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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two eighty three,

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Speaker 1: Episode two of Dirdy's Guys Say production of iHeart Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is the podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into the mary Go Share consciousness.

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Speaker 2: And it is Tuesday, April.

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Speaker 1: Eighteenth, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Four twenty minus two is what we called out here.

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Speaker 2: But also National Animal Crackers Day. Shout out the animal crackers.

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Speaker 2: Love that.

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Speaker 1: I remember that your animal crackers ready for four to

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Speaker 1: twenty the least saying food to munch on with that

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Speaker 1: cotton mouth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll just turn your mouth into dust. And then

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Speaker 2: also I just remember because we were talking about like

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Speaker 2: linement TikTok about like women who go after like electrical lignment.

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Speaker 2: It's also National Lineman Appreciation Day, not like O line

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Speaker 2: in football, like people who work on the power line. Wait,

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Speaker 2: women who go after them. This might have been when

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Speaker 2: I was out, but this is like a whole TikTok

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Speaker 2: thing about like people who are like, oh they're what

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Speaker 2: were they calling them? Beck, I know you, I know you,

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Speaker 2: I know you remember it was like they're on them

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Speaker 2: like line hose or basket holes or something, because like

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Speaker 2: open the basket and they're like they just want them

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Speaker 2: for their good pay and stuff like that about.

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Speaker 3: What I actually don't know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: You don't remember this like light on TikTok.

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Speaker 1: I remember them, Miles, Okay.

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Speaker 2: You remember that, Sam remembers.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm okay, okay, good, all right, as long as

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Speaker 1: Sam's with me.

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Speaker 2: But yes, anyway, all that to say, it's April eighteen.

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Speaker 2: All right, well my name is my birthday. Sorry I

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Speaker 2: had to chime in, like you went hard all weekend.

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Speaker 1: Oh my streaming birthday is April eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Were you just smoking like filterless reds like Marlboro Reds

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Speaker 2: or something.

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Speaker 1: You're streaming in a disco club.

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Speaker 2: That's okay, I get it. Hey, get in where you fit.

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Speaker 1: In most importantly, Happy birthday, super producer Becca Rams. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my name's Jack O'Brien aka Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled

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Speaker 1: to be joined as always buy my co.

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Speaker 2: Host, mister Miles. Come on now, it's just me big

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Speaker 2: Daddy Gray up in here. The Lord of Lancasham is here.

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Speaker 2: And also look I will I will see my akad

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Speaker 2: to just reinforced one more time. Happy birthday to the

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Speaker 2: Voiceless One aka Becca Ramos, shout out to you on

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Speaker 2: your birthday today.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it sounds cool to me. Actually, her

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Speaker 1: voice sounds great.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like it sounds like this, like the kind

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Speaker 2: of voice you thought was like an edgy girl from

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Speaker 2: high school. Like, there's this girl in my high school

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Speaker 2: smoked a ton of cigarettes and her voice is graspy,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, dude, her voice is like You's like,

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Speaker 2: she's cool. She's cool because she smokes so many cigarettes.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, shout out to you. Also, do your taxes

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Speaker 2: miles we are unless you're in La County, fam, because

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Speaker 2: we got to October because of the disaster.

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Speaker 1: Shout out, Yeah, yeah, shout out La County.

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Speaker 2: Shout out.

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Speaker 1: Sure to be joined in our third seat by one

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Speaker 1: of the hosts of Stuff Mom Never Told You, returning

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Speaker 1: one of our favorites, also now co author of the

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Speaker 1: upcoming Stuff Mom Never Told You book.

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Speaker 2: It's Samantha McMath. What's I am?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I'm How do you answer that question anymore?

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Speaker 3: I'm here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're doing it. You breathe right, That's that's

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Speaker 2: all we can ask. That's how how are your breaths?

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Speaker 2: How is your breathing?

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Speaker 3: If we're going to lower the short shallow a little

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Speaker 3: bit pace right now?

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Speaker 1: Okay, fine, shortened shallows.

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Speaker 2: I love how dark is your recording space.

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Speaker 3: So I made a whole space and I've got a

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Speaker 3: whole like sound blanket. Also, I just like to be

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Speaker 3: a floating head. I think that's fun. Guess when they're

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Speaker 3: very scared by the very washed out, washed out face

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Speaker 3: and the floating head.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just pitch darkness.

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Speaker 3: It makes for a good conversation.

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Speaker 2: What was the dude called in Pee Wee's Peelee's Playhouse

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Speaker 2: that was like the disembodied head in the box like

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Speaker 2: mecha laicha heineyh. Yeah, that's you're giving me that with

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Speaker 2: the floating head or.

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Speaker 3: I've always wanted to be that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm getting Bohemian Rhapsody video like the tight shots.

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing the death Row source album cover.

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Speaker 1: Also, this is important album cover. So Sam, you're you're

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta, I am.

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Speaker 2: What's good?

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Speaker 1: You have to pay your taxes today. Unlike the rest

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Speaker 1: of us on this podcast.

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Speaker 3: We're not cool and don't have an extension unless we

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Speaker 3: file for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well we got a little bit of rain in

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Speaker 2: that one was a legit.

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Speaker 3: I saw those videos.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't a little yeah yeah yeah. So but it

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Speaker 2: was wild too because when like when I was reading

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Speaker 2: a thing, it's like I was like, surely, like we're

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Speaker 2: not part of that, But I was like, no, La

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Speaker 2: County is one of the counties that has a disaster extension.

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Speaker 1: I guess there you go. All right, Sam, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: get to know you a little bit better in a moment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: First, we're gonna tell our listener to a couple of

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Speaker 1: things we're talking about today. Roger Stone is mining the

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Speaker 1: far right extremist message boards four ideas, and he thinks

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Speaker 1: that Donald Trump should pick Robert Kennedy Junior for his

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Speaker 1: running mate, just to do your own research ticket that

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Speaker 1: I don't know that people are nervous about. This be interesting.

