1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on Home of the Black and 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to the Drive. I'm 3 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: Dale Lally here with Matt Williamson. We're pleased to be 4 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: joined now on the phone by a Jim Wexel, of course, 5 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: the author of Paula Malu, The inspirational story of Pittsburgh 6 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: Steelers safety Troy Paula Malu, and of course the Jim 7 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: also has his website to steel City Insider dot com. 8 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: Has been down at the Steelers practices for O t 9 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: A s here watching them along along with myself and 10 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: and others down there, and I just wanted to get 11 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: Jim's takeaways, uh, from everything that has happened thus far. 12 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: We're only a couple of days into it, but still, uh, 13 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: we've got no chance to see a lot of the 14 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: rookies down there, not many of the veterans. Oh, Jim, Well, 15 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: we can talks a little bit about the rookies. But 16 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: there are a couple of things that you and I 17 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: were talking about that I'd like to rehash if we can. Yeah, 18 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: go ahead. One we were talking about I was talking 19 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: about how easy it is to play first base, and 20 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: the Pirates yesterday showed me that it's very, very very 21 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,919 Speaker 1: difficult if you're not paying attention to how many ounces. 22 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: I don't know that you didn't see it. Their first 23 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: basement with two outs, a ball is, there's a ball hit. 24 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: The third with a runner on second, there's two outs. 25 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: Third basement throws across the endfield to throw. Takes the 26 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: first bulls the first basement a little off the bag, 27 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: but the runners nowhere near the bag yet. The runner stops. 28 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: You have a Bayez stops and starts to backtrack. Where 29 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Is step on first base? The 30 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: first basement decides will Craig decides he's going to chase 31 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: the runner back to home plate. Well, the runner on 32 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: second rounds third base and continues to come home, because 33 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: why not yet nothing to lose. Right at the last second, 34 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: Craig decides he's going to toss the ball to the catcher. 35 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: The guy slides in. He's safe. Meanwhile, nobody has shifted 36 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: around the cover first base. This is still this is 37 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: it's still a force out at first base. The runner 38 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: at the runner you see him, he stepped inside of 39 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: the throw. He signals safe at home, notices that there's 40 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: nobody at first base. And decides I'm gonna run the 41 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: first base because if he acquires first base, the run counts. 42 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: So he beats the second baseman to first. They throw 43 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: try to throw the runner at a first base. They 44 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: throw the ball into the outfield, so the hitter is 45 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: like gets a double out of it. He ends up 46 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: on second base. They score a run. When all the 47 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: first baseman had to do with stop step on first base, 48 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: and the innings over, you see something new on base. 49 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: You know, actually thought the runner was safe. He stood 50 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: there and gave the safe sign, a little celebrating yes 51 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: before he realized he could he should scramble back the 52 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: first Yes, because he knew that he was still gonna 53 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 1: gonna cancel that run out. Everybody say how smart he was, 54 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: But hey, you know, uh that that little segment led 55 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: Morning Joe this morning, you know, Mika's stud while Joe 56 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: and all the sports guys are talking about the Pirates. 57 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: The Pirates led the national newscast this morning, not for 58 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: the right reasons, not for the right reasons, which which 59 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: brings us to the Steelers. Jim, I know that. You know, 60 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: the Penguins are now eliminated from the playoffs. The Pirates 61 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: are awful. There's I think they've won six there, six 62 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: and they're six and twenties. They've been dead to me 63 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: for a while. The Steelers are the are the last 64 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: hope helped me will be one Kenobi right, all eyes 65 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: are gonna be on the team. And yet nationally, I 66 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: think when you look at the perception of this team, 67 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: it's that while the Steers are really gonna be bad, 68 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: Matt and I just went over the football siders, the 69 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: teams that are gonna be picking into top ten, they're 70 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: projected top ten picks next year, and the Steelers aren't 71 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: in that. And yet I see a lot of national 72 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: perception that the Steelers gonna be really bad. I just 73 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: don't see it. No, No, I don't either. And you 74 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: know I bank a lot of that on Naji Harris, 75 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: and it's kind of foolish, right, I mean, we've seen 76 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,559 Speaker 1: him run against air. He looks kind of good running 77 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: against air in uh in rookie minicamping in these O 78 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: T A s. And am I wrong? I know we're 79 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: escorted out before the end of practice, but are they 80 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: not scrimmaging at all? No? I think this first week 81 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: was it was all about teaching and and uh, yeah, 82 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: that's kind of different, different, isn't it. Yeah, it is. 83 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: I think you know, when we talked to Cam Heyward 84 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: earlier in the week, I think that's something that the 85 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: players pushed for, like, hey, we're gonna play seventeen games 86 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: this year. Um, we don't need to be out there 87 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: beating each other up. The veterans don't need to be there. 