's in now, he's not going to get a

439
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Speaker 2: lot of reps. So he really has to go out

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Speaker 2: and produce, make good decisions, you know, be accurate with

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Speaker 2: the football, be on time, not turn it over because

442
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Speaker 2: his opportunities are going to be limited. And you know,

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Speaker 2: if I'm looking at Shador Sanders and Dylan Gabriel and

444
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Speaker 2: I'm looking at this quarterback room, the decision that they

445
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Speaker 2: have to make with cutting one of these four young men. Well,

446
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Speaker 2: obviously Joe's not young and he's just as old as

447
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Speaker 2: I am, but that's a different story. But I'm looking

448
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Speaker 2: at the Cleveland Browns quarterback room and It's probably going

449
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Speaker 2: to be one of the most difficult situations that I

450
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Speaker 2: think Andrew Berry and Stefanski and his staff has to

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Speaker 2: make it. Who's going to be Who are they going

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Speaker 2: to let it go? Because I don't believe that you

453
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Speaker 2: can afford to let go Dylan Gabriel because we really

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Speaker 2: don't know if he is what he's going to turn

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Speaker 2: out to be. I believe he's a great young talent.

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Speaker 2: He's going to be a good football player in this

457
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Speaker 2: league for a long time. It's just he's just going

458
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Speaker 2: to have to get into the right situation from you know,

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Speaker 2: off offensive standpoint and play to his skill set. And

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Speaker 2: I believe he's going to have a lot of success

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Speaker 2: from from first George Shandon's standpoint. I really believe that

462
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Speaker 2: he's a he's a good football player and he can

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Speaker 2: go basically anywhere and be productive. Is he going to

464
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Speaker 2: be a star quarterback in this league? We don't know that,

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Speaker 2: but we do know that you know in the next

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Speaker 2: few you know, three or four or five years that

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Speaker 2: you know he can be one of these, you know,

468
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Speaker 2: good young quarterbacks in this league. But if you look

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Speaker 2: at Joe Flacco on the other hand, obviously believe that

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Speaker 2: you have to keep Joe Flacco in this quarterback room

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Speaker 2: because he is really the only proven guy that you

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Speaker 2: can put out on the field and say, you know what,

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco gives this team an opportunity to win this

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Speaker 2: game today, So you have to keep him. But for

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Speaker 2: you look at Kenny Pickett. He's basically getting all the

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Speaker 2: reps with the Ones. But I don't think I don't

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Speaker 2: believe that he is the future for the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 2: as being a starting quarter the back of his franchise.

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Speaker 2: So I think when it's all, when the dust clears

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Speaker 2: and everything settles, I believe this quarterback room will will

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Speaker 2: will consist of Joe Flacco, Dylan Gabriel, and Shador Sanders,

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Speaker 2: depending on what happens in the preseason training camp, if

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Speaker 2: somebody gets injured, or whatever the case may be. But

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Speaker 2: just because Kenny Pickett is is getting all the reps

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Speaker 2: with the ones and training camp, that really doesn't mean anything.

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Speaker 2: But I think when it comes down to the business

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Speaker 2: side of making the decisions, I believe that Kenny Pickett

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Speaker 2: is going to be odd man outs.

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Speaker 4: It may not be. It may be surprising to hear

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Speaker 4: that it shouldn't be shocking. I think obviously with Flacco

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Speaker 4: you can you can deal with this workload no matter again,

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Speaker 4: if training gamps are easier now than they weren't twenty

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Speaker 4: years ago. But you don't have to give Flaco everything. Plus,

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Speaker 4: he was in your building two years ago, so he's

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Speaker 4: got some familiarity to it, and it was the Browns

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Speaker 4: on fault that he didn't come back last year and

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Speaker 4: be a member of that organization. I think there's a

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Speaker 4: decent chance Pleox that the Browns feature quarterback isn't even

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Speaker 4: on this roster right now. And I went one eighty

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Speaker 4: on an opinion that I had earlier this week. When

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Speaker 4: I heard Andrew Berry, he was kind of asked like,

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Speaker 4: is there a way that you could have four quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: on the roster? Wasn't wasn't a directed question to make

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Speaker 4: him really answer the question. So he kind of worked

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Speaker 4: around it, you know, said that you know there could

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Speaker 4: be a pathway or the question was is there a pathway?

