1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,800 Speaker 1: Hello, is your favorite sports thunk here. 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 2: Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, Nightcap doesn't happen without you, 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: so please subscribe or you're gonna make o JO crime. 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: We got to get into. 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: The shocking turn of events involving Max Crosby o Jo 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: Raiders broke the news that the trade had sending Max 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: Crosby to the Baltimore Ravens for two first round draft 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: picks had been rescinded. Raiders alleged in a statement that 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: the Ravens had backed out of the agreement reached four 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: days earlier. It was then reported that medical concerns arose 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 2: doing Cosby's physical and were a catalyst for the dissolution 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: of the deal. Ravens GM Eric DaCosta said today nobody 14 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: is more upset than him, gutted by it actually big 15 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: regret for me, but we will move forward as the 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: football team. The Costa added that losing center Tyler lending 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: Baum to the Raiders and the Ravens beginning envision of 18 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: possibility of paying Osby with Henderson, excuse me, with Hendrix, 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: whom the team signed today. But Crosby's medical outlook prevented 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: the possibility from materializing. Jane Slater reported that the Ravens 21 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 2: considered reading negotiating of the Crosby trayed to account for 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: the team's discomfort with the Edge Russians prognosis. Ultimately, however, 23 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 2: the team opted to withdraw from the deal entirely. Oh Joe, 24 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: we don't normally see this now. The Ravens have been 25 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: in a situation where, if I remember correctly, the brock marry, 26 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: they really liked him being at the yolda issue Michael 27 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: Brockers had a neat issue and they rescinded. They rescinded 28 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 2: the deal that was on the table. But you're talking 29 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: about a Max Crosby have a meniscus injury. Reports are 30 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: that he had been dealing with this all year. This 31 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: happened and started bothering in the off season. He played 32 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: through it. He ended up having surgery, and the type 33 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: of her surgery that he has that's somewhere between the 34 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: three and a six months month recovery time. And I 35 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: don't know if it's a lateral meniscus or meteor maniscus, 36 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: but that is a loan because he had it torn 37 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: and I guess he had it repaired. If what the 38 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: report's true, that's a big timetable that puts him on 39 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: to be recovered probably around Yes, oh Joe. Training camp 40 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: starts about six weeks later in late July, so who knows. 41 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: Like I said, could be early June, could be late June. 42 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: But still he would have three weeks and I'm sure 43 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: he'd be a liberty participant and you kind of build 44 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: him up and getting ready to go come September. When 45 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: you heard that the trade for Max Prosby had been rescinded, 46 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: what did you think? And you're like, Okay, yeah, I've 47 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: never seen anything like that. 48 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 3: I've never seen anything like that, especially a player like 49 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: Mac Crosby that's an impact player that makes your team 50 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: exponentially better right away, just his presidence alone and the 51 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: fact that they rescinded it. I didn't know what was 52 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: going on. The first thing that dawned on me, well, 53 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 3: maybe he failed this physical. Obviously that that's the only 54 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 3: thing I could think of, because I. 55 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 4: Know a player, and a player himself wouldn't. 56 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: Say, you know what, out of want to be here, 57 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 3: and he lets the team knows he doesn't. He rather 58 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: wishes not to not to be here. But once that 59 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 3: did happen, I thought about it well, understanding that they. 60 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 4: Knew he had a knee issue, they knew about they 61 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 4: had knee surgery, he knew about the knee surgery. I mean, 62 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna I'm confused. What did you what 63 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 4: did you expect the physicals to look like? Obviously he's rehabbed, 64 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 4: Obviously he's recovering. He would probably be ready in time 65 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 4: for a football season to play. 66 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 3: And the fact that he played on it and had 67 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: ten plus sacks or maybe maybe ten sacks this season 68 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 3: and he was. 69 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 4: Forced to sit out the last the last two games 70 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 4: of the season, I think it would be okay. He 71 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 4: would recover. So I'm confused on why they chose to 72 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 4: do this. 73 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: Why they chose, you know, to rescind, to rescind him 74 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 3: him being there. 75 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 4: It makes no sense to me. 76 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 3: And I like the fact that they were going to 77 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: try to pair Henderson and Crosby together. 78 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 4: Hell that they would have been held on wheels they 79 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 4: were able to pull that off. 80 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you really look at it, Henderson 81 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: might be a better pure pass rusher. But overall, I 82 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: think because Crosby plays the run so much, better than Henderson. 83 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: I think he gives them a dynamic, and you know, 84 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: you got to have somebody that can set the edge, 85 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 2: and Max Crosby can set the edge. But he could 86 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: also become buried and abrupt this pressure your quarterback and 87 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: get to your quarterback. Henderson we've seen over the last 88 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: couple of years in which he wasn't injured. You see 89 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: the numbers that he's put up. He as a pure 90 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 2: pass rusher. Drafted by the New Orleans Saints. It ended 91 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: up going to became a free agency and go to 92 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 2: Cincinnati and played extremely well. Reports are that he probably 93 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: took a little less money to go to Baltimore, but 94 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: I think there were some hard feelings. He's like, you 95 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 2: had years to get this done, not all of a 96 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: sudden you want me because I could potentially be going 97 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: to a division rival. Oh Joe, look, I agree with 98 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: you and everything that you said. They knew he had surgery, 99 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: and maybe you looking at it because you look at 100 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 2: it long term, because you got Max Crosby. I think 101 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 2: you're one hundred and something million dollars on that contract. Now, 102 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, I could be and chat. Forgive me. 103 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 2: If I'm miss speaking, I think this is the only 104 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: year in which he's had he has guaranteed money of 105 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: the contract. So now I'm looking at it O yoe 106 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 2: and he's only twenty nine. Okay, yes he had he 107 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: had surgery on the knee. But what doctors can see 108 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: is that what you to the neket untrained I can't 109 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: see is degeneration. Now it looks good this year, but 110 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: what happens next year? And as we move on, now 111 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: you're talking about somebody that dealing with degeneration and the 112 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: need did you so? I got an author a very 113 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: authoritic right knee, same thing with the left knee, and 114 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: I got basically bone on bone on the lateral side, 115 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 2: which is the outside, and I'm damned near bone on 116 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: bone on the inside, which is the medium the biscuits. 117 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 2: And what has happened is I've gotten older. Stuff start 118 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: to happen. This is what and you see it with 119 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: a lot of old people at show that didn't play sports. 120 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: If I get older and cartlye starts to dissipate and 121 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: you get that bone on bone. I'm fortunate enough to 122 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 2: be in a situation where I can afford, you know, 123 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,239 Speaker 2: great medical care, and I don't have all these hang ups, 124 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: I can go, Okay, what's going on now? Insurance company 125 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: wouldn't take care of whatever I had going on, so 126 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 2: I had to pay for my own in mind, no problem. 127 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: And then I go to the one doctor. He says, okay, 128 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: you can do X Y and Z. I go come 129 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: to the doctor out here. I'm at curling job and 130 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: go to the doctor that did my helps and he 131 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: looks at him like, well. 132 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: You don't let me explain it to you. It's X, 133 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: Y and Z so forth the soon. 134 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: But you know you got degeneration, degenerative needs and eventually, hey, 135 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 2: I'm not telling you anything that you didn't already know, 136 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to have a knee replacement, if not one, 137 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: probably both of your needs. But the right need that 138 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 2: I'm looking at now, you're gonna have to. So I 139 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: think that's what the Ravens doctors are looking at. Is 140 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 2: that Okay, yeah, it's healing up properly, but we see 141 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: some degeneration in this knee. And that's never good because 142 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: you know, to be on the hook for a need 143 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: that could be nothing, not just me speculating. Now. I 144 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 2: haven't talk to anybody, but I'm saying, as a doctor, 145 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: you're probably looking at as Ravens like, hold on now 146 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: in order for this to make sense to us, O, Joe, 147 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: because you got to realize what we'll we're giving up. 148 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 2: Were giving up the number fourteen pick this year, and 149 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 2: who knows what that pick. You hope that if the 150 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: trade would have gone through, we so we're thirty two. 151 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: Ideally with thirty two. If we give up a thirty 152 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: two pick next year, you don't mean, no, Joe, we 153 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: weren't Super Bowl most definitely thirty one. That means we 154 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: were in the Super honestly, thirty oh Joe, we're even 155 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: the championship. 156 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: This is whatever is what I'm thinking about. You think 157 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 3: about a player that's twenty nine years old. Twenty nine 158 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: years old, yes, a player like Matt Crosby that's a distructor. 159 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: He's been in the NFL for a few years. And 160 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: if you give, if you take an MRI, if you 161 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 3: do it, am I of all the players that have eight, nine, 162 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: or ten, ten years or more, I'm sure there's something 163 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: alarming when everybody's MRI. If you look at it, it 164 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: always is. Nobody is one hundred percent healthy. Everyone has issues. 165 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: Whatever it may be. I just know the mac Crossey 166 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 3: that we saw that was on the field last year. 167 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: But the Las Vegas Raiders was an impact player and 168 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 3: he made a difference every time he was out there, 169 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: even doing a losing effort, he was still a disruptor. 170 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: He still was able to set their EDGs. He was 171 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: still able to disrupt the disrupt the past. Depending on 172 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: who they were playing, it really didn't matter. No one 173 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: can stop him. You can only hope to contain a 174 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: player like Max. So to let him go because of 175 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: what you see, you know, in an MRI when he 176 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: was already hurt last year and he's recovering, he has 177 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 3: rehab and you doctors have the resources to get him 178 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: as healthy as possible. And you know what you get 179 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 3: with an almost healthy or even ninety ninety five percent 180 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: Max Crosby, and you let him go and and understanding 181 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 3: what he can do for your team and making your 182 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 3: team exponentially better, you know, especially if you're paying with Henderson. 183 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, 184 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 3: I don't see Listen, it's a business decision. 185 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 4: On their part. 186 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: I just understand as great as he is, even with 187 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: a messed up knee, where he's gonna recover, where he's 188 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 3: gonna rehab. There's no way I I sent him back 189 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: and it. But obviously I listen, I don't own I 190 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: don't own the god damn Ravens. 191 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 4: It ain't my decision. 192 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 2: You ain't got one hundred plus billion dollars. I mean, look, 193 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 2: but here's the thing, O Joe. What if I told 194 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 2: you can get a very similar player Hold up, and 195 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: this is what they do, O Joe. What if I 196 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: told you I could get you a similar house for 197 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: about sixty seven million dollars cheaper, The payments are be 198 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: cheaper monthly, pretty much the same house, maybe a five 199 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: hundred square foot different. But I'm but but it's gonna 200 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: be probably over the course of it, I probably say 201 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 2: you about twenty eight million dollars. But I'm gonna get 202 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 2: you a very similar house right there, an two acre lot, 203 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 2: nice size, infinity pool, probably about twelve thousand square feet, 204 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: seven baths, full baths, you know, two half baths, you know, 205 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: eight bedrooms, gorgeous, a theater. If I told you I 206 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: can get you a similar house to the one that 207 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: you really love, but I'm gonna save you twenty eight 208 00:09:55,520 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: million dollars. Would you be interested? And and you're not 209 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: gonna have to give up those two first round picks. 