WEBVTT - Geoff Ogilvy - The Front Nine at Augusta National

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<v Speaker 1>tedomritrade dot com. Backslash Friday Egg member SIPC, Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to another edition of the Friday Egg Podcast. Today, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a Master special. Jeff Ogilvy came by our house

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<v Speaker 1>here in Augusta and we broke down the front nine

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<v Speaker 1>of Augusta and just kind of his thoughts playing it

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<v Speaker 1>the architecture. And we will have the front nine today

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<v Speaker 1>and then tomorrow Friday of Masters week, we will put

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<v Speaker 1>up the back nine. So enjoy, and without further ado,

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<v Speaker 1>here's Jeff Ogilvy. I miss a green, for example, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>already upset. When I find my ball in the bunker,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really upset.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I find my ball in.

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<v Speaker 1>A Frida Egg Friday Egg, Frida Egg, Frida Egg Friday

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<v Speaker 1>Egg Bright Egg, Lie, I'm about ready to run off

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<v Speaker 1>the golf. So you're you're in contention on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you thinking about before your Saturday Sunday rounds like,

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<v Speaker 1>is there stuff that worries you early on?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the first green might be the hardest green on

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<v Speaker 2>the course maybe, and certainly the first the hardest first

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<v Speaker 2>green in world tournament golf. I would say man Oakmont

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<v Speaker 2>is a well renowned, ridiculous first hole and a really

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<v Speaker 2>tough green to hit. But it feels like you're in

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<v Speaker 2>the lap of the gods a little bit at Oakmond

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<v Speaker 2>because you can land at the front right of the

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<v Speaker 2>green and maybe it stays on, maybe it runs over

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<v Speaker 2>the back. It's kind of you make bogey on the

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<v Speaker 2>first at Oakmond. You don't have to have done anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just part of Oakmond. You just hit you in

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<v Speaker 2>the face on the first hole and then you move on.

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<v Speaker 2>But the Masters, if you play the hole really sensibly,

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<v Speaker 2>you can get a nice birdy put on the first,

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<v Speaker 2>but if you hit it anywhere other than directly under

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<v Speaker 2>the hole, you have the hardest part in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And sometimes if you miss it past the hole, it's

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<v Speaker 2>even a hard bogie. It's a brutal, easy first tee

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<v Speaker 2>shot relatively, I mean, Tiger historically has struggled with it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a gentle first tee shot and a simple

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<v Speaker 2>looking iron shot until you realize what's up at the green,

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<v Speaker 2>and the green is so savage, really hard to hit

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<v Speaker 2>the ball under the hole too. The way the front

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<v Speaker 2>half of the green is because if you land it,

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<v Speaker 2>if you hit it short of a lot of pins,

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<v Speaker 2>it rolls off the front, so it encourages you get

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<v Speaker 2>it to pin. It was always trying to get you

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<v Speaker 2>to hit it to pin high, and if you hit

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<v Speaker 2>it to pin high just a bit past it, you

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<v Speaker 2>get a lot of stress. So it's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most un talked about. I guess it's more talked about

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<v Speaker 2>now because it's on the coverage more and people talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the first green more. But it might be the

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<v Speaker 2>hardest green on the course, especially because it's the first

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<v Speaker 2>hole and Ernie El's kind of showed that a few

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<v Speaker 2>years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh the false front you touched on it. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>there's got a lot of vicious ones. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>false fronts are like one of the best ways to

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<v Speaker 1>defend against the tour pro I think.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great way to really encourage, not quite force,

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<v Speaker 2>but really motivate a player to want to get it

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<v Speaker 2>to pin high, especially in a situation where past pin

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<v Speaker 2>high is going to ruin your day, Like you can't

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<v Speaker 2>just just kind of go one club less and chunk

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<v Speaker 2>it up to the front of the green on the

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<v Speaker 2>first You can't because it's the chip could come back,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the false front thing. So I think you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a really good way to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you look at standards, I mean, every green's

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<v Speaker 2>got one really goes in the valley of sin. That's

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<v Speaker 2>really what that is, right, It's a It's a good

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<v Speaker 2>way to do it because it really really it rewards

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<v Speaker 2>the player for being aggressive and hitting a quality shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Neathing too with it is for the lower trajectory player,

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<v Speaker 1>you like your regular guy. It's a way for it

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<v Speaker 1>to slow down the ball into it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's like the perfect for me. I go,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, the perfect mindset is how do I make

