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Speaker 1: Late fifteen to ten touched up. Welcome to Chargers Weekly.

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Speaker 2: Getting rolling here on the morning of the day of

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Speaker 2: the Georgie's Chad Alexander press conferences a little bit later today,

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Speaker 2: so certainly gonna have some more to react to off

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Speaker 2: of that. But Julil, as you know, in draft season,

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Speaker 2: everybody holds their cards close to the best, So it's

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Speaker 2: not like they're gonna tell you what they're looking at

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Speaker 2: in the first second third, what they want to come

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Speaker 2: out of the draft with with their ten picks. But

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Speaker 2: certainly you could get an overview of the offseason thus far.

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Speaker 2: You know, we've had a little bit of that in

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Speaker 2: each of these pressers for each of these players, but

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Speaker 2: just to kind of talk about it as a collective

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Speaker 2: hole and how they were able to build this roster

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Speaker 2: out going into the draft. As we've said multiple times,

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Speaker 2: the number one goal is not to feel like you

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Speaker 2: have any needs, you know, dire needs. We've got to

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Speaker 2: take this position in this draft and that player has

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Speaker 2: got to be able to get on the field for

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Speaker 2: you know, either starter reps or rotation reps. That's the

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Speaker 2: one thing you're trying to avoid when you get in

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Speaker 2: and then get out a free agency and I feel

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Speaker 2: like they've accomplished that, you know, save maybe one position.

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Speaker 2: And I don't mean to slight you know, the the

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Speaker 2: Naikwon Jones and DeShawn hand signings, but I just I

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Speaker 2: think the way it's just something that coach Harbass said

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Speaker 2: about Poona when he said that one left the bruce.

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Speaker 2: That leads you to believe that they had a chance

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Speaker 2: to do it all over again, Poona would likely they

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Speaker 2: that would have settled that particular position. And I think

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Speaker 2: that's why you go through all these mock drafts and

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Speaker 2: you see so many people mocking defensive tackles to the Chargers,

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Speaker 2: because it does if there is one, it feels like

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Speaker 2: that's probably the one spot where you'd feel a little

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Speaker 2: bit better if you had a high floor prospect coming in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it's it's really just based on

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Speaker 3: what Harball likes to do, right, we talk about it,

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Speaker 3: we get in a week out. It's just he likes

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Speaker 3: edge rushers, you know, to get pressure on the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: But a lot of.

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Speaker 3: People don't understand is you can have really really good

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Speaker 3: edg rushers. Right, they can rush up the field, but

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Speaker 3: if you don't have anybody to push the pocket, I'm

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Speaker 3: talking at an elite an elite rate, right, consistent rate

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Speaker 3: that all that quarterback is going to do is step

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Speaker 4: The tackles are going.

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Speaker 3: To wash our premier pass rushers by and he's getting

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Speaker 3: them set up and he's gonna make the throw. So

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Speaker 3: I think what the charges were What I know what

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Speaker 3: the charges were missing last year was that that interior

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Speaker 3: push weekend and week out, first down, second down, and

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Speaker 3: third down. And what you saying that I can't disagree

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Speaker 3: with you. Now, will the dtack will be there that

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Speaker 3: they want? We don't know, right, but being in the building,

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Speaker 3: you know, just my experience, you know, coaching and being

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Speaker 4: Look, when you're they have a board.

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Speaker 3: It's free agency board, a draft board, and they got

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Speaker 3: their top ten at each position, and the draft is

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Speaker 3: it's a rat race, right, somebody goes they scratch them

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Speaker 3: next week's can be really really intriguing. I'm excited to

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Speaker 2: Here's what I'd love for you to get into as

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Speaker 2: as someone that played defensive back. You know, you always

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Speaker 2: hear about a connected defense and how to get that

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Speaker 2: connected defense that everybody wants in this league. And is

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Speaker 2: it pass rush that forces the quarterback to get the

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Speaker 2: So when you look at at sort of what I'm

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Speaker 2: Everybody wanted him to run the forty. Everyone's talked about

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three tape. It's a no brainer that

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Speaker 2: he's the number one corner in this in this draft. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: coach Harbaugh and Jesse men Aer won a national championship

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not a heavy I was not a heavy

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Speaker 1: So if that's the ship, that's the choice.