210 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 4: You could, you could, you could, But I'm in the now. 211 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 4: Right now, I'm in the now. I'm not I'm not 212 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 4: worried about down and down the road. 213 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 3: I'm trying to if I'm playing poker, I'm putting all 214 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 3: the cars on the table. I'm putting all the cars 215 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 3: on the table, and I'm trusting my I'm trusting my 216 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: doctors to an extent because i. 217 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 4: Want Max Froby here. 218 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: You got to I. 219 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 4: Want Max Crosby here. 220 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 3: We got goddamn we got Trey Henderson in the building 221 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: when negotiating this contract. We have Max in the building. 222 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: I'm taking all my cards and I'm putting on the table. 223 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 4: I'm out. I'm out. 224 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. 225 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 4: I'm taking the gamble. I'm taking a gamble. 226 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: I'm not taking a gamble with two first round picks. 227 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 2: If I can get them at a lower rate, I 228 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: would you talk about I'm not taking you talking. 229 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 4: About two first round picks. You don't know what you're getting. 230 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 4: There's no there's no telling these two first round picks 231 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 4: and coming to make any goddamn difference. 232 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: But what if it's need doesn't hold up this year? 233 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: What if that need is bad? And then I'm strucking? 234 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: What if that need is like Dante Colepepper's me? 235 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: Then what do I do? 236 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: How did he look before they forced him? 237 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: How did Dante Cole? 238 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 4: We're not talking about Dante Copo. Were talking about Max Krosny, 239 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 4: the one that played all CEDU. 240 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: You got him based on the medicals, o Cho. He 241 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: was hurt all season long. 242 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 4: He ain't gave you ten sacks. What are we talking about? 243 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: No, he didn't. He gave They made himself out the 244 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: last Sea names. 245 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 2: If you go back and look at it, look at 246 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: the numbers Trey Henderson versus Max Crosley twenty nineteen to 247 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 2: where they are now, Who has more sacks? Who has 248 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: a high pressure rate? 249 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 4: I don't have it in front of me, and I 250 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 4: can get Trey Henderson. 251 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 2: I can get Trey hendricks from for about five to 252 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: seven million dollars a year cheaper, and I don't have 253 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 2: to give up ish so I can get Ojo. I 254 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: can get you in this house and you don't have 255 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 2: to put it down. 256 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: Pay. 257 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 3: I understand what you're saying, unc But I understand what 258 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 3: you're saying, but I'm looking at it. I'm looking at 259 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 3: it from a different standpoint as a team, as an organization, 260 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 3: as a team, the organization that continues to miss in 261 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: the first round, as a team in the organization that 262 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: was horrible on defense last year, especially. 263 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 4: At the beginning of the season. 264 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 3: How how bad are backing is or was you know, 265 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 3: constantly getting beat? 266 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 4: How can I make a difference. I'm gambling, this is 267 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 4: this is what this. 268 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: Is what it's all about. 269 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: Oh, like Trey Henderson you make it seem like Trey 270 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 2: Henderson is a bomb. 271 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: The man had thirty five sacks. 272 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 4: I'm not calling him a bum. You know I wouldn't 273 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 4: do that. I'm just saying he had to what I'm saying. 274 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not saying you are, but I'm saying 275 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: you making it seem like Max Crosby is just exponentially 276 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 2: Hold on, this is not a Miles Gads. If you're 277 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: talking about Miles Gad, Okay, we have a conversation because 278 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: that's a two time defensial Player of the Year and 279 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 2: the guy that has like one hundred Like. 280 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 4: Hey, but you mean to tell you mean to tell 281 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 4: me I get. I get the best of both worlds. 282 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 4: I get the best of both worlds. 283 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: Now, on on one hand, I have a player who's injured, 284 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 3: who just had surgery. But then I understand what I 285 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 3: get based off the small samples of how I've seen 286 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 3: him in Las Vegas and what he's done on an 287 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: injured knee. 288 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 4: I'm trusting the I'm trusting the process. I'm trusting the doctors. 289 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 4: I'm trusting rehabit. 290 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: I'm trusting all your chance to trust doctors. 291 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: So why do you have the Why do you have 292 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 2: those doctors on payroll if you're not gonna trust them 293 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: to a properly evaluate players that are coming in that 294 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to spend one hundred plus million dollars 295 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 2: and give up first round pick this year, which is 296 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: number fourteen, and next year's first rounder for a first rounder. 297 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: I can understand if it's thirty two, no problem. That 298 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: means who won the Super Bowl? 299 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: But but and I get it. 300 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: Drew Brees had a very simpler situation. Miami Dolphin flucked 301 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 2: his shoulder on the physical. He goes to New Orleans and. 302 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 4: Now the same thing it happened, and it ain't same 303 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 4: it could be. It could same thing can happened, you 304 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 4: know what, and and and and for them. 305 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: Causing this mess. This, This is what I'm hoping. This 306 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 3: is what I'm hoping. I'm not a crystal ball. But 307 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 3: most of the time since we've been on the show, 308 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: you know, sometimes I've been right. I've been writing not 309 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 3: name for this ninety eight percent of the time when 310 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 3: I talk about players going certain places and it's come 311 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 3: to fruition. 312 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 4: You know what would be a funny thing that the 313 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 4: bank could do? You know, it would be a funny 314 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 4: thing that the bank could do. 315 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 3: The baby get me, they can go get Mac Croby. 316 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 3: They could take that chance. They can trust in our doctors, 317 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 3: they can trust in the rehab process and hoping he's back, 318 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 3: and knowing even with a non healthy Mac Crosby, we 319 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 3: saw what he did last year. We saw what he 320 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 3: did last year where the Raiders forced him to sit 321 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: those last two games out. I would love for it 322 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: to happen. I would I would love for it to happen. 323 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: But the thing is, now you're saying I can get 324 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: Max Crosby. I don't have a problem. I have a 325 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: problem if the knee is as bad as the Ravens 326 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: doctor think it is. 327 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: We don't know, Tode. I'm an untrained out. You're untrained out. 328 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: But if it's as bad as the doctors and raven 329 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: the Ravens believe, it is, two first round pieces off 330 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: the table. Now he goes somewhere else, and I have 331 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: to give up a third round pick or a second 332 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: in a fifth round pick. Now that's a deal. But 333 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: to a first round picks, ain't gotta pay him thirty 334 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: three million dollars a year. 335 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 3: Come on, I hear you, I hear you, But but 336 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 3: but but I'm willing. 337 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 4: I'm willing to take the chance. I'm willing just like 338 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 4: owners do all the time. They take chance. 339 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: You get. 340 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 4: You have to think about though a chat. Stay with 341 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 4: me real quick. 342 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 3: You have to think opportunities like this to get a 343 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 3: player that can change the direction of your franchise, especially defensively. 344 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 3: Don't come around it often. He don't come around it often. 345 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: Even with the Limp and Crosby. He makes a difference. 346 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 3: We have to understand who were talking about. Now we're 347 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 3: not just talking about just the guy. We ain't talking 348 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 3: about the jag. 349 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no health. 350 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 3: About So that's that's why the top five, That's why 351 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 3: I would be a little hesitant. 352 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 4: Okay, we got a little hiccup. Okay, we understand he 353 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 4: had surgery, you know, and I don't know. I don't know. 354 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 4: I'm not sure I understand how you feel on it. 355 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 4: I'm curious. 356 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 3: I don't I don't have my chat up. I'm I'm 357 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 3: curious to see what the chat thinks about it. But 358 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 3: I will take that chance. 359 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: I think they're going I think they're back and forth 360 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: on yo. Now, it could it could be a total situation. 361 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 4: Like this. 362 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: By of course, like damn, we gave up two first 363 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: round picks, number fourteenth pick this year. We don't know 364 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 2: what twenty seven is gonna be. We're gonna have to 365 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: pay him somewhere thirty two thirty three, thirty four million 366 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: dollars a year and the knee situation. Or we can 367 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: go get Trey Hendrickson, play him, pay him five to 368 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: seven million dollars cheaper per year, and I give him 369 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: many things. Oh, Joe, I can get you in his 370 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: house down payment. Yeah, and I'm gonna save you twenty 371 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: eight million dollars. So because hey, and the thing is, 372 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: you know a house, I'm saving you twenty eight million 373 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: dollars and you don't have to put no money down. 374 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: I hey, you play poker. I'm not. I'm not a gambler. 375 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 3: You know, you know I'm I'm I'm cheap, I'm financial celibate. 376 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 3: I'm financially celibate. But in this situation, there's certain situations 377 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 3: at the GM as an owner understanding how bad I was, 378 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 3: understanding where my weaknesses are, especially defensively, and. 379 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 4: It all started. 380 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 3: We talking about it all season goddamn long. Not only 381 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 3: was the back end bad. 382 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 4: Hell, they couldn't get they couldn't get no goddamn pressure, nobody. 383 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 4: This is one where I'm folding. 384 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 3: If I got a hand, I'm folding based on who 385 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 3: the player is regards with what that that? 386 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: No? Do you mean to you're gonna play the hand? 387 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: Fold me? You throw your cards? 388 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm throwing my cars in on crossby he 389 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 4: com come on, oh come. 390 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: On, no, if you can't throw your cards there, you 391 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: throw your cards there. 392 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 4: Oh oh. 393 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: So in other words, you saying you shove it, you go. 394 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 4: I'm going all in with with with with the surgery. 395 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 4: Whatever you forget. 396 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 3: Listen, if the costa is that his name the costa. Yeah, 397 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 3: I would listen to what the doctor say. Okay, what 398 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 3: this is what you see? Okay, you know what, I'm 399 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 3: taking a chance sold them anyway. I'm taking a chance 400 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 3: over the book. 401 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah I'm not. 402 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 2: I'm not so because anytime you know, you start getting 403 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 2: a hundred million, do you know you got to go 404 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 2: to the owner with that. So he's gonna ask, He's 405 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 2: gonna come in there, he's gonna want to sit down 406 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 2: with doctor currr. I know Leam Curll. She was, she 407 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 2: was the team doctor. She was there when I was 408 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: there bringing her in. What do you think, doc, Look, 409 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 2: I understand the player that he is, but it's risky. 410 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 3: I like, I like, I'm taking that risk. We ain't 411 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 3: talking about just anybody. We talked about the top five player. 