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Speaker 2: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 3: He Serre live on a sun kiss Thursday edition of

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Speaker 3: Cleveland Brown's Daily. I am merely Bo. He is the

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Speaker 3: great Z. You're back, Baby, I'm back.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I got so much son, I almost

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Speaker 4: leaned into the background the color.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a little bit of sun. Look at

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Speaker 3: the juxtaposition of seeing an orbit in the sky for

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Speaker 3: several days consecutively and not and not. Although we had

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Speaker 3: one good day, I heard that we had one good day.

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Speaker 3: Was it gibe? Was it Tuesday?

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Speaker 5: Tuesday?

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Speaker 3: Tuesday was good? It was good. It was sixty sun.

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Speaker 3: Oh God, Buddy Garritty was loping in the yard. We

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Speaker 3: had a little fetch real excited, picked up sixty five

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Speaker 3: thousand pounds of his feces. It was great and then

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Speaker 3: gone and this is what you want.

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Speaker 4: By the way, it's hard for me to believe it

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Speaker 4: because as we got on our plane, yeah, to leave

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Speaker 4: on Saturday morning, Yeah, it snowed out of nowhere. Even

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Speaker 4: though when I was pulling in from Indianapolis at around

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Speaker 4: seven thirty on Friday nighty night, Yeah, it was it

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Speaker 4: was sixty and raining, and by the morning it was snowing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. So no wonder everybody.

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Speaker 4: And then I've landed and it was snowing again. So

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Speaker 4: you had in late last night, yeah, like one oneish

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Speaker 4: in the morning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And so when you de boored, it hits you.

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Speaker 4: A the second you take one step on the jellway, like,

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Speaker 4: this is ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: What have we done? What have we what are we doing?

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Speaker 3: I declared winter over while you were gone. Declared it over?

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Speaker 5: Wrong?

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Speaker 3: Well, this was a state. This is all over by

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Speaker 3: what like Monday? Doesn't matter, dude, It March.

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Speaker 5: What you declared is this is not going to be

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Speaker 5: a long term like multi day month.

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Speaker 3: Like this, we're gonna get more of.

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Speaker 5: Daylight savings comes your way Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Night, Oh my gosh, thank goodness. By the way, how

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Speaker 3: about the fact that Musk is now tweeting do you

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Speaker 3: want longer days or shorter days? And he actually has

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Speaker 3: the power now to just make it happen. They're just

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Speaker 3: gonna make it happen longer. We want longer days, he tweeted.

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Speaker 3: I think it was yesterday. Do you want longer? Do

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Speaker 3: you want longer in the morning or at night? Longer?

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Speaker 3: Longer at night? Night, night nights. I saw day long

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Speaker 3: daylight savings time this Saturday right that where I grew

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Speaker 3: up in monte It works out true by the time

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Speaker 3: we get to Sunday. Just the idea that spring is coming,

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Speaker 3: all of those things, an extra one hundred minutes of sun.

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Speaker 3: We're around eighty minutes of sun in the day by

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Speaker 3: the change, but around one hundred minutes. Yeah, a big deal.

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Speaker 3: How are you? How was it? How'd you live? God?

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Speaker 3: You look great? The documentarian, she was really ripping it

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Speaker 3: off all sorts of food.

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Speaker 4: He's like, how come you don't post it? I said,

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Speaker 4: because anybody who knows me follows you. Because I don't

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Speaker 4: need to repost.

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Speaker 3: You do it all. You're an elite documentarian. You don't

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Speaker 3: walk up to Kenny Burns and say Kenny Burns's wife

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Speaker 3: and say, why don't you document more right, she says,

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Speaker 3: because I am married to the best. Yes, come on,

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Speaker 3: miss kay, you're the best. Let's go. She is. She's tremendous.

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Speaker 3: It was great. It was great. It started off a

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Speaker 3: little bit not great. But we'll see what the resolution

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Speaker 3: of this is. So so you don't have to get

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Speaker 3: all of the details.

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Speaker 4: But I'll hit the keynote. H the hit, the hit

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Speaker 4: the big ones. Give a I don't think Gibbe knows

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Speaker 4: this story yet, So.

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Speaker 5: I don't I leave you all alone with you, at

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Speaker 5: least I tried to you do it.

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Speaker 4: So Saturday morning it had snowed again. So before we're

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Speaker 4: going to fly down to Atlanta, we need to be

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Speaker 4: de ice. Now we have a tight connection. I think

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Speaker 4: it was like booked at forty five minutes.

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Speaker 3: Here's the deal though, you booked it on their site,

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Speaker 3: right of course, so they know they allow you to

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Speaker 3: book it. Yeah, they're tight. They're saying, this is the flight,

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Speaker 3: this is where you're at. Yeah, so they they, by

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Speaker 3: the way, build the game.

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Speaker 4: If you leave the gate on time, you get in early,

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Speaker 4: so it shouldn't be an issue. Well, we leave the

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Speaker 4: gate on time, but because it was snowing, we've got

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Speaker 4: a d ice.

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Speaker 3: And the snow must have snuck up on folks. They

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Speaker 3: weren't prepared for the snow.

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Speaker 4: Or it felt like they had like one de ice

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Speaker 4: ice and we're just sitting there forever.

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Speaker 5: That happened to me when we went to Florida a

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Speaker 5: few weeks ago, literally a two and a half hour

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Speaker 5: flight to Florida took four hours and ten minutes. I

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Speaker 5: might as well Florida the west coast because we had

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Speaker 5: to wait to de ice.

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Speaker 3: I understand why this is Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: There should be no shortage of detroure, Like, let's have

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Speaker 4: everybody ready to de ice and then we can. It

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Speaker 4: only takes it so many minutes per plane, Yes, quick,

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Speaker 4: let's call it ten minutes a plane. Yeah, you should

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Speaker 4: have five d iicers out there. You can get five

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Speaker 4: planes every ten minutes. They're not taking off any faster

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Speaker 4: than that. No, so like there'd be no delays with it.

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Speaker 4: So nonetheless we're delayed. So now it's getting like it's

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Speaker 4: getting antsy. But they're assuring us, you know, okay, we're

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Speaker 4: going to get there on time. Well, now we're not

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Speaker 4: going to get there on time. Now we're going to

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Speaker 4: be twenty minutes late, which gives us a twenty minute connection.

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Speaker 4: But we're flying into the A gates and we're leaving

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Speaker 4: from the A gate, So feel finer, right, Atlanta feels possible?

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Speaker 5: Serious luminaries, Yeah, there are a lot of people in

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Speaker 5: this building today.

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Speaker 3: No, quite serious. That's pray as serious. It's on a

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Speaker 3: short list of as serious as it gets walking by.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, in this state, yeah, I would agree, or

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Speaker 4: the nation.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes. So we're getting miss k very nervous. Long

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Speaker 3: story short.

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Speaker 4: We were supposed to land it let's call it nine

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Speaker 4: fifteen for a ten am connection. We land end up

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Speaker 4: landing at nine to thirty for a ten am connection. Okay,

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Speaker 4: then we got to get back. Now we get off

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Speaker 4: this plane very quickly. They say, you know some people,

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Speaker 4: most people don't listen to that, like, hey, there are

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Speaker 4: and they listed the flights are like these three flights

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Speaker 4: all have connections in the next thirty minutes. If you

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Speaker 4: are not on these flights, please sit down and just

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Speaker 4: let them.

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Speaker 3: Anybody follow or did everyone just go to help?

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Speaker 4: I would say maybe ten percent of people followed because everybody, yeah,

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Speaker 4: bait most people, But we we only get up. We moved,

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Speaker 4: so we're like, we're we got off the plane a

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Speaker 4: quick as we couldn't. Turns out, because we were late,

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Speaker 4: our gate at the A gate was gone. They fly

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Speaker 4: into the Tea gates. So people are familiar with Atlantic

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Speaker 4: goes T Gates, ABCD all the way out to eat.

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Speaker 4: Now TA Gates is just one gate away.

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Speaker 3: So it depends where you are.

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Speaker 4: Here we go, so we're there, so we've got ten

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Speaker 4: am departure. We are off the plane with I want

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Speaker 4: to say, twenty one minutes to go to ten. We

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Speaker 4: are like, I'm like, babe, we've got to go. So

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Speaker 4: we get out there and mind you folks, Miss Kay

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Speaker 4: is with child, with child late second trimester, like, this

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Speaker 4: is not we're no, there's this is little zogs. It's

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Speaker 4: like a basketball running around right. So we're running and

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Speaker 4: at one point I say, listen, I'm gonna go ahead.

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Speaker 3: It's my move. I go ahead, I'll go ahead and

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Speaker 3: get to the gates and I'll hold it. Get here.

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Speaker 4: So from the Tea gates, we couldn't wait for the train,

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Speaker 4: so you sprint down in the in the bowels of

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Speaker 4: the Atlanta Airport. For those who've been there, I get

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Speaker 4: on two of the moving sidewalks. I am cooking.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like I have.

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Speaker 4: Not run this fast in a long long time, bob

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Speaker 4: and weaving. Maybe feel good, maybe feel young and a

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Speaker 4: lot so. And then I gotta go up and that

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Speaker 4: escalator from the train, like two thirds of the way there.

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Speaker 4: I was just like, took a pause and then kept going.

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Speaker 4: Got up to the top.

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Speaker 3: Boom.

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Speaker 4: We're at twenty four, which is not that far from

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Speaker 4: the middle boom, booking it. I make it from our

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Speaker 4: gate in the tea gates to gate A twenty four

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Speaker 3: Jeez, that's humming, humming. Yeah, that's cooking.

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Speaker 4: So I get to the gate, yeah at nine for

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Speaker 4: a ten am departure fifteen minutes before. Good, use ten

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're safe, So I'm good. So I get there.

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Speaker 3: Planes there.

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Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, they decide we're going to actually

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Speaker 4: leave a nine to fifty five most people here. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: with people on for this plane?

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Speaker 3: Like, why in the world. He gets a little computer.

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Speaker 4: So she's like, don't worry. We count it from from

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Speaker 4: ten o'clock to quila, look at them.

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Speaker 3: I love this. Guy said, we counted ten o'clock.

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Speaker 5: You're good.

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Speaker 4: I said, yeah, but and my wife is with me.

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Speaker 4: My my wife is pregnant. She's like a minute or

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Speaker 4: two behind me. It's like, oh no, no way, can't

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Speaker 4: let you on. You never told me that part of it,

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Speaker 4: that you were good. And they were saying, oh no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: they said I could get on. But you've got to

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Speaker 4: be kidding. You're like, but she's not here. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: she's in the airport, like she is a minute behind me.

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Speaker 4: So we go back and forth. At nine forty seven,

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Speaker 4: I call miss Kay who answers the phone, and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: where are you? And guess what lo and behold we

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Speaker 4: see her. We can see her. I go there, she

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Speaker 4: is right there, she goes, go goes, no, it's too late.

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Speaker 4: I said, what do you The play is right here,

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Speaker 4: the plane's right here. You said, I'm good. I said,

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Speaker 4: this is my pregnant wife, Like we're going on a

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Speaker 4: baby moon. Like you're a human being. I'm a human being.

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Speaker 4: Like this is not gonna delay anything, No, can you

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Speaker 4: You said you were gonna let me on the fight.

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Speaker 4: She's here now, it's now nine forty eight, and she's

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Speaker 4: physically here and she won't let us on the plane.