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Speaker 2: Let's say one of those guys is there, Juliel kind

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Speaker 2: of how walk us through how that helps this defense

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Speaker 2: we're getting it at twenty two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I said a couple of weeks ago, I liked

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Speaker 3: I will say that, you know, Harball, just with Junior

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Speaker 3: And you said it, so, how does the pass rush

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Speaker 3: twenty seventeen by the name of Gus Bradley would always

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Speaker 3: harp on defensive meetings, rush and cover work together. Right,

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Speaker 3: There's gonna be some games where the defensive linement are

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Speaker 3: they're getting there before that quarterback can get that second

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: And there's been time where I was covering somebody, or

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Speaker 3: May have been misscommunication, poor technique, but they didn't get

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Speaker 3: And the same thing with us that sometimes we were

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Speaker 4: But what were we doing.

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Speaker 3: We're playing really really sticky coverage on the back end,

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Speaker 4: So rush and cover work together.

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Speaker 3: And when you're talking about just taking a corner, I

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Speaker 3: would say, listen, will I think he's a number one

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Speaker 3: when you have tattle like him, there's no need to run, right,

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Speaker 3: everybody knows you turn on the tape. He's a football player,

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Speaker 3: Obviously the offseason acquisitions were more veterans, right, we don't

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Speaker 3: this week you're following him.

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Speaker 4: This week, you're following him. We don't have that.

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Speaker 3: Right now with the Chargers overall as a group, a

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Speaker 3: I just don't know if Will will be there. Baron,

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Speaker 3: he can play more of that. He's a smaller guy.

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Speaker 3: Like you said, he can play outside, but I kind

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Speaker 3: of see him more of like a nickelback, right. He

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Speaker 3: He can see the guards pulling and get down and dirty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's look, corners are wild, right, I mean you

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Speaker 2: We talked about Harriston and his four three forty. A

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Speaker 2: that's right in front of me now, so it certainly

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Speaker 2: feels strong at the top, but just to build out

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Speaker 2: on the corner thing, right, I think I think they

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of looking at this list. You know, the

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Speaker 2: Thomas from Florida State. Obviously his DC is now the

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Speaker 2: current concerns about his his speed, but he's he's got

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Speaker 2: the measurables. I want to pull up what his forty was.

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Speaker 2: I don't think, yeah, he didn't run it, but he's

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Speaker 2: you know, six two with thirty almost thirty three inch arms.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's just freaking mothro out.

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Speaker 3: And it's crazy you say that the NFL fell in love,

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Speaker 3: you know, like back in the day they were wanted short, quick, right,

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Speaker 4: Attack the ball.

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Speaker 3: So every system is different, right, And it's like being

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Speaker 3: a baker, right, everybody has their own way of doing things,

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Speaker 3: So it's tough, man, it's it's it's tough to project

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Speaker 3: what's gonna happen. A lot of times you have an idea,

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Speaker 3: but like you said, next week will be very interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The other development in the backfield is that the Jags are,

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Speaker 2: I mean the Miami Dolphins are shopping Jalen Ramsey and

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, this is this is number one.

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Speaker 2: We got to keep an eye on CJ's legs, and

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Speaker 1: And look, they did it. They did it for a half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, elite players are elite players, and they they will

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes wants to make it and it's always great.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, So that's what I'm getting at, Like, do

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Speaker 3: I'm a dB and I'm gonna go detackle. It's just

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Speaker 3: tackle for loss. Now they're playing behind the sticks. It's

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Speaker 3: that away. And then once again it's Jesse Minner's scheme.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're matching your body on a number, you're matching

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Speaker 4: You're leaning and moving to wherever he's looking. So listen.

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Speaker 3: I would love an elite, elite cornerback, but I think

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Speaker 3: I would go if it's do or dying.

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Speaker 2: you're maybe talking about an no More Norman Lot out

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Speaker 2: it's just he's so good. He's so big, athletic, strong,

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Speaker 2: He's too fast for linebackers, he's too big for defensive backs.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing you can do, just nothing you can do.

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Speaker 2: They got Derek Harmon ran forty second on this thing,

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Speaker 2: so out of way. Sorry, I'm all out of this thing.

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Speaker 2: So let me see if I can. So you have

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Speaker 1: The just go well, it's just people.