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<v Speaker 2>it easier for the eighth the ninety shooter, the alien handicapper,

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<v Speaker 2>and how do I make it harder for the scratch

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<v Speaker 2>player and the false front or at least the style

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<v Speaker 2>I do it here at the Masters, That's exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>it does. Because the guy can't spin. Is he's coming

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<v Speaker 2>in with his hybrid or his four iron or five iron,

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<v Speaker 2>he's running it up. It's actually a really nice screen

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<v Speaker 2>to run it up onto. But the guy who's flowing

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<v Speaker 2>it up there with spin with an eight iron, he

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<v Speaker 2>really has three or four yards to landity then that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a super precise shot for the elite player

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<v Speaker 2>and really quite a gentle, easy shot for the average player,

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<v Speaker 2>which is ideal. It's bringing those two guys closer together

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to some modern stuff where it's all carry

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<v Speaker 2>and big long stuff. It just separates that scratch and

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen handicappers so much that it kind of it's a

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<v Speaker 2>it's just super intimidating for the average guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that second shot on too, like the most fun

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<v Speaker 1>shot on the course? No, it was to Sunday pen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and no. The Sunday pin might be the funnest

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<v Speaker 2>pin on the course or one of I mean there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of fun pins on the course. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen on Sundays pretty fun. And that pin on seven

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<v Speaker 2>when they put it in that whole outspot and the

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<v Speaker 2>bowl on the right hand side, that's a fun pin.

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<v Speaker 2>But the one on two is hard. I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>always laid it up onto a little bit. My mentality

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<v Speaker 2>was if I could get it just in that front

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<v Speaker 2>right bunker or around that front right bunker, and two,

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<v Speaker 2>I was happy. You know, I missed the green left

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of times. I missed it in that left bunk,

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<v Speaker 2>or a couple of times on the green or short

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<v Speaker 2>left of that left bunker, trying to get really aggressive

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<v Speaker 2>a few times and worked out that that's not really

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<v Speaker 2>what you want to be and had some kind of

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<v Speaker 2>train rex on that hole. So I would always try

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<v Speaker 2>to hit it next to the bunker off the tee,

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<v Speaker 2>next to the bunker on the second shot, and you

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<v Speaker 2>can get it anywhere on the green close to the

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<v Speaker 2>hole if you're next to that front right bunk on two.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a super fun it's a fun shot to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>It might be one of the fun of shots to

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<v Speaker 2>watch on those guys at those long arms on the

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<v Speaker 2>top of the hill and they land on the front

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<v Speaker 2>of the green and they roll for about thirty seconds

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<v Speaker 2>all way up the back and they roll right next

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<v Speaker 2>to the hole. As a spectator. That would be a

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<v Speaker 2>great place to stand on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a lot of holes right around there too.

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<v Speaker 1>You could watch two, you could watch three, t you

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<v Speaker 1>can watch I mean it's cost to eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, eighteen seventeen, you're really not far from sixteen if

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<v Speaker 2>that is the sweet spot of the course really, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got seven green, two green, really kind of seventeen green,

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen fair. You can kind of whip across the fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of the heart of the course.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, there's that hill that everything plays into,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's similarly, you know, Mackenzie does that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of his places that focal point, and that's like it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of is the folk that's like it's such a

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<v Speaker 1>routing how they play down to it and then he

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<v Speaker 1>takes you away from it and he keeps bringing you

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<v Speaker 1>back at different points in the round.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a it's a great route. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>I think serendipitous. Really. I think they were fortunate how

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<v Speaker 2>it worked. He was obviously a genius router, and Jones

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<v Speaker 2>might have been the best golf mind ever, like when

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<v Speaker 2>it related to golf course and playing the course. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he was truly genius, but there was serendipity involved in

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<v Speaker 2>how it all worked out. I mean it just it

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<v Speaker 2>is such a good golf course to watch golf, and

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<v Speaker 2>you can pretty much from that point, from the second green,

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<v Speaker 2>seventh green, kind of eighth tea area, you can pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much get to every hole with a five minute walk almost.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you're kind of really central and people keep

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<v Speaker 2>You watch them come through two, and then you see

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<v Speaker 2>that same group come through seven, and then later on

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<v Speaker 2>they come back through seventeen. It's like, yeah, it's all

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<v Speaker 2>it's brilliant like that, because if it just went out,