88 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: Use this time to to get the rookies acclimated in 89 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: the and the new guys acclimated, and then I expect 90 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: to start seeing the veterans start to trickle back in, 91 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: if not next week, certainly the week after that was 92 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: a big complaint around the league from the players Association 93 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: is hey, we're not in pads and I'm taking on 94 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: bulrushes and you know, like, so I assume that was 95 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: you know that Tomlin told him, Hey, you don't have 96 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: to worry about that stuff. It's my guess. Okay, Yeah, 97 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: but I agree with you. I think a Jay Harris 98 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: looks outstanding of the Yeah, you just know he's he's 99 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: he's a definitely a missing piece. Now I'm not saying 100 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: he's going to lead them to anything. I don't know, 101 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: but I really like the looks of them with him 102 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: in there, and uh, you know, we know about their 103 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: wide receivers. Um suddenly looks small. I don't know if 104 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: if Zack Gentry has gained a bunch of weight or 105 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: if he still trying to shed from putting on weight 106 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: because of his injury, but he looks massive. And Friar moves, hey, 107 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: you know, and raiders are pretty pretty big, big enough. 108 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: He's a blocking tight end Abron. I don't know if 109 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: I've seen him, it doesn't matter, but uh, Friar moves 110 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: kind of looks small, so I don't know how much 111 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: he's gonna help as particularly as a blocker. But um, 112 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: Kendrick Green, you know, they just do these little drills 113 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: and they hold pads for him, and they practiced their punching, 114 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: and he rocks these guys. It's like they're surprised. I 115 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: don't know if they're surprised anymore, but they seem to 116 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: go backwards a lot of uh surprisingly, they're surprised when 117 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: they stumble backwards after they get rocked by him. And 118 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: the big tackle seems to have quicker feet than I 119 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: thought or I saw on films. And you know, after 120 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: the draft, I went and looked at Dan Moore and 121 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: I thought, oh boy, this guy doesn't look good. This 122 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: is this is their classic tone ill sports round pick. 123 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: But even though even though guys like Duke manny Weather 124 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: and Gil Brandt were raving about him, I I assumed, well, jeez, 125 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: I must miss something. I really don't know anything. Well, 126 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: I'm not like Matt here. I don't know what Matt 127 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: was saying about his college tape. He seemed to have 128 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: a bad first step, but he looks he looks like 129 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: an athlete now to me, more athletic than I imagined 130 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: when I watched some of the film. Yeah, I would 131 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: agree with that assessment. To him, he does look much 132 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: lighter on his feet, and I thought, and his body's 133 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: he's not sloppy, there's no you know, he's got a 134 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: good frame, but work with and you know one thing 135 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: about scouting too. We need to realize these guys aren't 136 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: that old, and there are a lot of them aren't 137 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: developed bodies of work. And this year is so goofy 138 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: that the last time we saw him play actual football 139 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: was a long time ago. Didn't see a combine, didn't 140 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: see all those things. So when we go back and 141 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: watch him, maybe he wasn't where he was now. You know, 142 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: maybe he's just improved over the last six months of 143 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: fair amount too and Steelers no that stuff, mh. One 144 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: of the other things they we were talking about you 145 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: and I was, I said, well, making Rudolph he's letting 146 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: his hair grow a little bit and he kind of 147 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: looked like a taller Tommy Maddox. And then I remembered Maddox, 148 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: you know, didn't have that strong of an arm. And 149 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: I'm watching Mason fling it around and he looks more 150 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: confident with that long hair. Then you reminded me he 151 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: was dating a supermodel or something. He's upgraded his game 152 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: a little bit. He really that's good for the conference. Well, 153 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: and the team gave him money too. I think that 154 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: may have something to do with the two Jim. I mean, 155 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 1: when you get get that new contract and all of 156 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: a sudden, now you're like, okay, I'm I'm gonna be here. 157 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: I think that was a sneaky good signing too. Yeah, 158 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, now he doesn't have to go 159 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: into this going Okay, what's Dwayne Haskins? Am? I looking 160 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: over my shoulder A Dwayne Haskins all the time. He 161 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: kind of knows Josh Dobbs who he knows. But they 162 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: went out and signed a guy who was drafted in 163 