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Speaker 4: And he said yes, absolutely. I just I don't see it.

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Speaker 4: I think your scenario makes a lot more sense. My

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Speaker 4: only issue is is it feels like Stefanski and Barry,

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Speaker 4: who were not excited when the Door Sanders pick was

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Speaker 4: made during the draft, like just the video shot of them,

512
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Speaker 4: and we're all saying, oh, this is a Jimmy Haslim pick,

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Speaker 4: this is this is an ownership move. This is their

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Speaker 4: way of putting an end to that to say, like,

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Speaker 4: all right, we got Kenny Pickett taking the ones. Now

516
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Speaker 4: Flacco's gonna get some Guess what as we as we

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Speaker 4: move along, we're gonna throw Dylan Gabriel in with some

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Speaker 4: first team reps like Shadour is the only one that didn't.

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Speaker 4: And Stefanski even said that in week two of camp

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Speaker 4: they'll have more of a more of a clear picture

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Speaker 4: of how they want to proceed with their quarterback snaps. Well,

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Speaker 4: right now that doesn't even include Shadoor Sanders. So it's

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Speaker 4: it's such as it's such a mess. But I feel

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Speaker 4: like Stefanski is kind of putting his foot down to

525
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Speaker 4: what they did in the draft, not burying Shador, but

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Speaker 4: not giving them any favors. And I thought earlier this

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Speaker 4: week Plaques that maybe Dylan Gabriel would have to completely

528
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Speaker 4: outperform Shador because of all the hype around Shador, but

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Speaker 4: that doesn't seem the case. It seems like Cleveland's kind

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Speaker 4: of squashing it right now and going to figure out

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Speaker 4: their own plan and maybe put Kenny Pickett on display

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Speaker 4: for any of the other thirty one teams that may

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Speaker 4: come into a quarterback dilemma. Yeah, you know, the uh.

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Speaker 2: You know, it does change doing training cap So I

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Speaker 2: have to agree with kind of fan skiing how the

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Speaker 2: quarterback reps go. You know, week one is different from

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Speaker 2: week two, So maybe get Dylan Gabriel will start the

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Speaker 2: practice off with the ones, and you know he'll get

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Speaker 2: the first seven to eight plays and first ten plays

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Speaker 2: in a twenty play drive, and then Shador Sander will

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Speaker 2: come in and get the other ten plays with the

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Speaker 2: first team. So it does change up as training camp

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Speaker 2: goes on. But I just, you know, I just believe.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that Andrew Barry can carry four quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: on a roster because you lose a roster spot that

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Speaker 2: you may need from a wide receiver room or special

547
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Speaker 2: teams or whatever the case may be. I think it'll

548
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Speaker 2: be the first team in NFL history to carry in

549
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Speaker 2: four quarterbacks on an NFL roster because you do need

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Speaker 2: that actra roster spot. But I just think moving forward,

551
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Speaker 2: they're going to have to find a way to get

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Speaker 2: all of these guys the equal amount of reps because

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Speaker 2: it's really hard to judge a young player when a

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Speaker 2: guy like you or Sanders is he's going on and

555
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Speaker 2: he's playing playing with the threes. A lot of the

556
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Speaker 2: threes in the NFL don't make the final routs, so

557
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Speaker 2: they don't make the cut, so they're basically playing against

558
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Speaker 2: guys who are in college again, so it's really hard

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Speaker 2: to judge. So I don't think until Dylan, Gabriel and

560
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Speaker 2: Shada Sanders get out there and be able to compete

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Speaker 2: with the starting defense and that that second there that

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Speaker 2: they have that they can really evaluate these young players

563
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Speaker 2: and say, you know what, we are going to keep

564
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Speaker 2: Dylan or should do or whatever the case may be,

565
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Speaker 2: because they gotta they will be able to evaluate them

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Speaker 2: with them playing against the starting defense.

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Speaker 4: Maybe that's the genius. Stefanski knows the equipment guys are

568
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Speaker 4: going to be there in the fall, so that's.