412 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 4: At his position. That can change. Can you imagine Henderson 413 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 4: on one side, Crosby on another? 414 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 2: Like, before you go any further, Diana receive a reported 415 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 2: as part of the propos trays for Max Crosby. The 416 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: Ravens were also prepared to sign him to a revised 417 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: contract that would have paid him near the top of 418 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: past Rushers market. Max agent CJ. Leboard responded with two 419 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: words fake news. 420 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: Hmmm. 421 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: So everybody keeps saying that the goal, the objective was 422 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 2: to sign Rosby and Henderson. Max Crosby's agent said, basically, 423 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 2: that's not true. Uh, Crosby still could get traded, but 424 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 2: he ain't. They're not getting no first round on it. 425 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: They're not getting no first I don't believe they'll get 426 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: a first round on it now, O Joe. Now, because 427 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 2: here's the thing with the Raiders. The Raiders spent quarter of 428 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: a billion dollars bringing it, excuse me, new players because 429 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: they thought they were to have Crosby. 430 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: Number off the books. Yeah. 431 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 2: Now the question is do you rehabbing keeping or do 432 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,719 Speaker 2: you try do you try to move him on? I 433 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: don't I me personally, you're definitely not getting to first. 434 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 2: I don't believe you can get a first, but maybe 435 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: a second and a. 436 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 3: Fifth second, second, second, and the third, second and the 437 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 3: third second and third. Hey ms Brown, Mike Brown, I 438 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 3: know we got a lot of I know we got 439 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 3: a lot of Bengal fans in the chat. 440 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 4: Hey he coming to Cincinnati? On he could You're coming 441 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 4: to Cincinnati? Why not? Why not make it make sense? 442 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 4: And you know what I like. 443 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 3: I like the fact that the Ravens did this. I 444 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 3: like the fact that the Ravens played played this game, 445 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: you know, so basically they telling you how they feel 446 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 3: about you anyway. 447 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 4: So what better? What better message? What better message? 448 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 3: And then not only that, now you got a chip 449 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 3: on the shoulder, now you even pisted him off. 450 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: Uh. 451 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,239 Speaker 3: So that's how y'all feel. Okay, I'm gonna show you. 452 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 3: I'm gonna show you. And how can he get him back? 453 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 3: He can get him back by his play on the field. 454 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 4: You can get it. And that's the type of player is. 455 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 2: Do you think this hurts Baltimore's reputation around the league 456 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 2: to have a deal in place, because the deal is 457 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 2: not consummated until the player. Now he has to pass 458 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: that team that's trading for him. Doctors, physical, they have 459 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 2: to be okay with it. Do you think this hurts 460 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 2: the Ravens reputation because Friday is this For the most part, 461 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 2: the Ravens reputation has been perfect. 462 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: Christine, you think. 463 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 3: It absolutely not. It's still the Baltimore Ravens. It's still 464 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 3: it's still they still are who they are. 465 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: Uh. 466 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 3: When it comes to business, When it comes to money, 467 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 3: players are gonna go where they're wanted players are gonna 468 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 3: go where they're valued. If money talks, they will be 469 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 3: there now for for for for us, the talking heads 470 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 3: and those on the outside looking in, maybe we might 471 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 3: feel this situation might ruin their reputation. But when it 472 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 3: comes to business, when it comes to money, and when 473 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 3: it comes to it's time to get paid, and the 474 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 3: team is willing. 475 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: To pay you. 476 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 3: And if it happened to be the Baltimore Ravens and 477 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 3: Missus DaCosta and whoever else they going. 478 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: Right? Uh? 479 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 2: I agree with you, o Joe. I just think the 480 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 2: thing is it became you look at it like, damn 481 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: two first rounders. I don't think anybody else had that 482 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 2: kind of number. You hear, dallads had a first dinner sacut. 483 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: Uh you hear some teams have some other picks, but 484 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 2: nobody as to first. And but still even even even 485 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: first with a guy coming off surgery. See that's what 486 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 2: and I was telling you last year about Kirk cubbss. 487 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 2: I said, oh, Joe, you give it up a one 488 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty million dollars guaranteed for a guy that's 489 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 2: coming off achillis a quarterback that he wasn't mobile to 490 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 2: begin with and you draft the quarter and to exacerbate 491 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 2: the matter, you take a quarterback with the number eighth 492 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 2: overall pick. And so that's what that was. My concern 493 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: is that a guy that's coming if Max Crosby was 494 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: one hundred percent healthy, O Joe, he had no surgeries, 495 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 2: I think two I think two to one is fine, 496 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: but coming off the surgery, I'm a little more apprehensive 497 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 2: that I would be had he not been coming off 498 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: that surgery. I know, sometimes you gotta roll, you gotta 499 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 2: roll the dice. New Orleans was willing to roll the dice. 500 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: But here are the difference is with Drew Brees. Drew 501 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 2: Brees didn't cast you any compensation, and basically it was 502 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: a deal worth ten million dollars. We're talking about a 503 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 2: deal worth north of one hundred million in two first rounds. 504 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 4: Yes, I ate, I understand it. I know, I know 505 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 4: what you feel. 506 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 3: You but those for those two first round picks, they 507 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 3: ain't coming and making that kind of difference like Max, 508 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 3: and they ain't gonna make that kind of noise. If 509 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 3: you get mac Crosby out, they're healthy. 510 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: I just know. So if look he still could be there, oh. 511 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 3: He gonna be he's gonna be there, you know, right there, 512 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 3: he's gonna be a comingon airport. 513 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 4: I'm gonna pick him up. Don't worry about it. Yeah, 514 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 4: I'm gonna pick him up. Don't worry about it. 515 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: He Uh, would you be very it'd be very interesting, 516 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 2: don't you know you? I mean, that could happen. But 517 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 2: what if he goes to the Browns with Miles Gay? 518 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 4: Oh? 519 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 3: Hell no, come on man, hey, come on, man, come on, hey, 520 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 3: hey do that? Hey, don't don't don't do that. Don't 521 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 3: do that, don't do that. Hey, just a thought of that. 522 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 4: That's that's nasty work. That's nasty work. 523 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 2: Look, would I be surprised the Patriots get involved? Would 524 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 2: I be surprised if the Eagles get involved? 525 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: Uh? 526 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 2: If they're a situation where the Bears could become involved, 527 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 2: anybody that think they're close, if they are pass rushing away? 528 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, we know two first of off the table, 529 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 2: I'm not so sure a first if on the table, 530 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 2: how do we get a deal done with? How do 531 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: we get a deal done between you and I? Max 532 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 2: from Max Crosby, Ojo, you said you be willing to 533 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,239 Speaker 2: give for two and the three? Okay, maybe a two 534 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 2: under three this year and and a fourth or a 535 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: fifth according to how he plays. The fifth goes to 536 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: a fourth if he gets double digit sacks X, Y 537 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 2: and Z. But don't be surprised if somebody like, ah, man, 538 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 2: how they let the Eagles get this man? How they 539 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 2: let the Patriots get this man? I mean because I 540 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 2: saw the Patriots. They let Anthony Jennings go. Anthony Jennings go. 541 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: Good pass Russia, solid pass rushing, not great, but solid. 542 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: Set the edge, you know, the one thing that the 543 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: Patriots linebackers can do is set the edge. The big 544 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 2: guy I set the edge great against the run and 545 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 2: pressure a little bit. So now you get him, and 546 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: you get Chase On and you get Milton Williams. Got something, 547 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 2: or you pair him with it with the Bears, you 548 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 2: got something. So it's a Detroit because you hear somebody 549 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 2: was looking at I think whether it the Patriots or 550 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: the Eagles, was looking at Grinnard from Minnesota Vikings. He looked. 551 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 2: You can never have enough pass rushers. That's one thing 552 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: you can never have. Just like past Catcher, you can't 553 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 2: have enough of them. They're hard to come by. 554 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: That is an art form. 555 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:47,239 Speaker 2: So Max is like he said, he doctor Neil La 556 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 2: Trosh at Curland Joe performed the surgery. He says he's 557 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 2: tracking quite well. But at the end of the day, 558 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 2: I don't think he's That's what he's supposed to say. Uh. 559 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 2: I think you know everybody saying, the agent saying what 560 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 2: he's supposed to say, the doctor that performed the surgery 561 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 2: saying what he's supposed to say. But at the end 562 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 2: of the day, the Ravens and their medical staff have 563 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 2: to feel comfortable enough when they go to Steve Bashatti 564 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 2: because Steve Bashatt is gonna be cutting the check and 565 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 2: nextcess of probably one hundred million dollars thirty three plus 566 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 2: million dollars this year is guaranteed, no guaranteed money on 567 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboy head team trainer Daniel Cooper was instrumental 568 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 2: in the Ravens backing out of the trade. Cooper, who's 569 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 2: a NIE specialist. Guess what, Ojo, He did the Patrick 570 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 2: Mahone surgery. Normally he does surgeries that's really really complicated, 571 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 2: the Patrick Mahone surgery. You remember Jaylen Smith. He signed 572 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 2: up on the Jalen Smith Remember. 573 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: A linebacker, Yeah, yep. 574 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 2: Malick neighbors. He reviewed Crosby's recent niche surgery m Iri 575 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 2: I and Dean. It too risky a man, now you're 576 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: talking about you're talking about because here's the thing, o Joe. 577 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 2: When you know what you're like, the kind of money 578 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: that these teams have, they're sending you to the. 579 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: Best of the best. 580 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: Whatever what the spine, gut a head, got a foot, 581 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 2: got a gotta back, whatever it is, you going to 582 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 2: the best. You ain't going to if you got something 583 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 2: going on. They can't figure it out. They send the ass, 584 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 2: John Hopkins, They sending your ass to the Mayo Clintic. 585 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 2: They sending you to M. D Anderson. They sending you 586 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 2: to the Cleveland Clintic. They sending you to the best. 587 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: Of the best. 588 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: And and they's like, that's why they command, that's why 589 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: they get the big bucks. That's why they get the 590 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 2: big bucks. And most of the guys. You going to 591 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 2: the Courland job Office and you look up there on 592 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 2: them jerseys on the wall. You see Aaron Donald, you 593 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: see Curtin Clinton, Kirkshaw, you see Verlander, you see a 594 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 2: Cooper Club and you see if it's somebody Russell Westbrook. 595 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 2: You see those Jerseys on the wall. Thanks, doc, gave 596 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 2: you my career back, got my life back. 597 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 1: You understand, I got you. 598 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 4: I just see them doctors. They man let me, you 599 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 4: know see, young man, I'm hot. B I'm hot. I'm hot. 600 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm hot. Ain't but now y'all, now you guys might 601 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: be your player. 602 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 3: I just don't like that, you know how the doctors 603 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 3: to me, it almost seems like, you know not other 604 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 3: doctors from other teams are speaking out about it and 605 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 3: and speaking about the knee, and like it's decreasing its 606 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 3: value and and and what he can get and what 607 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 3: is worth is I hate that. I don't like the 608 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 3: fact that there's diminishing. You know this, this young fellow 609 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 3: who had who had rehab, who had surgery and it 610 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 3: is trying to do everything he can to get himself 611 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 3: back into the playing shape and plan form. And now 612 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: we got all these doctors and I just that's. 613 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: What they do with you. 614 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: I mean teams like if you got a backhandury, more 615 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 2: time than not, doctor Watkins is gonna do it to 616 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: do the surgery. If you got problems, you're going to 617 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 2: the guys. I think it's in Charlotte. Hey, they guy, 618 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: they pay these guys. They put these guys on retainer, 619 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: and they pay these guys on lot of money. You 620 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: mess up, they're gonna fire your ass. They will fire you. 621 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: Here's a reason why doctor andrews. 