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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is no.

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Speaker 3: They call me Ben.

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Speaker 4: We're joined as always with our super producer Dylan the

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Speaker 4: Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you are you. You are here.

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Speaker 4: That makes this the stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 4: If you are joining us, the evening, our weekly strange

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Speaker 4: news program, publishes Welcome to Monday, November three.

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Speaker 3: Spoiler.

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Speaker 4: We're recording this on October twenty ninth, just a few

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Speaker 4: days before the most wonderful holiday of the year, Halloween.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Have you all watched the new TV series.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Welcome to Dary. Yeah, of course the first episode

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Speaker 4: I did.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I think I'm into it. It's a lot,

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Speaker 5: but it's very Halloween. I think the second one drops

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Speaker 5: on Halloween Day, so I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 4: HBO has been or Max excuse me, has been really

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Speaker 4: knocking out in the park. Excited to see that, and

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Speaker 4: especially you know now, in our current climate, I think

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Speaker 4: a lot of our fellow conspiracy realists. We're looking for escapism,

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Speaker 4: we're looking for good news. We're looking for some kind

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Speaker 4: of justice or recompense. Just for the headline, just because

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Speaker 4: I read this one and at first I thought it

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Speaker 4: was fake, and I really want to share it with

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Speaker 4: you guys, so we have something. It's a nice segue,

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Speaker 4: but it's also so very ridiculous. I'm going to hit

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Speaker 4: you with it now, guys. From The Independent by Brian Melly,

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Speaker 4: pressure Bill hold on Prince Andrew to vacate the mansion

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Speaker 4: he rents for the nominal sum of a peppercorn.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, lots to unpacked there, only only if he is

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Speaker 2: forced to do so.

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Speaker 3: Is thatssarily paying an attorney a dollar?

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Speaker 4: Like just as it is, or like give like if

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Speaker 4: you give someone in your family a car, you have

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Speaker 4: to put a dollar on the title.

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Speaker 3: That's right, yea, But a peppercorn.

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Speaker 5: Remember what we talked about this, didn't Peppercorns used to

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Speaker 5: be a very dear resource that we're almost used in

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Speaker 5: trade or not not in trade as like currency.

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Speaker 3: Way, yes, very much so. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So the place in question is called Royal Lodge. In

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Speaker 4: a burst of creativity. You can look it up online

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Speaker 4: it's pretty posh. It's opulent and technically because it's something

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Speaker 4: called a long lease, Prince Andrew pays for the pays

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Speaker 4: rent of a single peppercorn a year on paper and this,

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Speaker 4: like you were saying, no, it dates back centuries to

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Speaker 4: win peppercorn was a much bigger deal and call like

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Speaker 4: had much more of a effective cost in society. This

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Speaker 4: feels so British to me, and I just love the headline.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing my best not to crack up, and I

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Speaker 4: want to thank any of our listeners who heard that

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Speaker 4: and also also chuckled, because it's just what could you

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Speaker 4: do but laugh at this headline. We love the art

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Speaker 4: of a good headline. Now, the reason I say this

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Speaker 4: as a segue is because we have future episodes that

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Speaker 4: are going to be addressing more of the consequences unfolding

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Speaker 4: hidden angles of the Epstein headline. But you got to say,

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Speaker 4: you know, in a place where the cost of living

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Speaker 4: a clarion call to anybody in the Atlanta area who's

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Speaker 4: a landowner and wants to help us out. We will

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Speaker 4: gladly pay you a peppercorn to rent us.

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Speaker 3: I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a peppercorn today.

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Speaker 4: And we've got so much more strange news to get

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Speaker 4: to today. So we're going to take a pause for

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Speaker 4: a word from our sponsors, and we'll be right back

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Speaker 4: to maybe clear the air. And we have returned. We've

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Speaker 4: been keeping our eyes on the skies in.

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Speaker 3: A number of ways.

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Speaker 4: We're all intensely looking at a strange thing in the

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Speaker 4: heavens right now, which we'll get to later in this program.

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Speaker 4: But we also, like so many of our fellow listeners,

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Speaker 4: have an abiding interest in weather manipulation and cloud seeding. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so not the space laser thing, which is malarchy, but

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Speaker 4: it now. Our pal Casey Pegram just got back from China.

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Speaker 3: Did you hear about this? I did not know that, dude.

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Speaker 3: It's an amazing story. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, we'll have them on Ridiculous History later and he

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Speaker 4: can tell us all about it. But Casey, this one's

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Speaker 4: Indian authorities are carrying out a cloud seating experiment to

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Speaker 4: The air in New Delhi, especially this time of year,

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Speaker 4: is really bad. It's small ridden, It's worse than any

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Speaker 4: that if they spray these chemicals into the sky, they'll

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Speaker 4: be able to encourage rain that will wash pollutants.