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Speaker 1: He's already running for the Democratic president, Like, he's already

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Speaker 1: thrown his name in the hat as a presidential candidate

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Speaker 1: as a Democrat.

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Speaker 2: So ah, yes, yes, yes, good good.

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Speaker 1: We are going to talk about Tucker Carlson wanting to

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Speaker 1: invade Canada. He seems to like think this is either

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Speaker 1: a really funny bit or he really wants to because

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Speaker 1: now he has a whole documentary out about it. Harlan

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Speaker 1: prow has finally spoke and just yeah, he's just a

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Speaker 2: His side from the mega donor's mouth.

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Speaker 1: Hey he first of all, he's he's not he didn't inherit.

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Speaker 1: He's no nepo baby, he's a he made his own

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Speaker 1: money by taking over his dad's giant real estate company.

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Speaker 2: Oh here's here's the thing. I inherit did these bootstraps. Okay,

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Speaker 2: thank you, but I did lift myself that.

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Speaker 1: Needed pulling one. So we're gonna talk about it. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about the miles you've been on a real

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Speaker 1: AI kick. The AI music world has you.

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Speaker 2: It has you so much, it's it's so wild, it

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Speaker 2: has my fucking imagination doing loops and and I will

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Speaker 2: I will show you why because it's getting more and

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Speaker 2: more sophisticated.

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Speaker 1: We might talk about baby Shark, we might talk about tupperware,

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Speaker 1: all of this plenty more. But first, Sam, we like

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Speaker 1: to ask our guests, what is something from your search history?

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Speaker 3: All right, So y'all know I do an intersexual podcast, right,

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Speaker 3: So that means I do a lot of really sad things,

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Speaker 3: because everything is sad right now when it comes to

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Speaker 3: intersexual feminism. But We're also doing a whole episode about

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Speaker 3: k pop soon. So my last research was about the

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Speaker 3: dark side of K pop.

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Speaker 2: Oom like what like the like what happens I come

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Speaker 2: onto shows like this and then I've become the a

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Speaker 2: zach pessimistic asshole. I know, I know, I want to know.

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Speaker 2: I know how dark J pop, Japanese pop is like

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Speaker 2: in terms of the organizational structure of some of these

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Speaker 2: groups that to me look like plantations for like you know,

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Speaker 2: for artists or whatever. But is that I'm guessing it's

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Speaker 2: something similar where they're like, you are not you. You

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Speaker 2: are our cog that we tell to do what to do,

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Speaker 2: and if you complain, you will be shit canned and then.

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Speaker 3: Good luck exactly like I would think cancel culture is

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Speaker 3: actually a real thing for K pop, and I guess

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Speaker 3: jpop people when it's like audiences don't like you, you're

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Speaker 3: gone and you're gone forever. But yeah, essentially, there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of like sexual assault allegations within the within their

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Speaker 3: sexual abuse, a lot of abuse in general. Like there

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Speaker 3: was one video of a really big band who are

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Speaker 3: being beaten by their manager.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so there you go. Happy days kop.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, Okay, no, no, no, good to know, good to know.

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Speaker 2: When's that episode dropping?

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Speaker 3: H that's gonna be a while because now we're talking about,

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Speaker 3: you know, all the bad things about Christianity and white

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Speaker 3: white nationalism.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, we were just talking about how spooky

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Speaker 2: ghost stories are being used to gotcha the pro choice

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Speaker 2: people where they're like, Jesus Is Mary's tummy touched John

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Speaker 2: the Baptist and he jumped, so get the fuck out

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Speaker 2: of here to their mom belly.

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Speaker 3: That's a new story.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, yeah, you didn't know that. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I went to man. I went to Bible ass school

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Speaker 2: from K through twelve, and I never heard about baby

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Speaker 2: bumping between Mary and I think John the Baptist mother,

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Speaker 2: don't forget her name. I had heard that one.

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Speaker 1: That must be like a real favorite of the Catholics

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Speaker 1: that like he really yeah, like I just remember like

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Speaker 1: the phrasing of like and then he did, like he

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Speaker 1: leapt in her womb.

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Speaker 2: Right right, And that's why abortion is evil? Thank you?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they got a ton of last Women are

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Speaker 2: people though, And I mean, look, we could go to

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Speaker 2: Adam and Eve. I'm mean it's right there from the beginning.

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Speaker 3: Women are the worst.

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Speaker 1: You did a nice little floor routine with an amazing

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Speaker 1: dismount in her womb and then everybody was impressed, and yes.

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Speaker 2: That's what it reads and wow, yeah, gold medalist John

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Speaker 2: the Bath stuck the landing as it should. What is

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Speaker 2: something you think is overrated? Oh god?

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Speaker 3: Do you y'all ask me these questions and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know everything. One of the biggest things I

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Speaker 3: guess is right now, socializing being around people. So this

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Speaker 3: is a stretch for me, hanging out with more than

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Speaker 3: one person that's my host, this is co host. This

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Speaker 3: is a stretch.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: Not that you guys are overrated, no, sounds like that,

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Speaker 3: but just talking to people in general is tiresome.

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 1: Can we say that way?

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Speaker 2: What kind of what? What sort of interactions have you

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Speaker 2: been having that that fall into this category?

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Speaker 3: Well, people are actually having birthday parties and getting married.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't understand, so I'm having to go

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Speaker 3: to that. I don't want to do this.

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Speaker 2: It's a general merriment. You're like, what the fucking in general? Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was. The pandemic allowed me to go full curmudgeon

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Speaker 2: and now, yeah, you're slowly emerging. Yeah, I was.

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Speaker 3: Living my best life. I'm not gonna lie. Sorry, not

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Speaker 3: not the disease, but pandemic.

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Speaker 1: It's been isolated the well.