622 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 3: She would happen with the dofhe right with Drew Brees. Now, 623 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 3: this could be the same thing they said. Oh no, 624 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 3: they said they stood away from Drew. They and look 625 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 3: what he turned out to be. This could this could 626 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: this could possibly be. I'm just saying now I understand 627 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 3: what the doctor is saying. 628 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: It couldn't understand. 629 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 4: These doctors know they get paid the big bucks. Everybody 630 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 4: heals differently. Now what you see might not be the 631 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 4: way or the outcome, and what you think based on 632 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 4: what you see as a doctor, it might not affect them. 633 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 2: Again again, Mike bass Crosby tweeted, everything happens for a reason. 634 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 2: Believe nothing you hear in half of what you see. 635 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 2: I'm a raider. I'm back run that ish damn me personally, 636 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: I think there's a greater chance he's on some other 637 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 2: roster Eagles, Uh, Bingos, the Patriots, Chicago. 638 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: I think there's a greater chance he's on run of 639 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: those rosters. 640 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 2: As as opposed to state now he could, he could, 641 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: he could. 642 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you what my grandma's telling me a 643 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 4: long time. 644 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: What you tell me? 645 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 3: Why when you speak, you got to understand that the 646 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,479 Speaker 3: tongue is powerful and you gotta speak things into existence. 647 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: The tongue. 648 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 4: You know, and and and today you know? 649 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: Oh you finished? He tried to speak. 650 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 4: Hey, hey man, but by the power is invested in me. 651 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 4: I'm I'm hoping that. 652 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 3: Brother Cosby, hell, he might be watching the show. Come 653 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 3: on down here to Cincinnati. 654 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 4: Man, we we We're gonna take good care of you. Huh. 655 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 4: Hell you can have my guy, damn needs I don't 656 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 4: need him no more ship. 657 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: Come on, that's what that's what you. 658 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 4: Yes, he got he got a chance. 659 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: What if what if? What if Cleveland jump in on it? 660 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 3: Nah that that ain't gonna have. And they got they 661 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 3: got brother Miles. They they got brother Miles. 662 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: Just imagine him and Miles on what he on one side. 663 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 3: Of mind, they have too many pieces they need to 664 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 3: pay on the offensive side of the ball. They don't 665 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 3: need to they don't need to worry about nothing else. 666 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 4: Defense. 667 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 2: It seemed like they're going to the draft because they 668 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: damn you don't haven't done a whole lot. 669 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's quiet over there. 670 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: It's quite over there. 671 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 4: Now. 672 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 2: It could be a situation where I'm thinking, Philly, hey man, 673 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 2: a Patriots, what y'all want? What y'all gonna give a 674 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 2: j that the reports are they're holding study sturdy on. 675 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: The first round? 676 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't. I don't see what. 677 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: Doesn't seem to be Know what's biting on that? 678 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 4: You're not gonna bite on it? I mean, I'm we 679 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 4: know what he is, we know what he can do. 680 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 4: We know what he is, we know what he can do. 681 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 3: Not too long ago, he was just the top five 682 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 3: receiver in NFL based on the production. Now the production 683 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 3: wasn't the same. We know why the productions weren't the same. 684 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 3: That's neither here nor there. We don't need to get 685 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 3: into that. We have a discourse on that. You know, 686 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 3: first round paid for a brown. 687 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 4: What do we talk about? It makes is that much 688 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 4: better for him? 689 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 3: Romeo Dobbs Romeo Dobbs went to the Patriots. 690 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: Yes, I think the thing is. Look, it seemed like 691 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: Cleveland's loading up on Lineman. 692 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 2: I know they got they got, Yes Ofen's the Lima 693 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 2: Elkin Jenkins. I think they got another guy from Green Bay. 694 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 2: That seems to be what they're doing, O Joe. They 695 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 2: haven't really gotten the skilled position players we know in 696 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 2: Joe COO's leaving and we feel that they need Look, 697 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 2: they got Harold Fanning, who had a fabulous morning season. 698 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 2: I think they need some help. I think they need 699 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 2: some receiver help. I think they need a study receiver. 700 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: Now. 701 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 2: I don't know if AJ wants to go there, but 702 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 2: that would be a great place. Uh, You're gonna get targets. 703 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 2: They might be inconsistent because until your door growth and matures, 704 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 2: until that position or Andrew Barry says that, look, we're 705 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 2: gonna put this thing up, and it might be between 706 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 2: Shador and uh uh Watson Sean Watson. 707 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:01,719 Speaker 1: I don't know. 708 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 2: But dealing with Crosby, I think I see both sides 709 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 2: of the prison. I see what you're seeing. You said, Hey, 710 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: k he's been so good man. Hey, I'm willing to 711 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: shove all in. I'm gonna go all in. I understand 712 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 2: the risks that are that is involved, but I'm willing 713 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 2: to absorb those risks to get a player of Max Crosby. 714 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 2: I also understand the Ravens said, man, that's an awful 715 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 2: lot of money, and we got to give up to 716 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 2: first round picks for a player that our team staff, 717 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 2: our medical staff is saying, Heather degenerate. Need I see 718 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 2: both sides of the equations. I'm glad. I'm glad see 719 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 2: I want easy decisions. I won't I want. I want 720 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 2: Lebron James coming out. Yep I got him. I want 721 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 2: I won't shot coming out, yep I got him. I 722 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 2: want Tim Dunkey coming out, yep I got him. I 723 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 2: want to easy o Joe Man, you know what, Matthew 724 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 2: Stafford coming out? I got Stafford. I got your way. 725 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 2: I want to ease it like that, Ojoe. I don't 726 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 2: want to have like damn. 727 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 4: That's that's the part of the game. 728 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 2: That's the right, that's right, Jamarcas, JaMarcus Russell or or 729 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 2: Calvin Johnson. I wanted Peyton Manning or or or Ryan Lee. 730 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 2: I don't want it like that. I want to slam 731 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 2: dunk that. I want, hey, oh, Jo, I want. I 732 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 2: don't even want to pre throw. I want to slam dunk. 733 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 2: I won't shot, I won't dunk it. 734 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 4: I want Lebron. 735 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 2: I won't Stafford. I want l way, I want it, 736 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 2: I want it easy. And but this is that's why 737 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 2: you make your big bucks. I mean, everybody talking about 738 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:38,720 Speaker 2: Oh it's either it's eating boom boom boom boom boom. 739 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 2: Speaking to the ALC North when John Jenkins says new 740 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 2: Brown head coach Todd Munkin has been a refreshing surprise. 741 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: Oh yo, let's take a listen to past years. Have 742 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 1: you heard from your new head coach Todd munkeet yet. 743 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 4: Bro have and Bro, honestly, like it's not what I 744 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 4: thought it would have been, Like. 745 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: What a good way. 746 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 5: I thought he was going to be like more so 747 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 5: like because my past coach Bro, he was like really 748 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 5: even killed Bro, like super quiet. I thought I was 749 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 5: going to get that from coach Monkey. But it wasn't that. 750 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 5: Like he was like a real players coach, Bro, like 751 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 5: you know, like gimme a hug like all that. 752 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: Bro. 753 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 5: So he was just super communicative of what he wanted 754 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 5: from the team, what his goal is, what his objective is, 755 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 5: what he want to come in and do, And you 756 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 5: know he knows exactly what he wants and he has 757 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 5: a vision. And I think that's what's important as a 758 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,959 Speaker 5: head coach and especially being vocal about it too. 759 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 1: I think that's what matters. 760 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 4: I respect to. 761 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, could just be perceived as he shot. 762 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it's a shot at. Everyone has their 763 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 3: coaching styles, everyone has their approach and how they how 764 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 3: they talk to players. Uh, Todd Munkin probably is the 765 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 3: players coach. Maybe he has a different energy about himself 766 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 3: and so fan carries himself in the much different way 767 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 3: than Monkin does. And so therefore you will get different 768 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 3: reactions when you have a coach that's somewhat mild mannered, 769 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 3: someone someone that's even killed as as he said, someone 770 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 3: who's not not a very very jubilant about the way 771 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 3: about their coaching style. And maybe Todd Monkin is just different. 772 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 3: So for him it's refreshing because it's something that he's 773 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 3: not used to being that he's just getting into the 774 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 3: NFL and that's all known so far during his short 775 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 3: NFL career is what he saw from Sefanskin. 776 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 4: Now you get Todd Mounkin. 777 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 3: Who's completely different, different approach, a different way of doing things, 778 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 3: So to him, that is refreshing. 779 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna do it, say all the right thing 780 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 1: until they get your answer there and behave. 781 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 2: It's just like when you go to college. Oh you're great. 782 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 2: Oh your son is unbelievable. Yeah, we're so glad to have. 783 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 4: Oh you know, they say, your dream, get your hands. 784 00:36:53,200 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 2: Over here, hold on my grandfather to help me over here? 785 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 2: How you talking about? Get mass over here, get lied 786 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 2: and run and all this. 787 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 3: Hey, listen, hey, coaches when they first get to a team, unk, boy, 788 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 3: they like politicians. 789 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 4: Boy. 790 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hey, they like politicians. 791 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 4: When college coaches come to visit you at your house, wa, politicians, boy, 792 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 4: you get there for they actually they don't even know you. 793 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 4: Once they get you in the building, they're good. 794 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 2: Everything's changed, Oh, Joseph, Like you said, as a politician, 795 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 2: they lie to everybody. Yeah, so they get whatever story 796 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 2: they told you. They're nun told one of the other 797 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 2: guys that same lie. 798 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 4: It's a nice script, too, nice script. 799 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,919 Speaker 1: They just changed the name. Yeah. 800 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 2: And plus yeah, it's gonna be Evey kill until y'all 801 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 2: don't win no games. And they'll watch how much hell 802 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 2: he raised? Yeah, because right now you're undefeated. You're undefeated 803 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,760 Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, everybody's saying the right thing. Everybody's excited, 804 00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 2: and I get all of that. But guess what, They're 805 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 2: gonna pump them footballs up and they gonna kick him 806 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 2: off in September. 807 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you're gonna have to play. 808 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to play. 809 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 2: The Eagles and defensive tackle Jordan Davis has reached an 810 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 2: agreement on a three year, seventy eight million dollar extension, 811 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,720 Speaker 2: tying him to the Eagles for the next four season. 812 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 2: The deal includes sixty five million guaranteed and makes Davis 813 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 2: the highest paid no tackle in the NFL. The number 814 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 2: thirteen pick in twenty twenty two, Davis was entering his 815 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 2: fifth year option season worth nearly thirteen million dollars. 