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Speaker 2: Why, well they not going over. They hope they're not

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Speaker 2: going anywhere.

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Speaker 4: East Flexico Urus, I'm dead Byer, I'm in for LeVar

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Speaker 4: Arrington and t J. Huschman Zada. On this episode of

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Speaker 4: Up On game. Let's head over to the news stask

574
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Speaker 4: guys at Glowing Crin giving the latest of what's happening

575
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Speaker 4: on this Saturday that we'll drive into what the heck

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Speaker 4: is going on with the NFLPA. What's going on? Isaac?

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Speaker 1: That's right?

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Speaker 7: No, a block days on this show, guys, absolutely, Oh

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Speaker 7: you know plaques. My kids have minimum days every Wednesday.

580
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Speaker 7: They have a minimum day once every week. Can you

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Speaker 7: believe that? Where was that when we were growing up?

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Speaker 4: What does a minimum day consist of?

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Speaker 2: ILove?

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Speaker 7: It means more work for us parents because they go

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Speaker 7: home early. I mean we might have had one minimum

586
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Speaker 7: day every three years when I was growing Oh, maybe

587
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Speaker 7: I'm exaggerating that a little bit. Yankees fans are hoping

588
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Speaker 7: that we're exaggerating the seriousness of the concern about superstar

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Speaker 7: Aaron Judge. He is not in the lineup for today's

590
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Speaker 7: game against the Philadelphia Phillies because of an elbow issue.

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Speaker 7: Here are the details from Yankees manager Aaron Boone a

592
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Speaker 7: short time ago.

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Speaker 8: Just last night, was really dealing with he couldn't really

594
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Speaker 8: throw a well from the outfield, so he got imaging today.

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Speaker 1: So we'll kind of wait on that.

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Speaker 8: It was more about throwing last night, like he couldn't

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Speaker 8: really get the ball in very well. So one them

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Speaker 8: down and get the imaging, get her hands around.

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Speaker 2: Just what exactly we're dealing with.

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Speaker 7: In the NFL, New York Jets quarterback Justin Fields took

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Speaker 7: part in individual and seven on seven drills today, just

602
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Speaker 7: two days after Fields sustained a dislocated toe on his

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Speaker 7: right foot. The Miami Dolphins reportedly signing veteran defensive back

604
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Speaker 7: Mike Hilton. Earlier today. The Dolphins signed cornerback Jack Jones,

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Speaker 7: this after cornerback Already Burns towards ACL in practice earlier

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Speaker 7: this week. Jones started sixteen games last season for the

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Speaker 7: Las Vegas Raiders. Dan and Plax back to.

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Speaker 4: You, thank you very much. Isaac hit him up at

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Speaker 4: Isaac Loewenkron. What is going on with the NFL Players Association? Plex?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's one thing after another. Lloyd Howell

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Speaker 4: is dirty, laundry is aired, JC Treder's outs now, teams

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Speaker 4: are diving in the ESPN reports the FEDS are investigating

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Speaker 4: the NFL Players Association.

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Speaker 2: What is going on with your union right now? Uh? Uh,

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Speaker 2: obviously it's in disarray. That's the best way you can

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Speaker 2: explain it.

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Speaker 4: They're having a bunch of minimum days right now.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you that much. Yes they are. Nobody's answered

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Speaker 2: the phone over there either or return an email. So

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Speaker 2: you know, best of luck to anybody who's trying to

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Speaker 2: get in contact with the nfl PA at this time.

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Speaker 2: But you know, a lot of things are just going on,

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Speaker 2: and uh, you know, obviously we know what happened with Lil'howell.

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Speaker 2: You know last week he resigned for you know, having

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Speaker 2: having a lot of fun down there in South Florida.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of seemed like but uh, Jac tried to

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Speaker 2: step in down I believe he just got tired of

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Speaker 2: ben a pin cushion, you know, people asking him all

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Speaker 2: the questions and covering for everybody and you know, trying

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Speaker 2: to you know, minimize everything that's going on and investigations

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Speaker 2: that are currently happening. So hopefully, you know, somebody can

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Speaker 2: get a whole on this thing, because the season has

633
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Speaker 2: basically already started and we as the players, need the

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Speaker 2: NFL Players Association to be there for us and for

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Speaker 2: right now, it's just you can't explain, you know, some

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Speaker 2: of the things that are going on. I just hope

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Speaker 2: they get it together soon. The VH one had best

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Speaker 2: week ever, NFLPA may have worst week ever. I know,

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Speaker 2: Chris Purfat or technical producer.

