1 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jagsan today. Kanani Stevens, Brian Sexton, and John 2 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: Oser are with me. We've had an eventful offseason so 3 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: far and that's going to keep continuing this week and 4 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: into the month as well. Pretty excited. We got our 5 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: big things for you today. Youth movement is big thing 6 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: number one, because we got our coordinators introduced last week 7 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: and this is going to be a young team going forward. 8 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: But more than that, they're excited to be here. 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: I say, you have an energetic staff, for sure, so 10 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: maybe that's how I would look at it there. But 11 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: in the sense of youth, I think you feel the energy, 12 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: the excitement, the passion for football, for coaching, and the 13 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: work that goes into making this thing ultimately where we 14 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: want it to be. And I think that carries over, 15 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: or not only into our interactions with each other so far, 16 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: but I think that will show up in our relationships 17 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: with the players and the relationships hopefully with everyone else 18 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 2: in the building. So I think the energy there is palpable. 19 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: That's no offensive coordinator Grant and Vinsky, Brian, you asked 20 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: him that question, and they're excited to be hearing you. 21 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: Steel energy. 22 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:18,919 Speaker 3: It's a lot. 23 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 4: Different you can't miss it. The thing that stood out 24 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 4: to me was for a young guy. Right when he 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 4: walked in the room, It's like, wow, he's young, he's 26 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 4: twenty nine years old, but he checked all the boxes. 27 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: John. 28 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 4: I mean, he had only been here for a few days. 29 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 4: He's just barely immersed in the Jaguars, and yet he 30 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 4: was able to talk about the fundamentals of the game, 31 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 4: right the things that he believes in offensively, about coaching players, 32 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 4: about developing players, about working with the quarterback. Young, Yes, aggressive, Yeah, 33 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 4: it sounds like he is, but more importantly, well schooled 34 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 4: and checks boxes that you hope a much older coach 35 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 4: would be able to check. I think that's the thing 36 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 4: that impressed me the most is he seems incredibly well 37 00:01:58,760 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 4: prepared for the job. 38 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 5: Fight his youth, Brian, I have news for you from 39 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 5: here on out, for us, they're all young, and so 40 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 5: I guess the point is that's fine. It struck me 41 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 5: that Liam cohne Cone really wanted guys that he was 42 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 5: comfortable with, regardless of age. And that's fine because once 43 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 5: you get that staff together, these guys are your staff 44 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 5: need to be working with them. From what you hear 45 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 5: about both Yudinsky and Camp and early players relate to them. 46 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 5: They have good relationships with players. Players like playing for 47 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 5: these guys. Let's go with that. Let's start there as 48 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 5: a base, I think is what the coaches are saying, 49 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 5: and build from there. I think players will believe in this, 50 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 5: and I think that's important after last year. 51 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely think setting the tone early is very important. So 52 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: our second big thing today is gonna be in person interviews. 53 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: They've got the coaching staff in place. Now it's heads 54 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: to the front office. As we're looking at some of 55 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: these GM interviewers and John, you've got the GM. 56 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 3: Tracker on the website going. 57 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: So tell us a little bit about what's gonna happen 58 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: this week. 59 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 5: Well, they had their ten interviews last week virtually. Ethan 60 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 5: Waugh is in the process and is in the final 61 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 5: stage along with five others. They will start the process 62 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 5: of interviewing those on Wednesday. 63 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: I expect it to be wrapped up by Friday. 64 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 5: I think they expect to have a GM in place 65 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 5: late Friday or Saturday ish somewhere around there. Look, Brian, 66 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 5: everybody's I'm gonna lie emails abou Why is the process 67 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 5: taking so long? You're not hiring a GM for February 68 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 5: twenty seventh. You're hiring a GM for the next five 69 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 5: ten years, right, So get it right and then let 70 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 5: everything else take care of itself. I think they like 71 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 5: the process so far. I can't tell you, Brian, that 72 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 5: I know much about each individual candidate, because there's not 73 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 5: much to know about these guys. 74 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: These guys are all young as well. It's gonna be 75 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: a young bunch. 76 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 5: And what I hear they like the candidates so far. 77 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I don't know the candidates other than what 78 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 4: I've read, like a lot of people who are watching this, 79 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 4: what you've read, and what matters is that they get 80 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 4: the right guy. 81 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: The reason that they don't have to push the process 82 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: along is because they've got Tony Bisselli in place. Right. 