816 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: I've been very impressed with this young man. 817 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was phenomenal at his combine day, he was 818 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 2: a phenomenal player at UGA. But to see what he's 819 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 2: done to its body. Yeah, the way he's taking it serious, 820 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 2: the way he's gotten himself in shape, and the way 821 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 2: he plays hard. Because they first o Joe, they just 822 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 2: played him on he's just a two down player. 823 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a two down player. 824 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 2: Now he's turned himself in, he's gotten his body right, 825 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,479 Speaker 2: and he's turned himself into a hell of a football perer. 826 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: And he should have went to the damn Pro Bowl. 827 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I forget who they took over him, but he 828 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 2: should have went to the damn Pro Bowl because he 829 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 2: had a hell of a season. Yeah, you'll be told. 830 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 2: He played his car, he out played his teammate. Yeah, 831 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 2: he was better than Carter this year oo this year? 832 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was? 833 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 4: He was was this this also? 834 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 3: Uh, brother Lourie and and and how we have done 835 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 3: a great job over the years of striking while it's 836 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 3: hot and early. Yeah, striking while it's hot and early. 837 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 3: But it also leads me to believe, are you really 838 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 3: going to pay due two d tackles? Then you have 839 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 3: Cooper John, then you have the Shawn I mean, Kean 840 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 3: Mitchell ye also coming up. So I'm curious what's gonna 841 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 3: happen with that, and with it being Jamie Carter as 842 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 3: good as he is when he had to supersede that 843 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,240 Speaker 3: contract of. 844 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, or my. 845 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 2: Tripping based on based on what he's done, Yes, yeah, 846 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, I think he's a two time 847 00:39:58,760 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl player at all. 848 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, he'll probably get he gonna get double what 849 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: he got. Yeah. 850 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 4: So, so have you ever seen the scenario where both 851 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,240 Speaker 4: D tackles are paid. 852 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: No, I haven't. 853 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 4: So that that's that's that's that's what I was. 854 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. 855 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 2: I mean, you see, Dallas got a bunch of d 856 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 2: tackles that's making twenty plus million. 857 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 1: Dollars a year. They got what three of them? 858 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:25,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, they got Quinny and or Diggi zuwa and they 859 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:26,720 Speaker 2: got clean Clark. 860 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. So no, I don't see a scenario. 861 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 2: Add another chapter the Yukon coach Dan Hurley's combative history 862 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 2: with officials. Just as Marx Maddess's approaching, Hurley was ejected 863 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 2: from the fourth ranked Husky's sixty eight sixty two loss 864 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 2: to Marquette today after picking up two technical files with 865 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,720 Speaker 2: one second remaining. Hurley argued that his player was filed. 866 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,280 Speaker 2: While driving to the basket with the Huskies trailing sixty 867 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 2: four sixty two, Hurley approached John Gaffney and gott this 868 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 2: and got chessed. He got in his chick that's next 869 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 2: to the official right shoulder while voicing his displeasure. Hurley 870 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 2: said he never bunked Gaffney, though some replays suggests otherwise. 871 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 2: Oh yo yo, he was probably trying to eat. Look 872 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 2: like he was trying to jockey his team. You know, 873 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 2: they have a good run, maybe get a one or 874 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 2: two seed in the NCAA tournament. Frustrated, say he was foul. 875 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 2: Guys say, no, he wasn't foul. I didn't see it, 876 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 2: So don't start me to line chat. I gotta so 877 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 2: chat if y'all saw it. Jumping to chat and said, 878 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 2: yeah he was fouling. No he wasn't. I mean, but 879 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 2: that's but that's his history. He's very He picked up 880 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 2: texts at me. 881 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 4: He animated, Yeah. 882 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 2: I think he from Jersey. And you can tell he 883 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 2: got that Jersey is he? 884 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 4: Is he bad as Bob Knight or not? Not that 885 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 4: it ain't. 886 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 1: Nobody bad as Bob Knight. 887 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 2: Bob Knight was cussing, throwing chairs, punching people, punching coaches, 888 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 2: punching his own players. 889 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 1: That is funny, yeah, ojo. 890 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 2: According to Spin's Jeremy Fowler, the Patriots reportedly wanted Max 891 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 2: Crosby this offseason, but Tom Brady and Filer spoke to 892 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 2: someone involved in the Crosby trayed and was quoted no 893 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 2: way Tom was sending Max to Brable. Brady and Brabel 894 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 2: were teammates in New England from two thousand and one 895 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 2: to two thousand and eight. However, it seems Tom doesn't 896 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 2: have any plan on helping his own team OJO. Should 897 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 2: the Raiders be worried that Tom ties to the Patriots 898 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 2: could affect business. 899 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 3: To not really, because I think Tom knows what he's doing. 900 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,760 Speaker 3: He knows what we're doing from a business side, especially 901 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,360 Speaker 3: trying to do what you can. I think what the 902 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 3: Preachers might have been offered for Matt Crosby, they weren't 903 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 3: getting in return. I think what the Ravens got with 904 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,280 Speaker 3: the Ravens were willing to give up for Matt Crosby. 905 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 3: Tom Brady understands what I can continue to build over 906 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 3: there in Las Vegas, and he understood that this is 907 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 3: about business. Now, whether I want to help you improve 908 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 3: or not, are you going to commensate me the value 909 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 3: that we need to continue to prove our roster if 910 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,439 Speaker 3: we're giving away our identity to you. The Patriots probably 911 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 3: weren't willing to do that, but the goddamn Ravens work. 912 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 2: So if the Patriots have two first and the Ravens 913 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 2: have to first, you think Tom Brady doing business with 914 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 2: his old team. 915 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 4: That's a great question. 916 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: That's a good question. You ain't helping them now. I 917 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: think it's a situation. 918 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,479 Speaker 2: Honestly, this is me And like I said, I haven't 919 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 2: talked to anybody, but I can see a situation like 920 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:45,840 Speaker 2: what happened with Peyton. If you didn't know better, you 921 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 2: would swear Peyton Manny only played for the Broncos. Because 922 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 2: where do you see him at the games on Sunday? Joe, Yeah, Brons. 923 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,720 Speaker 2: When do you see him doing stuff with the Broncos? 924 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: He has a. 925 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 2: Statue out in front of them of soil. Tom probably 926 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,879 Speaker 2: will never say this, and he won a championship. I'm 927 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 2: the greatest quarterback of it. And you let you told 928 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 2: me I wasn't good enough. It wasn't It was bad enough. 929 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 2: When I first got into the league, I had to 930 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 2: watch guy after guy after guy after guy. And you 931 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 2: mean to tell me, after six Super Bowls, after three 932 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 2: m vps, after four Super Bowl MVPs, I'm not good enough. 933 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 4: Had that business work? 934 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,720 Speaker 2: And and I understand Coach Belichick, but he said, mister Kraft, 935 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 2: you signed off, you fired him, So you mean to 936 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:35,360 Speaker 2: tell me you couldn't override it. 937 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 1: You let it get to this. That's just me. That's 938 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: just me. Looking at knowing how I yeah, that's a 939 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: good one. 940 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 4: That's a good one. 941 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 2: That man, he that man. You see how it held 942 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 2: against every team that passed. 943 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 4: Twenty three gave him hell everybody. 944 00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 2: He did, Like I said, And I could be I 945 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 2: could be totally wrong, but I think there's still some 946 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:04,359 Speaker 2: resentment there. 947 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: He'll never say it, and I get it. I get it. 948 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 2: You always put oh no, we're Greg and you know 949 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 2: the Patriots and ya ya. He's been very very positive 950 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 2: about mister coach Belichick. He's been very very positive positive 951 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 2: about mister Craft. They gave up after every so let 952 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,879 Speaker 2: that sink in so chat. So next time y'all talking 953 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 2: about these players and this and that. He's on the 954 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 2: very short list. Whether you think a quarterback can be 955 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 2: the goat of a of a league that's neither here 956 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 2: nor there. We'll debate that all the time. Here's a 957 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 2: guy that had an exemplary career for twenty years in 958 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 2: New England with six Super Bowls, four MVPs, three regular 959 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,240 Speaker 2: season MVPs. And you know, when it comes to clutch, 960 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 2: we ain't talking about the won that's in your car 961 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 2: with a man transmission. We're talking about and when you 962 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,399 Speaker 2: need something to happen, you can make it pop off. 963 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 2: And they said, nah, you ain't got it no more. Yeah, 964 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,720 Speaker 2: better without you. Hey, So I got a question. 965 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 6: Y'all think that the championship that he won in Tampa 966 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 6: Bay is more significant than anyone he's won in New England. 967 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if it met Moore, especially especially 968 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 2: especially going from one team to another and being able 969 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 2: to win it your first year, and when stuff like 970 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 2: that happened, Joe, Like if. 971 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 3: You were playing a video game and let's say you 972 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,280 Speaker 3: just trade one player to another team, now you expect 973 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 3: to win, but to be able to do it in 974 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 3: real life, to go to a new organization after being 975 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 3: somewhere for nine. 976 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 4: Twenty twenty years, twenty yeah, and people. 977 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 3: Say, oh, well, we don't know what's going to happen. 978 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 3: Did you win in New England because of Bill or 979 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 3: was it because of you? And then you go to 980 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 3: the next place and win the following season. When people 981 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 3: play their whole career and never go to a super Bowl. 982 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, but but Tampa Bay won't just slough. They were 983 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 6: just all the was already there. 984 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 4: They were missing one thing. 985 00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all they needed the guy that during the 986 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 2: all over right right, and I think because because they 987 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 2: didn't believe in him, He's like, hold on, after everything 988 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 2: I've done, y'all still doubt me? 989 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 1: Now? 990 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 2: Okay, it was a boy I would have loved to 991 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 2: been a fly on the wall when he was with 992 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 2: his friends, his closest friend, his. 993 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 1: Mom, his dad, his agent, his boys. 994 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:31,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you got to realize now, once he left, 995 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 2: that thing unraveled. 996 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,320 Speaker 3: Quickly, very you know, if you don't have a quarterback. 997 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,319 Speaker 3: I mean, look, hold on, Mac Jones looked good his 998 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 3: first year, but you understand why he looked good and 999 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,240 Speaker 3: what he had to deal with his second year. Somebody 1000 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 3: that shouldn't be been appointed that had nothing to do 1001 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,359 Speaker 3: with officer play call and didn't know what they was doing. 1002 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 3: So it went downhill very fast. 1003 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 1: Damn some guys. 1004 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 2: You just look you see that, Yeah, ed happens because 1005 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 2: I don't care how well you played. 1006 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 1: Eventually, what they do. 1007 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 4: With Joe. 1008 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,839 Speaker 1: Emmy Smith for the Cowboys, what they do about Joe? 1009 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 1: Are you Joe, Joe, you know that's your team, you know, yeah? Yeah, yeah, so. 1010 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 2: Joe, Montana, Emmitt Smith, Tom Brady, Jerry Rice. I can 1011 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 2: make a case therefore, the top eight nineteen that position. Yeah, 1012 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 2: had to finish their careers elsewhere because the team after 1013 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,479 Speaker 2: everything they had done. 1014 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:36,839 Speaker 1: It's not good. 1015 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, But when a when a player says, I will Hey, 1016 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 2: I want out? 1017 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: Are you selfish? You know how I'm going? 