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Speaker 2: I mean for people like me who didn't know how

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Speaker 2: to say no to social invitations. That was like a

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Speaker 2: welcomed pause and things, because before I'd be like, fuck,

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Speaker 1: And Roger Stone has an idea, has a pitch to

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, he would have just said this

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Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson seems to be serious about wanting to invade Canada,

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Speaker 1: and like real hyped up on that being a thing

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Speaker 1: that he could kind of run with for a while,

439
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Speaker 1: and so he has adopted all of their talking points,

440
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Speaker 1: and he's claiming that the US has an obligation to

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Speaker 1: liberate Canada from tyranny. Intercuttings of Justin Trudeau with news

442
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Speaker 1: footage from the invasion of Iraq and Libya. So we're

443
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Speaker 1: gonna give We're gonna do a democracy delivery.

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Speaker 2: Is that's what he's asking for. Yeah, hey, destabilizing democracy

445
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Speaker 2: delivery right at your door, courtesy of the US Army.

446
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Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, okay go. Yeah. I didn't realize that

447
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Speaker 2: we were that it was meant to basically be like

448
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Speaker 2: Trudeau is this despotic person that must be overthrown. I

449
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Speaker 2: mean sure, you know, I think most leaders of Western

450
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Speaker 2: nations can probably be replaced. But I like that. I

451
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Speaker 2: like this take though, that it's like it's a it's

452
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Speaker 2: like a moral obligation.

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Speaker 1: It's a moral obligation, and citing like military disasters is interesting,

454
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Speaker 1: you know, just like we did with Iraq. That worked

455
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Speaker 1: out well, moving on, moving on, I don't think too

456
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Speaker 1: long about that. The movie's evidence for said tyranny mainly

457
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Speaker 1: seems to be interviews with anti vaxxers who defied lockdown

458
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Speaker 1: measures and white supremacists who were part of the Conboy

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Speaker 1: protest protest, by the way, which lasted three weeks before

460
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Speaker 1: the cops did a fucking thing about it, in case

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Speaker 1: anyone's confused about where the tyranny actually is and who

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Speaker 1: actually has rights in either country, right, yeah.

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Speaker 2: But you're right. Yeah, I'd love to see how do

464
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Speaker 2: those what do they do with pipeline protests up north there? Yeah,

465
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Speaker 2: not to handle the same kid gloves.

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Speaker 1: Give me three weeks see where they're going with this. Yeah,

467
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Speaker 1: but yeah, it just generally it also like one of

468
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Speaker 1: the fictions that has to be invented to make this

469
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Speaker 1: like version of events pos well is like Justin Trudeau

470
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Speaker 1: has to be this like really smooth and effective dictator,

471
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Speaker 1: like who's making things happen behind the scenes. It's just

472
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Speaker 1: like you know, our writer jam who submitted the stories

473
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Speaker 1: saying that like this is the coolest that Justin Trudeau

474
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Speaker 1: has ever looked because he's actually just kind of the

475
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Speaker 1: ineffectual nice guy. Tucker Carlson's like created these really cool

476
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Speaker 1: propaganda posters for him.

477
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like fucking Shepherd fairy made this thing. Yeah,

478
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Speaker 2: it's pretty like they're trying to do the Obama treatment

479
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Speaker 2: from like eight. But yeah, hey, look it just why

480
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Speaker 2: don't you call him like a Nepo baby or something? Right,

481
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Speaker 2: that's more to the heart of the matter. But I

482
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Speaker 2: guess maybe maybe better for Tucker Carlson not to say that,

483
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Speaker 2: because his whole thing's built on an empire. Frozen dinners.

484
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Speaker 2: Frozen dinners, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well, speaking of Nepo babies, we finally

486
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Speaker 1: got to hear from Harlan Crowe. He'd had just about

487
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Speaker 1: enough of all this slander, I mean, recently gave an

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Speaker 1: interview to was the Dallas Morning News.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wanted to set you wanted to

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Speaker 2: set the fucking record straight about him and his relationship

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Speaker 2: with Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. Okay, it's fucking it's nothing.

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Speaker 2: It's this whole piece is really it's really something like

493
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Speaker 2: he clearly has no idea like what it means to

494
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Speaker 2: be a billionaire and what influence comes along with that,

495
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Speaker 2: because's like, well, I don't understand, like I'm just hanging

496
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Speaker 2: out with people. When they ask about the pro public article,

497
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Speaker 2: he says, quote I think it's a political hit job.

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Speaker 2: He goes on this, I don't think the media really

499
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Speaker 2: cares much about Harlan crow and I think they're right.

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Speaker 2: They shouldn't care much about Harlan Crowe because I don't

501
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Speaker 2: want to be outed as someone who is highly influential

502
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Speaker 2: with my money. Okay, it's a hit job here. Then

503
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Speaker 2: he says, oh, you know, I think I think the

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Speaker 2: media and this Pro Publica group in particular funded by leftists,

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Speaker 2: has an agendaed a d stable court. Uh huh. What

506
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Speaker 2: they've done is not truthful, even though like in the

507
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Speaker 2: Pro Publica thing, they're like, we asked him for comment

508
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Speaker 2: on all this stuff, and he like was very dismissive

509
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Speaker 2: of everything and never disputed anything that we reported. So

510
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Speaker 2: where is the lack of truth there?

511
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Speaker 1: It's not truthful. It lacks integrity very specific words. So

512
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Speaker 1: what what specifically is he debating or what specifically it's.

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Speaker 2: Not so unclear, so unclear. It's like, oh, so you

514
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Speaker 2: didn't you don't go like you didn't fly him around

515
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Speaker 2: on your jet. He doesn't deny that you don't go

516
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Speaker 2: on trips together. He doesn't deny that you didn't buy

517
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Speaker 2: him like Abraham Lincoln and Frederick Douglas. Shit doesn't deny that.

518
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Speaker 2: Then he goes on about like when they ask about

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Speaker 2: what about your relationship with Clarence Thomas? And then this

520
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Speaker 2: is this is fucking great. He goes quote a lot

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Speaker 2: of people that have opinions about this seem to think

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Speaker 2: that there's something wrong with this friendship. You know, it's

523
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Speaker 2: possible that people are just really friends. It blows my

524
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Speaker 2: mind that people assume that because Clarence Thomas has friends,

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Speaker 2: that those friends have an angle. Then he goes on

526
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Speaker 2: to say Crow says that he is pro choice and

527
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Speaker 2: Thomas is not. And then he goes to say, quote,

528
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Speaker 2: do you think I would try to influence him about

529
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Speaker 2: my point of view on that matter? No, of course not.