83 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 4: They've had Ethan Waugh who's kept the scouting process, whether 84 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 4: that's the pro side working the free agent board or 85 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 4: the college side working to get the college board ready 86 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 4: and ready for the combine next week. 87 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: They haven't had to force it. 88 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 4: And of course Tony's here, and all the football operations, 89 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 4: whether it's strength and conditioning or medical training or video 90 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 4: or PR any of that, it's all being maintained. So 91 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 4: that's allowed them to make a good decision, not a hey, 92 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 4: we got to get this done. What's the best decision 93 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 4: for right now? This franchise, in its history, and you 94 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 4: know this, John has always been in a position where 95 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 4: it's made quicker decisions because they needed to get something done. 96 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: This feels right. The pace is there. 97 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 4: Let's make sure that we talked to ten, we whittle 98 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 4: it down to five, and then we get the absolute 99 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 4: person that fits with Liam, that fits with Tony, that 100 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 4: fits with Shad, that fits with the franchise. 101 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: There's no reason to rush it. Even if it went 102 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 3: into next week, this would be okay. 103 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 4: They don't have to worry about this. Everything is being 104 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 4: taken care of. I just love the pace of it. 105 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 4: It's so different than the way that this franchise is 106 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: traditionally operated. 107 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and one final thing before we move on. 108 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 5: I think you know fans that are thinking, well, free 109 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 5: agency is coming up soon. I'm not going to argue 110 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 5: that free agency is coming up soon. And you'd ideally 111 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 5: you would want the GM to have been in place 112 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 5: a while back. They went four and thirteen last year. 113 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 5: This is not an ideal situation. You're trying to get 114 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 5: things right for the long term. If free agency, if 115 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 5: the GM's coming in a little late on that, you 116 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 5: have Liam Cohen, you have Tony Bisselli to operate that, 117 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 5: and you have the information. That is the one thing 118 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 5: you'd rather have. But trumping that, I would rather have 119 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 5: the right GM for the. 120 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: Long term, absolutely, right, guy is the most important thing 121 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: when it comes to that. Our final big thing today 122 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: is going to be off to Indy as we talk 123 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: about getting those things in place in the front office, 124 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: everybody here's going to be heading to Indianapolis for the 125 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: combine next week because the draft is upcoming as well. Brian. 126 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: When we look at something like that, when you're talking 127 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: about the scouting that's already in place, is how much 128 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: different will it be this year with the new coaching 129 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: staff and scouting there. 130 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 4: Well, they're gonna have to lean on scouts that they 131 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 4: may not know quite as well, right, I. 132 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: Mean, that's the thing. 133 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 4: You don't change the scouting staff until after the draft, 134 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 4: so they're gonna have to take a deep breath and 135 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 4: look at the board. I would say, by the time 136 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 4: you get to the combine, John, the board is eighty 137 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 4: percent maybe eighty five percent set based on the scouting 138 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 4: of these guys in their junior year and those that 139 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 4: are seniors into their senior year, they kind of know 140 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 4: where it's at. They're going to the Indie combine to 141 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 4: be able to check some boxes is primarily a medical exercise. 142 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 4: Now it's not as much about the timing. They've got 143 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 4: a lot of that stuff down. So again, you'd love 144 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 4: to have the GM in place at this point, but 145 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 4: they do have a scouting staff that's been doing the work, 146 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 4: and Tony knows those guys and Liam Cohen can lean 147 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 4: on those guys until they get this thing in place. 148 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure. 149 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 5: I think Brian's right, but the board is there in 150 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 5: the sense that the players are on it. I think 151 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 5: what's important to remember, but when the GM's coming in. In 152 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 5: terms of the draft, so far, scouting is largely information gathering. 153 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 5: You want your area of scouts and you want your 154 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 5: next level to have the information in the building. Once 155 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 5: the GM gets in place, once he puts his head 156 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 5: together with the key decision makers, then they can start 157 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 5: taking all this data and sorting it out. It's February 158 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 5: twenty eighth when he gets installed. Say forget the combine, 159 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 5: So much. You still got two and a half months 160 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 5: to set your board, figure out what your draft philosophy is. 161 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 5: I don't think timing on that is a big deal 162 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 5: at all. I think sometimes we overestimate the combine because 163 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 5: we go and it's on TV. It's a piece of 164 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 5: the scouting process. 165 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 3: But you know. 166 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 5: Who's there and newness and it's etc. That's not a 167 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 5: huge issue next week. Next week is going to be 168 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 5: more about these guys getting to know each other and 169 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 5: getting their feet wet with the Jaguars. 170 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 4: And I think if you look at it objectively, the 171 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 4: in person visits. I think a team gets thirty in 172 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 4: person visits here on site, Yeah, on site, those matter 173 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 4: more than the combine does the combine again, medical sum. 174 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:24,559 Speaker 3: Checks here and there. 