1018 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, Joe, The Rams and Trent McDuffie agreed to 1019 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,280 Speaker 2: a record four year deal one and twenty four million 1020 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 2: dollar extension, one hundred million dollars, get one hundred million guarantees, 1021 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 2: making him the highest paid cornerback at year history, the 1022 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 2: highest paid cornerback per year. He makes thirty one million, 1023 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,360 Speaker 2: Sauss Gardner thirty point one, Stingley Junior thirty, j C. 1024 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 2: Horn twenty five, Jalen Ramsey twenty four point one, and 1025 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 2: Pat Sir Tan second twenty four. 1026 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,879 Speaker 1: Mmm. McDuffie mcduffin's strapping that nice now? 1027 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 4: He nice? 1028 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,799 Speaker 3: Hold on, hey, uh listen, he very nice. He could 1029 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 3: play inside, Joe. He could play on the outside too 1030 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,799 Speaker 3: at times if need be. He could travel. I'm not 1031 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 3: sure what they're gonna have how they're gonna use him over there. 1032 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,839 Speaker 3: He's probably not going to travel. I'm sure he has 1033 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 3: a Pacific side that he likes to play based on 1034 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 3: what he did in Kansas City. 1035 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 4: But he could strap. Hey, he was strapped one. 1036 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 1: He is strapped. 1037 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 3: When I remember, I had my wide receiver workshop and 1038 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 3: I talked about some of the DB's that were difficult, 1039 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 3: you know, to to play against. I asked Uno, asked 1040 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 3: Jamar Chase, I asked some some other receivers, and obviously 1041 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 3: Patrick Curtain was at the top. But goddamn trem m 1042 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 3: duffie's name kept coming up. Yeah, he had to deal 1043 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,399 Speaker 3: with along with you know, den Zel Award, and it's 1044 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 3: it's the same it's the same name that always talking 1045 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 3: about saying, we talk about the Denzel Ward, Trent McDuffie 1046 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 3: pass certain you know, the J. C. Horns Stingley is 1047 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:17,799 Speaker 3: always in that conversation too. 1048 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:22,319 Speaker 2: So Gonzales is not that now you guys, Hey, they're 1049 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 2: gonna have to do someone Gonzales, you don't have to do. 1050 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, got Gonzales is up to and he nice, he nice. 1051 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 3: I wish I wish he talked a little bit more 1052 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 3: so the the personality. 1053 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 1: Get that man to talk out of his game. You 1054 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 1: try to get that man to talk that you. 1055 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 4: Know, I'm just saying because it. 1056 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:41,040 Speaker 1: That ain't his game. 1057 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:42,400 Speaker 4: That's he can decide. 1058 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 3: We need that kind of personality to be a little 1059 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 3: bit more brash, a little bit more boastful about how 1060 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 3: good they are. 1061 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 2: That is, oh yo, that's your game. You tried to 1062 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,760 Speaker 2: get him to do something like you did. Everybody talking. 1063 00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 2: Some people just like to play and let talk. You 1064 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 2: and I we like to. I'm gonna tell you what 1065 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do. Talk for on top of it. Yeah, 1066 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,359 Speaker 2: because sometimes I get too tired to talk. 1067 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,320 Speaker 1: But i'mna player. I wa get this touchdown on you. 1068 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 1: I'm doing it. 1069 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 3: Be nice though, But that's that's that's a really that's 1070 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 3: a really Listen, that defense improved, which is already good, 1071 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 3: which is already good at at at the back. The 1072 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 3: back end was already good, especially last year. But to 1073 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,920 Speaker 3: add that to what they already have, especially with that 1074 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 3: that front line, the RAMS guy and you get a 1075 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 3: solid piece at corner. 1076 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 4: They're gonna be nice. 1077 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 3: They're gonna be I would love to be I would 1078 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 3: love to be a fly on the wall at a 1079 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 3: practice in the morn on ones with Trim McDuffie and 1080 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 3: Poop in the cop. 1081 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,399 Speaker 4: I would love I would love to see that. 1082 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,359 Speaker 2: Alos man, Oh, they must be got some money. I know, 1083 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 2: mister Cronkey got boat low. But it's gonna take some 1084 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 2: more because because what what he just what he just paid, 1085 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 2: what he just paid McDuffie, He's gonna have to add million. 1086 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 4: Pooker it this year or is the next year. 1087 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:05,839 Speaker 1: Pooka Pooka up? 1088 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's pooka spot hold of this pook a 1089 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 2: third or fourth year. 1090 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 1: Pooka was a fifth round pick. Good yeah, ye up, 1091 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 1: yeah up. 1092 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,319 Speaker 6: They're gonna have to They're gonna have to back up their. 1093 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:25,399 Speaker 3: Bridge the market. It you're gonna reset the market. Now, 1094 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 3: I'm curious. I'm curious if over there in Seattle they 1095 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 3: waiting on Poopa to sign, or they're gonna jess Ain't 1096 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 3: gonna sign first, or they're gonna make jess and play 1097 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 3: one more year. 1098 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 2: So he's played three years or four years? Okay, he 1099 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 2: signed a four year deal. Damn he signed that many 1100 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,440 Speaker 2: the sligned that longer deal with in uh at the 1101 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 2: fifth rounder. Yeah, yeah, he about to he about to 1102 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 2: he about to, yeah, he about to break he about 1103 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 2: to break it up. 1104 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 4: Joe. 1105 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,400 Speaker 3: He might get forty two for what he gotta give 1106 00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 3: forty two a year. 1107 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 4: Mm hmm thirty two years. 1108 00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:13,719 Speaker 1: Who who receiver? Chase? Yeah, you know, say resent the marking. 1109 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,880 Speaker 4: That's create Ay, Joe is gonna keep going up to 1110 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 4: Joe if you keep going up? 1111 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, I don't know if you saw what you saw? 1112 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 2: The NFL try to redo them TV deals you see 1113 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 2: that ot Joe? 1114 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 1: They are there, Yeah, but they won't mo. 1115 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 2: Hey, Netflix said we won't in Oh yeah, CBS para 1116 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 2: mind say, Hey, y'all know we got a good relationship. 1117 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,600 Speaker 2: We bought up everything, We put it on any net. 1118 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 2: What you want to you want a CBS you want? Hey, 1119 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:49,240 Speaker 2: you want to see it in whatever? 1120 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 1: That's what you want? Hey, Netflix? 1121 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,439 Speaker 2: Hey, you know, in order to be considered for real, 1122 00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,879 Speaker 2: you gotta get live events. You gotta get a live 1123 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,480 Speaker 2: sporting event, and nothing better than the NFL football and 1124 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 2: team's gonna pay big dollars for it. 1125 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 1: And they know that. 1126 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 2: After missing out on Max Prize to the Cowboys, opting 1127 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 2: for nudge, another edge rusher Ray Shaun Geary is headed 1128 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,760 Speaker 2: to the Cowboys with an old teammate of Kenny Clark 1129 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,879 Speaker 2: to boast of the Cowboys past rush post Michael Parkson's era. 1130 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 1: Oh Joe, do you like the signing? 1131 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 4: I like it. I like I like for Sean Gary. 1132 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:29,840 Speaker 4: I like the signing. 1133 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 3: I didn't like the disappearing act that he pulled after 1134 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 3: having nine sex the last nine games, maybe with a. 1135 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,240 Speaker 1: Sack and he disciplined nine games. 1136 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:40,319 Speaker 4: That's that's what I was trying to say. 1137 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,319 Speaker 3: But he had how many did he have before those 1138 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 3: last nine games? 1139 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 4: Where here. 1140 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:46,920 Speaker 1: I think he had like eight. I think he had 1141 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:47,800 Speaker 1: like eight and a half? 1142 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I mean in the first whatever the games, 1143 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 2: and then he had got shut out the last nine games. 1144 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:56,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, the last nine. 1145 00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 3: So obviously once once Micah got there and Michaeh Michael 1146 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,479 Speaker 3: had twelve and a half in MISS B games and 1147 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 3: in MISS four game, So I'm not sure. 1148 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,440 Speaker 4: I think Rashan Gary is a good signing. If he 1149 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 4: can get off. 1150 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 3: To a great start like he did in Green Bay 1151 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 3: with that and have some consistency and not disappear like 1152 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 3: he did or tail off at the end of the season, 1153 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,880 Speaker 3: I think it would be a great, great pickup, you know, 1154 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,640 Speaker 3: for the Dallas Cowboys. I I and chat stay with 1155 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 3: me real quick. I still think they might be in 1156 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 3: a play for Trey Henderson or is that deal off 1157 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 3: the table because you got Rashan Garret. 1158 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,839 Speaker 1: What do you think if they're gonna play a three four? 1159 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,319 Speaker 2: So if they're gonna play a thirty four, you put 1160 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 2: Henderson as a stand up linebacker, you put Gary as 1161 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,320 Speaker 2: a stand up linebacker, and you will probably have a 1162 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,239 Speaker 2: Quinny Williams and o'diggie Zoo as your end, and then 1163 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,720 Speaker 2: you probably have Kenny Clark as your nose. 1164 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 3: So listen, do you just based off what you just 1165 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 3: said just there? I mean, obviously on paper with names 1166 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,480 Speaker 3: it sounds good. They still have to play as a 1167 00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,520 Speaker 3: unit all together collectively, but to me it sounds good. 1168 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,839 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if they're gonna have money to do so, 1169 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:02,440 Speaker 3: And a lot of people say, oh, they don't have 1170 00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 3: no money. I don't think people understand when teams want 1171 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 3: to do something, there's a way to. 1172 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:07,360 Speaker 4: Move money around. 1173 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,719 Speaker 3: You do understand that, right, there's always a way to 1174 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 3: move money around that there's. 1175 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:12,399 Speaker 4: No way to stop them. 1176 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,480 Speaker 3: When they want to sign a player individually, they can 1177 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,840 Speaker 3: restructure and and manipulate whatever numbers they need to get to. 1178 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 2: They redid Dak's contract, they restructured DAC, they restructured a CD, 1179 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 2: They did restructure Tyler Smith, they did something with Terrence Steele. 1180 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 2: So they got they got a little money to play with. 1181 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if they're gonna do something to Derod Bland. 1182 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 2: Probably if they reworked those contracts over Diggie Zua twenty 1183 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 2: Williams and Kenny Clark, probably give him some more money 1184 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 2: to play with, because you know, you just kick the 1185 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 2: can down the road, you know, you tear the contract 1186 00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 2: up a voidable years and you know what I'm saying, 1187 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:48,760 Speaker 2: and give them the signing bonus O Joe. 1188 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 1: So I think that's what it's gonna do. 1189 00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the thing for me is that they 1190 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,799 Speaker 2: give them a fourth round draft pick pay. They got 1191 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 2: nineteen and a half million dollars this year. He has 1192 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two and a half million next year, but 1193 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,759 Speaker 2: it's not guaranteed. And then when you look at Khalil Mack, 1194 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,880 Speaker 2: he just signed a one year deal for eighteen million. 1195 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 2: Me personally, I think Khalil Mack is a better player. 1196 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 2: I think the thing is that when you look at 1197 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,879 Speaker 2: Rashan Garrett, he's a guy that's never had a double 1198 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 2: digit sack season, and you mentioned something very interesting the 1199 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,480 Speaker 2: last nine games zero sacks. It's hard for me to 1200 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:24,240 Speaker 2: see scenario because you know Michael's getting double team. It's 1201 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,040 Speaker 2: hard for me to see a scenario where you can't 1202 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,720 Speaker 2: get one sack, two sacks with all the attention with 1203 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,440 Speaker 2: the guy on the other side. It's kind of like 1204 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,200 Speaker 2: if you're a wide receiver and you play with another 1205 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 2: great ride receiver, you can't tell me. You mean to 1206 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 2: tell me you can't get a couple of touchdowns, you 1207 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 2: can't get to have a couple of big games when 1208 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 2: I know they're giving. 1209 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 1: Attention to the other guy on the other side. 1210 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 2: So that was that was I'm not I'm not saying, look, 1211 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 2: maybe he was hurt, but I'm saying that would cause 1212 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 2: me to pause. Okay, now what's going Let me let me, 1213 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,120 Speaker 2: let me let me try to dive a little deeper 1214 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 2: to see what's really going. 