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Speaker 3: From the air.

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Speaker 4: Right now, walking around in New Delhi, depending on the

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Speaker 5: That's how bad it is. Very poor, I believe, is

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir, yep, you nailed it, and that is we're

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Speaker 4: not kidding folks. That is the technical term. Before we

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Speaker 4: idea of cloud seeding or weather modification as a tactic

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Speaker 3: I like it, I know, I know.

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Speaker 5: The issue maybe is that we don't fully understand how

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Speaker 5: I guess maybe is the concern, and maybe we don't

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Speaker 5: sort of keeping it completely contained. Maybe I'm speaking out

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't understand the science mind it. Are they

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Speaker 2: saying they're going to create clouds, which is going to

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Speaker 2: suck up a lot of the particulate matter that is,

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Speaker 2: you know, the smog, all the pollution stuff that's in

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Speaker 2: and that would be less bad than people breathing the air.

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Speaker 4: Uh No, what's happening here is and it's a great question.

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Speaker 4: What's happening here is the air quality typically is going

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Speaker 4: and then the cooler temperatures trap the smoke, and that

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Speaker 4: instead to create rain, to create a moisture flow that

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Speaker 3: That's it, okay.

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Speaker 2: So instead yeah, instead of putting in the cloud, just

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Speaker 4: Like spraying off your spraying off your front.

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Speaker 2: Up, but then putting it right into the ground and

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Speaker 5: Well, that's the thing that I hadn't really thought about

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Speaker 4: It's like a three card monte. Because look, the local

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Speaker 4: they accused the government of conspiring to do something very

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Speaker 4: much like THEATO. Let's go to Krishna Achuta Rao not

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Speaker 4: the Indian Institute of Technology. Right, they're a new Delhi,

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Speaker 4: and this professor says, look, this idea is ineffective. It

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Speaker 4: will only dissipate pollution for a few days after, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's like a band aid. And then after a few

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Speaker 4: back to the crappy state it was before. They didn't

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Speaker 3: He says.

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Speaker 4: Instead, what people need, a real answer is going to

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Speaker 4: be strong laws reducing emissions from all these sources. They're

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Speaker 4: he's got a quote that I think is our best,

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Speaker 4: our best pull from this story. He said, cloud seating

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Speaker 4: is not really a cure for pollution. The main purpose

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Speaker 4: appears to be to show people that something is being

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Speaker 4: done to again theater, look at us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah we're innovative. We did a thing. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, anytime someone proposes this kind of band aid sort

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Speaker 2: Well, wait, saying they've been trying this since nineteen fifty

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Speaker 2: seven in cloud seed to reduce like cloud seating to

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Speaker 4: Is it's it gets good response from the public. We

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Speaker 4: is it's a lot like just taking advil to reduce

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Speaker 2: Makes sense as long as you don't take tailand all.

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Speaker 2: I was about to say, right, because did you guys

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Speaker 2: see that story with tailand is like under lawsuit now

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Speaker 5: The tank their stock price for sure.

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Speaker 3: I mean just like the brand name the association.

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Speaker 5: When people of level of government have a lot of power,

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Speaker 5: which is the things they say.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of theater.

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Speaker 4: And also exactly, let's stick to the weather here, because

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Speaker 4: as we're recording again on October twenty ninth, and historically

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Speaker 4: is torn through Jamaica. There is a huge crisis situation.

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Speaker 4: There's not a lot of information out about.

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Speaker 4: It has hit Cuba as well. We just wanted to

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Speaker 4: make space and acknowledge for all our listeners from those

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Speaker 4: be safe and if there is anything that you can

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Speaker 4: do personally to assist, we know times are tough for

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Speaker 4: financial assistance to any of the many organizations that are

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Speaker 3: Don't seem to be going anywhere. Seem to be listening.

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Speaker 4: Now, and you know, hopes were high until to like

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Speaker 2: So, Ben, you're saying, there is hope and our new

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Speaker 4: There could be a middle ground or kind of a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And then also look at ICE as hiring practices,

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Speaker 2: That was from Charlie by the way, uh, that message

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Speaker 3: Maybe we'll do my best. All right, and we.

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Speaker 5: Have returned, you know what, I'm just gonna go ahead

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Speaker 4: There's still plenty of hunters out there, but people were

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Speaker 5: Well, that's that's exactly right, Ben, Which is an other

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Speaker 4: It'll depend on whether there're still human legislators.

439
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Speaker 2: Also true, Yeah, but maybe they're really you know, they

440
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Speaker 2: follow the letter of the law, and that's part of

441
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Speaker 2: the thing. Like they if it's written in the code,

442
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Speaker 2: then they have to follow it.

