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Speaker 2: We will see you to welcome plan hang out, Hi, everybody.

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Speaker 2: We're two games into the World Series.

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Speaker 1: This is crazy.

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Speaker 2: World Series goes from Houston to Atlanta and Truest Park

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Speaker 2: for games three through five. Let's stay five, right, Jack

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Speaker 2: mcwell and Peter Apple arm Layton. We're going all three

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Speaker 2: of us three times this week. We just did so

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Speaker 2: is the World Series preview. We're gonna come at you

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Speaker 2: tomorrow recapping the first two games of the World Series

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Speaker 2: in previewing what's to come down the home stretch between

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Speaker 2: the Braves and the Astros. But first, we've got this

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Speaker 2: special World Series Mailbag edition where we took your questions

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Speaker 2: on Twitter and Instagram and we're just gonna answer a

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Speaker 2: ton and a lot of them were Worlds Center, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly a lot of these questions World Series centered.

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Speaker 1: There's some offseason stuff, there's some work stoppage stuff that

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Speaker 1: we got to talk about. I guess we could just

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Speaker 1: kick it off, or we could just slightly mention that

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Speaker 1: the Braves are up six to two. The Braves one

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Speaker 1: six two in game one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're recording before Game two, so let's let's go around.

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Speaker 2: We'll go clockwise, so it'll be me, r Den Peter,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to make a totally baseless hot take

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Speaker 2: out of Game two before Game two starts. All right,

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Speaker 2: so you already I'm gonna go first. I loved that

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Speaker 2: the Braves came out and just absolutely hammered Jose Erkeidy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, couldn't get out of the first inning. Christian

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Speaker 2: Javier did not look like the Christian Xavier in the

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Speaker 2: Alcs and Braves are taking two games back to Atlanta

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Speaker 2: to try and close this thing out.

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Speaker 3: Well, that you took mine, and that's I know, that's

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Speaker 3: why you wanted to go first, because I almost said

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Speaker 3: Arkidie sucks on the last episode and stop myself, as

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Speaker 3: if that was some terrible thing to say. But honestly,

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Speaker 3: I was surprised at how well Javier did in relief

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Speaker 3: and mop up duty, and he should have started the game.

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Speaker 3: That's the proof Javier should have started. It should have

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Speaker 3: been him going four to start the game and then

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Speaker 3: going to the bullpen which was rested because you got

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Speaker 3: blown out in game one. You could have won four

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Speaker 3: innings there and then two innings with Graveman and two

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Speaker 3: innings with Presley and then you have the day off.

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Speaker 3: But mismanagement, you started Rokidi and you were losing again

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Speaker 1: Did you guys see in game two how every single

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Speaker 1: went way over eight and a half runs. That was

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Speaker 3: Vegas paid about triple.

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Speaker 1: The game ended twenty to nineteen in favor of the Braves,

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Speaker 1: and now the Braves are going up to zero back

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Speaker 1: to Atlanta twenty to nineteen, highest scoring game in playoff history.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Eddie Rosario had an eight hit night. He

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Speaker 2: hit for this cycle twice. Eddie Rosario hit for two cycles. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: Pete.

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Speaker 2: You are going to pose the questions because you do

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Speaker 2: a great job of a posting on Twitter and Instagram

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Speaker 1: Usually I like to grab as many Yankee questions as possible. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: So let's start it off with a bang question number one.

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Speaker 1: With Charlie Morton being out for the rest of the postseason,

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Speaker 3: Ah, you know it is. It is really tough because

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Speaker 3: I still love that bullpen. You know that the Braves

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Speaker 2: I think advantage Braves, But they need to have a

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Speaker 2: clear that the Astros have something that the Braves do not,

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Speaker 2: and that's Christian Javier, a guy that can go four

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Speaker 2: Here's what I'll say, two names. Wascarinoah needs to be

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Speaker 2: Davidson is the lefty that just replaced Charlie Morton on

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Speaker 1: The only thing I had add is the fact that

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Speaker 1: Rizzy turned in a really good start in Game one.

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Speaker 1: Drew Smiley has proved throughout, at least against the Dodgers

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be hard for Oscary know to eat it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kyle Wright is on the roster. Sorry about that.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Wright Vanderbilt.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's about it.

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Speaker 1: He was a top prospect. Is he You like him?

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Speaker 3: At best No, that's why I was raising my hand.

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Speaker 3: I was like you, Noah's not there, But yeah, if

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Speaker 3: he was there, he would really need to come up

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Speaker 3: eat innings. I mean, it's gonna be all hands on

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Speaker 3: Mintor's burned until you know, you go back home and yeah,

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Speaker 2: And Morton was the inning eater out of the three

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Speaker 2: we saw it against the Dodgers, right, Morton, he walked

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Speaker 1: He gave them like a very good start.

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Speaker 2: Postseason Wildblinder, we have to adjust the definition of quality

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Speaker 3: We should give Mentor a quality start for what he

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Speaker 1: So this next question is great because it's the hypothetical

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Speaker 2: Charlie Morton just pulled to Greg Jennings in Game one.