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Speaker 4: And then she tells us sorry, like sheesus is not

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Speaker 4: having it, and she's like, well, the best we can

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Speaker 4: do now is book you on a flight that leaves

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Speaker 4: at four point thirty and you'll get into Puerto Rico

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Speaker 4: like nine. And I'm just like, man, the plane is

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Speaker 4: still right here. Somebody just walks up from the gate

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Speaker 4: I go and open. So I'm like, the door is

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Speaker 4: you can let you can allow us to do this

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Speaker 5: But I'm all in.

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Speaker 3: That's why I said, this is a customer service business.

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Speaker 3: They were human in the situation, they were.

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Speaker 4: She's like emotional about this, like all of a sudden,

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Speaker 5: That's great.

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Speaker 3: She was fantastic. The reality is that if you want

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Speaker 4: Right, It's it was wild. Nonetheless, worked out. We get

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Speaker 4: To make it work, it's fine. And then we went

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Speaker 3: lot of people in here. We have like national luminaries

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Speaker 3: and then yeah, we had draft luminaries. Uh cam Ward

436
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Speaker 3: reportedly uh in town here today to make his Top

437
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Speaker 3: thirty visit. We had Abduel Carter, Travis Hunner, Shuder, Sanders

438
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Speaker 3: yesterday on THEIRS and then cam Order portly will be

439
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Speaker 3: here today. So you have that going on as we

440
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Speaker 3: inch closer to the draft. We also have the return

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Speaker 3: of Joel Atonio yes, which is which is fantastic.

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Speaker 4: It's not only as a good news, it's great news.

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Speaker 4: And we had that feeling right at the combine. We

444
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Speaker 4: said if he was retiring, they would have I think

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Speaker 4: known at the combine and so this is this is

446
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Speaker 4: great and I think, you know, for Joel, if I'm

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Speaker 4: putting myself into Joel's mind, it's I want to play

448
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Speaker 4: another year. I want to see this thing turn around.

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Speaker 4: And I think he's got the potential to do a

450
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Speaker 4: couple of things right. One too, come back Brown's, you know,

451
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Speaker 4: bring in a veteran quarterback. The Browns draft a quarterback

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Speaker 4: at the top, and we start turning this thing back around.

453
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Speaker 4: Or you know, things are there are signs of progress

454
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Speaker 4: but it's clear this year is not going to be

455
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Speaker 4: a postseason year.

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Speaker 3: You know, in the middle of the season.

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Speaker 4: He's somebody that could say, hey, you know, do me

458
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Speaker 4: a solid let me this is this is my last rodeo. Yep,

459
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Speaker 4: send me to a contender. You'll get something for it.

460
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Speaker 4: We all win, right, So I think that for Joel

461
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Speaker 4: it's still all on table. And I love the fact

462
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Speaker 4: though that he was initial goal is to come back

463
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Speaker 4: here with the Cleveland Browns and have us you know,

464
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Speaker 4: he wants to be a part of us winning here

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So obviously at this stage of his career, he's

467
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Speaker 3: not going to play unless a he wants to be,

468
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Speaker 3: he thinks it's worth his time. And so this offseason

469
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Speaker 3: plan is one that worked for him and one that

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Speaker 3: or one that he anticipates working and being in the

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Speaker 3: middle of a competitive team. He's such a The other

472
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Speaker 3: thing is just like the individual career accomplishment start to

473
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Speaker 3: stack a little bit too for Joel, So right now

474
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Speaker 3: probably the outside looking in for gold jacket. But if

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Speaker 3: you were to stack and play a couple more years

476
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Speaker 3: and get some All Pro recognition, then maybe you could

477
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Speaker 3: find your way into that conversation, but obviously thrilled to

478
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Speaker 3: have him back, and as Kevin said, I don't want

479
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Speaker 3: to contemplate the idea of not having Joel PLATONI does.

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Speaker 3: It's great. So that's good, that's huge. The Browns reportedly

481
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Speaker 3: restructured the contract of quarterback DeShawn Watson. It frees up

482
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 3: thirty six million in cap space, converting roughly forty five

483
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Speaker 3: million of his twenty twenty five salary into signing bonus.

484
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Speaker 3: Team is now compliant. They hold twelve point eight million

485
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Speaker 3: in cap space, and there'll be other moves.

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Speaker 4: I think they'll be able to free up a little

487
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Speaker 4: bit more, but you needed to be compliant. And for

488
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Speaker 4: people who are trying to understand this, what it does

489
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Speaker 4: is it sets up this contract, which was a five

490
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Speaker 4: year contract being paid out now over seven years. The

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Speaker 4: Browns are pushing some of that money into the future,

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Speaker 4: which is good because remember, if DeShawn misses this season,

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Speaker 4: which is the expectation coming off of the second tear

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Speaker 4: of the Achilles, the Browns will get some as reportedly

495
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Speaker 4: will receive a large chunk of money back as a

496
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Speaker 4: salary cap credit for the twenty twenty sixth salary cap

497
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Speaker 4: so they're taking some of his cap off this year,

498
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Speaker 4: they're moving it forward over the next few years to

499
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Speaker 4: the point where you know that number will helpful, it

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Speaker 4: will be somewhat offset next year by the credit that

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Speaker 4: you get. And what it's setting up for is in

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Speaker 4: the future when the Browns decide to you know, part

503
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Speaker 4: ways that a post June first, twenty twenty seven would

504
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Speaker 4: make this so that there really is not much of

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Speaker 4: a salary cap impact on the Browns. They've they've maneuvered it.

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Speaker 4: And with the fact that they're going to get that

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Speaker 4: cap credit back reportedly, with the insurance that they're now

508
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Speaker 4: in a good spot to absorb this without it being

509
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Speaker 4: so penal and really detrimental to them going forward. And

510
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Speaker 4: by the way, you're pushing things forward where we know

511
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Speaker 4: the CAP's going to continue to go up and up,

512
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Speaker 4: so it becomes a smaller and smaller percentage of what

513
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Speaker 4: is out there.

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Speaker 3: The How closely did you watch like all of the

515
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Speaker 3: stuff that happened yesterday in terms of the league, like

516
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Speaker 3: in terms of the dock restructure that happened both Seahawks

517
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Speaker 3: guys lock it being released, Metcalf go get a trade. Yep,

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Speaker 3: there were eight nine things Bosa released last night. Sam oh, yeah,

519
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Speaker 3: Debo traded commander you had, you got another one?

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Speaker 4: He's got anything left in the tank. By the way,

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Speaker 4: that is, that's what you do. You trade fifth round

522
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Speaker 4: picks for proven players. It's not a bad idea at all.

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Speaker 4: And given how dat of Cliff is, we've done it

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Speaker 4: right with them already and with Jerry Judy. Yeah, you've

525
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 4: got Yeah, you've got. I like that move for Washington.

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Speaker 4: The Niners have salary cap issues as well that they're

527
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Speaker 4: trying to work around. But yeah, cowboys doing that. I

528
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Speaker 4: think that's Listen. We talked about there. The way that

529
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 4: they approached free agency last year was not a great

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Speaker 4: way to do it. They now they've got some opportunity

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Speaker 4: to maybe do some more there. Tyler Lockett, that's seventeen

532
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Speaker 4: million back to the Seahawks. Now, DK wants to trade.

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Speaker 4: If I'm them, I figure out how to keep him.

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Speaker 3: Why would you trade him? I wouldn't see. Asking price

535
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 3: was a first and a third, so obviously they're not

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Speaker 3: serious about trading him.

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Speaker 4: He feels that way, yep. And he's gonna because you

538
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Speaker 4: have trade a first third and pay him thirty million

539
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Speaker 4: a year. Yeah, Tarreon Armstead dropped to the minimum, clearing

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Speaker 4: thirteen point six for the Dolphins, and then Sam Hubbard retired.

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Speaker 3: So Hubbard retired since you were gone, Kappa was released

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Speaker 3: and then signed. We talked yesterday. They were the team

543
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Speaker 3: we talked about yesterday was the Bengals. They we had

544
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Speaker 3: Jeff Hoompson on that full belief they're keeping all of them.

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Speaker 3: I think they will. Why and they're gonna keep all

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Speaker 3: of them. So they're gonna keep Higgins and they're gonna

547
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Speaker 3: have all of even Hendrickson, Gaseki, all of them, and

548
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 3: they're gonna have all of that money, and like five

549
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 3: guys is the way it's gonna go. But they're gonna

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Speaker 3: do it. They're gonna get under the cap. They're gonna

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Speaker 3: do it, and uh, get that thing done. I do

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Speaker 3: think that the news of Max Crosby's extension highest paid

553
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Speaker 3: non quarterback is illuminating, not only for Jamar Chase, who's

554
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Speaker 3: gonna want to topple that. Micah Parsons Hendrickson only at

555
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Speaker 3: thirty one? Do you think he can top that at

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Speaker 3: thirty one? He just didn't. He'd leave the league in Saxonyes. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I don't want to. If his age is like Miles,

558
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 3: I'm sure will want to. But like I just wonder

559
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 3: liked his Maybe yeah, maybe Hendrickson too. I'm sure agent're saying, look,

560
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Speaker 3: we just led the league in sacks. We got to

561
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Speaker 3: go more than that. Yeah, but I didn't know if

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Speaker 3: his age would be. It might be he might say, okay,

563
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Speaker 3: give me more than that for two years or two yeah, yeah, Chase,

564
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 3: for sure he's gonna jump that. So that Crosby signing

565
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 3: the Parsons deal is out there as well. I want

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Speaker 3: to I have to share a quick story, so a

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Speaker 3: loyal listener in the morning that contributes to the email

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Speaker 3: segment that we do. And by the way, the mailbig

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Speaker 3: is open today for us. We'll get to that at

570
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Speaker 3: two o'clock. Relate a story for me because I've always said, well,

571
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Speaker 3: don't take your kids to comment, there's nothing to do.

572
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Speaker 3: So he didn't listen. He took his kids, so he said.

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Speaker 3: They drove into downtown Indy. They saw the Cowboys bus Yep,

574
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Speaker 3: he sent his kids to the door to try to

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Speaker 3: get a picture with Jerry knocked on the door. Guess

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Speaker 3: who opened the door, Stephen Jones. So Jerry Jones treats

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Speaker 3: Stephen the way I treat my kids, like, go get

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Speaker 3: the door. Yeah, and he's sixty, so that I thought

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Speaker 3: was hilarious. He goes wait a second, he goes back,

580
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 3: he gets two Jerry Jones signed ball caps and gives

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Speaker 3: him to his sons. Like that's perfect, that is amazing.

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Speaker 3: That's everything I want the Cowboys bus to be. That's

583
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 3: exactly That's exactly what I want it to be. I

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00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 3: want Jones open the door. I want Jerry having just

585
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 3: stacks of Cowboys signed caps that he can give to kids.

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00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 3: That's everything I want. That was great. That is absolutely fantastic. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: One other thing I want to run by you Cavs

588
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 3: clinch the playoff spot. I put his head in the pretzel.

589
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be Lebron against the Calves

590
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 3: in the finals. I think that Lakers teams getting the finals.

591
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 3: That'd awesome. Yeah, yeah, I think that's That's what's the

592
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 3: tough part about the NBA is.

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Speaker 4: It's such a long playoff season that there is so

594
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 4: far to go. The hunt getting a Hunter for that

595
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 4: team has been incredible. They haven't lost since they've acquired him.