175 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 4: But when you get the guys that you're really interested 176 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 4: in your building around, your coaches, on your board, talking 177 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 4: to your people, that really is what matters the most. 178 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 4: And the general manager will be here for that. 179 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 180 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: Stay with Sara on JAGSZAM coming up after the break, 181 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from your new coordinators. We'll start out 182 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: with the defense after the break. 183 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 6: My vision for us defensively, you want to be a 184 00:08:55,400 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 6: tough fast, physical, violent at the point of attack. Team. 185 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: What does that mean? 186 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 5: All right? 187 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 6: That means that you've got guys who take pride in 188 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 6: not getting blocked. Everybody talks about running to the ball. 189 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 6: I don't think there's another person in the world who 190 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 6: believes in running to the ball more than I do. 191 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 6: But you can't run to the ball if you don't 192 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 6: get all blocked. And that is something that's gonna be 193 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 6: celebrated in our room. It's gonna be celebrated in the 194 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 6: culture of our team. You know, there's gonna be a 195 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 6: you know, there's a point in every play where somebody 196 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 6: tries to block you. Right, your passion to not stay 197 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 6: blocked is really what makes plays on defense. 198 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 1: Jaguar's a new defensive coordinator, Anthony Campanelli, and we kind 199 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: of got to hear from these guys. You guys were 200 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: here last week and it feels different. Obviously, we're gonna 201 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: learn about these guys that think as things go along, 202 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: and you can't win the press conference, so to say, 203 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: but it is nice to hear where people's I don't 204 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: know if it's allegiances or just what their focus is 205 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: on when you talk about a defense. Obviously, everybody wants 206 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: to be tough and physical, but violent and whatnot. But 207 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: just to the focusing in on specifics for him as 208 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: what I found was great to see. 209 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I thought Ryan Nielsen was a really 210 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 4: good communicator, right, but he in hindsight, he didn't communicate 211 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 4: the kind of information that we got in. 212 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 3: Just the first press conference. Sure, he didn't share much 213 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 3: for that, right. 214 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 4: I mean, so when you hear him talk about violently 215 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 4: shedding blocks, well, I mean, listen, that's the kind of. 216 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 3: Detail that we're looking for. 217 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 4: If you go back to the Packers defense last year 218 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 4: and the game they played here, both Tony and Jeff 219 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 4: were talking in pregame radio about how aggressive and how 220 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 4: difficult this Packers defense was to compete against, and he 221 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 4: basically explained it right there in that sound bite, which listen, 222 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 4: there's some really good players on that side of the ball. 223 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 4: They should not have been the worst defense in football. 224 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 4: You get the sense he can turn it around pretty quickly. 225 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 5: Look, there's only so many any talking points that any 226 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 5: offensive and defensive coordinator can have in the first press conference. Right, 227 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 5: You're going to attack, you're gonna be physical, You're going 228 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 5: to try to play fast, I've never been around a 229 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 5: defensive coordinator who wants to be passive and play slow, 230 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 5: So you're gonna hear the same things. As my point, 231 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 5: what coaching is is the ability to have players buy 232 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 5: into whatever simple concept you're trying to get across to them. 233 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 5: I like the fact that Campanelli talks a lot about 234 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 5: being violent at that point of attack and shedding blocks. 235 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 5: He's telling guys, this is what we're going to be about. 236 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 5: You better play this way or you're not gonna fit 237 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 5: in with what we're doing. Beyond any of that, everything 238 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 5: you hear about this guy is players love playing for him. 239 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 5: That tells me whatever that message is that we've all 240 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 5: heard before, I don't care if we've heard it before, 241 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 5: can you get it to the players and can they 242 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 5: buy in? Everything you hear is that this guy can 243 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 5: do that. Beyond that, I don't care what he said. 244 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 3: I mean, he cares. 245 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 5: All of what he said doesn't matter. This is a 246 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 5: guy who can get players believing in him. 247 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 3: This defense needs that well and everywhere he's been I 248 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 3: mean I mentioned it last week. He's a legend. 249 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 4: He and his brothers in the Catholic League in New 250 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 4: Jersey and everyone you talk to talks about him from 251 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 4: that point through college to the Dolphins to the Packers. 252 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 4: So he's had an impact at every level of football 253 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 4: and everywhere he's been people speak highly of him. 254 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: That matters. 255 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 5: You are a legend in the Kansas Catholic League, which 256 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:37,239 Speaker 5: is a different level. 257 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 4: Actually Missouri, but yeah, at a very different level. Thank you, 258 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 4: legend for a different reason. 259 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: Kimpanelli had a couple interesting points I felt throughout his presser. 