1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: This is the Action Network podcast. 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: But this one is good. All right, here we go. 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: We're throwing in job speak. 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: We're sitting. 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: It's a catch touchtop. 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 3: We see most gamblers when they go to gamble, they 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 3: go to wind. 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: That's incredible, big bank, small banks. 9 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 2: I like to make money. 10 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: All right, this is the ultimate kabai you want to pass. 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: And we are under way. 12 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast. I'm your host, Brandon 13 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: Anderson here with Raheem Palmer. Getting you're ready for week 14 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 1: thirteen Action with another strong side Friday's episode. We missed 15 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: a guy's last Friday offer that Thanksgiving holiday. We are 16 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: back to run through some of the top games of 17 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: the week this week. Not a lot of top games 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: this week, kind of a weird sleigh. 19 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: What do you make of everhem, I think the biggest 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: thing to to see right now is that there's a 21 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: lot of heavy favorite partals, Bears quotes, Texans, Chiefs, Broncos. 22 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: So we're just trying to get to the best games 23 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: this week, the most entertaining games, and hopefully give you 24 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 2: some information which to help me make some money. 25 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. So like usual, we're gonna hit our 26 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: what we think are the top three games for Sunday 27 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: and do matchups, analysis, betting angles, the whole works, and 28 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: then we will get to our best bets for week 29 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: thirteen and then hit the look ahead for next Sunday. 30 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: Don't forget to download the app, of course, and make 31 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: sure to subscribe to the podcast as all is odds 32 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: are from BETMGM. Let's get down to business and talk 33 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: about our games of the week. 34 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 2: Let's get down. Let's get down to business. So let's 35 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: get down. Let's get down to business. 36 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 4: Let's get so. 37 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: Of course, just so, as mentioned, the real game of 38 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: the week this week comes Monday night. That's New England 39 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: in Buffalo Patriots Bills. We will cover that one. We 40 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: did cover a little bit already, so check the Monday podcast. 41 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: Both Raheem and I took New England on the hot Read. 42 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: We'll cover that one on the future Monday podcast that's 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: coming to you that we will record Sunday night and 44 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: give you a whole breakdown of that one. So that 45 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: one is coming today. We're gonna start out with the 46 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: Chargers and the Bengals. So in that early Sunday window, Rahem, 47 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: you mentioned lots of big favorites this week. I think 48 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: there are five touchdown or more favorites in that early window. 49 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: This really is the one close, unpredictable perhaps game in 50 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 1: that window. So right now Bengals favored by three at home, 51 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: basically the standard home line in there. So my first 52 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: question for you on this one, which of these two 53 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: teams would you rather face in the playoffs right now? 54 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: If you're a playoff team, and I know matchups and everything, 55 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: but just generally speaking, which opponent here scares you more? 56 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 4: Yeah? 57 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: This is really, really, really tough. I think when you 58 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: look at these two teams, the Chargers have the better offense, 59 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: but their defense is so bad that when you look 60 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: at the Chargers, they're twenty third in defensive DVO away 61 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 2: they could run on they has some injuries. Whereas I 62 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: think in the playoffs, you're facing the Bengals team which 63 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: has a little better defense. You're not just gonna be 64 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: able to just run the ball over the Bengals the 65 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 2: way teams have been doing against the Chargers. 66 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: So I would rather face the Chargers. Yeah, that's interesting. 67 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: It probably depends, of course, on who you are. To me, 68 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: I think it's a variant sort of thing. The Bengals, 69 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: I think have a safer floor. We've seen the bottom 70 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: really drop out on the Chargers, especially in the recent weeks, 71 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: but I don't think the Bengals can match the ceiling 72 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: of the Chargers. The Chargers, if they play their best, 73 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: especially if the offense is playing their best, are still 74 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: maybe as scary as any team in the AFC. Like, 75 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: if they come out and play their best ball, they 76 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: can just beat you straight up no matter how well 77 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: you're playing. I don't know if I think that about 78 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: the Bengals. I think I don't think that about the Bengals. 79 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: And the Bengals can come out and play tough and 80 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: make you fight for it, but the Chargers could just 81 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: straight up beat you. And so that's informing how I'm 82 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: looking at this game a little bit, because what I'm 83 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: wondering here, So Bengals by three. It was three and 84 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: a half earlier this week when I wrote about this one, 85 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: So I took Chargers then at three and a half. 86 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: Are we sure the right team is favored here? Should 87 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: the Bengals definitely be favored? Are they the better team? 88 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: I think you will. You have to make the Bengals 89 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: favorite at home. I just don't think that they should 90 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 2: be favored by three and a half. When you look 91 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: at the look ahead game look ahead line for this game, 92 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 2: it was Bengals minus win and a half. So I 93 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: think the value lies on the Chargers. 