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<v Speaker 2>like the old course is the old course and it's brilliant,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's a been awful course to watch golf, great

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<v Speaker 2>course to play golf, but to watch it's awful. But

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of matches all the creates, all the great

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<v Speaker 2>golf and it makes it great to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's incredible, almost like the Stadium course before the

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<v Speaker 1>Stadium course.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean everything about it is just I mean

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<v Speaker 2>your head to say say perfect, I mean there is

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<v Speaker 2>no perfect, but relative to everything else. If you want

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<v Speaker 2>to find for a great place to watch golf and

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<v Speaker 2>a place that's going to create great attractive golf to watch, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all right here. It's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an expansive property but intimate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it seems I don't think it's quite as big

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<v Speaker 2>as you think, but it seems so big because of

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<v Speaker 2>there's no real lines of trees. They're like cops of trees, right,

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<v Speaker 2>there's cops is the word, right, like groupings of trees.

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<v Speaker 2>But you stand at the clubhouse, you can pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>see across the whole course, which makes it seem like

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<v Speaker 2>this big kind of park. You know, it's like it

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<v Speaker 2>seems massive, big scale, fairways, big bunkers, but as you say,

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<v Speaker 2>intimate because everything kind of comes back, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>near each other. But because it's so big scale, it

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<v Speaker 2>seems big. But you realize that everything's kind of close

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<v Speaker 2>and that helps with the rules and the feel, and

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<v Speaker 2>you see you're constantly seeing other groups go up other

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<v Speaker 2>holes and stuff from feeling that you just you're you're

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<v Speaker 2>always kind of feel like you're part of the whole show.

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<v Speaker 2>You're never separated on one spot way away from anywhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be one of the cool things compared to

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<v Speaker 1>like your modern TPC choruses, the how close you are

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<v Speaker 1>to all the competitors when you're playing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's yeah, I mean you're teeing off on the

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<v Speaker 2>first and you're watching the guys hit into the ninth

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of sussing out the pin and where they're

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<v Speaker 2>hitting it. And then and that happens kind of all

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<v Speaker 2>the way around. You're playing down two and you're watching

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<v Speaker 2>him pitch into three, and then on seven, you're watching

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<v Speaker 2>you're walking down six, say, and you're watching the shots

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<v Speaker 2>into sixteen, and you can You're constantly kind of being

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<v Speaker 2>reminded of what's coming and what's gone and who's doing what.

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<v Speaker 2>It's nice to feel a part of it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of courses where you're just way out

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<v Speaker 2>there now right, Modern routings seem to just go wherever

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<v Speaker 2>they want and don't take that sort of thing into account.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's great to be out there with all the

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<v Speaker 2>competitors and playing partners and feel like you're part of

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<v Speaker 2>the whole show. That's the whole thing. It's just a

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<v Speaker 2>whole The whole thing is just one big show, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>A Buddy Mane Sean Martin did this. Strokes gained analysis

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<v Speaker 1>of winners and the golf course where they picked up

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<v Speaker 1>the most shots to the field, and the two holes

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<v Speaker 1>that came out on top were number three and number fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they're the two holes that you can have the

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<v Speaker 2>most docile seeming holes. No bunkers on fourteen three has bunkers,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're really easy to miss. You just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>hit some sort of well modern play. These guys all

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<v Speaker 2>seem to hit driver up short left of the green,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's just been a three or two or three

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<v Speaker 2>on or a hybrid these days to the top of

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<v Speaker 2>the hill and a wedge under the green, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>relatively simple. And four teen is driver in a nine

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<v Speaker 2>to nine or something. But they'd have two greens that

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<v Speaker 2>if you miss them in the wrong spots you have

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<v Speaker 2>almost zero chance to make par and a big chance

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<v Speaker 2>to make six or seven or eight. You can just

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<v Speaker 2>they turn you into idiots. That doesn't actually surprise me,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think everyone would have thought twelve or thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>or eleven or fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's.