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Speaker 4: Are are you? I don't want to say loving this, Chris,

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Speaker 4: but this has got to just be it's one thing

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Speaker 4: after another.

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Speaker 9: I I am maybe because I covered some like union

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Speaker 9: stories when I was working in media around Michigan, but like,

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Speaker 9: these kind of things fascinate me. I know Treder has

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Speaker 9: been rightly criticized for a long time about just and

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Speaker 9: this is like, look, this is the weakest union in

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Speaker 9: sports next to the most powerful league. And the league

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Speaker 9: kind of reminded it of this because like, immediately we

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Speaker 9: have Treder and Lloyd Howill gone, and immediately, what do

651
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Speaker 9: the Raiders do? They cut Christian Wilkins and void money

652
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Speaker 9: that's supposed to be guaranteed, immediately filed to a grievance.

653
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Speaker 9: But you're doing this while the union is headless. I

654
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Speaker 9: think the league smells blood in the water and they

655
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Speaker 9: don't want the union back on their feet because at

656
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Speaker 9: some point this state of affairs just can't keep going

657
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Speaker 9: the way it is, like, you can't keep having the

658
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Speaker 9: union keep getting beat around the Bush every time there's

659
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Speaker 9: there's labor negotiations it but it really does feel like

660
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Speaker 9: the league is like going to try to take advantage

661
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Speaker 9: of this as long as they possibly can.

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Speaker 4: How in the world, why is it so weak plaques?

663
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Speaker 4: I mean this way, maybe it's hitting too close to home,

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Speaker 4: but is it? Is it the discrepancy from like the

665
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Speaker 4: best players to the to the guys who who who

666
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Speaker 4: maybe aren't on that level. Is it just the amount

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Speaker 4: of players that that are in the union?

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Speaker 2: Why is why? Why is there seem to be difficulty?

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Speaker 2: I just I just think is this overload? You know,

670
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Speaker 2: you have thirty two teams and we're talking about fifty

671
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Speaker 2: three man rosters and not only the current players, we're

672
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Speaker 2: talking about former players also from decades ago that they

673
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Speaker 2: have to kind of figure out and deal with with

674
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: the claims and benefits and all of these things. I

675
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Speaker 2: just really don't think that they can handle the amount

676
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Speaker 2: of things that they that they have to take care of,

677
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Speaker 2: especially you know now with you know, all these new

678
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Speaker 2: things that are going on with this new league is

679
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Speaker 2: basically what I call it, and trying to fix what

680
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Speaker 2: is currently wrong, trying to accommodate the current players with

681
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Speaker 2: put them in the best situations from a you know,

682
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Speaker 2: grievance standpoint, a safety standpoint, and now you're dealing with

683
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Speaker 2: you know, the former players, you know, wanting benefits and

684
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Speaker 2: kickbacks and you know, injuries and claims and all those things.

685
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Speaker 2: I just think it's just a mass just overhaul of

686
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 2: issues that they are dealing with, and they let it

687
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Speaker 2: get away from them, especially right now, especially with the

688
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Speaker 2: whole thing with the Christian watching things. That's not going

689
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Speaker 2: to fly on anybody's watch. I read, I read the

690
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 2: whole story for him. For them to release a man

691
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Speaker 2: with guaranteed money on his contract that is old to him,

692
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Speaker 2: I don't even know what they were thinking, to be

693
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Speaker 2: honest with you, because he's going to get his guaranteed

694
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Speaker 2: money regardless. And I don't even know why they will

695
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Speaker 2: make a decision to cut an injured player from what

696
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Speaker 2: I understand, that has guaranteed money in his contract that

697
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Speaker 2: is old to him, and they still made a decision

698
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Speaker 2: to release this young man anyway, which is which fathoms me.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand why they would do that.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. All I can tell you is this

701
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 4: because I don't know if it's if it's real or not.