260 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about forcing turnovers. That was 261 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: a huge issue for this team last year, but then 262 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: two years ago we saw the beginning of the season 263 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: they were close to leading the league in turnovers. So 264 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: to have that same roster and have that issue, he 265 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: talked a little bit about what the focus needs to 266 00:12:58,280 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: be with turnovers. 267 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 6: I also think that the guys that have great ball 268 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 6: awareness and the guys that strain that as a team, 269 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 6: you know, the units that really strain that. It's you 270 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 6: go back and look at it. How many attempts are 271 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 6: you making on the ball, whether that's punching the ball right, 272 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 6: whether that's violent contact on the ball, how I'm clamping 273 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 6: on a tackle. All those things can factor in to takeaways. 274 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 6: And to me, you have to do a really really 275 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 6: good job studying that and presenting that information visually to 276 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 6: the players. Get as many great visuals for them. Knowing 277 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 6: how people carry the ball, right. Is a guy late 278 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 6: to the tuck after he catches the ball. Does he 279 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 6: carry the ball on his inside arm near sideline? Is 280 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 6: the guy switches the ball in traffic? Is the ball 281 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 6: off his body? Is he an elbow outrunner? Those are 282 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 6: the guys that you want to target, and you want 283 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 6: to target them in specific ways. So that to me, 284 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 6: there is a little bit of a I don't want 285 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 6: to say a science to that, but certainly a technique 286 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 6: and a coaching philosophy to that. 287 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: I'm going to get into the weeds a little bit there, 288 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 1: but what I like to hear is talking about us 289 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: teaching them the specific ways to go about the Obviously 290 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: former regime Ryan Nielson wasn't as descriptive to us, so 291 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: maybe he was saying those messages to the players and 292 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: just not to us. That's fair, but to also hear 293 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: this coming forward and just being aware that they're going 294 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: to be focusing in on, you know, doing your job, 295 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: so to speak. But it's not necessarily simplified version, it's 296 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: it's doing what needs to be done. 297 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, the turnover thing's key. I mean it's they had 298 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 5: twenty seven and twenty two and twenty seven and twenty three. 299 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 5: They forced they had nine last year, which you almost 300 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 5: have to try to have that few. And so I 301 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 5: liked what he said about this is a defense that's 302 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 5: going to face the quarterback more. Really to me, the 303 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 5: key with turnovers as far as forcing them on defense, 304 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 5: if you're playing disruptive up front, and if you're in 305 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 5: a situation where you have the other team in situations 306 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 5: it doesn't want to be in generally speaking, you're going 307 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 5: to get more turnovers than if you're not playing well 308 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 5: on early downs and not getting them that situation. So 309 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 5: if everything else that he's teaching, if they're disruptive and 310 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 5: the offense isn't liking what it's feeling, then turnovers will happen. 311 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 5: If you're not playing well, they're gonna have nine again. 312 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 4: You know, we talked about Liam and Grant on the 313 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 4: offensive side, and really the measuring stick being the quarterback. 314 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 4: I couldn't help listening to him and especially talking about turnovers, 315 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 4: thinking that Mason Smith and Jordan Jefferson are those two 316 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 4: players for him on defense getting push in the middle 317 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 4: of the defensive line, which will let your outside rushers, 318 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 4: you know, your josh Heinz Allen and tray Von get 319 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 4: after the quarterback, which will create more turnovers. Those two guys, 320 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 4: and if they added defensive tackling the draft, it's a 321 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 4: good draft for defensive tackles, especially at the top. Getting 322 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 4: that push and this guy's shedding blocks and creating havoc 323 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 4: in the middle of the defense, which we saw from 324 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 4: Green Bay last year. That'll create the turnovers. I mean again, 325 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 4: I don't want to say that it's a quick turnaround, 326 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 4: although to go for twenty seven to nine happened pretty quickly, 327 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 4: so maybe the reverse can be true as well. But 328 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 4: Mason Smith, Jordan Jefferson, and whoever else is in that 329 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 4: defensive tackle group seems to be the lynch pin, the 330 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 4: leverage point for this defense creating more turnovers. 331 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: It's not going to be a complete rebuild with the situation. Obviously, 332 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: you're not coming in from the ground floor. There is 333 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: stuff here that he's going to be working with. He 334 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: said as much when he talked about it, and Campanelli 335 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: was in Green Bay last year after spending a lot 336 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: of time in Miami, and he talked about going to 337 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: a new team and kind of working through that process. 