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<v Speaker 2>The third I think is a genius hole because the

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<v Speaker 2>only way to really make birdie or get it close

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<v Speaker 2>is to really risk missing it short of the green.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you miss it short of the green, it's

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<v Speaker 2>almost an impossible up and down. It comes all the

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<v Speaker 2>way back and you're twelve feet below the level of

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<v Speaker 2>the green. To this crazy pitched green, and the only

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<v Speaker 2>way to get that pitch close if you do miss

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<v Speaker 2>it short is to risk leaving it short again. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>So once you've missed it short, unless you say, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to make five. And by the way,

0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:53.400
<v Speaker 2>it's not an easy five because your little pitch will

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<v Speaker 2>go twelve feet past the hole and at that'll break

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<v Speaker 2>six feet. And so if you want to have a

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<v Speaker 2>good score, if you want to make three, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to risk living it short. If you want to make four,

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<v Speaker 2>once you leave it short, you have to risk leaving

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<v Speaker 2>it short again. And that just kind of follows the

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<v Speaker 2>whole hole it's and fourteen is the miss on fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>is long right, but you'd ever't want to miss like

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<v Speaker 2>an eight or nine. Iine too, and they're usually it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Really hard to miss long right for a good player too.

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<v Speaker 2>It is especially rady, especially a righty. Yeah, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>the thing you usually miss short right orlong left right,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the genius on twelve, but it's a there's

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<v Speaker 2>the three of the four pins on fourteen generally are oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to make birdie there. It's kind of one

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<v Speaker 2>of your last birdie chances. You've got fifteen and sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>but seventeen and eighteen are really tough, so you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of wanted to get something going on fourteen. You've got

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<v Speaker 2>a nine, nine or eight iro into a pin that

0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:49.240
<v Speaker 2>it's all going to roll towards, but you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>have to risk landing it short of the green to

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<v Speaker 2>get it really close sometimes, and if you miss it

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<v Speaker 2>short of fourteen, you definitely I mean, that's a one

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<v Speaker 2>N ten up and down. So what fourteen is an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing green?

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<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite things I've heard you say, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think you said it. I'm not sure if you

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<v Speaker 1>said it on our pod or on the stay of

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<v Speaker 1>the game, but you said, like, the greatest holes are

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<v Speaker 1>the ones where if you want to make an easy

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<v Speaker 1>par it's like, you know, if you want to make

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<v Speaker 1>parts really easy, but if you want to make Birdie,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's really hard. So from what I'm hearing, like

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<v Speaker 1>three and fourteen are holes where if you're in the hunt,

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<v Speaker 1>your expectation almost changes. Where those are holes you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you got to get Birdie right, Yeah, yeah, for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>So all of a sudden it switches versus the tough

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<v Speaker 1>holes coming in where you're like, par is a good score.

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<v Speaker 1>So that expectation flip then brings bogie or worse into play.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like eleven is so obviously impossible. You're quite content

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<v Speaker 2>to go two fours and two fives to the week.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably that would be okay. You know, most winners of

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<v Speaker 2>the Masters probably have a bogie or two and eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>So you're quite happy. I am it away from the grain.

0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:57.560
<v Speaker 2>Everyone aims at the right edge of the grain and

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<v Speaker 2>tries to hit it in the right spot. And maybe

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday these modern roars and dustens and they're super

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<v Speaker 2>aggressive and they'll go for it. But generally you're quite

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<v Speaker 2>content if you make five on eleven. Oh well, everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>making five on eleven. But see three and fourteen. They

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<v Speaker 2>are legitimate birdie holes. But the only way to make

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<v Speaker 2>Bertie is to risk making bogie, which is the genius

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<v Speaker 2>of the whole course really and all great courses in

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<v Speaker 2>that they give the great player a par pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to make par, if you give up,

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<v Speaker 2>Bertie will give you a par. But as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>you want to make Bertie, that's when you bring bogie.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you want to make eagle, you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>bring double. In to me. That is absolutely perfect because

0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:37.240
<v Speaker 2>it's probably relatively easy for a good player playing well

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<v Speaker 2>to cruise around here, have a decent week, finish top twenty,

0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:42.840
<v Speaker 2>take no risks, put a nice check in his pocket,

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<v Speaker 2>and just walk away and get invited back next year

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<v Speaker 2>and happy days. But to win the tournament you have

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<v Speaker 2>to go for everything. And when you go for everything,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when it can all go wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>It almost too, becomes enhanced when you're in position two.