702
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 4: But I've already seen this morning stuff about the leaks

703
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 4: coming out which would be beneficial to the Raiders to

704
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 4: be like, hey, there may have been more going on

705
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Speaker 4: behind the scenes. And so this is more that the

706
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 4: directionless NFLPA is going to have to fight because it

707
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 4: sure seems that some of this information that's coming out

708
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 4: would try to benefit the Raiders to aid their case

709
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Speaker 4: and explaining on why they did what they did with

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Speaker 4: Christian Wilkins. My final question on the topic of this

711
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 4: is to you about leadership. Does it have to be

712
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Speaker 4: a former player because that's where all signs go for

713
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Speaker 4: the next executive director? You know Genupshaw was the last

714
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Speaker 4: former player to head that role. Is that where do

715
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Speaker 4: you think that's where we're likely added for the next leadership.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe it has to be a former player.

717
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Speaker 2: It has to be somebody that's going to come in

718
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,479
Speaker 2: and do this job and do this job the right way.

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Speaker 2: I have trust, the players have to have trust in

720
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Speaker 2: him that he is going to go he or she

721
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: is going to go into the office every day and

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Speaker 2: the players are going to be the priority. That's all

723
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Speaker 2: the players want. They want to be taken care of

724
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Speaker 2: and they want to know that every morning they step

725
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: in that facility, will step on the field, that the

726
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: NFLPA and the Union has their back no matter what

727
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Speaker 2: the situation may entell. But it does not have to

728
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Speaker 2: be a former player. They're going to have to find

729
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Speaker 2: a way to get this PA back to when listen,

730
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Speaker 2: when Gene Upshaw was the was the director for the PA,

731
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Speaker 2: the Players Union was awesome. So we have to get

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Speaker 2: back to that model. Whatever it may be. God rest

733
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Speaker 2: his soul, but the NFL PA needs a leader. It

734
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Speaker 2: does not have to be a former player, just it

735
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Speaker 2: has to be somebody at the Players Trust.

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Speaker 4: He's Paxical Burroughs. I'm Dan Byer. He is the former player.

737
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Speaker 4: I'm still trying to figure out, like Isaac Lohncrown and

738
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Speaker 4: so many of us, sorry what our minimum days. Hit

739
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Speaker 4: him up at black Scull Burroughs. I actually can find

740
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Speaker 4: me at dan Byer on Fox. Have been a bunch

741
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 4: of headlines in the NFL this week, including a star

742
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Speaker 4: wide receiver that's going to be put on the shelf

743
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Speaker 4: for a little bet. We'll dive into that next here

744
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 4: and up on Game on Fox Sports Radio. It's up

745
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 4: on Game on Fox Sports Radio. He's Plexico Burris, super

746
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Speaker 4: Bowl Champ, NFL VET. I'm Dan Byer in for LaVar

747
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 4: Arrington and TJ huschman Zada. I know people are freaking out,

748
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 4: They're like, where's LeVar, Where's TJ? Let me back next week.

749
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Speaker 4: Plax and I do this once a year. It's our

750
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 4: second annual get together, so we hope he can hang

751
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 4: out and have some fun. That's all.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 4: A jilan on a Saturday. Bill Benzon is here. Executive

754
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 4: producer Chris Burffett or technical producer in Isaac Lowncron has

755
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 4: all the breaking news and headlines of the day at

756
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 4: the news desk. I figured it would be a great way.

757
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 4: It's training Cam to do some NFL wind sprints. Don't worry,

758
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 4: you can still sit in your chair. You don't have

759
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 4: to get up flex, no need to do. So let's

760
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 4: go through some of the stuff that we've had happening

761
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 4: in the NFL this week, kind of in rapid fire fashion.

762
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 4: Let's get the band going and do it in Fox

763
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 4: NFL style. We go yeah, yeah, doesn't that that gets

764
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Speaker 4: your week? Go? So the Vikings are saying, justin Jefferson's

765
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Speaker 4: going to be missing practices through the weekend. He'll be

766
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Speaker 4: reevaluated next week with a mild straight hamstring.

767
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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 4: How one of the NFL's best on the shelf early

769
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Speaker 4: on plaques. What's your takeaway from what's happening in the

770
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Speaker 4: Twin Cities.

