WEBVTT - Chargers Weekly: Ranking 2025 NFL Draft’s D-Line Class 0:00:01.040 --> 0:00:13.000 Late fifteen to ten touched up. Welcome to Chargers Weekly. 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:17.200 Getting rolling here on the morning of the day of 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:20.400 the Georgie's Chad Alexander press conferences a little bit later today, 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:23.040 so certainly gonna have some more to react to off 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:25.200 of that. But Julil, as you know, in draft season, 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:29.000 everybody holds their cards close to the best, So it's 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:30.920 not like they're gonna tell you what they're looking at 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:32.720 in the first second third, what they want to come 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:35.040 out of the draft with with their ten picks. But 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:39.040 certainly you could get an overview of the offseason thus far. 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:40.640 You know, we've had a little bit of that in 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:43.639 each of these pressers for each of these players, but 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:45.920 just to kind of talk about it as a collective 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:49.040 hole and how they were able to build this roster 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.480 out going into the draft. As we've said multiple times, 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:55.360 the number one goal is not to feel like you 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:58.920 have any needs, you know, dire needs. We've got to 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:03.200 take this position in this draft and that player has 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:05.319 got to be able to get on the field for 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:09.240 you know, either starter reps or rotation reps. That's the 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:11.360 one thing you're trying to avoid when you get in 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:13.119 and then get out a free agency and I feel 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:16.720 like they've accomplished that, you know, save maybe one position. 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:20.119 And I don't mean to slight you know, the the 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:23.320 Naikwon Jones and DeShawn hand signings, but I just I 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:25.440 think the way it's just something that coach Harbass said 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:27.360 about Poona when he said that one left the bruce. 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:30.200 That leads you to believe that they had a chance 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:32.640 to do it all over again, Poona would likely they 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:34.560 would have liked to have made that work and then 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:36.959 that would have settled that particular position. And I think 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:38.560 that's why you go through all these mock drafts and 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:43.800 you see so many people mocking defensive tackles to the Chargers, 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:46.640 because it does if there is one, it feels like 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:51.280 that's probably the one spot where you'd feel a little 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:54.720 bit better if you had a high floor prospect coming in. 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.400 Yeah, And I think it's it's really just based on 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:59.560 what Harball likes to do, right, we talk about it, 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:01.400 we get in a week out. It's just he likes 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:03.600 to build those trenches and you know, we have the 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:05.800 edge rushers, you know, to get pressure on the quarterback. 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:06.240 But a lot of. 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:08.880 People don't understand is you can have really really good 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:11.640 edg rushers. Right, they can rush up the field, but 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:14.040 if you don't have anybody to push the pocket, I'm 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:17.839 talking at an elite an elite rate, right, consistent rate 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:19.840 that all that quarterback is going to do is step 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:21.400 up in the pocket, set his feet. 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:22.200 The tackles are going. 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:25.560 To wash our premier pass rushers by and he's getting 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:27.120 them set up and he's gonna make the throw. So 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:29.440 I think what the charges were What I know what 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:32.440 the charges were missing last year was that that interior 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.280 push weekend and week out, first down, second down, and 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:38.880 third down. And what you saying that I can't disagree 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:42.360 with you. Now, will the dtack will be there that 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:46.720 they want? We don't know, right, but being in the building, 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.359 you know, just my experience, you know, coaching and being 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:50.320 in those offices. 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:53.079 Look, when you're they have a board. 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.280 It's free agency board, a draft board, and they got 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:57.760 their top ten at each position, and the draft is 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:00.160 it's a rat race, right, somebody goes they scratch them 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.000 all from this saying Okay, what's our next bes option? So, man, 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:06.239 next week's can be really really intriguing. I'm excited to 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:06.919 see what they do. 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:09.799 Here's what I'd love for you to get into as 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:12.400 as someone that played defensive back. You know, you always 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:16.040 hear about a connected defense and how to get that 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:18.880 connected defense that everybody wants in this league. And is 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.440 it pass rush that forces the quarterback to get the 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.840 ball out a little bit quicker? So maybe a lower 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:26.880 level secondary is able to make a little bit more 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:29.120 hay than they otherwise might normally be able to. Or 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:32.640 is it a dominant secondary that has incredible coverage that 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.560 gives the you know, the quarterback has to hold it 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:37.960 a second longer because you can't find anybody that's open. 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:41.600 So when you look at at sort of what I'm 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.160 trying to get to is Will Johnson didn't run his forty. 