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Speaker 2: I think people pay so close attention to these sort

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Speaker 2: there are teams in the NFL. I know for a

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Speaker 2: fact there are teams in the NFL that have him

433
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Speaker 2: as a top twenty rated player. So if you feel like, oh,

434
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Speaker 2: I was looking at PFF and they have him at

435
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,600
Speaker 2: forty two, the Chargers really reached to get Derek Harmon

436
00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,840
Speaker 2: a No, he's just way up per their scouts and

437
00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,879
Speaker 2: their evaluation. He's got a grade that's considerably higher. So

438
00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 2: it makes these exercises, these mock draft sort of, these

439
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,960
Speaker 2: mock drafts a little bit weird compared to what.

440
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Speaker 3: That's a great point that you make, because a lot

441
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Speaker 3: of times in the draft you see a guy go

442
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Speaker 3: and then you'll see people like, but they chose him

443
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 3: at fifteen, like he had a third round grade or

444
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,399
Speaker 3: a second everybody's different, like I said, like some people,

445
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 3: everybody's scouting department, everybody's personnel department.

446
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 4: Rates guys at differently, and we would never know what

447
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 4: that is.

448
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 3: Right, So with the mock draft, like you said, it's

449
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 3: one or two guys' opinions, but those opinions really aren't valid.

450
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 3: Those opinions really aren't concrete. It's their job, it's what

451
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,159
Speaker 3: they're supposed to do. So, like you said, if you

452
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,119
Speaker 3: see a guy off the board that goes way earlier

453
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Speaker 3: than you would think they would go, or way earlier

454
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Speaker 3: than Mel Copper would think, or to Todd McShay would think,

455
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 3: it's because they've the front office has done their due

456
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 3: diligence and they feel like he fits their scheme really well.

457
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 3: They've done a background check, they love his personality, and

458
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,439
Speaker 3: they just or they love his upside.

459
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Speaker 1: Right.

460
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Speaker 3: So it's like, I just can't wait for next week

461
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Speaker 3: because once a year in and year out, you're going.

462
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Speaker 4: To have those three or four picks, even in the.

463
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Speaker 3: First round, first two round, where people are going to

464
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Speaker 3: be scratching their head, and then come a year or

465
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Speaker 3: two later, the statedum was full of his jerseys.

466
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, I would say, just look at

467
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 2: the last two years on both sides of it. You know,

468
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Speaker 2: last year's first round pick number five. Overall, there were

469
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Speaker 2: a number of people out there that were like, oh,

470
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Speaker 2: it's too tall.

471
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Speaker 1: I'm worried.

472
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 2: Man, he's tall, and I just I'm uncomfortable draft in

473
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,199
Speaker 2: a six foot eight tackle that high and you know,

474
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 2: and the Chargers were like, no, we're good with it,

475
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,919
Speaker 2: you know. But there were people that were like, oh,

476
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Speaker 2: I'd rather have Latham, he's a little more physical. I'd

477
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 2: rather have Fuaga, he's a little bit more of a

478
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Speaker 2: That was the conversation. I would trade down Joe, and

479
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 2: now look where we are, you know, Chargers were right.

480
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 2: Go back a year before that when they drafted Q,

481
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 2: and people were like, oh wow, that's that's early for Q.

482
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,640
Speaker 2: I had him, you know, behind Jordan Addison and Zay

483
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 2: Flowers and Dalton Kincaid and Sam Laport and all these guys.

484
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 2: And it's like, well, yeah, but whoever was in the

485
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,360
Speaker 2: front office, that was their evaluation. They evaluated Q that

486
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Speaker 2: they had him ahead of those guys or else they

487
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 2: would have taken them. And you know, still time for

488
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 2: him to prove that he can ultimately become better player,

489
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 2: a better player than any of those guys that were

490
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Speaker 2: taken behind him. But it works both ways. And that's

491
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 2: just you know, every board is different, and that's why

492
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 2: teams want to trade up, and that's why teams want

493
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 2: to trade back because of just how they have all

494
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 2: those things individually rated. So just again, omar Norman lot

495
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 2: he's a fun watch man. He is you want to

496
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 2: talk about. I don't know who the D line coaches

497
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,439
Speaker 2: at Tennessee, man, but those guys Julil they got just

498
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 2: watching James Pearce and Norman Lott, I have not seen

499
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 2: they're just get off. I haven't seen guys. Time the

500
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 2: snap so it's like watching Warren sap Man. It's just

501
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 2: like hike bang, Yeah, the tackle doesn't even know or

502
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 2: the guards don't even know what the hell's going on,

503
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 2: and Lot's already got a step on them. And same

504
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 2: thing with Pierce, like they time it up so well.