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: the first round at your position. But then they gave 164 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: you money, so you know it wasn't you know, it's 165 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: not it's not a minimum deal. They gave him a 166 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: little bit of money to to say, Okay, you you're 167 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: going to be in the mix next year. If if 168 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: Ben walks away, you're at least going to get a 169 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: shot beach here. You're you know, at the worst, he's 170 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: gonna be the two next year. Yeah, so I think 171 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: that I can't imagine him losing the two this year. 172 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: And I'm not going by what I'm seeing. I mean, 173 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: I am seeing a more confident guy. And Haskins seems 174 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: to have a little Hitchens throw, but I mean Haskins 175 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: has has a lot of mental work to do before 176 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: he's even in that conversation. And you know, just just 177 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: going back to Tommy Maddox, I mean, we all watched that, 178 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm sure at least I was. I 179 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: can't speak for you, Dale, but I was caught up 180 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: in give him the job over Cordell in two thousand two, 181 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: up and practice. Yeah, we see Cordell, you know, and 182 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: you've been through that whole that whole thing. You can 183 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: start another swamp on us. We've stuck with you over 184 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: Ken Graham. We've been wrong about you in the past. 185 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: Let's move on, um. But yeah, I mean you see 186 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: later we were wrong about Maddox. But I just see 187 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: Mason being a taller, better Maddox. Actually, I I think 188 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: when he gets his chance, I think he's gonna he's 189 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: gonna surprise all the haters. I really do. I just 190 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: and you know, he's got the supermodel behind him. Is 191 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: he a supermodel? That what she said. I don't know 192 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: if she's a supermodel, but she's somebody famous. Tim tim 193 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: our friend Tim Ben's would know right now. Who I 194 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: don't study who you know, who's dating? Who are those 195 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: kind of things. I've just been told that he's been 196 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: dating somebody famous. Too old to know who's famous anymore, 197 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: but he does. I liked his longer hair. He looks 198 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: like Maddox that longer hair, And I like where he 199 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 1: swings the ball and he's got a swagger, So I'm 200 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: not too concerned. I'm not as concerned, I think as 201 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: the national guys are about the quarterback situation Pittsburgh. No, 202 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 1: I'm not either, and I think that you know I'm not. 203 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm not as concerned about a lot of things with 204 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: the Steelers that seem to be troubling national people. I mean, 205 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: I just think, you know, you touched on it earlier. 206 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: The addition of Naji Harris is something they haven't had 207 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: since two thousand seventeen. They've had to make up for 208 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: that position as opposed to lean on it. They have to. 209 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: I'm sorry I explain that, man. They've had to make 210 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: up for that in position or work around it or 211 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: check out or run plays as opposed to being able 212 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: to lean on it, you know. I mean, I think 213 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: it's night and day difference with him. And you know 214 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: when Levian did go down, what they brought in, Oh 215 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: my goodness, who they bring in to start those playoff games? 216 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 1: Somebody from Jordan Todman and guys that nature. Yeah, yeah, 217 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: j for Jordan Todman and they're all they all know 218 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: the system right now. Oh man, I am That's what 219 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: gonna make this year fun. And I give you the 220 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills game for an example. You know, Buffalo is 221 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: now the Darling, right, They've got the quarterback. Now they're 222 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: going to have to deal with and Cleveland too, for 223 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: that matter, people have to deal with. I've already heard 224 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: wearing the bulls eye. Yeah, I've already heard complaints of 225 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: the Cleveland's media that the team has to play on 226 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 1: Christmas this year. They've never had to play on Christmas before. 227 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: You know, Oh my god, we're got to play on Christmas. 228 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: Like this is what happens. Yeah, get used to playing 229 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: Monday night and then going on the road for a 230 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: Thursday night game or some all the crazy stuff that 231 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: happens when you become a darling. And Buffalo is a 232 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: darling for one, and they they're what a six point 233 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: favorite in that opener? I think the Steelers are great 234 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: under Dag. You know. That's like you've got a team 235 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: coming in with Ben Roethlisberger, who's who's being ridiculed and 236 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: whatever else is being ridiculed the offensive line, Uh, against 237 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: a team that's got a lot of pressure on it, 238 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a six point favorite in their 239 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: own building, you know. And the Bills beat the Steelers 240 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: last year. I just like the Steelers to upset that 241 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: that Bills team, just because the Steelers know all about 242 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: that Bulls. I have had to deal with it for 243 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: a decade with Roethlisberger. Big games, little games, whatever, they're 244 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: all pressure games, and now the Bills are gonna have 245 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: to deal with that. So I kind of see the 246 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: Steelers pulling the upset and then of course losing to 247 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: the Raiders following week that there is something learning how 248 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: to win in this league and putting it together year 249 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: after year. And the Steelers certainly have proven to be 250 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: able to do that just about as as well as anyone. 