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:46.600 Everybody wanted him to run the forty. Everyone's talked about 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:48.440 the speed. They're not great. They just go back to 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:50.800 the twenty twenty three tape. It's a no brainer that 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:54.160 he's the number one corner in this in this draft. Obviously, 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:56.560 coach Harbaugh and Jesse men Aer won a national championship 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:59.600 with him. Again, Steve Clinkscale won a national championship with him. 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:01.680 But that's sort of a little bit of a buzz 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.400 right now, is you know he's talking about, oh, I'm 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:06.200 not quite ready, and then he does his pro day 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.240 so close to the draft that I just, you know, 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.240 not quite feeling right yet. And everyone's saying when you 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:14.240 look at him, it looks like maybe he's, you know, 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:17.200 a four or five guy, four five five guy like 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:19.040 kind of in that range, and that may be why 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:22.400 he's not running. So I bring it up because if 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:25.840 Will is there or and I just and even if 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.000 let's just expand it beyond that, let's shave. Let's say 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:31.159 Baron's there. Because he's a smaller guy, he's not going 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:34.039 to fit into every system. He would certainly fit into 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.600 two jesse Minner's system. I think, right, I play more 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.320 zone than anywhere, they play more quarters than anywhere. But 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:42.920 how would corner if that's the direction they go, if 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:46.560 it's Harrison, if it's if it's yeah, I think those 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:48.000 are probably the top three. 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.279 Yeah, it's not a heavy I was not a heavy 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:52.240 pet corner draft. 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:54.360 So if that's the ship, that's the choice. 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:56.400 Let's say one of those guys is there, Juliel kind 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.480 of how walk us through how that helps this defense 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:02.320 when everyone's just so focused on the trenches. But if 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:04.440 they feel like, hey, this is a number one corner 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.120 and that's a premium position and a premium player and 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:08.200 we're getting it at twenty two. 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:10.120 Yeah, I said a couple of weeks ago, I liked 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:11.719 Will and we didn't think that he'd be there. So 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:14.679 I will say that, you know, Harball, just with Junior 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:17.240 Colston last year. He likes his guys, right, he knows 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.920 his family, he recruited them, knows them from a pup 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.760 And you said it, so, how does the pass rush 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.320 and how does the coverage work together? Defensive coordinator in 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:29.039 twenty seventeen by the name of Gus Bradley would always 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:32.880 harp on defensive meetings, rush and cover work together. Right, 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:35.000 There's gonna be some games where the defensive linement are 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.640 on fire and we're struggling to cover. But like you said, 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:39.679 they're getting there before that quarterback can get that second 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:41.680 pat off, that second readoff and he's hit. 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:42.040 Right. 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:44.400 And there's been time where I was covering somebody, or 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:47.400 we watched film and Casey or another dB was covering 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:48.440 somebody and they were open. 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:49.040 Right. 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:53.840 May have been misscommunication, poor technique, but they didn't get 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.760 the ball out because of the pass rush got there, right, 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.520 And the same thing with us that sometimes we were 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:02.520 only rushing in our defensive lineman weren't getting home. 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:03.440 But what were we doing. 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:05.800 We're playing really really sticky coverage on the back end, 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:08.839 which allowed them to get, you know, us, an extra 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:11.040 pass move, run, an extra to stunt, run, an extra 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:13.160 t game with the tackle in the end, and then 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:14.680 it frees them up and it gives them just that 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.880 one second, right, game of inches one second, and then 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:18.599 we get that sack. 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:20.159 So rush and cover work together. 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:22.520 And when you're talking about just taking a corner, I 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:24.440 would say, listen, will I think he's a number one 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:27.560 corner in the draft. Everybody does when you're when you're 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.000 when you have tattle like him, there's no need to run, right, 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:31.800 because all you're gonna do is hurt your stock. Right, 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:34.800 everybody knows you turn on the tape. He's a football player, 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.640 he's a shutdown corner. He has a knack for the ball, 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:39.600 and I think drafting him to the charges will be 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.240 a really, really, really good asset for us right now. 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:46.479 Obviously the offseason acquisitions were more veterans, right, we don't 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:50.640 have a true like lockdown, shutdown number one corner like Hey, 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:52.400 this week you're following him. 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:54.760 This week, you're following him. We don't have that. 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:58.320 Right now with the Chargers overall as a group, a 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:00.600 really good group, really solid group, a lot of guys 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:04.159 that can play different positions inside, outside, So I'm not 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:06.640 mad at that pick. I even suggested a few weeks ago. 