505
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,160
Speaker 2: But Norman Lot, he didn't play any rundowns, like none,

506
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 2: never out there.

507
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Speaker 1: It's all pass.

508
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 2: It's the weirdest and he is so he was so good,

509
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 2: so they have him at twenty seven. Meanwhile, Derek Harmon

510
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 2: led the nation in pressures quarterback pressures, is a defensive

511
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: tackle and helped guide Oregon do an undefeated record, and

512
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 2: they got him down at forty two. It's just so

513
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 2: it's just weird the way that it all works. So

514
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Speaker 2: if I were to I'm just going to do this exercise.

515
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 2: If I were to take a dtackle in the first round,

516
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 2: like we talked about, and I think, you know, why

517
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 2: not take either Harmon or Nolan, the two explosive pass

518
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: rush guys. Let's just I always go with Nolan. So

519
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 2: I'll just mix it up here and take Harmon and

520
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: then just see kind of how the rest of the

521
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Speaker 2: draft plays out. When we get to corner in that

522
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 2: second round. You know, you have some interesting players here.

523
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 2: You got Benjamin Morrison from Notre Dame who had the injury.

524
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Speaker 2: If he doesn't have the injury, he's probably going in

525
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 2: the first round. I talked about Darien Porter. Here's your tools,

526
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 2: you know your traits. Guy four to three, eleven foot broad,

527
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 2: you know, forty inch vertical and he's six foot three,

528
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 2: two hundred and he's played cornerback for So here's the

529
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 2: thing about Porter, this is an interesting one.

530
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: I'll get you.

531
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 2: I want to get your take on this. So last

532
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: year he plays twelve games, two hundred and three coverage

533
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: snaps and he allows zero touchdowns, three interceptions. That's his

534
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 2: year at Iowa State. It's his first year playing corner.

535
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: First year, so there's not a lot of reps. And

536
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 2: that's kind of what everybody's he's he was a wide receiver,

537
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: so he's Richard Sherman. He's he's Richard Sherman at Stanford

538
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 2: ninety percent tile in height and length. He is a

539
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 2: track athlete as well, but sixth year player, so he's

540
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Speaker 2: twenty four already.

541
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: And he's a.

542
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: Guy that blocked three punts too, by the way, So

543
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Speaker 2: he's he's a special team's freaking studs. So how like

544
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: where how do you reconcile all of that? Like, okay,

545
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 2: we don't have a lot of tape. He's playing in

546
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 2: the Big twelve, Like what do you like? What would

547
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: you do with a with a traits sort of good

548
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 2: production but just one year? How concerned would that make

549
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 2: you to use a premium pick kind of guy like that?

550
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 4: So I'm not when you say premium we talk round?

551
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 4: Are we talk second round?

552
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: Second round pick? You know?

553
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 2: Look, last year second rounder was Lad mccacky. Year before that,

554
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 2: second rounder was two Lee, So you know how important

555
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 2: those second round picks are.

556
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Speaker 3: Man, And it just it all depends on what cornerbacks

557
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 3: are left right, It's not a heavy cornerback draft. What

558
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 3: that being said, It's all about does the front office

559
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 3: feel like, does Jim Harbaugh feel like? Does Jesse Minner

560
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 3: feel like with that blank canvas that he's he has,

561
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 3: can they mold him into somebody they feel like he

562
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 3: can be Like, hey, okay, so if he had two

563
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 3: more years of film doing that, he'd be a top

564
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 3: ten pig.

565
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 4: Off of size measurable and his productivity. But he doesn't.

566
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 3: But he's a guy that you know what you draft

567
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 3: in the second round, Like you said, special teams, guys

568
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 3: need to give you productivity on special teams.

569
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 4: And then he's going to be a guy that he

570
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 4: can run with anybody.

571
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 3: He has ball skills and he can basically track down

572
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 3: any big time receiver, any fast receiver in the league.