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00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 4: If I'm not mistaken, I think this is eight. This

597
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 4: Cavs seemed absolutely can win it all. They've got to

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Speaker 4: stay healthy, They're gonna have a Listen, the Celtics are

599
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Speaker 4: not just gonna be No, their Celtics are still very good.

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Speaker 4: And yes, the Caves came back and they won on

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Speaker 4: the road in that game, but that game was played

602
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Speaker 4: without Porzingis or Holiday.

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Speaker 3: True, but I think it's almost like you can count

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Speaker 3: on one of those guys not being there.

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Speaker 4: To your point of availability timing. But that's gonna be

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Speaker 4: That's gonna be it. This team right now absolutely has

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Speaker 4: the ability to win it all.

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Speaker 3: This cap out and I think the Lakers are gonna

609
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Speaker 3: come out of the West. I think Luke and Lebron's

610
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Speaker 3: just ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: And there they'll be a tough out for anybody. Calves

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Speaker 4: included in a seven game series.

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Speaker 3: They're the two seed in the West already, They're like

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Speaker 3: seventeen and three in their last twenty. Yeah, they're good,

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Speaker 3: they're formidable.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because Reeves is a very good third Yeah, and

617
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Speaker 4: he hasn't even playing. Because the weird thing is they

618
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Speaker 4: should have gotten that center.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what happened there. He failed physical

620
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Speaker 3: and then played the next night and like through double.

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Speaker 3: But then they're they're blaming the Lakers for failing him

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Speaker 3: on the physical, So why would the Lakers have not

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Speaker 3: done it, just taken him. I don't know. He must

624
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Speaker 3: have had second thoughts on I'm the acquisition. I don't know.

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00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 3: It seems very connect has played well since you know

626
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 3: last weekend he did with Reeves out. So anyway, the

627
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 3: NBA's been a lot of fun. So there you go.

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Speaker 3: Those are you hot topics today, presented by University Hospital's

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Speaker 3: special healthcare partner of your Cleveland Browns. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if I'll ever be able to shake the idea of

631
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Speaker 3: you can get on. Oh no, but we have to

632
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 3: wait two minutes for your wife. Sorry, No, that's craziest.

633
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 3: And knowing that, I will say this, I have not

634
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 3: run like that a long time.

635
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,719
Speaker 4: My calves, especially after're going up that my calves were burning, burning,

636
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 4: for the rest of that day burning.

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Speaker 3: There's something about sprinting that's different. It hits a little

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Speaker 3: different than a nice jog. I tell you the bobbin

639
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 3: and weavin all of it. You turned into like a

640
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 3: little bit of a superman.

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Speaker 4: Even I'm so happy when I wrestled that I came

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Speaker 4: out of that unscathed. And then you watch clips of

643
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 4: people just doing normal stuff and like their acls go

644
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 4: or their Achilles pops or whatever. Like I was bobbing

645
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 4: and weavens, I was boom boom cutting.

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Speaker 3: I was just happy. I was okay. I would it

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Speaker 3: happier on the plane, would have been better? All right.

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Speaker 3: We got predicting the seven eventual deals for the top

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Speaker 3: and eventual deals for the top seven free agents and

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Speaker 3: what they will receive this week. Do we have this here?

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Speaker 3: It is? Here, it is, here's the print out. Good

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Speaker 3: jeb to you. All right, let's start with Sam Darnold,

666
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Speaker 3: who's really the big domino here, right, and that's when

667
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 3: we're we're waiting think he is.

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00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like people think his market is not

669
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 4: going to be as robust as these numbers would indicate.

670
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 3: So the two offers that they so, they say so,

671
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 3: the two offers that they have do not include one

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Speaker 3: from the Minnesota Vikings, correct, which I would think that

673
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: there would be an offer there. But they say Raiders

674
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 3: three years one to twenty five with fifty five guarantees.

675
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,959
Speaker 3: That's forty plus a year, Titans three years one twenty

676
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: eighty five guaranteed. And then they have him. It's Grasiano

677
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 3: or buddy who writes it up. They have him going

678
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Speaker 3: to the Titans.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

680
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Speaker 4: The interesting thing is, I don't know if you saw

681
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 4: this yesterday or for you guys talked about it.

682
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 3: I don't know what time this was posted.

683
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Speaker 4: But Mike Florio has predicted that if the Vikings bring

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Speaker 4: back Sam Donald on a two year deal, and he

685
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 4: said that he thinks that there is a that the

686
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 4: market for Donald is not maybe what other people think

687
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 4: it might be okay, and that you know, maybe they

688
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 4: can bring him back at like twenty five a year

689
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 4: on a two year deal. That's what Florio threw that out.

690
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 4: Then he went on to say, if the Vikings do

691
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Speaker 4: bring back Sam Donald a two year deal, JJ McCarthy

692
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 4: will ask to be traded. Not only that, and then

693
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Speaker 4: Florida went in. He says there's a sense from people

694
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Speaker 4: who are dealing with the Vikings that they do not

695
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Speaker 4: know who's in charge in calling the shots.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's kind of a hit piece on everything Minnesota,

697
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 3: which from every doesn't seem to have any sort of

698
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Speaker 3: that disruption at all. It feels like they're and lockstep totally.

699
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 3: I see. And Kevin O'Connor, we're not in this building,

700
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 3: but we used to do MVD we've done in the

701
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 3: past from America A great view. But no, I don't

702
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: see any scenario how, No, I don't buy that at all.

703
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 3: I mean I don't see that. I also don't see

704
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Speaker 3: a scenario how JJ McCarthy, who had not one but

705
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Speaker 3: two surgeries, would be in a position to say, if

706
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: you bring him back. I'm out, No, and that doesn't

707
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 3: fit with J's person.

708
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 4: Also, does it fit with anything the quasi said, which

709
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 4: is that JJ's the guy.

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00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 3: No, I don't.

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00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 4: I don't see them moving off of him. I could

712
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 4: see Donald come back, maybe, but I don't know. I'm

713
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Speaker 4: curious to see kind of what the market is for

714
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Speaker 4: Donald and where he does end up. I think if

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Speaker 4: you're the Browns, you know, if he gets big money,

716
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Speaker 4: you would want it to be the Titans or the

717
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Speaker 4: Giants of the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's what I said, That's exactly what you'd

719
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 3: want if Aaron Rodgers goes to the Giants and the

720
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 3: Raiders signed Sam Darnold, let's go, let's go get it up.

721
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: Now we're good. So yeah, I didn't you have to

722
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 3: worry about anybody jumping you. If you want to have

723
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 3: that conversation with the Titans, you can but two out

724
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Speaker 3: of the mix, yep, Ronnie Stanley, the Patriots offer four

725
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 3: years one hundred, the Ravens three years, sixty, the guarantees

726
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 3: forty five and forty three. Graziano says, he goes to

727
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 3: the Patriots, look twenty two million dollars. If that's the

728
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: deals that's pretty influential. And I also think the Patriots

729
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 3: had the most capped space by far in the league.

730
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Speaker 3: The big thing to remember with them is it was

731
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Speaker 3: hard to get anybody to sign there because how many

732
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Speaker 3: people want to participate in Belichick and all of that.

733
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Speaker 4: When they have Vrabel, yeah, I think that'll be I

734
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 4: think it's a pretty desirable location.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: They're a team that if somebody was going to trade

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Speaker 4: for and be willing to pay DK Metcalf for a

738
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Speaker 4: few years, they would make a lot of sense.

739
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Speaker 3: To me, they would, And I think they'll be an

740
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 3: Untie Higgins too if that ever comes to pass. We'll

741
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 3: see if they decide to trade him or not. But yeah,

742
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 3: I agree, DK would make a lot of sense there.

743
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 3: But they're not gonna give up a one for it now.

744
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 3: Josh Sweat has fictional offers from the Cardinals, the Commanders,

745
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 3: the Packers, and the Panthers, and they have Josh Sweat

746
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 3: going from Philly to the Commis. Commies are in that spot. Man.

747
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 3: You you hit the lottery at quarterback and now you

748
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 3: can spend Yeah, that's that's how you turn it around

749
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 3: very very quickly. Well, Zach Bond already got done, so

750
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 3: he's not. Where's Zach Bond stand stand in Philly? Yep? Interesting?

751
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 5: Three years fifty one million.

752
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 3: Wow, that's a lot of money.

753
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 5: A lot of people got paid yesterday. Hold on second, No,

754
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 5: either you either got cut, got permission to seek a trade,

755
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 5: or you got paid.

756
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: All right, Hold it. So you're saying Bond got three

757
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 3: years fifty one.

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00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 5: Let's believe.

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00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 4: So Okay, Okay, three years fifty one for Bond. J

760
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 4: didn't ja Oka gets like three years thirty nine.

761
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 3: What I'm pulling up right now?

762
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, fifty one thirty nine for Jokay. Yeah.

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00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 4: So j Okay at three years thirty seven point five

764
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Speaker 4: million dollar extension twenty million fully guaranteed at signing eighteen

765
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Speaker 4: point five is a new guarantee.

766
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 5: Zach Bond's deal got thirty four million guaranteed.

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00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 4: Okay, So fewer guarantees, higher salary. So I guess in

768
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 4: some way that's an interesting one to me because Jokay

769
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 4: Bond was great. I mean, first of all, no doubt,

770
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Speaker 4: but that makes the Joka deal look fantastic for the

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Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns. Obviously, the tough part is, right now, we

772
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 4: don't know if Joka is going to be able to

773
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Speaker 4: play for the Browns going forward. We haven't heard any

774
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 4: updates on that, but that's a that's a big number

775
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 4: for Zach Bond. Seventeen mil for an off ball linebacker.

776
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 4: It's a big, big number off a one year of production.

777
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 3: Good for him. That's a great got it done. Yeah,

778
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 3: we had this earlier in the week in terms of

779
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 3: how weak this like overall free agent class is. Ye,

780
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 3: but it's been stocked with the release this week.

781
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's yes, but it's like, for example, the

782
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 4: wide receiver group is old. It's like an awesome twenty

783
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 4: fifteen fantasy lineup or twenty eighteen. But man, so he

784
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 4: is now the fourth highest paid linebacker in the NFL

785
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 4: Bond behind Rokwan Smith, Fred Warner, and Tremaine Edmonds. It's

786
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 4: a pretty big that's a big pay, and they gave

787
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Speaker 4: Saquan a bunch of money. Supposedly, they're a team that

788
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 4: if there were a world in which Miles were being traded,

789
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 4: they're a team that was going to be very active

790
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 4: in going for it.

791
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 3: But he's not. Nope, But there we we have now

792
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: right now, just another another move on the NFL side

793
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 3: of things. We will get to those moves as we

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Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns. The Chargers release veteran defensive end Joey Bosa

806
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Speaker 3: after nine years with the team at saves la twenty

807
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Speaker 3: five million in app space. I think he was the

808
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Speaker 3: last remaining San Diego Charger, San Diego, San Diego, San

809
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Speaker 3: Diego Charger. Little Burgundy for the kids, Papa Burgundy for

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Speaker 5: I was going down all stop myself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah this is not I think he might be the

813
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Speaker 3: last San Diego Charger, let's say, last remaining San Diego Charger,

814
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: Joey Bosa. It is pretty wild even this far out

815
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 3: and that that would have been nine years ago whatever

816
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 3: it was. Is he the last one.

817
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 5: Yep, longest tenured active player, the last remaining Charger who

818
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 5: played in San Diego.