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.440 I just don't know if Will will be there. Baron, 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.240 he can play more of that. He's a smaller guy. 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:14.560 Like you said, he can play outside, but I kind 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:16.960 of see him more of like a nickelback, right. He 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.680 has a shorter statue, he can blitz. He can a 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.480 lot of teams like to do cos which has changed 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:25.280 the strength motion right, put the nickel to the field, 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.520 jet sweep motion across. He has no time to motion over, 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:30.200 so they bump him into the box. And now he's 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.520 in the run fit as a linebacker, and he has 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:34.920 that build you know, where he can fill those gaps. 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.640 He can see the guards pulling and get down and dirty. 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:41.160 Yeah, it's look, corners are wild, right, I mean you 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:44.320 got guys like Porter that are six three, one hundred 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:47.440 and ninety eight pounds and are running four three forties 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:49.760 out there, and then you know you look at Baron 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:53.120 and he's a five ten and a half maybe five 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:57.000 eleven guy, but he brings some thump. He's got great instincts. 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.680 We talked about Harriston and his four three forty. A 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:01.600 lot of people love Trey Amos and what he did 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:03.040 at On. I'm just kind of going through the list 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:05.640 that's right in front of me now, so it certainly 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:09.880 feels strong at the top, but just to build out 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:11.600 on the corner thing, right, I think I think they 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:13.760 can get a solid corner in the second round. As 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.040 I'm kind of looking at this list. You know, the 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:18.840 Thomas from Florida State. Obviously his DC is now the 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.440 safety's coach for the charges. I know there were some 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:25.240 current concerns about his his speed, but he's he's got 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:27.840 the measurables. I want to pull up what his forty was. 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:31.400 I don't think, yeah, he didn't run it, but he's 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:35.160 you know, six two with thirty almost thirty three inch arms. 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.200 I mean, he's just freaking mothro out. 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:39.840 And it's crazy you say that the NFL fell in love, 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.760 you know, like back in the day they were wanted short, quick, right, 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.280 you know, real agile cornerbacks. But when the Richard Sherman 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:49.520 era came along. They fell in Brian Browner. You remember 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.600 those guys. They were six four six y three long levers, 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:54.640 get their hands on you. They don't give you much 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:56.840 room at the line of scrimmage, right, And the NFL 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.559 fell in love with that kind of you know, mantra, right, 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:02.240 and that's what they continue to like, like big corners, 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:03.760 like guys who can go up and. 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:04.480 Attack the ball. 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:07.880 So every system is different, right, And it's like being 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:11.120 a baker, right, everybody has their own way of doing things, 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.280 and everybody has a different system and their own way 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.640 of doing things and what they like and attributes some guys. 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:19.480 So it's tough, man, it's it's it's tough to project 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:22.720 what's gonna happen. A lot of times you have an idea, 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:26.400 but like you said, next week will be very interesting. 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:27.000 Yeah. 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:30.640 The other development in the backfield is that the Jags are, 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:34.400 I mean the Miami Dolphins are shopping Jalen Ramsey and 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:38.440 you know, I know for I look, I do I know, No, 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:42.280 I'm assuming Derwin James has already made that call to Joe. 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:44.720 That's all day that, I mean all day. He has 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.640 been desperate to play with his friend Jalen Ramsey. 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:48.520 His team been doing that. 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:52.160 I was there forever figure out a way to get Jalen, 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.120 figure out a way to get Jalen. It's a big number. 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:55.760 He still had a solid He's still one of the 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:59.400 best corners in the league. But I bring it up 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:01.320 because could I see happening? And yeah, they have the money, 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:03.839 it's you know, it's a one year deal, and it's 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:06.720 an elite player that you add to an elite group. 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:10.000 But as someone that coached in training camp, you know, 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:13.200 these defensive backs with that, with that group, with coach 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:15.520 O'Leary and coach Clean Scale and coach Minter and all 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:19.880 those guys, Julil, is it do they need? Like does 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:23.480 this defense need an elite shut down corner or did 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.360 we kind of see sort of the magic of this 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:29.520 defense last year with guys like Tarheeb and Christian Fulton 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:33.160 and Cam Hart all playing at a high level, you know, 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.680 and even in the secondary at the safety position, with 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.280 you know, Elijah Molden turning into it and a really 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:43.480 impactful player after not necessarily being viewed as one in Tennessee, Like, 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.760 how would you does that make sense? Like how would Jones. Yeah, 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:50.120 talk about building this secondary. When you're committing resources, high 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.680 draft picks money, do you need to do that or 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.120 is there something about what coach Minter and these coaches 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:58.280 do that allow fifth round picks like Tarheeb and Cam 0:10:58.320 --> 0:10:59.640 Hart to really shine out there? 