573
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 3: Now he has to understand technique which will be raw, right,

574
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 3: technique fundamentals which will be raw, which they would have

575
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 3: to harp on.

576
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 4: In OTAs in training camp.

577
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 3: But look, if there's not many guys that look like

578
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 3: him and sound like him, right as as far as

579
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 3: what he brings to the physical and the athletics side,

580
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 3: if those top three corners that we spoke about are

581
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 3: gone by the second round, which they could be.

582
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: Right, I think by pick fifty three of the y, yeah,

583
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 1: which they could be.

584
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 3: He's just he's a he reminds me of kind of

585
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 3: like Tarik Wold in Seattle. Right, That's what popped up

586
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 3: in my head when you when you just mentioned all

587
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 3: those attributes about him.

588
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 4: So I don't think it's not reaching at all. They're

589
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 4: not reaching at all.

590
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 2: I think, look, I think it'd be it would probably

591
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 2: be viewed as a reach, you know, because of But

592
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: so I to me when I see like when I

593
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: see Walter Nolan and and I think about Walter Nolan

594
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: versus Derek Carmon, it's like, you know, so here's their

595
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 2: floors for those that are watching, you know, here's Derek

596
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: Carmon's floor, here's Walter Nolan's. Here's Walter Nolan's ceiling, here's

597
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: Derek Carmon's ceiling. And I think about, we're putting them

598
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: with Jesse min Er and Mike Elston. That's that's what

599
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: I was and that's the thing with right, So that's

600
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 2: what I'm thinking with Porter. It's like I'm putting him

601
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 2: with Cling Scale and Jesse Minner, And it's like if

602
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 2: you can take those tools and and just you know,

603
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 2: like because he showed it, but it's just a year,

604
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: and it's like, how, you know, how do you reconcile

605
00:27:55,240 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: one year of you know, of playing core man in

606
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 2: a possession that's all about feel and reps and because

607
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 2: you know, you've got to be able to see it

608
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: and if you can't see it, you're dead.

609
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, most so that's why I asked, what was the pick?

610
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 4: What was the round?

611
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 2: Right, So, yes, fifty five. So he's so like PFF

612
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: has him as their sixty fourth player. The Chargers have

613
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: picked fifty five.

614
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 3: I think the Chargers would, I mean, the fan base

615
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 3: would probably be very upset if we don't go running

616
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 3: back at that pick or tight end or take that pick.

617
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: Right.

618
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 4: So, yeah, don't hold me to it.

619
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 3: We'll re visiting about a year from now and be

620
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 3: talking about.

621
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 4: It if he was you know, a reach or not

622
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 4: for whoever grabs him.

623
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you still have Jacob Parrish. I like,

624
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: no Williams out of cal He's more of a third

625
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: round prospect, maybe even like late third round. And then,

626
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: like I said, you've got the Benjamin Morrison you know

627
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: who Again, had he not had the injury, would probably

628
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: be in the conversation as you know, kind of the

629
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: hip injuries, it's a hip surgery, would probably be in

630
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: the conversation as being in that top three with those

631
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: other guys, you know, beyond obviously Trivis Hunters, you know,

632
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: don't know what to call him, receiver corner when.

633
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,239
Speaker 4: We think about that one second, what do you think

634
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 4: about that?

635
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: I think it's great. Good for him, man play them,

636
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: play him and see how it goes. You know, that's

637
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: kind of the way I would approach it is I

638
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: didn't think there was any chance he was going to

639
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: be able to do it in Colorado. It's like, there's

640
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: no way he's going to do this, and he did,

641
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: and he did it at a very high level, you know.

642
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 4: And it looks very effortless.

643
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like why not you know, oh, you

644
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: can't do that in the NFL?

645
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: Well, just try, you know, just yeah, try.

646
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 3: It's or if you have him at wide receiver and

647
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: you only bring him in on third downs or past situations. Right,

648
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 3: something sprinkling earlier in his career because the playbooks are

649
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 3: totally different for those at home, Like that playbook looks

650
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 3: like those books stack behind me all together.

651
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: You know.

652
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 3: So I don't know about his learning curve, but it's

653
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 3: gonna definitely be a learning curve compared to what you know,

654
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: he had to consume at the college level on offense

655
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 3: and defense.