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Speaker 2: That's insane. We have different points of view on that

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Speaker 2: and probably other issues. And then so I think that

532
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Speaker 2: article goes so what do they talk about? Quote? You know,

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Speaker 2: I can't talk to Clarence without him asking all about

534
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Speaker 2: the kids? What are they doing?

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Speaker 1: We have a dog named otis that Clarence particularly likes.

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Speaker 2: We talk about dogs a lot. Really, really, sir, you're

537
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Speaker 2: a fucking billionaire thirty times over and you're that all

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Speaker 2: You're like we talked about That sounds like when I

539
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Speaker 2: got caught smoking weed and my mom's asking what I'm

540
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Speaker 2: doing when I'm hanging out with my friends and I

541
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Speaker 2: can't say smoking weed. I'm like, you know, Chris just

542
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Speaker 2: got like a new dog, and I like dogs, So

543
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Speaker 2: we just talk about the dogs. Yeah, Like, no, you

544
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Speaker 2: smell like chronic full. What are you talking about? Okay?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, kids, dogs, the kids and the dogs.

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Speaker 5: That's like what you talk about with people you don't

547
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Speaker 5: know to kill time because you're like having to that.

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Speaker 2: That's that's amazing. Well, it's like you might as well

549
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Speaker 2: have said he might as well have said that. They

550
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Speaker 2: talk about the weather.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the weather sometimes because sometimes it's hot, and so

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about that. And that's really it, just what

553
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Speaker 1: the weather is.

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Speaker 2: Dogs. Let me see if there's anything else.

555
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Speaker 1: Oh, kids, did I mention kids? Did we talked about?

556
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Speaker 1: Because I have kids, So we talk about the kids.

557
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Speaker 2: Kids and how.

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Speaker 1: Many how many fingers they have on their hands, their hair.

559
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Speaker 1: You're never gonna believe this. Sometimes the kids play with

560
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Speaker 1: the dog and that'll that'll last us through the weekend,

561
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Speaker 1: talking about what they did with the dog.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know there's call records right around the

563
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Speaker 2: time that road decision leaked. We were just talking about

564
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Speaker 2: dogs then too. That's that's that's all that was going on. Sam,

565
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Speaker 2: what do you what's your feeling on the like the

566
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Speaker 2: revelations of finding out that Clarence Thomas says it's just

567
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Speaker 2: really good friends with these people.

568
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Speaker 3: Well about that, I don't know, but I will say

569
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Speaker 3: I am the person who, probably as a millionaire or billionaire,

570
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Speaker 3: would just have dogs and not anything else. So I

571
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Speaker 3: don't see that things so far fetched.

572
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Speaker 2: But would you also buy.

573
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Speaker 3: All I care about is my dog? So there's that

574
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Speaker 3: I don't actually care about people. And maybe that's where

575
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Speaker 3: that's just the bad.

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Speaker 1: Take I have. They do talk about the kids, It

577
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Speaker 1: sounds like you wouldn't be talking about the kids, right. Yes,

578
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Speaker 1: people make a big deal that he had a signed

579
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Speaker 1: copy of mind Koff, But Sam, you know this, They

580
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: ask you to sign so many of these things when

581
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Speaker 1: you're making writing a book, Like it's so easy to

582
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Speaker 1: get a signed copy like Hitler was just in his bunker. No,

583
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Speaker 1: just signing copy after copy because that's what the publisher demands.

584
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Speaker 3: You'd have to outbid other white supermass.

585
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Speaker 1: That's fine, they.

586
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Speaker 2: Were giving them out like all over you know, and

587
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Speaker 2: like occupy Poland and Germany. It was like when they

588
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: were giving out Frampton Comes Alive, you know, like the

589
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: probably is.

590
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Speaker 3: A copy in Texas, of several copies as in fact,

591
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Speaker 3: if anywhere I would be in Texas.

592
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, why not? Why not?

593
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Speaker 1: The detail in the book about the Bush family called

594
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Speaker 1: Family of Secrets, I think is what it's called, and

595
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Speaker 1: like the all their CIA connections, and just like offhandedly

596
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Speaker 1: they mentioned that there's like a rich guy in Dallas

597
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Speaker 1: who had the or somewhere in Texas, but he had

598
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Speaker 1: the window that that Oswald shot from when he killed Kennedy.

599
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Speaker 1: He had it removed and like put into his mansion

600
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Speaker 1: so that he would like the frame of the the

601
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Speaker 1: frame of the window. Yes, so that he was so

602
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Speaker 1: like as a you know, trophy of like this is

603
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Speaker 1: what happens to liberals when they come to Texas. And

604
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Speaker 1: it's just like thrown out there as like yeah, this

605
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: is so that's who this guy.

606
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Speaker 2: What do you do?

607
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Speaker 1: Oh?

608
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Speaker 2: I put a TV on the other side with Obama

609
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Speaker 2: on it and I just watched his speeches. Yeah, yeah,

610
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Speaker 2: for going on there. Uh, that's that's a really interesting

611
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: you realize, like that's so fucking like, I want the

612
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Speaker 2: fucking window that he was leaning out of.

613
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Speaker 1: Can't get me the gun, give me that window.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, immediately after the incident, before they even what this.

615
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Speaker 1: Ye, yeah, I think there was something with owning the building.

616
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Speaker 2: It tied in there.

617
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Speaker 1: I'll have to dig it up.

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Speaker 2: And I would love though too, that there's just some

619
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: dude grifting for these people. They're just so horny for this.

620
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Speaker 2: And you know, I got the fucking window frame that

621
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Speaker 2: Oswald shot Kennedy through. They're like what, They're like yeah,

622
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Speaker 2: and it's like a rusty just a rusty like metal

623
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Speaker 2: square and you're like, yeah, man, I mean obviously there

624
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: was a building facade around that, but that is actually

625
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Speaker 2: what was That was actually the frame of that window.