94 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the line is getting inflated a little 95 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: bit by some recency bias. I think you probably agree 96 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: with that. So last week, of course, the Bengals destroyed 97 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: the Steelers forty one to ten. Is in the week 98 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: before they crushed the Raiders thirty two to thirteen. So 99 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: right now it's all in on the Bengals and the 100 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: Chargers law in Denver and weren't really super competitive, So 101 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: everything leans momentum wise for the Bengals. But momentum isn't 102 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: necessarily a thing, and certainly not from week to week. 103 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: The Bengals right before those two big wins lost forty 104 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: one to sixteen to the Browns, their worst game of 105 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: the season. The game before that they lost to the Jets, 106 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: who are not good. So it just to me if 107 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: this game was two weeks ago, well what the line 108 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: have been. I think very different Because we're feeling good 109 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: about the Chargers. We're not really sure if the Bengals 110 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: or even a playoff team suddenly now we get a 111 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: couple of these results, and I think the line moves 112 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: and gives a lot of value here. Do you agree 113 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: that there's some recency buyas kind of playing to the 114 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: line here. 115 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, without a doubt. When you look at the 116 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: fact that, like you said before, they gave him thirty 117 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: four points to the Jets and Mike White and lost outrun. 118 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 2: They gave him forty one points to the Browns. The 119 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: Browns haven't been able to score since they put up 120 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: ten points on this band Baltimore Deepense, So there's plenty 121 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: of biascare. And then I think when you actually dig 122 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: into the match, like really dig into it. Justin Herbert 123 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: struggled last week against the Broncos team which blitz is heavily. 124 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 2: This is not something that the Bengals do. The Bengals 125 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: don't blitz time. So I think this is a matchup 126 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: with Justin Herbert can thrive, and he can get the 127 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: ball to Mike Williams, and he can get the ball 128 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: to Keenan Allen. You look at the Bengals, there's sixteenth 129 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: in Football Outsiders Defensive DBA, but they played the twenty 130 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: seventh ranks schedule of opposing offense. So they haven't played 131 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: too many offenses that were really as good as this 132 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 2: discharges offense. So I think this is a step up 133 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: in competition. Like I said before, look aheadline was one 134 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 2: and a half. Now you get plus three the values 135 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: on the Chargers. 136 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, it's easy. If you watched last week 137 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: or you saw the highlights, what you saw was a 138 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: big fan against the Bengals, just constantly under pressure, like 139 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: dude is just getting hit on every single play, and 140 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: so it's easy to see that and be like, oh man, 141 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: the Bengals their defense, they're really coming at it and 142 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: they're going to make life hard for Herbert. You know, 143 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: won't be easy, but the secondary has been beatable. And 144 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: let's just be honest, justin Herbert, not Big Ben, like 145 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: that dude's a statue back there, or big Ben is. 146 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: Herbert can move around, Herbert can create kind of go 147 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: do his thing and get out of the pocket and 148 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: make them space by a little time, all things that 149 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: Big Ben doesn't do anymore. I guess ironic that Big 150 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: Ben doesn't have time at this point. But the Chargers offense, 151 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: like you talk about DVA. We talked about DVA a 152 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: lot because it's a way to take scheduling into account 153 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: and opponent's strength into account. Right now, Los Angeles is 154 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: the number two DVA offense in the entire league. If 155 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: someone told us that a couple of weeks ago, you'd 156 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: be like, oh, yeah, of course the Rams are the 157 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: number two offense. No, no, not the other Los Angeles 158 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: to the Chargers, and it is. It is giving them 159 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: a little too much credit. They're pretty far behind number one, 160 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: who is Tampa. You're actually closer to number sixteen and 161 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: off than to number one. But even so, the offense 162 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: is good their top ten and passing and running. Herbert 163 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: is good and can make some plays, and the Chargers 164 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: pass blocking has been to really improve this year too, 165 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: So I agree. I like the Chargers here. The one 166 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: thing that does give me some concern. Do you worry 167 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: that Joe Mixon could just run on this team and 168 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: just control the clock and get kind of a little 169 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: bit what we saw last week where the Chargers aren't 170 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: in it because Mixon's running all over a team. 171 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: A lot of last week was justin Herbert struggled, and 172 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: you know, this team only had ten points midway through 173 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: the third quarter. So I think it's going to come 174 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: down to the Chargers' offense, like that's that's how you 175 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: mentioned it earlier. The Chargers have a higher ceiling and 176 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 2: it's because Justin Herbert. So, if the Chargers can score 177 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 2: points that we think they will be, they're going to 178 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: cover and possibly win this game. If they don't, then 179 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: you're gonna have a situation where the Bengals go his 180 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: team out and they're running the ball down their throat. 181 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: So it's a passingly at the end of the day, 182 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: if you've got to be bad in one area, you'd 183 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: rather beat them be bad at running. 184 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: So yeah, I totally agree. We're on the same side 185 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: of this one. One other trend to note something we've 186 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: talked a lot about all season long short road dogs 187 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,599 Speaker 1: this season, so a touchdown or less fifty three and 188 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: twenty two against the spread, seventy one percent cover rate. 189 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: That is a huge, huge trend in our favor. Short 190 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: road dogs are forty two and thirty two straight up. 191 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: So if you play the money line here, that trend 192 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: has been fifty five percent ROI on the season. 