443
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Speaker 5: And until they feel it's no longer advantageous, and then

444
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Speaker 5: they rewrite their own code. I mean, tale the oldest

445
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Speaker 5: son of a gun in terms of the sci fi

446
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Speaker 5: of it all, so real quick, moving on to a

447
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Speaker 5: story that you teased, Ben, the idea of things in

448
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 5: the sky. We've got a little bit of new information

449
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Speaker 5: coming out linking some mysterious sightings of UAPs or unidentified

450
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Speaker 5: lights in the night sky to historic nuclear tests.

451
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Speaker 3: But yeah, this is pretty cool.

452
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Speaker 5: Science Alert Michelle Starr had this to say, mysterious lights

453
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Speaker 5: and reports of identified anomalist phenomenon in the nineteen forties

454
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Speaker 5: and fifties appear to somehow be linked to nuclear testing.

455
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Speaker 5: Scientists have discovered this comes from a study out of

456
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Speaker 5: Vanderbilt University and also Stockholm University, a joint venture and anesthesiologist.

457
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Speaker 5: Not sure why an anesthesiologist is involved here, that's interesting.

458
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Speaker 5: Stephen Brule of Vanderbilt had this to say, our findings

459
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Speaker 5: provide additional empirical support for the validity of the UAP

460
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Speaker 5: phenomenon and its potential connection to nuclear weapons activity, contributing

461
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Speaker 5: data beyond eyewitness reports. Between nineteen forty nine nineteen fifty

462
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Speaker 5: eight and Matt we were talking off Mike about having

463
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Speaker 5: mentioned this in the past. The Mount Palomar Observatory conducted

464
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Speaker 5: its first ever Palamar Observatory Sky Surveys DASH one, which

465
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Speaker 5: is a project intended to photograph and map the entire

466
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Speaker 5: northern sky one sector at a time. Analysis Subsequent analysis

467
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Speaker 5: of these images have shown various what are being referred

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Speaker 5: to here as transients, points of light that appear in

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Speaker 5: one observation but disappear before the next. The poss DASH

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Speaker 5: one transients often have been attributed to mistakes, anomalous photographic

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Speaker 5: plate issues, things like that faults.

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Speaker 3: In the equipment.

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Speaker 5: However, for the last several years, Villa Roel, who is

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Speaker 5: the I believe the Swedish scientists involved, has led the

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Speaker 5: vanishing and appearing sources during a century of observations project

476
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Speaker 5: or VASCO boy do we have a good acronym? Which

477
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Speaker 5: is an effort to identify some of these changes using

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Speaker 5: a century of astronomical data. In a paper was published

479
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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty one, Villarol and her team found that

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Speaker 5: plate defects were not enough of an explanation for some

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Speaker 5: of these transients. This is not a cut and dried explanation.

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Speaker 5: There is, of course, as there always is in science,

483
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Speaker 5: varying interpretations of the data. But Brule and vill Oil

484
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Speaker 5: wanted to test this further and find a little more

485
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Speaker 5: meaning outside of just the idea of it being a fluke.

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Speaker 5: They wanted to see if these could be these transients

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Speaker 5: could be linked to anthropogenic or atmospheric phenomenon, and they

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Speaker 5: focused on above ground nuclear tests that took place during

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Speaker 5: the mid twentieth century. So, after looking at a particular

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Speaker 5: data set, or creating one that covered twenty seven hundred

491
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Speaker 5: and eighteen days, they noted the days on which these

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Speaker 5: transients appeared and then cross referenced them with dates of

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Speaker 5: known US, British, and Soviet above ground nuclear weapons tests,

494
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Speaker 5: as well as witness reports of UAPs, as the Science

495
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Speaker 5: Alert article points out, formerly known as UFOs, recorded in

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Speaker 5: the UFO CAT database, and they found that the results

497
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Speaker 5: were pretty interesting. The transients appeared in the sky forty

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Speaker 5: five percent more frequently within one of those nuclear test windows,

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Speaker 5: so a day before and after a nuclear test you'd

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Speaker 5: be much more likely to see one. The day after

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Speaker 5: a nuclear test returned the most significant link, they say

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Speaker 5: in the Science Alert piece, a sixty eight percent higher

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Speaker 5: likelihood of a transient appearing in the poss stash one data.

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Speaker 4: That's interesting, the one line I want to go back to.

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Speaker 4: There they said the day before as well as the

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Speaker 4: day after. The day after makes sense. The day before

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Speaker 4: is a little time you whymy is.

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Speaker 3: Let me let me take a look at this and

509
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 3: just read the exact quote here. Let's see. Yeah, that's correct.

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Speaker 5: Transience appeared the sky forty five percent more often within

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Speaker 5: a nuclear test window, that is, a day before and

512
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Speaker 5: after a nuclear test took place, but after to your point, Ben,

513
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 5: you had a jump much higher, a much higher of

514
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 5: likelihood for for those transients to take place.