626
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Speaker 2: And then you're like, I'll take it. How much? Three million? Great?

627
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Speaker 2: He also goes on to another thing too, because we

628
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Speaker 2: learned about how this guy bought Clarence Thomas's mother's house

629
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Speaker 2: and she lives there rent free, and he did renovations

630
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Speaker 2: to it, and he's like he's like really dismissive about this,

631
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Speaker 2: like it was like a car port and some other stuff.

632
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Speaker 2: Maybe if the commode was messed up, I may have

633
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Speaker 2: changed that. A lot of people have said, like they

634
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: did the math and based on the rent, that maybe

635
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: she could have paid like him, her living there rent

636
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: free maybe saved her about one hundred fifty five thousand dollars.

637
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: Sure that was bought. But when they asked about what

638
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: the fuck is the deal? Why would you buy his house?

639
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: He said, quote, I assumed his mother owned the home.

640
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 2: His life story is an amazing American life story, born

641
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: into deep poverty, father gone mother, the lady whom we're

642
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: talking about, really not able to do a lot and

643
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: help raise her two sons, ultimately raised by his grandparents

644
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: who were literate growing up in jim Crow, Georgia. So

645
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Speaker 2: I approached him with the idea that I might purchase

646
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Speaker 2: that home for the purpose that in due course it

647
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: could be the boyhood home of a great American, like

648
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: a museum for clare Thomas. Here's the thing I from

649
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Speaker 2: what I remember on my appearance on Behind the Bastards

650
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Speaker 2: the Clarence Thomas episodes, Uh check that podcast out with

651
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Speaker 2: Robert Evans, that he went to go live with his grandparents, Specifically,

652
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Speaker 2: his grandfather raised him. So he never lived like this

653
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: home that she lives in in Savannah, Georgia to mind recollection,

654
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: he never lived in and like, as he even said,

655
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: ultimately raised by his grandfriends. Like but yeah, like I

656
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: think it'd be a great his boyhood home for this

657
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: rights regressor. I don't know, I think was his his

658
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 2: idea there.

659
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: And again, these gifts all happened to overlap, just happened

660
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: to overlap with a period of unprecedented good fortune for billionaires,

661
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: like when it comes to a Supreme Court rules, yeah,

662
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: one of the best fortune. Just yeah, fortune on fortune.

663
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: And then like then we also find out that finally though,

664
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,719
Speaker 1: he did have to set the record straight because we

665
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: talked about the Atlantic piece where Graham would like spent

666
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: a moment to justify Crow's Nazi nick knacks by saying

667
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: that he was unburdening himself with his inherit of his

668
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: inherited wealth. Well, Crow really wants everyone to know he

669
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: is self made. He also used this interview to set

670
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: that record straight. He said when he took over Crow

671
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: Holdings in nineteen ninety, the real estate industry and the

672
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: banking system were in crisis. He says, quote, our company

673
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: was also in distressed, our economic value had deteriorate.

674
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: It. I spent about five years doing workouts. We negotiated

675
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: with a large number of financial institutions over a long

676
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 2: period of time doing all this, and we tried to

677
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: do it as honorably as we could. And I believe

678
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 2: we did it very honorably. After it was all over,

679
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I just got so suspicious.

680
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: The second on the back of my neck just stood

681
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: up when you read that answer. And so I made

682
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: had millions of dollars and we were honorable about it.

683
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 2: We did it honorably. I think it's like, oh my god.

684
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: After it was did you kill.

685
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 3: He literally said, we tried, Like that's that in itself,

686
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 3: But you're telling me that you didn't.

687
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 2: You just admitted to Oh yeah. When when you hear

688
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 2: billionaires say like honorably so many times, that's that's definitely

689
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 2: a billionaire speak for it. Yeah, so maybe we fucked

690
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: some people get over it. Yes, like is essentially like.

691
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: But he has these big words integrity, truthful, what the

692
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: what they did reporting on the actual facts of what

693
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: I do is not truthful. It lacks integrity. What I

694
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: do when I make billions of dollars for my company

695
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: is honorable, and I try to do it at least

696
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: I think another word. Nope, I'm going to go back

697
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: to honorable.

698
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: I believe I did it honorably. Like that's also such

699
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 2: deposition language, like I believe I attempted to do it honorably. Right,

700
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, okay, okay, somebody who knows who's been

701
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 2: cross examined before. But yeah, I mean if pro public

702
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: pro Publica's got good reporters there, I'm sure that was

703
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: like ding ding ding day, Okay, we know what we're investigating. Next, yeah, next,

704
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 2: Crow Holdings, What the fuck is going on on in

705
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: the early eighties? Holy yeah, because now they they have

706
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: about thirty billion dollars in assets like under their management

707
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 2: and it's and it's now profitable. He really wanted to

708
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 2: make sure they knew that too, it's profitable. So like

709
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: he's also has like this moneymaker's ego that like wrapped

710
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 2: up into it. And I think that's what's really interesting too,

711
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 2: is in the end, he's like really trying to paint himself,

712
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: Like he literally is like he's like I just want

713
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: to go to Arby's or Schlotski's, you know, like those

714
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: are my simple things I like to do, and you know,

715
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: he's like, I don't even know what a mega donor means.

716
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 2: He says that at one point, and he tries to

717
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 2: act like taking jets, taking private jets to DC to

718
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: speak with conservative think tanks and their leaders is just

719
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: very normal, and like, I don't.

720
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: Know why are my friends We talk about my kids

721
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: and how they're going to make sure that they are

722
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: billionaires also.

723
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, and that there's enough aber supply for my

724
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 2: kids to exploit as well when they become billionaires. Do

725
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: you see what I'm You see what I'm getting at

726
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: the Nazi thing though, He says that his mom was

727
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: on a ship that the Nazis sunk and then she

728
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 2: like survived or something, and he's like, you think i'd

729
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: be You think i'd like some people that tried to

730
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 2: kill my mom. No, So so check fucking mate. Interesting.