1215 00:57:55,080 --> 00:58:00,200 Speaker 4: On with other right, yeah, yeah, matter of fact, on 1216 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,560 Speaker 4: and let me let me. Let me get. 1217 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 3: The Raiders. Matt Crosby is going to Baltimore. Who's replace 1218 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,240 Speaker 3: who's replaced Max? 1219 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,120 Speaker 2: They're probably go in the draft. You got the first 1220 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 2: pick of the draft, or you got number fourteen. 1221 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,640 Speaker 3: So I'm thinking with Rashaun Gary, if the Cowboys feel 1222 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:25,080 Speaker 3: they feel their need at the defensive position as far 1223 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,320 Speaker 3: as off season acquisitions go, and they want to work 1224 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,040 Speaker 3: at other levels that they do have, then I say, 1225 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,720 Speaker 3: maybe Trey Henderson. If I don't, I don't see a 1226 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,680 Speaker 3: scenario where he signs back. Goddamn, I mean what they 1227 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously that's that's not gonna happen. So maybe 1228 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 3: there's a scenario where Trey Henderson ends up in inves. 1229 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 4: I tweet. 1230 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,160 Speaker 3: I tweeted, Okay, Trey Henderson is going to end up 1231 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,960 Speaker 3: a cowboy. I tweeted it because I I wholeheardly believe it. 1232 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,120 Speaker 3: But when they got rashaon Gary, I'm like, uh, knowing Jerry, 1233 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,240 Speaker 3: knowing the way he is, he's not very aggressed him 1234 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 3: not too aggressive in the off season. I mean, listen, 1235 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,080 Speaker 3: he made he made a move. 1236 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, he seemed to be more than he's ever been 1237 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:10,320 Speaker 2: in his life. You see, he tried to make a 1238 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 2: play for uh Na, Kobe Dean. He makes the you know, 1239 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:18,040 Speaker 2: traded traded for Quinny Williams. Yeah, he traded Michael and 1240 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 2: he got compensation back, and so you see what he's 1241 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,240 Speaker 2: some of the some of the moves that he's making. 1242 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,880 Speaker 2: This is the first time that we've seen Dallas really 1243 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 2: spending the off season or really try to make you 1244 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,000 Speaker 2: mose and not no C or D level moves. These 1245 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 2: are Look, it remains to be seen how Rashaun Gary 1246 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,520 Speaker 2: is gonna play out, but to try to go in 1247 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,560 Speaker 2: the freezing and getting to Kobe Dean because that is 1248 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,920 Speaker 2: the that is the position to need your linebackers. Your 1249 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:48,480 Speaker 2: linebackers need h they need and to play a three four, 1250 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 2: Oh Joe, your back has got to be good to 1251 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 2: three four. 1252 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:52,200 Speaker 1: They gotta be some. 1253 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, they got to be they got to be yeah. 1254 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:56,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah. 1255 00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,800 Speaker 2: Bringing back wide receiver Rashid Shaheed on a three year, 1256 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,720 Speaker 2: fifty one million dollar contract, Oh your thirty four point 1257 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 2: seven million guaranteed Shahijo in cornerback Josh job as cleve 1258 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,920 Speaker 2: players returning to the defending Super Bowl champion in free agency. Seattle, however, 1259 01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,040 Speaker 2: lost both Super Bowl MVP Kenneth Walker to the Chiefs 1260 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,000 Speaker 2: and defensive back Kobe Bryant to the Bears to join 1261 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,920 Speaker 2: a new team. Did Seattle do enough to try to 1262 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 2: run it back? 1263 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:21,880 Speaker 1: Now? 1264 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 2: O Joe, I gotta save a little something because you know, 1265 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 2: you know, O Joe, you know a a spoon and 1266 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 2: you know JSC and I got I got to take 1267 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 2: care of them. Oh yeah, absolutely, kind of want to, 1268 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 2: like kind of want to do a little something for 1269 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 2: Sam Donald, let him know that we really appreciate what 1270 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:41,160 Speaker 2: he did. 1271 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean, listen, you know, they know 1272 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,760 Speaker 3: how to manipulate those numbers, They know what they what 1273 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,440 Speaker 3: they need to do. You got to take care of 1274 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 3: JSN You gotta take care of with the spoon because 1275 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:53,840 Speaker 3: they have been phenomenal. 1276 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 4: Those are key. 1277 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:58,840 Speaker 3: Pieces to your to your team in general. I'm not 1278 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,920 Speaker 3: sure when it's gonna happen. I'm I don't know. I'm 1279 01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:07,400 Speaker 3: I'm waiting. I'm waiting they have they done enough to 1280 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,840 Speaker 3: fill in to make a repeat or have a run 1281 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 3: run again. I'm not sure the defense will look the 1282 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 3: same as it did this year. 1283 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,360 Speaker 4: You can find pieces. Are are you going to find 1284 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,040 Speaker 4: someone that's going to fill. 1285 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 3: In that position at the defensive back position and do 1286 01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,280 Speaker 3: what Tyreek Willing was able to do? 1287 01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 4: I mean, they had that nickname for a reason. They 1288 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 4: had the nickname for a reason. 1289 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 3: So if you're not bringing back that same squad with 1290 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,240 Speaker 3: the same players that had that continuity, that continuity, will 1291 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,120 Speaker 3: it be the same? You know, will Sam Donald player 1292 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 3: as well as he did this season. Hell will, he 1293 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,520 Speaker 3: proved he could do it. He went from Minnesota, playing 1294 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,320 Speaker 3: well in Minnesota and ain't miss a beat in Seattle. 1295 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,840 Speaker 3: So I mean you would see him now already being paid. 1296 01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,800 Speaker 3: You you would see some consistency, you know, on his part. 1297 01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,880 Speaker 3: So I'm sure they probably will look just as great 1298 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:52,920 Speaker 3: and go. 1299 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:53,560 Speaker 1: Back to the Raiders. 1300 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,720 Speaker 2: They also signed kway Walker from the from green Bay 1301 01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:00,680 Speaker 2: because remember green Bay traded the line line back they 1302 01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 2: traded for uh, what's the Indianapolis coach guy? They traded 1303 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,040 Speaker 2: for the for him and he was on the five. 1304 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:15,560 Speaker 2: Frank they traded for zir kway Walker, who is University 1305 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,200 Speaker 2: of Georgia. Hey, as a matter of fact, I think 1306 01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 2: quite Quay and the Kobe playing together. 1307 01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 1: I think so now they got to Georgia. 1308 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,360 Speaker 2: Now the Georgia boys reunited, because you know they had 1309 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,520 Speaker 2: you Georgia boys, and and and we had three with 1310 01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:33,640 Speaker 2: a Philly Carter and David and the Kobe Dean right. 1311 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:36,960 Speaker 1: And so hey, I still don't understand. 1312 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:37,920 Speaker 4: I know you just said it. 1313 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:39,480 Speaker 3: I don't want to say how they let Zion frank 1314 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:43,440 Speaker 3: Zaion Franklin go, Well he's. 1315 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,360 Speaker 2: He hey, he gonna stop to run now, goodness all 1316 01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 2: over the Uh he'll thumper, hey he. I don't know 1317 01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:51,760 Speaker 2: what the defense they're gonna run, but he'll perfect for 1318 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,560 Speaker 2: a three four defense because. 1319 01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,240 Speaker 1: He's a big he a big ass and it can 1320 01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:56,320 Speaker 1: take on guards. 1321 01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 2: Look, obviously, you know when you're that size, you're not 1322 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,840 Speaker 2: gonna be as nimble and play the recovery pass that well. 1323 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,320 Speaker 2: So he'll probably be coming out on third down. But 1324 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,360 Speaker 2: you know, I like to pick for green Bay. Green 1325 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,320 Speaker 2: Bays like we need to get better in run defense, 1326 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,480 Speaker 2: and they felt what you know, Quay is more agile. 1327 01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:15,680 Speaker 1: But it's gonna be interesting to see. I like what 1328 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:16,760 Speaker 1: the Raiders have done so far. 1329 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,160 Speaker 2: That doesn't translate just cause you spent a both load 1330 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 2: of money in free agency, Oh Joe, doesn't mean it's 1331 01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,640 Speaker 2: gonna transmit automatic over you're gonna. 1332 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 3: Where then that that's the case this, hey miss, And 1333 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,080 Speaker 3: that's the case. We god damn sitis would translated based 1334 01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,600 Speaker 3: on what they what they acquired in the offseason with 1335 01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,160 Speaker 3: all that elite talent that. 1336 01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,920 Speaker 2: They had, So it's gonna be veried. But you know, 1337 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,480 Speaker 2: we're not surprised that we see this kind of movement. 1338 01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:46,800 Speaker 2: We normally see this movement the first two days. Mike 1339 01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,000 Speaker 2: Avis is leaving Tampa Bay. He's heading to the Bay 1340 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 2: to join Kyle Shanahan him Rock Party. Mike A we 1341 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:53,520 Speaker 2: have a new home for the first time in his 1342 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:57,440 Speaker 2: NFL career as he chases his second Super Bowl. He's 1343 01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,640 Speaker 2: signing a three year contract with the forty nine Ers. 1344 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:03,440 Speaker 2: Until injuries dereled this twenty twenty five campaign, Evans had 1345 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,720 Speaker 2: a streak of eleven straight seasons of at least one 1346 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,200 Speaker 2: thousand receiving yards. He tied Jerry Right for the longest 1347 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:13,280 Speaker 2: in NFL history. His was to begin the career Jerry 1348 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,840 Speaker 2: has his from ninety He had this from ninety six 1349 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,000 Speaker 2: to from eighty six to ninety six, one hundred and 1350 01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:24,720 Speaker 2: eight total touchdown ranked tenth all time, six most with 1351 01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,920 Speaker 2: one franchise. Hell massed three hundred and eight yards in 1352 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,760 Speaker 2: eight games last season. If he's still the same player, 1353 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,040 Speaker 2: he has the potential to be really, really good for 1354 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,960 Speaker 2: Kyle shannhad because we know what Kyle can do, and 1355 01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,400 Speaker 2: that offense play makers such as Christian McCaffrey, George Kettle 1356 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:43,800 Speaker 2: we'll see coming back from an achilles injury. Oho Aul's 1357 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:45,640 Speaker 2: gonna have to be. He's gonna have to take another step. 1358 01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,920 Speaker 2: He's gonna have to take another step. O Joe Juwan 1359 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,160 Speaker 2: Jennicks as a free agent Kendrick Born. If I'm not mistaken, 1360 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,000 Speaker 2: I think I saw him before I came on tonight 1361 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:55,800 Speaker 2: sign with Arizona. 1362 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,080 Speaker 1: On a nice deal? Ojo, what you think? Are you 1363 01:04:58,200 --> 01:04:58,800 Speaker 1: surprised that? 1364 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,200 Speaker 4: My day? I absolutely love it. I absolutely love it. 1365 01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,160 Speaker 4: I absolutely love it because I know what Mike Evans 1366 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:05,840 Speaker 4: could do. Hold on, Not only do I know what 1367 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:06,520 Speaker 4: Mike Evan. 1368 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,880 Speaker 3: Could do, He's going to a team when you got 1369 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,440 Speaker 3: a goddamn offensive genius, You're going to an offense that 1370 01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 3: is predicated on putting your position to make plays. 1371 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:19,680 Speaker 4: What is goddamn Mike Evans. He's a playmaker, and. 1372 01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,040 Speaker 3: He showed you in a long stretch of eleven seasons 1373 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:23,320 Speaker 3: of having a thousand yards. 1374 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:24,520 Speaker 4: Now it's unfortunate. 1375 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:29,280 Speaker 3: I tweeted, Dolphins, we got Malik Willis, let's get Mike 1376 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,760 Speaker 3: Evans because I understand we need it down here in Miami. 1377 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 3: Another playmaker, right and long behold. Shortly after that, he 1378 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:38,959 Speaker 3: signed with the forty nine ers. And I'm not even 1379 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,080 Speaker 3: mad about it, but I understand. Oh my goodness, you 1380 01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,720 Speaker 3: putting Mike Emmons in that system like that, with the 1381 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,840 Speaker 3: creativity and the office of prowess that Kyle Shanahan has 1382 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:48,560 Speaker 3: when it comes to the office of play callers and 1383 01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,640 Speaker 3: putting players in position to make players man hell, Mike Emans, 1384 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,000 Speaker 3: Mike go for a thousand maybe fifteen O Joe. 1385 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,200 Speaker 2: And you saw this the last couple of years. The 1386 01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,640 Speaker 2: injury started to creep up. And as they started to 1387 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,960 Speaker 2: creep up, they started to keep you out a little longer. 1388 01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:03,800 Speaker 2: You see, remember he had a hamstring and he was 1389 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,720 Speaker 2: able to come back to keep that thousand and catch 1390 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,280 Speaker 2: season alive. And then this year it came and then 1391 01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 2: all of a sudden he couldn't fight it off. He 1392 01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:12,600 Speaker 2: couldn't come back. So I think that was a little 1393 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,560 Speaker 2: concern because Tampa has lost a couple of guys. 1394 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,520 Speaker 1: There are a couple of guys that are leaving Tampa 1395 01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,880 Speaker 1: and moving on. But when you when you look at it, 1396 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,959 Speaker 1: I think, obviously, I isn't coming back. 1397 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:27,480 Speaker 2: Kendrick Bourne is at a new locations as a free agent. 