819
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 3: San Diago? Man, that was last in twenty sixteen? How

820
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 3: did they not find a How do they not? How

821
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: is that team not in San Diego? I was a

822
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 3: city with that much. I know that I have corporate

823
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 3: money there. That's one of the things that they don't

824
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 3: have a lot of corporate money, but there's a ton

825
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 3: of wealth there. The idea that the only thing that

826
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Speaker 3: they have is the padres with that poppy and wealth

827
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Speaker 3: is why.

828
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And in twenty seventeen they played in a soccer stadium.

829
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Speaker 3: Wasn't it two years?

830
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Speaker 4: We were there in seventeen? I don't know how I

831
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Speaker 4: think they they played there till I opened. I think

832
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Speaker 4: they played their multiple years in that in Carson, right, Yeah, Yeah,

833
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 4: that's former US soccer.

834
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Speaker 5: Pretty awesome experience.

835
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 3: It was home Depot Center, wasn't it? Is that what

836
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: it was? It was really cool?

837
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

838
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 3: I think the Buckeyes trained there once for a Rose Bowl,

839
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 3: if memory serves, at that place I don't know.

840
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 5: There were only twenty nine thousand people in the stands.

841
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: Pretty intimate.

842
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 5: Very Yeah, I could hear everything literally, Yeah, I think I.

843
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 3: Have that right. Also today this from Schefter. Within the hour,

844
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers informed defensive tackle Javon Hargraves that

845
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 3: he will be released on the first day of the

846
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 3: league year next week. He will be a free agent

847
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 3: as well. Where's Pedro on his Niners right now?

848
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 4: He's a little bit, He's a little he's a little

849
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 4: down on them, unfortunately.

850
00:42:59,640 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 5: It was.

851
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: Dignity Health Sports Park is what it's called.

852
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 4: That's what it is now, Yeah, is a multi use

853
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 4: sports complex located on the campus of California State University

854
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 4: Domingus Hills in Carson, California. Twenty seven thousand seat Dignity

855
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 4: Health Sports Park Stocker Stadium primary tenant is the LA

856
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 4: Galaxy mainstainem was also home to the LA Wildcats of

857
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Speaker 4: the XFL LA Galaxy and it's served from twenty seventeen

858
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 4: two twenty nineteen, so three years was the temporary home

859
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 4: of the LA Chargers, and for twenty and twenty one

860
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 4: served as a temporary home of the San Diego State

861
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 4: As Texas football team.

862
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 3: Wow, they moved up there while they built their new

863
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 3: one because they yeah, because San Diego State played at

864
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 3: the Jack Murphy or whatever.

865
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Speaker 4: During its first decade, it was known as the Home

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Speaker 3: In twenty thirteen, it was the stub Hub.

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Speaker 4: Center after name Race sold to this online ticket marketplace,

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Speaker 4: stub Hub, which is what it would have been when

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Speaker 4: we were there. The current name from healthcare provider Dignity Health,

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Speaker 4: debuted in two thousand and nineteen.

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Speaker 3: Two days ago, I was on a heater like you

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Speaker 3: wouldn't believe, just Marie heater that was just on fire.

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00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 3: It was every the synapses were firing.

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Speaker 5: It was Monday with Tys.

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Speaker 3: That was Monday. I mean it was insane, crazy. Just

877
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Speaker 3: the recall had it going a very impressive. Man. Well

878
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Speaker 3: I don't know about that, but I had the memory

879
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 3: was was was firing on on Monday. The compensation for

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00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 3: DK Metcalf being asked, according to Diana Rossini, seems absurd

881
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 3: to me. Agreed first and the third, no one's doing that.

882
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 3: I just and then you have to pay them thirty million,

883
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 3: So I don't. Yeah, right, I don't think there's going

884
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 3: to be any of that. The Steelers, we'll talk about

885
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: a little bit later in the program, revised the contract

886
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Speaker 3: of linebacker Cole Holcomb, fring up four million in cap

887
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 3: space for them. They've got a lot of business to

888
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 3: sort out over there in Pittsburgh, and they still got a

889
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 3: land of quarterback. The reports are they two that they've offered?

890
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 3: You have something.

891
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 5: Tyler Schuck is in their building today. T shuck the

892
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Speaker 5: QB out of Louisville.

893
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 4: By the way, since this is not on here, I

894
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 4: Mitch Morse, who retired from the Jags, spent some time

895
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 4: in Kansas City and in Buffalo. The Rams two hours

896
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 4: ago agreed to a one year, ten million dollar, fully

897
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 4: guaranteed contract for two to two Atwell. So that tells

898
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 4: me that to to Atwell is going to be playing

899
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 4: a bigger role with Cooper Cup likely moving on there

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00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 4: in La Atwell coming off of a career high forty

901
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 4: two catches five hundred and sixty two yards last season

902
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 4: form second round pick. That's a big That feels like

903
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 4: a big number for two to two at Well.

904
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Speaker 3: It sure does. One year, ten million fully guaranteed. Yeah,

905
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 3: not quite like the shock of the Ravens deal that

906
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 3: they gave to Odell Beckham junior.

907
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 4: But it was Odell Beckham junior has was at least

908
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 4: so like two to Outwell's never had six hundred yards

909
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 4: in a season.

910
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: No, but wasn't that coming off of the Achilles with Odell?

911
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 3: It wasn't it still Odell or the knee? It was, yes, yeah,

912
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 3: but it's still I mean, he's still at one point

913
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 3: you're hoping that he can be great again. Hell of

914
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 3: a start to the career for OBJ and had one

915
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 3: thousand yard season here, so you got that. Yeah, it's

916
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Speaker 3: very very nice. Finally, the Jaguars center Mitch Morse as retired.

917
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 3: I spent time in Kansas City and Buffalo, So that

918
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Speaker 3: is what is happening now around the league as people.

919
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Speaker 5: Are starting much quieter day than yesterday.

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00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 3: It was I think heavy lifting yesterday, and today's kind

921
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Speaker 3: of a get out of town for the weekend day

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942
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Speaker 3: So welcome to the party, guys.

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Speaker 5: All right then, I know the quote first Friday part,

944
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 5: But why are Wednesdays also called the miracle of the show?

945
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 3: Because the first Friday is a miracle. It's a beautiful thing.

946
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 3: It's a miracle. Yeah, yeah, it's a miracle to mindset miracle.

947
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 3: It's just that easy. Yeah.

948
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 5: Uh, silent night night with a k Okay. Question for

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Speaker 5: Nathan now that John Cena is a heel, who would

950
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 5: be a good matchup for him?

951
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's gonna be Cody Rhoads is the answer.

952
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 4: Cody Roads is gonna be a great matchup for him.

953
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 5: It is.

954
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 4: We didn't even talk about this. That was It is

955
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 4: the biggest heel turn in wrestling since.

956
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 3: Hulkogan joined the nWo. So we're talking, wow.

957
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 5: It is.

958
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 4: It was that it was so well executed. It was shocking,

959
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 4: It was great. It was everything you could have wanted

960
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 4: it to be when The Rock set this all in motion.

961
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 4: Just absolutely incredible. I think we could see something on

962
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 4: Night one. It's kind of a replay of last year

963
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 4: where you get like The Rock and John Cena against

964
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Speaker 4: Cody Rhodes and Stone Cold Steve Austin and a tag Yeah,

965
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 4: and then night two you would get John Cena against

966
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 4: Cody Road one on one. This is incredible. I'm all

967
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 4: about it. I want John Cena to shave his head.

968
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 4: I wanted to grow a black beard. I want him

969
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 4: to not sell any Merdley Dice I want him to

970
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 4: have a new song obviously, whether he wants to go

971
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 4: to bad Man or if he wants to go to

972
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 4: Basic Economics. But that doesn't I just Ared Knew, just

973
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 4: a straight up new bad guy theme song, final bossy

974
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 4: version of John Cena.

975
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Speaker 5: It is.

976
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 3: It's great, great for wrestling.

977
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 4: More people were talking about it than in than anything

978
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 4: in a long long time.

979
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 3: It was awesome.

980
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 5: Will you be going to wrestle Mania?

981
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 3: No?

982
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 5: Sad?

983
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 3: Where is it this year? Vegas? It's my daughter's birthday

984
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 3: that weekend? Yeah? Atys artis seventeenth?

985
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 5: Is that? Oh seventeen not eighteen?

986
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 3: Nope?

987
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 5: Okay, Travis ben your horse. The names today are fantastic's

988
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,479
Speaker 5: great knowing QB at number two. What do picks thirty three,

989
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 5: sixty seven, ninety three look like in your guys opinion?

990
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 5: Y'all are the best? Well, it's funny you mentioned that

991
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 5: Travis uh Zigur and I are working on mock drafts

992
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 5: here for Cleveland. Baby, we're back to riding. I said, hey,

993
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 5: welcome back. By the way, you're riding now too.

994
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Speaker 3: I look forward to think that to you guys's comments

995
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 3: on the second round picks from the Patriots. Now, what

996
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 3: do we have pis? What do we have to do?

997
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 5: Give me?

998
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 3: We just have to do our picks for how many rounds?

999
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 5: Rounds one through three?

1000
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 3: We have two picks in around round three?

1001
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 4: We have three picks in round three? Geez, showing two

1002
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 4: We're going to get a compensatory?

1003
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 5: Oh have I gotten that yet?

1004
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 3: I feel I feel like I can speak for the

1005
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 3: show quarterback weapons, weapons weapons.

1006
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I totally. I think we already have three.

1007
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 4: We might have three already.

1008
00:50:54,840 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 3: Let's see Cleveland rounds. I thought we have five. Everybody

1009
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 3: keeps saying we have five in the top hundred and two.

1010
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 5: I'm only aware of two in round three. But I

1011
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 5: do feel like they haven't announced the compensatory.

1012
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 3: So we have in round three?

1013
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 4: These are just people making This should be so much

1014
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 4: easier to find, all right. This is from January thirteenth.

1015
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 4: How many picks do the Browns from Kelsey? So the

1016
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 4: Browns have? I thought we had three in the third.

1017
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 4: I was pretty sure of it.

1018
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 5: Again, it might not have been announced.

1019
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 3: Riveting. I don't know.

1020
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure we have three. We have our own picks.

1021
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 4: We have number two. We have our own picks in

1022
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 4: rounds two three and four, and we've got or maybe

1023
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 4: we have two threes because the Mari Cooper trade, we

1024
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 4: got a third and then we'll have I thought we

1025
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 4: had a compensitory third, but I could be rung and

1026
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 4: then we have an early fourth. So maybe that's how

1027
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 4: it's five in the top one oh two.

1028
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 5: I'm only going with four picks in our mock.

1029
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, the.

1030
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 5: Dog pound Cleveland Brown. If you could take one past

1031
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 5: Brown's QB from quote the Jersey quarterback since the return,

1032
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 5: restart their career as a rookie and put them on

1033
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 5: our team this year and moving forward as the starter,

1034
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 5: who would it be if any.

1035
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 3: Well, good grief, Deshaun Watson. And then the second one

1036
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 3: would be Flacco. Flaco's borderline gold jacket, Like, take you

1037
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 3: a rookie right now, para troops in is the number

1038
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 3: two pick in the draft. Deshaun Watson coming out of Clemson,

1039
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco coming out of Delaware, Watson, Flacco, Couch, and Baker. Yeah,

1040
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 3: Couch is the craziest piece of clay because you just

1041
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 3: don't know. He never got a chance, you know, that's

1042
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 3: the thing that you know he went to that expansion.