656
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

657
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: I mean, the one thing that I wouldn't do with

658
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 2: him is corner heavy only, Like I would absolutely lean

659
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 2: the other way just because you're on the you know,

660
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: you have a better chance to impact the game. I

661
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 2: think as a receiver especially on that team, you're immediately

662
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: their number one receiver and you're immediately someone that the

663
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 2: defensive courtner's like, oh man, this is a problem, yes sir,

664
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: so you know, and he's still a really good corner

665
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: as well. So like, I think that's but when I

666
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: hear people say, oh no, I'd rather just I'd make

667
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: him a corner and sprinkle him in on receiver stuff,

668
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I don't know if that makes us,

669
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: but whatever.

670
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, So anyway, that's job.

671
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: So let's do this. What did I did? I do

672
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: four rounds? Yeah, I did four rounds.

673
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 2: So here we go. We'll take the corner. Well, we'll

674
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: take our big swing, our home run swing on Darian

675
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: Porter in the sec and round and just give him

676
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: a clink and watch him do his magic. And then

677
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: when it comes to tight end and running back, here

678
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: we go. My guy's still there in the third round. Bang,

679
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: I can take my Harold Fannin, my one of my

680
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: favorite players, look like your former teammate gatesy out there

681
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: the way he plays and you just can't figure out

682
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: why this guy is getting open.

683
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: Why I don't know, Antonio Gates is just open.

684
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: That's what happens. It's how it works. At running back,

685
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: I still have let's see, who do we have available

686
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: at running back? We still have Travis's brother Trevor.

687
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: At the end.

688
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: That's a little little rich for him. Wow, running backs

689
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: really went off the board. Harvey's gone, Scataboo's gone, Dylan

690
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: Sampson's gone. Wow. Geez, all these quarterbacks, guys about Damian Martinez,

691
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: all like him out of Miami. Dj Giddens I like

692
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: out of Kansas State. Devin Neil's fun to watch.

693
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: Dude.

694
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: He wrecks the dudes. So I would be more apt

695
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: to take And let's see wide receiver. This is probably okay.

696
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: So Jalen Royal still there, Kyle Williams is still there,

697
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: So you're still in good shape for receiver too. So

698
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: I think I think that just you know, whichever whatever,

699
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: I'll just I'll pick. I'll take Kyle Williams here. Yeah,

700
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: I'll take Kyle Williams. And then we'll see if like

701
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: the gunner helms and those guys are are left in

702
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: the fourth round, and if we can get our tight

703
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: end there and let's see tight end we've got.

704
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: Oh wow, they really screwed me on this.

705
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: No gunner Helm Mitchell Evans is still there.

706
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 4: Back to the drawing board.

707
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: Money, Yeah, here we go. How about running back? What

708
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: do we got? Wow?

709
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: These guys flew off the board. That's what makes this

710
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 2: kind of fun.

711
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, well you're gonna go that's how

712
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: it goes.

713
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you assume you're just gonna be able to say, hey, oh,

714
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: by the way, J J.

715
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: Pegeese went to pick ahead of this.

716
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 2: That's a fun one, dude, if you want to kind

717
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: of dial up some some YouTube videos.

718
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: Piggies from Ole miss.

719
00:32:55,400 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: He he's a squatty defensive tackle and a good player,

720
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 2: really good player defensive tackle. But they line him up

721
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: as a direct snap guy. And wow, not only does

722
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: he take the direct snap and plow through the line,

723
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: he will take the direct snap and Ladani and Tomlinson it.

724
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: And he will leap over the line and you.

725
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: Just see these linebackers like no, yeah, that's a business

726
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: that's a business decision. It is hilarious to watch. I

727
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: don't know how many touched it, but I mean he

728
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: picked up. I mean every single one of these short

729
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: yardage direct snaps. I watch every single one.

730
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 4: I don't doubt it.

731
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: Every single one and they got him in the So

732
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: that's what's And like I was thinking about it, I

733
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: was like, man, the Geese is like a big time

734
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: Charger guy when they think of last year. I wish

735
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: I could remember the stat but I pointed out the

736
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: Chargers lined up with.

737
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: Four.