338 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 6: That kind of happened in Green Bay last year. To 339 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 6: be honest with it, for me, I was in Miami 340 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 6: for a bunch of years and went there and as 341 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 6: Jeff and I were kind of riving it down to 342 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 6: the studs and our defensive staff was building it from 343 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 6: the ground up. You always evaluate what's in the building, 344 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 6: you know what I mean, what do the guys do 345 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 6: well and how does that fit into our scheme? And 346 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 6: I think great coaches always have the ability to be 347 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 6: malleable with the scheme to fit what the players do best. 348 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 6: So yeah, that's part of it. And then as you 349 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 6: go for sure, like as your roster changes, you know, 350 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 6: sometimes it affords you the opportunity to do a little 351 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 6: bit more so or less. 352 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: John, we heard from the head coach a lot of 353 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: players not plays right. And when you talk about when 354 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: he's talking about building his scheme here, he wants to 355 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: utilize what he has at his availability, but also being 356 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: flexible right when you play certain teams, maybe adjuster style. 357 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: It's not being rigid and saying we're going to do 358 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: this no matter what. And having that adaptability, I think 359 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 1: it would be really big for this defense to not 360 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: just be doing one thing no matter what if that 361 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: doesn't call for. 362 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 3: That, yeah, I mean. 363 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 5: And talking to him a couple of weeks ago, I 364 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 5: asked him about the scheme and any kind of laugh 365 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 5: and I started laughing. To me, he said, look, I 366 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 5: understand what you're asking. I understand fans win a new scheme. 367 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 5: The reality is they play some four to three, they 368 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 5: play some three four. Within that, everything's hybrid. To me, 369 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 5: how do you use Trayvon? How do you use Eric Armstead? 370 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 5: Can you move those guys inside a little bit? It 371 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 5: sounds like Armstell, We're back inside. Yes, it's players, not plays. 372 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 5: How you use those guys matters very much. I think 373 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 5: the thing I'm optimistic about is with run defense, which 374 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 5: I think is the key. You have to get the 375 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 5: run stop first. He's really good at that. He was 376 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 5: the run game coordinator. If you can get that stopped, 377 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 5: then you can get out of that thirty two range 378 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 5: they were in. If you get out of thirty two, 379 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 5: then you're marginally better. And this team lost a bunch 380 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 5: of games by seven points or less. So getting a 381 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 5: little better at something the coach maybe can have a 382 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 5: huge influence on I'm optimistic about that small detail of that, Brian. 383 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 4: So just theoretically where the Checkers are drafting, there could 384 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 4: be a defensive tackle right, the kid from Michigan, Mason Graham. 385 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 4: I don't think it's likely anymore because I think a duel. 386 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 4: Carter's performance in the College Playoff lifted him way above five. 387 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 3: But those are two players. 388 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 4: You think, well, we just drafted a couple of pass 389 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 4: rusher if we just drafted a couple of defensive tackles, 390 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 4: I'll be really interested to see just how multiple right, 391 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 4: because that's a coaching word, multiple, they will be if 392 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 4: one of those two guys is there for them, because 393 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 4: you can never have enough great defensive front guys, and 394 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 4: they're going to change things up. Last year we saw 395 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 4: Trayvon with his hand on the ground and another really 396 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 4: good season from him. They're willing, it sounds like, to 397 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 4: take a player and it doesn't matter whether they've got 398 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 4: three defensive tackles. If this guy's really good and he's 399 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 4: a three technique, or you can put him, you know, 400 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 4: in an inside gap, sup take him. They are calling 401 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 4: to put a scheme together players over plays, it doesn't matter. Well, 402 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 4: we already have a defensive tackle. Well, who doesn't need 403 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 4: a great defensive tackle? 404 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely can always have more. 405 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's the same thing with them to do 406 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 4: a Carter right. I mean, you have two great pass 407 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 4: russes on the outside. 408 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 3: Who doesn't need a third? 409 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 4: Old story about the Patriots and the Giants in that 410 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 4: Super Bowl back in two thousand and eight. 411 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 5: So yeah, there's no position on this roster out really 412 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 5: outside along snow and punter where you can't improve a 413 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 5: position group with a Pro Bowl player like Brian Thomas 414 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 5: junior Trevan Walker. 415 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 3: I love those guys. If you add one. 416 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 5: More player to their group that are really good, you 417 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 5: can find a spot form on the field. So it's 418 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 5: wide open on the draft on that front. 419 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 420 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: All right, we talk defense, We're going to switch the 421 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: offensive side of football coming up after the break. Here 422 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: in jags Am, Move the Freight, Move the Freight. Magellan 423 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: Transport voted the coolest office space in Jacksonvilla. Play online 424 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: at www dot Magellan Logistics dot com. Going back into 425 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: jags am as, we got to hear from the coordinators 426 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: for the first time. Last week we talked about defensive 427 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: side of Football's talk about the offensive side of football, 428 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: because that has been the focus for much of this offseason. 429 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: You got your offensive head coach, and now you've got 430 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: a pretty young guy, Grant Edinsky, twenty nine years old, 431 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: taken over as your offensive coordinator for the first time. 432 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: So he talked a little bit about what is going 433 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: to be the main project, which is not project, but 434 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: the main point of his job is going to be 435 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: working with Trevor Lawrence. 