1043
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 3: Speaking of Kentucky, We're playing NBC at a three on

1044
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 3: three tournament at Western Reserve last night. Three three fun.

1045
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 3: That was fun. Yeah finished second. Western Reserve was playing

1046
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 3: in like their gym, like their their prep team. Mark

1047
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 3: Pope was there, like the Kentucky coach, Like what, I

1048
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 3: don't expect to like run into him, but there he was,

1049
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 3: And I guess they have a junior who's like a

1050
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 3: five star top player in the country.

1051
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 5: Well that I read somewhere that like one of the

1052
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 5: top high school basketball coaches in the country is going

1053
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 5: to the Spire.

1054
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 3: So Mont verd in Florida. That coach took a job

1055
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 3: at Spire. Spire is going Spier's just they're basically doing

1056
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 3: like IMG is what they're trying to do. So they're

1057
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 3: gonna be on the Nike circuit as a prep team

1058
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 3: and they're paying him lucratively to take that.

1059
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 5: He's one like twelve national champions.

1060
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1061
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's why I think that's where Cooper Flag

1062
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 3: went for one Did he go there for one year?

1063
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 3: I think he did, Joe, I believe he did. But yeah,

1064
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 3: so that's they're trying to do that. Have you guys

1065
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 3: been up there Aspire? Yeah?

1066
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's a complex.

1067
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 3: No, it defies logic. Yes, when you go up there,

1068
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 3: like they have the Cavaliers court I think from when

1069
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 3: they won it, and sixteen is up there, like the

1070
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 3: actual court they have, Like it's huge. I mean, you

1071
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 3: can't believe the scope of it.

1072
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 5: Correct.

1073
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,760
Speaker 3: No, And it just defies logic.

1074
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 5: And I think they're doing some Olympic training there like

1075
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 5: indoor like.

1076
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 3: But it's all athletics, like there's no academic component at all.

1077
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 5: Right, So brownsbackers North Jersey. How much of a previous

1078
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 5: season's tape goes into consideration for a draft prospect? For example,

1079
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 5: cam Ward came back to college because his draft grade

1080
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 5: was low. Now he's in the conversation for number one.

1081
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 5: Flip side is yours, who was very high in twenty

1082
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 5: twenty three but now much lower.

1083
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 3: That's a good question. I asked this to somebody at

1084
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 3: the combine about I can't remember who it was, but

1085
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 3: how does how does cam oh is Dane? I said,

1086
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 3: how does cam Ward go from you're not good enough

1087
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 3: to be drafted to you you're going to go in

1088
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 3: the top two picks in this draft? How does that happen?

1089
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 3: And he said something pretty obvious which is he improved

1090
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 3: and it's just kind of the same like with Burrow.

1091
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 3: Burrow coming out of his junior year at LSU is

1092
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 3: a mid round pick. After his senior year at LSU,

1093
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 3: he's the absolute number one pick in the draft, and

1094
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 3: that guys just get better. The other thing, in terms

1095
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 3: of the youers, part of it is habits that you

1096
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,439
Speaker 3: see maybe a little of as young players become who

1097
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 3: they are as older players. And I think that's what

1098
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 3: happened to Quinn.

1099
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 4: I think that when people talk about that, what they're

1100
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 4: looking at is how does it improve? What were the

1101
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 4: things that they needed to work on? How did they improve?

1102
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 4: It's the most recent is what you watch. But what

1103
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 4: you're wanting to see is the things that were good

1104
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 4: in the previous years continue and things that maybe weren't

1105
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 4: as good. You want to see those be a draft

1106
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 4: and that's that's really.

1107
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 3: What they're looking for.

1108
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 4: But it's it's much more about your most recent year's

1109
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,240
Speaker 4: tape than it is. But you do look at the whole,

1110
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 4: you know, body of work.

1111
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 5: Obviously from Love of Dog Today, Asking for Uncle Bo

1112
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 5: and College Football, Nate's vowels of this year's class of

1113
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 5: Buckeyes best fit for the Browns, all.

1114
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 3: Of them, I think, I honestly, I think they got

1115
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 3: twelve pros probably in this group. I don't know if

1116
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 3: they got a super duper star at all, but I

1117
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 3: think they all can play. I'd love to have a

1118
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 3: Mecca Bukat here top of the second round. I'd love that.

1119
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 3: I think Quinhawn Judskins would be a hell of a

1120
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 3: fit if he gets to the third. I know he

1121
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 3: had a great combine. I think.

1122
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 5: It was that was Jordan Reid's.

1123
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 3: Did he have him there?

1124
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1125
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if Trevion's in every down guy.

1126
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,919
Speaker 3: He's a weapon, but I don't know if he could

1127
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 3: be like in every down back for what Kevin likes.

1128
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 3: I think Quinchon might be the better fit. One cut,

1129
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 3: get up field, let's go. I think that you can

1130
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 3: find the like.

1131
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 4: I would be fine with the Browns drafting two rhymis now,

1132
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 4: let's we didn't talk about this at all.

1133
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 3: That happened while I was gone. I think was just

1134
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 3: that it kind of there was.

1135
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 4: A Mary Kay reported that it looks like this is

1136
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 4: the end of Nick Chubb in Cleveland.

1137
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 3: So we talked about this. I can't remember yesterday before Yeah,

1138
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 3: And I was like, well is that, like, is she

1139
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 3: pontificating that that? I don't know what it is? Like Aby

1140
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 3: was pretty straightforward that like, look, he's his contract is

1141
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 3: up and he is a free agent, and who knows

1142
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 3: what happened. I mean that I don't think Nick read

1143
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 3: it thrown out the door. I read it at the.

1144
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 4: At the combine. This was just the way that I

1145
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 4: read his comments.

1146
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 3: And you know, was that.

1147
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 4: Coming off of the catastrophic knee injury, coming off of

1148
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 4: another injury last year. Knowing that his tape last year,

1149
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 4: you could tell he was not Nick Chubb again, but

1150
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 4: we thought it was to year injury that It's very

1151
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 4: difficult to understand what the actual market is, especially in

1152
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 4: a loaded running back draft, what the market is for

1153
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 4: Nick Chubb. So you're gonna allow Nick Chubb to go

1154
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 4: to the market and establish that and then you know,

1155
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 4: you haven't I think would have an opportunity to match it.

1156
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 4: I think I don't see how he gets a big deal.

1157
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 4: I could see him getting a very low minimum with

1158
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 4: a lot of incentives. If that's the case, I definitely

1159
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 4: think he should be a Cleveland Brown. I mean, he's

1160
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 4: just I think he's so important. He's literally right there

1161
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 4: on the biggest piece of art in our building. I

1162
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 4: think that you see just the fan reaction to even

1163
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 4: the possibility of it. You know, I think you get

1164
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 4: you draft Trayveon, and all of a sudden, your backfield is,

1165
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 4: you know, bring back Nick Chubb. He's kind of the hammer,

1166
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 4: and you I hope that he's actually back to being

1167
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 4: Nick Chubb. You have Travion and Jerome Ford, like, that's

1168
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 4: prett good. Drum Ford's a home run hitter too. That's

1169
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 4: a pretty good backfield all of a sudden, and with

1170
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 4: a young quarterback, it is helpful no matter how good

1171
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 4: they are, it is helpful to have a good running game.

1172
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 4: And you think about, for example, in Washington, they had

1173
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 4: Brian Robinson who was kind of the hammer, and they

1174
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 4: had Austin Eckler who was you know, can catch it

1175
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 4: more of a weapon. And certainly he's not nearly as

1176
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 4: explosive as Travion, So I think that that would be

1177
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 4: a good thing. But I really do hope that you

1178
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 4: can figure out a way to keep Nick Chubb here

1179
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 4: if it makes sense. I mean, if somebody out there

1180
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 4: wants to give him a huge guarantee, like you understand that,

1181
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 4: But at the same point, it just feels.

1182
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 3: Like he's a Cleveland Brown. Yeah, just with the injury stuff.

1183
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 3: Who knows, But I think that's I read it.

1184
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 4: That's why he's going to market because nobody really can

1185
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 4: know what his actual value is because how could you.

1186
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 4: You've got a situation where he's coming off of another injury.

1187
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 4: He had a massive injury two years ago. So let

1188
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 4: him find out the market. But I do think if

1189
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 4: you're the Cleveland Browns, as long as it is you know,

1190
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 4: a deal that has low guarantees with high incentives, which

1191
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 4: I would imagine is going to be anywhere, keep.

1192
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 3: Them, let him be, keep him a Cleveland Brown.

1193
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1194
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 4: It can't hurt, no, Nope, And I think it not

1195
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:24,439
Speaker 4: help exponentially.

1196
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:25,439
Speaker 3: One of the things that.

1197
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 4: While I was you know, had a lot of time

1198
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 4: to pontificate staring at the vastness of the Atlantic really

1199
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 4: in the Caribbean, but through that was to the Atlantic.

1200
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 4: When you're on the north shore of Puerto Rico, by way,

1201
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 4: if you went straight north from there and so far

1202
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 4: south and east, like you wouldn't hit land until you

1203
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 4: were up in Prince Edward Island, like Nova Scotia.

1204
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 3: Hold on a sec, it's that far, like east of

1205
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 3: the coast of Florida. Yes, yeah, it's basically like a

1206
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 3: three hour flight east. Really. Yeah, that funny. I assume

1207
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 3: all those things are right off the coast of Florida.

1208
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 4: But no, Wow, if you went north, you'd be going

1209
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 4: north for a very long long time, very long time.

1210
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 4: And in fact, if you went east, I think you

1211
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 4: run into and we pulled this up on the maple

1212
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 4: that was there. But nonetheless, man's like, jeez, that's it's far.

1213
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 4: You might get Maine.

1214
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 5: Wow.

1215
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 3: Maybe yep. You gotta know your longitude lines there. Yeah,

1216
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 3: so for you your longitude boys.

1217
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, So if you went straight north, this is Puerto

1218
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 4: Rico here, San Juan, you're going straight up to Nova

1219
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 4: Scotia's well, you would hit Nova Scotia. South you would

1220
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 4: get right to Caracas and Venezuela. And if you go

1221
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,439
Speaker 4: dead east from where you are, you actually go run

1222
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 4: into Senegal, the western Sahara. Wow.

1223
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 3: So it's it's.

1224
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 4: Quite south and quite east, but it's an incredible, incredible place.

1225
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 4: I just hope that you can you can work that out.

1226
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 4: And so what I was getting to is we're dealing

1227
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 4: with a couple of things, and right now, I think

1228
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 4: there's something that people need to be thinking of when

1229
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 4: it comes to a lot of these decisions, and I

1230
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 4: think it's in our in our organization, in our fan base,

1231
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 4: and that is the notion of opportunity cost, which is

1232
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 4: the loss of potential gain from other alternatives when one

1233
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 4: alternative is chosen. I think there are two situations for

1234
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 4: the Browns, and you can't make all of your decisions

1235
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 4: based on opportunity costs, but I do think it is

1236
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 4: something that should be factored in situation one. Well, since

1237
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 4: we're talking about it, we'll stay with Nick Chubb. The

1238
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 4: opportunity cost to a right now, I think it's fair.