251 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: And one of the reasons for it is developing their 252 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: own talents. And you know, there's some young guys on 253 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: this team that I'm not a practice. You know, there's 254 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: no preseason last year. Justin Lane comes to mind. I mean, 255 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: I think there's some pivotal young guys, rookies aside that day, 256 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: and I often say, you know, you're allowed to get better, 257 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, what are your thoughts on some 258 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: of those early draft picks lately, the early draft picks 259 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: Lane in particular, You know, like I think Bush could 260 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: go from being a really good player to a star. Um. 261 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: You know, some of the offensive lineman I think their 262 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: best days are in front of them as well. If 263 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: people don't look at it that way, but you're allowed 264 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: to get better, right right, that's that off. I don't 265 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: think the offensive line is nearly as bad as I 266 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: know people like me were screaming offensive line early only 267 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: because I loved a couple of those beasts, the injured 268 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: kid from the Alabama the center and the master from 269 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. I just really like those two as players. 270 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: Didn't mean I was screaming they had to take offensive 271 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: line or early. UM. And I think there could be 272 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: some depth issue to tackle unless this Dan Moore comes on. 273 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: And I like Gil brand calling him the seventh best 274 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: value pick of the entire draft. I respect gil Brandt, 275 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: so I respect his opinion a lot more than mine. 276 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: So maybe that tackle depth isn't so bad. I don't 277 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: know much about Joe Hag, but he's a veteran UM. Yeah. 278 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: Some of the other draft picks, you know, justin Wayne's 279 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: escapade in the offseason, don't make me feel all warm 280 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: and fuzzy. I'm kind of leaning more towards Pierre as 281 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: that young corner outside corner to come in when they 282 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: moved inside. So and if Lane beats him out, great, 283 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: If Lane pulls it together great. But yeah, I would 284 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: look at it guy like Pierre and there was another guy. Uh. 285 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a safety or not, 286 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: but regardless, Yeah, I think they've brought in something that's 287 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: That's going to be the tricky part I think is 288 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: the cornerback is the position they didn't really tend to 289 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: in the draft the seventh round. There's some questions there. 290 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: We're talking a lot about that in camp. Yeah. Yeah, 291 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be interesting you see how that's stuff 292 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: all meshes out. But I certainly think you know, when 293 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: you look at what they'll line up with on paper, um, 294 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: week one, it shouldn't be you know, I just don't 295 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: see a team I've seen some predictions, well there they 296 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: should be a top ten drafting team. Like I'm sorry, 297 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: I don't see it. I don't I don't see how 298 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: a defense that has Cam Hayward step onto it, Tyson 299 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: and Lulu uh bush uh you know, make a Fitzpatrick 300 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: the guys that they have on a defense suddenly falls 301 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: off the cliff and is no longer a top ten defense. 302 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: I just don't see it. There is there is concern 303 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: after losing Dupre, but you know, and and we look 304 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: back at the great duos they've had and what those 305 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: teams have done with those pass rushing book ends and 306 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: the one team that won it all that didn't a 307 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: great book ends was the two thousand five team with 308 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: Porter and Aiggin's And you know, I look at Highsmith 309 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: as hey but with a higher ceiling. So I mean 310 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: he hasn't didn't reach that ceiling yet. It's only going 311 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: to be his second year. But Clark Hagen's won a championship, 312 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: So I mean t J. Watt can be every bit 313 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: of Joey Porter. And so I'm not is down on Highsmith. Well, 314 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: the local guys aren't down on Highsmith. I mean that's 315 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: again a national thing where they don't They lost to 316 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: pre but nobody knows that Highsmith was pretty effective last 317 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: year and we'll get better. And so I think that's 318 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: one of the guys you're asking about two along with 319 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: Trustin Lane and some of the young guys with some 320 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: talent who were drafted high and Highsmith one of them. Now, 321 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,719 Speaker 1: depth again will be an issue, and that's you know, 322 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: we hear that complaint from all the local fans and 323 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: message boards, all that to depth to depth to depth. 