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Speaker 2: He was running the broken fucking leg crazy against the

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Speaker 1: The league, jose L Twove, who He's still throw ninety

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would rather my ace not have a broken leg.

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Speaker 3: But a win in the.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's big.

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Speaker 2: I don't feel great going back to Atlanta getting a

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Speaker 2: set for Game four. But if Max Freed comes away

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Speaker 2: If it's tied one one, I think I would rather

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Speaker 2: If somebody has to be the sacrificial lamb, I bet

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Speaker 2: Charlie Morton would sacrifice himself. He would just come out

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Speaker 3: I'll do it.

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Speaker 1: Oh what do you think?

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Speaker 3: So you know, this was such a hard thing to

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Speaker 2: Little DJ to two eight. It is entirely coincidental. And

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Speaker 1: Like there is.

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Speaker 2: These umpires are cross checked every move they make. These

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Speaker 2: That was not the case in the eighties and the

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Speaker 3: Well, I think I agree with you. I think the

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Speaker 1: No, I agree.

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Speaker 1: I'm on the way out. The thing is with umpiring

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Speaker 3: I have a serious problem with that, Peter, and it's

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Speaker 1: It makes too much sense. Like, what are we doing

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Speaker 2: Peter Baseball in nineteen eighty four by George Orwell are

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Speaker 2: the same thing you. It is illegal to be smart.

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Speaker 2: You are not allowed to think sensibly. Umpires should be

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Speaker 3: It's not.

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Speaker 1: It's it's age based. It's yeah, what is that.

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Speaker 2: It's it's the college professor getting tenured and as soon

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Speaker 2: Like you have so much job security MLB. Umpires have

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Speaker 1: I think, any other position in the world, in the world,

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Speaker 3: Umpiring in the postseason should be a privilege and it

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Speaker 2: And typically we do see it earned, especially with the

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Speaker 1: Going to be an asshole. Jack. You couldn't have worded

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Speaker 1: Are you guys worried? Jack? What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Let me kind of lay the foundation before we get

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Speaker 2: money quicker. The owners they probably want a salary cap

438
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Speaker 2: because they don't want to spend much money. The players

439
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 2: don't want a salary cap. They want to spending floor.

440
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 2: The owners don't want to spending floor. There's a lot

441
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 2: of disagreements that all has to do with money, and

442
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 2: the overwhelming majority has to do with how quickly players

443
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 2: can make more money.

444
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Speaker 1: Arham as a Marlins fan, a team who doesn't like

445
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: to spend, what are your thoughts on the salary floor,

446
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Speaker 1: the salary ceiling, all this kind of stuff, What are

447
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Speaker 1: your thoughts you.

448
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Speaker 3: Know, in theory, I thought the salary floor was an

449
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 3: exciting idea. I thought, Ron Cox, you know who's going

450
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Speaker 3: to be our CBA guy throughout the entire offseason for

451
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Speaker 3: Just Baseball dot Com wrote a really good piece about

452
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Speaker 3: how it was somewhat of a farce because of the

453
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Speaker 3: way that it would have to be attained and what

454
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Speaker 3: would be given up by players for that to happen,

455
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Speaker 3: and and a lot goes into it. I would love

456
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Speaker 3: the idea of a salary for but what is that

457
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 3: coming at expensive? And what does that look like? I

458
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 3: think that that was almost this little faux offer from

459
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 3: the owners, like, hey, this is something we'll we'll talk about,

460
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 3: to almost distract from the larger points. And I think

461
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 3: that they're just so far apart in so many different areas.

462
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,199
Speaker 3: And I know Jack talks about the the you know,

463
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 3: service time manipulation. I don't even know if that's gonna

464
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 3: end up being one of the main issues, because you

465
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 3: know what, all of the guys that are that are

466
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 3: making these decisions in the MLVPA, they don't care about

467
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 3: that anymore, just like they don't care about minor league housing,

468
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 3: just like they don't care about minor league pay. They're

469
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Speaker 3: focused on themselves and that's that's what it is. Maybe

470
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Speaker 3: a few players care, but at the end of the day,

471
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 3: the reason why minor leaguers have been mistreated for so

472
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 3: long is because nobody They don't have a seat at

473
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Speaker 3: the table, they don't have anybody representing them, and these

474
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 3: players are more focused on on what what's going on

475
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 3: and how it pertains to them. So I'm very interested

476
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Speaker 3: to see what some of the more contentious topics are

477
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 3: and why they're so far apart and what the huge

478
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 3: issue is. But I feel like a lot of the

479
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 3: salary minimum stuff came with a lot of catches, and again,

480
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 3: Ron does a really good job, and I think we

481
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 3: might have to bring him on to talk about it

482
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 3: at some point because he can really lay it out

483
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 3: eloquently about why it will end up just also limiting

484
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Speaker 3: a lot of the ways that free agents can earn

485
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Speaker 3: because they're going to bring down the luxury tax as well,

486
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 3: and it just creates this almost fixed market that I

487
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 3: think baseball is good because of the free market, but

488
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 3: at the same time, it creates a little bit of

489
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 3: a lack of parody. But look where we are with

490
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Speaker 3: the Braves, so it's a really tough push and pull

491
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 3: and being at the Marlins have never spent money. Obviously,

492
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 3: I want to jump on that, but at what expense

493
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Speaker 3: for the game as a whole.