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.280 You know? And we touched on it, like, hey, this 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:05.880 with injuries and free agents and moving guys around and 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:10.800 shuffle them inside the outside, do they need I don't 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.840 think they need, right, But if they want to get 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:17.319 over the hump right that first round, that second round 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:21.000 and deep into the playoffs and the super Bowl, which 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:24.120 is everybody's goal, I think they do, right. 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:24.840 I think they do. 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:27.080 Because, like we know, there's a lot of injury and 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.280 it's one hundred percent injury rate sport, and we don't 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:32.240 know what next season holds as far as injuries. 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:33.000 Knock on wood. 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:35.200 But when you have a guy like Jalen Ramsey, when 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:37.559 you have a shut down corner, you can game plan. 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:40.280 You can focus on so much other stuff. Right. 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:43.000 You can say, hey, listen, Jalen, you're gonna play boundary. 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:44.880 You're going to take away the X. We can roll 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.280 coverage to the field, we can double, we can squat 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.319 the field. There's so much more you can do when 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:51.840 you have a shutdown corner versus, hey, right now we 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:54.520 have you know so and so they have a really 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.440 big threat at our receiver. We got a game plan 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:58.240 to have safety still over top pier. So now we're 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:00.560 losing leverage on one side. It's just there's a lot 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:02.800 of moving pieces that you have to do, which the 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.560 Chargers do really well as we've seen, right, they do 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:07.440 that really well. But if you have a shut down 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:10.600 corner like a Ramsey or like a Patrick's are ten 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.120 in the league. Those that makes a defensive coordinator to 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:16.440 sleep well that night because he's not game planning so 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.920 much like a big umbrella. Right, It's more so, hey, 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:22.240 you take care of their number one, and then we'll 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.280 shift and move coverages to different looks, different formations that 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:27.880 we've seen in tendencies that we've seen throughout the week 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:28.840 and throughout the season. 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:29.480 Yeah. 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.040 The thing with Ramsey too, for me, like I just 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.440 I pulled up the I forgot what the exact number was, 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.640 but you know, eight targets, seven catches, one hundred and 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:41.319 twenty two yards, a touchdown, six first downs along of 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:43.920 forty one that's Nico Collins in the wild card game, 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:49.640 like you have that Will Johnson, you know, the Jalen Ramsey, 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:51.680 and you can just say, hey man, we are not 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:52.920 afraid of anybody else. 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:54.760 Exactly, this is this is number one. 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:57.080 We got to keep an eye on CJ's legs, and 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.679 we got to keep an eye on Nico and outside 0:12:59.679 --> 0:12:59.920 of that. 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.720 And look, they did it. They did it for a half. 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:04.959 They did it for almost two and a half quarters, 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:06.800 you know, into the middle of the third and then 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:08.000 finally it's just like at. 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:09.920 Least players you've seen the breakthrough. 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:13.440 Yeah, elite players are elite players, and they they will 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:17.160 shine in the postseason. So I plant that here and 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.760 then over here, I'm going to contradict myself a little bit. 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:23.280 I think and talk about the division and what's the 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:26.160 easiest path to the playoffs. Winning your division, you're going 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.239 to play six games against the Raiders, against the Broncos, 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:33.199 and against the Chiefs, and Raiders no longer have DeVante Adams, 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.319 Kobe Myers. You know, they're talking about drafting Ashton Gent 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:38.120 maybe they draft t Mac. I don't know if there's 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.000 a number one receiver out there for them to put us. 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:41.920 So you don't have a number one receiver. There you'll 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:45.360 go the Broncos Courtland Sutton very good, very very good. 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:47.480 But I wouldn't call him a number one. 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:51.319 But he doesn't scare you. That's what I know where 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:54.080 he is. But it's not like you just game planning it. 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:55.960 It's not Nico Collins. It's you know. 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:59.000 And then you go to the Chiefs and you know, 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:01.360 I know he had a solid first season. I'm just 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.640 not crazy, like I just don't Xavier Worthy. He's got 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:06.920 the speed, but there's you know, if you had a 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:11.720 Jagger again exactly. So it's like, so how then I 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:13.400 then I try to figure out, Okay, how do you 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:17.240 when when you know that the Raiders are probably going 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:19.560 to be a pretty physical team. You know, Sean Payton 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.040 likes to be physical and at the line of scrimmage 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:23.920 and there it's all about him taking Omari and Hampton 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.360 and and trying to get a little more bully in 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:28.800 them as well. And it's more of just a short 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:31.680 passing sort of accuracy game with he and bow Nicks. 