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Speaker 2: If you want to, you can imagine just the concept

516
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Speaker 2: that some force, some entity, some you know, object that

517
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: ability to be one of those things could potentially have

518
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: the have a different viewpoint of time, right, a different

519
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: way in which they interact with time.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's exactly where It's exactly where I'm going, man.

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Speaker 4: Because of our long standing, long standing what of the

522
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 4: great Pantheon, members of the Pantheon of conspiracy theories in

523
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 4: the nuclear mill you is the idea of something extraterrestrial, sapient, sentient,

524
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 4: non human and perhaps extra dimensional continually monitoring nuclear development

525
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 4: and technology. And the deeper you dig into that rabbit hole, folks,

526
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 4: the deeper it goes, whether it be to.

527
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Speaker 3: Use against us or to try to save us from ourselves, right, yeah,

528
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: or to.

529
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Speaker 4: Just like David Attenborough Star Trek Prime directive.

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Speaker 6: Watch the monkeys, you know what I mean with a

531
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Speaker 6: weird alien narrator.

532
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Speaker 3: I really love that. It's very very good.

533
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: That's the language. Yeah, and really the subtitles are, Ah,

534
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: the man ape human being has harnessed the atom.

535
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Speaker 5: Oh look at them, Look at the little monkeys blowing

536
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 5: themselves up again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: These results, however, don't explain all of the correlations, but

539
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 5: they do suggest that both the transients and at least

540
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Speaker 5: some U a P.

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Speaker 3: Sightings are in fact real.

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Speaker 5: So it's again it's one of those bits of signs

543
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 5: that begets more questions I think than it maybe gives answers.

544
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 5: Let's see, regardless of what transi ants are ultimately determined

545
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 5: to be the researchers right. Our results add to growing

546
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Speaker 5: evidence supporting the interpretation of transience as real observations rather

547
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 5: than as emulsion defects.

548
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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: This is just a reminder that when we talked about

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Speaker 2: it before the first satellite is nineteen fifty seven. So

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00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: this is the data there starts ten years before the

552
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Speaker 2: first satellite. And when you're talking about something shiny, something

553
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Speaker 2: that could reflect light in the ways that they're talking

554
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,719
Speaker 2: about in these plates, there would be no human made

555
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: satellites or anything around the Earth at that point.

556
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and again, is this essentially for all of us

557
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 4: followed non astronomical experts, This essentially is forensics. They're going

558
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Speaker 4: back through data that already existed and looking through with

559
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 4: a looking through with a different perspective. So this is

560
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 4: immensely valuable stuff. And you never know when you start

561
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 4: digging these these sorts of root of begas, you never

562
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 4: know what's going to come out of the ground.

563
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Speaker 3: So I hope the research continues.

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Speaker 5: Ooh ooh ooh, good transition, Ben speaking of stuff coming

565
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Speaker 5: out of the ground, and we only have a second

566
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Speaker 5: but I just want to mention this, maybe for a

567
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Speaker 5: further deep.

568
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Speaker 3: Dive et this.

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Speaker 4: Well.

570
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Speaker 5: Researchers at the Ohio State University have proven or at

571
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 5: least demonstrated through tests that mushrooms Chautauqi mushrooms or that's

572
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Speaker 5: what they're using in particular, can be used as data

573
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Speaker 5: storage media that can process as well as store digital information.

574
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Speaker 5: This is something that could potentially lead to organic and

575
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Speaker 5: sustainable computing. Down love it a lot the past about

576
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 5: mushrooms being used in robotics, that they create these pulses,

577
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 5: these neural network kind of blips, you know, and the

578
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 5: idea of them being able to communicate through vast distances

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Speaker 5: underground through there what is it called my celia. I believe, Yes,

580
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 5: mushrooms are fascinating things and like we often say, the

581
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Speaker 5: closest things to aliens that we sinceed, you know, existing

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Speaker 5: here on this planet. I'm just going to do a

583
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 5: quick quote read from this piece from tech spot by

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Speaker 5: Sky Jacobs. Researchers turned mushrooms into living memory chips for

585
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 5: sustainable computers. Mushrooms of long attracted scientific attention for their

586
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 5: complex biological networks and resilience across environments. Those same biological

587
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 5: systems researchers found can be engineered to create something called memristers,

588
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 5: devices that retain memory of electrical activity. Memristors already exist

589
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 5: in conventional silicon chips, but the Ohio State team sought

590
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Speaker 5: an organic equivalent that could operate in accordance with the

591
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Speaker 5: principles of bioelectronics, a growing field that merges biology and computing.