731
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you've heard the last of Harlan Crowe,

732
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: despite the fact that he's like, I don't think people

733
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: want to hear about Harlan Crowe, but let me.

734
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: Tell you why I'm not a Nepple baby. You're like, Okay,

735
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 2: he just said.

736
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: That actually makes you really sound fascinating and like you're

737
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: trying to cover something up. So yeah, if you didn't

738
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: want people to pay attention to you, you should have

739
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: changed your name from the best villain bad guy name

740
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: of all time.

741
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know what. Maybe he just he should

742
00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 2: just do it, Like the how the Koch brothers are

743
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: they fucking talk to anybody? They're like, yeah, whatever, fucking

744
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 2: just deal with my billions, fucking up this place. Deal

745
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 2: with that. I'm not gonna give you a comment, but yeah,

746
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, it'll it'll be I'm curious what the

747
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: next sort of round of comments are out of this,

748
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 2: because now we found like we're hearing that like Clarence

749
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 2: Thomas also has like weird income from like a defunct

750
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 2: real estate company that is not reported either, And you're like,

751
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: what how much fucking.

752
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 3: He didn't make any money? That's what he said. That's

753
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 3: his excuses make any money?

754
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is it? I don't even know, man, that's

755
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: what they told me to say. Okay, look, we met

756
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: on a private jet when he offered to fly me

757
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 2: back when Clarence Thomas was speaking at a think tank

758
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 2: that I happened to bankroll. Okay, there's nothing weird there.

759
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: Then there is one question where they asked you, like,

760
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 2: do you think like you'd be like friends if he

761
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 2: was like a Supreme Court justice, And he was like,

762
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. He's like, it's hard to.

763
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: Know if he wasn't a Supreme Court justice, would be friends.

764
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: I mean, hmm, Supreme cool justice. Yeah, are there people

765
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: like that who aren't Supreme Court?

766
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 2: All my friends are Supreme Court justice actually Alito, Scalia,

767
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: Corsic and lawyer Kavanaugh, the boys, you know, even yeah,

768
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 2: Amy Cony Barrett factors into that too. But yeah, it

769
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: is a the whole thing is again feels like part

770
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: of this whole like we've like we've been saying this

771
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: is the year of the like wealthy, like just shrugging

772
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 2: and like saying, I don't know what's your fucking problem.

773
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 2: This is normal.

774
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: It's actually weird that you're looking into my finances.

775
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's actually kind of creepy. Actually you like, wait,

776
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: so hold on, let me get this straight. Like you're

777
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: into like looking into dudes finances. Okay, that's fucking weird.

778
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 2: All right, whatever, I'm not gonna call it yellow journalism,

779
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: but I will what he did in this piece.

780
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break, we'll come back,

781
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: we'll talk AI music, and we're back. And Miles, you've

782
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: been playing some AI tracks for us, some mashups.

783
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even know what to call them. But

784
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: so AI, this AI AI generated music collabs are they've

785
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 2: reached like new heights. Okay, Like over the weekend, I

786
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 2: listened to more than a few AI generated collabs or

787
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: covers or whatever that never were I think a lot

788
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 2: of people heard the the Rihanna cover of Beyonce's Cuffet

789
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: and it's like pretty on point. There is this one

790
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: of Kurt Cobain doing black Hole Sun by Soundgarden, which

791
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: I was like, wait, wait what It doesn't sound great,

792
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 2: but you kind of get an idea of where it's headed.

793
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: And I just want to play a little bit of

794
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,959
Speaker 2: it because it is a little bit freaky to think of, like, wait,

795
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: this is Kurt Cobain doing Soundgarden, but this is black

796
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: Holes one in in dispos in this.

797
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 4: Jazus no news.

798
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 2: So I was like, okay that, like they got the

799
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 2: timber right, It's still the quality of the voice isn't great,

800
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: but again, I see what you got going there, my

801
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: gears are moving, Mike be a.

802
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: Karaoke performance heavily influenced by somebody who was just a

803
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: big cocaine fan.

804
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 2: Right right exactly. I was like, oh, man, is Rick

805
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: going up there doing cobaine again? What was he doing

806
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: this time? Is in seeing usher? You don't have to call? Uh?

807
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 2: But then Drake also like went viral over the weekend

808
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 2: because someone had him doing an ice spice like an

809
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: ice spice track and he was like this he even

810
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: he'd like he'd put it on his Instagram, like this

811
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: is the final straw for Ai. But there was also

812
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: another like track that was supposed to be Drake featuring

813
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 2: the Weekend. I'll play a little bit of that. That again,

814
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 2: AI generated song that does not exist of of Drake

815
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 2: with the Weekend that it so you're not at it's sad.

816
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: He's sad, bang bang talking all day on my nerves

817
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: and ship.

818
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: That's this is Ai.

819
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: That sounds that sounds like Drake, I mean because.

820
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: He already used a lot of voice modulation and like

821
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 2: on his track, so like you can definitely cover like

822
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 2: it doesn't sound as like odd as like maybe the

823
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 2: Kobaine one did. Uh. But then like the weekend comes in,

824
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 2: and you're really kind of like, holy shit. I think

825
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: like the music is really fun to listen to, like too,

826
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 2: because it answers like all these what if type questions,

827
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: But the creative in me can't help but wonder what

828
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 2: the music industry's response to all of this is gonna be.

829
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 2: Because it's like one thing to ask Dolly to like

830
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: make a pick of like Trump in a crumping battle

831
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: or some shit, yeah, and another to make a believable

832
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: rendition of black Hole Sun with like an artist that

833
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: passed away decades ago or you know, semi believable. That's

834
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm just really I'm curious, like what because

835
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 2: we've seen like Geddy want to sue like a lot

836
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: of are they're they're they're finding lawsuits against the AI

837
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 2: companies that are using like their images to generate some

838
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: other images. But like, now, what's the musical response, because

839
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: part of me like it's weird with this. I'm kind

840
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,959
Speaker 2: of hyped. I'm like, can we get a Marvin Gay

841
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 2: doing House of Balloons album? Yeah, like or just weird

842
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: shit like that. I would love to hear those kinds

843
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: of things. And you're like, oh, i wonder how this

844
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: artist would do this or that now, or like what

845
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 2: would Hendrix sound like doing like rage against the Machine

846
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: or some shit. I don't know, Like there's just a

847
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 2: lot of things that I you have these like sort

848
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 2: of creative ideas that you're like, oh, that would be interesting.