1239
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 4: It's a beleaguered fan base of Nick Chubb leaving Cleveland

1240
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 4: on a cheap, incentive laden deal and being Nick Chubb

1241
01:02:53,080 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 4: again somewhere else. Yeah, that opportunity cost is much bigger

1242
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 4: and worse for the Cleveland Browns than you signing him

1243
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 4: on a low end deal with lots of incentives. And

1244
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 4: Nick Chubb does not necessarily recapture Nick Chubb of the heyday.

1245
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I think, I mean, you never you

1246
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 3: never want to doubt him it's just hard to imagine

1247
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 3: that with all that he's been through that you could

1248
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 3: get to that point again. But to your point, I

1249
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 3: also don't want to see him have a Kareem Hunt

1250
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 3: season somewhere else like Kareem just had with Kansas City

1251
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 3: with seven twenty eight and seven touchdowns. I don't need that.

1252
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 3: If he's eighty percent of what he was, that's going

1253
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 3: to be a very good running back. That's about eighty

1254
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 3: percent of what he was seven point thirty and so

1255
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 3: you know there's eight touchdowns. I don't need to see that.

1256
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 3: I don't want to see that any.

1257
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 4: And then the other one is with the quarterbacks, and

1258
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 4: I know that there are people who it has become

1259
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 4: I would say a vast majority consensus, not a one

1260
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 4: hundred percent consensus, mind you, but a vast majority consensus

1261
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 4: that cam Ward is the number one quarterback in this

1262
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 4: draft and that should do is number two, and that

1263
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 4: there is some separation.

1264
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 3: Between those two.

1265
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 4: That is the bath the opinion of a lot of people. Yeah,

1266
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 4: one thing about this, and if you go back and

1267
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 4: look like this is the most inexact science in the world, Yeah,

1268
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 4: there aren't a lot of people that have really good records,

1269
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 4: track records. Now at this stuff in terms of the rankings,

1270
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 4: if you go back to twenty seventeen through today where

1271
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 4: people had quarterbacks ranked and what they've turned out to be,

1272
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 4: it is a hard, hard business. I think I like

1273
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 4: Schador personally from what I've seen on tape. I think

1274
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 4: it's wild that you know, in some cases he hasn't

1275
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 4: done anything in terms of playing football, and you've seen

1276
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 4: some people you know, and you wonder are people smearing

1277
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 4: them to get him to.

1278
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 3: Drop because they want him.

1279
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,439
Speaker 4: It's very interesting it's all playing out, but I think

1280
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 4: you can win with with both of these guys. The

1281
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 4: notion of opportunity cost here is this franchise is desperate,

1282
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 4: and I think that is a fair word to use

1283
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 4: for a franchise quarterback. Drafting a quarterback at number two

1284
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 4: or going up to number one and getting your guy,

1285
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 4: which I think are I've got the point where I

1286
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 4: think there are three scenarios for the Browns in this draft.

1287
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 4: Go to one and get the quarterback that you want, period,

1288
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 4: no chance.

1289
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 3: Take to leave it to no chance.

1290
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 5: Number two.

1291
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 4: You draft a quarterback at two, and you probably have

1292
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 4: a preference for one, and you hope that the Titans

1293
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 4: don't like any of their trade offers enough to risk it,

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Speaker 4: and so they stay at one and they take let's

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Speaker 4: say Abdul Carter or Hunter, whatever, they don't take quarterback.

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Speaker 4: You still get your quarterback there, or you do feel

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01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:40,439
Speaker 4: comfortable enough with shador or Camp, depending on who your

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01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 4: one is, that you get them at two.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 4: And to me, the only other option is you go

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Speaker 4: from three and you have to go back and.

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01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 3: You have to try to get as much as you can. Now,

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01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 3: what are you going to be able to get? I

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01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 3: don't know.

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01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 4: But to me, staying at two and drafting a position

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01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 4: player is a tough It's a tough sell because, in

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01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:05,439
Speaker 4: my mind, Nathan s. Gerro's mind, this asset, the number

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01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 4: two pick has to lead directly to a real swing

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01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 4: at a franchise quarterback on a rookie deal. And if

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Speaker 4: you don't get anything at number two other than a

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01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 4: position player, I don't think it puts you any closer

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01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 4: to doing that. No, So That's where I'm at with it,

1313
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 4: and the opportunity cost. Let's say the Browns. Everybody who's

1314
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 4: so afraid I don't like Schadoran. I've had people be

1315
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Speaker 4: like adamant about it, dude. First of all, nobody's gonna

1316
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 4: know who's right for a few years. Second of all,

1317
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 4: where somebody ends up is very important. I think this

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01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 4: is a good place for Shador Sanders. The opportunity cost

1319
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 4: of us not taking him or cam Ward and them

1320
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 4: going somewhere else and turning a franchise around is so

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01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 4: much greater than us taking them and them not working out.

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01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 4: That leaves us right where we are. Yeah, whereas the

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01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 4: converse is, oh man, this we could have done this

1324
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 4: and we failed to do so. I'm confident in Kevin Stefanski,

1325
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 4: Tommy Resent, Bill Musgrave as a quarterback incubator as that group.

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01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 3: So I just think there.

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01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 4: And we've seen some movement in some of the box now,

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01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 4: but then we see Charles Davis as quarterbacks go one, two.

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01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 3: Three, Buddy, it is a this is silly season.

1330
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 4: Pennix and Bonix and everybody I think would be thrilled

1331
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 4: if Penicks or Bonix was our quarterback right now. None

1332
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 4: of them were talked about being first round picks of

1333
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 4: the combine.

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01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 5: No, uh, I figure we'll just take this another couple

1335
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 5: of minutes and then stack to our guests. Fad the

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01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 5: Preston Yep fact in question time, Oh boy fact, Puck

1337
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 5: Satawi Phil is abysmal at predicting weather and should be

1338
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 5: removed from all weather related activities.

1339
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 4: Nobody's good at predicting the weather, by the way these apps,

1340
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 4: and nobody knows.

1341
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 3: It's it's ridiculous question.

1342
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 5: How would you create the perfect NFL draft prospect using

1343
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 5: traits from existing NFL qbs?

1344
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 3: I mean, Peak Mahomes pretty much does it. Yeah, I

1345
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 3: mean he's kind of a he's a cheat code. I

1346
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 3: think he's kind of I don't know what more you

1347
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 3: would need. I mean, he when he's at his best,

1348
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 3: he's got the strongest arm he can throw off of

1349
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 3: any platform he wants. He's entirely creative, he can he's

1350
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 3: more scrambling than people think elusive. He's clutch. Like we

1351
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 3: could go through and say, we'll give me Herbert's arm

1352
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 3: and his feet and his this and all this. That's

1353
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 3: what I'm doing. You could probably do that, So you

1354
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 3: go like Lamar's feet I.

1355
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 4: Did, size, speed, arm, decision making, leadership, accuracy or the

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01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 4: six that I did.

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01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 3: All right, go for who are yours in all those categories?

1358
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:52,839
Speaker 4: So size I would say Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, Yep, speed, Lamar,

1359
01:08:54,240 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 4: arm probably Alan or Herbert or Mahomes. Yeah, decision making,

1360
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 4: Burrow accuracy probably Burrow. Leadership.

1361
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 3: I don't know. Mahomes is kind of like leader clutch

1362
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 3: all of that. Yeah, I mean most of those guys

1363
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 3: have that in spades, like Lamar, all those guys, Lamar, Alan, Burrow,

1364
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 3: all those guys kind of have that through the room.

1365
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 4: If you had Joe Burrow and he could run like

1366
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 4: either Alan, Lamar or Hurts even be that kind of

1367
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 4: like a short yards goal line weapon and.

1368
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 5: Like to be.

1369
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 3: I mean, Burrow is pretty much if he were to

1370
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 3: be if he were to be healthy, He's kind of

1371
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 3: the closest thing you have to Brady right at the size.

1372
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 3: He's got a good and plenty good enough arm. He's

1373
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 3: really bright, he throws it where it's supposed to go.

1374
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 3: He makes the right decisions. He just has been hurt

1375
01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 3: a lot, but when he's right, he's kind of all

1376
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 3: the things that traditionally you want from a quarterback. Alan

1377
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,719
Speaker 3: is the one. He offers the different thing in terms

1378
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 3: of his size and ability to take on hits and

1379
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 3: all of that stuff. And he's got a Cannon. Lamar

1380
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 3: is a total outlier in terms of his ability to

1381
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 3: run the football. And and but and Herbert's kind of

1382
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,759
Speaker 3: he's kind of in that. To me, he's like ninety

1383
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 3: percent of Marino is kind of what he is. That's

1384
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,919
Speaker 3: kind of what his game reminds me of. But Mahomes

1385
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 3: kind of that's kind of all of it. Yep, well,

1386
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 3: kind of Mahomes.

1387
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 4: And what you have heard from as it relates to

1388
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 4: you know, Shador is that he is kind of his

1389
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 4: good traits are good traits of you know, burrow.

1390
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 3: Breeze.

1391
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 4: That's what he's gonna you know, that's where he's got

1392
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 4: to be. That's what he's got to That's how he's

1393
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 4: going to win more often than not. And those are

1394
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 4: the things that I think why these meetings are so important.

1395
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 4: When you get and really having a guy who coached

1396
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 4: in the NFL is the NFL of Assistant Coach of

1397
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 4: the Year as an offensive coach on Kevin Stefanski staff

1398
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 4: as his last season's quar coordinator in Colorado, We're gonna

1399
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 4: know everything there is to know about him.

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01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean we keep saying that, like we're gonna

1401
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 3: know these two quarterballs better than anybody else in the league. Yes,

1402
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 3: I mean you think about Glenn and his relationship at

1403
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 3: the University of Miami, Like we know you to know

1404
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 3: exactly what cam Ward, you should know exactly what cam

1405
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 3: Ward is and exactly what Shoudeur Sanders is. Yep. There

1406
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 3: should be no ambiguity yep at all. So to me,

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01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, And I also reject the notion that

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01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 3: you're not gonna like one more than the other. You

1409
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 3: will like one more than the other. And if if

1410
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 3: you know it's a little percentage, go get the one

1411
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 3: you want. Ye, Sophia, what's the best pasta shape?

1412
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 5: And why? That would be the Man's lady.

1413
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 3: That's that's the g Man's lady had a great time.

1414
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 4: We haven't even gotten to talk to talking about love,

1415
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 4: love meeting or lovely woman.

1416
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 3: G Man was on.

1417
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 4: The I'll lump you in this what I would call

1418
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:05,719
Speaker 4: the the BZG the bows that g man.

1419
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 3: Our alliance is strong, Oh god, it's strong. What's your

1420
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,560
Speaker 3: favorite pasta? Let's answer Sophia's Sophie's.

1421
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 4: Question, long noodle, bucatini, short NOODLETONI I like.

1422
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 3: An angel hair.

1423
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 5: Can I go wrong with that angel hair?

1424
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 3: Like the angel hair. I like how the meat I

1425
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 3: get the meat distribution.

1426
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:26,719
Speaker 5: It's not as filling.

1427
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't have to me.

1428
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 4: I like to have a little bit of that al dente,

1429
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 4: the snap, and you have none that you can't get that.

1430
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 3: None of there. No, you don't know. I like it.

1431
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 3: That's that would be mine. And then I don't know

1432
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:44,679
Speaker 3: what they're called, but the ones that are Jerry, Yeah,

1433
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 3: those guys. Like those guys because then you you can

1434
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 3: get this the little treats in there sometimes. All right.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Steelers beat writer for The Athletic gonna on us on that.