193 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 4: I like the. 194 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: Chargers, You like the Chargers. I'm gonna play the money line. 195 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: Are you playing money line? Too, or just sticking with 196 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: a spread. 197 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 2: I'm just sticking with the spread. I actually put it 198 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: in my contest, so I'll be playing plus three and 199 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: a half. 200 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: All right. So we agree on the Chargers one underdog. 201 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: Let's go to another underdog spot here, Baltimore and Pittsburgh. 202 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: I love this game historically. I love this game. I 203 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: love this rivalry. This is like black and blue football, 204 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: smash mouth in the face, hit me back, like keep 205 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: punching and see whose staggers. First. We know how this 206 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: rivalry has gone over the ears is seems like whatever 207 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: is the case, it allays feels close. So that makes 208 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: me immediately see this line Baltimore on the road giving 209 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: four and a half points, and think, man, this line 210 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: feels a little high. But we just talked about Pittsburgh. 211 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: They got crushed by the Bengals last week. So my 212 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: first question is we're you know, you and I into 213 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: the season, we really dumped on Pittsburgh. We had a 214 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: lot of Steelers slander on our preseason takes. Were we 215 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: right all along and got kind of duped into thinking 216 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: that they were hanging around? Or do you think there's 217 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: some fight left for the Steelers? 218 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: I think there's some fight left. I think when you 219 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: look at the Steelers, they struggle with the Bengals all like, 220 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: sometimes the team just has your number. That doesn't necessarily 221 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: make you a bad team. Now, I don't think anybody, 222 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: any of we definitely didn't think the Stewers were going 223 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 2: to be a great team coming into this year. Like 224 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: what they beat Buffalo. Obviously they lost in the Raiders, 225 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: who's very underrated, but tourre losses to come against the 226 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: Bengals and this is the Bengals team, which I mean, 227 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: they look like they're headed for the playoffs. There's a 228 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: lot of parody this year in the league, and to me, 229 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: when you look at this matchup, it's more about Baltimore 230 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: than it is Pittsburgh. Baltimore is just as average as Pittsburgh. 231 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 2: Like Baltimore, to me, they're the most fraudulently eight and 232 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 2: threeteen that we've seen in recent memory, despite being their 233 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 2: first in the AFC. But they have a point differential 234 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: of plus twenty three, which is seven behind the Patriots, 235 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: the Bills, the Bengals, the Coats, the Broncos, and the Chiefs, 236 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 2: and they have a Potaggora expectation of just six wins. 237 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 2: So this eight and three team is playing like a 238 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 2: six win team. They're basically floating on the knights. They 239 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: need to comeback wins to defeat the Chiefs, the Lions, 240 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 2: the Coats, the Vikings, and the Bears. So I think 241 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: when you look at this game, this is gonna be 242 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 2: a classic Steelers versus Ravens game. Whoever wins this game 243 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: probably gonna win by three. And with the still was 244 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: getting embarrassed last week, I think this is a good 245 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 2: bounce back spot for them. What do you think? 246 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? I agree if you look at the history between 247 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: these teams we talked about a little bit, So of 248 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: the last twelve matchups between the Ravens and Steelers, eight 249 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: games have been down to one score the last during 250 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: that stretch, six of them in Pittsburgh, five one score games. 251 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: Baltimore only had one win in that stretch over the 252 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,599 Speaker 1: last six years by more than three. So enough to 253 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: actually cover this, you know, I listened on our podcast 254 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: on the Wednesday night Thursday episode from the six Pack. 255 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: Stuckey had a great stat on here since John Harby 256 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: arrived in Baltimore, favorites of either one in this rivalry. 257 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: So Pittsburgh or Baltimore if they're favored by three or more. 258 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 1: Favorites are one thirteen and two against the spread. You 259 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: just don't win by more than a field goal in 260 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: this rivalry. So I think that the line is too high, 261 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: and I agree the Ravens just don't seem super impressive. 262 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: Like we know that the Steelers' offense is not looking 263 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: at the Steelers really aren't good at anything. Let's be honest, 264 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: the Steelers. If you look at their dvaway, you can 265 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: look at run attack, passing attack, run defense, passing defense 266 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 1: bottom ten in all four of them. This is not 267 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: a bet on the Steelers necessarily, but it is Pittsburgh 268 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: at home where they're good, where they've been good, underdog spot. 269 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: And the thing is that Baltimore's isn't much better. Like 270 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: we knew that Pittsburgh's offensive line would be a big problem, 271 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: it has been. I think Baltimore's offensive line is a 272 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: big problem in this game. Their line has not been 273 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: much better than Pittsburgh. It's bottom five almost in a 274 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: lot of the metrics if you look at it, and 275 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: they're especially bad against pass blocking. Well, what's the one 276 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: thing Pittsburgh still does well? They rush the passer. They 277 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: always get after the passer, and so I think that 278 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: could be a problem in this game. I think it's 279 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: going to be one of those classic ugly raven Steelers 280 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: hard to come by a point. And you know, when 281 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: you're looking at like an under and a low scoring 282 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: game four and a half, it's just a lot of 283 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 1: points to cover. 284 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean without a doubt. And I think 285 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 2: the biggest thing is the Ravens have struggled on defense 286 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,599 Speaker 2: this year. They're twenty if it dropped back EPA to 287 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: play and they're dead last and explosive play rate on defense. 