849
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: But I feel like there's at some point the people

850
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: that are making the money out that are like, we

851
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: have to shut this shit off. Yea.

852
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 3: Have y'all played with any of the AI stuff, whether

853
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 3: it's Chat, GPT or mid Journey or anything I did.

854
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 2: I did mid Journey and then like early chat GPT,

855
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: but not like not since it like got paywalled and yeah,

856
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: just been like seeing other people's contributions with.

857
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 3: It, right Oh yeah, because I know there's conversations about

858
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 3: how do you file lawsuits for what if it's open property?

859
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 3: But yeah, I was wondering because I saw this where

860
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 3: they were talking about companies already filing lawsuits against people.

861
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: Sure that's not like where like, so is there gonna

862
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 2: be I wonder if there's gonna be like how are

863
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 2: they gonna regulate this? You know what I mean? Because

864
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: I get that on some like you run a foul

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Speaker 2: if you're like selling this music. That's why like a

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Speaker 2: lot of mash up type artists who are out there,

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Speaker 2: like they just have their shit for free, like on

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Speaker 2: the internet that you can just listen to, so that

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Speaker 2: way there's no like proceeds that the label can come after.

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Speaker 2: But I must also be jarring for like the estate

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Speaker 2: of a singer to be like hold on, bro, he

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Speaker 2: would never do this, or like I don't want to

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Speaker 2: hear I don't. I don't need you to breathe life

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Speaker 2: into this artist doing some shit like that. That just

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Speaker 2: sounds like weird to me. I don't know. That's why

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Speaker 2: I'm curious to see, like if if somehow it's really

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Speaker 2: about like like the entertainment industry like leaning on like

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Speaker 2: like regulators to come up with something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, like the movie industry. They're able to

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Speaker 3: use AI and all the CGI stuff to bring people

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Speaker 3: who died previously to make new scenes with them, and

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Speaker 3: they most of them don't get any money from that,

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Speaker 3: right because I don't I thought that because there was

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Speaker 3: no mention of that in contracts, So therefore that are

885
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Speaker 3: really not able to not use it, like like they said,

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Speaker 3: I know, like the whole Princess Leiah thing was a

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Speaker 3: huge controversy because they were able to use her stuff

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Speaker 3: and not necessarily pay.

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Speaker 2: And didn't pay her.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I don't think I could be wrong, but I

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Speaker 3: know that was a huge.

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Speaker 2: Conversation about I mean, I would believe that because a

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Speaker 2: lot of the like a lot of what we talk

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Speaker 2: about as it relates to AI is like it's how

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Speaker 2: useful it is to capitalism, right, you know, it's like, oh,

896
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Speaker 2: she did watch this right, and guess who we not paying?

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Speaker 3: Jetley specifically Mad Sure his contracts had like you can't

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Speaker 3: copy or you reuse my moves for other movies type

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Speaker 3: of thing too. Like, so people now are putting it

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Speaker 3: into contracts.

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Speaker 2: Right right, right, which is really I mean, it's it's

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Speaker 2: wild to think about, like how like that's how many

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Speaker 2: levels ahead you have to get or like steps ahead

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Speaker 2: you have to get with these contracts, because yeah, a

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Speaker 2: lot of contracts you sign when it comes as it

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Speaker 2: relates to your like work as an artist or something,

907
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: there's always like imperpetuity across the globe, and like technologies

908
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Speaker 2: that have yet to even be developed. Is like can

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Speaker 2: be a thing that's in a is in a contract

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Speaker 2: where it's basically saying like, hey, man, if we forget

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Speaker 2: a new way to like exploit this thing, we're gonna

912
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Speaker 2: do it and you can't do shit about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I can see how that we're seeing that now.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like with the three, like with the hologram stuff.

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00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: I know, like some of those companies are licensing from

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Speaker 2: the estate, like with Whitney Houston or other things like that.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I can as technology gets more sophisticated, I

918
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Speaker 2: can just see how people just go around that.

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Speaker 1: We're seeing a bunch of industry leaders in the past

920
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks suddenly like raise the alarm and be

921
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: like AI is going to kill us all, which is

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Speaker 1: something that theorists have been saying for a while and

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Speaker 1: I think for good reason that we'll get into in

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Speaker 1: future episodes.

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Speaker 2: But I was just.

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Speaker 1: Very curious about like where these like what what shifted?

927
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Speaker 1: And I feel like things like this are probably what shifted.

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Speaker 1: Where people are making money off of their work in

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Speaker 1: a way that isn't like legally, like they can't fully contain,

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Speaker 1: and so that's probably where a lot of the emergency

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Speaker 1: breaks are coming from, right, But it also feels like

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Speaker 1: it's it's out there, so like I'm not sure what

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Speaker 1: there is to do other than make that Marvin Gay

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Speaker 1: the Weekend album.

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Speaker 2: I know. That's like while we're like, yeah, while our

936
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 2: justice system is completely handed over to algorithms, and I'm like, well,

937
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Speaker 2: at least we got this ai like Marvin Gay Weekend collab,

938
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: you know, and the Weekend died. What's going on? It's

939
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Speaker 2: actually not as good at all, but at least we

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Speaker 2: have that. At least we have that.

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Speaker 1: Well, Sam, such a pleasure having you on the Daily

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Speaker 1: Geist as always? Where can people find you? Follow you

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Speaker 1: all that good stuff?

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Speaker 3: You can find me on stuff Mom Never told You,

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Speaker 3: the podcast. We are all all the things, including YouTube, TikTok.