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Speaker 3: Mike Defabo, senior Steelers beat reporter at the Athletic and

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01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 3: he joins us there, Mike, thanks so much for taking

1451
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 3: the time. I guess let's just start with what they

1452
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 3: going to do a quarterback?

1453
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 5: Man.

1454
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many times they've been asked

1455
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 1: that question since the season ended, but it looks like

1456
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 1: we're finally going to get an answer before too long.

1457
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 5: So here's what we know.

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01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 1: Art Rooney, the team president and owner of the team,

1459
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 1: after the season, came out and he said it was

1460
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 1: his preference at the Steelers resigned either Justin Field or

1461
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,679
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. So then at the combine, general manager Omar

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01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: Khan echoed those sentiments when he said basically the same thing,

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01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 1: but he also added that they had to keep the

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01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: door open because obviously both of these quarterbacks have a decision.

1465
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 1: So what this tells you is that the deadline is coming,

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01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 1: and if the Steelers don't want these guys to reach

1467
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 1: free agency, and they don't want them to test the

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01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 1: market and perhaps get into a bidding war, they're going

1469
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 1: to be incentivized to get a deal done, you know,

1470
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 1: maybe over this weekend or you know, as soon as Monday,

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01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 1: And you know, I my sense, or my guests, or

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01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 1: my gut reaction is I think that they're leaning towards

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01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 1: Justin Fields. You know, in those inner reviews with Art Rooney,

1474
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 1: he mentioned the fact that both those guys there's ten

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01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: years difference between them, and he acknowledged that age was

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01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 1: a factor. I also think that there's a part of

1477
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 1: the Steelers, and especially Arthur Smith, the offensive coordinator, who

1478
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 1: thought what would have happened if the Steelers had stuck

1479
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 1: with Justin Fields when they were four and two rather

1480
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 1: than turning to Russell Wilson. So, you know, I don't

1481
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 1: know for certain how it's going to play out, but

1482
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 1: that's kind of my sense, and I think that Steelers

1483
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 1: fans will be on board with having Justin Fields back

1484
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 1: here next year.

1485
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 4: It's kind of I thought it was shocking at the

1486
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,719
Speaker 4: time that it wasn't they weren't saying with Justin Fields

1487
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 4: and that it's not a done deal already, because I

1488
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 4: do think Justin Field's, given his age and his talents,

1489
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 4: is somebody that if he does get the free agency,

1490
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 4: there will be competition for the Steelers. If let's say

1491
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 4: it's not Russell Wilson, Justin Fields were to hit the market,

1492
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 4: what's kind of in your mind, what's the next plan

1493
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 4: for them?

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01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that that's the reason why

1495
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 1: they're saying that there is going to be one or

1496
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 1: the other. Right, Like, why else wouldn't you come out

1497
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 1: and say we want Justin Because if you were to

1498
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 1: say we want Justin Fields, then Russell Wilson is going

1499
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 1: to say, Okay, fine, well I'm going elsewhere. And if

1500
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 1: Justin ultimately goes to let's say the Jets or something

1501
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 1: like that, then you're crawling back to Russell Wilson begging

1502
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 1: him to come back, and that's not a good situation,

1503
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 1: and that fractures a relationship. So, you know, if it's

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01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 1: not Justin, I think the next most likely option would

1505
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 1: be Russell Wilson. If it's neither of those two guys,

1506
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: that's where things start getting a little bit crazy.

1507
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 3: You know.

1508
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 1: It seemed like Mike Tomlin has always had a lot

1509
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 1: of respect for Aaron Rodgers, and even though Aaron Rodgers

1510
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:40,799
Speaker 1: is forty one years old and not the same Haultain

1511
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 1: quarterback that he once was maybe the thought process would

1512
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 1: be similar to last year when they brought in an

1513
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: aging Russell Wilson, and he clearly was a diminished version

1514
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 1: of himself. You know, if it's not Aaron Rodgers, then

1515
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 1: you're really kind of going to the bottom of the

1516
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 1: barrel and really opening the door to all options, whether

1517
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: that's looking for a guy like Kirk Cousins who might

1518
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 1: released or traded, a guy like Derek Carr who might

1519
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 1: get released or traded. You know, further down the line,

1520
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 1: do you just go with Daniel Jones and just get

1521
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 1: through the season and hope that you get to the

1522
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 1: twenty twenty sixth draft and have a high pick. So

1523
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:17,679
Speaker 1: that's why you know, Justin Fields is not a great option.

1524
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,560
Speaker 1: But this is a really poor quarterback class for the

1525
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 1: rookies and the Steelers aren't going to be in the

1526
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 1: mix to get one of the top guys. This is

1527
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: an underwhelming free agent class. So of the available option,

1528
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 1: Justin Fields is your best one, and I think they

1529
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 1: will eventually get that done, but you know, you never

1530
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: know until they finally signed on that dotted line.

1531
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 3: Mike, he's the best long He's really the only long

1532
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 3: term one, right, Like I mean, this is the guy

1533
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:44,639
Speaker 3: who's a first round pick and obviously didn't go well

1534
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 3: in Chicago, but he flashed. What do you think if

1535
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 3: it is him, and I'm guessing the fan base would

1536
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 3: be at least somewhat excited about that. What will Arthur

1537
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 3: Smith do offensively to take full advantage of everything that

1538
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 3: he is Because it felt like last year it was like, yeah,

1539
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 3: you can drive the car, but don't shift out a

1540
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 3: third gear.

1541
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:07,759
Speaker 1: That's absolutely what it was. That's a great analogy because

1542
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:11,719
Speaker 1: you look back and from the raw numbers, Justin Fields

1543
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 1: had the best year of his career as a passer.

1544
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 1: You know, you look at like epa per attempt, you

1545
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 1: look at completion percentage, you look at the fact that

1546
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 1: he cut down on his turnovers significantly. He had just

1547
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 1: one interception in those six games that he played. So

1548
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith did get the best out of Justin Field.

1549
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 1: But the way that he did so was a really

1550
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 1: conservative game plan where a lot of short, quick throws,

1551
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 1: a lot of throws to the sidelines, not a lot

1552
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 1: over the middle. They took full advantage of his running ability,

1553
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: and then they just realized that the bombing the ball

1554
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 1: deep to George Pickens is often the good play in

1555
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 1: their playbook, and they did that at fair amount as well.

1556
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 1: So what I would really be like to see the

1557
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: Steelers do if they choose Justin Fields, is to go

1558
01:18:56,360 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 1: all in on Justin Field and like, what was the

1559
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 1: reason why he was eleventh overall? It's not because he

1560
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 1: can read defenses at a high level or because he

1561
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 1: has some incredible arm It's because of those legs and

1562
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 1: that mobility. And often last year when Justin Fields was

1563
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 1: the quarterback, he was the most dynamic offensive weapon that

1564
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 1: they had. And so you know, I look back to

1565
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 1: within this division what the Ravens did with Lamar Jackson

1566
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 1: early in his career, where they completely build an offense

1567
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 1: around Lamar. He was the only one or there had

1568
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,799
Speaker 1: not very many guys like that that could run that offense.

1569
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 1: And so, you know, we know the Steelers have invested

1570
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 1: heavily in the offensive line. They drafted tackles back to

1571
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 1: back picks in the first round over the last two years.

1572
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 1: They have a second round center in Zack Frazier. They

1573
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 1: want to be a run heavy team that wins the

1574
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and therefore wins football games. So I

1575
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:50,520
Speaker 1: think continuing to lean into that with more design quarterback

1576
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 1: runs and other you know, different wrinkles within the run game,

1577
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 1: I think would be really prudent. And we saw we

1578
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: saw a bit of it. You know, we saw a

1579
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 1: quarterback counter, We saw a spread triple option a couple

1580
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:04,799
Speaker 1: of times that the Steelers ran. We saw a sprint

1581
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 1: option that Justin Fields ran. So there's a lot of

1582
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 1: creative things you can do, and I do think that

1583
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith would be intrigued that all the ways he

1584
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 1: could tap into that unique skill set that Justin Fields

1585
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:15,560
Speaker 1: does have.

1586
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 4: See That's what's interesting to me about it from the

1587
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 4: Steelers perspective is that everything that you read or in

1588
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 4: conversations I've had, is that Justin Fields drives Arthur Smith

1589
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 4: crazy because Arthur Smith is about his scheme and about

1590
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 4: scheming guys open and the layups need to be layups,

1591
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 4: and that isn't just Justin's skillset, and that is a

1592
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:39,680
Speaker 4: great source of frustration for Arthur Smith. Do you think

1593
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 4: that they will be able to work that out because

1594
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 4: that's kind of been the knock on Justin Fields. Out

1595
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 4: of structure incredible running, incredible, but we're talking about instructure

1596
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 4: throws that you know, NFL coordinators and coaches need to

1597
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 4: be the bread and butter, at least the backbone of

1598
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 4: an offense.

1599
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:55,600
Speaker 3: They don't have.

1600
01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely hear you on that, because you know,

1601
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 1: for example, simple things like screen passes to running backs

1602
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 1: were inaccurate, and therefore they started taking those out of

1603
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 1: the playbook, you know, just started not calling those neely

1604
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 1: as much or like a quick wide receiver screen. Justin

1605
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: is not very accurate in those situations, and so they

1606
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 1: called very few of those, and so they definitely do

1607
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 1: have to work around some of those limitations. And one

1608
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 1: thing I'll say with Justin is like when you watch

1609
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 1: him play and you watch him live, he'll scramble for

1610
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 1: five yards and you'll think, wow, that was an incredible play.

1611
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 1: But really, when you go back and watch the film,

1612
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 1: he doesn't throw with anticipation and accuracy very much. And

1613
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 1: because he doesn't throw with anticipation, he's missing that window

1614
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:45,799
Speaker 1: and then he has to, as a result, scramble outside

1615
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 1: of structure and create something with his feet. So that'll

1616
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: be the challenge for Archer Smith. And I'll say this

1617
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 1: about Archer Smith. You know he prefers to like throw

1618
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 1: the ball over the middle to those tight ends. That's

1619
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 1: one of the speoples of his game. Russell Wilson didn't

1620
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 1: do that at all, and so he worked around Russell

1621
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:04,560
Speaker 1: Wilson's limitations, and I give him credit for that. So

1622
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 1: now he'll have to work around different kinds of limitations

1623
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 1: with Justin Field.

1624
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:09,560
Speaker 3: If that's ultimately the direction they go.

1625
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, listen, guy had five red zone touchdowns

1626
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:17,719
Speaker 4: rushing last year. Yeah, five and he started what six games?

1627
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if you have somebody that's

1628
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 4: putting together ten touchdowns and they're only throwing one interception,

1629
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 4: like you can win with that in the National Football League?

1630
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 3: Is it?

1631
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 4: And this is kind of the quandary I think the

1632
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 4: Browns are in. The question is with Justin Fields, can

1633
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 4: you operate an offense that will end the draft that

1634
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 4: the Steelers are in right, And what I mean by

1635
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 4: that is they have been a very competent team, but

1636
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:43,639
Speaker 4: they have not won a playoff game in many, many years.