436 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 2: The physical talent you can see and you guys probably 437 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 2: have had more time watching it than even me over 438 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: the course of the past couple of years. The most 439 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 2: exciting thing for me is the guy and the person 440 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 2: as I've started to form this relationship, because, like I said, 441 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 2: the quarterback position is still played by a person. It's 442 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 2: still human being back there who's got to stand back 443 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 2: there and navigate tight pockets and hits and escape and 444 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 2: deal with eleven, you know, ten other guys in the 445 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: all eleven on defense and make those decisions and snap judgment. 446 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 2: So the person that we're getting to deal with and 447 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 2: work with on a day to day basis is super 448 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 2: exciting for me because listen, if we're up here spending 449 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 2: as much time as we do trying to pour ourselves 450 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: into somebody, He's the type of guy that you want 451 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: to invest time in. 452 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: John. We've talked before about when this job came open, 453 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: there was a lot of football people that want and 454 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: work with Trevor Lawrence like they see him as you know, 455 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: the talent that we've seen from him and what he's 456 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: possibly capable of getting to with the right scheme around him, 457 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: the right people around him. And it feels like he 458 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: now has the right people around him that want to 459 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: work with him like that. 460 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 3: Yep, it does. 461 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 5: And I think the team that was around him before 462 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 5: had his best interest and developed him in spots. It's 463 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 5: tough because again we've heard frankly too many intro pressers 464 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 5: around here, right, so we have experience listening you're looking 465 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 5: for something real to hang on to, and fans right 466 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 5: me all the time, Well they're saying the same things 467 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 5: over and over again. Well, yes, they say. 468 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 3: The same things over and over again. 469 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 5: I think with Yudinsky, what was impressive is not so 470 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 5: much what he said, but his track record in Minnesota. 471 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 5: When you read about him, his relationship with around blink. 472 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy was very close. 473 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 5: It's the sort of thing that a quarterback can develop 474 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 5: trust and lean on. He's going to be all in 475 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 5: with Trevor all of those things. Brian. I don't know 476 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 5: how it plays out because we haven't seen it, but 477 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 5: it does sound like this guy has the football knowledge, 478 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 5: the diligence, the passion to be Trevor's guy and to 479 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 5: bring him along in terms of always being there, always 480 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 5: not advocate, but always being a source of information. Does 481 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 5: he have the ability to translate it into a way 482 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 5: that Trevor easily understands and can take onto the field. 483 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 5: I think that's what we'll find out. 484 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 3: A couple thoughts. 485 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 4: You know, for all the analytics that and numbers that 486 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 4: play into professional football, it's about relationships, Yeah, I mean, 487 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:36,719 Speaker 4: it's about people. 488 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 3: And it sounds as if Grant has the. 489 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 4: Ability to form great relationships with people for a young guy. 490 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 4: That's important. You love that with a young quarterback that 491 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 4: you have here. Also the experience that he has. You know, 492 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 4: last year, Sam Darnold, a high pick, top five pick 493 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 4: by the Jets, discarded that you know, went to the Panthers, 494 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 4: went to the Niners. Had bounced around, was in his 495 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 4: fourth spot in six years, and they got the best 496 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 4: out of him right in a desperate situation because remember, 497 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 4: you know, their quarterback, the guy that they drafted all 498 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 4: of a sudden can't play and they don't know that 499 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 4: they can count on Sam Darnold. So he was part 500 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 4: of Kevin O'Connell and that crew on the offensive side, 501 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 4: getting the most out of a guy who had potential 502 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,479 Speaker 4: but who hadn't to that point shown it. Well, I mean, 503 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 4: he's perfect to come here and to work with Trevor Lawrence. 504 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 4: At least, it seems like he's perfect. I'll go back 505 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 4: to what I said at the beginning. He forms good relationships. 506 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 4: That's the thing I've been told about him. That's the 507 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 4: thing that he has shown people. If that's the case, 508 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 4: I think he's off to a good start already. 509 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 510 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 5: And frankly, we're talking about somebody who's twenty nine and 511 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 5: has been in the league four or five years, So 512 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 5: there's not much for us to analyze based on what 513 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 5: has happened already. All we have is what we've heard 514 00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 5: about it and why he has been brought in. Everything 515 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 5: I have seen and heard from him I like very much. 516 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 5: I can see how Trevor could relate to this, So 517 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 5: I think it'll be a positive. Now he's got to 518 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 5: go prove that, yes, can't. 519 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: Be the up and coming guy without you know, being 520 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: the up and coming guy. 521 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 3: First. 522 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: We also heard him talk a little bit. You know, 523 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: he's talking about working with all the players on the team, 524 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: but obviously Brian Thomas Junior had a breakout rookie season 525 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: and just what he's looking forward to with working with. 526 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 2: Him, Like like we talked about with the players and 527 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: the opportunity to work with these guys. He's one of 528 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 2: the guys where you watch the tape and you're it's 529 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 2: hard to stay seated watching his tape just in terms 530 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 2: of the excitement and the tools and the ability that 531 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 2: he has and the potential there for you saw the 532 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: results this year, but the potential for growth beyond this year, 533 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 2: and the different ways you can use him to attack 534 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 2: defenses in a multitude of ways. 535 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: I mean, if your eyes don't light up when you 536 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: think about Brian Thomas Junior, is probably something wrong with you. 537 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: But I'm excited for maybe the creativity that they can use. 538 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: When you talk about, you know, getting some of these 539 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: younger offensive lines it's just how they utilize the talent 540 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: that they have. Obviously, Brian Thomas Junior is a huge 541 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 1: talent and going into a second year, what they can. 542 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 3: Be able to do with him. 543 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 4: Listen, the thing that stands out the most about Thomas 544 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 4: is is that he makes defensive coordinators restless. They don't 545 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 4: sleep very well the night before the game because you know, 546 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 4: he is an explosive playmaker. We had many of those 547 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 4: around here, and to have a guy like that, if 548 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 4: you come into the offensive coordinator, that has to give 549 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 4: you incredible confidence. 550 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, and all Jaguars fans, the most Jaguars fans are 551 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 5: familiar with Brian Thomas Junior. Well, you know, Liam Cohen 552 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 5: and Yudinsky, they had their own stuff to do last year, right, 553 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 5: So they get here and they've probably seen some highlights 554 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 5: of BTJ. But I can sort of imagine Yudinsky sitting 555 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 5: there and like going through the highlight reel and at 556 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 5: times just kind of going. 557 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 3: That's pretty cool. Yeah, oh all right, we can do that. 558 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 5: So for me a football standpoint, what BTJ brings this 559 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 5: team that it hasn't had very much in his friends history. 560 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 5: Defenses can game plan all they want and once the game. 561 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 5: He can still do something that you can't game plan for. 562 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 5: That's what wins games in the NFL. Now it's become 563 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 5: a league of above the x's and oh's playmakers. He 564 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 5: can do that, and I'm sure this coaching staff sort 565 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 5: of watches him and every every now and then it's like, hey, cool. 566 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 3: All right, let's go go do your thing, which is fine. 567 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 5: I mean that's not really football one oh one stuff, 568 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 5: but that's the kind of stuff that's gonna win you 569 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 5: two or three games a year. Build around that, and 570 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 5: I can't be more excited to watch Brian Thomas Junior 571 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 5: in the future. 572 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 4: Listen, you, when you show up and you've got a 573 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 4: promising young quarterback with a Lamborghini at his disposal in 574 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 4: Brian Thomas Junior, I mean, put him in the car 575 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 4: and let him go. There's a lot of things that 576 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 4: you can do. And there's other pieces on the offense 577 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 4: as well, and of course they'll add to that. But 578 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 4: the quarterback and receiver combination, I mean, you saw all 579 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 4: those years in the ending with with Peyton and Marvin 580 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 4: and Reggie. 581 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 3: When you've got that, everything else is possible. 582 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: When Leam Colin came in, he said he's going to 583 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: be the one calling the plays. Does that matter at 584 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: all with the first time coordinator. Does it help him 585 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: because he can focus on some other things or do 586 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: you think it'll just be collaborative altogether? 587 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 5: Oh? I think it certainly seems like you know, Cohen 588 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 5: will have the final say play call. He's the real coordinator, right, 589 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 5: so it certainly gives Grant Yudinsky a chance to grow 590 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 5: within that everything you hear. I don't think it's any 591 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 5: question this guy is on the fast track. He's going 592 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 5: to be a head coach someday. So does it matter. 593 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 5: Sure it matters because it matters who calls plays, But 594 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 5: I don't think it necessarily diminishes Edinsky's value to it. 595 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 5: It will mean his roles different in some coordinators on 596 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 5: game day. 597 00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 3: And I'd be interested to see how this one. 598 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 4: Obviously we've all, you know, kind of watched it around 599 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 4: here the last couple of years. 600 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 3: But you've got a first time head. 601 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 4: Coach who is accustomed to calling plays, but he's also 602 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,959 Speaker 4: the head coach. Right There's the defense, there's special teams, 603 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 4: there's a lot of elements. So I'm gonna be interested 604 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 4: to see just how much he delegates to Yudinsky as 605 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 4: he goes through the process. It's to be determined because 606 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 4: we don't have anything to base it on. 607 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: Maybe a find one to watch though, and hopefully goes 608 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: very very well. 609 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 3: Stay with us here. 610 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: We will tell you a little bit about what's coming 611 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: up next week at the combine. Jeg XAM brought to 612 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: you by Fresh from Florida. It is always in season. 613 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 7: The cons the organization made it very clear they wanted 614 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 7: me here and that was a big part of where 615 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 7: we are going forward. And so I had that going 616 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 7: I did get some interest, but ultimately we wanted to 617 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 7: be here. The organization wanted us here, and so it 618 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 7: was it was a clear cut deal for my family 619 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 7: and I. This was the best situation. Blend in with 620 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 7: this new crowd of staff and and and make the 621 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 7: best of it here and let's get let's. 622 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 2: Let's do this. 623 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: See that's a familiar face. He'd far a well special 624 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: teams coordinator. He's going to be staying here. And I mean, 625 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: you got a couple of pro bowlers on. I think 626 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: that's fair. Yeah, and drafted one of the best kickers, 627 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: h absolutely, so he'll be sticking around, which is great. 628 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 4: You know Rick Oscelin, who was a longtime writer for 629 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 4: the Dallas Morning News, used to it was a labor 630 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 4: of love for him. He compiled and created his own 631 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 4: rating for special teams. I'm not sure anybody does it 632 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 4: now that he's retired, But I was talking to some 633 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 4: guys in Dallas and they were talking about it, and 634 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 4: they were kind of putting their own system together, and 635 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 4: they thought that the Jaguars special teams would be top 636 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 4: five based on their performances, whether you're talking about the kicker, 637 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 4: the punter, the return against I mean, can you remember 638 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 4: an appreciable punt return against this team? 639 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 3: There wasn't. 640 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 4: You can look at PFF and some of these different 641 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 4: rating sources, but the bottom line is is that people 642 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 4: who know special teams around the league look at the 643 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 4: job that he farwell did and think he's one of 644 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 4: the better coaches in the league. 645 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, there are some coaches, it's rare in this league 646 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:20,479 Speaker 5: now that sort of transcend staff and wind up staying 647 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 5: with a franchise for a long time. He's farwell on 648 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 5: special teams around here. Seems like that guy now, I 649 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 5: think he might be a coach someday. Like he's that 650 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 5: kind of guy who can reach, he can lead special 651 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 5: teams coaches Harbaugh and you know what came out of 652 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 5: that area. So he may have a brighter future beyond 653 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 5: just being a special teams guy. But he also might 654 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 5: be a guy who's in one place for a long time. 655 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 5: I know the Jaguars love him, and as they should. 656 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 3: There's a lot to love about him. He really is. 657 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 4: He can explain it. He's very involved in it. Was 658 00:31:55,640 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 4: very involved in the kickoff transition last year. Is that 659 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 4: process again this year? Just well respected arountally. 660 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely so. Things are moving quickly now, felt like the 661 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: back end of the season is very slow. Now. We 662 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: got a lot of things coming at once. The gim 663 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: interviews this week combine next week. John, would you say 664 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: twenty something years you've been going, So what are we 665 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: looking forward to next week? 666 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? 667 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 5: My first one was oh one, and I guess we 668 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 5: missed one during COVID, which is sort of a blur. Yeah, 669 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 5: Liam Cohen and I believe the new general manager, if 670 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 5: he's in place, may speak. I don't know on the 671 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 5: last part. And it's a good chance to talk to 672 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 5: Liam Cohen about the new coordinators, the direction. We haven't 673 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 5: really talked to him in about two or three weeks. 674 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 5: Sometimes the Combine can feel a bit stale because you've 675 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 5: already talked to the head coach. 676 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 3: There's that much change. 677 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 5: This year for me, the highlight will be talking to 678 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 5: Liam about everything that's going on right now and the direction, 679 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 5: because it's moving fast. 680 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 4: And if it feels fast now, hold on, it's going 681 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 4: to feel a whole lot faster because you get back 682 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 4: from the Combine and you're just a week or two 683 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 4: away from the start of the new league year, which 684 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 4: is free agency, and then it is just downhill all 685 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 4: the way to the draft. 686 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 3: Absolutely right. 687 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 5: Until last year was downhill. 688 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 3: I just mad in terms of the speed, just right, 689 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:19,959 Speaker 3: all good stuff. 690 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: JP and John will be with you guys next week 691 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: for Jagsam from the Combine. All our shows will be 692 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: from the Combine in Indianapolis, So enjoy that coverage from 693 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: next week and we'll be back here in studio the 694 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: week after that.