592
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 5: And then we were talking briefly about this off Mike,

593
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Speaker 5: you'd mentioned a really cool video that you wanted to

594
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Speaker 5: send me where it was mushrooms being harnessed to make

595
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Speaker 5: electronic music. Oh, yeah, by I guess capturing some of

596
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 5: these internal electronic.

597
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: Signals these turns.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, Biotechnology is fascinating, especially research like this, because

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00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 4: as we see, when human technology evolves, the more sophisticated

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Speaker 4: it becomes, the more frequently it tends to mimic things

601
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 4: that already exist in nature exactly, and that's what that

602
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 4: species is figuring out, and hopefully it'll lead to some

603
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 4: amazing breakthroughs. We're not just doing this for our human

604
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 4: conspiracy realist in the crowd. We're doing it for our

605
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 4: fun guys too, So we can't wait to hear your

606
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Speaker 4: emails or your songs, your mushroom song.

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00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 5: We are all fun guys. It's true last thing. And

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Speaker 5: then when we go on to a break According to

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Speaker 5: researcher is. The fungal structure is known as my celia,

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Speaker 5: provide a natural substrate for the conduction and storage of

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Speaker 5: electrical signals. And their experiment mushrooms including Shataki and button.

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00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 5: We're cultivated under controlled conditions then dehydrated to preserve their

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Speaker 5: internal structure. Electrodes were attached to different regions of the

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Speaker 5: caps and stems to record the materials responses to electrical

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00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 5: pulses at varying voltages and frequencies, and they found Measurements

616
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Speaker 5: showed that the fungal circuits could toggle between electrical states

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Speaker 5: up to five, eight hundred and fifty times a second,

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Speaker 5: achieving nearly ninety percent signal retention when used as temporary

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Speaker 5: computer memory like RAM. It's wild your computers are going

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Speaker 5: to And we know the issue of course with RAM

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Speaker 5: and chips and all of that, the rare earth minerals

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Speaker 5: and all of the mining operations and the scarcity and

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Speaker 5: the supply chain of it all. What a cool thing

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Speaker 5: if this were something that might one day be on

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Speaker 5: the table. But then you have to ask yourself, this

626
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Speaker 5: is big tech going to be cool with this? Is

627
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Speaker 5: big mining going to be cool with this?

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Speaker 4: And forget about them I'm moving on.

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Speaker 3: I'm breaking up with them. It's time for big shrewm

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Speaker 3: love it.

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Speaker 2: Oooo.

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Speaker 5: Well, let's take a quick word from our sponsor and

633
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Speaker 5: then'll be back with one more segment of strange news.

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Speaker 2: And we've returned, as we noted earlier, the day where

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Speaker 2: we're recording this is Wednesday, October twenty ninth, a day

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Speaker 2: that will forever be known as Perihelian day. This is

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Speaker 2: the day when three I Atlas comes the closest in

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Speaker 2: its journey through our Solar System to the Sun. Now

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Speaker 2: why is that significant? Well, we're jumping to our old

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Speaker 2: pal a VI lobe writing and medium to get the answer. Here,

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Speaker 2: he writes, on today, October twenty ninth, the interstellar object

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Speaker 2: three I Atlas will get the closest distance to the Sun,

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Speaker 2: which is two hundred and three million kilometers, completing half

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Speaker 2: of its journey through the Solar System. Now, for a spacecraft, guys,

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Speaker 2: not necessarily for a comment, actually not at all for

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Speaker 2: a commet, but for a spacecraft, something that can push,

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Speaker 2: pull itself, changes direction, give thrust. For a space craft,

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Speaker 2: perihelion is the optimal time to either accelerate or decelerate

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Speaker 2: with their engines or whatever propulsion systems they have, because

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Speaker 2: there's a gravitational assist from the Sun that is achieved

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Speaker 2: when you're the closest to the Sun. So whatever move

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Speaker 2: you make at that point at perihelion, you're gonna get

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Speaker 2: a big old boost. So you're gonna take a lot

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Speaker 2: less energy to make a huge move than you would

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Speaker 2: if you were much further away from that large gravitational

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Speaker 2: pull of the Sun.

657
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can slingshot even.

658
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 2: That's exactly what it's called a slingshot effect that you

659
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 2: can get at perihelion. This is why it's super super interesting,

660
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 2: and this is what Avi says, quote, the fundamental question

661
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 2: is whether three I Atlas is a trojan horse with

662
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: the external appearance of a natural comet but carrying a

663
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: potential threat in its interior. He goes on in the

664
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: article to talk about the trojan horse, and it's really

665
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 2: funny to imagine. It's funny in my mind to imagine

666
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: some highly advanced ancient civilization out there in the deep

667
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: see in some other galaxy coming up with the idea,

668
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: what if we make the spaceship look like a comet

669
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: so people on other planets wouldn't think anything of it

670
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: until we reach the Sun and then we turn on

671
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 2: the engines.