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Speaker 3: Yeah we're cool kids.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: You can also pre order our book at stuff you

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Speaker 3: told You The Feminist Past, Present and Future, and yes

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Speaker 3: we wrote it is coming out in August.

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Speaker 2: Yay. Hey, yeah, I'd love to have you back when

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Speaker 2: it's out.

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Speaker 1: Amazing and is there a work of media that you've

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Speaker 1: been enjoying.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you right now. If you want to follow

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Speaker 3: anything on Twitter, you should definitely follow Defend atl Forest,

958
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 3: which is the conversation we're having about stop Coop City.

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Speaker 3: If you don't know, go look it up. There's a

960
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 3: lot of things happening. And yesterday a lot of votes

961
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 3: went through with our council and it's all bullshit. So yeah,

962
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Speaker 3: enjoy that.

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Speaker 2: Miles.

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Speaker 1: Where can people find you? What is the work of

965
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying?

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00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.

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Speaker 2: You can find Jack and I our bast podcast, Miles

968
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Speaker 2: and Jack Got mad? Are we just a couple of

969
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: happy clams right now?

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00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: Want to oh what our teams are doing?

971
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Fantastic. And a tweet I like relates to what

972
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Speaker 2: I hope would be a few future Laker Damian Lillard

973
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 2: at Dame Underscore. Lillard tweeted my bad Reeves like that

974
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: in response to Austin Reeves's performance against the Memphis Grizzlies.

975
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Speaker 2: And I said, you know what, Dame, It's okay, It's okay.

976
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: What did he do before? What was this? Like?

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00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: This felt like part of a conversation that I missed

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Speaker 1: the first part.

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Speaker 2: Of what do you mean?

980
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: Had he said that he he wasn't good?

981
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 2: Or did he talk shit about Reeves?

982
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: Oh?

983
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know. I mean to be honest, I

984
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: just saw that, and I was like, yes, exactly, because

985
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 2: we've been joking that he's got the dog in him,

986
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: but he's really, really, really showing it, really showing it.

987
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: I think it's probably just been I mean again, people

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Speaker 2: who are a little more up on like Damian Lillard's tweets,

989
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: because I've missed a lot of Twitter content for the

990
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: many months. I think it's just in general how most

991
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 2: people feel. Even Lakers fans are like treated him like, yeah,

992
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see, we'll see. But then he has

993
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Speaker 2: these moments where you're like, oh, okay, sir, we were

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Speaker 2: not familiar with your game. As a famous Shack quote,

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Speaker 2: Gholst all right, uh.

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Speaker 1: Some tweet I've been enjoying the work of PJ. Evans

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Speaker 1: tweeted removing giant skull candy headphones motion to repeat what

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Speaker 1: was just said, you're honor And then also, I'm the

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Speaker 1: guy who declares the feels like temperature, it's just vibes.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, yeah, yeah, how how does that? Dude?

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Speaker 1: Does do that feel like it could be you and

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Speaker 1: your vibes parenting? You know, a vibe parenting parenting vibes Meteorology,

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Speaker 1: the sequel.

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Speaker 2: From the Harvard from the Harvard University Press this this

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Speaker 2: holiday season.

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Speaker 1: Making sure you can find me on Twitter at Jack

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Speaker 1: Underscore Obrien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.

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Speaker 1: We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a

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Speaker 1: Facebook fan page and a website, Daily's Guys dot com

1010
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: where we post our episodes and our footnotes or we

1011
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: link off to the information that we talked about in

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Speaker 1: today's episode, as well as a song that we think

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Speaker 1: you might enjoy.

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Speaker 2: Miles, what's the song that we think people might enjoy?

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Speaker 2: You're gonna look if you know this show, all we

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Speaker 2: do is make references to Wu Tang. So let me

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Speaker 2: just give you guys a good old sample. Okay, one

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Speaker 2: of the most goaded samples, I believe from the entire

1019
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Speaker 2: Wu Tang catalog. This is Willie Mitchell's track Grooven. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we know the song Grooving, but this is Willie Mitchell's version.

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Speaker 2: And if you listen that opening, you're gonna know exactly

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Speaker 2: where that where, that where this sample was used because

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Speaker 2: when the MC's came anyway, it's Liquid Swords. So check

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Speaker 2: this out. It's a Liquid Swords sample and it's like

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Speaker 2: such a small part in the song kind of just

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Speaker 2: goes in a completely beginning. Yeah, yeah, the beginning.

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Speaker 1: That's one of those things like I've always been like, man,

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Speaker 1: they needed to do a whole song with that beginning.

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Speaker 2: The whole song. Yeah, people always do like there would

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Speaker 2: either be a bridge or like something in the middle

1031
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 2: or the end where they're like, oh, here's all entirely

1032
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Speaker 2: new track, which.

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Speaker 1: Is so it's so funny because there's something like there's.

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Speaker 2: A lot of Algreen tracks like that which become fodder

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Speaker 2: for hip hop sampling. Yeah. So anyway, Willie Mitchell Grooven

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Speaker 2: and you know, remember uh and that's a minimum femin

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Speaker 2: then like sandals as just whatever. We still don't know.

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Speaker 2: But I'm rocking these motherfucker sandals. Oh yes, it's the

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Speaker 2: dumbest lyric. He's like, it's it's just I will always

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Speaker 2: stay in my brain. I remember as a kid, I

1041
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Speaker 2: was like, I like sandals. You're talking about it.

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Speaker 3: You're a girl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well then I'm a girl because watch me rock

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Speaker 2: these sandals with my fucking toes out.

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Speaker 1: The only masculine thing to wear is Timberland. That's official

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Speaker 1: NBA players refusing to play Timberland's as soft. According to

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Speaker 1: the ji all right, well, the daily like the production

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Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from my heart Radio, visit

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Speaker 1: the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever.

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Speaker 2: You listen to your favorite shows.

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Speaker 1: That it is going to do it for us this morning,

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Speaker 1: back this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to y'all then bye bye,