288 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: So I actually think this is a game at which 289 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: the Steelers can put up good off and look, all 290 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: Ben has to do is get the ball out quick. 291 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: He gets the ball out court to Deontay Johnson and 292 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: Chase Claypool, and I think they can make some big 293 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: plays with yards answer their catch. And I think this 294 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: Ravens defense can really be beat. And obviously you look 295 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: at their offense. The offense is completely fell off a cliff. 296 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: This team can't run the ball, and outside of Lamar Jackson, 297 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 2: this team can't run the ball period. And you look 298 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: at the last three games, and I know Lamar didn't 299 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 2: play for one of them, but they scored ten points, 300 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: sixteen points, and sixteen points against the Dolphins, Bears in 301 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: the Browns the last three weeks, and then this team 302 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: all year long. They've struggled with getting off to the 303 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: hot starts. They're just twentyth and first half points per game, 304 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: ten point three points per game in the first half 305 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: of these games, and that's why they have to come 306 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: back and Look, the big trend in this game is 307 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin. As an underdog forty two, twenty one and 308 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: two sixty seven percent against the spread. As a home dog, 309 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: he's twelve three and two eighty percent against the spread. 310 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: This is a positive expected value wager. I know there's 311 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: spend some money on the Ravens pushing this line to 312 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: four and a half, but I'm all over the Stills here. 313 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 2: I'm taking them at plus four and a half and 314 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: I'm taking them in the contest at plus three and 315 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 2: a half. 316 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I'm on those Tomlin trends as well 317 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: as a home dog. The Tomlin and the Steelers have 318 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: covered six times in a row, so definitely that's been 319 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: going well. Even as a big Ben has kind of 320 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: fallen off a cliff. Well, that's being factored into the line, 321 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: so that's already that's why this line is so high. 322 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: Otherwise it certainly wouldn't be the Baltimore is playing. And 323 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: I'm on the money line too. Tomlin as a money 324 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: line underdog thirty four and thirty one, so he's got 325 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: a winning record as an underdog. Thirty two percent ROI 326 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: this year as an underdog. Steelers are three and three 327 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: and another. You're thinking like, oh, well, that's not that exciting. No, 328 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: it is. Because it's an underdog. We're getting plus juice 329 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: on it. So thirty nine percent ROI this year on 330 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: the money line. So I know. I took Pittsburgh last week. 331 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: It did not go well for me. It was a 332 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: very bad pick. Cincinnati destroyed them. You've got to have 333 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: a short memory as a better you can't be looking 334 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: at last week and being like, oh man, Pittsburgh burned me. 335 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: I'm out. 336 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: I can't do it. 337 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: I can't bet them again. The books know that, Like, 338 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: that's exactly what all of us are thinking. Nobody wants 339 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: to play Pittsburgh right now. That's why we have to 340 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: play them in the spot. So I'm on the four 341 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: and a half. I'm on the money line plus one 342 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: eight a m. Seeing out there, I'm assuming you are 343 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: again on the spread, but not the money line here. 344 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and before we move on, I think it's important 345 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 2: to note that Joe Hayen we back for this game, 346 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 2: and he's just you know, he's bigfer than that corner. 347 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: TJ. 348 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 2: White might not play, but I still think this is 349 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 2: a good spot for the Stills. I think the market 350 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 2: is really overvaluing the Baltimore Ravens. It's only so well. 351 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 2: I say this every week, jay Z. Like jay Z 352 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: said in the takeover, it's only so long fake does 353 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: to pretend the Ravens are a faked We're gonna take it. 354 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 2: We can run with Stewarts. 355 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, this this just feels like a week I took 356 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: a lot of underdogs in my picks. It feels like 357 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: one of those weeks where things kind of balance out. 358 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: We've got a lot of these big favorites that look 359 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: like they're a little bit overrated, and it feels like 360 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: a spot where we're gonna even out some of these 361 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: records that were waiting on all year. So one more 362 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: spot where I think that could happen is our other 363 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: big afternoon game San Francisco in Seattle. San Francisco is 364 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: giving three and a half points on the road to 365 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. So we all watched Seattle Monday night. Was 366 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 1: is that the end? You look at the playoff pick, 367 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: they put the graphic on the screen. We got fourteen 368 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: NFC teams in the playoff picture. The only two that 369 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: are not are the loebegone Detroit Lions, who haven't won 370 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: a game, and the Seattle Seahawks at three and eight 371 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: if they're the one team with the Lions hanging out 372 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: at the kids table. So it was Monday night the 373 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: end for Seattle? Is this the end for Russell Wilson 374 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: or do you think they still have any fight left 375 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:23,479 Speaker 1: in them? 376 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: It's tough to say a team with Russell Wilson that 377 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 2: it's not going to have any fight in them. But 378 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 2: he looks bad right now and like he's missing throws 379 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: all over the place. He's twenty eighth in success rate, 380 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 2: he's twenty second in EPA for play completion over expectation. 