738
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: Let me think, if I have it right, I think

739
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: it was no, no, no, So you have all five offensive lineman. Yeah,

740
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: I think it was eight. The Chargers lined up with eight,

741
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 2: at least eight players who weighed at least two hundred

742
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 2: and sixty pounds. Let's just say it was the most

743
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 2: in the NFL. And it was like seventy five times.

744
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: The next team. I wish I could pull up this steat.

745
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: Darned I had it in one of the games. The

746
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: next team was like Baltimore with three because they had

747
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: Tucker Fisk who was two sixty five, Matt Lock in

748
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 2: the backfield, all five offensive linemen, and Will Disley. So

749
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: you had those eight players on the field that were

750
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: at least two hundred and sixty five pounds, Right, And

751
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: then I think about Pegez and it's like, cause you know,

752
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 2: for whatever it's worth, I get the sense that Herbert

753
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: doesn't really like sneaking the ball, you know. I just

754
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 2: I feel like that's, you know, not something that you

755
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 2: know some court like Phil didn't like doing it.

756
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: You know, Phil didn't. He did not let some players

757
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: like it. Some players don't.

758
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 3: So it's like, hey, those sneaks, those quarterbacks get teed

759
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 3: off on.

760
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: That's what I mean, because they know it's your chance.

761
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 4: I used to Oh, QB sneak. I love it.

762
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: That's what people don't realize, Like, what's this problem? Tell them?

763
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: I can't tell them, Julie, why don't they like it?

764
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 3: I mean, it's your chance to tee off from the

765
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 3: quarterback without getting a penalty, Like you can hit him

766
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 3: in the neck, back, shoulder, helmet decal. You're not getting

767
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 3: a penalty because you're fighting for an inch. So it's

768
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 3: like everything goes and the quarterbacks know that. They know that.

769
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, So to me, it's like, Hey, draft Pigee in

770
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: the fourth round, man, and just freaking tell Herbert you're

771
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: good dude. Hey the geese get in there, man, let's

772
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: go that.

773
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 4: I just that'd be a toush push in a half.

774
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: It's not even a toush push.

775
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 2: It's a get the hell out of my way here

776
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 2: because here comes my tush, you know, here comes my

777
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,479
Speaker 2: uh let me get what it's measurables are, here comes

778
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: my six two, three hundred and twenty five pound body.

779
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it is so fun to watch man,

780
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 2: and it just to me. It's like this guy is

781
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 2: made for Jim Harbaugh and his made for Greg Roman.

782
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: So there you go. That's so we're on the clock.

783
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: Here are four of the round I would have taken

784
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: pigise had had he been there. What the hell, I'll

785
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: take two defensive tackles in the first four. You are

786
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: u uh, there's boy.

787
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: Yeh boy. Let's go to what what did I take

788
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: the wide receiver? I think I did? Ye, yes, I did.

789
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: I took the wide receivers.

790
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at tight and let's see what's there anyway, whatever,

791
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: not important, that'll do it.

792
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: That's fun. And with Pogisee, everybody, that's your homework. Go

793
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: uh back.

794
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 4: Literally when we get off, I'm looking him up.

795
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:35,959
Speaker 1: I gotta check him.

796
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 2: Out off the YouTube and just just jj it's p

797
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 2: e g u e s pronounced peggise Uh p e

798
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: g u e s. Just whatever search on YouTube JJ

799
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: Pegisse direct snap Man have some fun. Jealous that you're

800
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: gonna see it. I keep going back and I'm like,

801
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: I can't get enough of this. It's so good. All right,

802
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: Well that again, Well I think that'll do it. Just

803
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 2: there's you know, we've kind of been talking in circles

804
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 2: a little bit because we're just waiting. Man, we're a

805
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 2: week away one. Yeah, and by the way, next week,

806
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: we'll do the pod after the draft. Obviously we're not

807
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: going to do it before, so we'll wait till the

808
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 2: end of the first round. We'll do it late, same

809
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: thing on Friday. We'll knock that out as well after

810
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: the Friday draft, so we'll get you to next week

811
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 2: to cover those first three rounds.

812
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: And it's fun.

813
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 2: Man, really enjoyed it, Julil everybody check out JJ Piggy's

814
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: that's a fun watch and uh yeah, and we'll be

815
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 2: back again next week.

816
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: Appreciate you, everybody, both out