494
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Speaker 2: Not just look at where we are with the Braves.

495
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Speaker 2: Look at where we are with the Astros. I mean

496
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 2: we talked about it last episode. They let spring or walk,

497
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: like there is not a lot of high annual value

498
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 2: guys on this Astros team, Like they let all the

499
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 2: big guys walk, and they still get here all the time.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if the parody is the problem, like.

501
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: You're saying, are them, But I mean there has to

502
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 2: be something that figures out and some side's got to concede.

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Speaker 1: I don't know which side. What do you think, Pete?

504
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: I feel like you guys all kind of summed it up.

505
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Speaker 1: I just feel like people might be worried if we

506
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Speaker 1: will even have a season next year. And I'm here

507
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 1: to say I think it's like ninety nine percent. We

508
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: will have a season. I think the only thing that

509
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: this might get in the way of is spring training

510
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: when guys report free agency all that kind of stuff.

511
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Speaker 1: So we might not see because free agents are eligible

512
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Speaker 1: to be signed six days after the World Series, we

513
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 1: might not see that until February. I know that agents

514
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: were already getting ready for a big scramble come the

515
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Speaker 1: last two weeks of March. Could that happen?

516
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Speaker 2: We're gonna have a crazy offseason. Yeah, but remember we

517
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 2: already saw that. I think exactly, you've seen the trend

518
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Speaker 2: of free agents signing later.

519
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Speaker 1: We've seen it. But I don't think that agents are

520
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: getting ready for that. No, no, no, no. That's the thing.

521
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Speaker 1: When I'm hearing that agents are preparing for some colossal

522
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Speaker 1: things to happen and for their guys to be ready

523
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Speaker 1: come March, makes me think, oh no, I'm a little

524
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: bit worried, But I'm not that worried in terms of

525
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Speaker 1: a season actually taking place.

526
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Speaker 2: Okay, betting line here, I'm gonna set the over under

527
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: a game's played in the twenty twenty two MLB season

528
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: at one forty two and a half over or under.

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Speaker 2: I'm taking the over and I think they play all

530
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Speaker 2: one sixty two. I would be very surprised if they

531
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Speaker 2: don't play one sixty two.

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Speaker 1: No pandemic. Maybe I'd not feel that same way, But

533
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: everyone needs money. People have to come together that. I

534
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: know they probably don't care about the public perception of

535
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 1: all this, but they should because it's going to continue

536
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: to keep getting worse and worse, and fans are going

537
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: to want to leave the game because they're like all

538
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: these guys that just care about money.

539
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Speaker 3: Well, and here's a big thing about it too, is

540
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: what was the biggest contention when we were looking at

541
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Speaker 3: the abbreviated season and what that was going to look

542
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 3: like monetarily, It was who was going to pay for

543
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 3: the loss of revenue? And they're both saying, no, you're

544
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 3: going to pay for it. No, you're going to pay

545
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 3: for it. In this case, if there is no agreement

546
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 3: and they lose games, they're both paying for it. And

547
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 3: I think that's going to be the one thing that

548
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 3: unites the millionaires and the billionaires is the money. Is

549
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 3: we all pay because they don't want to both lose money.

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Speaker 2: Oh, don't worry about the concession workers though, don't worry

551
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: about the grounds crew or the.

552
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Speaker 1: Minor leagues or anything. Don't worry about worry about which

553
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: guy gets fifteen versus twenty million. All right, let's move on.

554
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: That was a good one. Back to pitching, with bullpens

555
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: being a huge focus this playoffs. How did the Nationals

556
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,959
Speaker 1: manage to win the World Series in twenty nineteen with

557
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: no bullpen? And why can't other teams replicate that? So

558
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: last by Kazim Hall on Twitter. Let me just give

559
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: you a rundown because Cassim brings up a great point.

560
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: Let me give you a rundown of who threw out

561
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Speaker 1: of the bullpen for the Nats in twenty nineteen. Let's

562
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: start with the rotation, because Steven Strasburg logged thirty six

563
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: and a third innings across six games, so that means

564
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: he was coming out and throwing six innings. Max Schurzer

565
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: was a guaranteed five. He threw thirty innings flat over

566
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Speaker 1: six appearances, one out of the bullpen, five starting games.