672
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 4: Something similar happens in the Well. Kind of similar happens

673
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 4: in the sci fi epic Anathem by Neil Stevenson, wherein

674
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 4: I'm not sure i'll say it without spoiling too much,

675
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 4: but the idea is that you don't want to spook.

676
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: The locals, and that would make sense, right from a

677
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: strategic perspective, especially if you're going in for nefarious means. Right,

678
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: if you're going to intercept a planet that has a

679
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 2: large civilization of intelligent animals on it, probably don't want

680
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: to scare them until it's almost too late.

681
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 3: Basically, I'm surprise.

682
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's not what we're saying here. That's also

683
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 2: not what ABVI is saying, obvious saying, Hey, if it

684
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: was something like that, we might we might notice a

685
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 2: change in the trajectory, an unexpected change in trajectory at

686
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: this point. Right so today, right now, hopefully there are

687
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: people out there observing as best they can. Because it

688
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 2: is past the Sun, it's a little hard to observe.

689
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: It is observable, though, because of some of the telescopes

690
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: and systems that we have to observe things without so

691
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: much of the light. It's more of like the X

692
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: ray telescopes from these other telescopes that can observe the

693
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 2: object currently even though the sun's kind of in the way.

694
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: But who knows. It's happening right now as we're recording,

695
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: which is super exciting.

696
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 4: Right And just for perspective, folks, the boffins believe that

697
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 4: Atlas is about twice the age of the actual Earth.

698
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 4: So whatever, Yeah, it might be it's been on the

699
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 4: way or it's been traveling for a long time. And

700
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 4: I forgot to mention this off. But I know Joe

701
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 4: Rogan isn't for everybody.

702
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 3: I get it.

703
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 4: But if you are interested in this conversation, please check

704
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 4: out a recent episode of The Rogan Experience from just

705
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 4: yesterday featuring Avi Lobe where he raises listening to it.

706
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 4: It gave me some concerns because he was talking with

707
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 4: Joe Rogan and said that he feels some of the

708
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 4: discussions we need to be having in the public sphere

709
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 4: are being suppressed or blocked. So it's possible, at least

710
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 4: per Avi Lobe and per people who agree with that sentiment,

711
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 4: it's possible that there could be much more to the

712
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 4: story that is purposely being kept from the public.

713
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: Yes, I definitely, yeah, And it's oh man, it's exciting

714
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: to listen to it.

715
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 3: Sure is.

716
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: It does feel like it aims toward conspiratorial a little bit,

717
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 2: because you've got some of you, like Joe Rogan that's

718
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: really interested in this kind of thing, and you know,

719
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: is leaving open those possibilities the way Abbi is too.

720
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: I just feel like sometimes when you get even I

721
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 2: know I do it for sure, But when I get

722
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: into the thought process of it and and kind of

723
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: obsessed with it, I let myself imagine some things that

724
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: are very very unlikely, and I let myself imagine them

725
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 2: being way more real than they potentially are. Sure, but

726
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 2: you know that's the fun of it, right that's.

727
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 4: The lottery unlikely. Is not impossible. I mean life on

728
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 4: planet Earth is highly unlikely. Oh yes, yes, So we

729
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,479
Speaker 4: just win the lottery more than once, is what I'm saying.

730
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure. Just if there are a couple

731
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: articles coming out of space dot Com that are really

732
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: interesting in this too. They're talking about they're talking about

733
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: the age of it. They're saying it's it's significantly older

734
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 2: than the entirety of the Solar system that we currently

735
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: exist in, which that's crazy to even think about. But

736
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: then when you think about the massive journey this obvious

737
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 2: has been on, it kind of makes sense, going between

738
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: star systems and all that. Going back to Ovi Love's

739
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 2: piece in Medium, you can find it, by the way,

740
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: it is titled the Acid Test of three I backslash

741
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 2: Atlas at Perihelium. You'll find that again on medium. He

742
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: gives us some dates that we need to be on

743
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: the lookout for. The first is November third. This is

744
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 2: when it will come within a distance of ninety seven

745
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 2: million kilometers from Venus, which is going to be the

746
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 2: closest that it gets to that guy. And by the way,

747
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,439
Speaker 2: the third that's today as you're hearing this hopefully, Yeah,

748
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: pretty cool. The next is December nineteenth, six days before Christmas.

749
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: That's when it's going to get the closest to Earth.

750
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 2: So six days before Christmas, closest it'll be to Earth

751
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 2: if it doesn't change its trajectory at all. Today when

752
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: we're recording this, also March sixteenth, that's when three I

753
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: Atlas is going to be the closest to Jupiter and

754
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 2: the coolest thing about when it's close to Jupiter. It's

755
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: where the Juno spacecraft might be able to image it

756
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 2: and actually use some radio antenna to listen see if

757
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: three eye Atlas is doing anything fun and with those

758
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: radio waves, maybe it is. It makes me so excited.