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<v Speaker 1>So like if you or because like if you're coming

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<v Speaker 1>down on that back nine and you're in fifteenth, you

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<v Speaker 1>know you have a shot if you play a great nine,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you're in fiftieth, like it is what it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is, yeah, yeah, it's It just makes you so nervous

0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:23.720
<v Speaker 2>this course, and the only way to make birdies and

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<v Speaker 2>have do great shots is to take on shots you

0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:29.120
<v Speaker 2>don't want to take on. Like on a normal week,

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<v Speaker 2>you just wouldn't hit that second shot to fifteen. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it looks like you're hitting a three on on the

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<v Speaker 2>top of a Volkswagen Beetle. It just wow, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a really, really hard shot. But if you want to win,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to hit it, and you've got to get

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<v Speaker 2>your head into that place where obviously guys like Phil

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<v Speaker 2>and Tiger seem to get it into that fearless swing,

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<v Speaker 2>that Rory kind of that that free swing. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, the only way I can hit this

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<v Speaker 2>shot is to be loose. But the difficulty of the

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<v Speaker 2>shot and the potential train wrecks the challenge is to

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<v Speaker 2>get loose with that much trouble around. It's really that's

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<v Speaker 2>to me, the whole essence of the Masters is to

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<v Speaker 2>swing loose with hyper aggressive, really risky plays, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>a really difficult thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the counterintuitive of GoF Like it's a really scary

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<v Speaker 1>shot and most people get cautious, and then when you

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<v Speaker 1>get cautious, you're dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Human nature is to like, well, this is risky,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm not sure about this. I'll just carefully, like

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<v Speaker 2>just feed it up there so I don't get any trouble. Well,

0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:25.680
<v Speaker 2>that's why you get into trouble, because you get careful

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny. I always say I'm like a scuba I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like a snorkeler when I play golf, Like if I

0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.320
<v Speaker 1>get a little under the water, i'm fine. But as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as I get certain spot, that's when I start

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<v Speaker 1>protecting and I start losing it. But that's what makes

0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:42.760
<v Speaker 1>you guys so great. You're nuclear subs. Like everybody that's

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<v Speaker 1>playing in the Masters, for the most part, has the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to get there. But then this is a golf

0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.600
<v Speaker 1>course that makes it even harder to get there because

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<v Speaker 1>it's even scarier.

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<v Speaker 2>Right it is, and I mean it's it's all part

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<v Speaker 2>of it. So the whole picture, I mean, the build

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<v Speaker 2>up to the Masters is outrageous. Every media official in

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<v Speaker 2>the world is here, everybody's watching. It's the one everybody

0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:05.919
<v Speaker 2>wants to win, at least in April. It's the one

0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:09.240
<v Speaker 2>everyone wants to win because it's the first one for

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<v Speaker 2>six or nine months. It sets up the whole year

0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:12.920
<v Speaker 2>for everybody. I mean, it sets up your career. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just such a huge deal. And it's a course that

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<v Speaker 2>just and so your kind of anxious performance anxiety anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's hard to be loose and free, but the

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<v Speaker 2>only way to play it well is to be loose

0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:26.159
<v Speaker 2>and free. So you've got that fight in yourself that

0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:28.080
<v Speaker 2>you're desperate to win or you really want to win

0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:32.440
<v Speaker 2>really badly, and that usually creates tension and tightness and

0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:34.480
<v Speaker 2>being careful. But the only way to play it well

0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:36.199
<v Speaker 2>is to be the other way around. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>look at historically, guys like Fred Kapple's play there every year.

0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:40.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's the pit of me of a loose skulfer.

0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:46.720
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's phil you know it's win or oh well,

0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:48.399
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter, like I just want to win. So

0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:51.960
<v Speaker 2>that's really those sort of guys are going to play well.

0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:54.040
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's why it's so hard for guys

0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:56.520
<v Speaker 2>when it like Rory at the moment when it becomes

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<v Speaker 2>their thing. You know, it was Norman and Duval and

0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Ernie Els and it was that they just every year

0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:05.199
<v Speaker 2>it gets harder to be loose, because how do you

0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:07.760
<v Speaker 2>that one thing you really want the world the most?