381 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: He's just really struggling right now. This is not Russell 382 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 2: Wilson out there. DK metcalf Is. You know he's had 383 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 2: some issues with this team right now, and then the 384 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 2: defense is bad, so I don't want to say this 385 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 2: is the end. I actually think there might be some 386 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 2: value on the Seahawks this week. I think you take 387 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: to the Seahawks. What's your thoughts on this game? 388 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, I again another underdog spot. I like because San 389 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: Francisco is playing really well. I actually like San fran 390 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: I will come back to them on the look ahead 391 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: in fact, but that doesn't mean you take them every 392 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: week and you can win this game, perhaps even without covering. 393 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: So you've got to make the distinction there. Russell Wilson 394 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: twenty four to twelve and two against the spresent underdog 395 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,239 Speaker 1: sixty seven percent cover rate. We know Seattle is tough 396 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: at home. DK metcalf has been really good against the 397 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: Niners too, and their pass defense has not been great. 398 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: They actually have allowed the third most yards to wide 399 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: receiver one, So I think it could be a big 400 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: DK game. Possible prop there if you want to play it. 401 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: San Francisco too as well as they're playing, and they've 402 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: been like I think the number one EPA offense or 403 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: the last month or so. That's because they finally got healthy. 404 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: They got Trent Williams back, who is probably the best 405 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: offensive line in the league, maybe one of the best 406 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: non quarterbacks in the entire NFL. They got George kittleback, 407 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: all that's great, but now they lost Deebo Samuel and 408 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: that's a huge deal. Sattle's run defense is kind of solid, 409 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: their pass defense to where you beat them, and Deebo 410 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: has been the big weapon that could really hurt them. 411 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: San Fran lost Fred Warner too. It's a big loss 412 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: on defense, especially with Russell Wilson's ability to kind of 413 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: scramble and create. So this is a spot I think 414 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: where San Fran has all the momentum right now, they've 415 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: got all the wins. But if you look at a 416 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: trend teams on a three game losing streak like Seattle, 417 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: when they play a team on a two or three 418 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: game winning streak, we know that line's going to be inflated. 419 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: Here's what happens those teams on the losing streak fifty 420 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: nine to thirty two and two against the spread, they're 421 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: covering sixty five percent of the time. That's a huge number. 422 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: Two thirds of the time they're covering. They've covered seven straight. 423 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: They're two to zero this year in a league of parody. 424 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: This is a parody spot where you say, look, Seattle 425 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 1: is down and out, but this is the season Russell 426 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: Wilson's going to play with pride. I think he's he's 427 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: clearly not great, but it's getting a little better. That 428 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: throwing was a little better last week. I think Seattle 429 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: just does enough here to be able to hang around 430 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: and have some value here. 431 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 2: You know, I initially grabbed the two and a half 432 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 2: with the with the forty nine ers as I was 433 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: watching the game against the Washington football team, But I 434 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: think the fort nineers are dealing with some injuries. Obviously 435 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: you got Fred Warner out, you got Drake greenloll out, 436 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 2: Deebo Stanmiuel with who you mentioned. That's a big loss 437 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 2: for this team. So I'm probably gonna buy back on 438 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 2: my position and grab the Seahawks at plus three and 439 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 2: a half and just hope that it lands in the 440 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: middle somewhere. But I really don't want much to do 441 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: with this game. With the way Russell Wilson is playing 442 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: right now, He's just not accurate right now. The Seahawks 443 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 2: defense really isn't good right now. But on the other 444 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: side of the ball, the Fortnights are playing so well. 445 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 2: I just don't know how you fade this team. But 446 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: when you look at the trends, the Seahals have really 447 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 2: dominated this team in recent They're fourteen to five and 448 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 2: one the last twenty matchups against the spread. And I 449 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 2: mean this could be matchup where Pete Carroll and Russell 450 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 2: Wilson could get it done. They're just, yeah, a veteran quarterback, 451 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: You're never gonna expect them to compute. We give up. 452 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: So, yeah, you said I don't know how you fade 453 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. Right now I got your answer 454 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: for you. Ready. It's Kyle Shanahan. Kyle Shanahan is a favorite. 455 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: It's how you fade the forty nine ers. 456 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 4: We know this. 457 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: We've talked with the numbers a lot of times. Shanahan 458 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: is two and seven straight up against Pete Carroll, so 459 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: we know it's not a good matchup. Including one in 460 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: two as a favorite, Kyle Shanahan eleven twenty two and 461 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: a one against the spread as a favorite, that is 462 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: abysmal thirty three percent cover rate. Oh wait, it gets 463 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: worse as a road favorite. Kyle Shanahan four fifteen and 464 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: one as a road favorite. Against the spread twenty one 465 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: percent cover rate. The forty nine ers as road favorites, 466 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: had failed to cover nine straight times until they did 467 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: it in Minnesota last week. So it's a bad spot 468 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: for Kyle Shanahan. It's just as a favorite not getting 469 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: the job done. Money lines against Shanahan the last two 470 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: years sixty nine percent ROI. So you want to bet 471 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: against Shanahan in the spot like you said, all three 472 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: of these games, I think if the line was a 473 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: little lower, it feels like a minus two or two 474 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: and a half, I'd be very tempted to just ride 475 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: the better team. But when we're getting above the key number, 476 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: we're getting a little too much value here. We gotta 477 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: like the underdog. So I'm on sale three and a 478 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: half again. I'm gonna take the money line, keep going 479 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: with a trend here plus one fifty. In fact, if 480 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: you want, if you want to get aggressive Chargers Ravens 481 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: Seahawks money line, parlay plus sixteen to one, so you 482 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: can get sixteen oh one return if all three of 483 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: those come through, I know you're not going to play 484 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: that one. If you had to do one money line 485 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: out of these three dogs, we liked all the Dogs, Chargers, 486 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: Ravens or Seahawks. Which money line? Sorry, Chargers, Steelers or Seahawks? 