324 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: I have a feeling that every team has a depth 325 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: issue here and there, a position they didn't address in 326 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: the draft or couldn't address. Yeah, it's just impossible to 327 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: address them all. It just is Jim, I know Father's 328 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: Days coming up, and uh, of course you wrote the 329 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: book on Troy Paula Malu in the in the off 330 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: season here or it came out in this season. I 331 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: should say, where can people find that book in time 332 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: for Father's Day? Well, let's start with the Steelers stores 333 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 1: at the you know, Hinchfield Grove, Grove City and uh 334 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: Tanger outlets. And I'm gonna be doing a signing. Well, 335 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: there's gonna be more signings, but there's one and for 336 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: sure completely booked in Murraysville a week before Father's Day. 337 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: I'll be there to time for your Father's But if 338 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: you order on Jim Wexel dot com. You can order 339 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: on Amazon, but if you order a Jim Wexel dot 340 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: com you can you know, contact me. There's a contact 341 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: button and say, hey, you know I I just ordered 342 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: the book. Sign it to my dad, give the dad's name, 343 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: whatever info you want me to put into the book, 344 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: and it can make a special Father's Day present. Yeah, 345 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: June twenty, his Father's Day. So we've got a few days. Yeah, 346 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: I get that, get that done. Yeah, I get on that. 347 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: That's good stuff. Plus Jeffrey Bezos has enough money? Is 348 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: that the guy who wants the Amazon? I think Amazon 349 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: is getting Uh, you know, I paid more in taxes 350 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: and he did what the heck and he took he 351 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: took a percentage of my hands on buddy, you know, 352 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: earnings too. So anyway, that's crazy, It's just crazy. But 353 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: we plow on. We're working men, plow on. Yeah, one 354 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: last question about that. I know Troy last week announced 355 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: that he's gonna have Dick lebos Is his presenter. That 356 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: came as no surprise, I think to any of us 357 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: who who knew Troy. There were a couple of other 358 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: people that's names I saw thrown around, but I thought 359 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: all along it was going to be Lebou. Uh. Were 360 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 1: you in the same camp with that? Absolutely? Absolutely, They 361 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: just couldn't have been anyone else. And you know, Dick 362 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: lebow will give a great speech. And I love the 363 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: fantica pit kind toward I just love that they would 364 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: draft mate, you know, drafted in the same class. But 365 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: this one you know, his uncle Kennedy was a father 366 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,479 Speaker 1: figure to him, the man who raised him. Salut has 367 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: passed away, so he wasn't consideration. So I thought maybe Kennedy, 368 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: maybe his brother. Um, but Lebo, it's you know, was 369 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: far and away the favorite, and it's just it's great. 370 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: It was pretty cool the way Troy announced too, if 371 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: you saw it on Twitter. I don't even know if 372 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: I could explain how he did. It was like a cartoon, 373 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: kind of like those uh religious cartoons in the back 374 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: of the religious magazines that you know, I don't know 375 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:32,479 Speaker 1: if you remember, but the cartoon bubbles and things like that. 376 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: It was really cool. It was really well done, and 377 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: Troy did a cool job on it. Of course, as 378 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: soon as I saw that, I put a text into him, Hey, 379 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: you know, it looks like you announced uh Dick Lebo 380 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: as your presenter. Can you comment? Can you call me? 381 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: No answer? Steal Nation is gonna lose their mind when 382 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: Dick Lebo comes out there for Troy. That's gonna be awesome. 383 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a heck of a weekends. It's gonna 384 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: be incredible. So now you've got le Beau and hind 385 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: Board involved. Um, jeez, you know who's still cours are 386 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: are earning. Yeah, So, I mean it's just gonna there's 387 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: gonna be nothing like we've ever seen. And we've seen 388 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: a lot of big time Steeler crowds up there, we 389 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: certainly have, and we've been called some some interesting names 390 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: up there as well. But uh, yeah, I think it's 391 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a fun weekend. I know a lot 392 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: of Steeler fans are gonna show up for that one 393 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: as well. And boy, it's gonna be all weekend too, 394 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: because you got you got Friday, Saturday, Sunday of just 395 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: nothing but but Steelers and Steelers talk and uh, I'm 396 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: sure I'm almost positive they'll save Troy for last. I 397 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: would think so, well, no, he'll he'll go on Saturday. 