567
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: Patrick Corbin threw twenty three and a third innings Annibal

568
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: Sanchez through eighteen. Aside from that, it was Sean Doolittle

569
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Speaker 1: obviously closer. He's going to pitch a lot Daniel Hudson

570
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: finished off the World Series in Game seven. Joe Raws

571
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: just made a spot start in the World Series. After that,

572
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: Tanner Rainey through six and two thirds, Fernando Rodney four

573
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: and two thirds, and then nobody else was north of

574
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: three innings. They did it without having that constant bullpen ace.

575
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: They had Doolittle to close games out. They could turn

576
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: to Daniel Hudson in the seventh or eighth when they

577
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: needed to, but for the most part, it was four

578
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: guys that they rode. Two of them world class.

579
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: Patrick Corbyn was approaching world class, he got paid like

580
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Speaker 2: he was world class, and then all of a sudden

581
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: he became the worst pitcher in baseball this year. And

582
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,239
Speaker 2: then they somehow got good innings from Annibal Sanchez and

583
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Speaker 2: aging Innabal Sanchez.

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Speaker 1: So that's how they got there.

585
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Speaker 3: They were the antithesis of what is this year's postseason. Yep,

586
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: that's exactly what you know, what Jack said is they

587
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 3: had starters that actually went deep into games and then

588
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 3: didn't have to worry about the bullpen too much. And yeah,

589
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 3: they also hit.

590
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Speaker 1: And they they hit and then they.

591
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: Came up big. But yeah, I mean, that's what happened

592
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 3: when your starters go more than three innings.

593
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Speaker 1: And that was kind of the magic of the Nationals

594
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: that year, the fact that they were a wild card

595
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: team and won it all the way because in the

596
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: regular season, do you guys know that they had the

597
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: second worst bullpen alrighty that year five six'. Eight that's crazy.

598
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: Bad but then in the playoffs everyone got. Hot and

599
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: in the, playoffs like you, Said Daniel, Hudson Sean, Doolittle Tanner,

600
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Speaker 1: rainey all these guys got. Hot were they a bad? Bullpen?

601
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: Absolutely but in the playoffs were they a bad? Bullpen?

602
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: No and that's the point that in the playoffs they

603
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: were locked down.

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Speaker 3: And their responsibility was, limited which they gave him a

605
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 3: chance to be. Better when the response, is you, know

606
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 3: imagine if they're being. Asked if that bullpen was being

607
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 3: asked to do what these bullpens are getting asked to,

608
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 3: do they would have got knocked out of the. Yard

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00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: also worth noting, that LIKE i, said they hit. Well

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Speaker 3: and you, know Even Anthony, rendone who is you, know

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Speaker 3: never a top three third basement in baseball Per jack,

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Speaker 3: McMullen one thousand ops in that. POSTSEASON i, mean he was,

613
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Speaker 3: spectacular you, know almost top. Three if you.

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Speaker 2: Will eat, shit.

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00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: All, right that's a good that's a good way to.

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Speaker 1: Ed BUT i think the summary of all this is

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Speaker 1: not that The, nationals even though they had a bad

618
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: bullpen during the regular, season that doesn't necessarily mean that

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Speaker 1: you can have a bad bullpen and win The World.

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Speaker 1: SERIES i feel like there was a little bit of

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Speaker 1: an extra magic behind Those nationals and those bullpen arms

622
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Speaker 1: did perform in the.

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Speaker 2: Playoffs, yeah and it just kind of piggybacking on arms,

624
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Speaker 2: point even though he was just an asshole to, Me

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Speaker 2: you were an, Asshole Anthony, Red, NO i. WAS i

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Speaker 2: wasn't ASS i still will be an asshole To Anthony.

627
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Speaker 2: Ren don't until he proves. Otherwise get well, Soon get well, Soon. Anthony,

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Speaker 2: listen the twenty nineteen bullpen dynamic in the postseason and

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty win bullpen dynamic in the postseason could

630
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Speaker 2: not be more. Different just Like arm was, SAYING i

631
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Speaker 2: know everybody has talked about this In july Or august

632
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Speaker 2: when pitchers and hitters for that, matter just started dropping like.

633
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Speaker 2: Flies but it's worth bringing up, again like this twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty one, season playing a full one sixty two and

635
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Speaker 2: an entire postseason on the heels of sixty games like that's.

636
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: Hard so these these starting pitchers are just absolutely. Drained

637
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: so you're asking bullpens to do more and. More so

638
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: instead of one guy going six each time he comes,

639
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: out he might not have it in his system anymore

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Speaker 2: after the longest year of their life playing.

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Speaker 1: BASEBALL i think that's fair With so next question number,

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Speaker 1: six this is a good, one and this is. One

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Speaker 1: this is one From, hovey who is a writer on our.

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Speaker 1: Site what's the single most Rewatchable World series or playoff?

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Speaker 1: Game CAN i start? It yes ten years, ago, today,

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Speaker 1: today or? YESTERDAY i guess yesterday my favorite call of

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Speaker 1: all time and we will see you tomorrow. Night Cardinals

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00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: rangers twenty. Eleven that game still sits with me AS

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00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: i watched it. Live that call it it almost made

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00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: me cry WHEN i saw, it and it makes me

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Speaker 1: just tear up. NOW i just remember everything about that.