487 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: Which money line would you play? If you picked one? 488 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 2: I had to play one. 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We've already made these picks on our app, 524 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: on the website at actionework dot com on social media. 525 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: So raheem, what is your first bout this week? I 526 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: think you gotta teaser on the way for us, y'all. 527 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: I actually have a teaser, but I think I'm gonna 528 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 2: go with my other pick that I like. I like 529 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 2: this other pick I like to Washington football team this week. 530 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 2: Look the Raiders. They defeated a banged up Cowboys team 531 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 2: in a game where the opponent was flagged fourteen times 532 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty six yards with four pass interference 533 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: penalties against the same guy on third and long. Look, 534 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: they they played well against a banged up Cowboys team 535 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 2: and a Cowboys team which just struggled defensively. But when 536 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: you look at their three games previously the Giants, the Chiefs, 537 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 2: the Bengals, they scored sixteen, fourteen to thirteen points respectively. 538 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 2: Tarrell Heineke is first an EPA to play composite over 539 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 2: the last four weeks. It Washington football team offense is 540 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 2: seventh for EPA to play six and success rate Terry 541 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 2: McLaurin and Logan Thomas is gonna get off. I think 542 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 2: Antonio Gibson should be able to do some things on 543 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 2: the ground, and this Raiders defensive really struggling. They gave 544 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 2: up forty They gave him twenty three, forty one, thirty 545 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 2: two and thirty three against the Giants, Chiefs, Bankals and 546 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: Cowboys over the last four weeks. This is going to 547 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: be a shootout. But look at the fact that there's 548 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 2: no Darren Waller for the Raiders. That's their big turf. 549 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 2: No Darren Waller. Sean Jackson actually popped up on an 550 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: injury would report. This office has really struggled outside of 551 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 2: their game against the Cowboys without Henry Rugs a third. 552 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 2: Give me the Washington football team plus three. Take them 553 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 2: on a money line too. That's another dog that I like. 554 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 2: If you want to sprinkle some some money on the over, 555 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 2: you could do that as well. 556 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: It's an underdogs podcast today, and for my pick, I'm 557 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: actually gonna do a trend here more than a pick. 558 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: Sticking with the underdog theme, we said favorites this week. 559 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: We've got seven games with a team favored by a 560 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: full seven points or more. So let me just throw 561 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: up the caution here. You guys all know I love 562 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: my favorites they've not been kind to me lately. Last 563 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: week was a good week for favorites, but overall, these 564 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: big favorites are not covering. In November, favorites of seven 565 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: or more seven and fifteen against the spread, so failing 566 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: to cover sixty nine percent of the time by five 567 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: point two points a game on the money line. Underdogs 568 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: in November nine and thirteen's that's not just underdogs, those 569 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: are touchdown underdogs. And four more of those games were 570 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: lost by fueld goal or less, so they could have 571 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: been thirteen and nine. They were that close there. We 572 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: had a few very close losses, some big, big upsets. 573 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: So this is not a best bet per se. This 574 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: is the warning against you getting too confident in a 575 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: best bet on some of these big favorites. Here's the 576 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: favorites this week, to be careful with Rams, Bucks, Chiefs, Colts, Cardinals, Vikings, 577 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: and Eagles all seven or more point favorites. I talked 578 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: about a couple of them on the podcast last week. 579 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: But these favorites just aren't showing up, and we're seeing 580 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: this year nobody knows who's good and the standings just 581 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: keep compressing more and more. So be careful with those 582 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: favorites out there, be careful teasing them down. Hey, where 583 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: you're getting too close to the money line, we're seeing 584 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: some upsets. So that's my version of it. 585 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 3: Best bout? What's your other best bout? For Week thirteen? 586 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 3: I really like this teaser. Minnesota Vikings pick a Look 587 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 3: the Detroit Lions. They're not gonna win a game this year. 588 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 3: It's unfortunate, but it's just not gonna happen. Deandres Swift 589 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 3: is out. He's the guy that you know you want 590 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 3: to run with. Rykan should be able to win this game. 591 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 3: And then also New England Patriots. We're gonna tease that 592 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 3: up from plus three up to plus nine. 593 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 2: You want to get this now. I think there's some 594 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 2: plus threes in the market, Edition two and a half 595 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: in the market. The big reason why you want to 596 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: take New England on this teaser is that there's gonna 597 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 2: be some snow on Monday night. And this total his 598 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: dropped down from forty five to forty three and a half. 599 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: There's some forty threes forty two's in the market. And 600 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 2: we all know that your teaser and your points are 601 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 2: more valuable in a lower scoring gay. Obviously, the Buffalo 602 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 2: Bills that you can't really run the ball that well, 603 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 2: but the Patriots can't, so this is they're gonna be 604 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 2: able to keep this within the number. I think that 605 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: the Pacers are my favorite teaser leg of this week, 606 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: and the Lions go out there and beat me. They 607 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: go out there and beat but I don't see it happy. 