0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.760
<v Speaker 2>You have to be looser than every other week. That's

0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:12.719
<v Speaker 2>a really really hard thing to do, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you see with Tiger ever once once way Yang, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's like a fundamental thing, like nobody had

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<v Speaker 1>beaten them. He'd never lost in that moment, and he

0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:30.080
<v Speaker 1>lost in that moment. It's like he actually decided you

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<v Speaker 1>never had experienced it, you know, it's like you.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know, Yeah, there'd be an argument to say, like

0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:39.119
<v Speaker 2>a psychologist convention would sit down and like analyze the

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing. But if he'd lost one or two early, yeah,

0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:44.800
<v Speaker 2>he might actually still be winning more. Now he might

0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:46.360
<v Speaker 2>have ended up with more. I mean you saw Nick

0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Jack got comfortable with losing because I mean he won

0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:52.840
<v Speaker 2>a lot, but he finished second a lot and third

0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:55.600
<v Speaker 2>a lot. Tiger never lost. What was he like fifty

0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:57.680
<v Speaker 2>and oh when he started Sunday and the leaders something

0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:02.720
<v Speaker 2>outrageous number and when he's there's some Quite a lot

0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:05.399
<v Speaker 2>of the magic was gone obviously when Yang beat him,

0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:08.439
<v Speaker 2>because it had been going on for someone. At some

0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:09.639
<v Speaker 2>point he was going to lose, right, I mean, you

0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:14.080
<v Speaker 2>can't win forever. It's it's interesting. I mean obviously a

0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:16.000
<v Speaker 2>lot of other stuff happened too, but it is interesting.

0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Jack lost more than he won. So it's almost like

0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:23.399
<v Speaker 2>the loss the losses were he was a bit more

0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:25.760
<v Speaker 2>teflon for the losses. It was a bit more like

0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:30.399
<v Speaker 2>he didn't develop the scars because he was used to

0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:32.000
<v Speaker 2>losing along with winning all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy. It's like Goth for mortals is a game

0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:41.159
<v Speaker 1>of ninety nine percent failure. Like my buddy said this

0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:43.359
<v Speaker 1>to me, Like at one point he's like so that

0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:46.520
<v Speaker 1>one percent when you actually succeed is like it's the

0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:50.000
<v Speaker 1>greatest feeling in the world. And but for Tiger it

0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:52.520
<v Speaker 1>wasn't that way because and that's what makes you better

0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:54.480
<v Speaker 1>is the failure. It makes you better a lot of times.

0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, that's what they say, and you definitely learn

0:19:57.480 --> 0:20:00.199
<v Speaker 2>a lot more from when you get it wrong. Then

0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:01.720
<v Speaker 2>when you get it right. When you get it right,

0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:03.240
<v Speaker 2>you walk away and say how easy is this when

0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:05.480
<v Speaker 2>you get it wrong? As all, I've got to do

0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:07.520
<v Speaker 2>something better next time. You don't walk away from a

0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:09.800
<v Speaker 2>success and think I've got to do something better next time.

0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:11.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, or you don't see what you did wrong

0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:13.440
<v Speaker 2>because you won.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting through three usually were you thinking like we

0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I got to get off to a good start here

0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:22.160
<v Speaker 1>because of the n X few.

0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Horse you certainly want to be under before you're over

0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:27.439
<v Speaker 2>at the Masters. And if you've messed the first up,

0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:30.320
<v Speaker 2>which is very easy to do, you bog you the first,

0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:32.479
<v Speaker 2>it's not the end of your day because you've got

0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:34.400
<v Speaker 2>two and three. And as I was talking about three,

0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:36.040
<v Speaker 2>three is tricky, but it's still a BIRTI hole. You

0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:38.760
<v Speaker 2>still got a sandwich or a wedge. But two you

0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:41.800
<v Speaker 2>want to make bertie on two and hopefully be under

0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:44.040
<v Speaker 2>power before. You want to be one under on the

0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:47.399
<v Speaker 2>fourth t Maybe two that would be great because four's

0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:52.040
<v Speaker 2>incredibly difficult. Five he's going to be even harder now,

0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:54.120
<v Speaker 2>but it's always been tricky. Six, depending on the pin,

0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:58.080
<v Speaker 2>that's a little tough. That's a really tough stretch those

0:20:58.080 --> 0:20:59.560
<v Speaker 2>three holes. So, yeah, you want to be under before

0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:00.760
<v Speaker 2>you you want to be under before you're over.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven is a pin is a pin specific thing to

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<v Speaker 2>like six. Six with the pin low on the bottom

0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:07.679
<v Speaker 2>tier and seven with the pin in that bowl and

0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:13.760
<v Speaker 2>the right are legitimately decent birdy chances. But seven with

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<v Speaker 2>that pin on the kind of the high one on

0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:18.080
<v Speaker 2>the left just over the bunker where it crowns off

0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:20.000
<v Speaker 2>both ways, hard to hit it close, and it's playing

0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:21.600
<v Speaker 2>a little bit long, and it's early in the morning.