759
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 2: It's spooky, but it's very exciting. It's very cool. Oh

760
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 2: there is one other thing that Obvious says in here.

761
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 2: I think it's just a little Halloween statement. He says,

762
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 2: is three I Atlas wearing a costume of a comet?

763
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: Or is it truly an icy rock of natural origin?

764
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 2: Maybe it's wearing a costume. You guys, you can go

765
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: further and further into this huge rabbit hole the piece

766
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: inspace dot com which you can also look up Awakening

767
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: an interstellar wanderer, surprising nickel detection and Comet three I Atlas.

768
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 2: This is super cool to me as a thought experiment, guys, because, uh,

769
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: these folks down in Chili at the very large telescope

770
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: early on noticed that three I Atlas was emitting nickel.

771
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 2: They saw the chemical signature of nickel, and essentially a

772
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 2: cloud of nickel in a you would call it an

773
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: atmosphere around this thing. It's not a true atmosphere, but

774
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 2: almost a cloud of nickel around it.

775
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 4: As it's travel, it's giving it's giving nickel, yeah.

776
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, before it's even interacting enough with the heat from

777
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 2: the sun to create the tails that we talked about previously.

778
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 2: But this, this concept of a small medium of nickel

779
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: through which this thing is traveling through space. Guys, does

780
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: it remind you of any like version of travel that's

781
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: been thought about in sci fi? This concept of creating

782
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: a bubble that could be electrically charged or electromagnetically charged

783
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 2: in a way that the object is not actually moving

784
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 2: through space in the same way it's moving through this

785
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: medium that it's generating as it goes. So then mitigating gravity, Yeah,

786
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: so the medium itself is the thing that could potentially

787
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 2: even travel at near speed of light or speed of

788
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 2: light kind of thing, and then the vehicle inside is

789
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: just inside that. I don't that's I know that sounds crazy,

790
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: but it just made me think.

791
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 4: Of that, And I want to clarify that statement. Mitigating

792
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 4: the effects of gravity, yes, rather than not actually mitigating

793
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 4: general gravity, but more so meaning that if there were

794
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:45,959
Speaker 4: something inside it would be able to potentially survive some

795
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 4: otherwise damaging forces.

796
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: Yes, and then we also have a little conversation about

797
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: using naturally occurring minerals and rocks to mitigate radiation forces.

798
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: And this concept of that Abby has that maybe there's

799
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: something inside the rock exterior. I don't know all of

800
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: it together, just it makes me. It makes a little

801
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 2: kid in me want to just jump around be like

802
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 2: aliens aliens.

803
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 4: It makes me also think of especially just given recent

804
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 4: circumstances and this time of the year and the lovely

805
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 4: weather we're having, it reminds me of the dark forests.

806
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 4: So what if it's like a time capsule from a

807
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 4: civilization older than this solar system and it lands or

808
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 4: reveals some message and we ultimately are able to decode

809
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 4: it and it says ssh, they can hear you, or

810
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 4: it just says watch out or good luck yeah, or

811
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 4: or farritos or the future.

812
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

813
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 4: I love the idea of an ancient, an ancient artifact

814
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 4: conveying a message. It's such a it's such an impressive

815
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 4: it's a beautiful flex you know. It's what the human

816
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 4: did with voyager, which is still out there somewhere. And

817
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 4: I keep thinking of, you know, the the idea like

818
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 4: what if some other civilization essentially sent out into the

819
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 4: ink their own kind of press junket or pitch pack

820
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 4: about themselves, because that's what the humans did. They're like, hey,

821
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 4: this is here's some music we like. We made this

822
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 4: out of gold. That's a big deal for us.

823
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 6: Here's some math that we're into, and here are pictures

824
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 6: of what we look like naked.

825
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 3: What are you up to?

826
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 2: What are you guys doing?

827
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,439
Speaker 3: Do you guys want to hang out?

828
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 4: Our schedule is pretty open unless we blow ourselves up.

829
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 2: So I hope there's.

830
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 3: Something like that.

831
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 4: I think that idea of the time capsule or the

832
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 4: scrapbook of a civilization is neat even though you know,

833
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 4: obviously things like three Body Problem and Dark Forest theory

834
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 4: argue that the mission of any other civilization would be

835
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 4: classic game theory or prisoner's dilemma, and that they would

836
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 4: assume the safest thing to do would be to destroy you.

837
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

838
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: With that, But.

839
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the good thing. If three I Atlas, let's say,

840
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 2: weirdest case scenario, three at Atlas changes its trajectory and

841
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 2: slingshots itself directly towards Earth to intercept Earth at some point,

842
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 2: and that wouldn't be great. The good thing is there's

843
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 2: some people on the case. The International Asteroid Warning Network

844
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 2: is officially starting a campaign to observe the object as

845
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: much as possible and use basically its techniques to get

846
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 2: all of the asymmetric measurements, all the things that you

847
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 2: will use to track this object. They're going to use

848
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 2: that in tracking other potential threats of like asteroids, right

849
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 2: and things that we know will be threat at some

850
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 2: point to Earth. We just haven't seen the right one

851
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: yet that's going to actually impact Earth and cause some

852
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 2: kind of devastation the way the dinosaurs experienced, because that

853
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: is an inevitability. That's not a thing that could happen,

854
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 2: it's something that will happen. So at least we've got

855
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 2: some very intelligent human beings who know how to use

856
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 2: crazy sophisticated machinery to observe this relatively small thing out

857
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 2: there in the ink, and we'll be able to use

858
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 2: that information and those techniques to measure other ones to

859
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 2: protect us. Hopefully. It's a pretty cool campaign. You're allowed

860
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 2: to join in as a citizen. By the way. You

861
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: can look up the International Asteroid Warning Network and you

862
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 2: can download stuff you can join in, you can sign up,

863
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 2: you can even join on November tenth, just a couple

864
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 2: of days from now, a workshop that they're putting on,

865
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 2: which is pretty cool. So if you're into that kind

866
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 2: of stuff, guys, I think that might be it. There's

867
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 2: a weird thing that happened with some recis monkeys out

868
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 2: of two Lane University and the TWU Lane National Biomedical

869
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 2: Research Center and an overturned truck and a bunch of

870
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 2: racist monkeys that got out that at least according to

871
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 2: the stories on October twenty eighth, or that these monkeys

872
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: were infected with both COVID and hepatitis SEA.

873
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 4: And anti Simmy in propaganda.

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Speaker 2: I say, well, it was really weird because it was

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Speaker 2: the truck driver that was like, you, guys, sheriff, you

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Speaker 2: gotta get these things. They were super dangerous, they got

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Speaker 2: HEPCI in COVID, you gotta take them out and they're aggressive.

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Speaker 3: Yes, officer, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They're dangerous, is what he said. So then the sheriff

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Speaker 2: to where I was like, oh, okay, we're on it.

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Speaker 2: Let's go monkey hunting. I guess in Mississippi. So that

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Speaker 2: it happened in Mississippi, by the way, So then they

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Speaker 2: rounded up most of them. There was still one at

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Speaker 2: large last time I saw the reporting on the twenty ninth.

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Speaker 2: But then twu Lane University came forward with the statement

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Speaker 2: and said, oh no, these were not dangerous at all.

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Speaker 2: They weren't in affected with anything. We were holding them

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Speaker 2: for another entity, is what they said. They belonged to

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Speaker 2: another entity and they weren't part of the research department

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Speaker 2: doing these scary things. Here's the full statement. Non Human

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Speaker 2: primates at the Tulane National Biomedical Research Center are provided

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Speaker 2: to other research organizations to advance scientific discovery. The primates

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Speaker 2: in question belong to another entity and are not infectious.

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Speaker 2: We are actively collaborating with local authorities and we'll send

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Speaker 2: a team of animal care experts to assist as needed. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but anyway, just strange, right, truck crashes, potentially monkeys with

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Speaker 2: COVID get out, and then all this hubbub and then

898
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: everybody says, no, it's fine, everything's cool, no infectious monkeys,

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Speaker 2: but they end up getting put down anyway.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I immediately think of the movie Outbreak.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know, I also think of you know,

902
00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 4: I have such a soft spot for underdogs, you know,

903
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Speaker 4: the cows that escape the farms. The last monkey here.

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Speaker 4: So man, whatever your name is, run free, get out there.

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Speaker 4: And I'm sorry that the humans said you had hepsi

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Speaker 4: in COVID.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not cool, man. Just one last thing you

908
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 2: can look up if you want to. You look up

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Speaker 2: CNN White House Fires Commission charged with advising the President

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Speaker 2: on design as the president pushes construction projects. The one

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Speaker 2: thing I noticed in this, and it's not a huge deal,

912
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Speaker 2: just look at the arch that is proposed to be

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Speaker 2: built there. Just look at it really closely, and then

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Speaker 2: go to Wikipedia or wherever not Grockipedia. Go to Wikipedia

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Speaker 2: and look at historical images of proposed buildings and let's

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Speaker 2: say the late mid to late nineteen thirties.

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Speaker 3: Just gonna leave that one right there for it.

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Speaker 2: Just look at it. It doesn't mean anything.

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Speaker 3: Just look at it.

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