608 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know me. I'm a Vikings fan and a 609 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: sports nihilist, so I'm gonna stay away from that just 610 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: because this could be I know, I must have said 611 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: this on every week. This could be that game that 612 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: finally is the last nail in the coffin for Zimmer 613 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: if they can't pull it out. It sure looks like 614 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: a game that the Vikings should pass all over Detroit 615 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: and get the job done. But the Vikings haven't really 616 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: done any shows this year very correctly, so I agree 617 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: with you on New England. We both like that. We 618 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: will talk more about that one on the Sunday Night podcast. 619 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: My other best bet, I'm going to the futures play here. 620 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: I've done an article that will be coming out at 621 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: Action Network on Friday, checking in on the MVP race. 622 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: You guys know I love the MVP race. I've been 623 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: big on Tom Brady all year. It's been my guy. 624 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm a little worried. Brady's got a tough schedule coming up. 625 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: They play the Saints, the Bills, they played twice against 626 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: the Panthers. Those are really tough defenses. He's not looked 627 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: quite as good lately. Antonio Brown still missing somehow with 628 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: whatever ankle injury has had. I'm getting a little nervous. 629 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: And we've said all year this MVP race feels just 630 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: wide open, like it feels like you could just almost 631 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: throw out everything we've seen so far and just see 632 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: who gets hot for the last six weeks. So I 633 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: did a little digging and I noticed I think we've 634 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: talked about this before. So if you look at EPA 635 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: expected points added over the last decade, throw at Adrian Peterson, 636 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: the one non quarterback to win. Throw at Cam Newton 637 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: because he's a unique sort of quarterback. Otherwise, the MVP 638 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: over the last decade has been number one in EPA 639 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: eight of the nine years, and they've been top three 640 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: in EPA plus completion over expected all nine years and 641 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: number one six of the time. So here's my question, Raheem, 642 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: do you know what quarterback so far this season is 643 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: number one in both EPA and completion overexpected. 644 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess that is probably Kyler Murray. 645 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: It is Kyler Murray, and that's my play here, so 646 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: you can get him at thirteen to one. And I 647 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: know it's an unprecedented sort of MVP. How do you 648 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,239 Speaker 1: miss the entire month of November basically and still win MVP? Well, 649 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: guess what all the other MVPs sucked in November? Like 650 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: not playing at all? It turns out is better than 651 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: all the terrible things that Like, here's what happened in November. 652 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: Josh Allen lost a couple of big games. Justin Herbert 653 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: fell up a cliff. Matt Stafford dug his own grave 654 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: and threw himself into it. Aaron Rodgers got COVID and 655 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: did the whole media thing like Dak Prescott. The Cowboys 656 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: are in a free fall. Who are the other MVP candidates? 657 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray almost just by stepping away and getting healthy 658 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: for a while. In good shape. The Cardinals are nine 659 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: and two. Kyler went healthy seven and zero. They're gonna 660 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: get Kyler back rested on a month. They're getting Nuke 661 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: Hopkins back case Edmund should. 662 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 2: Be back soon. 663 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: Schedule is looking a lot better now than it did earlier. 664 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: Bears Rams from Monday night where the Rams are not 665 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: looking good. That's in Arizona. You can basically clinch the 666 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: division there, Lions Folts another home game, and then Cowboys 667 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: and Seattle. There's some big spots for Murray to have 668 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: a big game. There's a real chance. We know that 669 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: MVPs come from winning teams. The Cardinals are a great 670 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: spot right now to get that NFC one seed, and 671 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: especially if you've got money on Brady already. I think 672 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: Kyler is a really important hedge at this point because 673 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: the Cardinals are the most likely team to stop the 674 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: Bucks from getting that one seed and put them in 675 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: the way. So Kyler Murray thirteen to one. That's basically 676 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: the number we got on Brady the start of the year. 677 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: Before Kyler got hurt, he was half of that. He 678 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: was like six hundred or six fifty. So I like 679 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: Kyler a lot. We've talked a lot about the MVP race. 680 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: Did I sell you on Kyler's odds at all? 681 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 2: I think it's interesting, But you know, I'm a little 682 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 2: I'm conservative with these type of things, but I think 683 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: I think you presented a good case, and I think 684 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 2: he comes back strong and he finishes out the season well. 685 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 2: I think you have a really good case. But the 686 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,439 Speaker 2: fact he missed so much Tom, it's just it's tough. 687 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 2: I mean, even with you saying that a lot of 688 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 2: these players didn't play well, Tom Brady still had to 689 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 2: drive this team back from a ten point deficit. You 690 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 2: look at Lamar Jackson, He's still got to win last week. 691 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 2: So it's tough to put a guy like Pop McCoy 692 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 2: actually came in and once a game. I think Dat 693 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 2: Prescott has kind of played his way out of it. 694 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 2: He's been really consistent as he came back from his injury. 695 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 2: I think Lamar has been really rough. But I think 696 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 2: you had the initial read correct the first time you 697 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 2: said Tom Brady, and I think he may end up 698 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 2: getting Yeah. 699 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: I still like my Tom Odds, but I think that 700 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 1: Kyler is a good haadch at this point. So it's interesting. 