652
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Speaker 3: Game you, go jad or, no, no, no, no all You

653
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 3: i've got? Three oh my, god yea go let's see

654
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: if let's see if we overlap recent.

655
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: MEMORY i, mean this is my baseball viewing experience AND

656
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 2: i actually can rank them three.

657
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 3: Two.

658
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 2: One my third most rewatchable game is twenty Seventeen game.

659
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: Five that was when The astros won what was, it

660
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 2: thirteen twelve in ten innings.

661
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 3: Over the home. Run every, pitch it, was.

662
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: Every pitch That that's one of my, favorites just because

663
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 2: it was a stupid marathon and they ran out of,

664
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: breaks they ran out of commercial, breaks so they just

665
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: kept it there between the top of the tenth and

666
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: the bottom of the, tenth which was just. Awesome number

667
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 2: two was the mad Bum show In game seven At Kaufman.

668
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: Stadium that was twenty.

669
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 2: FOURTEEN i Mean Madison bumgarner rolling out of the bullpen

670
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: and just ripping off five was.

671
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: Legend. Shit, yeah and THEN.

672
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 3: I got to take your number. One i'll take your,

673
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 3: numbers all, right go, ahead because this IS i mean,

674
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 3: this you, know the Way peter describes the chills and.

675
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 3: Stuff you, know this was something, that for a lot of,

676
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 3: reasons was a really special world series to. Me was

677
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 3: was The Cubs Cleveland Indians World. Series, yeah for a

678
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 3: couple of. Reasons it was the last world series ever

679
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 3: watched with my dad before he passed, Away and of

680
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 3: course the historical context to IT i would never forget.

681
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: It but the fact THAT i can think back on

682
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 3: that and remember watching it with my. Dad he was

683
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 3: visiting me as a freshman In. Syracuse we were watching

684
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 3: it in a hotel AND i was, Like we're just,

685
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 3: like what is going? On you, know just this level

686
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 3: of When Raj davis hit that home run off Of,

687
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: chapman which at that, point That's, chapman that Unhittable, chapman

688
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 3: And Raje davis was never that kind of, guy and

689
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 3: he definitely wasn't that kind of guy at that point

690
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: in his. Career he chokes up like five inches on the,

691
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 3: Bat he's holding it like at the at the barrel

692
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 3: and just pokes it out of. There, hey that was

693
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 3: one of those situations WHERE i would have bet my

694
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 3: life on that not. Happening and that's what makes it so.

695
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 3: Special and then you, add you, know the personal component to.

696
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 3: It that. GAME i, honestly when this when baseball season's,

697
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 3: Over i'm gonna go rewatch that game again because don't

698
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 3: literally define what this answer. IS i could watch that game.

699
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: Endlessly jack AND i watch that game In Dell Plain

700
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: hall At Syracuse, university just screaming my dad's calling, me

701
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: his dad's calling. Him it was it, was it was.

702
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: Nuts it was a great.

703
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: GAME i was JUST i was ripping off facetimes to

704
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: my friends from home left and right THAT i, mean

705
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 2: we're die Hard cubs. FANS i respect The, CUBS i

706
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: respect the work that they. DO i would consider myself

707
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 2: a very Pedestrian cubs. Fan BUT i MEAN i WAS

708
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 2: i was calling my, friends, who LIKE i knew would

709
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: be crying at that, point and like they answered the

710
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: phones like.

711
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 3: Crying you.

712
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: Know it was just, like this is.

713
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: Awesome this is such a unique environment and a unique

714
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: chance to take baseball, then, right and that this is

715
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: the only. Sport i'll stand by this till the DAY i.

716
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: Die and this is WHY i love this sport so.

717
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: Much that is the only sport that can invoke that

718
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: type of.

719
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 3: Emotion oh, yeah forty million people tun it into. THAT i,

720
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 3: mean that's. Insane that's.

721
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: Insane not quite the Super, bowl but like very, close.

722
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 3: Pretty ton, close and the Super bowl is you know

723
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 3: a world of.

724
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: That all?

725
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: Right next question number, seven what do The braves do

726
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: with the outfield after this? Season quite, FRANKLY i have

727
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 1: no idea they have Ronaldccuna Junior Adam, Duval Jock, Peterson Jorge,

728
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: Solaire Eddie, Rosario heredia and then they do Have ozuna

729
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: with his issues if he ever ever comes. Back and

730
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: this was asked By nathan dot gamer dot thirteen On.

731
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: Instagram they have about seven or eight outfielders to choose.

732
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: From it seems like a good problem to. Have And

733
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: i'm sure that we could, say, oh you just keep

734
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: the three. Best you, know you Keep Ronald, dcunya you

735
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: KEEP i guess That Eddie rosario out of all of,

736
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: Them Jock, Peterson Duval. Claire they're all doing. Well is

737
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: the question which three would you? Keep or do you

738
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: just keep rolling? With we're gonna slot in five and

739
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: we're gonna plug and play.