1398 01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,640 Speaker 2: George Kettle is coming off a very serious injury and 1399 01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:37,760 Speaker 2: he howld is killed thirty two thirty three. He's thirty 1400 01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:42,800 Speaker 2: two years old, coming off from achilles injury. We'll see 1401 01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:46,720 Speaker 2: how soon he can get back. Yeah, because if you 1402 01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:52,720 Speaker 2: think about it, o Jo Jason Tatum ten months okay, 1403 01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:59,600 Speaker 2: killed tore Kiys in January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November, 1404 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:04,600 Speaker 2: ten months be November. Yeah, that's if he comes ten 1405 01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,880 Speaker 2: bucks now. He could he come back in nine and 1406 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:10,000 Speaker 2: make it October? Could he come back in eight make 1407 01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:15,240 Speaker 2: it September? Probably pushing it, but hey, got as a 1408 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,000 Speaker 2: professional athlete, sometimes you have to protect us from us. 1409 01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,440 Speaker 2: But we'll see how that, how that plays out. But 1410 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,760 Speaker 2: they needed a receiver. Yeah, and you see one Dale Robinson. 1411 01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,240 Speaker 2: You saw what he got from Tennessee. You you saw 1412 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:30,080 Speaker 2: I would Piers what he got. 1413 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,320 Speaker 4: From Alex in Midianapolis. 1414 01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,680 Speaker 1: So that's about It's about twenty nine million a year, 1415 01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:35,280 Speaker 1: four for. 1416 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:39,120 Speaker 4: One sixteen a timing, timing. 1417 01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:40,120 Speaker 1: Twenty nine for one sixteen. 1418 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,920 Speaker 2: So what George Pickots, you say, George Pickets, he said, hey, 1419 01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:44,680 Speaker 2: y'all think y'all want to give me twenty eight to 1420 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:45,520 Speaker 2: thirty million? 1421 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,280 Speaker 3: Man, man, stop playing. I could have told that honestly 1422 01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,400 Speaker 3: and disrespectful. I mean those that those that I don't 1423 01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,120 Speaker 3: want to call them casual fans that that that watched 1424 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,200 Speaker 3: football is they say, oh, franchise tag twenty million and 1425 01:07:58,320 --> 01:07:59,000 Speaker 3: think that's enough. 1426 01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:02,920 Speaker 4: Not understanding? Are you? Are you FOOLI? Are you tripping? 1427 01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:04,080 Speaker 4: Are you understanding? 1428 01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:08,440 Speaker 3: That's why I was so voigeous and so so enthusiastic 1429 01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,440 Speaker 3: about him being able to go somewhere else because I 1430 01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,840 Speaker 3: understand the game that they're gonna play. 1431 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:14,680 Speaker 4: I understand the game. 1432 01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:16,200 Speaker 3: They don't see it because they just want him on 1433 01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:19,960 Speaker 3: the team. Everybody's selfish. He was great for us. We 1434 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,400 Speaker 3: want them our team. We don't care he got a 1435 01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:27,840 Speaker 3: franchise that nine man man, please stop playing, but anything. 1436 01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the thing is the whole thing is 1437 01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,920 Speaker 2: that man, as you start the age and you start 1438 01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:36,240 Speaker 2: to get nicked, I don't know what it's like. It 1439 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,320 Speaker 2: seems like the injuries happened with greater frequency as we 1440 01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,439 Speaker 2: start the age and we start to get injured in 1441 01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,120 Speaker 2: our older age, in our latter years. We start getting 1442 01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,840 Speaker 2: nicked in year ten, year level year twelve. Man, it's 1443 01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,280 Speaker 2: hard to body just don't to recover like it once did. 1444 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,040 Speaker 1: Cover. Yeah, it's tough. 1445 01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,320 Speaker 3: You know, I can tell I can tell you something 1446 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,439 Speaker 3: you know, for for for someone who has never been injured. 1447 01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,560 Speaker 3: Uh oh, gloryd be to God because of that. I 1448 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,439 Speaker 3: don't know what it is, especially what it is with 1449 01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,160 Speaker 3: players when they get up in age, and I'm assuming 1450 01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:11,360 Speaker 3: maybe it's wear and tear on the body from the rigors, 1451 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,280 Speaker 3: workouts and and what they've done over the years. 1452 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,400 Speaker 4: And I don't. I don't, I don't. I don't know 1453 01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:17,920 Speaker 4: a factor. 1454 01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,120 Speaker 3: I don't know what you can factor into it as 1455 01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,519 Speaker 3: to why it always happens. The funny thing about the 1456 01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,719 Speaker 3: nature of the beasts when it comes to playing this game, 1457 01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,400 Speaker 3: injuries are inevitable. They're going to happen, and you want 1458 01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,400 Speaker 3: to minimize them the best way you can, whether it 1459 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,120 Speaker 3: be through nutrition, whether it be through. 1460 01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:38,320 Speaker 1: Prement measure you know your cold sides therapy, yes. 1461 01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:39,679 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, taking care of your body. 1462 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,400 Speaker 3: But the one thing about it is is some just 1463 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,919 Speaker 3: aren't lucky, and it just happens. 1464 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:46,960 Speaker 4: It just happens. 1465 01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,280 Speaker 3: Even when you prevent, you take all the proper measurement 1466 01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:52,240 Speaker 3: measurements to make sure you don't get hurt, it just happens. 1467 01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:57,320 Speaker 2: So every agent isn't stressed about it was stressed it 1468 01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,360 Speaker 2: wasn't about money. The Buccaneers were extremely aggressive in their 1469 01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:04,440 Speaker 2: pursuit pursuit and presented a very strong offer offer demonstrating 1470 01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:07,200 Speaker 2: how much they value him and everything he meant to 1471 01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,760 Speaker 2: the franchise. In the end, the decision came down to 1472 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,639 Speaker 2: Mike wanting a new challenge and a fresh opportunity, while 1473 01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,080 Speaker 2: still he feels he has a great deal left in 1474 01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:19,160 Speaker 2: his game. O Jo, what does this say? I mean 1475 01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,400 Speaker 2: he's been, he's been. He had an opportunity to leave 1476 01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:27,360 Speaker 2: elsewhere and he stayed. Now you do realize Tampa, Florida 1477 01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,920 Speaker 2: doesn't have state taxes. California got the highest state taxes 1478 01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:35,440 Speaker 2: in the state in the United States. So for him 1479 01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:39,640 Speaker 2: to say basically, I'm basically no, matter what, if the 1480 01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,360 Speaker 2: numbers are even, I'm taking less money because they're gonna 1481 01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:45,000 Speaker 2: take more. They're gonna take thirteen percent, fourteen percent of 1482 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:48,280 Speaker 2: your money. Right, so if you're making five million, you're 1483 01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,519 Speaker 2: making five million dollar. They're taking seven fifty off the 1484 01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,400 Speaker 2: rip let alone, the costs of limiting what it costs 1485 01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:56,200 Speaker 2: to live in San Jose, or whatever the case may 1486 01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:00,040 Speaker 2: to be. So what's going on with Mike? Why do 1487 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:01,680 Speaker 2: you think he wanted to change the scene. Now, why 1488 01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,840 Speaker 2: do you think he wanted a fresh start, considering he 1489 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,160 Speaker 2: has spent years for Tampa. 1490 01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,080 Speaker 4: And in Tampa. I don't. I don't think that. I 1491 01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,559 Speaker 4: don't think the numbers were cooking. I don't. I think 1492 01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,320 Speaker 4: if it was enough, but if. 1493 01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,320 Speaker 3: It's the numbers with what they should have been, I 1494 01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:15,439 Speaker 3: think it would have stayed in Tampa. 1495 01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,679 Speaker 4: Obviously. I think the forty nine ers offer them more. 1496 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,559 Speaker 3: And he understood the situation and going to the forty 1497 01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,240 Speaker 3: nine ers, well, hold on, this is the situation. 1498 01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:24,280 Speaker 4: Where I can be that guy again. 1499 01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:24,679 Speaker 1: Yep. 1500 01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,600 Speaker 3: You know they throw the ball in volume. You know 1501 01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:29,880 Speaker 3: I'm gonna catch a lot of passes. I'm gonna score 1502 01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,559 Speaker 3: a lot of touchsounds and can continue to build on 1503 01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,880 Speaker 3: my legacy. Going through Mike Shanahan's offense, I understand that 1504 01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:39,040 Speaker 3: they have a good quarterback and brought party. So he 1505 01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:42,519 Speaker 3: understands that George Kittle's not gonna be out again. They're 1506 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,880 Speaker 3: gonna need me. I might be able to double, maybe 1507 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,360 Speaker 3: even triple what I can do at the receiver position, 1508 01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:49,680 Speaker 3: you know, in the usage rate in which in which 1509 01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:53,040 Speaker 3: they're gonna use me. So I think the Bucks are 1510 01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:57,400 Speaker 3: probably moving forward and having Ubuka be that number one 1511 01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:01,799 Speaker 3: receiver and having that complimentary, that compliment Nary Peace and Godwin, 1512 01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,080 Speaker 3: you know, follow right behind him as the number two. 1513 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,479 Speaker 3: Outside of that, I think the writing was. 1514 01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,519 Speaker 4: On the wall. And then moving on when. 1515 01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,479 Speaker 3: Mike Emmons got hurt and he booger started having that 1516 01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:13,680 Speaker 3: string of game maybe three or four games back to 1517 01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:18,200 Speaker 3: back to back when he went crazy, and at that point, 1518 01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,320 Speaker 3: I think Mike, Mike, Mike made the right decision to 1519 01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,640 Speaker 3: move it on and continue to build on, you know, 1520 01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:25,679 Speaker 3: on on his legs. 1521 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:27,920 Speaker 1: I think at this price point, I don't I don't. 1522 01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:29,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think the numbers who have been 1523 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,880 Speaker 2: revealed yet, but I didn't see a scenario where they 1524 01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:36,840 Speaker 2: could pay getting him Alex the alex Uh, the Peers, 1525 01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:41,080 Speaker 2: Sweet State, Wandelle Robinson, Sweet Steak. So you see some 1526 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,400 Speaker 2: of these guys is getting the big money. I don't, 1527 01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:46,320 Speaker 2: you know, considering they got pretty on that kind of money. 1528 01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,559 Speaker 2: They got Christian McCaffrey on that kind of money, They 1529 01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,439 Speaker 2: got killed on who's the highest paid tight end at 1530 01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,200 Speaker 2: that kind of money. They got Bosa, they got Fred Warner, 1531 01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:55,000 Speaker 2: they got some guys, they got some big contracts with 1532 01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:59,200 Speaker 2: Joe and so I just think the things is that if, if, 1533 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,080 Speaker 2: if Mike Evans still have some tread on the tire, 1534 01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:05,280 Speaker 2: I think. 1535 01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:07,120 Speaker 1: I definitely think he can help this team. 1536 01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,280 Speaker 2: Now the question is are they gonna go, are they 1537 01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,920 Speaker 2: gonna get are they gonna bring Jennings back? 1538 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:16,160 Speaker 1: Because I thought he played well for him he did. 1539 01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:17,759 Speaker 1: I thought he played extremely well. 1540 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,880 Speaker 2: Given the the the the inconsistencies of what been in 1541 01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:23,479 Speaker 2: and out, a lot of whether it was pretty or 1542 01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,920 Speaker 2: Mac Jones playing Kttle being in and out of the lineup. Obviously, 1543 01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:33,439 Speaker 2: I didn't played Pierce, Uh, Pierce, Pierce all being hurt. 1544 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:36,120 Speaker 2: For him to come in and play as well as 1545 01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,880 Speaker 2: he did, I thought he did a great job. So 1546 01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:43,920 Speaker 2: but we'll see what Mike Evans have. I mean, you 1547 01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,280 Speaker 2: believe he still has something. I don't know if he's 1548 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:50,720 Speaker 2: gonna be five six years ago Mike Evans, but if 1549 01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:54,320 Speaker 2: he can give him somewhere eight hundred to one thousand yards, 1550 01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,000 Speaker 2: you know, seven eighteen, he. 1551 01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:02,480 Speaker 3: Getting way more than a thousand in that off Yeah, absolutely, Okay. 1552 01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,559 Speaker 4: I was a great run after catch. 1553 01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:09,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that's your level of expertise, is the 1554 01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:10,000 Speaker 2: wide receiver. 1555 01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:14,479 Speaker 1: So uh, I'm gonna take your word for it. 1556 01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:16,719 Speaker 2: But you know, look, he's the thinking is a plus 1557 01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:19,040 Speaker 2: with Jennings, Oh Joe, He's gonna want big money. He 1558 01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:22,160 Speaker 2: sees what all these other guys. I mean, you see 1559 01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:23,920 Speaker 2: what these other guys making. You don't want to be 1560 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:25,120 Speaker 2: the guy that go out there all of a sudden 1561 01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,840 Speaker 2: and get like a three year, eighteen billion dollar deal. 1562 01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:32,080 Speaker 2: Where you see guys getting I think Wanda Robinson got 1563 01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:36,439 Speaker 2: what like twenty million a year and Alec Appears got like, 1564 01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,400 Speaker 2: you know, twenty twenty eight, twenty nine million a year. 1565 01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,720 Speaker 2: You don't want to be the guy like, damn, bro, 1566 01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:45,760 Speaker 2: you're afraid and that's all you got. So he's gonna, I. 1567 01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,400 Speaker 3: Mean, you're gonna get it here, Gonna get a chance here, 1568 01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:49,240 Speaker 3: Gonna get a chance. 1569 01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:52,719 Speaker 4: You're gonna get here, Gonna get a chance somewhere. 1570 01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,880 Speaker 2: Because I think he definitely he definitely earned it. He 1571 01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,479 Speaker 2: played extremely well and he deserves that opportunity. So we'll 1572 01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:02,519 Speaker 2: see where he ends up going. But Mike Emmons is 1573 01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,120 Speaker 2: going to the San Francisco forty nine ers