0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:23.320
<v Speaker 2>You get a five on into there, it's like, wow,

0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:26.000
<v Speaker 2>that's a really hard hole. And six with the pin

0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:28.080
<v Speaker 2>on the high tier, that crazy high thing on the right,

0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:32.760
<v Speaker 2>that is one of the toughest seven or eight onns

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<v Speaker 2>or six onnes you'll ever have. So they can flip

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<v Speaker 2>six and seven can go from easy to difficult, But

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<v Speaker 2>you can have that day where four, five, six, and

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<v Speaker 2>seven of four of the hardest holes on the course.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, you want to be under before you're over.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy did a strokes gained analysis Joe Peter. He

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<v Speaker 1>took all the trackers, he scraped it so he had

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<v Speaker 1>stroke gains statistics from last year. One of the things

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<v Speaker 1>he found there's only one double or worse on eight

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<v Speaker 1>and then but then there was very few eagles. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like one of the least varied holes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a tough eagle hole because I mean, you see

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<v Speaker 2>everyone gets in and watches on Saturday and Sunday and

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<v Speaker 2>doggrel phil or Rory or something and in this swinging

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<v Speaker 2>it in, but it's a really big two hits for

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<v Speaker 2>most players. Now there's no run on the fairway. That

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<v Speaker 2>bunker on the rod is really hard to avoid some reason.

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<v Speaker 2>It's quite magnetic because the left trees are really rough.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's no real train wreck on eight. Even if

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<v Speaker 2>you hit it in the left trees off the tia,

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of punch it up the hill, hit whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you can on the middle of the grain. It's quite

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<v Speaker 2>a receptive grain to hit it within twenty five feet

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<v Speaker 2>because it's high on both sides. It doesn't repel balls,

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<v Speaker 2>it brings them back towards the hole. So it's relatively

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<v Speaker 2>easy if you want it to make again. If you

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<v Speaker 2>want to make par and eight every time, easy as

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<v Speaker 2>just take a punch bowl. Yeah, it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>a punch bowl. And the fairway is really massively wide.

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<v Speaker 2>If you just safe out to the left, safe up

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<v Speaker 2>on top of you can lay it up as far

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<v Speaker 2>right as you want. You can hit it one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>yards right of the green. Long you got a football

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<v Speaker 2>field to hit it into right of the green. But

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<v Speaker 2>then it gets difficult to hit it close for three,

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<v Speaker 2>but hit it inside six feet for three or stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but hit it inside thirty feet quite easy. So if

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<v Speaker 2>there is, it's a birdie and parhole. Really, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>the whole field. That's what your stats say too. I

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<v Speaker 2>would have said, yeah, most of the half the field

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<v Speaker 2>make five, half the field make four kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking at the old pictures and there's center

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<v Speaker 1>line bunker is now the rate bunker. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>if they opened that right side up you'd see more

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<v Speaker 1>eagles because you're actually heading from the proper angle line.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a little bit. I mean they probably were ten

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<v Speaker 2>years in front. With the depth. How far that bunker

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<v Speaker 2>was from the tee. I mean it's a three ten

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<v Speaker 2>carry or something uphill, which is turning out to probably

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<v Speaker 2>be about right now. Right. But when they did it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been there my whole career pretty much. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was. I could sometimes not get it to the

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<v Speaker 2>bunker right. I was forty yards from carrying it, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a deep bunker, and it's a tricky shot out

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<v Speaker 2>of it, but it's not the worst. So people are

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<v Speaker 2>willing to take it on because again, if you hit

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<v Speaker 2>it in the bunker, then you just lay it up

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<v Speaker 2>and hit a wedge on the green and it's really

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<v Speaker 2>it adds half a shot, like it's not adding three shots,

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<v Speaker 2>like hitting it in the water on thirteen or something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't mind it. I don't. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a pretty good balance for how we're playing

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<v Speaker 2>right now. I think there's room on the course for

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<v Speaker 2>a par five that only the really strong guy I

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<v Speaker 2>can get to and too, and it's a really brave shot.