701 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: It's definitely a very open MVP race. I don't remember 702 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: when feeling this unpredictable. You know, we're in December now, 703 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: we have no idea who it's going to be. It's 704 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: Brady is like the default MVP, and no one is 705 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: really that about what he's been doing. You look in 706 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: those epas completion overexpected, but he's only like six seventh 707 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: eighth in those. You know, he's gonna have to be 708 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: a little better, I think to get it. So I'm 709 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: gonna a hope on him. But I do think Kyler 710 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: will have a shot if he comes back here. All right, 711 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: let's get out of here, but before we do, we 712 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: need to hit our week fourteen look ahead hot. 713 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 4: Rock by Ice Rights ice Cream. 714 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 2: So you know how we do? 715 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: We go ahead to next Sunday, get some early value. 716 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: You've got a really interesting one for next Sunday. So 717 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: what's your week fourteen look ahead? 718 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Saints Jets over forty three and 719 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 2: a half. I think this total is way too low 720 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 2: when I look at my model, actually have this around 721 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 2: forty seven. Look, I mean, I know the Saints offense 722 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 2: has really been struggling recently, but this is still a 723 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 2: really really bad jazz defense. I behave they rate towards 724 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 2: the bottom of every metric you could find, whether it's 725 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 2: success rate, whether it's EPA for play. The Saints are 726 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 2: gonna find some success hopefully at that point Alba Kamara 727 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: will be back in the lineup. And then when you 728 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 2: look at the other side of the wall, I think 729 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 2: the Stints have really been struggling defensively, and I just 730 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 2: think forty three is such a low total. You kind 731 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 2: of can call sneeze pass interference your way over to total. 732 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna grab that now. I'm not really that 733 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 2: crazy about anything else, but my model makes this a 734 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 2: lot higher. And then when you also you're looking at 735 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 2: six point spread, in order for the States to cover that, 736 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 2: it's kind of got to go over. So let's take 737 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 2: that over forty three and a half. I think it's 738 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 2: probably go up to forty five. Yeah, that's a rough 739 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 2: slate for Week fourteen. I had a pretty hard time 740 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 2: coming up with a look ahead to pick two. I'm 741 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 2: going to go with the forty nine ers on the 742 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 2: road plus two in Cincinnati. I know we just said 743 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 2: all those things about San Francisco earlier, but we said 744 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 2: a lot about Cincinnati too. The Niners are better than 745 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 2: the Bengals. They're a lot better than the Bengals, especially 746 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 2: the way that Niners are playing. It's possible that Deebo. 747 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: Samuel or Fred Warner could be back for that game. 748 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: Even if they're not, I just like sand Friend better. 749 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 1: And again, now you got an underdog spot. We're not 750 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: back in Canahan as a favorite dog, Shanahan as a 751 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: road dog. Sixty seven against the spread. So you know, 752 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: I think that the Bengals possibly lose the Chargers. We 753 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: both like that one. The Niners maybe lose the Seattle, 754 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: but might come out and win. I don't know if 755 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: this line is gonna move a ton before Sunday, but 756 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: I really doubt that we're gonna get it to a 757 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: three or three and a half. I don't think it's 758 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 1: gonna move that far towards Cincinnati. So I'm just gonna 759 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: take it now. I'm gonna make sure I get that 760 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: underdog spot. The plus two, who's been a key number 761 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: like three at times with all the weird ticking stuff now, 762 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: so that my strongest look ahead. But I like San 763 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: Francisco plus two in Cincinnati. 764 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 2: I'm not mad at that. I actually like this one too, 765 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 2: And I think the one thing I liked about this 766 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,760 Speaker 2: one is I think what makes the look ahead segment 767 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 2: that we do this week a lot tougher is that 768 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 2: you have a lot of teams coming off of bow weeks, 769 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 2: and in this segment, we're actually looking for games that 770 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 2: we feel like are gonna move, and with us picking 771 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 2: the Chargers, we could see this line going. So this 772 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 2: is a game that I actually liked as well, Whereas, 773 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 2: like a lot of some of these other games, a 774 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 2: team power rating isn't going to change when I don't 775 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 2: want to buy. So a lot of these numbers are 776 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 2: going to be there next week. I think this one 777 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 2: probably won't be there, especially if the forty nine is 778 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 2: pulled it off against the Seahawks and the Bengals loose. 779 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 2: As we're predicting, we like to chart, so yeah, I agree. 780 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: I think all these big favorites, like most of them, 781 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: are going to win still, and so then even if 782 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: you get kind of an ugly win, you're not going 783 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: to move the power ranking too much and their line's 784 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: not going to move a whole lot. So yeah, that's 785 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: probably what's happening here. But we will be back Sunday 786 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: and get some hot reads in. We will get I'm 787 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: sure some line movement by Sunday night, so we'll catch you. Then. 788 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: That is a wrap for today. On strong side Fridays, 789 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: make sure to download the app, rate, subscribe, and reviews 790 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: of the podcast. Him and our back first thing Monday 791 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: to run through the whole week thirteen slate for him Palmer. 792 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm Brandon Anderson and this has been the Action Network podcast. 793 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 1: Enjoy your weekend. 794 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:07,760 Speaker 2: Progna Dostibul needs broken, spare you. Constil means problem, Spastil 795 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 2: means problem. St