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:35.440 And you know, Kansas City is just I don't know 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:37.880 how to describe Kansas City, right, It's like it's just 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:38.480 it's whatever. 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.800 Patrick Mahomes wants to make it and it's always great. 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.200 So yeah, So that's what I'm getting at, Like, do 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.800 you draft is drafting a number one corner? Are you 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.360 drafting for the division or are you better off drafting 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:52.840 that defensive tackle, because we got to look at what 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:55.480 happens when Mahomes gets put under pressure immediately. You saw 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:57.000 it in the Super Bowl. You know, we've seen it 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.760 in multiple games. You know what happens to bon Nicks 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.000 if you getting his lap right away because he wants 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:03.800 to get that ball out so quickly. Well, now you're 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.600 speeding up that clock even more. And then obviously, in 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:10.840 the case of Vegas, I don't even know what they're 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:11.960 gonna look like, but you know what I mean. Like, 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:13.560 that's what I'm trying to figure out. If you're drafting 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:15.920 for the division, does it make sense to take use 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.600 a premium pick or use twenty plus million dollars on 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:23.000 Jalen Ramsey or Will Johnson or Johnny Barron or Hairston 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:23.880 or whoever it may be. 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.360 I'm a dB and I'm gonna go detackle. It's just 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:29.960 what it is. Right, you're talking about run. He's talking 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:32.480 about creating a new line of scrimmage. You're talking about 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:34.880 forcing teams to play behind the sticks. What is played 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.280 behind the sticks mean anytime that a team can get 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:40.120 three or four yards on first down, they're playing ahead 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:42.440 of the sticks. First down, if you can get a run, 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.080 tackle for loss. Now they're playing behind the sticks. It's 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:49.120 second and twelve, second and thirteen. That's defensive coordinator salivate 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:52.400 because now their playbook is at their disposal. Then you 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:56.880 talk about pass pass rush right, and then we talked 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:58.920 about Patrick Mahomes and how he likes to escape through 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.400 the B gaps. Right, there's an a gap right in 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:03.320 between the center and the guard. Then there's the B 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:05.840 gaps right, and he likes escaping the B gaps, make 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.640 plays with his feet, act like he's gonna run, toss 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:12.120 it downfield. Defensive tackle, a very elite defensive tackle takes 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.560 that away. And then once again it's Jesse Minner's scheme. 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:17.480 It's a lot of zone zone eyes. 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:17.840 Right. 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.320 Yeah, you're matching your body on a number, you're matching 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:23.000 your body on a guy, but you can your eyes 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:25.760 are on the quarterback. You're reading the quarterback. They call 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:27.880 it ninety nine nine ninety percent of the time your 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:28.840 eyes are on the quarterback. 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:32.160 You're leaning and moving to wherever he's looking. So listen. 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:36.120 I would love an elite, elite cornerback, but I think 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:39.960 as a need as somebody who would impact the game 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:42.000 detac You can never go wrong with the trenches. You 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:43.680 can never go wrong with a d tackle. You can 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:46.120 run so many fancy coverages behind. You can do smoke 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.720 and mirrors behind that defensive line with your linebackers and 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:51.840 your back seven, right, And I think that's the route 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.400 I would go if it's do or dying. 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.320 Yeah, and it's it's a pass rushing d tackle. You know, 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:01.160 it's not the Kenneth Grant can't rush the passer. But 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:04.840 that's not his specialty. He's you know, he's just a 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:08.480 massive human being. He moves with freakish athleticism for being 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:10.640 three hundred and thirty pounds. But at the same time, 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:14.680 you're talking more of your Derek Harmon's, you know, Walter 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.920 Nolan's are projected. You just kind of see the way 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:20.440 Walter explodes off the ball and gets into the backfield, 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:23.040 even though not necessarily the production numbers are there, but 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.320 certainly sort of on that front. And in the next round, 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:27.679 you're maybe talking about an no More Norman Lot out 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:29.560 of Tennessee. It was really just kind of a designated 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.720 pass rusher as a d tackle, which really is what 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:34.600 Morgan Fox was to some degree. 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.840 You know, you're right, So that's sort of. 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:40.199 What you know a lot of Like I said, so 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.480 many people have sort of So here's here's what I'm 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:44.280 getting at. Like I'm looking at a figure if we 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:47.159 just run like these mock draft simulators and we just 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:50.199 do defense only so many because I've said repeatedly, I 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.719