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Speaker 2: Oh, man, it's kind of unfortunate. Man. I've had a

772
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: couple of hamstring injuries and they don't go away. Justin

773
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: Jefferson miss missed us significant time last year with the

774
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Speaker 2: same injury. You don't want you you don't want the

775
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Speaker 2: best wide receiver all of football to begin the season

776
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Speaker 2: with a straight hamstring because it's something that's gonna linger.

777
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Speaker 2: It's not going it's going to be there for the

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00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 2: rest of the season. And most importantly, you know, getting

779
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 2: getting getting back on the field and gathering a report

780
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 2: with JJ McCarthy because we still haven't seen him in

781
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: action yet. We want to be able to evaluate him

782
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: with the guys that he's going to be playing on

783
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Speaker 2: Sundays with. But not having JJ out there to start

784
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: the training camp and not being able to see how

785
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Speaker 2: him and JJ McCart off the is going to work together.

786
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Speaker 2: I believe it's going to set this offense back a

787
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Speaker 2: little bit. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to read too much into it, but

789
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Speaker 4: I just know it's not good news for the Minnesota

790
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Speaker 4: Vikings good news for the Bengals. Yeah, one of the

791
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 4: off season stories has not been taken care of. Shamar

792
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Speaker 4: Stewart signed. The first round pick gets a fully guaranteed contract.

793
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Speaker 4: Bengals get the language in the contract that they wanted.

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Speaker 4: Stuart ends up getting a little bit more of his

795
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Speaker 4: signing bonus earlier. It took a while, Plax, but Shamar Stewart,

796
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Speaker 4: the final first round pick, has finally signed. Yeah.

797
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Speaker 2: Yeah, a bizarre situation. I just don't I want to

798
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Speaker 2: know what prompted the Cincinnati Bengals to insert this language

799
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Speaker 2: and in his contract. Because he's a young man. He's

800
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: never been in trouble. He never had any issues in college.

801
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Speaker 2: But I don't know if somebody got in their ear

802
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: behind the scenes and said they were getting different reports

803
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Speaker 2: of what this young man is really like. But it

804
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: was an unfortunate situation in the beginning. But he's back

805
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 2: on the football field now this and that he Bengals

806
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: can really focus on the defense and try to get

807
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Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson back on his football field and get him signed.

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Speaker 4: Did you ever keep stats during training camp of what

809
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Speaker 4: you have done? Why would you ever do that? Bo

810
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 4: Benson is asking the same question.

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Speaker 1: This is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Bo, what's the deal with practice stats?

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Speaker 10: Well, it's something I think you're seeing more now that

814
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 10: there's a twenty four to seven news cycle. But Bears

815
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 10: fans have been panicking. Some radio hosts have been throwing

816
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 10: him away already because he threw two interceptions yesterday. But

817
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 10: the good news is that Adam Hadja, a guy who

818
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Speaker 10: covers the Bears, tweeted that Caleb had his best practice

819
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Speaker 10: of the training campus today. So everything's fine and no

820
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Speaker 10: one needs to wow, have any nuance or anything.

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Speaker 9: They feel like people do not understand the point of

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Speaker 9: these practices, pushing things to like didn't Yeah. I think

823
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Speaker 9: we mentioned earlier Aaron Rodgers during an interception early too,

824
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Speaker 9: and everyone panicking in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: I saw Friar move up his hands and somebody wrote,

826
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 4: like Aaron Rodgers dunking off passes again, dumping them off underneath?

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Speaker 9: Where is it on my board?

828
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Speaker 10: We we have to we have to go to the

829
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Speaker 10: man hold on here he is.

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Speaker 1: Talking about practice.

831
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Speaker 2: Oh, not a game, not not the game dead the

832
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Speaker 2: game and Daffle.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what I Doug the Browns brown helmet

834
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Speaker 4: they released this week. I can't get with the Packers throwback.

835
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Speaker 4: I just nobody wants throwbacks from one hundred years ago.

836
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Speaker 4: NFL you need to pay attention. He's Flexiico Burus. I'm

837
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Speaker 4: Dan byer Up on game continues talking about the union

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Speaker 4: and tickets on