740
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 3: Outfielders, well you, know some of it will kind of

741
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: take care of, itself and they're they're all gonna be free. Agents.

742
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 3: Essentially duval has a mutual, option If i'm not, mistaken

743
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 3: WHICH i would assume after eating the league In homers

744
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: will probably. Decline the mutual option should be for seven million.

745
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 3: DOLLARS i believe Ye peterson will be the only. Guy

746
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 3: peterson also has a mutual option a ten at, ten

747
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 3: which maybe he picks, up BUT i think after what

748
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 3: he showed in this offseason or in this, postseason he'll

749
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 3: probably decline. It and you, know one thing that's important

750
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 3: To Jock peterson is an everyday. Role BUT i will,

751
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 3: SAY i, mean he just wrote that thing in the

752
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 3: player's tribute about you, know To, atlanta and you can

753
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: tell that he really enjoys it. There the fan base

754
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 3: is really held on to. HIM i could See jock

755
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 3: being one of the main guys that ends up. Staying

756
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 3: duval obviously has the ties there haven't been there, before

757
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: BUT i just don't know if he's as much of

758
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: a necessity for. THEM i Think jock has really shown

759
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 3: that he can be a great fit for this team out,

760
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 3: there BUT i would personally Let rosario. WALK i think

761
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 3: you're paying a premium for a postseason that you know right.

762
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 3: Now If i'm going to get super nerdy about his,

763
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: swing he has a lot of moving parts and right

764
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 3: now they're all timed up. Perfectly H i can promise

765
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 3: you he could have a good year next. Year he's

766
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: obviously not nearly gonna pu up the numbers he is right,

767
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 3: Now you're gonna pay for what he's doing right, now

768
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 3: AND i just don't think that's worth it for. THEM

769
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: i would Keep peterson AND i would Keep duval if

770
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 3: the price is, right and and you, Know ozuna can

771
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 3: can kick. Rocks, YEAH i Think i'm with you. THERE

772
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 3: i do like the idea of Retaining Jack. Peterson ten

773
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 3: million bucks is a lot of.

774
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: Money ozuna he should never play another game and In

775
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 2: Major League, baseball let alone with The. BRAVES i don't

776
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: Think Alex santopolos wants to hold on To Marcelo zuna one.

777
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 3: Bit they're quite fine without, him, RIGHT.

778
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: I think at this, POINT i think at this, POINT

779
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: i don't even know if his name should be in

780
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: discussions when you're even talking about the. OFFSEASON i would

781
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: just pretend he's not.

782
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: There he also sucked before he got you, know before

783
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 3: he got arrested and stuff or, whatever like he wasn't.

784
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 3: Good he was having a terrible year up to that.

785
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: Point so really GOOD covid.

786
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 3: Year, yeah, yeah he had a GOOD covid, year and

787
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 3: you got you're gonna get that kind of production at

788
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 3: this point with better, DEFENSE i, mean it was gonna

789
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 3: can't even. Throw you'd get that kind of production From

790
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 3: Adam duvall, Anyways but, yeah, yeah go, Ahead.

791
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 2: Jack, NO i, agree somebody's gonna overpay For Eddie. Rossario

792
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: you don't have to be the team that does. It

793
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 2: so if they hold on To jack duval Is solaer

794
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 2: unrestricted after this, year, yes, yeah let him. Walk let him.

795
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: Walk heredia is still under your.

796
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: Control you have a couple offield.

797
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: Control, yeah he can be the fourth Outfielder akunya, obviously

798
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: and keep in, mind ARM i know you don't like,

799
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: him But christian pache is still. Here great trade, piece

800
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: great trade, piece, okay but let him be that fourth

801
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: or fifth outfielder off the jump and uh trade him

802
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: for AN mlb ready outfielder and another. PROSPECT i think

803
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 2: he can get you, that you, know if you if

804
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: you were to go get Not billy, McKinney but If

805
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 2: billy McKinney, type like that type of producer that you

806
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: can stick in all three outfield, spots that would be,

807
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 2: cheap and then you can go get another you, know

808
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: ten to twenty prospect in whatever system for.

809
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 3: Pace do it.

810
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 2: Right SO i think that's the best plan of attack.

811
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: There and the crazy thing with the outfield situation is

812
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: you know you hear all the. TIME i mean imagine

813
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: where The braves would be if they also had A

814
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: kunya in this, series, Right but if they had A

815
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: kunya in this, series they wouldn't have made all these

816
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: deals for these, outfielders and they wouldn't even. It who

817
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: knows if they'd be here with A.

818
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 3: Kunya, yeah so crazy to, say you don't.

819
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: Know it's like a weird problem to, have because do you, Say,

820
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: okay we'll go back to the old equation where we

821
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: Have ronald O'cunya, junior and then we'll figure out two other.

822
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: Outfielders what IF i told you four outfielders made this

823
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: third best player in baseball.

824
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: OBSOLETE i was sitting with my roommate two and he was,

825
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: LIKE i Think Eddie, rosario it. Was it was all

826
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: down the. Line they all had a hit or like

827
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 1: a home run or. Something it was, like he asked,

828
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: me do you Think Ronald Couonye junior could have five

829
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: home runs In game one already or something like. That

830
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: it was just like that type of production that you

831
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 1: got from all those outfielders is probably why you're here. Now,

832
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: YEAH i mean, tough, yeah but think about how good

833
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: a baseball player he. Is it took four guys to replace.

834
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 3: One it. Was it was The giants. Approach, really you,

835
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: know you get to mix the, match LIKE i, say

836
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 3: AND i love. THAT i think it worked out really.

837
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 3: Well and an underrated part of it too that kind

838
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: of came out from all this was That Ozzie albi's

839
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 3: gets moved up to the leadoff spot and he flourished.

840
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 3: There so you also got a big bump In albi's

841
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 3: which you, know we're not trying to paint the injury

842
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 3: to A kunya is a good. Thing, yeah not at.

843
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: All you, know that's a top player in. Baseball but

844
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 3: there were some net positives THAT i think some things

845
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 3: that The braves found out about themselves that they wouldn't

846
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 3: have found out without the, Injury like one that they

847
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 3: could go get a couple pieces that would actually fit

848
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 3: like perfect puzzle pieces for, them and two That Ozzie

849
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 3: albi's would flourish more in the leadoff. Spot so it's

850
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 3: those little things that actually help take them to the next.

851
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 3: Level now they know those things that they know they

852
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 3: can proceed as they, wish and you, know maybe we'll

853
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 3: see Al the's more in the leadoff spot And acuna

854
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 3: goes more to the two. Hole who knows how that'll,

855
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 3: go BUT i think that there was an opportunity to

856
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 3: kind of see who could step, up and The braves

857
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 3: found out some things about some of their guys that

858
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 3: maybe they wouldn't have found out.

859
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: Otherwise and, REGARDLESS i think all of us are in

860
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: the same boat that come next, year come twenty twenty,

861
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: two The braves are a team to be reckon. With

862
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: they're probably really.

863
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 3: GOOD i don't expect them to be quiet. Either we haven't.

864
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: Even mentioned they're Getting Mike soroka. Back And Mike soroka

865
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: is a real pitcher in this. LEAGUE i mean you

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Speaker 1: add him then quaskaryanoa no bench punching this, Year max

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Speaker 1: Freed Ian, anderson that's. Real, Soroka Charlie, morton that's.

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Speaker 3: Real And i'm sure they'll go do.

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Speaker 1: Something they will probably go do something Because alexanthopolis is a.

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Speaker 3: Genius, Right it's pretty darn.

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Speaker 1: Good and this is the last, question and it's a

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Speaker 1: good one to end on which stadium would you most

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00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: rather watch a game seven? At that's By aiden Dot

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00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: penner On. Instagram jack start with you would you rather

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00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: a truest or minute made? Truest because it's. Outside it is. Outside,

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00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: unfortunately we're only going to Get game seven if it

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00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: happens in At Minute made because that's just how the

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00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: two three two system. Works Minute made. Is, uh it's

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00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: the juice.

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00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: Box it's also a great place to watch a baseball.

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00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: Game i've.

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00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 2: HEARD i haven't been, yet but it's near the top

883
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: of my list because i've.

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00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: Heard the experience there is just. Awesome.

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00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: Uh and you've got all these little niche things About Minute, made.

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00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 2: RIGHT i wish they still Had Tells hill in center,

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00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 2: field but they don't. Know i'm Pro Tells, hill are

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00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 2: you anew your?

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00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 3: Pro just random obstruction in the middle of the, Field,

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00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 3: like that's. Ridiculous, oh in this, field we're just gonna

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00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 3: put a giant, hill.

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00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: Just a little bit like backyard.

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00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 3: Baseball, yeah imagine you have a football field and you

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00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 3: just put like a middle, there, like oh, yeah just

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Speaker 3: deal with.

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00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: It, well they were very close to doing that In

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00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 2: oakland for a long, time.

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00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: Close to doing that In.

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00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 3: Oakland i've been to both uh and truest is actually

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00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 3: so cool for a lot of. Reasons you, Know Mini

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00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 3: maid was. AWESOME i thought it was a cool. Environment

902
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 3: it was a very unique. Stadium the train is. Cool

903
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 3: the way it feels is pretty. COOL i really Enjoyed

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00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 3: truest because it's in the, suburbs WHICH i know a

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00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 3: lot of people didn't love about putting it, there but

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00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 3: what it allowed them to do is that the whole

907
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 3: area around it is like Baseball. Ville they have bars

908
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 3: that are just brand new and so cool to watch the.

909
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,919
Speaker 3: Game they have this huge just concourse where you could

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00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 3: get there five hours before the game and you've got

911
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 3: plenty to. Do there's baseball team stores down the whole.

912
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 3: Street it's just this, utopian just so, new, clean, fun baseball,

913
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: oriented almost theme park that is around the, stadium and

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00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 3: then the stadium itself is brand new and. NICE i

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00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 3: had a blast At truest and it's it's one of

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00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 3: my favorites at this point because of how new it.

917
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 3: Is AND i would love to see A game seven

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00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 3: there because the environment before and the outside aspect of

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00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 3: it it is so.

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00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: Cool what ABOUT i unfortunately haven't been, either BUT i

921
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: could just base it off of WHAT i would love

922
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: to see if it was an ideal situation for me.

923
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 3: Personally, oh he wants to See astros fans miserable at?

924
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: Home oh, no, no, NO i just want to see

925
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: The braves win it In. Atlanta it's not that complicated

926
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: of a. Take The astros are in The World. Series

927
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: they the twenty, seventeen twenty, nineteen they're back at it.

928
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: Again they've been AT lcs every single. Year The braves

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00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: haven't made The World series in such a long. Time

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00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: if they were to win it through The ronalcooney junior

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00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: junior injury In, atlanta that's that's my. CALL i, mean

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00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 1: how can you have any other?

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00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 3: Choice BUT i vilified you a little bit. There that

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Speaker 3: wasn't very nice in. ME i thought you'd Have, NO

935
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 3: i wasn't very nice of. ME i vilified. YOU i

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Speaker 3: thought you'd have some vindictive take LIKE i want to

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00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 3: see The astros tears at home in minute made while they.

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Speaker 1: Lose See i'm. Less i'm less on Anti astros because me,

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00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: PERSONALLY i just don't feel the need to like them

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00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: as as an unbiased journalist or. Whatever we are. Here,

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00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: uh you, know we like to we like, to you,

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00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: know talk about the, players AND i do like a

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00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: lot of their individual, players but in terms of just a,

944
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: team what they did to my, TEAM i just don't

945
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: really like, them AND i think it's. Fine But i'm

946
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: not going to take that out on Winning World series

947
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: on the fans because the fans don't necessarily deserve. That

948
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: the fans have done nothing.

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00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 3: Wrong AND i Want brandley to get a, RING i really.

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00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: DO i Love. MICHAEL i Want dusty to get a. Ring.

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00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: YEAH a couple of quick things before we. Go number,

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00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: one if you liked the discussion about what The braves

953
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: should do with their outfield this postseason or this, OFFSEASON

954
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 2: i think you're gonna love our off season. Content we've

955
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: got some fun stuff planned much like that with a

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00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 2: lot of.

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00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: Teams so we're gonna go through all of these. Teams

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00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: we're gonna be doing top. Tens the off season may

959
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: be even better than the regular season in terms of

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00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: the content because we've got to.

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Speaker 3: Rank a lot of. Guys every free agent's going to The,

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00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 3: yankees every single.

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00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: One they already. Went you hear The yankee Signed Seeger

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00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: korea and, Story yeah that.

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00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 2: Happened that happened in the fifth inning when it was

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00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 2: already fifteen to.

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00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: Fourteen, yes, yes, okay well The outlanders takes are going

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00:49:59,040 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: on right.

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00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 2: Now and then one more, thing and Then Peter i'll

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00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 2: let you do the outro and sign us. Off nineteen ninety,

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00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: SEVEN Nlds braves swept The. Astros Greg maddox And John

972
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: smoltz both threw complete games In games one and. Three

973
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 2: Tom glavin threw six innings In game. Two those were

974
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: starters doing damage in a sweep Over. Houston that's FROM mlb.

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Speaker 3: Vault then what happened? There that, said then what happened

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00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 3: in ninety? Seven do you?

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00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: KNOW i think The marlins did?

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00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 3: Something The. Marlins The marlins won The World. SERIES i

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Speaker 3: remember it as clear as.

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00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: Day, yeah you were going To.

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00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 3: July they won it a couple months.

982
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: Later about before before we hop. Off i've been seeing

983
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: some hate Against joe buck And John smoltz in the.

984
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: Booth they're probably been loving what they've been. Doing smoltz

985
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: is hot and. Cold really it depends when you Catch.

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00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: Smolts Sometimes smoltz is just doesn't want to be, there

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Speaker 1: and you can.

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Speaker 3: TELL i. LOVE i Think bucket is so. Unjustified smolty's,

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Speaker 3: great obviously incredible, mind a guy that was a closer

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Speaker 3: and a starter like he has so much. Insight just

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Speaker 3: every once in a while he just sounds like a

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Speaker 3: little get off my. Lawnie BUT i it, doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't it affects me. ENOUGH i enjoy him. Too, YEAH

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Speaker 1: His analysis on pitching is so. Inspecting the way he

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Speaker 1: even hitting.

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Speaker 2: Out kyle, right not was? Scary, noah you got got?

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Speaker 2: Them anything from you.

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Speaker 3: Braves in six still.

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