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<v Speaker 2>The second shot, it's you've got a hook quite solidly,

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<v Speaker 2>like some sort of three wood or something up and

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<v Speaker 2>to get it on the green to anywhere close, And

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<v Speaker 2>that's a really difficult shot off upslope. And whenever you

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<v Speaker 2>try to do that off an upslope, you generally miss

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<v Speaker 2>it right. And that hole allows you to miss it right,

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<v Speaker 2>so your brain says, okay, it's okay if I don't

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<v Speaker 2>hook this, So everyone generally just flares it out to

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<v Speaker 2>the right wedges it onto the green. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a good balance, Actually, I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's because when you miss the rate and then you're

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<v Speaker 1>tripping over those mounds, it's really hard to hit it close,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes it hard to make birdie.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's still a relatively easy path. Yeah, it don't

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<v Speaker 2>make it hard.

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<v Speaker 1>To make car it's but if you get the ball

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<v Speaker 1>over the left, especially with those rate pins, it's easier.

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<v Speaker 1>It's much easier to make it. So if you.

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<v Speaker 2>Breathe, yeah, I mean strategically it ticks every box right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>the more risk you take on the tee it's closer

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<v Speaker 2>to the bunker, the easier, the less you have to

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<v Speaker 2>hook your second shot on. The easier it is. The

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<v Speaker 2>more that the less risk you take off the tee,

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<v Speaker 2>then the harder it is to hit it on the green.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just exactly the same on the second show.

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<v Speaker 2>If you take no risk, the further right you go,

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<v Speaker 2>the hardier wedge. The further left you go, the easier

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<v Speaker 2>your wedge. But the further left you go, you risk

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<v Speaker 2>going down into all the flowers and the trees and

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<v Speaker 2>the rubbish. I mean, this course does that all the

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<v Speaker 2>way around. It ticks strategy one O one and in

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting different way all the way around it. They

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<v Speaker 2>just get it. It's just right.

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<v Speaker 1>Names the easiest driving hole right maybe statistically, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It's easy if you can turn it over. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>another one of those holes. It coaxes you into trying

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<v Speaker 2>to take more than you need to on like you

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<v Speaker 2>really want to hit a big high draw because it

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<v Speaker 2>goes further, like it has more of a forward bounce

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<v Speaker 2>rather than a sideways bounce. It's a relatively easy tea

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<v Speaker 2>shot to hit the fairway, but again it's a bit

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<v Speaker 2>like the second shot on eight. It kind of tries

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<v Speaker 2>to suck you into taking on more than you need,

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<v Speaker 2>and because you don't want, if you kind of flare

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<v Speaker 2>it a little bit, it's pretty easy to not hit

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<v Speaker 2>in the right trees, but you end up with this

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<v Speaker 2>downslope ball below your feet six iron into this green

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 2>that really isn't fit for that set up. So it

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:13.720
<v Speaker 2>encourages you to take on more than you want. And

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<v Speaker 2>you'll see a lot of guys hit it in the

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<v Speaker 2>left trees because they're trying to kind of get those

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:18.960
<v Speaker 2>big bounces and get it down the bottom of the

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<v Speaker 2>hill and like a wedge in which makes it relatively easy,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's hard to get it to that spot. So

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<v Speaker 2>easy to hit the fairway, but again it dangles the

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<v Speaker 2>carrot like it kind of sucks you when you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to take on more than you should.

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<v Speaker 1>It's this guy said that approach shot that front ball

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<v Speaker 1>is the easiest approach shot Joe with a stat on

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<v Speaker 1>the whole court, do you just say name?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Yeah, the front pin definitely one hundred percent,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's almost impossible to hit it over the ninth

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 2>green like it doesn't matter. It plays quite long because

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<v Speaker 2>it's depending on how far you hit it. It's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of uphill, and it effectively plays uphill because you're hitting

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<v Speaker 2>it off such an extreme people always end up sure,

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<v Speaker 2>always end up short because you're nine on or go

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<v Speaker 2>five or five, you're off such a downslope it's hard

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<v Speaker 2>to get it in the air the second shot, So

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<v Speaker 2>nine one goes really flat, so it hits the ground

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<v Speaker 2>before it normally would, and it's ain't bouncing forward unless

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:18.880
<v Speaker 2>it lands up top, so you can really take quite

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more club. Missing the green to the ride

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:24.919
<v Speaker 2>isn't a problem, so that front and anything really that

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<v Speaker 2>goes twenty or thirty feet past it will generally come

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:31.679
<v Speaker 2>back towards the pin. So yeah, that's certainly the easiest

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:33.199
<v Speaker 2>pin on the green, but it's also the one that

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<v Speaker 2>you can if you don't know what you're doing, you

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<v Speaker 2>can get it wrong too.