398 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, So this year's class would be uh maybe 399 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: maybe they'll say Fanica for last. I don't know. Well, 400 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: I'll bet you they say Peyton Man, he'll go last. 401 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: But but they did. They did save Jerome Bettis for 402 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: last the one year because the Steelers run that game 403 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: up there, and it had to listen to all the 404 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: not that I minded. But it does make for a 405 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: very long weekend. But it's gonna be one that Steeler 406 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,959 Speaker 1: faces are gonna be very excited for. Yeah, get your 407 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: get your book now, Paula mallow The inspirational story of 408 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers safety Troy Paula Malu. Again that Jim has 409 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: that out perfect Father's Day gift if you're looking for 410 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: something for dad, if he's a Steelers fan, this is 411 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: when he has to read. We're gonna let you go, Jim, 412 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: appreciate you stopping buy and I'll I'll see you out 413 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: at the O t AS next week as well, So 414 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: we will we will talk about trying out for the 415 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Pirates first base. I think I get at least 416 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: hit with that guy's hitting. Maybe I can step on 417 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: first any time. Alright, it's good talking to you, Jim. 418 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: That was Jim Wexel again, the author of the book 419 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: about Troy Paula Malo. Go out and get that one 420 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: if you haven't had a chance to read that one yet. 421 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: It is outstanding stuff. A lot of stuff in there 422 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: that you know if you're a fan of Troy paul Amalu. Yeah, 423 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: he's a very very private guy, very private guy, and 424 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: and he didn't text me back. It's tough. You know 425 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: I was there Hall of Fame night because I was 426 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: the I was the voter in Pittsburgh that year, and 427 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: and I hadn't talked to Troy since he retired. Before 428 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: he retired the last game of that season, and you know, 429 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: he saw I made sure I asked a question during 430 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: the Q and a period um and so you had 431 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: to raise your hand and they called on you, and 432 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: I kind of stood up and he saw me, and 433 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 1: he smiled and he and then they brought him over 434 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: to me um. At the end, well, they took him 435 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: off to do a radio interview and I'm waiting and 436 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: I talked to Bill kawer Uh in the meantime, and 437 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: Troy's coming. They said, Troy, Troy be coming back out. 438 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: I kept asking, it's Troy coming back out. It's like 439 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: a half hour, forty five minutes after everybody it's starting 440 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: to wrap up. I know you have to sometimes wait 441 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: for Troy. That's the way this goes. And they they 442 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: made sure they brought him over to me um and 443 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: I got half an hour with Troy, just uh, great stuff. 444 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: And then I got him again. I had to write 445 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: the uh, you can you'll be able to get this 446 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: at the Hall of Fame event. But I had to 447 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: write a story on Troy for the for the yearbook 448 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: that they put out for the Hall of Fame yearbook. 449 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: And so the Steelers were kind enough and Troy was 450 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: kind enough to to get on the phone with me 451 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: for another hour. Essentially it was it was a full hour. Um, 452 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: But obviously he has to come out when you get 453 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame. I mean, what about from 454 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: here on out? Do you think it might be the 455 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: end of We're not gonna see you know. What he 456 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: told me was because I asked him, like, you haven't 457 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: been around much, you don't you know, you're not in 458 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: the public eye as much. He said, I didn't want 459 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: to be identified as a football player. I wanted to 460 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: move on with that part of my life and and 461 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: be who I am. Um, you know you'll still see 462 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: him on the head and shoulders commercials and his uncle 463 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: Kennedy that Jim reference talked him into doing that, like 464 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: you might want to do this. This is yeah, this 465 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: this this is some extra money. This is something that 466 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: could continue. Yeah, anybody doesn't care, but he keeps your 467 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: name relevant, you know, the younger generations as who's that 468 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: you know? I mean that type of thing too. Kennedy 469 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: actually was our running back coach when I was at 470 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: the Browns. He was really good dude. Yeah. I talked 471 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: to him about Troy for some of the stuff that 472 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: I wrote on him, but good stuff. It's gonna be 473 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: a great weekend just thinking about it. I mean, day 474 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: after day. Plus there's a game. All the Steeler influences, 475 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: you know, as Jim was mentioning you, now you got Ward, 476 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: and you got Mr Rooney, and you've got Dick la Bow. 477 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: I mean, the guys that aren't even going in are 478 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: going to be, you know, bringing the house down to 479 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,239 Speaker 1: There'll be a lot of black and gold. We might 480 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: even do some shows from up there, I hope to. 481 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm hoping we can just you know, spend the whole 482 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: time up there and be on the air and fans 483 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: can stop buy and say hello, and I'd be awesome. Absolutely, 484 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: But that's going to do it for this segment of 485 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. So for my 486 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: partner Matt Williamson, for Jacob Breck here on site, keeps 487 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: us on the air and got Jim on the phone. 488 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally. We appreciate you for listening to this 489 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio