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Speaker 1: Were very happy to welcome to the show now. Tom Stringfeld,

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Speaker 1: chief investment officer at Frost Investment Advisors with eleven point

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Speaker 1: one billion dollars of assets under management across all asset classes,

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Speaker 1: So Tom, thanks for stoff by. Appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 1: So tell us a little bit more about Frost Investment

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Speaker 1: Advisors UM and your your five star rated fund. We'll do.

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Speaker 1: Frost is a Texas BACE company, Our parent is Frost Bank.

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Speaker 1: Our investment advisor was fun out of the Wealth Advisor

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Speaker 1: We've since grown to eleven billion. We've launched a number

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Speaker 1: of mutual funds, some institutionals, some retail class. Uh. You

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Speaker 1: You know, the transportation stocks have have been interesting. Uh.

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Speaker 1: zeitgeists coming from Texas from San Antonio. Well, I would

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