1637
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 4: And you're in a division with Lamar and with Joe Burrow,

1638
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 4: and that's I think where the Browns are at. It's like,

1639
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 4: you can get a quarterback who can be good enough

1640
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 4: to have you win games, but Are we trying to

1641
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 4: go ten and seven or are we trying to win

1642
01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl?

1643
01:22:58,400 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1644
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 4: And I think that's the question with Fields, given his

1645
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 4: limitations to the throw. I loved him coming out of

1646
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 4: Ohio State.

1647
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 3: I know you love him.

1648
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:06,879
Speaker 4: I certainly would be thrilled if you were a Cleveland

1649
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,600
Speaker 4: Brown even with those limitations. But that's kind of I

1650
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 4: think that's the one limiting factor you know, with him

1651
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,879
Speaker 4: right now, and that makes it such an interesting situation.

1652
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 4: I think for a team that it feels like, I mean, listen,

1653
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 4: the Browns would trade places with Mike Tomlins eighteen years

1654
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 4: and even since he's in the time that he hasn't

1655
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 4: won a playoff game, being a playoff team every year,

1656
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 4: we've having won a record every year. But people in

1657
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh want to run him out of there, which is

1658
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 4: wild to me. And I guess my question is, you know,

1659
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 4: do they feel Fields can get them out of that

1660
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 4: rut or is it kind of in some ways more

1661
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 4: of the same but just a different presentation.

1662
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1663
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 1: I completely hear what you're saying, and I completely agree.

1664
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 1: Last year during training camp, there was a huge debate

1665
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh and every single day on Pittsburgh Sports Talk

1666
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,759
Speaker 1: radio was are you in the camp of Russell Wilson

1667
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 1: or are you a Justin Fields guy? And I was

1668
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 1: asked that question so many times and finally my answer became, look,

1669
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 1: neither of is going to be the answer.

1670
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 3: I hate to tell you that.

1671
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 1: And we found that out last year. Like, let's look

1672
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 1: back at after those six games when justin Fields was

1673
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 1: four and too, Mike Tomlin told you with his actions

1674
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 1: that he did not believe in Justin Fields as the answer, right,

1675
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 1: he would not have benched justin Fields. Justin Fields himself

1676
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 1: came out and he said, look, I didn't play well enough.

1677
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 1: If I played better, we wouldn't even be sitting here

1678
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: having this conversation. There wouldn't even be a debate. Then

1679
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, Russell Wilson loses four

1680
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 1: consecutive games to close out the year and then flames

1681
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:32,799
Speaker 1: out in the playoffs.

1682
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 3: That's five in a row.

1683
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 1: In those five games, they scored fourteen point two points

1684
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 1: per game. Mike Tomlin in his end of season press

1685
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 1: conference comes out and says fourteen points a game isn't

1686
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 1: going to get it done. So if justin Fields was

1687
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 1: not your answer, in the middle of the season, and

1688
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson wasn't your answer at the end of the season.

1689
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 1: Why would either one be the solution now? Unfortunately, only

1690
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 1: because the other options are even worse. And so that

1691
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 1: is the situation the Steelers are in. So I'll make

1692
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,040
Speaker 1: some people listening in Cleveland happy and tell you I

1693
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,679
Speaker 1: don't expect the Steelers to get over the hump next

1694
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 1: year at all. With whoever this quarterback is. I think

1695
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 1: the thought process here is Justin is young, he may

1696
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 1: have not reached his potential.

1697
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 3: We'll take a fly on him.

1698
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 1: Maybe we could be the team that unlocks him. If

1699
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 1: we don't and this goes into a complete tail spin,

1700
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 1: that's fine too, because now maybe for the first time

1701
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:23,759
Speaker 1: we have a losing season, we're in position to draft

1702
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 1: a quarterback in the first round. In that twenty twenty

1703
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 1: six class is considered a much better draft class in

1704
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 1: terms of quarterback. So you know, I think that there

1705
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 1: you can make the right move, but it might not

1706
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 1: be your answer, and I think that that's what it

1707
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 1: would be with Justin Fields bringing him back.

1708
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 3: All right, Mike, we've tackled the quarterback issue. What are

1709
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 3: the other boxes that need to be checked by the

1710
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 3: Steelers in the next couple of weeks in free agency

1711
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 3: and then leading into the draft.

1712
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,640
Speaker 1: Well, one of the first ones is wide receiver, and

1713
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 1: when Omar Khan, the general manager, took the job two

1714
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 1: years ago, wide receiver was one of the deepest and

1715
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 1: most talented position groups, it turned out that he was

1716
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 1: actually also just the most dysfunctional. So he traded Chase Claypool,

1717
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 1: he traded Deontae Johnson. Now the only reliable receiver left

1718
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 1: is George Pickens, who, as Cleveland Browns fans know, famously

1719
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 1: for getting in a fight at the end of the game,

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01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 1: wrestling match in the end zone. And that's just one

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01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 1: of the many antics that's gone on with George Pickens,

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01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 1: And so the Steelers really are reaching a crossroads with

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01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 1: him where he's entering the fourth and final year of

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Speaker 1: his rookie deal. Traditionally, when a player performs on the

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Speaker 1: field as well as Pickens has in the Steelers organization,

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Speaker 1: it would.

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Speaker 3: Be a no brainer right now.

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01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 1: They would be talking to his agent getting a deal done,

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01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 1: making him a Steeler for long term. But I don't

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01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 1: expect that to happen because it's just been so repeated

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01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 1: with Pickens, and it's gotten to the point where even

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01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:46,879
Speaker 1: coach Mike Tomlin, who often sticks up for his players

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01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 1: and has defended Pickens last year, publicly came out after

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01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 1: the game against the Bengals when George had two on

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01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 1: sportsman like conduct penalties and said, like, look, this guy

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01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 1: needs to grow up. Those were that was a quote,

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01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:01,599
Speaker 1: he needs to grow up. So you know, one way

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01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:03,799
Speaker 1: or another, whether you think you could still get Pickings

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01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 1: back on the rails and he's going to be a

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01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 1: Steeler long term, or if you think you might trade

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01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 1: him this offseason or that you might just let him

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01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:12,720
Speaker 1: play out the string on his rookie deal. You have

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01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:16,640
Speaker 1: to address wide receiver. So all of the wide receivers

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01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 1: that become available via trade are at least something the

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01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 1: Steelers are considering or need to consider. And then you

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01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 1: look at this is a really good year to be

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01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 1: looking for a wide receiver and free agency and I

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01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 1: very much imagine the Steelers are going to be involved

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01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 1: in that process as well. So wide receiver is a

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01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 1: big one to consider. The other big one in free

1751
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 1: agency with that starting next week, defensive back, especially corner.

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01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 1: The Steelers have Joey Porter Junior, but they really don't

1753
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 1: have a starter opposite him. Dante Jackson was a starter

1754
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 1: last year, but he's a free agent.

1755
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:49,640
Speaker 3: They have a young guy and.

1756
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 1: Seven round pick, Corey Trice, but he's had some injury concerns.

1757
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:55,680
Speaker 1: So once again, this is a really good year to

1758
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 1: need a defensive back. And like as the Steelers found

1759
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 1: out with Joe Hayden a couple of years ago, they're

1760
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:04,760
Speaker 1: much better at taking someone else's veteran and getting the

1761
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 1: most out of him than drafting and developing corners, something

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01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 1: that the Steelers get criticized for all the time. So

1763
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:12,799
Speaker 1: you know, I think I look at those two positions

1764
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,560
Speaker 1: as being the big areas of Steelers will address. And

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01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:18,719
Speaker 1: then finally the third one would be defensive tackle. Cameron

1766
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:23,759
Speaker 1: Hayward's not getting any younger, Larry Ogunjobi hasn't really stayed healthier,

1767
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 1: played at the level you would expect. So you know,

1768
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:28,679
Speaker 1: those three positions I think are big ones to circle.

1769
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 3: Great stuff, Mike, Thank you so much for the time.

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01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 1: Thank you absolutely, guys, thank you so much for having me.

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01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 3: All Right, there you go, Mike de Fabo, Steelers beat

1772
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 3: reporter at the Athletic joining on the twisted tea Hotline

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01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:42,640
Speaker 3: presented by Twisted T hard iced t, official sponsor for

1774
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 3: your Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted. Cleveland football kind of

1775
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 3: purgatory is where it is. And I know they win

1776
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 3: every year and they have a winning record, but there's

1777
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 3: also they haven't been a super Bowl contender for a

1778
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 3: long time, and that's not something they like. And there's

1779
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 3: really no easy path out of it. It's not something

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01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 3: that they like at all. And if you were to

1781
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 3: go into kind of the Steelers, it has been you know,

1782
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 3: it has been a while since they have gotten it done.

1783
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 3: The last time that they won a postseason game was

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01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 3: it sixteen?

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01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:20,599
Speaker 4: I believe was it was either sixteen or seventeen. Sixteen

1786
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 4: they got to the Commons Championship seventeen says here. They

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01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 4: lost in the divisional round. They were thirteen and three,

1788
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 4: so they may have been been the one seed. They

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01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 4: may have been the one seed.

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01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 3: They haven't been. Yeah, they lost. The last time they

1791
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:33,640
Speaker 3: want to play was twenty sixteen. It's a testament to

1792
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 3: how well they're organizing their operation that they win every

1793
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 3: year without having a franchise quarterback since been Yeah, and

1794
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 3: they win, they still win, but they're without Roethlisberger. They

1795
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 3: have not been a true contender, so much more to come.

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Speaker 3: You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:57,719
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Daily presented by Bally Beck, an official sports

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Speaker 3: I somebody asked if I had started Severns yet with

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01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 3: all the travel that we're doing that we had done

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01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 3: with me at the Combine and Columbus.

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01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 5: I hadn't.

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01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 3: And I also like, feel like it'll get wrecked if

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01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 3: I don't watch White Lotus when those episodes drop. Okay,

1805
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 3: so I'm watching that. Then I'm watched nineteen twenty three,

1806
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 3: which has good two of that because those are like

1807
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 3: coming in real time. And then I have the Severns

1808
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 3: carrot that is out there. Tonight could be the night

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01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 3: thoks someon all cut up on the other stuff and

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01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 3: we're food it is. I'm looking forward to it again.

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Speaker 3: The first three episodes, you're kind of going to be like,

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01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 3: it's not very fast. You might not know what's going on.

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Speaker 5: It would.

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Speaker 4: What I'll say to you is, for example, somebody who

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01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:57,639
Speaker 4: says Game of Throne season one, and so I don't

1816
01:30:57,680 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 4: know you could say that given what transpires.

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01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 3: In the first episode. People.

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Speaker 4: I've heard people say that, But I say, get to

1819
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 4: episode nine, yeah, and then live and then if you

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01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:07,560
Speaker 4: if you're out after episode nine, it's not for you.

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01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:09,559
Speaker 4: I would say the same thing you about that you're

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01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 4: out after episode nine, not for you. You're gonna be

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01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 4: I guarantee the time when episode nine ends to the

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01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 4: time that you want to watch the next episode will

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01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 4: be less.

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01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:19,639
Speaker 3: Than a second. Less than a second.

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01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:22,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, And people who watch it in real time waited

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01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 4: almost three years, which I can't even comprehend.

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01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 3: That's always felt like I was always so jealous of

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01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 3: people who like were able to binge thrones, but then

1831
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 3: also they didn't get, like they get the experience of

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01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 3: it too. So all right, next levels coming up next.

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Speaker 3: We're back tomorrow. Clevel Brown's Daily, eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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